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[CALL TO ORDER ]
PARKER CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. IT IS AUGUST 4, 2026 AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK MS. HULL. DO I HAVE A QUORUM? YES, MA'AM.[WORKSHOP]
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO TO OUR WORKSHOP ON COMMUNICATION STRATEGIES, I BELIEVE. KENT, YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? YES, MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. SO, WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS AND SOME OF THE RESEARCH WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS OR SO TO BETTER ENGAGE WITH OUR RESIDENTS. SO, A COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED.THIS IS THE COMPOSITION. THE GOAL OF THE COMMITTEE WAS TO SEEK OUT THE MOST ECONOMICAL, SUSTAINABLE, AND LOW IMPACT METHODS TO BETTER ENGAGE WITH OUR RESIDENTS AS AN ORGANIZATION.
AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN LACKING IN. SO THE COMMITTEE'S WORK, IT ENTAILED FROM THE VERY START A HOLISTIC LOOK AT OUR CURRENT APPROACHES. WE DISCUSSED PRACTICAL, EFFICIENT METHODS BOTH FOR COST AND FOR STAFF TIME, ENGAGING WITH OUR RESIDENTS USING VARIOUS MEDIA PLATFORMS AND MESSAGING APPROACHES. THIS INCLUDED DISCUSSION ON NEWSLETTERS, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST PHYSICAL VERSIONS, DIGITAL VERSIONS, MONTHLY AND QUARTERLY MAYOR, CITY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS, SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE OUTSIDE OF JUST THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, PRINT MEDIA AND OUR WEBSITE AND ITS EFFECTIVENESS. SO WE MET SIX TIMES OVER THE LAST FIVE MONTHS AND WE ALSO VETTED THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS TO HELP US WITH OUR TECHNOLOGY NEEDS.
THAT WAS SAVVY CITIZEN, TEXTMYGOV AND CIVIC PLUS. WE SPENT SOME TIME EVALUATING DETERMINE OUR CURRENT NEEDS IN RELATION TO BEST INDUSTRY PRACTICES.
AND WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THE CITIES AROUND US WERE DOING, HOW THEY WERE APPROACHING IT, WHAT THEIR STAFFING NEEDS LOOKED LIKE. AS FAR AS THE TECHNOLOGY SIDE, WE LOOKED AT THE APPROACHES SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THOSE VENDORS THAT I JUST DISCUSSED. SO WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING, WE ARE RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD WITH CIVIC MAS NOTIFICATION. IT WOULD BE A REPLACEMENT AND AN ADDITION TO OUR EVERBRIDGE TECHNOLOGY, DESIGNATING A WILLING AND CAPABLE CITY EMPLOYEE TO BE OUR LEAD COMMUNICATIONS COORDINATOR AND POSSIBLY SUPPLEMENTING THAT WITH EXTERNAL THIRD PARTY SUPPORT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND THEN THROUGH THE CREATION OF OFFICIAL FACEBOOK PAGE ALONG WITH SOME POSTING GUIDELINES TO BE USED AS A MESSAGING AMPLIFIER OF OUR CIVIC PLUS CONTENT. SO WHY DOES THIS MATTER? LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS YOUR GOVERNMENT. RESIDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND EASILY WHAT THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAFF ARE DOING.
AND TRANSPARENCY IS A CORE VALUE OF EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE. AND WE WANT TO EXPAND THOSE COMMUNICATION TOOLS BEYOND JUST THE WEBSITE AND THESE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ALONE. SO, SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF CIVIC PLUS AND WE DO HAVE AUSTIN WITH THE ORGANIZATION. HE'S GOING TO BE SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THIS. BUT THIS PLATFORM INTRODUCES GEOFENCING AND FOR THOSE OF YOU UNFAMILIAR WITH WHAT THAT IS. SO THIS WILL BE TARGETED MESSAGING TO SPECIFIC AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF PARKER. SO THAT IS IF WE NEED TO GET A MESSAGE OUT JUST TO SAY MOSS RIDGE FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE KNOLLS, WE COULD PREDETERMINE THOSE AREAS AND THEN SEND OUT A MESSAGE DIRECTLY TO THOSE RESIDENTS. THAT IS, HEY, WE'VE GOT A WATER LEAK IN THIS AREA. WE KNOW PRESSURES ARE DOWN OVER THERE. THIS IS OUR ESTIMATED TIME FOR REPAIR. WHAT WE KNOW IS IT'S JUST AFFECTING YOUR AREA.
UNLIMITED SMS COMMUNICATION, EMERGENCY ALERTS, ROUTINE NOTIFICATIONS, I.E. LEWIS LANE IS GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR THE NEXT WEEK. PLEASE SEEK ALTERNATE ROUTES, TEXT, VOICE CALLS, EMAILS. IT ALSO HAS THIS POLLING FEATURE THAT I'M HOPEFUL AUSTIN WILL JUST TOUCH ON BRIEFLY. BUT IF WE WANTED TO ENGAGE IN A TWO WAY PLATFORM WITH OUR CITIZENS, WE COULD SEND OUT SIMPLE POLLS TO THEM TO SOLICIT SOME FEEDBACK. AN IMPORTANT FEATURE HERE IS WE CAN ALSO SEND OUT PDFS AND HYPERLINKS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WANTED TO SEND OUT A NEWSLETTER TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, WE COULD DO THAT AS A HYPERLINK WHERE THEY CLICK ON THAT AND THEN THEY'RE DIRECTED BACK TO OUR CITY'S WEBSITE. PDFS CAN ALSO BE INCLUDED. IF WE HAD THE NEWSLETTER IN THAT FORMAT AND IT WAS JUST SAY TWO PAGES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CIVIC PLUS COULD HANDLE. AND THEN DIRECT ALL THE SHARING THAT WE DO THERE BACK TO OUR WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA. SO HERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF OUR STARTING SIMPLE APPROACH. WE'D LIKE TO PURCHASE THIS MODULE WITH MASS NOTIFICATION. CIVIC PLUS IS ALREADY A PLATFORM THAT OUR STAFF IS FAMILIAR WITH, OUR CITIZENS ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
WE JUST WANT TO EMBOLDEN AND BOLSTER THAT OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 16 WEEKS WE
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WOULD TRAIN APPROPRIATE STAFF ON ITS USE AND FUNCTIONS. WE WOULD ALSO CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING THE NEWSLETTER ON A SEMI REGULAR BASIS.THERE'S A LOT MORE DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THAT AFFECTS STAFF TIMING.
DISCONTINUED EVERBRIDGE AND WE JUST RECEIVED AN UPDATED QUOTE FROM CIVIC PLUS THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $9,000 WORTH OF SAVING EVERY YEAR. AND THEN LAUNCH THAT FACEBOOK PAGE.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A POLICY THAT GUIDES OUR SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS.
OF COURSE WE ARE CONSIDERING AT THIS POINT THAT COMMENTS WOULD BE TURNED OFF. THIS WOULD AGAIN JUST BE A MESSAGING AMPLIFIER.
WE WOULD OBTAIN A BLUE CHECK FROM FACEBOOK FOR VERIFICATION TO LET OUR RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THIS IS AN OFFICIAL PLATFORM.
THESE ARE OFFICIAL COMMUNICATIONS COMING FROM THE CITY, I THINK THAT HITS EVERYTHING.
OH, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICY THAT'S IMPLEMENTED IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT AND THAT WE'RE NOT POTENTIALLY CREATING ANY, YOU KNOW, OPEN MEETINGS ACT VIOLATIONS.
SO I'VE JUST TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT THIS IMPLEMENTATION WOULD LOOK LIKE. WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS TO START AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR. IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT 10 TO 16 WEEKS TO GET EVERYBODY TRAINED UP TO GET THE TOOL IN PLACE, CREATE THAT FACEBOOK PAGE. AND THEN WHAT WE'D ALSO LIKE TO DO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CIVIC PLUS IS DO A MASS MARKETING EFFORT.
HEY, THE CITY IS USING THIS PLATFORM TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO YOU. PLEASE SIGN UP IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO ALREADY.
THIS IS HOW THE CITY INTENDS TO COMMUNICATE MOVING FORWARD.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE ADVERTISING MATERIALS LIKE A BANNER THAT WE WOULD HANG IN FRONT OF CITY HALL, MAYBE SENDING OUT SOME BROCHURES AS A MASS MAILING AND SOME GENERAL ROAD SIGNS AROUND OUR MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.
HEY, SIGN UP FOR THIS APP OR SIGN UP FOR THESE NOTIFICATIONS. AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO BE CREATING ALL THOSE TEMPLATES I KIND OF ENVISION WITH THE COMMITTEE SETTING UP THOSE SUBDIVISION BASED GEOFENCING POLYGONS WITH THAT. AUSTIN, I'LL INVITE YOU UP HERE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON THE MASS NOTIFICATION PLATFORM.
THANK YOU KENT FOR THAT. SO MY NAME IS AUSTIN SERDE, AS YOU MENTIONED, A REPRESENTATIVE FOR CIVIC FIRST.
WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS? YES, SORRY.
AUSTIN STURDY, LOCATED IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS. CIVIC PLUS REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE MASS COMMUNICATION SOLUTION.
SO AS KENT MENTIONED, THESE ARE SOME FEATURES THAT THE MASS NOTIFICATION DOES PROVIDE.
THERE'S A LONG LIST, THERE'S A FEW THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT. MANY OF THAT KEN ALREADY DID. SO THE GEOFENCING ABLE TO NOTIFY RESIDENTS WHO ARE CERTAIN OR AFFECTED IN A CERTAIN AREA. SO LET'S SAY IF THERE IS A WATER MAIN BREAK OR ANYTHING, YOU CAN SEND OUT RESIDENTS WHO ARE AFFECTED.
IF THERE'S A ROAD CLOSURE, AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU CAN SEND OUT A MESSAGE TO RESIDENTS WHO WILL BE AFFECTED THAT TO DO ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORT, POWER OUTAGES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE AFFECTING ONE PORTION OF THE OVERALL CITY. THAT WAY YOU'RE TARGETING THOSE. IT'S NOT GETTING BLASTED OUT TO PEOPLE WHO IT MIGHT NOT BE RELEVANT AND THEY CAN SEE IT AS, YOU KNOW, A NUISANCE IF THEY'RE GETTING TOO MANY MESSAGES ABOUT NOT SOMETHING IN THEIR SPECIFIC AREA.
ANOTHER ONE OF THESE IS MULTI CHANNEL SO WE CAN SEND MESSAGES FROM A ADMIN APP OFF IF IT'S AFTER HOURS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AGAIN, POWER OUTAGE, THOSE CAN BE SENT AND THAT CAN BE POSTED DIRECTLY TO THE WEBSITE, DIRECTLY TO SOCIAL MEDIA, TEXT, EMAIL TEXT TO SPEECH, MULTI DIFFERENT CHANNELS THAT CAN BE SENT THROUGH ONE POST. THE EASE OF SIGN UP FOR THE RESIDENTS.
SO RESIDENTS CAN SIGN UP FOR THESE ONLINE VIA A QR CODE THAT THAT CAN BE CREATED FOR A SPECIFIC ITEM OR A SPECIFIC SUBJECT THAT WE'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH. THERE'S A MY ALERT MOBILE APP THAT THEY CAN DOWNLOAD AS WELL THAT HAS MOBILE ACCESS, WHETHER ON A DESKTOP OR MOBILE PHONE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT RESIDENTS CAN SIGN UP JUST VIA HYPERLINK ON THE WEBSITE, THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEN THE TRANSITION FROM WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY USING. SO THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ALREADY SIGNED UP FOR ALERT CENTER OR ANYTHING ON THE WEBSITE CURRENTLY WE CAN IMPORT THOSE EXISTING CONTACTS INTO THE NEW SYSTEM. DURING THE IMPLEMENTATION THERE IS A PROJECT MANAGER WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE OF YOURS. SO YOU'LL HAVE ONE POINT OF CONTACT THROUGH YOUR IMPLEMENTATION WHO WILL PROVIDE YOUR TRAINING DEDICATED SUPPORT. ONCE YOU DO GO LIVE WITH THE SYSTEM, YOU HAVE TECH SUPPORT WHO IS THERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU'LL HAVE AN ACCOUNT MANAGER WHO CAN HELP ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS A DEDICATED CLIENT SUCCESS MANAGER FOR ANY FUNCTIONALITY, DAY TO DAY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO YOU HAVE A MULTITUDE OF MEMBERS MOVING FORWARD WHO CAN ASSIST YOU WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE
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AFTER GO LIVE AS WELL AS HELP MAKE A PLAN FOR MARKETING THIS WHEN IT DOES GO LIVE. SO I THINK THE THING THAT I'VE SEEN MOST EFFECTIVE IS ADDING A SPLASH SCREEN TO THE WEBSITE.SO IF SOMEONE GOES ON THE WEBSITE THERE'S GOING TO BE A POP UP WINDOW WHEN THEY'RE FIRST GOING ON AND IT'LL SAY WE'VE MOVED TO THIS NEW THING. WE'D LIKE YOU TO SIGN UP FOR ALERTS. PLEASE CLICK THIS LINK AND THEN IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THAT PAGE WHERE THEY CAN SIGN UP, THEY CAN CLOSE THAT. OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S A GOOD WAY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU FIRST LAUNCH SOMETHING TO GET MORE EYES ON IT, GET AS MANY PEOPLE TO SIGN UP AS POSSIBLE AND THEN JUST CIVIC PLUS AS A WHOLE BEING THAT LONG TERM PARTNER FOCUSED ON HELPING THE CITY COMMUNICATE WITH THE RESIDENTS WHAT WHILE DECREASING STAFF EFFORTS TO DO SO. AND THEN I CAN OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
SO I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAVE A SAMPLE OF WHAT A MESSAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE? CURRENTLY WE GET A WALL OF TEXT AND IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME ON AN EMAIL AND A TEXT MESSAGE IS VERY DIFFICULT TO READ. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW VISUALLY WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR THE PERSON ON THEIR PHONE? YEAH. I DON'T HAVE AN EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN WORK WITH ROBIN AND THE ACCOUNT MANAGER, CAROLYN, ON AND GET AN EXAMPLE TO SHOW YOU A SAMPLE OF ONE, BUT DO NOT HAVE ONE AT THE TIME.
AND THEN I GUESS MAYBE THIS IS FOR KENT. WHEN YOU HAVE THE PDF. WOULD THAT BE IF WE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES OR WHATEVER WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION PIECE AND THEIR MARKETING MATERIALS. WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD THEN LIKE THE BULK TRASH STAYS AND THEN ATTACH THAT TO AND SEND IT OUT THAT WAY AS WELL? ABSOLUTELY. I SEE US BEING ABLE TO GET AN INFOGRAPHIC, SAY FROM OUR SOLID WASTE VENDOR AND THEN BEING ABLE TO IMPORT THAT AS A PDF INTO MASS NOTIFICATIONS AND BLASTING THAT OUT. AUSTIN, DID YOU ALSO WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT? I'M SORRY.
AFTER THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FINISH WITH THEIR QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ROUTINE NOTIFICATIONS, PORTIONS OF MASS NOTIFICATIONS AND THEN THE EMERGENCY ASPECT OF THAT.
BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A DATABASE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE FOR THE EMERGENCY SIDE OF IT.
SO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T NECESSARILY SIGNED UP.
OKAY, PERFECT. SO YEAH, YOU CAN USE THIS OBVIOUSLY BOTH WAYS.
SO THERE'S EMERGENCY SIDE OF THINGS, SO THERE'S INTEGRATION INTO IPAWS FOR WEATHER ALERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT CAN BE AUTOMATICALLY SENT OUT TO EVERYONE WHETHER THEY'RE SIGNED UP OR NOT. THOSE EMERGENCY ALERTS, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE SIGNED UP. YOU CAN FORCE ALERTS TO PEOPLE IF IT IS AN EMERGENCY WHILE ALSO USING THE SERVICE ADS, YOU KNOW, TRASH PICKUP AND THOSE JUST KIND OF MESSAGES, THOSE DAY TO DAY MESSAGES YOU WANT TO GET OUT. WHEREAS THE EMERGENCY SIDE OF THINGS WITH INTEGRATIONS WITH IPAWS FOR WEATHER ALERTS, YOU KNOW, FIRE, ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR IMPACT IN EMERGENCY, YOU CAN PUSH THOSE NOTIFICATIONS OUT TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T SIGNED UP VIA WHITE PAGES, YELLOW PAGES, ET CETERA.
THE FIRST IS WHEN YOU'RE MARKETING, I WOULD TO LIKE RECOMMEND YOU CONTACT ALL THE HOAS IN TOWN AS ANOTHER AVENUE TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT. SO FOR ME, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH OUR CURRENT SYSTEM IS THE SIGNUP IS VERY CONFUSING AND I'VE HAD TO WALK PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROCESS. IS THIS GOING TO BE CHANGED OR STREAMLINED OR SOMETHING? THE EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE SEEN ARE A BIT MIRRORED FOR WHAT CURRENTLY TAKES PLACE WITH.
NOTIFY ME WHERE THERE ARE THOSE PERSONALIZED, YOU KNOW, SELECTIONS YOU CAN MAKE WHEN YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR NOTIFICATIONS. THAT WAY WE'RE NOT OVERWHELMED, OVERWHELMING OUR COMMUNITY WITH STUFF THAT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THEM. THE INTERFACE I SAW LOOKED A LITTLE LESS CLUNKY THAN NOTIFY ME.
YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH NOTIFY ME IS THERE'S SO MANY CATEGORIES WE'VE GOT OUT THERE AND THAT'S. I MEAN, THAT'S ON US. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE SOFTWARE'S FAULT.
WE DISCUSSED STREAMLINING THOSE AND CUTTING THOSE DOWN BECAUSE IT IS EXTENSIVE THE WAY IT CURRENTLY IS AND IT'S TOO MANY.
THAT WILL BE CUT DOWN AND A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED.
MAYOR PRO TEM, ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I LIKE THE PLAN.
I GREW TO OVERHEAD AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE GETTING TO CUT OUT EVERBRIDGE AND SAVE ALL THIS
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MONEY, LIKE IT'S A BIG. IT'S A BIG SAVINGS TO OUR RESIDENTS.SO IT'S A GREAT CHOICE. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER COMPANIES.
THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE FEATURES THAT SOME OTHER COMPANIES DID, LIKE THE BACK AND FORTH AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WE JUST FELT THAT THIS WAS THE BEST FIT DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE ALREADY USE THIS SOFTWARE AND A LOT OF OTHER ASPECTS WITHIN THE CITY AND STAFF ALREADY KNOWS IT. SO WE FELT THIS WAS THE BEST FIT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING EVERBRIDGE. IS THERE A YEARLY COST FOR THIS SOFTWARE? THERE IS. THE PROPOSAL FOR ANNUAL REOCCURRING IS $5,000 FOR CIVIC PLUS.
OF COURSE, THE QUOTE THAT WE INCLUDED, THE AGENDA PACKET ALSO INCLUDED THIS CIVIC SEND COMPONENT.
BUT THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED THAT IN DETAIL AND WE DECIDED TO CUT THAT OUT BECAUSE WE SEE THE MASS NOTIFICATIONS IS REALLY THE MODULE THAT WE NEED AND WE CAN FIT THE NEWSLETTER WHICH CIVIC SEND KIND OF FOCUSED ON. WE COULD FIT THAT INTO MASS NOTIFICATIONS DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT'S GOING TO END UP LOOKING LIKE THEN WAS THERE.
