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[CALL TO ORDER]
THIS IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR JULY 9TH, 2026, BEGINNING AT 5 P.M.OKAY, WE HAVE A QUORUM HERE, AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH OUR PLEDGES.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
NEED TO GET TO IS OUR PUBLIC, AND WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS.WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF UNHAPPY RESIDENTS NEAR AND FAR IN OUR CITY, AND I'M STILL CURIOUS TO WHY WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT PONDS.
WE SHOULD ALSO BE TALKING ABOUT RAIN WATERING, HARVESTING CISTERNS, TO CO-TURNING IT INTO SOMETHING USEFUL INSTEAD OF LETTING MORE PUDDLES AND MORE FLOODING TO CONTINUE TO GROW MAN-MADE PONDS.
IT'S CREATING PROBLEMS IN NEW AND EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS IN PARKER.
I SUGGEST THAT THE CITY AND PNZ CONSIDER AND TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.
INTO THESE STORAGE CONTAINERS TO SEND THEM TO WATER TREATMENT PLANTS TO CONTROL THESE RAIN WATERS AND NOT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO DRAIN THIS WATER.
WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO THESE HOUSES TO GET THESE COMPLETED.
THESE SOURCES OF VALUABLE RESOURCES ARE OF GOOD USE.
FOR EVEN THE FUTURE DROUGHT AND OTHER USES FOR THE CITY.
WE ARE NOT JUST WATCHING CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE WILL BE KEEPING AN EYE ON THE PNZ ON WHY THIS PROBLEM HAS NOT BEEN SOLVED EFFICIENTLY AND WHAT'S MAKING THIS HESITATION.
I HAVE SENT MY EXPANDED PUBLIC COMMENTS TO YOU ON FIRE SAFETY ISSUES THAT I CAUGHT TUESDAY.
NOT MENTIONED IN THE RECENT COUNCIL MEETING.
AND NOT IMPRESSED WITH WHY PNZ IS NOT REFERRING TO LEGALITIES TO ALSO.
I DO NOT HAVE TO BE JUDGE JOHN ROCHE TO SEE RIGHT THROUGH PEOPLE TO KNOW IF SOMETHING'S OFF.
WE WILL GO ON TO THE NEXT PERSON, ADNAN TARHONI.
EVERYBODY, ADNAN TARHONI AT MOSS RIDGE.
I PROVIDED, BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS ASKED, FROM 2019 TO...
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THEM OR NOT.
SOME OF IT IS FROM THE PAST, WHERE MY NEIGHBOR BLOCKED THE WATER THAT COMES.
AND THE HISTORY ABOUT IT GOES TOO FAR.
WE USED TO HAVE DITCHES AROUND MCRATER ROAD.
JUST LIKE THEY USED TO BE HERE, DITCHES.
AND THE WATER COMES AND KEEPS GOING IN THE DITCHES.
THE BOMB DOES NOT SEND WATER OUT THERE.
GO TO GOOGLE EARTH OR OTHER CITY AND YOU WILL SEE THAT.
ANOTHER THING, ONCE THEY BUILT THE STREET, THEY RAISED IT ABOUT 100 FEET FROM THE ENTRANCE OF MOSQUE.
WHEN IT WAS RAISED, PUT THE WATER BACK.
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FLOODED SOME OF THE NEIGHBOR.I MEAN IT'S A FAMILIAR YARD BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S VERY LITTLE WATER COMING FORWARD.
ONCE THEY BUILT THAT AND WE START HAVING MORE WATER, VIDEO HIGHER.
UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE TO DIG THEM UP.
I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THEM.
BEFORE THEY BUILD MCCREE, I CLEAN MY DITCH, WHICH WAS VERY LITTLE, AND ABOUT THREE COVERS IN THERE.
THEY ASKED ME IN 2017, 16, NO 17, I WAS IN DENVER WORKING, 16.
THEY WANT TO DIG THE DITCH, CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE EXTRA EASEMENT SO WE CAN, WE WILL PULL THIS TREE AND WE WILL MAKE IT NICE AND HERE'S THE THING, I READ EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING GOES FINE.
EVERY TIME I COME FROM DENVER, EVERY ONE WEEK, TWO WEEKS, THAT, THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IS DIGGING MORE THAN FOUR.
AND THAT FORCED THEM TO PUT A PIPE THAT I DID NOT HAVE.
THAT PIPE IN FRONT OF MY 100 FEET, WHICH IS NOT REALLY BIG, AND IT DOESN'T TAKE THE WATER THAT'S GOING TO COME NOW FROM...