OKAY, IT'S BEEN A MINUTE. I SEE WE RECALL SOMETHING WITH CIVIC PLUS AND FACEBOOK AND STORING LIKE SERVING AS WHERE WE WOULD PULL PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS AND THAT YOU WOULD ARCHIVE THOSE FOR US. IS THAT CORRECT? SO THERE'S A SOLUTION THAT CIVIC PLUS HAS CALLED SOCIAL MEDIA ARCHIVING, WHICH ARCHIVES ALL OF YOUR FACEBOOK, TWITTER, YOU KNOW, ANY THOSE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND AUTOMATICALLY ARCHIVE THEMSELVES. SYSTEM THAT'S NOT PART OF THE WEBSITE OR MASS NOTIFICATION. THAT'S A SEPARATE SOLUTION CALLED SOCIAL MEDIA ARCHIVING. SO THERE IS THE CAPABILITY OUT THERE. IT IS A DIFFERENT SOLUTION THAT CIVIC PLUS HAS THOUGH.
THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE QUOTE BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT.
WELL, COUNCILMEMBER HALBERT, IN YOUR RESEARCH AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESEARCH THAT YOU PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE, WAS THERE IS FACEBOOK DOING THAT ON THEIR OWN. IF WE WERE TO INDICATE WE WERE A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, NO, WE WOULD ACTUALLY.
THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A RECEPTACLE FOR US TO GO TO. THEY WOULD MAINTAIN IT, THEY WOULD PULL IT, BUT THEY WON'T GO LOOK FOR IT.
SO FACEBOOK DOES NOT HAVE A SYSTEM TO DO THAT.
BUT IN THEORY, IF WE WERE TO CRAFT OUR POLICIES WHERE THE CONTENT GOING ON FACEBOOK IS THE CONTENT THAT IS ALREADY PROVIDED IN CIVIC PLUS, THEN WE'RE ALREADY RETAINING THAT INFORMATION IN CIVIC PLUS.
OKAY, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GET WITH KATHRYN ON THAT AND SEE ARE WE CREATING A NEW RECORD IF WE GO TO FACEBOOK AND POST ON FACEBOOK OR IF THE CONTENT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT WAS ALREADY AVAILABLE ON FACEBOOK. CIVIC PLUS, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ON THE POLICY DISCUSSION THAT IS NOT YET HERE. BUT OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD.
I SEE THEM BEING AS DIFFERENT.
IF IT'S A ROAD CLOSURE, WE MIGHT GO ACROSS ALL THE PLATFORMS. BUT IF WE WANT TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE HAVING ICE CREAM ON FRIDAY, JOIN US. THAT MIGHT JUST BE A QUICK FACEBOOK POST AND NOT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO OUT VIA TEXT OR EMAIL. SO IT WILL BE. NO, NOT EXACTLY THE SAME.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU.
ROBIN OR SYDNEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR COMMENT ON? I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT ROD SAID ABOUT THE NOTIFY ME. IT'S CLUNKY. I JUST COUNTED BEFORE THE MEETING.
THERE ARE 17 CATEGORIES CURRENTLY AND WE PROBABLY REALLY ALREADY ONLY POST TO ABOUT FIVE OF THOSE. SO I DON'T THINK SHRINKING THAT DOWN IS GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE FOR US.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AUSTIN, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE MOVE MIGRATE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN NOTIFY ME, WE CAN ONLY MIGRATE THEM INTO A CITY SINGLE MASS NOTIFICATIONS CATEGORY.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO WE CAN ALSO CREATE CATEGORIES IN MASS NOTIFICATIONS, ALTHOUGH I IMAGINE WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO KEEP THAT REAL SMALL. TWO, THREE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN ON THE BACK END WE'LL KNOW.
THIS IS NOTIFY ME. THIS IS MASS NOTIFICATIONS BUT CUSTOMER FACING. THEY JUST KNOW THAT THEY'RE SIGNING UP FOR THESE HANDFUL OF CATEGORIES THAT THEY WANT.
DOES THAT ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS? AND WORKING WITH HOAS IS
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DEFINITELY WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN WATER BILLING. I DON'T HAVE A LIST OF THOSE HOAS. SO IF WE HAVE THAT OR CAN GET THAT, THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL.I'D LIKE TO THANK ROBIN FOR HER INCREDIBLE CONTRIBUTION TO THIS. SHE DID A LOT OF WORK INTO THESE OTHER COMPANIES AND SETTING UP ALL THE MEETINGS WITH THESE OTHER COMPANIES.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. HER LITTLE MINI ME OVER THERE. THANK YOU, BOTH OF YOU. THANK YOU.
AND THANK COLLEEN FOR HER WORK ON FACEBOOK AND OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE OVER OUR HEAD.
AND I DID WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA, WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT FACEBOOK AT THIS POINT. WE'RE NOT GETTING CRAZY AND GETTING ON ALL THE SOCIALS AND TIKTOK AND WHATEVER. WE'RE JUST GONNA GET OUR TOE IN THE WATER WITH THE FACEBOOK. SO YEAH.
CATHERINE, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS IT GIVES YOU LEGAL HEARTBURN? I'M SORRY, I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SOMETHING ELSE WHILE WE'RE SITTING HERE. SO I HAVE NOT BEEN FOCUSED IN TERMS OF GOING SOCIAL MEDIA OR COMMUNICATION.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE CONSIDERING THAT GIVES YOU LEGAL HEARTBURN? NO, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO DEVELOP POLICIES AND LIKE THAT.
BUT JUST OFF THE TOP, MAYOR, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE DISCUSSION IF WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF STAFF DIRECTION ON THE AMOUNT OF ACCOUNTS AND AUTHORITY.
AGAIN, THIS COULD LEAD INTO THAT POLICY. BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE FOR FACEBOOK. IT HAS BEEN A CARRYOVER FROM THE VOLUNTEER DAYS. I THINK THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF THE CONTENT THAT THEY POST.
DEPARTMENT HEADS I'M SURE WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN OVER, YOU KNOW, HAVE CONTROL OVER THE CONTENT THAT THEY'RE POSTING.
BUT WHAT THE COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT IS IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A UNIFIED APPROVAL SO THAT MESSAGES ARE AT LEAST GETTING BACK ADDED BEFORE THEY GO OUT.
ACTUALLY, THIS IS GOING TO VEER INTO AN AGENDA ITEM LATER. BUT IF WE HAD BRAND STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE GOOD WITH YOU SAYING, BUT THIS IS VEERING OFF AND NEEDS GUIDANCE. THAT SORT OF THING IS PART OF THE POLICY.
THE BACKUP OF THE FACEBOOK PAGES ALSO NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, WHICH I DON'T KNOW THOSE ARE EXACTLY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. WE NEED TO FIX THAT. SO I SEE THIS AS GOING THROUGH A COMMUNICATION PERSON EVENTUALLY THAT I THINK WE AS A CITY NEED TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY. AND AFTER DOING ALL THE RESEARCH AND INTERVIEWING OTHER CITIES AND REALIZING THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A LITTLE EASY FACEBOOK PAGE AND QUICK THROUGHOUT A POST, THERE'S A, A LOT OF LAWS THAT ARE INVOLVED, A LOT OF RESEARCH, A LOT OF TIME. A NEWSLETTER TAKES A LOT OF TIME. IT IS GOING TO TAKE A STAFF MEMBER. AND I THINK FOR THIS FIRST YEAR, AS WE'RE JUST PUTTING OUR TOES IN THE WATER, WE DISCUSSED POSSIBLY ONE STAFF MEMBER ADDING THIS TO HER PLATE. BUT THIS WILL BE A FULL TIME JOB AND WE NEED TO START PLANNING FOR THAT.
MR. BARRON, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, I'D LIKE IT TO BE VERY PROFESSIONAL. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS, I DON'T WANT, LIKE, MURPHY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY PUT JOKES AND KIND OF BE SNARKY ON THERE. AND I JUST DON'T. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD PROFESSIONAL LOOK.
WELL, AND THAT'S NOT OUR COMMUNITY, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO START. I THINK THE. THE IDEA WAS THAT IT WOULD BE MORE OF A ELECTRONIC BULLETIN BOARD TO BEGIN WITH. JUST BASICALLY SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THE WATER DEPARTMENT JUST GOT A NEW AWARD, OR FYI, THE BULK PICKUP IS GOING TO MOVE SHIFT WHEN ONE DAY.
THAT SORT OF THING. JUST INFORMATIONAL, BUT WITH COOL GRAPHICS.
SO ARE WE THINKING A UNIFIED FACEBOOK PAGE, OR ARE WE THINKING DEPARTMENTAL PAGES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FACE OR FIRE DEPARTMENT? I THINK TO START, WE SHOULD HAVE A UNIFORM LIKE ONE STOP SHOP JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE BACKUP. I MEAN, LIKE, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO HANDLE THAT WITH. WE'VE GOT TO KEEP IT UP FOR. IN CASE THERE'S AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FOR IT. SO IT'S NOT THAT HARD FOR THEM TO SEND PICTURES TO THE PERSON WHO'S IN CHARGE OF POSTING, AND IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T POST THAT OFTEN, AND
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IT'S NOT THAT MUCH MATERIAL.SO I THINK HAVING ONE PERSON CONTROL IT ALL UNTIL WE GET OUR HANDS ON THIS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO START AND TO COVER US WITH LEGALITIES.
I ALSO, WHEN WE GET TO THE POLICY, HAVE QUESTIONS AROUND.
IN MY RESEARCH, IT TALKS A LOT ABOUT CITY COUNCIL AND THE DELINEATION OF OUR PERSONAL PAGE AND US TALKING ABOUT CITY BUSINESS ON OUR PERSONAL PAGE, AND DOES THAT BECOME PART OF OPEN RECORDS? BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FOR STAFF. SO, YOU KNOW, IF ROBIN'S LIKE, HEY, WE'VE GOT A NEW WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICE, AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, DOES THAT BECOME LIKE, HAS SHE JUST NOW OPENED UP A CAN OF WORMS FOR HERSELF? AND.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING PROBLEMS FOR ANYONE.
GOING BACK TO THE ISSUE OF WHETHER TO HAVE SEPARATE PAGES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, ADMINISTRATIVE, MAYBE CITY COUNCIL, ALL THAT YOU SAID, PROBABLY JUST HAVE ONE. THE ONLY CONCERN I WOULD HAVE ABOUT THAT IS IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU'VE GOT ONE SINGLE PRESENCE ONLINE ON FACEBOOK, THE MESSAGES ARE GOING TO GET PUSHED IF YOU HAVE. AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE POSTING EVERY HOUR, BUT EVEN IF YOU'RE POSTING ON AN IMPORTANT ISSUE A COUPLE OF TIMES A DAY OR A WEEK. AN IMPORTANT ISSUE COULD GET PUSHED DOWN IN THE POST JUST BY THE WAY FACEBOOK POSTS SHOW UP. AND WE MIGHT HAVE CITIZENS MISS SOMETHING IMPORTANT FROM POLICE OR FROM FIRE BECAUSE WE POSTED JUST SOME INFORMATIONAL PIECE ABOUT AN UPCOMING EVENT OR SOMETHING. I JUST THINK WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT HOW WE KEEP THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS AT THE TOP.
SO I HAVE A COUPLE THOUGHTS ON THAT. ONE I'M WRITING DOWN IF WE CAN PIN POSTS AT THE TOP SO THEY STAY UP THERE.
BUT ALSO SOME OF THIS IS IT'S NOT JUST NEW.
IT'S WHAT'S BEING ENGAGED WITH TENDS TO BUBBLE TO THE TOP AS WELL. SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF DID THE ICE CREAM SOCIAL GET WAY MORE ENGAGEMENT AND THE IMPORTANT FIRE DEPARTMENT PIECE IS NOT. AND SO IT'S SHRUNK DOWN.
RIGHT. BUT WE'RE NOT DOING TWO WAY COMMUNICATIONS. IT'S REALLY JUST POSTING SO THERE WON'T BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION SO THEY CAN LIKE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMENTS. OKAY THEN AT THIS TIME WE NEED TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON MOVING FORWARD OR NOT MOVING FORWARD OR WHAT DO WE WANT THEM TO DO? MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN.
OKAY. IS EVERYBODY READY TO DO THAT? OKAY. KENT, DO YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE OR ROBIN? OKAY.
WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN AS PRESENTED.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE KEEP UP WITH HOW MUCH STAFF TIME THIS TAKES BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO REALIZE HOW IS THIS GOING TO. WE'RE GOING TO NEED A FULL TIME PERSON IN A YEAR, IN SIX MONTHS. I'D LIKE TO KEEP A RECORD OF HOW MANY HOURS YOU MAY SPEND. SEND ME THE SAME THING SO WE CAN. AND ANYBODY ELSE, I MEAN KENNY, RALPH, PATTY, I DON'T KNOW WHO KENT, I THINK LILY'S GOING TO PICK UP SOME.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO SPEAK, SET THIS UP AND TO TRAIN. SO THIS FIRST SIX MONTHS IS NOT REALLY A GOOD JUDGE OF THAT.
BUT ONCE WE'RE UP AND RUNNING TO REALLY GIVE US A HEADS UP BEFORE WE NEED A FULL TIME PERSON WOULD BE I GUESS MY POINT.
AND REALLY CAN WE UTILIZE A CONTRACT EMPLOYEE? THERE'S PLENTY OF SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGERS OUT THERE THAT IF WE ONLY NEED 20 HOURS A WEEK AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO BENEFITS.
AND MAY I WE'LL JUST MENTION I DON'T THINK CINDY MEYER WAS RECOGNIZED FOR HER WORK. SHE'S OVER THERE HIDING BEHIND CHEAP PRICE.
SHE WAS PART OF THE COMMITTEE AND WAS VERY VALUABLE TO US.
THANK YOU. AND THANK ROBIN AND SYDNEY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND COLLEEN AND MS. ROXANNE AND KEMP WHO WAS JUST HANGING AROUND. OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE ON COMMUNICATIONS? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE COMMUNICATIONS WORKSHOP AT 6:29.
THE MEETING, THE COUNCIL MEETING WILL START AT SEVEN. I HEREBY CALL THE
[CALL TO ORDER ]
CITY OF PARKER CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER.IT'S AUGUST 4, 2026. IT IS 7PM
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AT THIS TIME I WILL ASK MS. HALL, DO I HAVE A QUORUM? YES, MADAM.AT THIS TIME I WILL ASK APRIL LAURA IF SHE WILL LEAD US IN THE AMERICAN PLEDGE AND QUEEN FRED KIRCHHOFF IF HE WILL LEAD US IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE.
OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEDGE TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER ONE.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS ]
THANK YOU. THIS TIME WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS. I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE DO HAVE WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM SARAH TOTH AND MARCUS ARIAS.WRITTEN COMMENTS ARE NOT READ INTO THE PUBLIC. THEY ARE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES OF THIS PROCEEDINGS. SO. AND WITH THIS I HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS CARD FROM MISTY VENTURA.
MISTY VENTURA, 9406 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TX 75218.
ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD SOME STATEMENTS THAT BUDDY PILGRIM MADE DURING THE JULY 21ST MEETING. I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO DO THIRD OF ONE ACRE LOTS HERE. THIRD OF AN ACRE IS THE NUMBER THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN SATISFIED WITH HUFFINES ALL ALONG. SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ANOTHER COMMENT. WE'D GET MURPHY TO STILL PROVIDE THE SEWER.
ANOTHER COMMENT. I WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING BIGGER THAN 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. THE REQUEST OF PHILIP HUFFINES, I AM HERE TO OFFER A PROPOSED SETTLEMENT TO ALL THE DISPUTES RELATED TO THE RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS PROJECT. PHILLIP HAS AUTHORIZED ME TO OFFER TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT HE'S WILLING TO DO THREE UNITS TO THE ACRE WITH A MINIMUM OF 11,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS IF PARKER AND MURPHY WILL AGREE BY INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT MURPHY WILL PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER FOR THOSE LOTS. THIS PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IS A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH PARKER AND MURPHY.
BECAUSE MURPHY THE LOTS ARE REDUCED IN NUMBER, WHICH APPEARS TO BE A GOAL OF THE COMMUNITY. MURPHY.
BECAUSE IF MURPHY PROVIDES SEWER, IT ELIMINATES THE DISCHARGE PERMIT AND ELIMINATES THE TEMPORARY TREATMENT PLANT.
SO WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER THIS OFFER SERIOUSLY DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE PROFESSIONAL TEAM WILL REMAIN THROUGH THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT AND DISCUSS IT AND HAPPY TO NEGOTIATE WITH YOU IN A PUBLIC FORUM. IF YOU'RE UNWILLING TO SETTLE THIS DISPUTE AND YOU'RE CONTINUING DOWN THE ROAD OF SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON LEGAL FEES, I HOPE YOU ARE TRANSPARENT WITH YOUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE COST OF THOSE LEGAL FEES. THIS COMMUNITY HAS SPENT OVER $1.4 MILLION IN LEGAL FEES SO FAR AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT THE AUTHORIZATION OF ADDITIONAL LITIGATION AFTER THE LAST EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO IF YOU'RE UNWILLING TO SETTLE THIS DISPUTE AT THREE UNITS TO THE ACRE, 11,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, MURPHY PROVIDING WATER AND SEWER, THEN I'M RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOU TO HONOR YOUR OATH OF OFFICE AND FOLLOW STATE LAW.
CONFIRM THE CONDITIONS THAT THE RESTORE THE GRASSLAND PLAT ARE SATISFIED. CONFIRM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HONOR YOUR WATER CCN OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE WATER TO THIS PROJECT AND RELEASE THE 1 ACRE ADJACENT TO 2551 CONSISTENT WITH THE DI ANNEXATION PETITION THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THIS COUNCIL.
CASEY STEVENSON, 485 MILLWOOD HIGHLAND VILLAGE, TX 75077. I'M HERE TODAY AS A REPRESENTATIVE
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FOR RESTART THE GRASSLANDS AND HUFFINES COMMUNITIES. I'VE BEEN PART OF THE PROJECT TEAM THAT HAS PUT TOGETHER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED IN 2025 AND 2024. AS PART OF THAT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT OR BOTH OF THOSE AGREEMENTS, WE WERE OFFERING LOTS THAT WERE PRIMARILY 8,400 SQUARE FEET.AND LAST CITY COUNCIL IT WAS COMMUNICATED THAT Y' ALL WOULD BE OPEN TO ROUGHLY 11,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. THE RTG DEVELOPMENT IS WILLING TO REDUCE ITS DENSITY FURTHER TO 11,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM AND CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE WITH PARKER IN GOOD FAITH.
IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, WE WOULD ASK THAT PARKER SUPPORT US IN GETTING WATER AND SEWER FROM THE CITY OF MURPHY. CITY SERVICES FROM THE CITY OF MURPHY WILL ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. AND WITH OUR REDUCTION IN DENSITY AND THE LOSS OF A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS CAN BE SEEN AS A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH THE CITY OF PARKER AND THE CITY OF MURPHY. I HOPE THIS CAN THIS OFFER CAN SERVE AS PRODUCTIVE NEGOTIATIONS IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.
HI APRIL LO ERA 7301 MEADOW GLEN IN PARKER ON 425.
THE OUTDOOR MUSIC COMING FROM A NEIGHBOR ONE STREET OVER WAS SO OFFENSIVELY LOUD, IT WAS NOT ONLY HEARD, IT COULD BE FELT VIBRATING THROUGH THE INSIDE OF OUR HOOD OF OUR HOUSE. I CALLED THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ASKED FOR POLICE ASSISTANCE TWICE.
THERE WERE OVER THREE HOURS, BUT BETWEEN MY FIRST AND SECOND CALLS, WHICH RESULTED IN ZERO REDUCTION IN NOISE.
SOMETIME AFTER MY SECOND CALL, MY HUSBAND ALSO CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REPORT THE ONGOING NOISE DISTURBANCE. THE OBNOXIOUS, LOUD, AND BOOMING MUSIC LASTED FOR HOURS. WE HAD TO LEAVE OUR OWN HOME TO GET REPRIEVE FROM THE NOISE. THE NOISE ORDINANCE CLEARLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, ESPECIALLY FOR A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
HI, I'M MELISSA AXE. I LIVE AT 5306 MCCREARY ROAD. AND I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF APRIL AND MCCREE STATES. I LIVE IN MOSS RIDGE SUBDIVISION WHICH IS ABOUT A MILE AWAY FROM THE MCCREERY ESTATES. AND I TOO COULD HEAR THE LOUD BOOMING MUSIC. MY HOUSE FACES MCCREERY ROAD. SO IT'S SET.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S ABOUT A MILE AWAY FROM WHERE APRIL LIVES OR MORE. AND WE CALLED. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY TIME WE'VE HAD REALLY LOUD MUSIC COMING FROM THAT SUBDIVISION AFTER 11 O' CLOCK AT NIGHT. AND I DO AGREE WITH, THERE SHOULD BE A CERTAIN LEVEL THAT'S ACCEPTABLE FOR MUSIC. I MEAN, I'M NOT AGAINST PEOPLE HAVING PARTIES.
IF YOU CAN HEAR IT TO MY HOUSE AND I'M THAT FAR AWAY FROM THEM, I COULD HEAR IT THROUGH A CLOSED DOOR, THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PRETTY LOUD.
AND I'VE ALSO CALLED IN WHEN WE'VE HEARD THAT, THE LOUD NOISES.
BUT I DO AGREE WE SHOULD HAVE LIKE A MINIMUM, LIKE AT LEAST WHEN IT GETS TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, WHICH I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH COMMON SENSE WHEN IT GETS THAT LOUD, YOU KNOW, IT AND A CERTAIN CUTOFF TIME, LIKE, YOU KNOW, 11 O' CLOCK OR, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN TIME JUST BECAUSE IT IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY. NOT
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST ]
HEARING ANY. THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS OF INTEREST THAT I'LL COVER.ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12TH AT 5PM THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION WILL MEET IN THIS ROOM. EVERYONE IS WELCOME IF YOU WISH TO GO TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEET ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 13 AND AGAIN ON AUGUST 27, PLANNING AND ZONING IS MEETING IN THIS ROOM AT 5PM ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 6 WILL BE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. AND THE REASON I'M ANNOUNCING THAT NOW IS IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN NATIONAL NIGHT OUT OR YOUR SUBDIVISION DOES, PLEASE CONTACT MICHELLE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SHE
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KEEPS A LIST OF ALL THE SUBDIVISIONS AND AREAS THAT WANT TO HAVE POLICE, FIRE, CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE OUT AT THEIR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT CELEBRATION. SO IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO START PLANNING NOW. SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER 29TH AND OH YEAH, WE FORGOT ABOUT IT. SO PLEASE CALL MICHELLE NOW. SHE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. AND ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 18TH WILL BE PARKER FEST FROM 2 TO 5 IN THE PARK, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL. WE HOPE YOU'LL ALL BE THERE. IF ANYONE WANTS TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE COME.JUST CONTACT ME. OR YOU CAN CONTACT JUST ABOUT ANYBODY UP HERE AND WE WILL HELP WITH THAT. OR COME TO THE PARKS AND RECS MEETING. WE'LL
[CONSENT AGENDA ]
BE HAPPY TO SIGN YOU UP THERE. OKAY, THEN. THAT'S THAT. NOW WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR JULY 21ST 1ST, 2026, AND CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 919, APPROVING A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT BETWEEN THE ATMOS CITIES STEERING COMMITTEE, OF WHICH THE CITY OF PARKER IS A MEMBER, IN ATMOS ENERGY CORPORATION, MIDTECH'S DIVISION REGARDING THE COMPANY 2026 RATE REVIEW MECHANISM, FILING AND ADOPTING TARIFFS TO REFLECT RATE ADJUSTMENTS.COUNSEL, I WILL ASK, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WANTS ANYTHING PULLED OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
NOT HEARING ANY. THEN I WOULD CONSIDER A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN.
YES. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BOGDAN AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARRON TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AT ALL? NOT HEARING ANY. I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.
OKAY. I WILL NOTE THAT ATMOS REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE AND WOULD HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS HAD YOU HAD ANY. WE DO. THANK
[5. RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON PROPOSALS FOR SOLID WASTE SERVICES AND CONDUCT INTERVIEWS OF SOLID WASTE VENDOR FINALISTS. ]
YOU FOR BEING HERE. NOW WE WILL GO TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS RECEIVE A PRESENTATION OR ON PROPOSALS FOR SOLID WASTE SERVICES AND CONDUCT INTERVIEWS OF SOLID WASTE VENDOR FINALISTS. OKAY. I BELIEVE, MR. MATTEN, YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION.I DO, I DO. MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY.
SIR, I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON OUR RFP PROCESS FOR SOLID WASTE SERVICES. SO, JUST GOING OFF A COUPLE BULLETS HERE. SO IF YOU'RE UNAWARE, BACK IN MARCH, CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO PROCEED WITH ISSUING AN RFP FOR COMPETITIVE SOLID WASTE PROPOSALS. AND THEN ON THE 19TH, CITY COUNCIL REVIEWED OUR SOLICITATION AND PROVIDED FURTHER DIRECTION ON WHAT THAT RFP WAS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE. SO OUR CURRENT CONTRACT FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNAWARE IS SET TO EXPIRE ON JANUARY 1, 2027, RIGHT IN THE MIDST OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON. SO WE DO NEED TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO OUR CURRENT VENDOR OF INTENTION DETERMINATION BY OCTOBER 1, 2026. JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE FOR REFERENCE.
THE LAST RFP PROCESS WAS PERFORMED IN 2021, AND THREE PROPOSALS WERE SUBMITTED.
THOSE CAME FROM REPUBLIC WASTE CONNECTIONS AND CWD. SO SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES OF THE RFP PROCESS, THIS WAS VERY ROBUST, AS I'VE SAID IN THE PAST, I THINK I'VE OVERUSED THAT WORD.
DETAILED AND HEAVILY STACKED IN THE CITY OF PARKER'S FAVOR.
SOME OF THE GOALS INCLUDED MAINTAINING COSTS FOR THAT AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD. WE WANTED TO HAVE A VERY OBJECTIVE EVALUATION PROCESS BASED SOLELY ON PRE PUBLISHED SCORING CRITERIA. WE ALSO WANTED THERE TO BE FLEXIBILITY IN THE OPTIONS THAT WE PURSUE FOR BOTH CITY COUNCIL AND FOR THE PROSPECTIVE PROPOSERS ALIKE. WE ALSO WANTED TO SPELL OUT SOME PERFORMANCE MECHANISMS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD
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AT OUR DISPOSAL IN THE PAST.SO ESSENTIALLY HAVING OUR SOLAR BASED PROVIDER PUT THE MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS. IF YOU'RE FAILING TO PERFORM ON CERTAIN ASPECTS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO REIMBURSE THE CITY. I WILL JUST MENTION THIS RFP WAS PROCESSED, WAS DRAFTED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR UTILITY BILLING ADMINISTRATOR WHO DEALS WITH THE MAJORITY OF COLLECTION ISSUES PERSONALLY. AND SO IT WAS VERY VALUABLE TO US THAT WE HAD HER INPUT AS PART OF THE PROCESS. SO OVERVIEW OF THE TIMELINE RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS AUGUST 4TH. THIS IS WHEN WE SCHEDULED FOR FORMAL INTERVIEWS TO TAKE PLACE. WE'RE COLORING A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE THE LINES, SOMETHING THAT OUR RFP ALLOWED FOR. SO WE'VE INVITED OUR FINALISTS HERE TO SPEAK AND PRESENT AND PERFORM AN INFORMAL INTERVIEW WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY. OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO BRING FORTH A RECOMMENDATION AND A CONTRACT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON THE 18TH. AND SO POST THAT AWARD PROCESS, NEGOTIATIONS WOULD BEGIN WITH THE PROSPECTIVE AWARDEE.
AND THEN ASSUMING EVERYTHING GETS HASHED OUT, THEN WE WOULD INITIATE THE CONTRACT WITH CITY COUNCIL AT A FUTURE MEETING. SO EDUCATION BEGINS ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. AND THEN OF COURSE THAT NEW CONTRACT IS SET TO BEGIN ON JANUARY 1, 2027. JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE COMPONENTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THIS RFP. WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT HEAVILY THE TRANSITION PLAN THAT THE PROPOSERS WERE PREPARING. THAT IS HOW ARE TO YOU GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY PHONES ARE NOT RINGING OFF THE HOOK IN THE MIDST OF YOUR TRANSITION. AND THEN OF COURSE PRICE TOOK UP 35 PERCENTAGE OF OUR EVALUATION.
AND OF COURSE THE INTERVIEW SCORING PROCESS, WE HAVE NOT DETERMINED THAT TO BE NEEDED AT THIS TIME. SO OVERVIEW OF THIS RFP CONTINUED. SO WE ISSUED THAT COMPETITIVE EVALUATION. WE'RE EVALUATING SOLID WASTE, RECYCLING, BRUSH, BULK HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE.
AS YOU REMEMBER, THAT WAS A SERVICE WE HAD TO DISCONTINUE BACK IN DECEMBER DUE TO RISING COSTS.
THIS IS A VERY TRANSPARENT PROCESS. THE SOLICITATION ESTABLISHED VERY STRICT SUBMISSION RULES. WE HAD A MANDATORY PRE PROPOSAL MEETING.
SO IF YOU DID NOT SHOW UP FOR THAT AND ENGAGE WITH US, HEAR FROM THE CITY. HAVE YOUR, YOUR CONCERNS AND FEEDBACK HEARD, THEN YOU WERE NOT ELIGIBLE TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL. WE ENDED UP RECEIVING FIVE PROPOSALS.
SO IT WAS A VERY COMPETITIVE PROCESS. THOSE RECEIVED FROM FIVE DIFFERENT QUALIFIED VENDORS FROM ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS, EACH PROVIDING REQUIREMENTS ON THEIR OPERATIONAL PLANS, EQUIPMENT STANDARDS, CUSTOMER SERVICE COMMITMENTS, AND THE RATE STRUCTURES. SO WE HAD AN INDEPENDENT SCORING PROCESS. SO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE RECEIVED ALL THE MATERIALS FROM THE SUBMISSIONS AT THE SAME TIME AND THEN IT WAS UP TO THEM TO SCORE THOSE INDEPENDENTLY.
IT WASN'T UNTIL WE ALL CONVENED ON THE 29TH TO TABULATE THOSE WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO SEE WHO WAS DETERMINED AS THE FRONT RUNNER, THE SECOND AND SO FORTH. AND THEN OF COURSE WITH THAT WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THE BEST VALUE FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. THE FINALISTS SELECTED WERE COMMUNITY WIDE DISPOSAL AND SO WE BROUGHT THEM HERE FOR YOU. AS I MENTIONED, THE INTERVIEW PROCESS HAS BEEN ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY, BUT IF CITY COUNCIL DESIRES FOR THAT INTERVIEW PROCESS TO BE INCLUDED, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD STILL FIT IN. OUR TIMELINE IS GETTING PRETTY TIGHT. I WILL JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE AND THEN I WILL JUST POINT OUT THAT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO ISSUE A NOTICE OF AWARD TO THE FINALIST. SELECT YOUR SERVICE OFFERINGS. IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE HAD RATE BREAKDOWN BASED ON ONE CART, TWO CARTS RECYCLING EVERY OTHER WEEK JUST TO BE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT PATH WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH RATE STRUCTURES AND THEN AUTHORIZED STAFF TO BEGIN CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL. YOU PROBABLY NOTICED THAT THERE WERE SOME EXCEPTIONS TAKEN TO OUR PROPOSED CONTRACT AND I'M SURE CWD CAN SPEAK TO THOSE TONIGHT. AND WITH THAT I'LL INTRODUCE MR. JASON, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT.
AS CITY ADMINISTRATOR SAID, MY NAME IS JASON RAMER.
I'M THE PRESIDENT AT COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL. I'M JOINED THIS EVENING BY PAUL HANSON, OUR GENERAL MANAGER AND ROBERT MEDICOVICH, OUR MUNICIPAL COORDINATOR. SO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT CWD. MY FATHER STARTED THE COMPANY. GREG RAMER STARTED THE COMPANY BACK IN 1980. AT THE TIME HE RENTED ONE TRUCK OVERNIGHT, BOUGHT 50 DUMPSTERS.
AND WE STARTED IN THE DUMPSTER SIDE LOAD BUSINESS PRIMARILY IN MULTIFAMILY, THE APARTMENT SECTOR OF DALLAS. THAT IS OUR FIRST TRUCK WE EVER OWNED THERE. AND TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT HOW OUR FLEETS EVOLVED OVER TIME. IN 1993 WE RECEIVED OUR FIRST MUNICIPAL CONTRACT.
SO THAT IS DOING RECYCLE COLLECTION AND PROCESSING FOR THE CITY OF EULESS. THAT'S A CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE OVER THREE AND A HALF DECADES LATER, THEY'VE NEVER GONE OUT FOR BID, SOUGHT TO CHANGE VENDORS AND IT'S ONE OF OUR HIGHLY COVETED CONTRACTS. AND JUST A TESTAMENT TO HOW WE HAVE THESE LONG TERM PARTNERSHIPS. IN THE YEAR 2000, WE MOVED TO OUR CURRENT LOCATION WHICH IS AT 2010 CALIFORNIA CROSSING ROAD. IT'S A FEW MILES FROM THE OLD DALLAS COWBOYS FOOTBALL STADIUM. KIND OF GIVES YOU A PERSPECTIVE.
AT THAT TIME WE BOUGHT ABOUT 10 ACRES, INSTALLED OUR FIRST SINGLE STREAM PROCESSING RECYCLING FACILITY. AND TODAY WE SIT ON 23 CONNECTING ACRES AT THE SAME SITE WHERE OUR ENTIRE OPERATION IS HOUSED OUT OF. IN 2015, WE WERE THE FIRST COMPANY IN NORTH TEXAS TO
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ADOPT COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS TRUCKS. SO THESE CNG TRUCKS, AS THEY'RE CALLED, ARE RUNNING ON NATURAL GAS. AND THAT LOWERED OUR COST PER FUEL FROM ABOUT 20 TO 25% TO ABOUT 2 TO 3%. SO WE SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED ONE OF THE KEY COST COMPONENTS OF OPERATION. AND IT ALSO HAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECT, NOISE REDUCTION OF OPERATING CNG TRUCKS, WHERE 98% OF OUR FLEET TODAY IS ALL CNG.IN 2020, WE ECLIPSED 200,000 HOME SERVICE, A PRETTY BIG MILESTONE. AND TODAY THAT NUMBER IS ABOUT 270,000 HOMES, OR ROUGHLY A POPULATION OF ABOUT 1 MILLION PEOPLE PER WEEK THAT CWD IS SERVICING ONLY IN NORTH TEXAS, THE ONE AREA THAT WE OPERATE, 2026. SO WHO ARE WE TODAY? WE'RE OVER 230 COLLECT TRUCKS, 500 PLUS EMPLOYEES, AND GROWING OVER TIME. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR FACILITY THERE ON CALIFORNIA CROSSING. THIS IS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL SHOT IN GOOGLE. IT'S NOT THE MOST UPDATED IMAGE, BUT THIS IS 23 ACRES, ALL CONNECTED AND OUR HUB OF OPERATION, IF YOU WILL. AND TO SHOW OUR INVESTMENT IN NORTH TEXAS AND STAYING HERE, NOT BUILDING FACILITIES IN AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO, OR HOUSTON, WHERE THERE'S OTHER MARKETS. IN 2024, WE DID A $20 MILLION MUNICIPAL BOND WITH DALLAS COUNTY TO INVEST IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR FACILITY. THAT INVOLVED EXPANDING OUR CNG TRUCK PARKING. WE CAN NOW PARK UP TO 260 TRUCKS AT OUR FACILITY. PRIOR TO THAT, WE HAD ABOUT 150 TRUCKS AND 100 PARKING SPOTS.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT TETRIS IN REAL LIFE LOOKED LIKE WITH LARGE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. NUMBER TWO THERE ON YOUR SCREEN. IN MAY OF LAST YEAR, WE COMPLETED OUR TRANSFER STATION EXPANSION. SO WE ARE PERMITTED BY THE TCEQ TO BRING WASTE TO OUR FACILITY, LOAD IT UP IN A BIG TRAILER AND DRIVE IT DOWN TO FERRIS, TEXAS, WHERE THE LANDFILL IS VERY CHEAP TO DUMP. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU ALL? IT MEANS THAT WE CAN PUT A CAP OR A CEILING ON WHAT A LANDFILL CAN CHARGE US.
FOR THIS CONTRACT WE WOULD USE GARLAND LANDFILL. WE PUT A LOT OF TONS THROUGH THEIR FACILITY THERE.
BUT IF THEY WANTED TO RAISE RATES TO $50 A TON. I CAN SAY, NOPE, I CAN BRING IT TO MYSELF. IT MAY. IT MIGHT TAKE MORE TRUCKS, MORE MAN HOURS TO DO SO, BUT IT WOULD KEEP COSTS LOWER THAN WHAT A LANDFILL COULD DICTATE TO ME OR MY CUSTOMERS. NUMBER THREE, THIS WAS A HUGE ENDEAVOR. IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, WE COMPLETED A $10 MILLION UPGRADE OF OUR MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY, OR MRF.
THIS IS WHERE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL RECYCLING IS PROCESSED. WE ESSENTIALLY DOUBLED OUR THROUGHPUT FROM 12 TONS PER HOUR TO 25 TONS PER HOUR AND ALMOST HALVED OUR LABOR AT THE TIME. SAME, SAME TIME. SO AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER COST REDUCTION, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL EXPENDITURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MANAGE THOSE COSTS MOVING FORWARD FOR OUR CUSTOMERS AND MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL HEADWINDS, IF YOU WILL. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS BROKE GROUND A COUPLE MONTHS AGO ON OUR MAINTENANCE RELOCATION EXPANSION. WE'RE REALLY MOVING IT FROM ONE SIDE OF OUR FACILITY TO OUR OTHER SIDE.
BUT THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT THIS IS WE'LL GO FROM ABOUT 11 MAINTENANCE BASE TO 24. THAT WILL BE COMPLETED MID JANUARY OF 2027. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT IS SPENT GOING INTO INFRASTRUCTURE THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY PRODUCE REVENUE, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO MANAGE OUR COSTS AND PROVIDE A GOOD SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS FOR DECADES LONGER. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR FLEET AND TECHNOLOGY.
EACH COLLECTION TRUCK IS EQUIPPED WITH THIRD EYE TELEMATICS, GPS AND SAFETY MONITORING SOFTWARE.
A STANDARD SIDE LOAD TRUCK HAS ABOUT EIGHT CAMERAS ON IT.
WHAT THIS TOOL ALLOWS ME TO DO IS I CAN GET AN ADDRESS, TYPE IT IN MY COMPUTER, AND GET A VIDEO FEED FROM ONE OF THOSE CAMERAS FROM LAST TUESDAY WITHIN A FEW MINUTES.
SO IT ALLOWS US TO VERIFY A MISSED PICKUP. IT ALLOWS US TO VERIFY A DAMAGE CLAIM IF WE CAUSED A RUT OR HIT A MAILBOX. AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PROVING RESIDENTS WRONG.
KIND OF ONE IN TWO TIMES WE FIND OUT WE MISSED IT. MAYBE THE DRIVER ZONED OUT AND JUST MISSED THAT BAG OF TRASH THAT WAS OUT.