MYSELF THE WATER START COMING TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND THE HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE START RISING THIS IS PURE ENGINEERING HE TOLD ME IT'S STILL ABOUT ONE INCH IT'S NOT BAD AND JUST WAIT A LITTLE BIT UNTIL IT STARTS AND THEN I HAD THE FLOODING IS STILL A WORKUP.
WHEN THEY DUG THE DITCH, AND THEY BUILT THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHEN THEY DUG THAT, WHEN THEY BUILT, FILLED IT UP, THE LOW AREA, EVERYBODY IN THE CITY TOOK IT.
I'M GONNA DO MY THING IN MY YARD.
HE OPENED THE END OF THE STORY.
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SHOWS HOW IT GOES AND FROM THE NORTH NOW, ONE WARNING FOR MY DAD'S HOME AND...INSTEAD OF BRINGING DIRT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PERMIT TO MEET.
IN HERE THEY WILL DO THE SAME.
WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS, AND I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WILL HAPPEN, USUALLY WE DON'T DO BIDDING AND I'M GOING TO...
SQUEEZE IT OUT BECAUSE SINCE THE MEETING IN TUESDAY, IT REALLY MAKES ME...
IN THE EAST SIDE, I HAVE 333 FEET.
AND YOU HAVE AN EASEMENT IN IT THAT ALL THE ROAD FROM MAAS REEF, NOT SOUTHSIDE, SOUTH AND MORE THAN EVERYWHERE, AND THE FARM GOES IN.
YOU'RE NOT USING THE 25, YOU'RE USING THE BAT.
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AND THE DEVELOPER CHANGED THAT THING, PROBABLY BASED ON THE OWNER, HE SAID, INTO ANCIENT BASED ON THE PEN THAT USED TO BE, I'M GOING TO...RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY FLOODING.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS NOT SO IF WE TAKE THE WATER.
ONCE THEY COME BACK TO PUT THE GRASS.
[1. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR MAY 28, 2026. ]
OKAY, ON TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM.CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR MAY 28, 2026.
DO WE HAVE THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THAT DATE? WE HAVE THEM FOR BOTH DAYS.
MEETING MINUTES FOR MAY 28TH? SO WE HAVE ONE MINOR TYPO.
WELL, WITH THAT ONE MINOR TYPO, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES?
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IT'S WITH THE CORRECTION THAT WILL BE MADE.OKAY, WE HAVE MOTION AND THEN SECONDED.
[2. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR JUNE 11, 2026.]
ITEM TWO, CONSIDERATION AND OR APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR JUNE 11TH, 2026.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY? CHANGES, UPDATES, OR COMPLAINTS ON THOSE MEETING MINUTES? I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MEETING MINUTES FOR JUNE 11, 2026.
[3. DISCUSSION REGARDING FLOODING AND DRAINAGE CONCERNS WITHIN THE CITY. ]
OKAY, NOW THE ITEM, ITEM NUMBER THREE.DISCUSSION REGARDING FLOODING AND DRAINAGE CONCERNS WITHIN THE CITY.
SO WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT FROM A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS AND I JUST WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT WE'VE GOT, I THINK, OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR WHO WANTS TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION, PERHAPS SOME BACKGROUND.
DO WE WANT TO SHOW THESE VIDEOS? WE DO HAVE THE VIDEOS.
AND THEN LET'S LET EVERYONE JUST KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
THIS IS A VIDEO SUBMITTED BY MR. ALAN MEYER OF THE MOSS RIDGE ESTATE SUBDIVISION FROM LAST MONTH.
OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT A DITCH OUT FRONT THERE THAT'S HANDLING A LOT OF WATER.
AND THAT WATER IS COMING FROM, NOW HERE WE'RE STARTING TO GET, THIS IS WHERE WE START GETTING, IS THAT COMING FROM BETWEEN HOUSES? WHAT IS THE SOURCE FOR THIS WATER? GARY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.
I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THAT NAME.
YEAH, AND THAT'S, I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT WAS COMING.
AND I CAN PULL UP A MAP OF THE PROPERTY ADDRESS.
DO WE KNOW THE DATE? THAT WATER, IS IT DATED ON THE VIDEO? IS THAT THE DATE OF THE FLOODING? NO, MA'AM.
IT'S THE DATE HE SENT IT TO US? YES, MA'AM.
YEAH, I'M SURE WE CAN GET THE DATES, BUT WE CAN LINE THOSE UP SOMEHOW WITH OUR RAINFALLS THAT WE'VE HAD, I'M SURE.