BUT IT ALLOWS US TO USE THAT TOOL TO SIT DOWN WITH THE DRIVER, SHOW HIM A VIDEO OF MAYBE A DING DONG MOMENT THAT HE HAD, AND WALK HIM THROUGH HOW HE CAN BE BETTER.
AND ALSO ALLOWS US TO GIVE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, PROOF OF A SERVICE DISPUTE OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT ALSO HAS SAFETY MONITORING. SO ANY G FORCE EVENT, HE SLAMS ON HIS BRAKE, TAKES A HARD TURN, IT KNOWS TO RECORD INSIDE THE CAB. WHAT IS THE DRIVER DOING? IS HE WEARING A SEATBELT? WAS HE ON HIS PHONE? THERE'S SAFETY SCORING METRICS THAT ALLOW US TO DO THAT. PROOF PREVENTATIVE SAFETY MONITORING. OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE COMMUNITY IS JUST THAT.
WE CALL IT A COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT 36 INDIVIDUALS.
WHEN I LEAVE TONIGHT, I'LL GIVE EACH ONE OF YOU MY CARD. PAUL, WILL, ROBERT WILL. AND YOU CAN CALL AND TEXT US AT ANY MOMENT OF THE DAY, THE WEEKEND, AND WE'LL REPLY BACK TO YOU SO THAT THERE'S ALWAYS A DECISION MAKER THAT YOU CAN REACH OUT TO GET INFORMATION FROM IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE IN YOUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. AS PART OF THOSE 36 ARE ABOUT THE 19 INDIVIDUALS THAT SIT BELOW MY OFFICE IN CALIFORNIA CROSSING THAT ARE ANSWERING PHONES ALL DAY, 8 TO 5 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND 8 TO 2 ON SATURDAY. THAT SAME GROUP TOOK ABOUT 160,000 PHONE CALLS LAST YEAR AND THE AVERAGE HOLD TIME WAS AROUND 30
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SECONDS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A CALL CENTER BASED IN PHOENIX OR IN HOUSTON, MANAGING WHOLE AREAS OF THE COUNTRY. IT'S ALL HERE IN NORTH TEXAS AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND WORK AND EAT HERE AS WELL.THIS IS MORE FOR THE UTILITY BILLING AND FOR THE KINS OF THE CITY THAT IT'S REALLY MORE TO SHOW YOU THAT WE HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT'S GOING ON. WE WANT RESIDENTS TO CALL US, NOT PARKER CITY HALL WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SHORT STAFF TO HANDLE A LOT OF WORK. SO WE WANT TO TAKE THOSE CALLS.
AND THESE REPORTS JUST SHARE TRANSPARENCY WITH STAFF HERE AT CITY HALL. WHAT'S GOING ON? WHO CALLED US? WHY DID THEY CALL US IF THERE WAS A MISSED PICKUP? THERE'S DIFFERENT REPORTS THAT SHOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR COMMUNITY. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL PLAN. SO THIS IS PRIMARILY BASED OFF YOUR BASE BIDS. SO YOUR CURRENT SERVICE, WHICH IS WEEKLY TRASH, WEEKLY RECYCLE AND THAT MONTHLY BULK, WE DECIDED REAL QUICKLY, I GUESS I'LL COVER THE MAP ON THE LEFT TO BREAK THE CITY INTO FOUR SECTIONS. SO WE WOULD RUN IT ACROSS FOUR DAYS AS OPPOSED TO TWO TODAY. AND THIS ALLOWS US TO BALANCE OUR ROUTES WITH SEASON VOLUMES GO UP, THE ROUTES ARE SMALLER SO THAT THEY CAN WORK LONGER. WHEN IT'S LIGHTER IN DECEMBER, YOU KNOW THEY'RE FINISHING EARLIER.
BUT IT ALLOWS FOR THE SEASONAL FLUCTUATIONS OF VOLUMES. EACH SERVICE, BOTH TRASH AND RECYCLING WOULD OPERATE ONE 2025 OR 2026 MODEL AUTOMATED SIDE LOAD TRUCK. ALL COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS. I'LL COVER IN A SECOND. BUT ALL OF OUR TRUCKS ARE ALSO EQUIPPED WITH A TAG AXLE THAT THAT WHEN LOADED DROPS DOWN. IT DISPERSES THE WEIGHT AND PRESERVES THE CITY STREETS. WHEN THAT TRUCK IS FULL AND HEADING TO THE LANDFILL, AS I SAID, SERVICE WOULD BE COLLECTING A CWD PROVIDED BRAND NEW 95 GALLON TRASH CART. ONE OR TWO DEPENDING ON THE OPTION SELECTED RECYCLING. THERE'S A ONCE A WEEK, EVERY OTHER WEEK OPTION. ALSO A SIDE LOAD VEHICLE WITH A 95 GALLON BLUE RECYCLE CART. THE BULKY WASTE AND BRUSH COLLECTION. I WAS PERUSING THE CITY'S WEBSITE TODAY AND CAME ACROSS THE BULK CALENDAR. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE IS SIMPLICITY. SO WHAT OUR PLAN IS TO DO IS TO PROVIDE ONCE A MONTH COLLECTION OF UP TO 10 CUBIC YARDS WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE TODAY ON A DESIGNATED WEEK EACH MONTH. SO WE'RE KIND OF EYEING THE THIRD FULL WEEK OF THE MONTH. THAT WORKS WITH OUR OPERATION WHERE EVERY RESIDENT'S BULK AND BRUSH WOULD BE COLLECTED ON THEIR TRASH DAY. SO IF YOU'RE IN MONDAY, ALL OF YOUR BULK AND CRUSH BRUSH IS COLLECTED ON MONDAY OF THE THIRD WEEK. TUESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, ETC. THIS ALLOWS THAT 90 OR ABOUT 75% OF THE MONTH, THE CITY SHOULD BE FREE OF BULK AND BRUSH. WE FOUND THIS TO WORK WITH CODE COMPLIANCE. WHEN WE GOT A BRUSH PILE THAT'S SITTING OUT THERE AND IT'S THE FIRST WEEK, WELL, WAS IT MISSED? WAS IT SET OUT EARLY? DID THEY PUT OUT TOO MUCH? IT JUST ALLOWS THE CITY TO LOOK CLEANER THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME VERSUS ALWAYS HAVING SOME PORTION OF THE CITY WITH BULL CAN BRUSH OUT ANY GIVEN WEEK.
LIKE THE CURRENT SCHEDULE, SERVICE, TRANSITION AND EDUCATION MATERIALS. SO SINCE I BEGAN FULL TIME, I SAY FULL TIME BECAUSE I GREW UP AROUND DUMPSTERS AND I WAS THIS TALL BUT FULL TIME IN 2017. SO THE COURSE NINE YEARS WE'VE TRANSITIONED OVER 15 MUNICIPALITIES. WE ARE PERFECTIONISTS AT THIS. WE DO EVERYTHING IN HOUSE. WE DON'T HIRE A CART COMPANY TO DELIVER OUR CARTS. WE DON'T HIRE ANOTHER COMPANY TO DELIVER DUMPSTERS WHEN NEEDED. WE DO THIS OURSELVES. WE HIRE THE DRIVER THAT'S GOING TO SERVICE THE CITY TO PARTAKE IN THAT DELIVERY PROCESS. THAT ALLOWS US TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE BUT ALSO LEARN THE NUANCES OF A STARTUP. YOU KNOW THIS STREET, YOU GOT TO TURN A LITTLE BIT THIS WAY TO GET DOWN AND NOT CAUSE A RUT. AND DOING THINGS LIKE THAT ALLOW US TO CONTROL THE QUALITY OF SERVICE AS WELL AS INTERACT WITH INDIVIDUALS OF THE COMMUNITY AT THE POINT OF DELIVERING THE THOSE CARTS.
WE AFFIX A RESIDENTIAL BROCHURE. JUST AN EXAMPLE THERE OF LAKE WORTH, WHICH WE STARTED IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR OVER IN TARRANT COUNTY. BUT WE'LL DEVELOP A RESIDENTIAL BROCHURE UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF PARKER.
IT'LL HIGH LEVEL COVER ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER.
IT COULD BE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE BULK AND BRUSH PROGRAM, THE NEW SERVICE MAP, THINGS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE WE ARE MAKING A CHANGE TO THE COLLECTION SCHEDULE. WE CAN ALSO PUT LIKE A BRIGHT YELLOW OR A BRIGHT PINK INSERT THAT'S SPECIFIC TO YOUR TRANSITION.
WHAT DO YOU DO WITH YOUR OLD CARTS? YOU KNOW, REPUBLIC DIDN'T PICK THEM UP DURING THE WEEK THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THE TRANSITION.
JUST THE DIFFERENT SPECIFICS TO THAT TRANSITION CAN BE ON THAT, YOU KNOW, HIGH VIS INSERT, IF YOU WILL. AND I DID PASS OVER, WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE PROGRAM. SO WHAT WE PROPOSED TO THE CITY WAS I BELIEVE IT WAS 80 CENTS PER HOME PER MONTH.
IN ADDITION, IF SELECTED, IS OUR DOOR SITE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE PROGRAM. SO THIS WOULD BE FOR INSTANCE, THE SECOND TUESDAY OF MONTH.
IF YOU CALL US, WE MAIL YOU THIS KIT. INSIDE THIS KIT IS A FEW THINGS. I'M NOT GOING TO PULL THEM ALL OUT OF THIS BAG, BUT IT WILL HAVE INSTRUCTIONS WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DISPOSE OF, HOW TO DO IT. THERE'S LABELS IN THIS BAG. THERE'S A 30 GALLON CLEAR BAG THAT YOU WOULD PUT YOUR PAINT, YOUR PESTICIDES IN. YOU CAN DO USED ELECTRONICS AS WELL.
EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IS ON THIS. AND WE MAIL THAT COLLECTION KIT TO YOU. SO YOU JUST HAVE TO REACH OUT TO US TWO WEEKS BEFORE THAT COLLECTION DATE SO WE CAN SNAIL MAIL IT TO YOU AND THEN WE'LL PICK IT UP HALFWAY UP YOUR DRIVEWAY AWAY FROM THE TRASH SO
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IT DOES NOT GET CONTAMINATED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THIS PROGRAM IS EXCEPTIONAL. WE DO IT IN ABOUT 18 OF OUR CITIES OR SOME VERSION OF A HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE PROGRAM. AND WE ARE ACTUALLY THE LEADER IN ALL THE STATE OF TEXAS AND HHW COLLECTIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE A TCQ PERMITTED FACILITY BACK IN CALIFORNIA CROSSING, WHERE WE BRING THAT MATERIAL, WE CLEAN IT AND WE RECYCLE IT.SORRY, BOUNCE BACK A LITTLE BIT THERE. ANOTHER THING THAT MAKES CWD EXTREMELY UNIQUE, YOU KNOW, BEING HERE ONLY IN NORTH TEXAS IS OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP.
YOU CAN CALL ANY OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES, WHETHER IT'S THE CITY OF ALLEN THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE 1998, CITY OF WYLIE SINCE I BELIEVE IT WAS 2010 OR 05, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
BUT ONE OF THE WAYS WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP THOSE LONG STANDING PARTNERSHIPS IS OUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE NOT JUST A HAULER, WE ARE AN ARM, AN EXTENSION OF THE CITY. THEY DON'T SEE A CWD GARBAGE TRUCK AND THINK OF JASON RAMER, THEY THINK OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND THE SERVICES THAT YOU GUYS SELECTED TO BE PROVIDED FOR THEM. SO OTHER THAN JUST PICKING UP TRASH AND RECYCLING, WE'RE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN NATIONAL NIGHTS OUT WHERE WE PROBABLY HAVE 40 OF THOSE EVENTS COMING UP IN THE. THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. BUT WE HAVE RECYCLED DEPOTS THAT WILL DELIVER, SET UP, TEAR DOWN AT NO COST TO YOU OR THE EVENT COORDINATOR. IN 2025, OUR PARTICIPATION IN COMMUNITIES ECLIPSED $450,000. THIS IS NOT MONETARY SUMS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY CONTRACT. IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, A SCHOLARSHIP THAT I HAVE TO DO FOR A CERTAIN CITY, BUT FOR THEIR CONTRACT. IT'S CHAMBER MEMBERSHIPS, IT'S CHAMBER SPONSORSHIPS, IT'S. IT'S ROTARY CLUBS. IT'S ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GO INTO A COMMUNITY. AND WE DON'T JUST CUT A CHECK. WE ACTUALLY GO AND PARTICIPATE.
ROBERT GOES TO MORE EVENTS THAN I'VE EVER KNOWN A HUMAN COULD HANDLE, AND THAT'S WHY HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR 30 YEARS. AND YOU CAN JUST ASK ANY OF THE CITIES IN THIS AREA THAT WE SERVICE.
THE ROBERTS ARE WHAT MAKES CWD THAT EXTENSION OF THE CITY.
IN ADDITION, A LOT OF OUR CITIES HAVE WON STATE, LOCAL, AND NATIONAL AWARDS.
THE CITY, CITY OF ALLEN HAS WON OVER THREE KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL GOVERNOR ACHIEVEMENTS, OVER $800,000 IN GRANTS. CITY OF WYLIE HAS WON NUMEROUS NATIONAL HAZARDOUS WASTE MANAGEMENT AWARDS, AS WELL AS LUCAS HAS WON KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL GOVERNOR ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AS WELL. AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALL THROUGH UNIQUE AND, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, REVOLUTIONARY RECYCLING EFFORTS THAT WE'VE KIND OF BROUGHT TO OUR COMMUNITIES. SO THAT WAS KIND OF QUICK. I WAS TOLD TO KEEP IT SHORT, SO WE GOT PLENTY OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS, AND FEEL FREE TO FIRE AWAY.
MR. PILGRIM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON BULK TRASH PICKUP. SO I'VE GOT ONE THING I REALLY LIKE ABOUT OUR CURRENT BULK TRASH PICKUP AND ONE THING THAT I MOSTLY DON'T LIKE, BUT IT'S INCONSISTENT. WHAT I LIKE IS THEY DON'T HOLD US TO A REALLY STRICT STANDARD ON VOLUME. AND I DO MY OWN YARD WORK. I SPEND MOST OF MY WEEK SITTING BEHIND A DESK. SO I LOVE GETTING OUT AND CUTTING DOWN TREES AND TRIMMING THEM AND BUSHES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND IT'S NOT UNUSUAL WHEN I HAVE A WEEKEND WHERE I PROBABLY HAVE 500 TREES IN MY BACKYARD. SO I'VE GOT A LOT OF TREE LIMB TRIMMING AND SOMETIMES JUST CUTTING THEM DOWN. I CUT DOWN SEVEN THIS WEEKEND, AND I USUALLY. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THEY'RE GONE.
BUT THE POINT IS, SOMETIMES I HAVE A LOT, AND IT LOOKS LIKE EVEN MORE THAN IT IS BECAUSE LIMBS ARE HARD TO COMPRESS UNLESS YOU JUST SAVE ALL THE TRUNK PIECES AND THROW THEM ON TOP.
BUT EVEN THEN, IT'S HARD TO COMPRESS TO HAVE IT TO A CONFINED AMOUNT. SO I'M WONDERING, HOW LENIENT ARE Y' ALL ON THE VOLUME TO PICK UP. AND I MAY GO TWO MONTHS AND NOT HAVE ANY. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN I'VE GOT A TON OUT THERE.
YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THE STIPULATION IS 10 CUBIC YARDS, WHICH IS KIND OF ABOUT 10 WASHING MACHINES.
THERE'S KIND OF DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, METRICS, OR I GUESS WHAT YOU COULD SAY DIMENSIONS.
BUT THE TRUTH IS, WE BUILT IN A CLAW OR BRUSH TRUCK. WE HAVE SIX OF THEM IN OUR FLEET WITH ENOUGH HOURS PER MONTH THAT WE KNOW IN SOME PERIODS OF THE YEAR IT'S PRETTY SLOW.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ALL OUT THERE. AND THEN OTHERS, WE MAY HAVE TO RUN TWO TRUCKS FIVE DAYS THAT WEEK.
BUT THE DRIVERS ARE NOT OUT THERE WITH TAPE MEASURES. I MEAN, THESE GUYS ARE OUT TO PICK UP TRASH AND BRUSH AND BULK. AND WHEN YOU HAVE THAT CLAW TRUCK, YOU KNOW, EACH SCOOP CAN BE 4 OR 5 CUBIC YARDS. SO IF YOU HAVE 15, WE'RE TALKING ONE EXTRA SCOOP THAT MIGHT TAKE THEM AN EXTRA 30 SECONDS. SO I WOULD SAY WE'RE NOT SUPER LENIENT NOW. IF IT'S SOMETHING WE SEE THERE'S 50 YARDS OUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S QUITE EXCESSIVE. IT MIGHT BE THAT WE WORK WITH THE CITY, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE PICKED UP 20 YARDS. YOU KNOW, WE CAN CONTACT THE RESIDENT AND OFFER A QUOTE TO PICK UP THE REST OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. BUT WITHOUT KIND OF SEEING THE SIZE OF THE PILE YOU'RE REFERRING TO, IT'S HARD TO COMMENT ON. BUT I CAN JUST TELL YOU WE'RE NOT GOING TO
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LEAVE TWO YARDS IF YOU'VE GOT 12 YARDS OUT THERE.AND MOST OF MINE AREN'T MASSIVE.
IN FACT, WHEN THEY'RE. THE HARDEST THING TO CONTROL IS WHEN BAD WEATHER COMES THROUGH.
THERE'S A LOT OF WEAK TREES IN THIS PART OF TOWN THAT LIMBS BREAK OFF OF. AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT AS MANY TREES AS I DO AND A BIG WIND COMES THROUGH, I CAN HAVE MASSIVE AMOUNTS JUST FROM THAT.
BUT THE OTHER THING, QUICKLY, BEFORE I FORGET ABOUT IT, IS THE THING THAT. SO THE THING I DID LIKE IS THAT THEY WOULD ALWAYS PICK IT UP NO MATTER HOW MUCH I PUT OUT THERE. USUALLY IT'S NOT EXCESSIVE, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN. A FEW TIMES IT'S BEEN A BIG PILE. THE THING THAT I DON'T LIKE IS THE INCONSISTENCY OF HOW GOOD A JOB THEY DO OF PICKING IT UP. AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE DRIVER AND THE CREW.
SOMETIMES THEY'LL EVEN GET OUT OF THEIR TRUCK AND THEY'LL GET EVERY LIMB OUT OF THE STREET.
OTHER TIMES, THEY NOT ONLY LEFT LIMBS THERE, THEY'VE LEFT, YOU KNOW, THREE INCH LOGS THAT SHOULD HAVE EASILY NOT BEEN OVERLOOKED.
AND I'M A STICKLER ABOUT THINGS AROUND MY HOUSE BEING CLEAN AND ORGANIZED AND WELL DONE. SO I END UP GOING AND PICKING UP ALL THAT MYSELF.
SO HOW GOOD ARE YOUR CREWS ON LEAVING A RELATIVELY CLEAN STREET WHEN THEY DO THE PICKUP? I WOULD SAY EXCEPTIONAL.
THE PLAN IS TO UTILIZE THE CITY OF SACHSE, WHICH WE'VE HAD NOW FOR SEVEN YEARS. THERE'S TWO DRIVERS THAT WORK THEIR BULK AND BRUSH. IT'S A KIND OF A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE, BUT THEY WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING TO COME HERE, YOU KNOW, EVERY THIRD WEEK OF THE MONTH. THEY'VE BEEN WITH US SIX, SEVEN YEARS, I BELIEVE. VERY CONSISTENT AND CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY OF SACHSE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF SERVICE WE PROVIDE IN THAT FRONT. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S A BIG COMPONENT OF BEING THE LARGEST PRIVATE COMPANY IN NORTH TEXAS IS YOU WILL HAVE MY CAR. AND IT'S JASON, THERE'S A PICTURE SATURDAY, I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PICKED UP ON FRIDAY AND THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS LEFT. CITY OF BOVILLA.
DEAN OBERG TEXTS ME ONCE A WEEK, JUST WE'RE BUDDIES AT THIS POINT. BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE. I MEAN, YOU HAVE THAT DIRECT LINE TO SOMEBODY THAT CAN MOVE HEAVEN AND EARTH TO MAKE A CHANGE TO ALLEVIATE THE CONCERNS OF YOURSELF OR THE COMMUNITY.
JASON, I WILL POINT OUT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT YOU'RE PROPOSING NOT ONLY THE 10 CUBIC YARDS BUT ALSO UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF BUNDLED. THAT IS CORRECT.
AND TYPICALLY WHEN YOU ALLOW LOOSE BRUSH LIKE IN THE 10 CUBIC YARDS, A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T WANT TO BUNDLE.
BUT THAT IS A VERY GOOD POINT, KENT. SO IF YOU ARE TAKING THE TIME YOU HAVE 20 YARDS OF BRUSH AND YOU BUNDLE THE LAST 10, WE CAN PICK UP AS MUCH, YOU KNOW, TWINE WRAPPED BUNDLE BRUSHES AS YOU CAN PUT OUT AS WELL.
WE'VE HAD BIG STORMS BEFORE AND WE'VE HAD TO CALL IN ADDITIONAL SERVICES. HOW DOES THAT WORK? WOULD YOU JUST BUILD A CITY FOR, FOR ADDITIONAL PICKUP? IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE MAY 2024 STORM? DID YOU GUYS GET HIT PRETTY HARD? YEAH, YEAH, WE WERE IN SACHSE FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS CLEANING THAT UP. SO WE DO AN EXCEPTIONAL STORM DISASTER DEBRIS RESPONSE. THERE'S A FIXED RATE PER HOUR AND COST PER TON. YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT STORM BLEW THROUGH, I WAS UP WITH MY KID AT 4AM BECAUSE OUR HOUSE WAS SHAKING.
AND 6AM THE CITY OF FORNEY CALLED ME AND WE HAD A TRUCK THERE WITHIN 24 HOURS PICKING UP BRAD BRUSH THAT SPECIFIC STORM, WHICH WAS VERY UNIQUE IN NATURE. I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING HIT PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE METROPLEX AT ONCE. WE ENDED UP SPENDING THREE MONTHS OVER 3,500 TRUCK HOURS, PICKED UP 72,000 CUBIC YARDS OF BRUSH IN A VARIETY OF CITIES, SACHSE BEING INCLUDED, FORNEY WERE HEAVILY HIT AND A LOT OF THOSE GOT FEMA MONEY BACK AS REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE OF THE REPORTING WE DID THROUGHOUT.
BUT THE TRUTH IS WE HAVE ABOUT, LET'S SEE, ABOUT 90 REAR LOAD AND ROLL OFF TRUCKS THAT ARE SITTING AT OUR FACILITY. SOME HAVE SATURDAY WORK, BUT LET'S JUST CALL IT 75 FOR THAT SAKE. THAT CAN COME OUT HERE ON A SATURDAY AND DO A CITY WIDE CLEANUP IF WE HAD TO.
BUT DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF GETTING ROLL OFF DUMPSTERS OUT HERE WE USE TRANSFER TRAILERS LIKE IN SACHSE TO LOAD UP A BIG TRAILER INSTEAD OF HAVING A CLAW TRUCK HOTSHOT AT THE LANDFILL ALL DAY.
BUT WE EVEN DID COLLECTIONS DURING THAT STORM IN CITIES THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTRACTS WITH OTHER PROVIDERS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT FELL BEHIND IN MANY OF THOSE CASES. WE HIRED A THIRD PARTY ON OUR DIME NOT TO DEAL WITH THE CITY TO ASSIST US IN THOSE COLLECTIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THAT WAS ALL OF THIS WAS CRITERIA THAT WAS REQUESTED IN ALL OF THE RFPS.
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE IS ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS I FREQUENTLY HEAR IS THEY LEAVE THE TRASH CONTAINERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET RATHER THAN PUTTING THEM BACK ON THE HOUSEHOLD PROPERTY. HOW GOOD ARE YOUR GUYS AT THAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S AN AUTOMATED SIDE LOAD COLLECTION AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF THESE KIND OF COUNTRYISH ROADS, IF YOU WILL. I MEAN OUR RULES ALWAYS TRY TO DROP IT EXACTLY WHERE THEY PICKED IT UP. SOMETIMES THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID IT FALLING INTO A BAR DITCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THEY TRY TO KIND OF KEEP IT ON THE EDGE. AND OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T CONTROL IF A CAR COMES BY.
BUT I WOULD ALLUDE TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS EARLIER POINT IF YOU'RE SEEING A CONCERN, WHETHER IT COMES FROM STAFF OR YOU ALL DIRECTLY SHARE THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN IMPROVE BECAUSE I CAN PULL, LIKE I SAID, VIDEO AND SEE WHAT HE DID ON THAT DAY AND DID HE DROP IT THERE OR DID IT, YOU KNOW, NO,
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IT WAS FINE. AND THEN A DUALLY CAME BY AND BLEW IT INTO THE DRIVEWAY.BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THAT'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND ACCESS TO LEADERSHIP THAT YOU ALL WILL HAVE.
SECOND QUESTION IS IF IN YOUR PROPOSAL YOU INDICATED THAT IN ORDER TO DO STORM PICKUP YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY DECLARATION, THAT CAN BE VERY PROBLEMATIC.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE EXACT VERBIAGE. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE HERE.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE WIND EVENTS, NOT NECESSARILY LIKE MAY 2024, WHEN IT WAS SO NOTICEABLE, BUT A BUNCH OF TREES FALL DOWN, IT ONLY HIT PARKER, AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, THAT'S PART OF MY BULK AND BRUSH.
USUALLY IT'S ME WORKING WITH STAFF SAYING, OKAY, YOU GUYS HAD A STORM COME THROUGH.
YOU HAVE OUR HOURLY RATES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE US. YOU CAN HIRE A STORM CHASER IF YOU WANT, BUT ONCE IT'S AGREED UPON, WE'LL GO COLLECT IT. WE REPORT ALL THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU, WHAT MAPS WE PICKED UP, THAT, THE TONNAGE, THE LANDFILL TICKETS, EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, PROVE THAT WE WERE PICKING THAT UP.
BUT ONE OF MY OBJECTIONS IS I'VE HAD TO DO AN EMERGENCY DECLARATION.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE OVERNIGHT. IT CAN TAKE UP TO A WEEK, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY, NO INTERNET, AND WE MAY BE WANTING PICKUP.
IN THE MEANTIME, I WANT TO KNOW, ARE Y' ALL WILLING TO DO THE PICKUP PRIOR TO A DECLARATION BEING PUBLISHED? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE VERNACULAR OF DECLARATION WAS MORE, IF YOU'RE SAYING NO, I'VE GOT BRUSH PICKUP THAT'S PART OF THAT PROGRAM. IN FACT, IT'S ALL GENERATED FROM A STORM. SO IF THAT MAKES SENSE, NO OFFICIAL DECLARATION HAS TO BE MADE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND, COUNCIL, I WILL JUST POINT OUT THAT THE WAY WE'VE BEEN TREATING THOSE DISASTER EVENTS IN THE PAST IS GRANT HAS IT SPLIT INTO A SOLID WASTE FUND, AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT A CUSTOMER PAYS FOR THEIR SOLID WASTE SERVICES FUNDED THAT.
WHAT WAS DRAINING THAT WAS THE 2024 STORM EVENT, PLUS THE COST OF THE HHW PROGRAM THAT WAS UNDERUTILIZED.
SO THE WAY WE RESTRUCTURED THROUGH THIS RFP AND PROPOSED CONTRACT IS THERE WOULD BE A FRANCHISE FEE THAT WOULD BE PAID BY THE VENDOR TO THE CITY, AND THAT WOULD HELP BUFFER AND EXPAND THAT FUND. SO WHEN AN EVENT DOES COME THROUGH, THE CITY IS POISED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE DISASTER RELIEF PICKUP AT THAT AGREED UPON RATE.
MR. BARRON, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JASON. I'M JUST.
AT SOME POINT, ARE WE GOING TO GET TO SEE HOW YOU ALL RANK THE VARIOUS VENDORS AND WHAT THE RATES LOOK LIKE? AND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME DECISIONS TO BE MADE ABOUT HOW OFTEN WE'RE PICKING UP AND HOW MANY CARDS AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF THE OLD HAZARDOUS WASTE PROGRAM VERSUS THIS ONE AND SO ON. IS THAT GOING TO BE AT OUR NEXT MEETING? ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR. AND CHECK YOUR INBOX WHEN YOU GET HOME TONIGHT, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT SOME OF THIS INFORMATION. I GOT A LINK TO ALL THE PROPOSALS AS WELL AS THE TABULATION SHEET SO YOU CAN GET PRIMED FOR OUR DISCUSSION ON THE 18TH.
IN HIS DEFENSE, HE GOT PULLED OFF OF THIS TO DO OTHER STUFF, AND HE DIDN'T GET BACK TO IT TIMELY TO GET IT BEFORE THIS MEETING. SO IT'S NOT KENT'S FAULT. CITY HAS A LOT OF BUSINESS SOMETIMES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION. IS MICAH THE TRUCK? WHAT'S THAT? IS MICAH THE TRUCK ON THE LOWER LEFT? HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MICAH.
I THINK MICAH'S THE. THE LITTLE BOY THAT WE BROUGHT A TRUCK TO.
I WAS NOT READY FOR THAT QUESTION.
I'M LIKE, WAIT, MICAH, THE TRUCK, THE LITTLE BOY.
THANK YOU. OKAY, AT THIS TIME, WE'LL ASK KENT.
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU NEED? NOTHING FOR.
THE FINALISTS TO YOU IN ADVANCE OF BR. BRING IN A PROPOSED CONTRACT.
OKAY. AND I BELIEVE YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO ASK COUNCIL IF THEY WISH TO INTERVIEW ANYONE ELSE OR HOW THEY WANTED THAT.
YES, I DID MENTION THAT. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER THINGS YOU NEED FROM STAFF TO PREPARE FOR THAT 18TH MEETING, I'M STILL PLANNING ON DOING REFERENCE CHECKS FOR CWD. THAT IS A PROCESS THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN COMPLETED. I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THOSE US.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK, AND I TRUST THAT THEY'VE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO THIS AND APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION.
ACTUALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL
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OUT KENT AND ROBIN FOR REALLY, REALLY PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND HAVING THE BACK OF HOUSE UNDERSTANDING THIS WAS A VERY THOROUGH PROCESS.YEAH. I HAVE THROUGH CONTRACTS FOR WASTE, BULK TRASH MANY TIMES, AND THIS IS THE MOST COMPLETE AND THOROUGH PROCESS AND THE MOST OBJECTIVE I THINK WE'VE EVER HAD. KUDOS TO YOU.
[6. RECEIVE A PRESENTATION, CONSIDER, DISCUSS, AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON DESIGN AND FUNDING OF WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE CHAPARRAL WATER TOWER, LUCAS ROAD LIFT STATION RENOVATION, AND PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. ]
REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.OKAY. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION, CONSIDER, DISCUSS, AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON DESIGN AND FUNDING OF WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE CHAPARRAL WATER TOWER, LUCAS ROAD LIFT STATION RENOVATION, AND PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.
OKAY, ARE YOU LEADING US OFF OR IS BUDDY? I CAN KICK THINGS OFF. TEE IT UP. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL LEAVE IT UP TO MR. PILGRIM TO DISCUSS. OKAY, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND HERE. THIS IS A FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION TO SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN HAVING ABOUT NEW WATER TOWER PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES.
AND MOST RECENTLY AN INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT FOR OUR SANITARY SEWER THAT NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL OVERHAUL. NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS NECESSARILY BEEN ON OUR CAPITAL PLANNING HORIZON. SO WE'VE REVIEWED A OF LOT LONG RANGE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH A SINGLE CO TO FUND THREE MAJOR PROJECTS.
SO THIS IS A STRATEGIC FINANCING STRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN PRETTY WELL VETTED AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THE MOST FAVORABLE INTEREST STRUCTURE OUTSIDE OF A GENERAL BOND OBLIGATION.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THE GENERAL FUND AND THE PROPRIETARY FUND REVENUES TO SUPPORT LONG TERM CAPITAL ASSETS. TOTAL ESTIMATED PROJECT COSTS FOR THIS CO WOULD BE ABOUT $14.85 MILLION. WE'RE PLANNING ON OFFSETTING THAT WITH SOME AMOUNT OF CASH.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT $5 MILLION IN PRIOR YEAR STRATEGIC SAVINGS.
THAT'S A KUDOS TO CITY COUNCIL AND THIS COMMUNITY FOR YOUR FORESIGHT ON THAT.
THIS PACKAGE INCLUDES ABOUT $9 MILLION OF FINANCING. THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 9 MILLION FOR A WATER TOWER, 5 MILLION FOR WATER FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, AND $850,000 FOR LUCAS ROAD LIFT STATION OVERHAUL. SO WE HAVE BUILT IN SOME CONTINGENCIES HERE. IF YOU'LL NOTICE FROM OUR LAST CONVERSATION, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED AN UPDATE IN THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY IN ABOUT A YEAR. SO THAT WILL NEED TO BE REVISED. AND I JUST POINT OUT HERE THAT IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WE NEED TO GET WITH OUR ENGINEERING FIRM, OUR ARCHITECTURAL TEAM, COST ESTIMATORS, FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO NARROW THIS DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT. BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT CONTINGENCY IN THERE. I WILL POINT OUT THAT THE GRANT FOR THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AS OF JULY 29TH. THIS PROPOSED CO ISSUANCE WOULD INTENTIONALLY LINE UP WITH THOSE GRANT AWARD NOTIFICATIONS. SO SHOULD WE RECEIVE FUNDING FOR THE WATER TOWER AGAIN, WHICH IS UP TO $10 MILLION, THEN WE COULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF FINANCING THAT WE WOULD BE PURSUING. THESE PROJECTS ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
SO WE'VE GOT THE NEW WATER TOWER AND OF COURSE THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY THAT WAS ACCOUNTED FOR FUTURE RATE PLANNING. I WILL JUST POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE PLANS TO DO A NEW WATER WASTEWATER RATE STUDY TOWARDS THE END OF 15 FISCAL YEAR 2627. SO ANY OF THESE CAPITAL COSTS COULD BE ROPED INTO THAT RATE STUDY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE LONG TERM SYSTEMS SUSTAINABILITY.
AND THEN I WILL JUST POINT OUT THAT THESE ARE GENERATIONAL ASSETS. AND SO OUR PHILOSOPHY HERE HAS BEEN USING DEBT FINANCING TO ENSURE THAT FUTURE SYSTEM USERS, NOT JUST TODAY'S TAXPAYERS AND RATEPAYERS, CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE COST OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RELY ON OVER 40 TO 50 YEARS, WHICH THE COMPONENTS WILL HAVE A LIFESPAN OF.
HERE'S AN EXAMPLE TIMELINE OF WHAT THIS CO ENTAILS. JUST TO KIND OF PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS WAS PROVIDED BY OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR. SO IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR BOND COUNCIL TO PREPARE THE NOTICE OF INTENT AND CITY COUNCIL WOULD MAKE A MOTION ON THAT NOTICE OF INTENT ORDINANCE ON SEPTEMBER 29TH. THEN THERE WOULD BE SOME INTERNAL STAFF WORK. WE'D BE SUBMITTING OUR PUBLICATIONS TO THE NEWSPAPER. SOMEWHERE IN THERE WE WOULD GET OUR BOND RATING. THEN WE WOULD HAVE A FINAL ISSUANCE DETERMINATION WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE CREDIT WORTHY AND WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE BOND ISSUANCE. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT KIND OF LEADS UP UNTIL THE MARK WHERE COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.
FUNDS WOULD BE DELIVERED THAT VERY NEXT MONTH. SO THEY'RE
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PRETTY QUICK. THE FIRST DEBT PAYMENT, HOWEVER, WOULD NOT BE DUE UNTIL 2028.SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO PROCEED WITH ISSUING THE SINGLE CO FOR THE WATER TOWER PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AND LUCAS ROAD LIFT STATION RENOVATION AND ALSO TO PROCEED WITH BID ON THE WATER TOWER PROJECT USING IMPACT FEE CASH FOR INITIAL BID RELATED COSTS UNTIL FINANCING OR GRANT FUNDING IS MADE AVAILABLE.
SERIOUSLY, YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF RECAPPING THIS. AND I'LL GIVE CREDIT TO COUNCIL MEMBER SHARP, WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHARP WAS ON IT, OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR KENT MANTON WAS ON IT, AND GRANT SAVAGE WAS ON IT. WE ALSO INTERVIEWED OUR BOND COUNSEL ON THIS AND GOT THEIR ADVICE AS WELL. AND JUST TO RECAP JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HE SAID FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT, THERE ARE REALLY FOUR DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN FINANCE THESE PROJECTS.
WE CAN DO IT OUT OF CASH, WE CAN DO IT WITH A REVENUE BOND, WE CAN DO IT WITH A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, OR WE COULD DO IT WITH A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION. AND OUT OF ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS, THE CO IS BY FAR THE BEST. IT'S GOING TO GIVE US THE BEST INTEREST RATE.
AND WE'RE DOING THIS COMBINATION OF SOME CASH AND SOME CO. SO AS HE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO USE ABOUT $5 MILLION OF EXISTING CASH. WE DON'T WANT TO PAY ALL CASH FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE THE WATER TOWER, FOR EXAMPLE, IS A 75 YEAR ASSET. SO IF WE WERE TO CHOOSE TO PAY ALL CASH FOR THAT, THAT WOULD MEAN THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WHICH ALLOWED US TO BUILD UP THIS BALANCE OF $5 MILLION THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY. AND IF WE SCRAPE TOGETHER, WE'VE GOT MORE THAN THAT IN THE BANK, WE'VE GOT MORE CASH IN THE BANK, WE'VE GOT 16 MILLION CASH IN THE BANK.
BUT ALL OF THAT WAS PAID BY CITIZENS WHO EITHER LIVE HERE NOW OR HAVE LIVED HERE OVER THE LAST FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS. WE WOULD BE HAVING CITIZENS THAT LIVED HERE IN THE PAST OR LIVE HERE NOW, PAYING FOR AN ASSET THAT'S GOING TO BE USED BY CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE FOR THE NEXT 75 YEARS, WHICH SOME OF US WILL BE HERE FOR A PART OF THAT TIME, BUT NOT MANY OF US WILL BE HERE FOR ALL OF THAT TIME. SO IT MAKES SENSE FOR LONG TERM CAPITAL ASSETS TO BOND FINANCE IT RATHER THAN PAY FOR IT OUT OF CASH. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE THESE THREE PROJECTS THAT ARE HITTING NEAR SIMULTANEOUSLY. AND AS HE SAID, WE. I WOULD SAY THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO AUTHORIZE FOR THE BOND IS PROBABLY MORE THAN WE PLAN TO SPEND.
BUT WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO AUTHORIZE LESS THAN WE NEED BECAUSE WE CAN AUTHORIZE ALL OF THAT AND ONLY SELL WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED FOR THIS. SO WE HOPE THAT THE WATER TOWER IS GOING TO COME IN LESS THAN $8 MILLION. WE HOPE THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN $5 MILLION.