THERE WAS SOME RAIN TO COME IN SO I COULD WALK OUT AND WATCH.
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NOW THAT, THAT RIGHT THERE IS WHAT BOTHERS ME.THAT HAPPENED ON DOVER DRIVE WHERE THE TRANSFORMER, I AGED THIS TRANSFORMER HOW IT RATED, AND GECC SAID THAT I DO NOT KNOW, AND I DO NOT KNOW HOW THAT TERM IS RATED.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M SEEING ON A LOT OF THIS IS WE'VE GOT SOME...
WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL SOME FRONT YARD DITCHES THAT WERE MADE TO HANDLE A PARTICULAR AMOUNT OF WATER THAT ARE GETTING WAY OVERFLOWED WITH.
WAY TOO MUCH WATER COMING IN THOSE FRONTS.
CAN I ASK, GARY, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? ARE THE RULES FOR HOW WE REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO AIM AS THEY WERE WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING? SO THE ONES WE DO TODAY, 100 YEAR FLOOD, WHAT WAS MOSS RIDGE? CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TWO FACTORS.
WHO'S A RESPONSE? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF DESIGN THAT GOES INTO THAT, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE RETENTION PONDS A LOT OF TIMES.
IT SLOWS THE FLOW RATE DOWN DOWNSTREAM.
IT DOESN'T INUNDATE EVERYBODY DOWNSTREAM.
A LOT OF DESIGN THAT GOES INTO ALL THIS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE...
IN ORDER TO DO THE CORRECT DESIGN.
I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LET KENT'S PRESENTATION...
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I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE OVER TIME FROM THE MAINTENANCE PERSON, YOU GET THESE RAIN EVENTS AND FROM ALL THESE OTHER OPEN SPACES, YOU END UP GETTING ALL THE SILT THAT KEEPS FILLING EVERYTHING UP.SO I KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WHERE I LIVE, I'VE GOT AT LEAST FOUR FEET OF SILT THAT'S BUILT UP IN 25 YEARS.
HOW OLD IS MOSTERT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD? 2006.
WHAT ARE YOU INTENDING TO SHOW HERE? IS THAT? ALL THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE IS A...
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A LITTLE BIT OF DOUBLE AND ROAD ISSUE SOMETIMES.[00:40:04]
SO DO ANY OF THOSE GRANTS, DO THOSE ALL ASSUME THAT YOU'RE FIXING CITY PROPERTY, OR DOES IT ASSUME YOU'RE FIXING PRIVATE? OKAY, SO I'VE GOT A FEW NOTES HERE.AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, THERE WAS A, I JUST WANT TO BRING UP REAL QUICKLY, THERE WAS A LETTER FROM LYNETTE AMAR AND ABOUT THE PLANO STORM DRAINAGE MANUAL.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING REALLY TO THAT.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE REALLY ISN'T BECAUSE PARKER.
WALKER'S CITY CODE 155.061 REFERENCE STORM DRAINAGE MANUAL, WHICH PROBABLY DOESN'T EXIST.
OKAY, SO THE ASSERTION THAT SHE MADE THAT WE'RE USING LIKE A PLANO STORM DRAINAGE MANUAL IS CORRECT? OKAY, WHICH MAKES NO SENSE FOR OUR CITY, THOUGH, DOES IT? OKAY, I GUESS...
I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS STUFF BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE, WHICH DOESN'T WORK VERY WELL WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ISSUES IT CAUSES.
BUT YOU BROUGHT UP THE POINT THAT MOSS RIDGE DONE...
PRETTY MUCH DESIGNED TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD, RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, THERE'S...
SO THAT WAS DESIGNED TO ANOTHER STANDARD, AND THAT WAS AT A POINT SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS WEREN'T VERY WELL ENFORCED, MAYBE.
WELL, A TWO-YEAR FLOOD VERSUS A 100-YEAR FLOOD IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT EVENT.
WE'VE HAD PERIODS OF TIME, BUT WE DEFINITELY KNOW THAT THERE'S A MISMATCH THERE.
SO WE'VE GOT PLANO'S CURB AND GUTTERS, CLOSED STORM SEWER NETWORKS, THEY'VE GOT DEDICATED MAINTENANCE STAFF, AND A HUGE AMOUNT OF...