AND IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THE LIFT STATION REPAIR COMES IN AT LESS THAN 850,000.
BUT WE PUT IN THOSE AMOUNTS AS THE HIGH SIDE OF EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS SO THAT WE COME TO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO POTENTIALLY FINANCE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN. IT'S GOOD BUNDLING ALL THESE TOGETHER. WE COULD DO THREE SEPARATE COS FOR EACH OF THESE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE HIGHER ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSE BY DOING THAT. WE WOULDN'T GET AS GOOD OF AN INTEREST RATE ON THESE SMALLER BONDS AS WE WOULD ON A LARGER ONE. AND THERE'S JUST REALLY NO ADVANTAGE TO IT WHATSOEVER. WE DON'T NEED A PUBLIC VOTE ON THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN AUTHORIZE. AND THE BEST THING FOR US TO DO, AS WE SAID THERE IN THE END, IS TO GO AHEAD AND AUTHORIZE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS SO THAT WE IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER START TAKING THE STEPS TO AUTHORIZE THAT WHILE WE'RE SIMULTANEOUSLY GOING DOWN THE TRACK TO TRY TO GET THE GRANT FOR THE WATER TOWER. IF WE CAN GET THE, THE GRANT FOR THE WATER TOWER, THAT'S WONDERFUL. IT'S POTENTIALLY. KENT'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND HE'S DONE SOME STELLAR WORK ON IT. I DON'T THINK HE COULD DO A BETTER JOB APPLYING FOR THE GRANT THAN WHAT KENT'S BEEN DOING. IT'S JUST WHETHER OR NOT PARKER IS GOING TO QUALIFY. HAVING A LITERAL SHOVEL READY PROJECT IS A BIG QUALIFIER AND THAT'S IN OUR ADVANTAGE. HAVING A CITY THAT HAS ABOVE AVERAGE INCOMES HURTS US A LOT, LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF QUALIFYING FOR THIS. IT'S IRONIC THAT AS FINANCIALLY STRONG AS OUR CITY IS, AND WE'RE QUITE STRONG COMPARED TO A LOT OF CITIES OUT THERE, THE STRONGER YOU ARE, THE MORE THAT HURTS YOU AND BEING ABLE TO GET THESE GRANTS. SO THE GRANTS GO TO THE ONES THAT ARE STRUGGLING THE MOST.
IS THE GRANT AN ALL OR NOTHING? COULD WE BE PARTIALLY AWARDED OR IS THAT A FULLY FUNDING GRANT? A FULLY FUNDED GRANT? NO, PARTIAL.
JUST LOOKING AT THIS TIMELINE, DO WE KNOW APPROXIMATELY WHEN THEY'LL MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT? WELL, IT'S A STATE AGENCY SO YOU KNOW, JOKES ON THE CITY, JOKES ON THE STATE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT TIMELINE.
AGAIN, THIS IS A SINGLE FUNDING GRANT AND THEY ARE TRYING TO GET MONEY INTO THE SYSTEMS
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AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. SO THEIR INTENTION IS TO MAKE THOSE AWARDS IN LATE FALL OF THIS YEAR. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OUR BOND COUNCIL THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DELAY THAT ISSUANCE FUNDING JUST A LITTLE BIT IF NEED BE. IF WE NEED SOME MORE TIME TO HEAR BACK FROM TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD, CAN WE USE THE GRANT MONEY TO PAY BACK SOME OF THE BOND? NO, MA'AM.THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH BOND ADVISOR ON THAT AS WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD DO THAT. HE SAID THE ONLY WAY WE COULD REALLY DO THAT IS IF WE MAKE THE BONDS CALLABLE.
AND IF WE MAKE THEM CALLABLE, WE'RE GOING TO PAY A HIGHER INTEREST RATE FOR THEM. THE OTHER WAY IS TO SEPARATE THAT OUT AND DO A COMPLETELY SEPARATE BOND FOR THE WATER TOWER AND SPECIFICALLY MAKE IT CALLABLE.
BUT THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT'S BOTH CALLABLE AND A SEPARATE BOND.
SO I THINK THIS IS OUR BEST OVERALL PLAN. THE LIFT STATION IS A RELATIVELY NEW NEED. OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR GARY BACHADO BROUGHT THAT TO US A WHILE BACK. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS URGENT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO DO NEXT WEEK, BUT IT'S A REPAIR THAT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED.
FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW.
WE DO HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE CITY OF PARKER THAT IS ON SEWER SERVICE, ALTHOUGH THE MAJORITY OF IT'S NOT. AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT SMALL AMOUNT OF THE CITY'S LIFT STATION ON THAT SEWER IS NEEDING AN $800,000 REPAIR THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO. PROBABLY SOMETIMES WITHIN YOU MIGHT COULD PUSH IT OFF A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.
GARY, WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT'S GETTING QUESTIONABLE, BUT THAT'S WHY THE TIMING FITS WITHIN THIS.
OKAY. THE LIFT STATION WAS NEW TO ME TODAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT LIFT STATION REPAIR IS BEING FUNDED BY THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE ON SEWER AND NOT THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SEPTIC. IS THAT BUILT INTO OUR SEWER RATES? SO THE WAY THE CO SET UP IS IT COULD POTENTIALLY PULL FROM GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS TAX SUPPORTED, AND IT ALSO COULD BE PULLED FROM OUR PROPRIETARY FUND, WHICH IS WATER AND WASTE WASTEWATER SUPPORTED. I THINK GRANT CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO OUR ABILITY TO PIGEONHOLE THIS BETTER.
AS KEN MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S GOING TO BE A WATER WASTEWATER STUDY THAT'S DONE AFTER THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AND OBVIOUSLY, IF THIS IS BUILT IN THERE, WE COULD HAVE WASTEWATER RATES THAT REFLECT THIS DEBT. SO, YES, THEY COULD HELP OFFSET IT.
IF I DON'T GET TOO FAR OFF WHAT OUR TOPIC IS THAT WE'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT, AND I'M SURE KATHRYN WILL SLAP MY HAND IF I DO.
I THINK IT'S STILL PART OF TALKING ABOUT FINANCING IT. SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO TIE THE RATES SPECIFICALLY TO THE BOND, BUT WE CAN'T, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO SPEND $800,000 ON A LIFT STATION THAT SERVES A VERY SMALL PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE COULD RAISE THOSE RATES OVER TIME TO REIMBURSE THE GENERAL FUND FOR. BECAUSE SOME OF THESE MONIES ARE COMING OUT OF THE.
I THINK YOU MEAN THE PROPRIETARY FUND.
SO I THINK, STAFF, LET'S PROCEED WITH ISSUING A SINGLE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION COVERING THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, WATER TOWER AND LUCAS FOR LIFT STATION RENOVATION, AND PROCEED TO BID THE WATER TOWER PROJECT AS PRESENTED.
SO THIS IS NOT POSTED AS AN ACTION ITEM TONIGHT.
IF EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, WE WILL RUN TO THE RACES AND GET YOU YOUR NEXT STEPS AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING.
IS THAT WHAT EVERYBODY IS AGREEABLE TO DOING? YES.
OKAY, THEN, KIP, YOU HAVE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS.
[7. RECEIVE A REPORT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE CITY’S IMPLENTATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE NEW NOISE ORDINANCE. ]
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW, NEXT WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, RECEIVE A REPORT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE CITY'S IMPLEMENTATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE NEW NOISE ORDINANCE.
MS. BURDICK. SGT. BURDICK, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT. THANK YOU, MR. KERCKHOFF, FOR BEING HERE.
LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, WE WERE GOING TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT SOME STATISTICS, SOME RESULTS OF THE NEW IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE. SO WE SET OUT TO MEASURE. WE RECENTLY ADOPTED THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A TYPO ON THERE. IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE. IT'S ACTUALLY THE WRONG ONE. SO THE NIGHTTIME IS GOING TO BE 75 AND THE DAYTIME IS GOING TO BE 58 DBA. AND OF COURSE WE ALSO HAVE THE REASONABLE PERSON STANDARD. SO DURING THE REPORTING PERIOD, WE HAD 26 TOTAL NOISE
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COMPLAINTS. WE HAD 19 NOISE INCIDENTS. 20 OF THE COMPLAINTS WERE NOISE RELATED. SO THERE WAS ACTUALLY ONLY. IT ACTUALLY ENDED UP COMING OUT TO LIKE 14 TOTAL INCIDENTS WHERE IT WAS MUSIC RELATED NOISE. WE HAD MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS ON LIKE TWO INCIDENTS. AND THEN WHENEVER THEY USED THE NOISE METERS, THE TWO INCIDENTS, THEY CAME DOWN BELOW THE DVA OF 75. OUT OF THE 26 COMPLAINTS, FOUR OF THEM WERE RESOLVED WITH JUST A WARNING. THE OTHER 22 COMPLAINTS RESOLVED BEFORE THEY EVEN GOT THERE. SO THERE WAS NO NOISE OR WAS UNFOUNDED. AGAIN, WHEN THE OFFICER STEPPED IN, IT WAS GOING TO BE LIGHT ENFORCEMENT WARNINGS. THERE WAS NO CITATIONS ISSUED DURING THAT TIME FRAME. ANY QUESTIONS OR DIRECTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION? WE HAD THE PUBLIC COMMENTS EARLIER AND AS I WAS COUNTING, THERE WERE AT LEAST THREE. SO IN THIS NUMBER, THAT OF 22, THREE OF THOSE WERE WITHIN THAT EVENT ITSELF. HAD FOUR COMPLAINTS FROM DISPATCH.I ACTUALLY HAVE THE LOG. WE ACTUALLY LOOKED INTO IT AND WE ACTUALLY DID SOME DEALS DILIGENCE WITH IT. SO WE WERE AWARE OF IT. WE ACTUALLY DID LOOK INTO IT. SO.
RIGHT. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT WASN'T. THERE WERE LIKE FOUR INCIDENTS AND MULTIPLE CALLS OR A COUPLE OF THOSE.
WE HAD ONE INCIDENT WHERE IT WAS TWO CALLS AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER ONE THAT HAD FOUR.
SO ON THE INCIDENT THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE SPEAKING OF, WE HAD A LITTLE DEBRIEFING AFTER IT HAPPENED BECAUSE I PERSONALLY RECEIVED NUMEROUS CALLS. MR. BARON RECEIVED NUMEROUS CALLS. THE MAYOR RECEIVED NUMEROUS CALLS. SO NOT EVERYONE WENT THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY WERE. THE CALLS WERE POURING IN AND THERE WERE SOME VERY ANGRY PEOPLE. SO AFTER OUR DEBRIEFING, WE LEARNED THAT THE OFFICERS DID GO OUT AND TAKE READINGS AND THAT THE READINGS WERE AT 75 AT ONE POINT.
SO THEY WERE WITHIN OUR GUIDELINES. BUT OBVIOUSLY IF WE GET PEOPLE CALLING FROM TWO NEIGHBORHOODS AWAY THAT THEIR HOUSES ARE SHAKING, THAT THE 75 DECIBELS IS TOO HIGH. THE POLICE FELT THEY COULDN'T. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO WRITE A TICKET AT THAT TIME BECAUSE IT WAS WITHIN OUR. THEY COULD HAVE USED DISCRETION, BUT THEY WANTED THE FIRST TIME TO TRY AND LEARN THESE DECIBELS AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MEASUREMENTS WERE OKAY. AND IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, IF WE'RE GETTING THIS MANY CALLS, THAT DECIBEL LEVEL IS TOO HIGH. SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE REVISIT THAT AND LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.
I ALSO HEARD ISSUES FROM THE PEOPLE IN THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY INDICATED, AND I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT, THEY INDICATED THAT THE OFFICERS DID NOT SEEM TO KNOW HOW TO WORK THE MEASURING TOOLS.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO MEASURE DECIBELS. THEY JUST SET THEIR CARD AND PLAYED WITH IT. AND THAT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING TO THE RESIDENTS.
IS THERE A TRAINING ISSUE OR IS THERE. IS THERE AN ISSUE WITH HOW WE DO THE MEASUREMENTS? ALL THE OFFICERS ARE TRAINED ON HOW TO USE THE DECIBEL METER.
THEY'RE PRETTY EASY. BASICALLY SET UP FOR DBA AND YOU HIT A BUTTON, YOU TAKE ONE READING WITHOUT LIKE THERE'S A BUFFER ON IT.
YOU DO IT WITHOUT THE BUFFER AND YOU DO IT WITH A BUFFER. SO THEY ARE TRAINED. SO MAYBE THE OFFICER MADE IT APPEAR THAT WAY. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE SITUATION.
YEAH, YOU KNOW, I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT I WAS TOLD, SO I DON'T KNOW. I JUST GO AHEAD.
WHAT'S YOUR KIND OF EXPLANATION FOR HOW THE DECIBEL LEVELS ENDED UP BEING BELOW WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE GOING TO BE AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL TO INDICATE IT'S A NOISE ORDINANCE VIOLATION, YET THEY WERE BELOW THAT.
BUT THE COMPLAINTS WERE FOR MANY PEOPLE, CLEAR, LOUD. I MEAN, IS IT BASE VERSUS TREBLE? BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT BASE TRAVELS FURTHER. HANG ON, BILL.
I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU, BUT I WANT TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY FIRST ABOUT HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THOSE TWO THINGS.
THIS SERIOUS COMPLAINT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR VIOLATION, BUT IT DIDN'T SURPASS THE 75 DECIBEL LEVEL.
I BELIEVE SOME OF IT'S GOING TO BE THE LOCATION. SO MOSTLY ON OFFICER GOING TO TAKE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. THIS WAS
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A PARTY BEHIND THE HOUSE. SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE OTHER RESIDENTS ON THE BACKSIDE WERE HEARING.SO THAT COULD AFFECT. AFFECT THE NOISE PRETTY MUCH IT'S GOING TO BE WHERE YOU TAKE THE READING FROM.
LIKE WHEN WE HAD SOUTH FORK, WE TOOK MULTIPLE READINGS AROUND SOUTH FORK AT DIFFERENT AREAS. SO WE MAY GET ONE READING OVER HERE AND WE WOULDN'T GET THE SAME READING OVER HERE. COULD BE THAT EFFECT ALSO. I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A REASONABLE STANDARD, I THINK WHEN AN OFFICER IS DOING THAT, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IS FOR SURE THIS HAPPENED. THEY CAN PROVE IT. THEY CAN PROVE IT IN COURT BECAUSE IT'S THERE.
BASICALLY. IT'S THEIR OPINION NOW WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE A NOISE METER, THE NOISE METER SAYS 78 YOUR THREE DEPTHS ABOVE AND YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
SO MOST OFFICERS ARE GOING TO LOOK TOWARDS THE REASON, LIKE HAVING MORE FACTS FOR THE REASONABLE STANDARD.
AND PART OF THAT COULD BE MULTIPLE CALLS COMING IN.
BUT YOU ALSO WANT THE TIME OF DAY. THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT REASONABLE STANDARD, WHICH WOULD BE EASY AT NIGHT, ESPECIALLY THE 58 DBA, BECAUSE EASILY YOU COULD GO OUT THERE AND IF THAT BAND WAS PLAYING AT NIGHT, THE OFFICER WOULD HAVE TAKEN ENFORCEMENT ACTION IMMEDIATELY.
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS PARTY WAS IT WENT ON FOR MORE THAN FIVE HOURS. SO THEY STARTED AT 3 O' CLOCK AND IT WENT TILL 10 OR 11. SO IT WAS THEIR. THEY WERE WARMING UP AND DOING THEIR MIC CHECKS AND THINGS, SOUND CHECKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO IT STARTED AT 3 AND WENT TO 11. SO THAT IS A LONG TIME FOR THAT NOISE TO BE GOING. AND MOST OF THE CALLS CAME FROM THE PARTY WAS IN THE BACKYARD, BUT THE CALLS CAME FROM PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FRONT YARD. SO IT WAS ALL THESE OTHER HOUSES IN THE WAY AND IT STILL WAS THAT LOUD THAT TWO NEIGHBORHOODS AWAY.
SO I GUESS THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS IS WHEN WE WERE CONTEMPLATING THIS NOISE ORDINANCE, ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IT WAS THAT IT WAS TOO STRICT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE SIGHTING EVERYBODY EVERY TIME THEY MADE ANY NOISE THAT YOU COULD HEAR NEXT DOOR, NO MATTER WHAT THE NOISE WAS.
IF ANYTHING, THIS SAYS WE DIDN'T GO THAT FAR BY ANY MEANS.
I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, THOUGH.
LET ME GIVE YOU MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER, BUDDY. MY ANSWER WAS THE REASON THAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THE COMMITTEE CAME WITH A CERTAIN DECIBEL RECORD RECOMMENDATION.
PART OF COUNCIL VOTED TO PUT THAT ASIDE AND STAY WITH THE EXISTING 75 DECIBELS.
THAT'S MY ANSWER TO WHY WE HAVE THIS DISCREPANCY.
I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE HIS QUESTION WASN'T THE 75. IT WAS WHY WHERE IS THE 75? IS IT THE DECIBEL? I MEAN, IS IT THE BASE OR THE TROUBLE? OR SHOULD WE USE.
YOU'RE SAYING IF IT HAD BEEN 68, WHICH IS WHAT Y' ALL RECOMMENDED, ORIG WHAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED ORIGINALLY, THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A VIOLATION AT 68.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION HE ASKED. HE QUESTIONED WHY THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY IN THE 75 NOT HITTING LIKE WHERE.
BECAUSE YOU ANSWERED WHERE YOU'RE STANDING AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
OR COULD IT BE BASED BECAUSE IT TRAVELS FURTHER OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 75 NUMBER. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHETHER IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A VIOLATION OR NOT PER OUR ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT WE SAID. BUT THE 75, EVEN IF IT WAS 68, AND YOU'D HAVE STILL THE SAME QUESTION. WELL, WHERE YOU'RE STANDING, IS IT BASE OR TRUST? OKAY.
WE TOOK THIS QUESTION COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY. I TOOK IT TO MEAN WHY WERE PEOPLE COMPLAINING SEVERELY ABOUT IT, BUT IT WASN'T A VIOLATION OF 75. AND SO ANYWAY, SO THAT'S MY OPINION IS THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT, I THINK IT SHOWED THAT THE 75 NUMBER WAS TOO HIGH. AND IF WE GO BACK TO THE CHART THAT WE HAD OF DIFFERENT CITIES, WE'RE AT THE HIGHEST AT 75.
SO HERE'S A WAY TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE RIGHT ON THAT.
YOU MAY BE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT DECIBEL LEVEL IT DID REGISTER? THE ONE TIME WAS AROUND 75.
AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAD TURN IT DOWN AND THEY CAME AROUND 60.
65 FROM A RECALL. I'D HAVE TO GO PULL MY. THE RECORDS ON.
DO YOU HAVE THAT? YOU HAVE THAT WRITTEN DOWN OR RECORDED ANYWHERE? IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CALL OFFICERS NOTES.
OKAY. SO WHEN THEY TAKE READINGS, WE ASK THEM TO PUT THEM IN THE NOTES. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GO INTO THE ACTUAL CALL FOR SERVICE AND ACTUALLY LOOK
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AT DECIBEL LEVELS. THEY HAVE IT. IF THEY TOOK THE. IF THEY TOOK READINGS AND WHAT THE DECIBEL LEVELS ARE.GOOD. THIS ISN'T A GOTCHA QUESTION AT ALL, BUT IF YOU HAVE THAT, THAT WOULD HELP US ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT BILLY'S POSING IS IF WE HAD HAD 68 WOULD HAVE BEEN A VIOLATION OF 68. OR WAS IT? DID YOU REGISTER 60 AND 60 WAS STILL OBNOXIOUS? OBNOXIOUS, YEAH. SO I THINK THAT RAISES AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT WE. WHEN YOU GET ONE OF THOSE CALLS AND YOU DO ACTUALLY GET OUT THE DECIBEL METER AND MEASURE IT, MAKE SURE YOU'RE RECORDING WHAT IT IS. BECAUSE LEARNING FROM THOSE KINDS OF TRANSACTIONS ARE THE ONLY WAY WE'LL ULTIMATELY KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE SET IT AT THE RIGHT LEVEL OR WHETHER WE'VE SET IT TOO HIGH OR TOO LOW.
SO MY QUESTION. THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS NOW FOR FIVE MONTHS, AND THIS FOUR REQUESTS ARE LOWER AMPLIFIED MUSIC WAS THAT THE SAME INCIDENT? NO, THERE WERE FOUR DIFFERENT.
WE'RE HAVING THIS NOW. WERE THESE THE SAME PEOPLE? BECAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP WAS THAT WE WERE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH A PARTICULAR HOMEOWNER THAT WAS A PROBLEM.
THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT. THEY'RE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, EXCLUDING THE MCCURRY CREEK INCIDENT, WERE THERE ANY OTHER INCIDENTS WHERE YOU ALL SAID TURN IT DOWN AND THEN THEY TURNED IT DOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT AND BROUGHT IT BACK UP AGAIN? NO. OKAY.
BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? DO YOU THINK THE NOISE ORDINANCE NEEDS REVISION? DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT? HOW DO WE MAKE IT WORK BETTER? SO I THINK IF WE LOWER THE DECIBEL RATING A LITTLE BIT MORE, IT HELPS WITH A REASONABLE PERSON STANDARD. MY OFFICER, 1B, IS WORRIED ABOUT WRITING A TICKET FOR THAT. SIX TO EIGHT DECIBELS WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER. AND IF THEY DID WANT TO BRING IN, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM AN OFFICER STANDPOINT, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION, BUT THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVE IT. SO A DECIBEL READING THAT PROVES IT? EITHER THAT OR THEY HAVE TO PROVE IT WITH KNOWN FACTS AND THEY HAVE TO BUILD A CASE OUT. SO THE DECIMAL METER CAN WORK REALLY WELL. BUT IF YOU HAVE 75 DECIBELS, I THINK YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN WHAT WOULD BE PERCEIVED AS REASONABLE. IT KIND OF. KIND OF RAISE A REASONABLE STANDARD UP A LITTLE BIT.
OKAY. I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING A FURTHER CONVERSATION ON THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE SAID WE'D DO IS WE SAID WE WOULD TRY IT AND WE WOULD HEAR BACK.
AND ARE WE IN AGREEMENT THAT 75 IS TOO TALL, IS TOO LOUD AT THIS POINT? I THINK PERHAPS WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE THE NOISE COMMITTEE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE.
PARDON? WAS THAT DISBANDED? RECONSTITUTE IT, WHICH WE COULD.
THE COMMITTEE MADE A RECOMMENDATION RIGHT BEFORE.
THIS COUNCIL VOTED AGAINST IT. AND SO WE TRIED IT AND NOW WE NEED TO. TO.
SO, SO I, I SAY WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION.
I. I DON'T THINK THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO GO BACK AND DO ANY FURTHER WORK. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THE WORK THAT WAS DONE AND THEN FILTER IT THROUGH THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF I AGREE OR DISAGREE THAT 75 IS THE RIGHT LEVEL. I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT SAYING YOU DIDN'T GET THE CALLS THAT WE GOT ON THAT NIGHT. AT 75, IT MEASURED 75 DECIBELS.
AND ALL THREE OF US WERE GETTING NUMEROUS CALLS WITH HYSTERICAL PEOPLE, LIKE, WORRIED THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO COME OUT AND FIGHT.
DO YOU THINK IT WAS? BECAUSE WERE THOSE COMPLAINTS COMING IN, LIKE AT 7, 8, 9 O' CLOCK AT NIGHT BEFORE THE NIGHTTIME LEVEL HIT, WHICH AT THAT TIME, 75 WOULD STILL BE AN ALLOWABLE LEVEL? THE FIRST CALLS I GOT WERE AROUND FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON. IT WAS VERY EARLY ON AND THEN, AND THEN IT JUST CONTINUED FOR HOURS. AND THEY, AND THEN POLICE WENT BACK NUMEROUS TIMES. LIKE THIS WASN'T JUST A ONE TIME THING. LIKE THEY. IT WAS A LONG TIME WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU ALL GO BACK? THREE OR FOUR. IT WAS AT LEAST FOUR.
YEAH. IT TOOK A LOT OF OUR, OUR OFFICERS.
SO SEVEN IF YOU. IT CONCERNS ME THAT THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T THINK 75 IS TOO, IS TOO HIGH WITH THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY.
I DON'T HAVE. YEAH. I'M NOT AN AUDIO PERSON, SO I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE 75 IS AND THAT'S SOMETHING I NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
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OTHER, OTHER CITIES THAT.THERE'S NO OTHER CITY IN THIS AREA NEAR 75.
I GUESS I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION. I GUESS WHERE I'M AT IS WE TRIED IT. YES. WE DIDN'T AGREE WITH YOU UP FRONT. A LOT OF THINGS WE DID. THIS IS BASICALLY US SAYING WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN WRONG AND LET US HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN. I DON'T GET THE IMPRESSION ANYBODY ON THIS DIET, I FEEL LIKE DARYL WOULD ALSO BE WILLING TO REVISIT IT AND NOT JUST GO, OKAY, WE TALKED TO YOU, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. I THINK THAT WE DEFINITELY HAVE, WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
AND, AND IT HELPS THAT THE RESIDENTS BROUGHT THEIR CONCERNS, A WIDE VARIETY OF THEM.
SO YEAH, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT CHANGING IT FROM 75 TO SOMETHING ELSE, EVEN THOUGH I WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE 75 VERSUS THE 68. I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M READY TONIGHT BASED ON THE INFORMATION I HAVE NOW.
YEAH, WE'RE NOT POSTED. SHE ASKED THE QUESTION A MINUTE AGO, DOES EVERYBODY AGREE 75 IS TOO HIGH? AND I'M SAYING I CAN'T NECESSARILY AGREE THAT IT IS TOO HIGH. AND PART OF WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU'VE GOT THIS REASONABLE PERSON STANDARD, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE THINGS SO MANY PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE AWAY THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOICE AN OPINION ON ANYTHING. EVEN IF YOU DON'T HIT A CERTAIN DECIBEL LEVEL WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE LEVEL OF COMPLAINTS AND THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS THAT WERE COMING IN.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN THIS TOOK PLACE TOO. WHEN YOU'VE GOT THAT MANY COMPLAINTS COMING IN, HOW DO YOU THINK THAT FAILS TO REACH THE REASONABLE PERSON STANDARD? I THINK YOU STILL LOOK AT THE TIME OF DAY, HOW LOUD IT IS.
IF YOU KNOW SUCH A 75DB IS GOING TO BE LOUDER THAN WHAT THAT REASONABLE PERSONAL STANDARD IS, I'D BE HESITANT TO TAKE ACTION.
SO I GUESS FOR ME IS I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OFFICER WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GOT IT RIGHT.
BUT IF YOU HAVE FOUR PHONE CALLS, WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN 20 PHONE CALLS, I FEEL LIKE GOING INTO COURT AND SAYING, WE HAD 20 REPORTS OF THIS. THAT SHOWS THAT, OKAY, SOME OF THOSE PAINFUL MIGHT BE UNREASONABLE, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE REASONABLE.
THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT, BUT IT'S NOT ALL OF IT. SO THERE'S. THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO TRY TO BUILD THAT REASONABLE PERSON STANDARD. THAT'S WHY THEY WENT TO DECIBEL READING.
THEN WHEN THEY WENT TO THE DECIBEL READING, IT DIDN'T COME WITHIN IN THE RANGE. SO THE REASONABLE PERSON STANDARDS, I WOULD USE IT PERSONALLY. IF I CAME OUT THERE AND I KNEW FOR A FACT, HEY, THIS IS LOUD.
I CAN EASILY ARTICULATE IN COURT AND I'M GOING TO GET CONVICTION. WHAT I DID IS GOING TO BE TOTALLY FINE. I THINK MOST OFFICERS WORRY ABOUT THAT. SO. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT. NOT THAT IT REALLY MATTERS, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT PUBLIC PERCEPTION, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE PUBLIC THINGS, SO.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE USE THAT ORDINANCE THE WAY THE CITY WOULD WANT.
SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS PRESENTATION FOR US. YEAH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST BE PREPARED TO COME BACK FOR A FUTURE AGENDA.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE HEAT.
THANK YOU. OKAY, COUNCIL, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION? WE ARE NOT POISED TO TAKE ACTION.
WELL, I THINK. I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH HERE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION.
DO WE WANT TO PUT THE NOISE COMMITTEE BACK TOGETHER OR DO WE WANT COUNCIL TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS? I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THE NOISE COMMITTEE REALLY ADDS ANY VALUE BECAUSE IF WE HAD GONE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE RECOMMENDATION HAD FAILED, THEN, YEAH, I'D SAY, HEY, COMMITTEE, GO REASSESS THIS.
IF WE GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO SAY, HEY, COMMITTEE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT COUNCIL PASSED VERSUS WHAT YOU ALL SAID TO BEGIN WITH? AND THE COMMITTEES IS GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, I AGREE.
SO EXCUSE ME, I'M HESITANT TO EVEN SAY THIS. DO YOU WANT A WORKSHOP ON THE NOISE COMMITTEE OR ON THE NOISE COMMITTEE?
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I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT.WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, TALKED ABOUT THIS, TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND IT CAME DOWN TO A FEW NUMBERS.
FUNDAMENTALLY WE AGREED, BUT IT WAS THAT NUMBER. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED A 57 MINUTE WORKSHOP ON IT.
YEAH, AND I DON'T. AND KEEP IN MIND, NOTHING HAS COME UP ABOUT ANY OF THE, YOU KNOW, ALLOWABLE DEFENSES, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE EXEMPTIONS OR ANY OF THE OTHER UP. THE ONLY THING THAT HAS COME UP IS THE NUMBER.
THERE ISN'T DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL THE OTHER ITEMS IN THERE.
OKAY, DO YOU WANT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM WHERE A REVISED COPY OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR ACTION? WHEN YOU SAY THE REVISE THE ONE WE DID OR THAT ONE.
TWEAKED, REVISED, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S CHANGED FROM 75 DECIBELS TO WHAT? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU. WHAT Y' ALL WANT AND WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
WELL, I GUESS. I MEAN, I GUESS I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE NUANCE OF IT BECAUSE REALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FEW NUMBERS IN HERE THAT WE CAN SAY WE WOULD LIKE TO REVISE THIS ORDINANCE, CHANGE THIS NUMBER, THIS NUMBER, THIS NUMBER, AND PASS THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD NEED TO CREATE A NEW REVISION.
SO WHY DOES. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO THE WORK AHEAD OF TIME.
TIME WE JUST PASS WITH THE CHANGES.
OKAY, I GUESS. LET ME REWORD THIS. DO Y' ALL WANT TO ASK CATHERINE TO RE. TO REVISE THE ORDINANCE AND BRING IT BACK WITH WHAT NUMBERS? THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING. SO I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE NUMBERS.
I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OF THE ORDINANCE BACK ON THE AGENDA WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING ORDINANCE AND THEN MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT IT. AND IT WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE ADOPTED IN THAT SESSION, BUT AFTER FEEDBACK ON THAT, CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE IT SO WE CAN ADOPT IT THERE? IF WE'RE ONLY CHANGING ONE OR TWO NUMBERS, PLEASE MAKE IT SO WE CAN ADOPT IT. I DON'T WANT TO VISIT THIS SIX MORE TIMES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS WITH JUST ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
UNLESS WE HAVE MORE FEES FROM THE COMMUNITY. NOW I'M TALKING ABOUT UNLESS THIS OCCURS AGAIN AND DO WE WANT TO MAKE THIS CHANGE? THIS IS ONE REALLY SIGNIFICANT OCCURRENCE. BUT IT IS ONE REALLY SIGNIFICANT OCCURRENCE.
IT'S NOT SIX REALLY SIGNIFICANT OCCURRENCES. SO IS ONE. I'M NOT TRYING TO UNDERSTATE WHAT, WHAT TOOK PLACE THAT DAY.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T OVERREACT TO WHAT TOOK PLACE THAT DAY.
SO ACTUALLY WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IN THAT CONVERSATION, I AGREE WITH ROXANNE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE WHERE WE COULD PASS THAT NIGHT WITH JUST CHANGING THIS NUMBER.
CHANGING THIS NUMBER. BUT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF WE COULD GET THE ACTUAL READINGS THAT WERE TAKEN FROM THE OFFICER NOTES SO THAT WE HAVE ACTUAL REAL TIME.
THANK YOU, MS. CHIEF BERDICK, ON, ON YOUR REPORT HERE, IT SAYS THAT THERE WERE 26 TOTAL COMPLAINTS LOGGED. SO HOW ARE THERE 26 IF WE'RE ONLY. WE THINK THERE'S ONLY SEEM TO THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE INCIDENT.
SO SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE WERE NOISE RELATED BUT THEY WEREN'T MUSIC RELATED.
SOME OF THOSE WITH THE POWER WORKS, SOME OF THOSE WITH.
SO THESE ARE ALL NOISE COMPLAINTS. SO THERE WERE 26.
WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT ONE. THERE WERE 26 COMPLAINTS LODGED.
A LOT OF THOSE NOISE COMPLAINTS. THEY HAVE TO LOG THEM UNDER NOISE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SOMEBODY CALLED IN AND CALLED THEM. I READ THEM ON THE POLICE BLOTTER REPORT EVERY WEEK AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SOMEBODY'S COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NOISE OF THE BURGLAR ALARM ON SOMEBODY'S CAR NEXT DOOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT WHICH OR FIREWORKS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. BY THE TIME THE OFFICER GETS THERE, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. RIGHT.
I GUESS THE WAY I'M READING THAT MOST SITUATIONS SELF RESOLVED AND MAYBE YOU CAN CLARIFY. 22 OF 26 COMPLAINTS CLOSED WITHOUT OFFICERS HAVING TO INTERVENE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, NOT HAVING TO INTERVENE? IT MEANS THEY RIDE ON SCENE.
BASICALLY THE NOISE WAS. IT WAS ILLINOIS AT THE TIME. SOME OF THE PARTIES ENDED JUST POORLY OUT THERE OR THERE.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE 22 ADDITIONAL THAT THE DECIBEL WAS NECESSARILY.
BUT WE'VE HAD RESIDENTS WHO SAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY NOISE PROBLEMS IN THE CITY. WHY ARE
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YOU DOING THIS? RIGHT. SO THIS CLEARLY SHOWS THAT THERE ARE.THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE BOTHERED BY NOISE. AND SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GET THIS IN THEIR HEAD THAT THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE INCIDENT.
THIS IS NOT TRUE. WE HAVE NOISE PROBLEMS IN OUR CITY AND WE NEED THESE ORDINANCES FOR THAT REASONING. SO I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE THINKING THERE'S ONE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
NO, THERE WAS ONE EGREGIOUS PLUS OTHERS. YES, BECAUSE YOU SAID OF THE FOUR DIRECT ACTION THAT WAS NOT THAT INCIDENT THAT WASN'T FOUR.
AT THAT INCIDENT, THERE WERE FOUR INCIDENTS.
YEAH. OKAY. CATHERINE, DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED?
[8. CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION, AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. 916, ADOPTING CHAPTER 55 REGULATING THE USE OF CITY PROPERTY AND AMENDING CHAPTER 153 RELATING TO ELECTIONEERING. [2026 0616 CC MEETING] ]
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE NOISE OR. OKAY, THEN WE WILL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND.
OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 916, ADOPTING CHAPTER 55, REGULATING THE USE OF CITY PROPERTY AND AMENDING CHAPTER 153, RELATING TO ELECTIONEERING. OKAY, COUNCIL, YOU HAD THIS IN YOUR PACKET, MR. BARON.
SO THERE'S ONE THING I DON'T LIKE IN HERE, WHICH IS THAT I LOST THE PAGE AT THE MOMENT. IT SAYS UNDER YOUR CANOPY YOU CAN HAVE ONE TABLE AND TWO CHAIRS. I THINK WE NEED TO UP THOSE NUMBERS.
LIKE MAYBE TWO TABLES AND FIVE OR SIX CHAIRS.
DO WE NEED TO DICTATE WHAT'S UNDER THE CANOPY? WELL, SINCE IT'S ONLY A DAY AND NOT A WEEK, I THINK I AGREE WITH ROXANNE. I THINK IF IT WAS SOMEBODY BRINGING IN THEIR PATIO SET FOR SEVEN DAYS, THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, THE THING I WONDERED ABOUT IT IS WE HAVE CHAIRS, OF CHAIRS AND TABLES ONLY LISTED AS PART OF A CANOPY. THAT'S PART OF A DEFINITION OF A CANOPY. EVEN THOUGH A CANOPY IS ACTUALLY NOT A CHAIR AND A TABLE, IT'S A 10 BY 10 CANOPY. USE A WORD TO DEFINE ITSELF. SO I WAS WONDERING WHEN I READ IT WHY WE DIDN'T JUST HAVE. YOU CAN HAVE SOME CHAIRS AND TABLES OUT THERE AND YOU CAN HAVE A CANOPY BUT NOT HAVE CHAIRS AND TABLE AS THE DATE DEFINITION OF A CANOPY. BECAUSE YOU COULD WANT TO JUST BRING A COUPLE OF CHAIRS JUST TO SIT OUT THERE AND NOT HAVE A CANOPY.
YEAH, I MEAN, CAN I BRING A CHAIR TO THE PARK? JUST.
ANYWAY, CURRENTLY THAT HAPPENS.
THAT'S A WHAT? CURRENTLY THAT HAPPENS? NO, JUST ANY OTHER DAY.
LIKE IF I WANT TO HANG OUT IN THE PARK TOMORROW IN A CHAIR, I CAN NEED THAT.
SO THAT'S ALLOWED, REGARDLESS OF THIS.
YEAH, THIS WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT.
BUT I CAN SIT IN THE PARK ANY DAY. BUT ELECTION DAY, JUST FYI, THE PARK DOESN'T ACTUALLY START UNTIL YOU'RE ALMOST AT THE TREE LINE. THE AREA THAT FIELD, THIS RIGHT OUT HERE, IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE CITY HALL PROPERTY AND NOT PART OF THE ACTUAL PRESERVE.
WELL, THE PARK AND THE PRESERVE ARE PERCEIVED AS DIFFERENT ITEMS THAN THEY ARE.
HAVE A WHOLE OTHER CONVERSATION FOR THAT, BUT I'M OKAY IF WE JUST DELETE THAT. CHAIRS AND WHAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE.
WHAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE CANOPY. THE CHAIRS AND TABLE LINE.
THE REASON THAT WAS ADDED IS BECAUSE IN THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION THERE HAD BEEN A REFERENCE TO WE DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF FURNITURE UP HERE. AND SO IN 5508 YOU HAVE THIS PROHIBITION ON PERSONAL PROPERTY BEING STORED, ABANDONED, ETC. AND THEN WHAT YOU SEE IN 153 THEN IS A CLARIFICATION SO THAT YOU CAN USE THESE THINGS DESPITE THE PROHIBITION IN 5508.