PROPERTY AND YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THEY HAVE LOTS OF MONEY AND WE'RE KIND OF THE RURAL ROADS AND OPEN BAR DITCHES AND WE'RE WITH WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE UM A LOT OF TIMES WHATEVER WE GET THE DEVELOPERS TO DO AND WE DON'T UM FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE WE JUST DON'T HAVE A CREW THAT GOES AROUND AND FIXES A BUNCH OF THAT UM AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE JUST GOT A LOT OF INFILTRATION OF EXTRA SILT AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES ALONG AS WELL.
SO I GUESS FOR TONIGHT, I GUESS WE'VE KIND OF ANSWERED THE QUESTION ABOUT THERE NOT REALLY BEING A PARKER STORM DRAINAGE MANUAL.
SO WE CAN KIND OF SET ALL THAT ASIDE.
AND I GUESS WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS...
SEVERAL RESIDENTS WHO WILL CONFIRM THAT THEY DEFINITELY BELIEVE THE FLOOD IN WHAT IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST AND FROM A CITY FROM THE CITY DO WE DO WE HAVE ANY OR DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT OR IS IT DO WE NOT KNOW CAN I ASK A QUESTION MAYBE I'M STILL WRESTLING WITH FIRST OF ALL I AM SUPER APPRECIATIVE IS OF THE VIDEOS AND THE PICTURES AND ALL OF
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THAT BECAUSE CLEARLY THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF WATER.I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE DATES OF THAT.
WHAT KIND OF AN EVENT LED TO THOSE VIDEOS? SO WE ARE, WHAT EVENT THAT OCCURRED ON THE GROUND WAS COMPLETE? AND THAT'S NOT THE NORMAL, LIKE WHAT DOES A NORMAL RAIN LOOK LIKE THERE? EVEN WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WITH THIS, ARE WE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT SHOULD WE BE USING PLANO OR SHOULD WE BE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND? AND THEN SECONDARILY, WHAT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY AND WHAT IS CLEARLY NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BY THE WAY.
IF ANYTHING, WE NEED TO ASK A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY PLANS TO PURSUE? AND OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THAT, AS KENT HAS POINTED OUT, SOME OF IT COULD TAKE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO GO PURSUE THAT.
THAT'S WHERE I'M CONFUSED, THOUGH.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I DON'T COMPLETELY RECOMMEND A LOT OF...
YEAH, THIS IS MAINLY OPEN DISCUSSION.
GARY, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE MCCRARY CREEK ESTATES, ALL OF THEM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE HOUSES, THE GRADING OR WHATEVER IT IS, IS...
WE LIVE IN AND THEN OUR HOUSE THERE IS A CREEK AND WHAT WE HAVE NOTICED IS THAT WHEN IT'S EARLY AND THEN THERE'S A HUGE RAINFALL OFTEN.
WHERE ARE YOU? WHERE ARE YOU? A LITTLE RIGHT THERE.
WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER? SO I AM PADDLING TO...
7-2-0-0 SO, WHERE IS THE ENTRANCE? THE ENTRANCE IS THERE.
AND THEN, ON THE CRADLEY CREEK ROAD, IT'S A...
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SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE MAINTENANCE EASEMENTS FOR THAT DRAINAGE AND IT COLLAPSED AT CERTAIN POINT AND BUT THEY JUST USE THE EASEMENTS TO JUST DRIVE DOWN THERE AND CHECK MAYBE THEY CAN MAKE THOSE OPEN DITCHES SO, OKAY, SO WE, I MEAN, SO THAT'S A BACKUP POINT THAT YOU KNOW OF, AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE CANNIBALISTIC HUMANOID UNDERGROUND DWELLERS, YOU KNOW.SORRY, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT CHUD REFERENCED IT.
IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT, I MEAN, WHO, WHO, WHO MAINTAINED THAT, I MEAN, THAT CONNECTION POINT TO, LIKE, MURPHY? YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I SEE UP THERE, KENT, WHEN YOU HAD THAT STUDY, WHICH OF COURSE BOTHERS ME, BECAUSE IF IT'S A LIMIT TO WHERE THEY DID ANY STUDY, THEN THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING OR THEY'RE ASSUMING SOMETHING.
THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WENT IN THERE, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO HOUSES OR ANYTHING.
AND THAT MUCH WATER COMING OFF OF IT.
WHEN THEY PUT THOSE HOUSES, THEY HAD SILK FENCES UP.
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OF COURSE I KNOW IF WE PLANT MORE TREES, THAT WILL TAKE IN MORE WATER AND SHRUB.IS IT CONCRETE? NO, THAT'S CONCRETE.