OKAY, WELL, I'M FINE EITHER REMOVING IT OR UPPING THE NUMBERS. JUST ONE TABLE AND TWO TIERS IS NOT. IT'S JUST TOO LOW.
YOU DEFINE TEMPORARY STRUCTURE, WHICH IS WHERE TENT, CANOPY, BOOTH, AWNING, ETC.
COMES IN. WHY DON'T YOU JUST HAVE SOMETHING THAT DEFINES TEMPORARY FURNITURE TOO, AS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM. SO FURNITURE SEPARATE FROM CANOPY.
SO THEN YOU'D HAVE TO DESCRIBE LIKE A PATIO CHAIR VERSUS A FOUR HOLDING CHAIR VERSUS A.
LIKE, THAT'S GETTING TOO DETAILED.
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NO, I'M NOT SAYING YOU DESCRIBE THE KIND OF CHAIR. I DON'T THINK.UNLESS YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE BRINGING RECLINERS UP HERE, WHICH PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAPPEN.
THIS IS WHERE I'M AT. I MEAN, YOU SAY RECREATIONAL FURNITURE AND NOW SOMEBODY'S GOT ALL THEIR LOUNGERS FROM THE POOL.
LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT. I MEAN, IF WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO ONE DAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO SHOW UP FOR ONE DAY AND BRING ALL YOUR PATIO FURNITURE, HAVE AT IT. RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I'D PERSONALLY RATHER NOT DICTATE WHAT GOES UNDER THE THING IF IT'S UNDER THE CANOPY. IF IT'S ONLY FOR ONE DAY, LIKE YOU SAID, NOBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO BRING ALL THE BIG.
WELL, WE JUST CHANGED THE LINE TO SAY.
WHICH LINE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M UNDER, BUT IT'S FIVE ASSOCIATED ITEMS AND PROHIBITED FEATURES AND IT'S ITEM TWO UNDER THERE. JUST MAKE IT JUST SAY MAY INCLUDE TABLES AND CHAIRS. AND WE DON'T NEED TO GET IN THE WEEDS ABOUT MAKING THIS REALLY COMPLEX.
I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE BRINGING HALF A DOZEN THEIR WHOLE PATIO SET UP HERE.
AND IF THEY WANT TO, I GUESS FOR ONE DAY, THAT'S FINE. I'D RATHER LEAVE IT AT THAT. LEAVE IT AT ONE DAY. I MEAN, PART OF THE BIG COMPLAINT WAS SOME PEOPLE WANTED THIS TO TAKE PLACE DURING THE ENTIRE TWO WEEKS OF EARLY VOTING. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EXPAND IT TO THE ENTIRE TWO WEEKS OF EARLY VOTING. THEY LEAVE IT OUT THERE OVERNIGHT EVERY NIGHT, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO GET AWAY WITH. GET AWAY FROM.
IF YOU'RE OTHERWISE GOOD WITH THAT, YOU COULD MOVE APPROVAL WITH THAT CHANGE.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I NEED TO NOTE. ARE WE DONE WITH THAT? CAN YOU DEFINE THE CHANGE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH THAT CHANGE.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE. JUST ON THE WHOLE THING OR JUST ON THAT SECTION? I THOUGHT THE WHOLE THING.
I GOT A COUPLE THINGS I NEEDED.
JUST A QUESTION. I'M ON PAGE ON THE REMOVAL AND ABATEMENT OF THE PROPERTY. WE ON A IT TALKS ABOUT MAY REMOVE AND THEN ON B IT SAYS WE HAVE TO HAVE. IF THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE THREAT, WE CAN TAKE IT OUT WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE. SO THAT KIND OF IMPLIES TO ME THAT IN A WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT.
WE HAVE TO GIVE PRIOR NOTICE ABOUT REMOVING IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? PRIOR NOTICE. AND THEN IF WE GO DOWN TO D, IT SAYS WE MAY PROVIDE. IF WE GIVE A REASONABLE TIME TO REMOVE.
WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THERE WERE THOSE THREE.
THERE'S THREE OR FOUR THINGS ALL BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BETWEEN A AND E THAT IT KIND OF WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING FOR ME.
I THINK SOME OF THAT WOULD BE UP TO STAFF DISCRETION THAT IF YOU WANTED TO FIND THOSE THINGS, WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH.
IT WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSING AS FAR AS NOTICE. SO SOME THINGS, IF IT'S. IF IT'S REQUIRING. IF IT'S IMMEDIATE WITH HEALTH THREAT, THEN WE CAN TAKE IT OUT IMMEDIATELY.
BUT THEN OTHERWISE IT REFERS TO REQUIRING NOTICE. AND THEN WE DON'T DEFINE REQUIRING NOTICE. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I REALLY WANT TO REQUIRE NOTICE.
LIKE IF YOU'VE BROKEN THE RULE, IT'S GETTING REMOVED, PERIOD.
I THINK IT WOULD START TO FALL UNDER THE ABANDONED PROPERTY PROVISIONS IN THE.
IS IT IN THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE OR THE PENAL CODE THAT HAS THOSE SPECIFIC PROVISIONS FOR ABANDONED PROPERTY? I THINK THAT'S THE NOTICE PROVISIONS THAT WOULD BE REFERRING BACK TO AS ABANDONED PROPERTY.
THE ABANDONED PROPERTY LIKE IT WAS WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT PRIOR. I KNOW IT WAS LIKE A LONG TIME, RIGHT? IT HAD TO BE LIKE 24 HOURS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE WHAT TO DEFINE ABANDONED PROPERTY.
LIKE WAS A BIG DEAL. IT WASN'T AS EASY AS, OH, THERE'S NO ONE SITTING HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHOSE IT IS. I'M TAKING IT.
I DON'T THINK SERGEANT WAS EXPECTING HIM. WE CALLED ON FOR THIS ONE.
I GUESS THERE'S TWO ABANDONED PROPERTY. USUALLY YOU GET CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO PREVENTING CONSEQUENCES OF THEFT. SO IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY THAT'S UNSECURE, EVEN SCARY,
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PICK IT UP. SO THAT SITUATION MAY BE BEST TO. AND HAS IT BEEN LEFT OUT THERE FOR A LONG PERIOD TIME.WHAT'S A LONG PERIOD OF TIME? I THINK IS THE QUESTION.
AND IF WE'RE TALKING ELECTION DAY, RIGHT, LIKE, IS THAT A WHOLE DAY OF SOMEONE NOT STANDING NEXT TO IT? WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO IT BELONGS TO? I WOULD SAY IT'S GOING TO, BASICALLY.
SO, LIKE, ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT OF WAS, LIKE, IF THERE'S CHAIRS ALL SET OUT AND TABLES SET OUT, AND THEN THE STAFF COMES AND THEY NEED TO MOW, IT'S NOT REALLY A HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY THING WHERE WE CAN IMMEDIATELY REMOVE IT, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE IT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO DO BUSINESS. SO MAYBE WE COULD WORD THIS BETTER, THAT I DON'T WANT TO BREAK ANY OF THE OTHER LAWS AS FAR AS TOUCHING PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
WELL, IF WE'RE JUST REDUCING THIS TO A SINGLE DAY, ELECTION DAY, THEN I THINK WE CAN WORK AROUND THE MOWING MUCH BETTER THAN WE HAD IN THE PAST.
THAT CAME IN WHEN THERE WAS STUFF OUT THERE FOR TWO, THREE WEEKS.
AM I RIGHT? THAT YOUR MAJOR CONCERN HERE IS THAT THAT ONE SECTION SAYS WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE, AND SO THEREFORE YOU'RE THINKING THE REST OF IT IMPLIES NOTICE.
AND WHAT DOES NOTICE MEAN? LIKE A FORMAL WRITTEN LETTER TO SOMEONE SAYING, PLEASE REMOVE THIS PROPERTY, OR WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I DON'T KNOW.
SO, KATHRYN, IF WE JUST EITHER PUT WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE EVERYWHERE OR JUST REMOVE THE WORD WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE, ARE WE FINE? I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND LOOK AT THE PROVISIONS ON ABANDONED PROPERTY.
BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS IN SECTION 55. THIS ISN'T UNDER THE ELECTIONEERING PROVISION, WHERE IT'S ONLY HAPPENING FOR ONE DAY. THIS IS APPLYING TO ANYTHING THAT SOMEBODY COMES AND ABANDONS ON CITY PROPERTY.
WELL, IF THAT'S OKAY. SO GIVEN THAT GREATER SCOPE, I THINK I'M OKAY WITH WHAT HERE.
IN HERE, IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE PENALTY IF THEY BREAK ANY OF THIS? AS FAR AS JUST WE CAN JUST REMOVE THE PROPERTY.
LIKE, IS THERE ANY PENALTY ANYWHERE? I SAW UNDER THE PENALTY SECTION, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT SAID THAT YOU, LIKE, YOU'D GET A TICKET IF YOU DID THAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT SECTION 8E THERE, IT SAYS IT REFERS TO SECTION 10.99. 74.
AT THE BOTTOM, WHAT'S ON 74? YOU SAY VIOLATION CONTINUES.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT DOESN'T SAY THE CONSEQUENCE.
WELL, NO, THE CONSEQUENCES IS IN SECTION 10.99.
SO DO WE KNOW WHAT'S IN 10.99? 10.99 IS OUR STANDARD PENALTIES PROVISION OF OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. SO I CAN, I CAN BRING THAT UP ON THE SCREEN IF YOU LIKE.
BUT IT'S. IT'S JUST YOUR STANDARD LANGUAGE.
I DIDN'T SEE THAT. THAT'S FINE.
AS LONG AS IT SAYS THAT REFERENCES SOMEWHERE WE CAN GO SEE IT, THAT'S FINE. I DIDN'T.
NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY I WAS GOING TO ASK KATHRYN IF SHE HAS THE MOTION WE NEED TO MAKE.
IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT. THERE'S STILL A PLACE THAT IT TALKS ABOUT PERMITS. SO DO WE HAVE A PROCEDURE FOR THE PERMITS OR FEE SCHEDULES FOR THE PERMITS OR HOW THAT GOES? I DON'T WANT THAT TO FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. SO ONCE WE PUT THIS IN EFFECT, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS COVERED BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT NOW FOR A PERMIT FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES THAT TALKED ABOUT PERMISSION.
YEAH, I KNOW, KATHRYN, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE WE LEFT IT.
I BELIEVE THIS ALIGNS WITH THE PERMIT PROCESS THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN PARKS, PARKS AND RECREATION. YEAH, IT WAS THE SAME WAY WE PHRASED PERMITS IN OTHER PLACES IN THE CODE.
I JUST TO WANT. WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A PROCEDURE FOR THAT AND A FEE SCHEDULE
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FOR THAT. IF ONE EXISTS, GREAT. IF NOT, I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO GET MISSED.IT WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE A FOLLOW UP ITEM.
AND I BELIEVE FROM MY RECOLLECTION THE PARK SYSTEM ISN'T EVEN REALLY A FORMAL PROCESS. I BELIEVE IT JUST SAYS THAT THE MAYOR OR THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR MAY WAIVE ANY PARK RULES.
NOW THAT THIS OR THIS SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT PERMITS, SO.
NO, NO, I, I KNOW THAT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IS OVER IN THE PARK SIDE OF THIS AND THAT THERE IS NO FORMAL PERMIT PROCESS FOR THE PARK.
SO WE CAN WAVE A PERMIT THAT DOESN'T EXIST? WELL, NO, IT'S. IT'S NOT.
THEY'RE NOT WEIGHING THE PERMIT. THEY'RE WAIVING THE RULES IS THE WAY IT'S DEFINED IN THE ORDINANCES THEY'RE PERMITTING.
DO YOU KNOW OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT, LIKE WE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ON HERE ABOUT LIKE COOKING, LIKE GRILLING OUTSIDE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO PUT IN HERE OR IS THERE ANYWHERE ELSE IN ANY OTHER ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW. SOMEBODY WANTS TO START BUSTING OUT GRILLS AND HANDING OUT BURGERS AND I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT IS IN THE PARK RULES, IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THE PARK RULES ON THAT. BUT YOU WILL ALSO HAVE SOME APPLICABILITY FOR THAT ON OUTDOOR GRILLING UNDER YOUR FIRE ORDINANCE OR AN OUTDOOR BURNING ORDINANCE THAT'S COMING UP IN A COUPLE WEEKS. BUT THERE'S NOT ANYTHING SPECIFIC IN THIS.
SO DO WE WANT TO ADD THAT OR NOT WORRY ABOUT IT. ANYONE? I DON'T WANT TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
OKAY, BACK TO THE PERMIT THING. I AM ON PAGE 72. IF YOU LOOK AT F, IT SAYS THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR OR THE MAYOR SHALL HAVE APPROVAL OR AUTHORITY TO ISSUE SPECIAL PERMITS, GRANT EXCEPTIONS OR WAIVERS.
SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SAY YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT. THE MAYOR OR THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR CAN JUST GRANT AN EXCEPTION OR WAIVER.
SO THEN TAKE OUT THE WORD PERMITS THEN. IF WE'RE NOT DOING THAT, I'M FINE.
IF WE TAKE OUT THE WORD PERMIT.
I THINK WE'RE GETTING FAR ENOUGH ALONG WITH THE CHANGES HERE.
YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS LET KATHERINE KNOW HOW WE WANT IT AND LET GET HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE AND BRING BACK TO COUNCIL.
WELL, I THINK THE ONLY THINGS WE TALK ABOUT HERE IS TRYING TO GET RID OF THE PERMIT LANGUAGE AND THEN THE CHAIRS AND TABLES SECTION.
OKAY. IF I'M HEARING WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, WE ARE GOING TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL KATHERINE HAS A CHANCE TO WORK ON IT AND RETURN IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
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KATHERINE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? SHE DOESN'T GET VOTE. SHE DOESN'T GET TO VOTE? NO.OKAY. OKAY. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. OKAY. OKAY. THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO ROUTINE ITEMS. WE WILL DO OUR UPDATES. THE FIRST UPDATE WE HAVE IS 2551. MR. MACHADO, YOU WANT TO TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON WITH 2551? THEY ARE LINE STABILIZING TODAY.
HE'S TELLING ME THOUGH, THEY SHOULD HAVE PAYMENT DOWN.
ASPHALT SHOULD START GOING DOWN BY THE END OF THE WEEK.
OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE ON 24, 2551? ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON 2551? OKAY, THEN LET'S MOVE TO TCEQ. MR. PILGRIM.
NEXT KEY DATE ON TCEQ IS AUGUST 10TH. IT'S THE DEADLINE FOR ALL PARTIES TO FILE THEIR DISPOSITIVE MOTIONS AND OBJECTIONS TO AND MOTIONS TO STRIKE PRE FILE TESTIMONY AND EXHIBITS. AND THEN AFTER THAT, AUGUST 17 IS THE DEADLINE FOR PARTIES TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THOSE FILINGS. AND THEN WE'RE STILL ON TRACK FOR SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH THE 17TH AS THE SOA HEARING AND I BELIEVE THE APPEAL WAS FILED TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THIS WEEK AT TCEQ. THE APPEAL
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OF THE TCEQ PERMIT WAS FILED IN ASSUME THE 15TH CIRCUIT.ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. DRONES. DO YOU OR MR. BARRON HAVE ANYTHING ON DRONES? NO UPDATES AT THIS TIME ON DRONES, MADAM MAYOR.
OKAY, AT ONE POINT, Y' ALL HAD INDICATED Y' ALL WERE TRYING TO GET A FACT SHEET TOGETHER TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE. IS THAT STILL IN PROCESS? IT'S STILL ON MY TO DO LIST, BUT IT HAS NOT HAD MUCH PROCESS HERE LATELY.
OKAY. BUT IT'S STILL BEING PLANNED. OKAY.
DO YOU WANT TO REPORT WHAT CONGRESSMAN SELF HAD TO SAY ABOUT DRONES TODAY? SURE, MAYOR.
SO, SPEAKING. SPEAKING ON DRONES, THERE. THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF ABILITY TO.
TO REGULATE AT THIS TIME. HE KIND OF CONFIRMED OUR UNDERSTANDING AND OUR RESEARCH ON THAT ONE. BUT HE DID MENTION THAT IF WE CAN GET A PRECISE, DETAILED NARRATIVE OF THE ISSUES WE'RE FACING HERE IN PARKER, SPECIFICALLY THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE REALLY HAVING CONSTERNATION, HE COULD PERSONALLY GET WITH FAA ON THAT TO SEE IF THERE'S A SOLUTION THAT CAN BE FOUND. DID YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR SOMETHING ELSE? I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF TOPICS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
I THOUGHT IT'D BE GOOD TO PASS THAT ON, THAT WE DID RAISE THE TOPIC WITH HIM, AND HE DIDN'T GIVE US A LOT OF ENCOURAGEMENT THAT CITIES ARE GOING TO HAVE MUCH OF ANY AUTHORITY TO REGULATE DRONES.
OKAY. BASED ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS EARLIER, I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT WE DON'T NEED TO UPDATE. RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, AND WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT LATER. AND ON FACILITIES, THAT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. AND AS SOON AS WE
[10. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $1,000 [RES. NO. 2024-801]) ]
CAN, WE WILL GO ON OUR NEXT MEETING ON THAT AT THIS TIME, THEN WE WILL GO TO DONATIONS. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS FOR POLICE, FIRE AND CITY STAFF.FOR THE RECORD, MIRIAM BROGIARDI AND MOHAMMAD MAZATI DONATED ONE DOZEN NOTHING BUT CAKES, BUNTINIS, VALUED AT $28, TO CITY STAFF. AARON DUNCAN DONATED TWO LARGE PIZZAS VALUED AT $45 TO CITY STAFF.
WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK VERY MUCH OUR DONORS.
THEY ARE SO GOOD TO US AND WE APPRECIATE THEM SO MUCH FOR THEIR KINDNESS
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TO OUR STAFF. THANK YOU. NEXT WE WILL GO TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. AS COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE ADDED AT THIS TIME? YOU ADDED THE NOISE ALREADY.OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I HAVE ONE.
THANK YOU. ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT IT. I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PUT ON THE AGENDA THAT WE TO DISCUSS. SPEED LIMIT ON DUBLIN ROAD.
ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT? I'M HAPPY WITH THE ENFORCEMENT, BUT I'M
[EXECUTIVE SESSION ]
NOT SURE IT REFLECTS THE REALITY. I DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS IT TONIGHT, BUT I'D LIKE TO PUT IT ON A SUPER FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THAT WE AT LEAST DISCUSS. SPEED LIMIT ON THE DUBLIN ROAD.OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL? OKAY.
WE WILL THEN RECESS TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THE GOVERNMENTS WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.5. CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY OR PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION OR A SETTLEMENT OFFER OR TWO. CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS RULES OF DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICT CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER ON ANY OF THE ITEMS LISTED ELSEWHERE WITHIN THIS AGENDA OR ON THE SUBJECT MATTER LISTED BELOW.
PETITION FOR DEANNEXATION OF RESTORE THE GRASSLAND PROPERTY. CONDITIONAL APPROVAL
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OF RTG'S PLAT FOR CALLING CAD PID NUMBER 266398 AND NUMBER 353236. BAI COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, COMPENSATION OR DISMISSAL OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR OR THE CITY SECTION SECRETARY.[RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING. ]
IN RECESS. I'M SORRY. IT JUST CAUGHT MY EYE. I HEREBY RECONVENE THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF THE CITY OF PARKER. IT IS ON AUGUST.COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY APPROPRIATE DELIBERATION AND OR ACTION ON ANY OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS LISTED ABOVE? NO, MADAM. NO, MADAM MAYOR.
COUNCIL, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? NOT HEARING ANYTHING. WE ARE ADJOURNED. IT IS 10:23.
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