IS THAT STORAGE AREA CONCRETE OR IS IT GRAVEL? YEAH.
SOME WATER GOES DOWN, BUT A LOT...
SO WHEN YOU GO BACK, SO LOOK AT THAT.
DO THEY DRAIN OVER TO THE EAST SOMEWHERE AS WELL? SO WE, YOU KNOW, THIS MAIN CREEK.
THESE SUBDIVISIONS, ARE THEY ALL DESIGNED TO BASICALLY DRAIN INTO THAT CREEK? SO WHAT PART OF...
DO WE KNOW THE DATES ON THESE STUDIES? I MEAN, HOW FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAN I THAT ARE DOING THIS.
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HAVE WE EVER LOOKED AT COMMUNITIES LIKE THAT HAVE ACREAGE TO SEE IF THEY FALL OR IF WE SOLELY FOCUSED ON CITIES PLANO AND THE METRO.SO WE FOLLOW PLANO'S GUIDELINES.
HAVE WE EVER LOOKED AT MORE ACREAGE DRIVEN COMMUNITIES LIKE LONE OAK, LUCAS, FAIRVIEW, ANY OF THOSE OTHER ONES? DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR DO WE KNOW? OKAY.
AND DO OUR ENGINEERS, WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT, DO THEY FOLLOW, DO THEY MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT OR TRULY AT A DRAINAGE STUDY OF THE GROUND? I WOULD IMAGINE PLANO'S DENSITY DO THEY HAVE RULES IN THAT GUIDE FOR OPEN DISHES? WHAT KIND OF DIFFERENCES WOULD YOU SAY? MONEY MAKES IT HARDER FOR YOU TO GO AND MAINTAIN I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT,
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CAN WE GET ANY, CAN WE GET ANY, LIKE, FREE ASSISTANCE FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL, TEXAS? ANYTHING, ANY PROGRAMS THEY HAVE THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF? BECAUSE WE NEED TO, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, MAYBE, YOU KNOW.EVALUATING SOME OF THIS SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE I MEAN I MEAN I DON'T KNOW I MEAN FOR EXAMPLE IF WE DO WE HAVE LIKE A DRAINAGE ENGINEERING PLAN HIBERNATING SOMEWHERE OKAY, SO THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WE COULD REVIEW, RIGHT? THE STUDY IS THAT ON CITY OWNED INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND STUDYING WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS THAT IS A SEWER SYSTEM.
SO HERE'S HOW I WOULD READ THAT.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S A BIG $10,000 OR $20,000, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT DOES NO GOOD IF YOU DON'T DO THE WHOLE THING, IF YOU DON'T CARRY IT ON ALL THE WAY FROM START TO END.
I THINK THE, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GETTING TO WITH ALL OF THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM A PLAN OF ACTION TYPE OF THING, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CITY IS ALREADY PLANNING TO TRY AND TO GET SOME STUDIES DONE IN ORDER TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT WE COULD DO TO RISEN.
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WHO NEEDS ENGINEERING TO DETERMINE WHERE THE ISSUES ARE.AGAIN, WHO'S GOING TO HIRE THE ENGINEER TO GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B TO SAY, OH, THIS IS WHAT HOMEOWNER C NEEDS TO DO, CITY LEVEL.
AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW.
AND THERE'S SOMEWHERE THERE THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THEM ANYMORE.
THE CITY'S NAME IS A RESIDENCE NAME IS, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SENSITIVITIES AROUND.
WE HAD DIFFERENT STANDARDS WHEN MOSS RIDGE WAS BUILT,
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AND I'M NOT SURE THE CITY CAN, I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD, I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T OWN THAT RESPONSIBILITY WHEN THE RULES BACK ON, AND THERE IS SOMETHING TO HOMEOWNER MAINTENANCE.AS WELL, BUT I DO THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOES MERIT US LOOKING AT IS WHETHER OR NOT KNOWING THE STANDARD WE SHOULD FOR...
CAN I SAY SOMETHING? I THINK THAT STUDY THAT IS GOING TO BE DONE, THEY CAN...
AND ARE WE 100% IN THE ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE AND WHERE THE WHAT...
WILL WE MONITOR THAT? IS IT PERFECT? LET ME ASK THE QUESTION.
IF THE HOUSES GET BUILT AND WE FIND THAT THE DRAINAGE ISN'T RIGHT, DO WE TEETH? ENGINEER.
TO THE ENGINEER OR THE DEVELOPER.
WHEN IS THE STUDY BEING DONE? IT'S BEING DONE IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUDGET FUNDING.
WE'RE ASKING DURING BUDGET FOR THE FUND.
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ARE YOU AWARE OF IT? THE STORM DRAIN THERE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, WHERE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S UNDERNEATH AND IF THAT'S GOT ANY KIND OF POTENTIAL BUILDUP THAT'S CAUSING IT TO BE LESS THAN USEFUL.DO WE KNOW WHERE, HOW MANY OF THOSE DO WE HAVE? THERE'S ONE SIMILAR, NOT THAT ONE, BUT A GREAT THAT'S AT LEWIS AND PARK.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.
WHAT IS THE KIND OF MAINTENANCE THAT ANYONE DOES? I MEAN, DO THEY GO IN THERE WITH A MACHINE TO TRY AND LOOK TO SEE IF IT'S ALL SILTED UP INSIDE OR WHAT? AND IT'S JUST NO GOOD OR ELSE THERE IS SOME KIND OF A PROBLEM.
NOTHING LIKE THAT PICTURE, NOTHING ON THERE.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE A RAIN THAT'S GOING TO WASH A LOT OF THAT DIRT DOWN INTO THE...
MAKES SENSE DO WE ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT ANY OTHER I DON'T KNOW WHAT DO YOU DO PLANO WHAT IS IT CALLED PLANO MUNICIPAL I THOUGHT YES THANK YOU DO WE THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT ANY OTHERS AND DOES ANYBODY WANT TO VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT SO SO I GUESS MIKE MY QUESTION ABOUT IS THAT WHICH I THINGS IN THERE THAT WE'RE ADHERING TO THAT HAVE LEAST BEEN
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DESIRABLE IMPACT ON A CITY LIKE OURS.IN OTHER WORDS, SHOULD WE ACTUALLY BE DOING IT WITH THIS? I MEAN, I'VE NEVER READ IT.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE...
THE OTHER THING IS WHATEVER'S, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THE SURFACE A LOT, 25 FEET.
DO WE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON IF IT WOULD BE TO THE IMPERVIOUS? I MEAN, IT COMES OFF, I THINK IT MOSTLY CATCHES IT FROM THE ROOFS, COMING OFF A ROOF.
I MEAN, IT CERTAINLY WOULD GET ROOF.
I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE A NEW BUILD, A NEW HOME.
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I MEAN, IT DOES ONE THING TO...AND I HAVE, BUT IS IT SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER TO GET LESS? THESE HOMES THAT ARE GETTING BUILT ARE HUGE AND THE ROOFS ARE.
SO, I GUESS WE NEED TO COME TO SOME KIND OF CONCLUSION TONIGHT, AND I'M ENGINEERING FIGURED OUT.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S A LOT.
IT IS A STUDY, THE DRAINAGE STUDY FOR, WHEN IS IT SCHEDULED? CAN WE ALWAYS...
TO LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE MANUAL OF A COUPLE OF CITIES TO FIGURE OUT IF WE SHOULD...
ON WHETHER WE SHOULD BE MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND CHANGE, THAT'S PROBABLY THE RECOMMENDATION I'D MAKE, RIGHT? SO DO WE WANT, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT, GARY, ON LIKE A DRAINAGE MANUAL REVIEW? IS THAT SOMETHING P&Z SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN? IS THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT REALLY DRAINAGE
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EXPERTS, SO I'M......DEALING FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH OTHER CITIES, WHAT WE'RE DOING, SO...
IT JUST BEGS TOO MANY QUESTIONS.
OUT IS TAKE IT TO THE ENGINEERING FIRM, GET A LITTLE BIT OF HIGH-LEVEL REVIEW ON SHOULD WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS? YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I DO.
WELL, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK, I MEAN, TONIGHT WAS REALLY INTENDED TO BE, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF WHAT WE DID.
WELL, I THINK I'M GOING TO CALL IT AND CLOSE
[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ]
FOR NOW. AND IF WE, I GUESS FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, WE CAN COME BACK AND SEE WHAT THE FEEDBACK IS ON THE STORM DRAINAGE OR THE DRAINAGE MANUAL. ANYTHING ELSE COMING UP THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF? I'M GOING TO SAY THIS RIGHT NOW. I WILL PROBABLY, NO FIRM PLANS YET, BUT I'M KIND OF PLANNING TO BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE OF WHEN I'M GONE. I'LL PROBABLY BE GONE FOR SIX WEEKS. OKAY, WELL, I GUESS, BUDDY. 39 MINUTES AFTER 6.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.