[CALL TO ORDER – Roll Call and Determination of a Quorum] [00:00:05] I HEREBY CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF PARK OF TEXAS TO ORDER. IT IS MARCH 10, 2026, AT 6 P.M. WE FIRST HAVE A WORKSHOP. MS. HALL, FIRST, [WORKSHOP (6:00 - 6:45 PM)] I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, DO I HAVE A QUORUM? YES, MADAM MAYOR, YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. NEXT, WE ARE GOING TO THE WORKSHOP. AND BEFORE WE PRESENT... BEGIN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL. THIS WORKSHOP ON CODE OF CONDUCT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WAS REQUESTED BY DARRELL SHORT, MR. SHARP IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE WITH US TODAY, AND MY QUESTION IS, DO Y'ALL WANT TO PROCEED WITHOUT HIM? OR DO WE WANT TO POSTPONE THIS WORKSHOP UNTIL SUCH TIME AS MR. SHARP CAN BE BACK, I THINK WE CAN MAKE, I THINK WE CAN MAKE SOME PROGRESS WITHOUT HIM HERE. OKAY. I SPOKE WITH MR. SHARP, AND HE KIND OF JUST CONVEYED THAT HE WAS WANTING US TO GET STARTED, SO I THINK HE WAS OKAY WITH US. GOING AHEAD AND HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS. OKAY. OKAY. IN YOUR PACKET, YOU FOUND QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT CODE OF CONDUCT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHOEVER DID THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CATHERINE, PATTY, OR DONELL, Y'ALL DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. THIS IS, I THOUGHT, THIS IS GREAT. AND AS Y'ALL ALL KNOW, THE CITY OF PARKER DOESN'T HAVE A CODE OF CONDUCT. WE NOT ONLY HAVE THE SAMPLE FROM THE CITY OF... PARIS AND THE CITY OF COPPELL. WE ALSO HAVE A PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF PARKER COMING. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. HAVING REVIEWED THOSE, IT'S PROBABLY MORE FOR CATHERINE BECAUSE WE DID THIS AS WELL WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND WE PULLED FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES. IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH PLAGIARISM, WITH BORROWING FROM OTHER ENTITIES? NO, THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH THAT. I THINK I GUESS THE COMMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE ABOUT IT IS. I THINK THOSE ARE USEFUL FOR CONCEPTS, AND THEN IF YOU EXPRESS IT AS CONCEPTS, THAT THEN I GO BACK AND WORK INTO THE FRAMEWORK. THANK YOU, SO I'M GUESSING YOU'RE THE ONE WHO DRAFTED THIS. I HAVE TWO COMMENTS. ONE IS, IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR. AT THE BEGINNING IT SAYS COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT THEN LATER IT TALKS ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR AS SEPARATE ENTITIES. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT. THE FIRST PART IS THAT THE CODE OF CONDUCT APPLIES TO THE MAYOR AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL PEOPLE. AND THE SECOND OF WHICH IS THAT DO WE WANT TO MAKE THIS FOR ALL OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, NOT JUST THE CITY COUNCIL? GOOD POINT. MS. BOGGS? I'D DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THIS PERTAINING TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND ANY APPOINTED GROUPS FOR THE CITY. YEP. AND MR. SHARP WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. I GUESS FOR ME, IN AGREEMENT WITH BILLY, IS THAT WE DELINEATE THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY, AND COUNCIL AS A BODY. AND WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS. CATHERINE, I'LL ASK YOU, IS THERE ANY PROBLEMS WITH ADDING THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONERS TO THIS? NO, MA'AM. GO AHEAD. READING THROUGH COPELS, ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKED ABOUT THEM IS THAT THEY HAD MANDATORY ETHICS TRAINING. I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE. ADDED TO ALL THE ADDITIONAL TRAININGS. THAT WHEN YOU FIRST GET ON COUNCIL, THAT YOU HAVE TO DO QUICKLY. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDED TO THIS. AND CATHERINE, IT'S BEEN A MINUTE, [00:05:02] BUT AREN'T WE REQUIRED TO DO ETHICS TRAINING FOR TML? OKAY. OKAY. NO, I AGREE. THE ETHICS TRAINING FOR TML IS LARGELY CHAPTER 171, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE FINANCIAL CONFLICTS. IF YOU DELINEATE SOMETHING IN YOUR CODE OF CONDUCT THAT IS BROADER THAN THAT, THEN IT COULD... THE TRAINING COULD ENCOMPASS SOMETHING BROADER THAN CHAPTER 171. GO AHEAD. ANOTHER ONE IN SECTION 02, LETTER F. IT TALKS ABOUT AVOIDING CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. SO I THINK WHAT THAT WAS PERTAINING TO WHEN I WAS READING THE OTHER THINGS WAS THAT IT WAS KIND OF PERTAINING TO FINANCIALS. SITUATIONS. DO WE NEED TO DEFINE THAT A LITTLE BETTER? BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A BIG, HUGE SECTION IN CAPELL'S ABOUT IT, AND YOU'VE REDUCED IT TO THAT ONE LITTLE PIECE, BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO REFER TO THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH US VOTING ON CERTAIN THINGS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE. I THINK IT WAS MORE PERTAINING TO THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS. AM I CORRECT? RIGHT. WHAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE IN OTHER CITIES IS THAT THEIR CONFLICTS OF INTEREST JUST TRACKS THE LANGUAGE OF CHAPTER 171, AND WE DIDN'T PUT THAT ALL BACK IN HERE. BUT WE CAN, OR WE COULD REFERENCE CHAPTER 171 AND SAY, ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD VIOLATE THIS PROVISION IF YOU VIOLATE CHAPTER 171. SO EITHER WAY. I WOULD SAY, JUST REFERENCE, IT WOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH. KEEPING IT SIMPLE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME LIKE, YOU KNOW THAT MORE IS COMING. I'M LOOKING AT MORE. IN SECTION J, NON-RETALIATION, WE TALK ABOUT THAT YOU CAN'T RETALIATE AGAINST A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC FOR REPORTING ALLEGED MISCONDUCT, BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT ANYWHERE ELSE. CAN A RESIDENT REALLY MAKE A COMPLAINT ABOUT CODE OF CONDUCT? OR WAS THIS PERTAINING TO MORE STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OTHER BOARDS, OR ARE WE NOW GOING TO INCLUDE THE PUBLIC? IT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT THE PUBLIC WAS MENTIONED, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO GET INTO THAT. I THOUGHT THIS HAD THIS, I WAS THINKING THAT. THIS ADDRESSED THREE DIFFERENT THINGS, TREATMENT OF OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, TREATMENT OF STAFF, AND TREATMENT OF THE PUBLIC. IT CAN BE WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS IT TO BE. SO IT CAN BE BROAD OR IT CAN BE NARROW. I'M WORRIED ABOUT IT COMING FROM THE PUBLIC BECAUSE YOU RAISED YOUR VOICE AT ME. AND NOW WE HAVE A COMPLAINT THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AND THAT COULD BE DISPUTED. IT'S HARD TO DISPUTE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, A PRIVATE CONVERSATION. IT'S IN E, THE CONDUCT IN PUBLIC MEETINGS AND TOWARD THE PUBLIC. BUT IF COUNSEL WANTS TO EDIT. THAT CERTAINLY CAN BE NARROWED. I SEE THAT THAT'S GOING IN FOR THE COUNCIL TO THE PUBLIC, BUT I DON'T SEE IT COMING THE OTHER WAY. SO DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT, OR IS THAT I'M GOOD WITH THIS? ANYONE ELSE HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT? SO, THOUGH IT SAYS THAT THERE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN FILE A COMPLAINT IS... A CITY EMPLOYEE, YOU DIDN'T, AS FAR AS I SEE, YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT A MEMBER OF PUBLIC COULD FILE A COMPLAINT. SO DOES THAT ADDRESS THAT ISSUE? I THINK THAT WE WOULD EITHER WANT TO CORRECT IT ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. EITHER PROVIDE AN AVENUE FOR COMPLAINTS OR REMOVE THAT PORTION OF IT. TO YOUR QUESTION, A LOT OF KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES FOR CITIES HAVE WITH THEIR COUNCIL MEETINGS TO ADDRESS THE BEHAVIOR OF THE PUBLIC IN THOSE. IT COULD BE BROUGHT INTO ONE DOCUMENT, SO THAT COULD BE INCLUDED HERE TOO AND [00:10:03] MAKE IT MORE OF A BROADER RULES OF PROCEDURE, OR IT COULD BE ADDRESSED. IS THERE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT CONFLICTS WITH WHERE YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP IN OUR PERSONNEL MANUAL? I THINK IT HAS TO BE READ FOR THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THIS AND DRAFTING IT, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE PERSONNEL POLICY KIND OF ENDS UP ON THAT. I DO THINK THERE'S SOME CROSSOVER, ESPECIALLY ON... THE REPORTING SIDE WITH EMPLOYEES, THEY DO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME VERY SPECIFIC THINGS IN THE POLICY MANUAL ON HOW THINGS REPORT. SINCE YOU'RE KIND OF DOING THE PERSONNEL MANUAL, HAVE YOU COMPARED THESE TWO? NO, AND THE DRAFT THAT I PROVIDED FOR YOU ALL, THERE ARE A LOT OF... THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS INHERENT IN IT. IN ADDITION TO WHAT Y'ALL HAVE BROUGHT UP, THERE'S, I THINK, ONE OF THE THINGS WRITTEN IN, WELL, YES, RIGHT THERE, IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CENSURE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO INCLUDE OR NOT. IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE, HERE'S A BUNCH OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT, AND THEN, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK TODAY, I CAN GO BACK AND CRAFT SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC. AND THEN IF, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE REPORTING IS HERE, WE CAN CRAFT THE PERSONNEL POLICIES TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT. SO MY QUESTION ON E WAS CONTRACTS IN PUBLIC MEETINGS AND TOWARD THE PUBLIC, AND THAT WE SHALL PROMOTE ORDERLY MEETINGS, LOVE THAT, TREAT THE PUBLIC FAIRLY AND RESPECTFULLY. THAT GETS A LITTLE GRAYER. BECAUSE WHAT IF I'M AT ALDI AND SOMEBODY COMES AND STARTS ATTACKING ME AND I'M LIKE, LOOK, I'M NOT ON DUTY RIGHT NOW OR WHATEVER, THEN CAN THEY THEN BRING FORWARD A COMPLAINT? SO IT'S LIKE, DEFINITELY, WHILE I'M SITTING HERE, I'M A COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT YOU HIT ME AT 9 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING ON SATURDAY MORNING IN ANOTHER CITY. WHAT AM I THEN? LIKE, DOES THAT LEAD TO A CODE OF CONDUCT ISSUE? IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU DEFINE IT. AND I KEEP SAYING THAT, BUT I'LL SAY THAT I HAVE DONE A NUMBER OF INVESTIGATIONS FOR OTHER CITY COUNCILS RELATED TO ETHICS COMPLAINTS FOR THEM. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN AN ETHICS POLICY THAT... IS SIMPLE TO ADMINISTER AND AND I STARTED WITH THIS PRETTY LIGHT DRAFTING. THEY GET SO INVOLVED AND THEN THEY START TO CONFLICT WITH OTHER PROVISIONS. BUT IT DOES HAVE TO SPELL THAT OUT. LIKE, IS IT JUST CONDUCT IN A MEETING, FOR EXAMPLE? AND YOU CAN NARROW IT TO JUST CONDUCT IN A MEETING, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT EASIER IN THAT REGARD. GO AHEAD. I MEAN, I DO THINK IF WE'RE ELECTED TO COUNCIL OR MAYOR OR ANY OTHER POSITION, I THINK WE ALWAYS HOLD THAT POSITION. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE ALWAYS ON DUTY IN TERMS OF THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE DO WHEN WE'RE HERE, BUT WE ALWAYS CARRY THAT RESPONSIBILITY WITH US TO BEHAVE IN THE RIGHT MANNER TO A CITIZEN WHO MIGHT APPROACH US ABOUT IT. SO I THINK WE'VE ALWAYS GOT A RESPONSIBILITY TO REACT APPROPRIATELY AND TACTFULLY. THAT SAID, I'M NOT SURE WHAT DROVE THE NEED FOR ALL OF THIS. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT DARRELL WAS THINKING WHEN HE WANTED TO HAVE US REVIEW THIS, AND WHAT DROVE THE NEED FOR IT? IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT OCCURRED, OR IS IT JUST GENERAL? I FEEL LIKE, AND THIS IS JUST MY FEELING AND MY IMPRESSION, THAT. THIS GOES BACK SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN WE ALL FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, AND IT WAS WHAT IS OUR CODE OF CONDOS, AND THAT WE'VE SEEN... YOU KNOW, VARYING, HEATED DISCUSSIONS AND BEHAVIORS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING? I GUESS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM DARRELL, HE WAS CONCERNED, AND CONCERNED MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT WORD, BUT HE WAS CONCERNED THAT COUNCIL TREATED EACH OTHER RESPECTFULLY, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY DISAGREE. WE DON'T GO YELLING AND SCREAMING. SCREAMING AND BUCKING EACH OTHER UPSIDE THE HEAD. HE WAS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREATMENT OF STAFF AND THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN OF HIS. SO OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I'VE SEEN SOME OF THAT THE PAST. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT WITH THIS COUNCIL, BUT I'VE SEEN IT CERTAINLY IN THE PAST. IN THE TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. I HOPE IT DOESN'T BEGIN TO OCCUR AGAIN. SO I GUESS THAT'S THE THING, TOO, IS I DON'T KNOW IF CODE OF CONDUCT, IF THIS WOULD COVER... [00:15:02] STAFF GETTING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. COUNCIL GOING OUT, YOU KNOW, IF OUR STAND'S LIKE, HEY, GRANT, I NEED THIS INFORMATION. I NEED YOU TO PULL THESE 37 REPORTS. OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING, A DIFFERENT DELINEATION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE PAST AS WELL. I THOUGHT THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN HERE. BUT I MAY BE THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE I'VE LOOKED AT RECENTLY. BUT, YES, THIS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO PUT THAT. I THINK SOME OF THAT IS IN THE PAST. WE HAVE HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT GOT UPSET WITH AN EMPLOYEE AND CHEERED THEM OUT FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT EVEN THEIR JOB. AND THERE WAS JUST A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT WENT IN THAT, AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. WHAT I WAS THINKING OF WAS IN 7, THIS SUBSECTION DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE CITY COUNCIL TO DIRECT OR SUPERVISE CITY EMPLOYEES. THAT COULD BE PHRASED DIFFERENTLY. IT SHOULD BE ANY SPECIFIC COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THIS IS PHRASED AS NOT AN AUTHORIZATION. I THINK IT NEEDS A MATCHING PROHIBITION SOMEPLACE ELSE FOR DIRECTION BY A SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER TO AN EMPLOYEE. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING OF, BUT I DON'T THINK IT REALLY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. GOOD POINT. MS. BALDWIN. I DEFINITELY THINK SEVEN SHOULD BE AWARDED TO DEAL WITH THIS AS INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE OUR COLLECTIVE AUTHORITY. WE HAVE NO INDIVIDUAL AUTHORITY TO DIRECT ANYONE. MS. BALDWIN. READING THROUGH THE EXAMPLES THAT WE HAD, I REALLY LIKE THIS, THAT OURS PROPOSED HERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMPLE THAN CAPEL'S. THAT WENT ON AND ON AND ON, AND IT JUST... LIKE IT WAS A CAN OF WORMS AND I. THAT WAS JUST TOO CONFUSING. SO I APPRECIATE THE SIMPLICITY OF THIS AND COVERING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH, AND AS CLEAR AS SIMPLE. SO I LIKE THIS FORMAT WAY BETTER THAN PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES, JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S COVERED. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START AND SHOULD WE NEED TO ADJUST LATER, WE CAN'T, ALWAYS CAN'T GO AHEAD. AND JUST BECAUSE 7 IS FOLLOWED BY H CENSURE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S LIKELY TO HAVE EVER HAPPENED, BUT I HAVE EXPERIENCED AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A NICE TOOL TO HAVE. INSTEAD OF JUST ME SCOLDING A SUDDENLY ABSENT COUNCIL MEMBER WHO STORMED OFF. IN PARKER'S HISTORY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CENSURES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE. HOWEVER, THERE'S BEEN NO GUIDELINES. AND THAT HAS BEEN PROBABLY BECAUSE IT'S, DO YOU DO A PRIVATE CENSURE? DO YOU DO A PUBLIC CENSURE? WHO DOES THE CENSURE? HOW IS IT? THOSE ARE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE WORKED OUT BEFORE THAT EVER HAPPENS AGAIN. HOPEFULLY IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. IT'S NICE TO HAVE THE TOOL AVAILABLE AND HOPE YOU NEVER HAVE TO USE IT. WE'RE ALL ADULTS. ARE YOU READING OVER THERE OR SLEEPING? YEAH, NO, I'M READING. I THINK THE ITEM I STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT IS THE ONE COLLEEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT US INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC OUTSIDE OF A MEETING. I'M CONCERNED THAT YOU END UP IN SOME HOSTILE SITUATION WITH A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. LET'S SAY... YOU HAVE A CAR ACCIDENT WITH SOMEBODY OR WHATEVER, AND IT GETS A LITTLE HEATED FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND THEN SOMEBODY FILES A COMPLAINT. SO I'M A LITTLE BIT SENSITIVE WITH THAT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT AT A PUBLIC FUNCTION, YOU KNOW, THE CITY FUNCTION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW. HAVE THIS APPLY, BUT I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THESE OUTSIDE SITUATIONS. KATHLEEN, CAN YOU GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT? I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO GO BACK. IN C, IT ACTUALLY HAS, COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL TREAT CITY EMPLOYEES WITH COURTESY AND RESPECT AND SHALL NOT DIRECT STAFF EXCEPT THROUGH LAWFUL COUNCIL ACTION. SO THAT LANGUAGE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PREVIOUSLY IS HERE. TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK THAT... THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO NARROW, LIKE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST OPEN-ENDED, TO JUST NARROW WHAT THIS COVER IS. IF IT ONLY COVERS THE BEHAVIOR OF COUNCIL MEMBERS TOWARDS CITY STAFF AND DURING OFFICIAL CITY EVENTS, I [00:20:01] COULD PHRASE IT MORE ARTFULLY THAN THAT. I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN IN TYPE BETTER THAN I TALK. SO MY QUESTION TO THAT WOULD BE, SO, YOU KNOW, BUDDY GETS INTO IT OVER THE NEIGHBOR'S DOG, THAT'S RUNNING RAMPANT, WHATEVER, AND THEY FILE A COMPLAINT THAT HE WAS. INAPPROPRIATE, WHATEVER. WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? NOW THERE'S A COMPLAINT FILED WITH THE CITY. DOES HE JUST GET SPANKED? OR IS THERE AN INVESTIGATION? OR DO WE DETERMINE THAT SERIOUSLY? WHATEVER. RIGHT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SPELL OUT IN DETAIL, I THINK. AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I JUST WORKED ON THIS LAST WEEK. BUT OBVIOUSLY, MY RECOLLECTION OF WHAT'S IN HERE IS NOT INCREDIBLY ACCURATE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAIL ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION, BUT ALLOWS FOR AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATOR. AND SO TYPICALLY, WHAT YOU SEE IN THESE TYPES OF THINGS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY TO DO AN INVESTIGATION. THIS ALSO HAS THE PATH OF COMING STRAIGHT TO COUNSEL. SO MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT IT'S WRITTEN TO BE EVALUATED BY WHOEVER RECEIVES THE REPORT. WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO SAY, DOES THIS NEED MORE INFORMATION, OR DOES THIS HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT IT CAN COME TO COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISION? AND IF IT DOESN'T SPELL IT OUT THAT WAY, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE EXPAND IT TO. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT PUBLIC COMPLAINTS. I THINK IT CAN GET OUT OF HAND. I THINK IT COULD BE A BIG PROBLEM. I THINK THEY HAVE RETRIBUTION BY NOT VOTING US BACK IN IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH US. SO THEY DO HAVE AN AVENUE, AN OUTLET. THEY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. IT'S A SUPER SLOW. AND I WILL SAY, WITH US HAVING AN ELECTION EVERY SINGLE YEAR, WHERE HALF OF THIS BODY IS BEING ELECTED, IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT THE CAMPAIGNING BECOMES COMPLAINTS AND NOT DEBATE. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YOU'RE BEING AWFUL QUIET, SIR. NO, MAYOR. WHAT I'M HEARING, MA'AM, IS GIVING US ENOUGH CLARITY, I THINK, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CATHERINE'S DRAFT. AND TIGHTEN THIS UP A LITTLE BIT AND BRING IT BACK AT A FUTURE WORKSHOP. OKAY. BEFORE WE DO THAT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT WOULD LIKE FOR CATHERINE TO LOOK AT? AND PERHAPS MR. BARRON? WELL, IT JUST... THIS IS A THING. SO, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE INITIAL WORDING, IT SAYS A CITY EMPLOYEE IS THE PERSON WHO SUBMITS THE COMPLAINT. AND I'M JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE A CLEAR DIRECTION HERE BECAUSE I SEE THREE DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE, CITY EMPLOYEES. TWO, THERE'S SOME MENTION IN HERE ON COUNCIL MEMBER, ON COUNCIL MEMBER BEHAVIOR. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT A CITY EMPLOYEE WOULD NECESSARILY BE THE ONE TO FILE THE COMPLAINT IN THAT CASE. AND THEN WE GOT THE WHOLE PUBLIC SITUATION, AND DO WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO FILE COMPLAINTS? THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT IS, OF COURSE, IT CAN JUST BE TURNED INTO, BE WEAPONIZED, AND PEOPLE JUST DO IT. BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE YOU, SO I'M JUST GOING TO FILE COMPLAINTS. I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. I WAS ACCUSED DURING THE NOTICE COMMITTEE THAT I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN VOTING, AND SO THEY WERE CLAIMING ETHICS VIOLATIONS ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND I CHECKED WITH COUNSEL, AND OUR ATTORNEY SAID THAT'S NOT THE CASE. SO I'M VERY WORRIED THAT THIS BECOMES A BATTLE OVER THINGS LIKE THAT, WITH THE PUBLIC, MAKING COMPLAINTS LIKE THAT. CATHERINE, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT IN WORDING? YES, I'M DRAFTING NOW. SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, AND I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH TO GO BACK AND WORK ON ANOTHER DRAFT. BUT YES, TO YOUR EARLIER POINT, CERTAINLY. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE INCLUDED OR ADDRESSED IN THE CODE OF CONDUCT, I'M HAPPY TO RECEIVE THAT THOUGHT, TOO. ANY FURTHER? AT THIS TIME. SORRY, ONE MORE THING. THE PUBLIC ALSO HAVE, THEY CAN GO TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND GET RULINGS ON THINGS THAT THEY THINK THAT THERE IS A BREAKING OF ETHICS TO. SO I THINK THEY DO HAVE AN AVENUE TO GO THROUGH [00:25:02] PROPER CHANNELS IF THEY NEED TO. HERE. MR. TRILLGOOD. BACK TO THE POINT THAT... COUNCIL MEMBER BOGDAN WAS MAKING A MINUTE AGO, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO CLARIFY THIS CONFLICT OF INTEREST THING A LITTLE MORE, BECAUSE YOU COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. ON NEARLY ANYTHING THAT WE PASS, WHETHER IT'S SIGNS OR NOISE, OR PETS, OR FENCES, OR ANYTHING ELSE. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN AFFECT ANY OF US ON HERE, AND WHAT WE ALL WANT TO DO IS MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. FOR THE BEST OF THE WHOLE OF PARKER, AND I BELIEVE... THE COUNCIL WE HAVE NOW WILL DO THAT, AND I REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN ANYBODY MAKING PERSONAL DECISIONS IN THE TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY. ANYWAY, WHETHER THE CURRENT COUNCIL OR THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL. SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED SO THAT IT DOESN'T END UP GETTING TURNED INTO A WEAPON. GO AHEAD. I WILL JUST FOLLOW IT UP WITH, I'VE HEARD THINGS ABOUT DARYL BEING INVOLVED IN LEWIS LANE, AND... WE'RE EIGHT SQUARE MILES. WE'RE ALL NEIGHBORS. WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE'RE ALL RESIDENTS. YEAH. THE ONLY ONE THAT READS EGREGIOUSLY TO ME WAS, AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS KEMP OR WHERE, AND CATHERINE AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, THAT THE WAY THE MAYOR HANDLED THE TAX VOTE, AND THEN IT BECAME A BIG BLOW-UP, LIKE, SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT, IT HAS TO BE CALLED, BLAH, AND, YEAH, SO THEN IT BECAME A WEAPONIZED... THING, AND I THINK WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS, AS SOMEBODY WANTS TO CALL YOU OUT, COME DO IT IN THE PUBLIC FORMAT. THERE'S PEOPLE WATCHING ONLINE, PROBABLY, UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW YOU, YOU ALSO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SAY, I THINK THIS WAS INAPPROPRIATE. OKAY, OKAY, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FROM ANYONE, WHAT WE WILL DO IS ASK CATHERINE TO TAKE OUR DRAFT AND MAKE SOME EDITS AND BRING IT BACK TO US AT OUR NEXT WORKSHOP, AT WHICH TIME WE WILL REVIEW IT. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, CATHERINE, YOU SAID IF WE HAD ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS AFTER THIS CONVERSATION AND WE MULL IT OVER. OR DARYL COMES BACK AND LISTENS, HE CAN REACH OUT TO YOU AS WELL WITH SOME COMMENTS. SURE, AND I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE MAYOR. WHETHER THIS IS A SUBSEQUENT WORKSHOP OR WHETHER IT JUST BECOMES AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION ON THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AGENDA. BASICALLY, WHEN YOU NOTIFY US THAT YOU'RE READY, THEN WE'LL SET IT AS APPROPRIATE, WHETHER IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM OR WHETHER IT WOULD BE A WORKSHOP. IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? OKAY. THAT BEING THE CASE, WE ARE ADJOURNED FROM THE WORKSHOP. IT IS 6.28 P.M. AND COUNCIL MEETING WILL START AT 7. I HEREBY CALL THE [CALL TO ORDER – Roll Call and Determination of a Quorum (7:00 PM)] PARKER CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. IT IS MARCH 10, 2026. AT 7 P.M. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK MS. HALL, DO I HAVE A FORM? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND I WILL ASK, HOW ABOUT LINDA AND WILSON, WILL YOU DO THE AMERICAN PLEDGE? AND WHO'S THAT OVER THERE? GRANT, WILL YOU DO THE TEXAS PLEDGE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. I CAN'T EVEN DO [PUBLIC COMMENTS] [00:30:11] THIS ANYMORE. OKAY, NEXT WE COME TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND I DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS CORDS. THE FIRST ONE IS FROM LUCY ESTABROOK. HELLO, NEIGHBORS. I'M THE ANNOYING LUCY ESTABROOK FROM 4407 CHURCH LANE. THE VERY FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE, FRUGAL, ANNOYING LUCY ESTABROOK. I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT PARKER SHOULD SPEND $60,000 ON A ROAD SURVEY. SOME OF THE WORK THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING COMMITTEE DID INCLUDES EIGHT PAGES OF RATINGS. OF PARKER'S ROADS. THE RATINGS RANGE FROM A LOW OF 20 IN WARBLE SHAPE TO 90 IN TERRIFIC SHAPE. THEY NOTE IF ASPHALT OR CONCRETE, ROAD LENGTH, ALL SORTS OF THINGS. THREE OF THE ROADS HAVE BEEN APPROVED SINCE THE RATINGS WERE ASSIGNED. I'M TOLD OTHER CITIES BUY A ROAD SURVEY EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS. OTHER CITIES HAVE COMMERCIAL TAX BUSINESS. AND CAN AFFORD MANY MORE SURVEYS AND AMENITIES THAN PARKER CAN. PARKER DEPENDS BASICALLY ENTIRELY ON RESIDENTIAL TAXES. RESIDENTIAL TAXES MUST STRETCH TO COVER POLICE, FIRE, ADMINISTRATION, AND INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING WATER PUMPS, LINES AND TOWERS, ROADS, AND MANY OTHER THINGS. TO KEEP TAXES FROM SOARING, PARKER MUST BE EXTREMELY... EXTREMELY FRUGAL WHERE WE SPEND. $60,000 SPENT HERE, AND THERE IS $60,000 NEEDED FOR DAILY EXPENSES. AND ALL THE THINGS WE NEED, INCLUDING AN ENGINEERING BUILDING, MORE SPACE FOR CITY ADMINISTRATION, RELOCATING VERY OLD WATER LINES, UPDATING ROADS, AND MANY OTHER THINGS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. OKAY, THANK YOU, LUCY. MARCUS ADELIUS TO THE CITY AND COMMUNITY CONCERNS. PARKER IS RELATIVELY CHANGING, WITH NEW INSTANCES OF ACTIVITIES AND PROBLEMS, MAKING OUR CITY THE NUMBER TWO SAFEST CITY. AND WE NEED TO GET BACK TO BEING THE NUMBER ONE SAFEST CITY. WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE AFFORDABLE POWER INSTALLED IN OUR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND FULL TRANSPARENCY FROM ALL BROKERS AT 100% CAPACITY, WHILE WE STILL CAN BE UNDER QUESTION. ASIDE FROM THOSE IMPORTANT TWO CONCERNS, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER WAY TO BRING MORE REVENUES EFFICIENTLY BY PROMOTING THE SALES AND USAGE TAX POLICIES. THANK YOU. AND REJECT THE AD VALOREM POLICY FOR IMPORTANT CITY PROJECTS, LEAVING PROPERTY TAXES UNTOUCHED AND CRUSHING RESIDENTS FINANCIALLY FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL FINANCIAL MATTERS. EVEN IF THOSE PRIVATE FINANCIAL MATTERS ARE TIED WITH MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS TO ALL FOUR PORTIONS OF PROPERTY TAX RESPONSIBILITY. WE DON'T NEED MONEY GOING INTO OTHER CITIES. INTO THEIR CITY BUDGETS OUTSIDE OF PARKER. IT NEEDS TO STAY IN PARKER. MORE EVENTS AND MORE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS FROM HOME. ON A BRIEF NOTE, FOR THE 2551 PLATTE FACING HOAG DRIVE, WE NEED MAN-MADE PONDS AND A FUTURE PRESERVE TO STOP THE BUILDUP AT MAXWELL CREEK. AND DEVELOPERS CAN CREATE PUBLIC PARKS. ON ALL AVAILABLE ETJS WE HAVE IN PARKER. AND LET'S PROMOTE AND WORK WITH SOMEONE THAT'S APPROPRIATE, WORK WITH SOMETHING THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR OUR COUNTRY, CITY. AN EXPANDED VERSION OF THIS HAS BEEN SENT TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. MAKE PARKER UNIQUELY COUNTRY AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARCUS. MS. NELSON? HI EVERYONE, MY NAME IS LINDA NELSON, I LIVE [00:35:01] AT 6802 CORINTH CHAPEL ROAD. IN PARKER VILLAGE, OFF OF THE CONTINUING UNDER CONSTRUCTION DELAHAYE ROAD. I HAVE NOT BROUGHT ANY COMMENTS TO BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD, SO MY COMMENTS WILL BE VERBAL, ALTHOUGH YOU DO HAVE A HANDOUT. I HAVE TWO COMPONENTS TO MY COMMENTS. ONE IS, I WANTED TO COMMEND COUNSEL AND WHOEVER WORKED ON THE MOST RECENT COMMUNICATION. I KNOW THAT IT IS DIFFICULT ALL THE TIME, THE BALANCING BETWEEN WHAT YOU DISCUSS IN PUBLIC SESSION AND WHAT YOU DO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, ON RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, ON HOW YOU TALKED ABOUT WHAT YOU COULD OR COULDN'T TALK ABOUT IN PUBLIC SESSION. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD COMMUNICATION. I SUGGEST YOU DO MORE OF THOSE TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHY. THINGS GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO THERE'S VERY GOOD REASONS FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK JUST SHARING, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAVING MORE PUBLIC EDUCATION, SO WE'RE MORE INFORMED AND SO PEOPLE JUST DON'T WONDER ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THE LAST COMMUNICATION THERE, I THOUGHT, WAS EXCELLENT, SO THAT'S MY FIRST COMMENT. THE SECOND COMMENT IS, I DO HAVE THIS HANDOUT THAT EVERYONE RECEIVED, AND THERE'S EXTRA ONES THERE. ON MARCH 21ST, THE SMITHSONIAN IS BRINGING ITS TRAVELING EXHIBIT FROM ITS WASHINGTON-BASED D.C. MUSEUM ON THE NATIVE AMERICAN. THEY WILL BE FOCUSING ON NATIVE AMERICAN VETERANS. NATIVE AMERICANS SERVE IN A HIGHER PROPORTION IN THE MILITARY SERVICES THROUGH ALL THE WARS, WORLD WAR I, WORLD WAR II, KOREA, DESPITE NOT ACTUALLY HAVING BEEN RECOGNIZED AS U.S. CITIZENS UNTIL 1923. THE SMITHSONIAN'S EXHIBIT WILL BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH STORIES OF FOUR LOCAL NATIVE AMERICAN VETERANS, OF WHICH MY LATE HUSBAND IS ONE OF THOSE. SO YOU CAN COME OUT AND SEE THAT EXHIBIT. IT OPENS AT 1 O'CLOCK ON SATURDAY, MARCH 21ST, AT THE IRVING ART MUSEUM. SO I HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LINDA. OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS I HAVE. ON THAT, WE DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT THEY WILL BE [2. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 11, 2026, 5 PM - PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION (P&R)] ON THE PLATT. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT. THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 11TH IS HEREBY CANCELED DUE TO AN EMERGENCY BY THE CHAIRMAN. AND IT WILL BE RESCHEDULED FOR MARCH 18TH AT 5 P.M. WE HAVE A PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 12TH AT 4 P.M. WE HAVE THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE IN THE MAY 2ND ELECTION IS APRIL 2ND. IF YOU'RE NOT A REGISTERED VOTER IN THE CITY OF PARKER, PLEASE REGISTER. IF YOU'VE MOVED HERE RECENTLY FROM ANOTHER PLACE, PLEASE REGISTER TO VOTE IN THE CITY OF PARKER. ON FRIDAY, APRIL 3RD, THAT'S GOOD FRIDAY. THE CITY IS CLOSED. THAT IS A HOLIDAY. CANDIDATES NIGHT IS APRIL 14TH AT 7PM AT VICTORY CHURCH. ALL THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE IN OUR LOCAL, MUNICIPAL ELECTION WILL BE THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. ON SATURDAY, APRIL 25TH, 2026, FROM 10 UNTIL 2, IS NASHVILLE PRESCRIPTION DRUG TAKE BACK DAY, WHICH ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DROP DOWN OUR BILL TO THE POLICE STATION, HAND IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, EXPIRED OR NOT, DRUGS THAT YOU'RE NO LONGER GOING TO TAKE, AND THEY WILL TAKE THAT. ARE WE ALL TAKING SHARPIES THIS TIME? OKAY. WE WILL CHECK ON WHETHER SHARPIES ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN. AND THEN OUR GENERAL ELECTION IS ON SATURDAY, MAY 2ND. NEXT, WE WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE ARE TEN ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE [CONSENT AGENDA] ANYONE ON COUNCIL THAT WOULD LIKE ANY ITEM MOVED OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? MS. BOGDAN? I'D JUST LIKE, FOR THE RECORD, TO NOTE THAT ALL OF YOU [00:40:02] ON COUNCIL HAVE AN EMAIL. THAT I SENT TO THE CITY SECRETARY WITH A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS, AND THEY'RE ALL LISTED, AND YOU'RE GIVEN THOSE ON YOUR DAIS OVER HERE. SO THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN CORRECTED AND AMENDED. THEY'RE MINOR THINGS. MR. PILGRIM? MADAM MAYOR, I HAD ONE EDIT TO MAKE IN THE SEPTEMBER 30TH ONE, SO WE CAN EITHER LEAVE IT ON, I CAN JUST TELL YOU ABOUT THIS, AND WE CAN LEAVE IT IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, OR WE CAN PULL IT IN EITHER ONE. IT'S FINE. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? IT'S IN THE UPDATE ON THE TCEQ UPDATE, WHICH I USUALLY GIVE, FOR SEPTEMBER, THE 30TH. AND IT SAYS THAT I REPORTED THERE WOULD BE A PRELIMINARY HEARING IN TRAVIS COUNTY IN OCTOBER. I THINK WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID OR INTENDED TO SAY, I MAY HAVE MISSPOKEN. I DIDN'T GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE RECORDING. MAYBE I MISSPOKE. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MY FAULT. WHAT I INTENDED TO SAY WAS THE PLAINTIFF'S INITIAL BRIEFS WERE DUE OCTOBER, THE 15TH IN TRAVIS COUNTY. NOT THAT THERE WAS A HEARING IN TRAVIS COUNTY. AND THEN ALSO, IT SAYS THAT THERE WERE FOUR GROUPS FORMED IN THE MUD, AND IN THE FOUR GROUPS IT LISTED, MURPHY AND PARKER, AND THEN TWO OTHERS. THERE WERE FOUR INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANT GROUPS, IN ADDITION TO THE CITY OF PARKER AND THE CITY OF MURPHY. THERE WEREN'T FOUR, INCLUDING PARKER AND MURPHY. THERE WERE FOUR IN ADDITION TO. AND I'LL GIVE THOSE CHANGES MORE SPECIFICALLY TO PATTY IF SHE WANTS SOME DETAILS ON THOSE. WITH THAT CHANGE, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. MR. BARRETT. THIS IS VERY, VERY MINOR. ON THE NOVEMBER 18TH, THERE'S AN ACRONYM IN THERE USED FAI. ANOTHER COUNCIL PERSON AND I TOOK A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT THAT THAT MEANT FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. COULD WE PLEASE SPELL THAT OUT? OKAY. WE WILL TRY TO BE BETTER ABOUT USING THINGS THAT... OR NOT COMMON SHOULDN'T DO THAT. THANK YOU FOR NOTICING. OKAY, OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 3 THROUGH 12 AS AMENDED. A SECOND, THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER BOGDAN AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM PILGRIM TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY AGAINST? OKAY, MOTION CARRIES, 4-0. I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHARP IS NOT PRESENT WITH US TONIGHT DUE TO A FAMILY EMERGENCY. HOPEFULLY HE WILL BE BACK TO JOIN US VERY SOON. NOW WE WILL MOVE TO THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS. AND I WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT ITEM NUMBER 13 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. THAT IS, ANY CONSIDERATION OR ACTION ON RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS POST OAK ESTATES PERIMETER, PLAT. THAT HAS BEEN RESOLVED OR WITHDRAWN. WE WILL GO [14. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, LLC ACCESS FROM FM 2551 PRELIMINARY PLAT.] TO ITEM NUMBER 14. CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS LLC, ACCESS FROM FM 2551 PRELIMINARY PLATTE. AT THIS TIME, KENT, ARE YOU GOING TO LEAD US ALL? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. MAYOR, COUNCIL, SO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE ACCESS FROM 2551 PRELIMINARY PLATTE. THIS IS CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THE RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS LLC. PRELIMINARY PLAT. THIS INFORMATION IS FOR A LOT 1X, 2X, BLOCK 1, 1.433 ACRES. IN THE PHILIP ANDERSON SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 10 OF THE CITY OF PARKER, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS. THE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST IS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A STREET THAT IS GOING TO SERVE A FUTURE SUBDIVISION LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL CONTEXT ON THE PLAT SUBMISSION HERE. THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2025. AT THAT POINT, THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR DENIAL DUE TO WHAT WERE PERCEIVED AS NUMEROUS DEFICIENCIES. THE PLOT WAS THEN WITHDRAWN BY THE DEVELOPER BEFORE MAKING ITS WAY TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION. A RESUBMISSION TOOK PLACE ON JANUARY 22, 2026. AND THEN, ON FEBRUARY 12TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. JUST LAST WEEK, STAFF WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPERS ENGINEERING TEAM. THAT WAS THE WEEK OF MARCH 2, 2026. WE DISCUSSED POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS [00:45:01] TO... OVERCOME SOME OF THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES. AND THEN, ON MARCH 5TH, WE DID RECEIVE A MINOR REVISION TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. THAT SHOWS MORE OF A CURVED ENTRY-EXIT SOLUTION TO HELP GUIDE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT ON THE RIGHT-HAND LANE GOING SOUTH ON FM 2551. SO THIS WOULD, IN THEORY, PREVENT CARS FROM SKIPPING OVER TO DO A DIRECTIONAL LANE CHANGE GOING NORTH. SO I'LL PRESENT SOME MAPS TO YOU HERE IN A SECOND. SO THIS IS JUST A VICINITY MAP. I'VE GOT MY SLIDES A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER. I JUST WANT TO SHOW EVERYBODY THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND HOW THAT LINES UP TO HOGUE ROAD. SO, I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE DEVELOPER IS WORKING WITH TXDOT AND HAS SUBMITTED APPROXIMATELY FIVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR CONNECTION TO 2551. ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS INCLUDES A DEDICATED TURN LANE ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE OF 2551. THAT WOULD BE IN MORE LINE WITH SOME OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. AND JUST GENERAL BEST... BEST PRACTICES FOR TRAFFIC MITIGATION. SO I'LL CONTINUE HERE. SO HERE IS THE ORIGINAL PLOT SUBMISSION THAT WAS REFERRED TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE GOT TWO STRAIGHT LINE ACCESS POINTS, ONE FOR ENTRY AND EXIT. AND THEN THIS WAS THE REVISION THAT WAS SUBMITTED ON THURSDAY. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S SOME CURVING NATURE TO BOTH OF THOSE ACCESS POINTS TO DIVERT TRAFFIC, GUIDE TRAFFIC BETTER. AND THEN THIS, FOR EVERYBODY'S AWARENESS, IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSAL THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO TXDOT. SO A LEFT-HAND TURN LANE GOING NORTH, AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES HERE TO GUIDE TRAFFIC INTO THE SUBDIVISION. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL MAP. THIS IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS IT STANDS TODAY IN THE COUNTY. AND JUST FOR A SUMMARY ON THIS ITEM, SO COUNCIL, THIS IS A MINISTERIAL ITEM HERE. YOU CAN EITHER APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY. YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF DISCRETION HERE. IT HAS TO BE A CONDITION THAT'S SPELLED OUT IN STATE LAW AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU TONIGHT IS TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT, WITH THE CONDITION THAT ALL OF THE ITEMS FROM THE ENGINEERING LETTER DATED FEBRUARY 11, 2026 BE FULLY RESOLVED. AND THAT THE APPLICANT SUCCESSFULLY OBTAINS AN ACCESS PERMIT FROM TXDOT BASED ON AN ACCESS SOLUTION THAT APPROPRIATELY MITIGATES THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. THAT WILL LIKELY COME FROM THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED WRITE-IN, WRITE-OUT. OKAY. I'VE GOT TWO CARDS. I BELIEVE THESE ARE FROM MR. VAN GERE, THE ATTORNEY FOR RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, IF I'M CORRECT ON THAT. YES, MA'AM. MISTY VENTURA, 9406 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75218, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER. I SUBMITTED TO THE MAYOR AND EACH COUNCIL MEMBER A LETTER THAT CONFIRMS THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE CITY'S PROFESSIONAL TEAM. BASED ON THOSE COMMENTS. WE BELIEVE THIS PLAT SATISFIES ALL THE... COMMENTS INCLUDING THE CITY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND AS WELL AS STATE LAW. WE WOULD ASK THAT THIS LETTER BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY'S RECORDS AND INCLUDED IN THE MEETING MINUTES. WE SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, SPECIFICALLY THE CONDITION THAT WE OBTAIN BEFORE SUBMITTING A FINAL PLAT APPLICATION IN THE TXDOT APPROVAL OF A PERMIT. WITH THAT, OUR PROFESSIONAL TEAM IS HERE, BOTH OUR ENGINEER AND OUR PROJECT MANAGER, AND WE STAND FOR QUESTIONS TO THE EXTENT THE COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GIROUX AT THIS TIME? YEAH, I GUESS I'LL HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS. I'LL START OFF WITH THE ONE ABOUT THE TWO DIFFERENT FLATS THAT ARE SHOWN UP HERE. SO KENT WAS SHOWING ONE, OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR WAS SHOWING ONE THAT HAD THE CUTOUT FOR A LEFT-TURN ENTRY THAT WE GOT FROM TXDOT. WHY DID Y'ALL NOT SUBMIT THAT TO US? WHY DID WE HAVE TO GET THAT FROM TXDOT? WE WERE WORKING WITH TXDOT, AND THEY ASKED US FOR SPECIFIC INFORMATION, AND WE PROVIDED IT TO THEM. THERE WAS NO INTENT TO HAVE A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY. WE WERE WAITING FOR FEEDBACK ON THOSE SUBMITTALS, AND ONCE WE RECEIVED THAT FEEDBACK, WHICH CLEARLY Y'ALL GOT BEFORE US, SO COUNT OUR BLESSINGS, WE NOW KNOW THE RESULTS, BUT... WE WERE HAPPY TO SHARE THE INFORMATION, SO THERE IS NO INTENT TO HIDE [00:50:02] INFORMATION OR PROVIDE A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY. BUT AS WE WORK WITH TXDOT, WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR REQUESTS, AS WELL AS THE CITY'S REQUESTS. WELL, I GUESS, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU DID PRESENT IT TO TXDOT AND DIDN'T PRESENT IT TO US AS AN OPTION. SO THE SPECIFIC... THAT THAT Y'ALL PRESENTED TO PLANNING AND ZONING FOR APPROVAL IS NOT THAT ONE. AND THE SPECIFIC PLAT THAT WAS IN OUR PACKET FOR APPROVAL WAS NOT THAT ONE THAT YOU PRESENTED TO TXDOT. IT WAS THIS ONE, OR THAT REVISED VERSION RIGHT THERE, THAT SHOWS THE SLIGHT CURVES ON IT. BUT EVEN ON THAT ONE, SO ANYWAY, BACK TO MY POINT, I DON'T THINK WE GOT THE INFORMATION AS EARLY AS WE COULD HAVE, AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE GIVEN. FOR THE PLAT THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE DOES NOT INCLUDE WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED THE TEXT ON. POINT NUMBER ONE. POINT NUMBER TWO, I CAN'T TELL FROM THIS HOW MANY LANES IN AND HOW MANY LANES OUT YOU'RE PLANNING THERE. SO, CASEY OR JASON, BEFORE JASON ANSWERS THE LANE QUESTION, LET ME POINT OUT THAT THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT. AND SO THE INFORMATION THAT WAS CONSIDERED WAS A PRELIMINARY DESIGN THAT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE INFORMED BY INPUT FROM TXDOT AND FROM THE CITY'S PROFESSIONAL TEAM. WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE CITY'S COMMENTS AND WE WILL ADDRESS TXDOT'S COMMENTS. AND THEN THIS APPLICATION WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU WITH A FINAL PLAT THAT INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. SO, YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE ITERATIVE APPROACH. IS THE NECESSARY PROCESS THAT WE ALWAYS FOLLOW WHEN WORKING WITH CITIES AND TXDOT. TO MOVE FROM THE INITIAL APPLICATION THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS TO P&Z, ADDRESSING COMMENTS, AND THEN BRINGING THAT PLAQUE TO YOU. AND FROM THE MOMENT THAT WE GET THE INFORMATION, WE ATTEMPT TO SHARE IT, BUT IT IS AN ITERATIVE APPROACH, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE SATISFIED THE STATE LAW. AND WE HAVE SATISFIED THE CITY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, AND WE HAVE SATISFIED THE CITY'S TEAM, AND WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, ASKING YOU TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THIS PLAT, CONDITIONED ON A SATISFYING TXDOT. ONCE WE HAVE SATISFIED TXDOT, WE WILL BE BACK BEFORE THIS COMMUNITY, FIRST AT PNZ AND THEN HERE BEFORE COUNCIL. WITH A FINAL PLAT THAT INCORPORATES ALL OF THOSE DETAILS. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO JASON TO ANSWER. OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE FOLLOW-UP COMMENT TO THAT. BASED ON SOME TRAINING THAT WE JUST RECEIVED THIS WEEK ABOUT FLATS, AND PART OF THAT TRAINING SEEMED TO INDICATE. THERE'S REALLY NO SUCH THING AS A PRELIMINARY PLAT IN TERMS OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED. YOU SHOULD PRESENT A FINAL PLAT FOR APPROVAL. I UNDERSTAND THE ITERATIVE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH CITY OFFICIALS TO TRY TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, GET SOME FEEDBACK, YOU REVISE IT, AND THERE CAN BE... THERE CAN BE SEVERAL BACK AND FORTHS AND SEVERAL ITERATIONS TO TRY TO GET TO THE FINAL PLAT THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE APPROVED, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED AS WHAT YOU JUST DEFINED AS A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR APPROVAL IS STILL VERY PRELIMINARY, AND IT STILL DIDN'T INCLUDE INFORMATION THAT YOU DID ALREADY HAVE IN YOUR POSSESSION. SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. I WOULD CITE TO THE CITY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT PROVIDES THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY TO SUBMIT FIRST A PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THEN A FINAL PLAT. AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION, WE SATISFIED ALL OF THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WANTS TO PROVE IS THE GUIDELINE UPON WHICH THE FINAL PLAT WILL BE CONSIDERED. WE ALSO ALL KNOW THAT THE FINAL PLAT REQUIRES CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. AND A CONDITION PRECEDENT TO DRAWING THOSE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS IS GETTING GUIDANCE FROM TXDOT REGARDING THE CONNECTIVITY. WHEN WE MET WITH TXDOT, THEY ASKED THE ENGINEERING TEAM TO PROVIDE SOME ALTERNATIVES, WHICH WERE DONE, AND YOU FAIRLY POINT OUT, WE DID NOT. AT THE SAME TIME WE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION TO TXDOT, PROVIDE IT TO PARKER BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING ON GUIDANCE FROM TXDOT. I THINK... NOW WE ALL HAVE THAT GUIDANCE FROM TXDOT, AND THE NEXT STEP, UPON THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT, WOULD BE FOR US TO INCORPORATE THAT GUIDANCE AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH A FINAL PLAT APPLICATION. JASON, DO YOU WANT TO ASK? YES, THANK YOU, MISTY. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. JASON STEPHEN, WITH LJ ENGINEERING. IN THE REVISED SUBMISSION, WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE, IT IS ONE LANE IN AND ONE LANE OUT. OUT. IN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT SUBSEQUENTLY CAME, WE HAVE A NORTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE THAT ENTERS THE SITE, A SOUTHBOUND MOTION INTO THE SITE AS WELL, AND THEN IT'S ONE LANE OUT. SO THAT IS THE CONFIGURATION THAT TXDOT... YEAH, YEAH, IT GOES ALL THE WAY. THERE'S NO [00:55:01] IMMEDIATE MERGE THERE? NO, THERE'S TWO LANES ALL THE WAY, YEAH, ON THE NORTH SIDE. OH, GO AHEAD. MR. MANN, DID YOU SAY THAT THEY SUBMITTED FIVE DIFFERENT PLATS, PRELIMINARY PLATS FOR THE...SECTION TO TXDOT? YES, THEY SUBMITTED FIVE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES OPTIONS TO TXDOT FOR CONSIDERATION. DO THEY HAVE RULES ON, IS THIS THE FINAL RULING THAT SAID YES TO THIS? FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE EMAIL EXCHANGE THAT THEY HAVE INDICATED TO LJA THAT THIS VERSION, OPTION NUMBER FIVE, IS CONCEPTUALLY APPROVED. I DON'T THINK THAT'S OFFICIALLY APPROVED, BUT THEY SAID THAT THIS WOULD WORK. WELL, FOR THE RECORD, I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS. PICTURE BEFORE. I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS PLOT BEFORE, LIKE THE DESIGN. PNZ HASN'T SEEN THE DESIGN. I HAVE NO ENGINEERING LETTER THAT SAYS THAT IT'S BEEN SIGNED OFF ON FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS. SO HOW CAN WE RULE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH ALL OF THESE OPENINGS ON OUR END? AS A POINT OF INFORMATION, LET ME VOLUNTEER. WHAT IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS AN EXHIBIT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO, I THINK, TEXT. PROVIDED IT BACK, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, JASON, CORRECT ME, IS THERE ARE NO PLATS BEFORE TXDOT. TXDOT DOES NOT CONSIDER PLATS. WHAT'S BEFORE? TXDOT IS A PERMIT APPLICATION, AND THE CONDITION PRECEDENT TO SUBMITTING THE FORMAL PERMIT APPLICATION WAS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH TXDOT ABOUT THEIR PREFERENCES ON THE CONNECTIVITY. THAT'S THE FIVE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NOT FIVE PLATS. THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE PLAT. THERE'S A ONE PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH IS BEFORE THIS COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT WILL THEN PROGRESS TOWARDS A FINAL PLAT ONCE ALL THIS NEGOTIATION WITH TXDOT IS COMPLETE AND CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ARE PROVIDED. SO THIS ISN'T FINAL, AND THIS ISN'T PART OF THE PLAT THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED. THAT'S THE NEXT STEP AFTER THE PLAT IS APPROVED. RIGHT, BUT THE PLAT THAT'S PERFORMING IS NOT YOUR PLAN. ACCORDING TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN BY TXDOT, YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT TO THIS OTHER PLAN, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS HAS TO BE, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T EVEN WHAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING, BECAUSE YOU JUST TOLD ME THAT THAT'S THE OTHER PLAN, IS THE ONE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO... WHAT WE'RE ASKING OF THIS COUNCIL THIS EVENING IS THAT YOU APPROVE A PLAT CONDITIONED ON TXDOT'S APPROVAL OF A PERMIT THAT MAKES THESE REVISIONS, AND WE'RE ASKING THAT... BECAUSE THIS PLAT, AS SUBMITTED, COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW AND THE CITY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND HAS ADDRESSED ALL OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL TEAM'S COMMENTS. NOT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD. YOU JUST TOLD US THAT. BECAUSE IT'S PRELIMINARY AND THERE ARE NO CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. YOU ARE CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. IT IS PRELIMINARY, AND THE NEXT STEP INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. GO AHEAD. KENT SAID THAT FIVE DIFFERENT PLANS HAD BEEN PRESENTED. I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PLAT AND A CONCEPT PLAN, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T SUBMIT PLATS TO TXDOT. YOU SUBMITTED A CONCEPT. WE DIDN'T GET ANY OF THOSE FIVE CONCEPTS THAT WERE PRESENTED, DID WE? NO, SIR, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU DID. I THINK IN GOOD FAITH, WE SHOULD AT LEAST SEE THE SAME CONCEPTS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO TXDOT SO THAT WE CAN GIVE CONSIDERATION TO THEM AS WELL. THERE MAY BE SOME THAT WE THINK WERE... I UNDERSTAND TXDOT MAY BE THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THIS. TXDOT USUALLY GETS SOME INPUT FROM THE CITIES, THOUGH, WHEN THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT CENTER MEDIAN CUTS AND MAJOR POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR SUBDIVISIONS AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT. SO APPARENTLY, FROM WHAT I'M LEARNING, AT THE LAST MINUTE, THE NIGHT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING THIS DECISION, IS THAT THERE WERE FIVE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO TXDOT. AT THE MOST, THERE WERE TWO THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US. THE INITIAL ONE THAT HAD STRAIGHT LANES IN AND STRAIGHT LANES OUT, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE THAT HAD THESE CURVATURES RIGHT HERE, BUT NONE OF THE OTHERS WERE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE TWO FLATS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US ARE PART OF THE FIVE CONCEPTS, OR IF THOSE TWO ARE TWO OF THE FIVE THAT WENT TO TXDOT, OR IF THE FIVE THAT WENT TO TXDOT ARE FIVE IN ADDITION TO THOSE TWO. SO WE'RE MISSING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION JUST TO PROCESS THIS. I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. THE INFORMATION PRESENTED TO TXDOT IS WHAT TXDOT REQUIRED. THE INFORMATION THAT WE [01:00:01] PRESENTED TO PARKER IS WHAT PARKER REQUIRED. AND ALL WE'RE ASKING THIS EVENING IS THAT YOU APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT TXDOT, AS YOU POINT OUT, THE AUTHORITY THAT IS OBLIGATED TO MAKE THE DECISION ON THE DRIVEWAY PERMIT. APPROVAL PLAT CONDITIONED UPON TXDOT'S AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE DRIVEWAY PERMIT. WE HAVE SATISFIED ALL OF THE CITY'S REGULATIONS, ALL OF THE CITY'S COMMENTS, AND STATE LAW BASED ON... ON THAT, I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PLAN AND ARE WE DONE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS? ARE THERE MORE COMMENTS TO BE HEARD? I DON'T KNOW IF CASEY, ARE YOU GOING TO WANT TO SPEAK IN ADDITION TO THIS, CASEY FOR ABOUT A SPEAKER CARD IN CASE YOU WANTED TO VISIT WITH HIM? HE'S THE PROJECT MANAGER SO HE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE DIRT AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM. BUT CASEY, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR WERE YOU JUST STANDING FOR QUESTIONS? I SAID THAT YOU HAD A QUESTION. OKAY. YES, I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX PROCESS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR YOUR CITY ATTORNEY, IT MIGHT BE PRUDENT TO RECESS [EXECUTIVE SESSION START TO FINISH (1 of 2)] INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THAT. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL ADVICE. YES. 7.33 P.M. WE WILL RECONVENE [RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING (Part 1 of 2)] AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT IS 8.41 P.M. AND WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DISCUSSION ON ITEM 14, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESTORE THE GRASSLAND LLC ACCESS. FROM FN 2551 PRELIMINARY PLOT. MR. BARRETT. CAN WE CALL MR. KIRKHOFF UP TO THE PODIUM? OKAY. MR. KIRKHOFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP? SO, ON THE PRELIMINARY PLOT ITSELF, THERE'S A FEMA FLOOD LINE THAT CLEARLY... IS ON THE PROPERTY. THIS LETTER WE ARE HANDED TODAY FROM MISTY VENTURA CLAIMS THAT THE FLOODPLAIN IS SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET WEST OF THE FEMA LINE AND WITHIN COLLIN COUNTY. WOULD YOU CARE TO COMMENT? YES, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE EFFECTIVE MAP OF FEMA TODAY, THE FLOODPLAIN LINE, IS GENERALLY ACROSS THIS ROADWAY. I BELIEVE THAT WHAT SHE'S INDICATING IS AFTER THEIR FLOOD STUDY AND AFTER THEIR CONSTRUCTION, AND THEIR LOAN WAS ACCEPTED BY FEMA AT THAT POINT. POINT FEMA WILL RECOGNIZE IT FURTHER WEST OF THE PROJECT SITE. BUT AS WE SAID TODAY, THE EFFECTIVE ONE IS SHOWN ON THE PROPERTY. SO, I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR APPROVAL IN THIS CASE? I CAN'T, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW TO VOTE. THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION. TYPICALLY, IT WAS ALL WITHIN CITY LIMITS. YOU KNOW? THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE FLOOD STUDY AND PROVIDE A MORE DIRECT COMMENT TO THE ACCURACY OF THAT STATEMENT. IN THIS CASE, THAT FLOODPLAIN IS WITHIN THE COUNTY, AND THE COUNTY IS REVIEWING THAT FLOOD STUDY AND WILL ULTIMATELY APPROVE OR DENY THAT FLOOD STUDY. AND SUBSEQUENT LOAN WORK. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KIRCHHOFF WHILE HE'S UP HERE? OKAY, THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, I JUST WOULD LIKE A CLARIFICATION FROM CATHERINE ON OUR CHOICES OF APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY, AND WHAT MINISTERIAL REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE. I'M JUST GOING TO READ A COUPLE OF PROVISIONS OUT OF THE STATUTE. THIS COMES FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 212. THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY, WHICH IS THE COUNCIL, RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING PLOTS... MUST APPROVE A PLAT OR REPLAT THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE PREPARED UNDER THE SUBCHAPTER AND THAT SATISFIES THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SUBCHAPTER. NOW, WHEN WE SAY THIS SUBCHAPTER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SECTION OF 212 AND THAT GENERALLY ALSO LOOPS IN OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. THERE'S ANOTHER PROVISION THAT SAYS IF A MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING PLATS FAILS OR REFUSES TO APPROVE A [01:05:01] PLAT THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SUBCHAPTER. THE OWNER OF THE TRACT THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THE PLAT MAY BRING AN ACTION IN A DISTRICT COURT IN A COUNTY IN WHICH THE TRACT IS LOCATED. FOR A WRIT OF MANDAMUS TO COMPEL THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE PLAT BY ISSUING TO THE OWNER APPLICABLE APPROVAL DOCUMENTATION. AND THEY HAVE, THERE'S NO REASONABLE, UNDER THE STATUTE, ABILITY TO DENY? I WOULD LOOK TO... WE CAN'T ENCRE FOR WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING UNDER CHAPTER 212, BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, WE REGARD THIS AS... A MINISTERIAL DUTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MS. BOGDEN? STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WITH CONDITIONS. CAN WE ASK THE ENGINEER WHICH CONDITIONS? SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE GRABBED YOU WHILE YOU WERE UP HERE, BUT CAN YOU IDENTIFY THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH SHARING WITH US? YES, I CLEARLY AGREE WITH THE CONDITION REGARDING THE ACCESS PERMIT FROM TXDOT. WE GOT A SUBMITTAL LATE LAST WEEK AND THEN NEW INFORMATION TODAY, SO I THINK IT'S UNCLEAR WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE. SO I THINK THAT'S CLEARLY A CONDITION OF THE ACCESS PERMIT FROM TXDOT BEING OBTAINED. AND THEN, ONCE THAT CONFIGURATION WITH REGARDS TO THAT ACCESS PERMIT IS DETERMINED, ALL ASSOCIATED ENGINEERING ITEMS, STUDIES, PLANS, OR WHATNOT, BE REVISED AND SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW. BECAUSE IT WILL CHANGE SOME ASPECTS TO THOSE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO, TAX NOT BE INTERESTED IN. THANK YOU. I'M READY FOR A MOTION. GO OVER IN HERE. ALL RIGHT. WITH FRUSTRATION, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ACCESS FROM FM 2551 PRELIMINARY PLAT, WITH THE CONDITIONS BEING THAT ALL ITEMS LISTED ON THE ENGINEERING LETTER DATED 2-11-2026 BE FULLY RESOLVED, AND THAT THE APPLICANT SUCCESSFULLY OBTAINS AN ACCESS PERMIT. FROM TXDOT, BASED ON AN ACCESS SOLUTION THAT APPROPRIATELY MITIGATES THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. THAT WILL LIKELY RESULT FROM THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED WRITE-IN, WRITE-OUT APPROACH BEFORE THE SUBMISSION OF A FINAL PLAT. AND YOU WANT TO STATE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE? AND IS THAT INCLUDED, UPDATED ENGINEERING? NO, THAT'S NOT BECAUSE 11.211 DID NOT ENCOMPASS THE REVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED SINCE, AND WE KNOW WE'RE COMING. OKAY, SO TO INCLUDE ENGINEERING, NTIA, UPDATED. AND REVIEW OKAY, IS THERE A SECOND NOT WANTING TO DO THIS? UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO. I'LL SECOND, OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HALBERT AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BARON. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM MAYOR. YES. YEAH, I WANT TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT, THE DEVELOPER HERE, MAY THINK THEY'RE CUTE IN THIS PROCESS. BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A MINISTERIAL DUTY TO APPROVE THIS, BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU, FOR CREDIBILITY AND FOR GOODWILL GOING FORWARD ON NEGOTIATION, THIS ISN'T THE WAY TO DO IT. IT'S NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. THIS IS LIKE WHEN DON HUFFINES LAUGHED AT ME WHEN I... I QUESTIONED HIM ABOUT CALLING THIS RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, AND HE SAID, I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF A CUTE NAME. NOBODY OUT HERE THINKS IT'S A CUTE NAME. NOBODY OUT HERE THINKS IT'S FUNNY. NOBODY OUT HERE THINKS ANY OF THIS IS A JOKE. WE LIVE OUT HERE WHILE HE LIVES IN HIS HOUSE IN HIGHLAND PARK AND JUST WANTS TO MAKE MONEY OUT HERE. SO THIS ISN'T A CUTE PROCESS, AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS FUNNY. I THINK THE PROCESS WOULD HAVE WORKED A LOT BETTER IF Y'ALL HAD COME TO US WITH THE PLOT THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD. NOT ONE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD, AND WITH WHAT YOU INTEND TO DO, NOT JUST SOMETHING TO GET SOME APPROVAL SO THAT YOU CAN MODIFY IT IN THE PROCESS AND CHANGE IT. BECAUSE THIS IS THE WRONG WAY TO BUILD GOODWILL WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE CITY, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WITH THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE OUT HERE. AND IT DOES NOTHING TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO DO MORE, TO COOPERATE WITH YOU. IT MAKES EVERYTHING, MAKES US DO EVERYTHING TO WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO STOP YOU. NOW, WILL WE STILL WORK IN GOOD FAITH? WE PROBABLY WILL, BECAUSE WE'RE PRETTY GOOD-FAITH PEOPLE OUT HERE. BUT IT'S ABOUT TIME THE DEVELOPER STARTS WORKING IN GOOD FAITH, TOO. AND THIS ISN'T IT. SHOWING OPTIONS TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T GET TO SEE. AND BUILDING A ROAD TO NOWHERE, SUBMITTING A PLAT FOR A ROAD TO NOWHERE. WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY WHAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE ON THE PROPERTY IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THINGS. OKAY. MY APPROACH IS, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THAT'S NOT DISCUSSION? IT WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE WANTING US TO APPROVE. OKAY. WELL, ANY [01:10:01] FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING WITH CONDITIONS THE ACCESS PLOT FROM 2551, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OKAY, ANYBODY OPPOSED? ARE YOU NOT VOTING? I MOVE TO STAND. OKAY, WE HAVE A VOTE. I HAVE ONE ABSTENTION, MAYO PROTEIN PILGRIM, AND THREE, RELUCTANTLY, IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE PLANT. PLANT PASSES. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE ARE [15. CONSIDERATION AND/OR AN APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. 909 UPDATING THE ANNEXATION/BOUNDARY MAP.] NOW READY TO GO ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 15. CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 909, UPDATING THE ANNEXATION BOUNDARY MAP. AND I BELIEVE, KENT, THIS HAS YOUR NAME ON IT. YES, MAYOR, COUNCIL, SO TONIGHT BEFORE YOU IS A REVISED ANNEXATION BOUNDARY MAP. THIS IS BASED OFF OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT ANNEXATIONS THAT OCCURRED GOING BACK TO AT LEAST 2023. OUR ENGINEERING FIRM, BCH, HAS PREPARED THIS ON YOUR BEHALF. THIS IS A PROCESS THAT IS TYPICAL HERE IN THE CITY OF PARKER. WE'VE GOT A FEW DIFFERENT ADDRESSES THAT ARE NOT ENCOMPASSED YET INTO THE BOUNDARY MAP, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S RECTIFIED AND THAT WE SEND THIS TO ALL THE RESPECTIVE ENTITIES. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MATTIN? DOES THIS INCLUDE THE... LUCAS AND LEWIS ROAD ANNEXATIONS AND DE-ANNEXATIONS? IT IS NOT. THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED AS YET. SO WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE THIS AGAIN. OKAY, CAN YOU PULL THAT UP? OKAY. SO DO WE KNOW WHEN THIS WAS LAST APPROVED? I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2022. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT MONTH. IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC YOU'D LIKE ME TO ZOOM INTO? WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND WHERE THESE PARTICULAR ANNEXATIONS WERE. SO YOU'VE GOT ONE, KINGS CROSSING NO. 6. YOU'VE GOT ONE, WHICH IS MCCURRY MEADOWS. AND I CAN COME DOWN AND READ THE LIST OF OTHER KINGS. SORRY, THIS TRACKER PAD IS NOT WORKING WITH ME TONIGHT. THERE WE GO. CRAIG, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU UPDATED ON HERE? VERY GOOD. CHASE CRAWFORD, BHC. WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT IT? WE WERE JUST TRYING TO LOCATE THE ANNEXATIONS DONE SINCE 2022. SO I THINK KINGS CROSSING PHASE 6 IS ON THE NORTH SIDE. YEAH, 5 AND 6 IS THERE. WE'VE GOT MCCURRY MEADOWS, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A 50-ACRE ONE IN 2023, WHICH IS NUMBER 9. LOOKING FOR 98, 89, AND 90. OKAY, SO 89 IS KINGSWOOD, WHICH IS GOING TO GO IN FRONT OF PLANNING AND ZONING SOON. THIS SHOULD BE UP TO DATE, EXCEPT FOR THE LUCAS. YES, MA'AM, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, SO THERE'S THREE KINGS, AND THEN WHERE'S 88? IS THAT THE TWO ACRE TRAP? OH, IT IS... 38 ACRES. 38 ACRES, THAT'S, IT'S SIZABLE, THAT'S WHY. WHAT? 88? OH, IT'S [01:15:28] WHITESTONE. OKAY. OKAY. I'M SATISFIED ALL THE PLACES THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED SINCE 2022. I REMEMBER BEING ANNEXED. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS MAP. HOLD ON, I'VE GOT TO SCROLL BACK 200 PAGES IN THIS DOCUMENT. YOU CAN USE THE HYPERLINKS. YEAH. OKAY, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 909, UPDATING THE ANNEXATION SLASH BOUNDARY MAP. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BARRON. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BARRON TO APPROVE ORBITZ 909. WE HAVE A SECOND BY MS. BOGDEN. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL OFF THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 4-0. THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT, [16. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2026- 888 AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE BIRKHOFF, HENDRICKS, AND CARTER, LLP. FOR A PAVEMENT CONDITION STUDY.] WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 16, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION. ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-888, AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE BURCKHOFF, HENDRICKS, AND CARTER LLP FOR A PAVEMENT CONDITION STUDY. MR. MARTIN, ARE YOU GOING TO LEAD US OFF, OR IS MR. CROOK OFF? I HAD A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS I CAN CERTAINLY GET YOU STARTED WITH. IT'S BASICALLY A SUMMARY OF THE AGENDA PACK AT SUMMARY ATOM. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO LEAD OFF WITH THAT, OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST HOP INTO DISCUSSION WITH MR. CROOK? COUNCIL, IT'S YOUR PLEASURE. I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE SUMMARY FOR THE AUDIENCE. SURE. SO I DID NOT PREPARE ANY SLIDES FOR THIS ONE, BUT JUST AS AN OVERVIEW, THE CITY DOES PREPARE A PCI, PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS. IT'S INFORMATIVE TO OUR CAPITAL PLANNING. THE LAST ONE WAS PERFORMED IN 2021. WE'VE ENGAGED WITH CRAIG AND HIS TEAM TO DO THIS AGAIN, BUT WE'RE DOING THIS FOR A COUPLE DIFFERENT REASONS. THIS GO-ROUND. SO NOT ONLY IS IT GOING TO INFORM OUR STREET CONDITION. MATRIX THAT WE HAVE. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A REPORT THAT COMES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL THAT'S GOING TO THROW IN THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. THE APPROACH TO THE METHODOLOGY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING IS, AS WE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THROUGH LIDAR, AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE CAPTURING MILLIONS OF DATA POINTS. AND THAT INFORMATION IS GOING TO FEED INTO AN EVENTUAL GIS SYSTEM THAT THE CITY CAN UTILIZE FOR STAFF, FOR PLANNING PURPOSES. AND WE CAN UTILIZE THAT DATA FOR FOR OUR DRAINAGE STUDIES. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THE FRONT END. BUT IT'S GOING TO INFORM A LOT OF FUTURE DECISION-MAKING. THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR AN HOURLY BASIS. THERE IS A NOT-TO-EXCEED AMOUNT OF $60,000. CRAIG AND HIS TEAM HAVE ALREADY STEPPED OFF A LITTLE BIT AND STARTED DOING SOME, I GUESS, PRELIMINARY WORK ON THIS. I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT IN THE CONTRACT, THE TYPICAL LANGUAGE SAYS THAT A CITY IS THE OWNER OF THE INFORMATION AFTER THE FACT. HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, [01:20:02] IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BECAUSE WHAT CRAIG IS DOING IS ESSENTIALLY... A NOVEL, PROPRIETARY SYSTEM, SOME OF THOSE LANGUAGE POINTS NEED TO BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT. IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS PROPERLY PROTECTED. AND MR. KIRCHHOFF'S DATA IS ALSO PROTECTED. SO TO SPEAK TO THAT LAST POINT, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AT THE BEGINNING, WE ARE DOING THAT, WE DO WANT TO OWN THE DATA, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT IT IN THE CONTRACT, THE CITY WILL ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS. THE REASON FOR THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH SOME PIRS AND WHATNOT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU... YOUR DATA IN YOUR SYSTEM IS SECURE AND IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO ANYBODY. AND THEIR BROTHER WHO WANTS TO GET IT AND DO WHATEVER WITH IT. ADDITIONALLY, ON THAT, WE HAVE DEVELOPED SOME INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THAT IS NOT PUBLIC, YOU CAN'T GO BUY IT OUT OF A BOX ON A SOFTWARE, FIND IT ONLINE. WE'VE KIND OF DEVELOPED OUR OWN MACHINE LEARNING ALGORITHMS. Y'ALL ARE GUINEA PIGS, SO WE'RE DOING IT WITH Y'ALL. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ON IT, BUT FOR THAT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SHARED OUT WITH THE PUBLIC AND GIVEN TO EVERYBODY. AND THEIR BROTHER. BUT CONTRACTUALLY, WE'LL MAKE SURE THE CITY ALWAYS HAS ACCESS TO IT AND CAN USE IT. TO THE CITY'S BENEFIT, BUT IT'S MEANT FOR Y'ALL. IT'S NOT MEANT FOR EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO DO ANYTHING IN PARKER THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY OR NOT. IT'S INTENDED JUST A TOOL FOR THE CITY, AND THE CITY ONLY, AND TO BE UTILIZED IN THAT MANNER. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE DATA PORTION. SO I'LL START WITH THE PRICE. SO BASICALLY, WHAT I DID IS I DETERMINED, KIND OF WHAT Y'ALL WOULD REASONABLY PAY. THE NORMAL, TRADITIONAL METHOD OF DOING THE PCI IS YOU HIRE A COMPANY, AND THEY PUT SOME SENSORS ON A TRUCK, THEY DRIVE AROUND, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KIND OF GET A SPREADSHEET OF... ALL THE DIFFERENT ROADS AND NUMBERS. WE'LL STILL GIVE YOU THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN A MANNER THAT GETS YOU A WHOLE LOT MORE DATA THAT YOU CAN DO A LOT WITH. SO INSTEAD OF JUST DOING THE SAME THING AND YOU GET THE SAME THING, WELL, YOU'LL STILL GET THE SAME THING, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A WHOLE LOT MORE. AND ACTUALLY, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED. THIS IS GOING TO BE QUITE AN UNDERTAKING. WE'VE ACTUALLY CREATED OUR OWN ALGORITHMS AND ADJUSTED SOME OTHERS. SO ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE'RE DOING, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT LIDAR IS? SO WE'RE USING LIDAR, AND FOR REFERENCE, WE DID THIS OVER THE ELEVATED TANK SITE. SO WE JUST DID LIDAR ON TWO ACRES AROUND THE NEW PROPOSED ELEVATED TANK SITE AND TOOK 60 MILLION SPOT SHOTS ON JUST THOSE TWO ACRES. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE VOLUME OF DATA, ACCURATE DATA, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITHIN ALL PUBLIC ROADWAY. BY USING THE LIDAR AND HIGH-RESOLUTION CAMERA AND MEETING THE STAFF, WE'RE DEFINING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A CRACK, HOW LONG IS A CRACK, WHAT'S A POTHOLE, WHAT'S GRADE SEPARATION. SO WE'RE DEFINING WHAT ROADWAY FAILURES ARE, AND WITH THE COMBINATION OF THE HIGH-RESOLUTION CAMERA AND THE LIDAR... THE MACHINE LEARNING IS FINDING ALL OF THESE THINGS. AND EVERY 1.1 MILES, ALL YOUR ROADWAYS ARE GOING TO BE GRADED AND CATEGORIZED WITH THAT. WE CAN GO BACK AND CHANGE THE CRITERIA, THE DEFINITIONS ANYTIME YOU WANT, AND IT AUTOMATICALLY WILL UPDATE. FURTHERMORE, YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS TO AN ONLINE SYSTEM WHERE YOU CAN GO SEE IT YOURSELF. IT'S JUST NOT ME GIVING YOU A MAP AND TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. SO YOU CAN SEE IT YOURSELF AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT'S FOUND AND SEE WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE. AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO KIND OF A HYDROLOGY REPORT WHERE IT'S NOT A DRAINAGE DESIGN. BUT ESSENTIALLY, IT'S GOING TO DUMP WATER ON THE ROADWAYS AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING DRAINS OFF. SO IF THERE'S PONDING WATER, POOLING WATER, OR FIELDS THAT MANNER, IT'LL FIND ALL THOSE. AND IT'LL SHOW UP ON THIS MAP THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS, LOOK AT DIFFERENT ROADS, HEY, WHY IS THIS ONE RATED AS IT IS. SO WE'RE DEVELOPING THAT FOR Y'ALL. AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED, AND ACTUALLY THIS MORNING, MY GUY WAS SUPER EXCITED. HE COULDN'T WAIT TO TELL ME. WE ACTUALLY GOT ABOUT 93% ACCURACY RATE. WE STARTED THIS FROM SCRATCH. IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY AWESOME, BUT BEYOND THAT, NOW WE HAVE A VAST AMOUNT OF DATA FOR YOUR CITY. WE KNOW WHERE A LOT OF YOUR WATER LINES ARE. WE KNOW WHERE A LOT OF YOUR SEWER LINES ARE. AND SO OVER TIME, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO INCORPORATE A LOT OF THESE THINGS. SO FOR GARY AND STAFF, AS THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, AND IT'S A LIVING, BREATHING THING. IT'LL NEVER BE PERFECT. ASK GARY. HE FINDS STUFF HE DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD EVERY WEEK, AND HE'S BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. BUT AS WE LEARN MORE, WE INCORPORATE IT. SO, TO BE PERFECTLY TRANSPARENT, I'M GOING TO LOSE MY BUTT MONEY-WISE ON THIS PROJECT, BUT THAT'S OKAY. I THINK IT'S WORTH IT FOR YOU. I THINK THE TOOL AND THE VALUE IT'S GOING TO BRING LONG-TERM TO Y'ALL IS AMAZING, AND WE'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS WITH THAT. AND I THINK LONG-TERM IT WILL SPEED UP Y'ALL'S PROJECTS AS WELL. SO IF WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA ALREADY, A QUICK EXAMPLE, WE'RE DOING PROJECTS SOUTH OF TOWN. IT'S ABOUT 7,000 FEET OF WATERLINE. TRADITIONAL WAY, THE TRADITIONAL SURVEY CREW, WHICH WE STILL HAVE, YOU SEND OUT RIGHT-OF-ENTRY LETTERS, YOU WAIT A COUPLE WEEKS, YOU HEAR NOTHING BACK. YOU SEND OUT ANOTHER ONE SAYING, IF I DON'T HEAR BACK WITHIN 10 DAYS, WE CAN GO DO IT ANYWAYS. SO WE'RE SIX WEEKS IN AND OUR FIELD SURVEY CREW HASN'T EVEN GOT OUT THERE YET, RIGHT? SO IN THIS METHOD, I CAN DO 10 TIMES AS MUCH WORK IN 10% OF THE TIME. SO IT'S 1,000 TIMES BY THAT METRIC. AND SO IN THIS CASE, I GOT THE EXECUTED CONTRACT ON A MONDAY. WE FLEW THE ROUTE ON TUESDAY. IT TOOK ME TWO AND A HALF DAYS TO PROCESS. AND BY THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, I WAS ALREADY STARTING ALIGNMENTS. SO IN A WEEK IN, I WAS WHERE I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN TWO MONTHS IN TRADITIONAL PROJECTS. SO NOW YOU'LL HAVE THIS DATA IN-HOUSE [01:25:01] AND OCCASIONALLY BE REFRESHED, BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY EXCITING FOR THE CITY AND GOING TO BE A GREAT TOOL. SO THE INTENDED USE OF THIS CONTRACT IS THE PCI, WHICH YOU'LL GET AND YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS TO IT, BUT NOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF DATA ABOUT YOUR CITY THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE FOR A LONG TIME GOING FORWARD. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WE WILL BE THE OWNERS OF THE PCI. ANY REPORTS THAT ARE PRESENTED AND PREPARED TO THE CITY, WE WILL OWN. IT'S JUST THE DATA POINTS. THAT ARE GOING TO BE CAPTURED, THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROPRIETARY. IN ALL FAIRNESS, YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO HOST THIS MODEL BECAUSE THE VOLUME OF DATA IS INSANE. YOU CAN'T OPEN IT ON A NORMAL DAY. COMPUTER WHEN YOU'RE HOSTING, BECAUSE IT'S HUGE. SO, QUESTION, WHEN WAS THE LAST PCI DONE? IN 2021. I DO NOT HAVE THE SPECIFIC MONTH ON THAT. SO WE'RE ON THE FIVE-YEAR? YES, MA'AM. WHAT WOULD A NORMAL, LIKE, IF WE WERE TO REPEAT THE PCI THAT WE DID LAST TIME, WHAT'S THE COST ON THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS IN 2021. FOR REFERENCE SAKE, I LIVE IN MELISSA, AND THEY JUST HIRED THE GUYS A MONTH AGO TO DO THE SAME TRADITIONAL METHOD FOR THEM, AND THERE'S A $74,000. OKAY. I WILL MENTION THAT SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I HEARD FROM GARY AND HIS CREW SPENT, WHAT, ONE TO TWO WEEKS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CRAIG OUT THERE ASSESSING THE ROADS. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, GARY? IN EACH ROAD, YES. IN 2021. SO STAFF TIME AS WELL. THAT'S A LOT OF STAFF. YEAH. MR. MAYOR FOR TIM PILGRIM. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOTH GARY AND CRAIG ON WHAT ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF HOW THIS MIGHT HELP YOU, NOT JUST ON DECIDING WHICH ROADS TO COMPLETELY REBUILD, BUT ON MAINTENANCE. AND IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE SIGNIFICANT MONEY ON MAINTENANCE BY MAINTAINING THE RIGHT ROADS AT THE RIGHT TIME INSTEAD OF LETTING THEM GET TOO FAR? YES. I MEAN, A COUPLE THINGS. IT'S NOT JUST ROADS, RIGHT? WE CAN ADD A LOT OF STUFF TO THIS. SO WE'LL GET A SNAPSHOT TODAY, THIS YEAR, WHEN WE'RE FLYING IT. BUT IF WE, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME, AS WE'RE DOING DIFFERENT PROJECTS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHECK THE DETERIORATION OF THE ROADS, COMPARE THE DATA. IT'S A VERY ACCURATE LEVEL. SO MAYBE IT'S... IT'S OKAY TODAY, NOT GREAT, BUT IT DOES NEED REPAIR. IF WE LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN A YEAR, TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, WHATEVER IT IS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DETERIORATION IS RAPID OR NOT AS FAST, THAT WILL ALLOW YOU A BETTER DIRECT. I MEAN, I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN TECHNOLOGY, AND THE MORE YOU CAN STAY ON THE LEADING EDGE OF TECHNOLOGY, NOT THE BLEEDING EDGE, BUT THE LEADING EDGE OF IT, ULTIMATELY, I THINK YOU'LL SAVE MORE MONEY. I LIKE THIS KIND OF PROCESS. SOMETIMES IT'S... I THINK IT'S USUALLY BETTER THAN THE BUBBLE GUM AND BAILING WIRE APPROACH TO KEEPING PLANTS AND FACILITIES RUNNING. THE SAME THING APPLIES TO ROADS. AND EVERY OPERATION I'VE EVER RUN, WHEN I USE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITIES, WE'VE ENDED UP SAVING MORE MONEY THAN WE INVESTED IN CAPITAL, IN THE TECHNOLOGY, TO BEGIN WITH. SO I SEE THIS AS A CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN TECHNOLOGY THAT SHOULD RETURN MORE THAN SEVERAL TIMES OVER WHAT WE SPEND ON IT. I FIRMLY BELIEVE YOU'RE CORRECT, AND I WILL ADD, WE ARE ENGINEERS, AND THE SAYING, SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T TEACH AN OLD DOG NEW TRICKS. I LIKE TO THINK, I LIKE TO LEARN, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN AMAZING TEAM. SOME GENTLEMEN CAME ON. WE'VE GOT A GUY WHO GOT A DOCTORATE IN GEOLOGY, A MASTER'S. SO WE'VE BROUGHT ON SOME EXPERTISE AS WELL TO HELP US. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING HARD, BUT IT'S NOT JUST US TRYING TO WORK WITH GRAVITY AND GOING TO BEST BUY. NO, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. OKAY, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS. AND THE FIRST ONE, I'M SORRY, I. I ONLY BECAME AWARE OF THIS RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING, OTHERWISE I'D ASK STAFF ABOUT THIS, UM, BEFOREHAND. DOES ANYBODY HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE SPENT IN 2021? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT EXACT DOLLARS FOR THE UH STUDY. YES, UH, TWO THOUSAND, EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS, OKAY, BUT THERE WAS STAFF TIME ON TOP OF THAT. GARY YES, YES, YEAH, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS STUDY. OKAY. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE STAFF TIME. OKAY, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP, THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BIG JUMPING COST. BUT I REALIZE THAT THIS IS MORE THAN JUST DOING THE PCI STUDY, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND THIS IS A QUESTION TO GARY AND TO KENT. DO WE FORESEE THIS IS GOING TO SAVE US STAFF TIME AND COST GOING FORWARD BY DOING THIS? I BELIEVE IT WILL BECAUSE I ALSO THINK IT WILL SAVE MAINTENANCE COSTS. I THINK IT WILL BE MUCH MORE COMPLETE THAN EYEBALLING STREETS. IT'S MUCH MORE DETAILED, IF I UNDERSTOOD THIS CORRECTLY. YES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOG IN AND EVALUATE. I MEAN, WE'LL DO THE EVALUATION, THE RANKING, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO RANK IT, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE THING AND WHY IT IS. THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES, SIR, [01:30:03] I BELIEVE SO. AND YOU'VE GOT THIS METHODOLOGY IS MUCH MORE OBJECTIONABLE, YOU KNOW, OR MUCH MORE OBJECTIVE, EXCUSE ME. I WAS GOING TO SAY, I WAS TRYING TO START A CONVERSATION. NO, YOU'VE GOT A LOT ON GARY AND HIS TEAM'S PLATE RIGHT NOW. TO SAVE HIM POTENTIALLY ONE TO TWO WEEKS, COORDINATE ALL THE COORDINATING MEETINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO... TO WORKING WITH CRAIG AND HIS TEAM TO GO OUT THERE AND DO VISUAL ASSESSMENTS. YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL DISAGREEMENTS ON WORK. CONSTITUTES THAT, PREPARING FOR IT, SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH SHUFFLING ALL THAT OVER TO A CONSULTANT TO BUY US SOME BANDWIDTH HERE. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO DO THE WHOLE CITY, TO COVER THAT? WHEN DO YOU WANT IT? WELL, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE, SO HONESTLY, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED. WE'VE GOT A DOZEN, MAYBE A DOZEN AND A HALF ROADS, WHICH YOU'LL HAVE WAY MORE THAN THAT STARTED, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO GET THE... THE MACHINE LEARNING, GOING AND WHATNOT, THAT'S IN A PRETTY GOOD PLACE NOW. IT COULD TAKE A NUMBER OF MONTHS, OR WE CAN DRAG IT OUT, DEPENDING ON BUDGET. SO WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL. I MEAN, THE PROCESSING ON THE BACK END TAKES A LOT LONGER. I'M GETTING ABOUT A TERABYTE OF DATA EVERY THREE WEEKS. WOW. IT TAKES NINE MONTHS. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, SORRY, CAN I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS? WHAT KIND OF REPORTS ARE GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THIS AND THEN WHO PUTS THOSE TOGETHER? WELL, WE WILL PUT IT TOGETHER. AND WHAT KIND? I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS BECAUSE NOBODY'S EVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE. WE'RE KIND OF COMBINING THE NEW TECHNOLOGY TO Y'ALL'S BENEFIT, BUT THEN HAVING THAT DATA TO DO MORE WITH. SO, HONESTLY, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A REPORT. Y'ALL WILL PROBABLY HAVE FEEDBACK AND I'M HAPPY TO GET IT AND WE'LL ADJUST IT. BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF IT, THERE WILL BE A PHYSICAL HARD COPY REPORT, BUT AGAIN, ALL THE INFORMATION YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS ON YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN. GO TO EVERY CRACK, EVERY POTHOLE. ANY QUESTION YOU HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WHERE YOU CAN SEE. WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT TOPIC VERSUS WHAT DID WE INCLUDE ON PAGE 11 OR NOT. THE DELIVERABLE WILL PROBABLY BE DIGITAL AND IN HARD COPY, IN BOTH FORMS, WHICHEVER WAY BEST SUITS YOU ALL. DELIVERABLE AT THIS TIME. SO OUR LAST STUDY, WHEN WE DO IT THE OLD SCHOOL WAY, THEY ALSO INCORPORATED THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FOR EACH OF THESE ROADS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT WITH JUST THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL DATA VERSUS... BECAUSE THAT WOULD DETERMINE WHICH ROADS WE WOULD WANT TO REPAIR FIRST. IT'S NOT JUST HOW BAD IT IS. IT'S THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND THE COMPLEXITY. SO THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME KIND OF HUMAN INTERACTION, I WOULD THINK, BETWEEN STAFF. THERE'S HUMAN INTERACTION THROUGHOUT THIS. SO WHILE WE DO HAVE THE MACHINE LEARNING AND WHATNOT, THERE'S HUMAN INTERACTION THROUGHOUT. WE'RE ADMIN. IF I WAS SIGNING AND SEALING SOMETHING BEFOREHAND, IT'S NO DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT A BLACK BOX. SO WE'RE INTIMATELY. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. I DON'T SEE HOW THEY CAN DO TRAFFIC COUNTS WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING THE STREETS. MY GUESS IS THEY ESTIMATED TRAFFIC USES IN DEAD ROADWAYS, WHICH WE CAN DO SOMETHING SIMILAR. WE HAD NOT INTENDED TO DO LIVE. TRAFFIC COUNTS ON EVERY ROAD. YOU CAN'T DO THAT FROM A DRIVING POSITION. BUT, CRAIG, JUST TO SPECIFY, WE ARE REQUESTING AN INDEX WITH A REPORT AT THE END SO THAT WE HAVE PRIORITIES ON WHICH STREETS WE WOULD... ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND THAT WILL BE IN REPORT FORMAT. OKAY. AND THEN ONE MORE, HOW OFTEN DO YOU RECOMMEND UPDATING THIS? SO ONCE WE GO THROUGH AND GET ALL THAT DATA THAT FIRST TIME, IS THERE GOING TO BE A CONTINUING, UPDATED SITUATION, OR WILL WE DO THIS EVERY FIVE YEARS, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? I THINK IT WILL BE A CONTINUAL CONVERSATION AS WE SEE NEED. BUT THIS DATA SET WE'RE BUILDING, IT WON'T BE DONE AND DEAD OVER ONCE THE PCI IS DONE. WE HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF DATA ABOUT THE SEA THAT IS USEFUL, SO IT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW, AND AS WE LEARN TO USE THAT TOGETHER. AND IF YOU HAVE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ON ROADS, MAYBE IT'S THE ENTIRE CITY, OR MAYBE THERE ARE CERTAIN ONES WE WANT TO UPDATE. THAT'S AS NEEDED BY THE CITY, WHATEVER THE BEST USE IS. FOR EXAMPLE, THAT LIDAR IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT BE ABLE TO PICK UP. AND HELP US DETERMINE WHERE SOME OF OUR WATER LINES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND EDGES OF ROADS AND EVERYTHING IS. EDGES OF ROADS, YEAH. I MEAN, IT GETS A SPOT SHOT ABOUT EVERY THREE CENTIMETERS. AND WITHIN THE SOFTWARE, IT WILL IDENTIFY WHATEVER IT IS. IT WILL FIND EVERY MANHOLE, VALVE, COVER, EDGE OF ROAD, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. EVENTUALLY, WE COULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH DATA HERE. WE'D LIKE TO CREATE A GIS INTERFACE, AND IN THAT INTERFACE, WE'D LIKE TO MAP OUT ALL OF OUR WATER LINES, OUR SEWER LINES, WE'D LIKE ALL OUR ROADS LOCATED ON THERE. AND THEN FURTHERMORE, WE WANT TO BE EVEN MORE SPECIFIC. WE WANT TO ADD PHOTOS OF ALL OF OUR VALVES ON THERE SO THAT STAFF CAN GO OUT THERE AND CHECK A VALVE, WHERE IS IT LOCATED, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME IT WAS EXERCISED. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE CAN WORK TOWARDS. LONG TERM, WITH THE DATA THAT WE'RE BUILDING [01:35:01] IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PCI. AND A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION I HAVE IN HOUSE ALREADY, RIGHT? SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WATERLINE PLANS FOR YOU. SO THOSE, AND THOSE ARE ALL GEO-REFERENCED, SO A LOT OF THOSE, WAMAC, WE PUT IN, RIGHT? AND SO THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE, A LOT OF THE OTHER INFORMATION, SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE FOR YOU BEFORE, WE CAN INCORPORATE WITH THIS. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDO EVERYTHING WE'VE EVER DONE. SO YOU PAY FOR IT ONCE, AND WE HAVE IT DIGITALLY, SO IT DOESN'T TAKE ANY TIME. IT CAN BE A COMPREHENSIVE THING OVER TIME, IT'LL TAKE TO BUILD, BUT AGAIN, EVERY TIME YOU SAY, HEY, WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE OR THERE, EVENTUALLY TRYING TO BUILD THIS OUT IN A 3D TYPE OF WORLD. I MEAN, JUST MY COMMENT IS... I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID A MINUTE AGO ABOUT YOU'D WORK WITH US IF WE NEED TO STRETCH IT OUT AND MANAGE THE TIME OF THE CASH FLOW. I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY, IF WE VOTE TO DO THIS, THE SOONER, THE BETTER, BECAUSE THE SOONER WE GET THE RESULTS, THE SOONER WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT THEM TO WORK AND START SAVING MONEY WITH IT. AND THE TIME VALUE OF THE MONEY IS IRRELEVANT, REALLY, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. WE'VE GOT THE CASH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GO BORROW THE MONEY. WE'VE GOT MONEY. SO, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE FUNDS ON HAND, I WOULDN'T TRY TO... TRY TO SAVE THE TIME, VALUE OF THE MONEY WHEN WE CAN START GETTING THE VALUE OF THE TIME AND THE REPAIRS. SO TO FOLLOW ON WITH THAT, TOO, DEPENDING ON HOW SOON, AHEAD OF BUDGET, WE CAN GET THIS, THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP US PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR'S REPAIRS AND THAT, AND GARY WILL KNOW WHERE HIS STUFF IS. IT WILL HELP US TO UPDATE THE CIP PLAN AS WELL AS DO BUDGETING, SO THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. HOW USER-FRIENDLY IS THE SOFTWARE? ARE STAFF GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND UTILIZE THAT TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE ALL ON WATER LINES AND THERE'S SOMETHING SIMPLE THEY CAN PULL UP? OR IS IT EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO COME THROUGH YOU? WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO HOST IT, BUT THERE'S A WAY THEY CAN LOOK AT IT. BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE IT FIRM, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY, AS I SAY HERE, RECORDING THIS. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SECRET SAUCE IN SOME OF THIS. BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF BUILDING A CUSTOM PLATFORM FOR THAT REASON. WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT ANOTHER COMPANY WE'RE CONTRACTING WITH TO HELP THAT. IF YOU ALL CAN'T USE IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO THERE WILL BE A LOT OF LAYERS, SO THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF LEARNING TO IT, BUT IT IS INTENDED TO BE USED BY ALL OF CITY STAFF AS THEY CAN. BUT BEING IN CONTROL OF THAT, IF YOU ALL HAVE, LIKE, AS WE GET INTO IT, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THIS OR CHANGE THAT, OR THIS IS HARD, WELL, WE'RE IN CONTROL OF THAT. WE CAN DO OUR BEST TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND CONTINUALLY IMPROVE THAT. AND MY FINAL COMMENT ON THIS ONE, MAYOR, IF YOU WILL, WHILE... WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDING THIS TO THE CIP IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? BUT WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME COST SAVINGS WITH BOTH DUBLIN ROAD AND LEWIS LANE. THAT IS POTENTIALLY ALLOWING US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AT A FASTER CLIP THAN WE WOULD HAVE PLANNED FOR. AND I WILL CLARIFY ONE THING, BECAUSE NOBODY'S ASKED IT, BUT SOMEBODY WILL AT SOME POINT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FLY OVER ANYBODY'S HOUSES. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY. THE GOVERNANCE OF THIS IS A LITTLE GRAY AT THE STATE LEVEL. THERE IS A FIELD OF VIEW, SO WE'LL BE FLYING ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WHEN YOU LOOK IT UP, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PEOPLE OR PRIVATE PROPERTY, HOUSES OR POOLS OR ANY OF THAT. THE INFORMATION MAY EXTEND A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THAT, BUT THE DRONE ITSELF IS STAYING WITHIN THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. HARKOFF? OKAY, THANK YOU. COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. HERE. OH, GO AHEAD. NO, GO AHEAD. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2026-888, AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE BURKHOFF, HENDRICKS, AND CARTER LLP FOR A PAVEMENT CONDITION STUDY. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. HALBERT. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND, MADAM MAYOR. I SECOND, MADAM MAYOR. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2026-888. BY MISS HALBERT AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM PILGRIM. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER? MS. BARKER. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. I KNOW THE WAY THIS IS WORDED, IT SAYS IT'S FOR A PAVEMENT CONDITION STUDY, BUT I'D LIKE A RESIDENT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT JUST FOR A PAVEMENT. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO EVALUATIONS OF DRAINAGE AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE JUST NOW DISCOVERING, SO IT'S NOT JUST A PAVEMENT CONDITION STUDY. NO, IT INCLUDES A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THE DELIVERABLE WILL BE THE PCI, BUT THE DATA WILL SERVE FOR REUSE, ABSOLUTELY. OH, OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING RESOLUTION NO. 2026-888, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, MOTION CARRIES 4-0. OKAY, CRAIG, GET OUT THERE WITH YOUR DRONE. OKAY. NOW WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 17. EXCUSE ME, [01:40:02] 18. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, AND OR GIVING STAFF DIRECTION ON SOLID WASTE CONTRACTS. OKAY, MR. MARTIN. YES, MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITIZENS. OH, YEAH, I DID. YOU'RE RIGHT. WELL, LET'S GO. SINCE WE HAVE ROBIN HERE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO ON 718. I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR ROBIN WHEN I SAY THAT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. SO WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GET AN INITIAL DISCUSSION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ON THE SOLID WASTE COLLECTION CONTRACT. SO WE'RE SEEKING YOUR DIRECTION ON THIS ONE. THE PARTNERSHIP WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES DATES BACK TO 2009. THE CURRENT AGREEMENT WAS A RESULT OF A COMPETITIVE RFP PROCESS THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2021, HOWEVER. SO I WANT TO JUST... POINT OUT SOME IMPORTANT DATES THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON HERE. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE CONTRACT TOOK EFFECT IN DECEMBER OF 2021. THE PRIMARY TERM EXPIRATION IS DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. HOWEVER, WE NEED TO PROVIDE TERMINATION NOTICE ON OR BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST, 2026. SO THERE'S A LOT OF STAFF LEAD TIME THAT WOULD GO INTO SOME OF THE OPTIONS. WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT. A COUPLE OTHER POINTS DOWN THERE, YOU'RE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THIS. Y'ALL JUST APPROVED A CPI PER OUR CONTRACT THAT'S BROUGHT TO YOU EVERY YEAR, AND THE CONTRACTOR HAS 45 DAYS TO MAKE THAT REQUEST. I WILL ALSO JUST POINT OUT THAT IF A DECISION IS NOT MADE, THEN THIS HAS AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL PROVISION. SO IF THERE'S NOT A NOTICE TO TERMINATE BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST, THIS WILL JUST RENEW INTO ANOTHER FIVE-YEAR CYCLE, WHICH IS WHY WE WANTED TO GET IT TO YOU AHEAD OF TIME. SO, A COUPLE OF THESE OPTIONS HERE ARE BASED ON THE FACT THAT REPUBLIC SERVICES HAS INDICATED A DESIRE TO CONTINUE PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE CITY OF PARKER. SO I HAD AN INITIAL DISCUSSION WITH RICK AND AMY, WITH REPUBLIC. WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD. WE TALKED ABOUT THEIR DESIRE. WE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL COSTS. DIDN'T GET INTO A WHOLE LOT OF SPECIFICS ON THAT, BUT JUST ENOUGH TO KIND OF PREP FOR THIS CONVERSATION. OPTION ONE THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING HERE WOULD BE A RENEGOTIATION WITH REPUBLIC TO HELP FOCUS ON SOME OF THE TERMS WE THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IN A NEW CONTRACT. AND SOME OF THE FOCUS AREAS FOR THAT ARE MAINTAINING RATE STABILITY. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY, THAT THEIR BILL EASES OR STAYS RELATIVELY THE SAME TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. WE NEED STREAMLINED AND EFFICIENT CUSTOMER SERVICE. THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM AND LACKING, NOT ONLY FOR OUR CITY STAFF WHO LIAISES WITH REPUBLIC, BUT ALSO FOR CUSTOMERS WHO CALL IN WITH COMPLAINTS. THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION. FOLKS ARE SENT BACK AND FORTH. SO I'D LIKE TO PUT SOMETHING IN TERMS OF THEIR POTENTIAL, WITH SOME PERFORMANCE CRITERIA TO ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY. REGULAR, BULK COLLECTIONS. OF COURSE, IF YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN TWO YEARS, I'VE HEARD THE HORROR STORIES. THERE WAS A LOT OF ISSUES WITH BULK PICKUP. I THINK A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN RESOLVED FOR THE MOST PART. IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED SCHEDULE. THERE IS ROOM FOR OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THERE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE HHW SOLUTION, HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, THIS HAS JUST BECOME ESSENTIALLY UNAFFORDABLE, AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD WORK THIS BACK INTO A CONTRACT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALISTIC, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO SHOOT FOR. OPTION TWO IS TO ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, MUCH LIKE WE DID IN 2021. THIS IS A COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION. IT REVIEWS ITEMS OUTSIDE OF JUST COST ALONE. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT PAST PERFORMANCE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES, THEIR OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE TRUCKS BREAKING DOWN FREQUENTLY. WHAT DOES THEIR COMMUNICATION LOOK LIKE? ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUSTAINABILITY GOALS. YOU CAN INCLUDE ALL THOSE IN YOUR RFP. EITHER OF THESE OPTIONS, LIKE I SAID, DOES REQUIRE A LOT OF STAFF LEAD TIME. SO I BROUGHT IN ROBIN TODAY BECAUSE SHE IS THE ONE WHO DEALS SPECIFICALLY WITH COMPLAINTS TO SOLID WASTE. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED BASED ON SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THESE OUT SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH. SO, FIRST AND FOREMOST, REPUBLIC'S CUSTOMER SERVICE, LIKE I SAID, IT HAS BEEN LACKING. FREQUENTLY RESULTS IN CUSTOMER CONFUSION. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY COMPLAINTS? I THINK I MENTIONED THAT ONE ALREADY. THE REPLACEMENT OF HANDHELD CARTS, WHETHER OR NOT THOSE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERED BY THE CITY STAFF, OR, LIKE OUR CONTRACT SAYS, BY REPUBLIC. THIS HAS BEEN RESOLVED. STAFF WAS DELIVERING THOSE CARTS, MAKING THE REPLACEMENTS FOR A LONG TIME. [01:45:01] UNTIL I THINK ROBIN AND GARY STEPPED IN AND WERE ABLE TO GET THAT ADJUSTED. OF COURSE, THE HHW COLLECTION, I WON'T GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL ON THAT ONE. IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE. BRUSH AND BULKY COLLECTIONS FOR THE CITY OF PARKER. WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT THE CITY OF PARKER DOES GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR NORMAL COMPARATIVE TO OUR PEERS. ON THE AMOUNT OF BRUSH THAT THE SOLID WASTE COLLECTION COMPANY IS... WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS. YES, EXACTLY. YOU SAID IT MUCH BETTER THAN I DID. ANOTHER ISSUE WE'VE HAD IS THAT OUR CITIZENS DO NOT HAVE DIRECT LANDFILL ACCESS. WE GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS FOR FOLKS LOOKING TO TAKE AN ADDITIONAL LOAD. MAYBE THEY JUST HAD THEIR BULK AND BRUSHY PICKUP AND THEY'VE GOT EXTRA STUFF AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO TAKE IT UNTIL THE NEXT MONTH. SOME OF OUR PAST COORDINATING ISSUES WITH OUR DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES, SO USUALLY A SOLID WASTE CONTRACTOR WILL GIVE A DESIGNATED COORDINATOR TO EACH CITY. AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR KIND OF WORKING WITH THE CITY TO RESOLVE ANY ISSUES THAT MIGHT COME UP. THE PERSON THAT THE COMPANY PUTS IN THAT ROLE MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE ATTENTION WE DESERVE. WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THAT OVER THIS FIVE-YEAR CYCLE. THAT HAS BEEN RESOLVED FOR THE MOST PART. WE'VE GOT A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE WHO AT LEAST RESPONDS AND IS ACTIVE AND HEARS US OUT. AND THEN, LASTLY, HERE, A LACK OF COMMUNICATION ON MECHANICAL FAILURES. WE SOMETIMES DON'T EVEN KNOW IF A TRUCK HAS BROKEN DOWN UNTIL WE GET A PHONE CALL FROM A CUSTOMER. THAT'S NOT HOW IT SHOULD BE. WE SHOULD BE GETTING PROACTIVE COMMUNICATION FROM THE SOLID WASTE VENDOR. HEY, OUR TRUCK BROKE DOWN. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TOMORROW OR THE FOLLOWING DAY TO PICK UP THE LOAD. ROBIN IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE EXPERIENCES OF STAFF. OKAY. AND, ALBERT? YEAH, I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. AND SO YOU SAID, OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH... REPUBLIC HAS BEEN SINCE 2009, OR DID WE HAVE SOMEONE PRIOR TO 2000? SO, ALLIED WASTE AND REPUBLIC HAS BEEN THE PARTNER HERE WITH THE CITY OF PARKER SINCE 2009. NOW, THE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE ON IS FROM 2001. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO, THERE WERE... 2021. I THINK, HOW MANY PROPOSALS DID WE HAVE SUBMITTED? THERE WERE THREE FOLKS WHO SUBMITTED. REPUBLIC WAS ONE OF THOSE, AND THEY ENDED UP GETTING THE CONTRACT. DO YOU REMEMBER GRANT? I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE. IT WAS THREE IN TOTAL? IT WAS REPUBLIC, IT WAS CWO, WHATEVER. CWD? CWD. AND THEN THE THIRD WAS SOME BRAND NEW STARTUP COMPANY, AND I COULDN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THEM. I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THEIR NAME. AND THEN I GUESS THE SECOND QUESTION IS PROBABLY FOR YOU. DOES REPUBLIC SERVICE MURPHY? YES. OKAY, BECAUSE THAT INFORMS SOME OF THESE. I LIVE IN MURPHY, SO I CAN ATTEST TO THAT. OKAY. MS. BOBBITT, SO OVERALL, COMPLAINT-WISE, WHAT KIND OF COMPLAINTS ARE WE GETTING, AND ARE THEY AT A NUMBER THAT YOU FEEL THAT WE SHOULD BE SATISFIED WITH OR NOT BE SATISFIED WITH? WELL, THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT WE GET FROM THE RESIDENT PERSPECTIVE IS, THEY MISSED MY HOUSE, OR, ODDLY, THEY PICKED UP SOME OF MY CARTS, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM, WHICH, OF COURSE, I HAVE NO EXPLANATION FOR THIS. SO WE'VE HAD NINE WEEKS OF PICKUPS, AND JUST IN A QUICK AUDIT OF EMAILS ONLY, WE'VE HAD 11 ADDRESSES IN NINE WEEKS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PICKED UP. FOR SEEMINGLY NO REASON, BECAUSE IF THE ITEMS WEREN'T OUT, REPUBLIC WOULD COME BACK WITH A VIDEO GOING, THE ITEMS WEREN'T THERE. SO WHEN THEY GO, OKAY, WE'LL PICK IT UP, THAT SAYS TO ME THEY MISSED IT, AND THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR, PERHAPS PHONE CALLS OR ANYTHING THAT WENT DIRECTLY TO REPUBLIC INSTEAD OF US. I DON'T KNOW. NINE MISSED HOUSES IN NINE WEEKS, SO IT SEEMED LIKE WE'RE OFF TO A GREAT START. IS THAT POSSIBLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY TWO-LANE BLACKTOP AND NO CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER? THEY HAVE NEVER INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE AN ISSUE GETTING THEIR TRUCKS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF HOUSES OR STREETS. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF LITTLE SHORT STREETS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PLACES WHERE THEY PUT IN A PICKUP TRUCK BECAUSE THE BIG TRUCK WON'T GO. ROBIN, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT I FAILED TO MENTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE KNOWN TO CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT? THIS JUST KIND OF CAME OUT OF THE BLUE. I HAD A RESIDENT CALL. SHE HAD REQUESTED A RECYCLE CART. THEY DELIVERED A CART THAT WAS THE SAME COLOR AS HER TRASH CARTS. SO NOW I HAVE TO CALL REPUBLIC AND GO, HEY, YOU GUYS DELIVERED THE WRONG COLOR CART, FOR THEM TO GO, OH YEAH, WE CHANGED THOSE, BUT WE DIDN'T TELL YOU. SO COMING UP, ALL OF YOUR CARTS, AS THEY ARE REPLACED, WILL ALL BE THE SAME COLOR. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THE LID, THAT'S DIFFERENT. THEY DIDN'T ASK ME. THEY ACTUALLY DIDN'T EVEN TELL ME. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE GET. THE MAIN ISSUE WITH REPUBLIC IS THERE'S JUST A TOTAL LACK OF COMMUNICATION. KIT DID POINT OUT OUR LIAISON MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE. I'VE BEEN HERE FOUR AND A HALF YEARS. WE'RE ON OUR FOURTH LIAISON. OKAY. AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN MORE EQUAL THAN THE OTHERS? YES. [01:50:08] WE'VE HAD TWO REALLY, REALLY GOOD ONES, AND ONE OF THOSE IS OUR CURRENT GUY. HAVE THE PHONE CALLS GONE DOWN? AT ONE POINT. IT SEEMED LIKE EVERY PHONE CALL COMING INTO THE CITY WAS SOMETHING ABOUT REPUBLICANS. YES, I DO FEEL THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT FRONT. WE WERE ABLE TO, AS BEST WE CAN, PUSH OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT AN APP IS AVAILABLE. I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT. WE HAVE ALSO PUT THAT PHONE NUMBER ON THE TRASH PAGE TO TRY AND REACH OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T PICK YOUR TRASH UP, BUT HOPEFULLY THEY CAN TELL YOU. SO, YES, IT HAS IMPROVED, BUT THERE ARE STILL TOO MANY OF THE SAME CALLS OVER AND OVER. HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY PUSHBACK FROM RESIDENTS WHERE I'VE CALLED REPUBLIC AND THEY REFERRED ME BACK TO THE CITY? YES. THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE.IS REALLY GOOD AT TELLING THEM, I'M SORRY, YOU DON'T HAVE AN ACCOUNT. I CAN'T HELP YOU. WELL, MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE AN ACCOUNT. CITY OF PARKER HAS AN ACCOUNT. BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR ADDRESS AND BE ABLE TO GET THEM A NEW CART. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THERE'S QUITE A FEW COMMUNICATION PROBLEMS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE WORKED OUT AND RESOLVED. YES. SO DO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR A QUOTE? WAIT, YOU SAID THE OPPOSITE. WELL, A LITTLE COMBINATION OF BOTH, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL. SO WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING TO YOU TONIGHT IS THAT YOU ALLOW CITY STAFF TO ENTER INTO DIRECT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE PUBLIC OVER THE NEXT 90 DAYS. WITH SOME OF THOSE FOCUS AREAS IN MIND, SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH TERMS THAT ARE AGREEABLE TO CITY COUNCIL, BRING THAT BACK FOR YOU TO REVIEW. IF THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR YOU, THEN WE SHOULD STILL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GO AHEAD AND PUSH THIS OUT TO RFP, ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE TIGHT. MR. BYRNE, IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, RIGHT NOW, OUR CURRENT CONTRACT IS EVERYBODY GETS TWO TRASH CANS AND ONE RECYCLE. CAN WE DISCUSS WITH THEM THE POSSIBILITY OF... SHE SAYS THREE, I WAS GOING TO SAY ONE, BECAUSE IN THE 12 YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE, I'VE PROBABLY USED THAT SECOND CART LIKE FIVE TIMES EVER. AND I PAY ATTENTION IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE NOT USING THAT SECOND TRASH CART. AND I KNOW I LIVED IN PLANO BEFORE THIS, AND EVERYBODY DEFAULTS TO ONE. AND, IN FACT, YOU COULD DOWNSIZE TO A SMALLER ONE FOR A CHEAPER RATE. SO CAN WE? MAYBE THE COST DOESN'T MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, BUT CAN WE AT LEAST ASK THAT QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS, ESPECIALLY AS THEY RELATE TO COST. YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT, TOO. I MEAN, 90% OF THE TIME, ONE OF EACH IS NEEDED. THE OTHER THING I WAS REALLY THINKING ABOUT IS BECAUSE OF ALL THESE SERVICE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE, WHAT CAN YOU PUT IN THE CONCH AND LOOK AT THE LEVEL? I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE CPI LOOKED AT. IT DRIVES ME CRAZY THAT THEY ASK FOR A CPI EVERY YEAR AND IT'S ALWAYS 5% OR GREATER. AND I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. TO BE THE BARE OF BAD NEWS, I DID PUSH FOR THAT ONE EARLY ON. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN'T STILL WORK TO NEGOTIATE THAT ONE, BUT THEY DID PUSH BACK ON THAT ONE. THEY OFFERED POTENTIALLY A FIXED RATE IN LIEU OF A CPI, WHICH IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. WELL, MY PROBLEM COMES INTO. SOMETIMES THEY'VE ASKED FOR, WE WANT OUR CPI, BUT, OH, BY THE WAY, THE COST OF DIESEL HAS GONE UP, SO NOW WE WANT AN INCREASE IN THAT. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, EITHER WE HAVE A RIGHT OR WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT. AND THAT JUST BUGS THE HECK OUT OF US. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT. CAN YOU PUT YOUR RECOMMENDATION BACK UP? AND IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS, REPUBLIC WASTE USED [01:55:06] TO HOLD TWO... HOME HAZARDOUS WASTE EVENTS WHERE PEOPLE COULD BRING THEIR STUFF UP TO HERE AND THEY'D PICK THEM UP. AND THEY DISCONTINUED THAT. THEY SAID THEY NO LONGER COULD DO IT FOR THE CITY OF PARKER. BUT I THINK THEY MUST HAVE DONE IT. YEAH, I THINK SO, 100%. TWICE A YEAR. SO I GUESS I'M NOT FEELING, I WAS FEELING A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE. AND I ACTUALLY, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO OUT FOR NEGOTIATIONS. GO OUT FOR PROPOSALS. I WOULDN'T MIND SITTING ON THAT IF YOU NEEDED A STAFF MEMBER. I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. A COUNCIL MEMBER. OH, YEAH, I DON'T WORK FOR Y'ALL. A COUNCIL MEMBER, BECAUSE I HAVE DONE THIS PREVIOUSLY. THAT'S HOW I LEARNED THE TERM PRE-PRECIPITABLE WASTE. HAPPY TO HAVE YOU, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GO. YEAH, WE NEED SOME SORT OF DIRECTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TONIGHT SO THAT STAFF CAN GET MOVING. OKAY. IN LINE WITH THAT, I WOULD TAKE A MOTION ON WHATEVER IT IS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. OKAY. THIS HELPS. I MOVE TO DIRECT CITY STAFF TO ENTER INTO, TO GO OUT FOR PROPOSALS FOR OUR SOLID WASTE SERVICES FOR THE NEXT FIVE-YEAR TERM. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER HALBERT AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER BOGDAN TO GO OUT FOR VOTE ON TRASH AND BULK TRASH SERVICES FOR A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY, MOTION CARRIES 4-0. MR. MANTON, PLEASE. CAUSE. A BID TO GO OUT WITH COUNSEL HERE APPROVING THE BILL. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A PENALTY ASPECT PUT INTO THE RFP, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER AS PART OF THE COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, [17. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2026- 889 SETTING REGULAR MEETING DATES AND TIMES AND ADOPTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATED TO MEETINGS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.] ROB. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW WE'LL BACK UP AND GO TO ITEM 17. CONSIDERATION OF ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2026-889, SETTING REGULAR MEETING DATES AND TIMES, AND ADOPTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE MEETINGS OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. I THINK WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THERE WAS SOME... UNHAPPINESS WITH P&J. WHEN THEY DIDN'T MAKE FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS IT WAS. AND SO THIS IS WHAT THAT'S ABOUT. THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, OR RESOLUTION, I BELIEVE, WAS FOR THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAY OF EACH MONTH AT 7 P.M. WE COUNSEL CONSENT AND THERE IS... RIGHT HERE, HE CAN HAVE INPUT ON WHEN THE MEETINGS WOULD BE AND HOW OFTEN DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD MEET. IF I COULD, YOU HAVE A DRAFT RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU WITH TIMES THEY COULD BE FILLED IN. BUT IT'S ALSO MR. MACHADO MADE ME AWARE EARLIER THAT WE COULD HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE SCHEDULING THAT WE HAVE. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I THOUGHT OF YOU COULD DO ONE IS TO ADD SOME LANGUAGE WHICH I'VE ALREADY DRAFTED. ALLOWING FOR THE ADJUSTMENT OF THE DATES IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 212 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. THE OTHER IS THAT YOU COULD JUST ADOPT A SCHEDULE FOR A YEAR AT A TIME. JUST THROWING THOSE OUT THERE, LIKE, WE'RE NOT STUCK TO THIS MODEL. AND I HAD SOME MODIFICATIONS I WOULD LIKE ON THIS ONE, BECAUSE ON SECTION 2 IT'S... SAYS, CALLED BY THE CHAIRPERSON OR CITY ADMINISTRATOR, I'D LIKE THAT TO BE CITY ADMINISTRATOR OR MAYOR, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHEN WE HAVEN'T HAD A CITY ADMINISTRATOR. AND JUST IN CASE THAT EVER HAPPENS, YOU'RE NOT LEAVING ON YOU, JUST IN CASE THAT EVER HAPPENS AGAIN. WELL, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT PUTS IT BACK ON ELECTED AND OF STAFF, NOT ON AN APPOINTED POSITION THAT COULD GO ROGUE. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT A CHAIR TO HAVE THAT AUTHORITY. I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, WHERE IT'S [02:00:01] YOU AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR. THEY SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL. OKAY. IT TOOK ME A WHILE. IT'S GETTING LATE. OKAY. SO, MS. BOGDAN. IS THERE A WAY WE CAN SIMPLIFY THIS? AND I KNOW THIS IS JUST FOR P&Z, BUT WE HAVE PARK AND RECS AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS. CAN WE JUST DO THAT ALL IN ONE DOCUMENT, WHERE, LIKE, HERE'S THE SCHEDULE FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? AND HAVE IT ALL IN ONE PLACE INSTEAD OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT ONES? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY OPERATE VERY DIFFERENTLY, FOR EXAMPLE. OPERATIVE ADJUSTMENTS WOULD BE DIFFERENT, YEAH. BECAUSE VBA OPERATES AT THE CALL OF THE CHAIR. PARKS AND REC OPERATES ONCE A MONTH. I DON'T KNOW HOW CATHERINE CAN GUIDE ME BETTER. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THAT SUCCINCTLY IN ONE DOCUMENT. THE SUGGESTION YOU HAD MENTIONED, JUST SETTING THE SCHEDULE FOR THE YEAR, I LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE THEN WE'LL HAVE ALL THE HOLIDAYS, I MEAN, THINGS THAT SHIFT EVERY YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE. I THINK YOU WOULD ADOPT A RESOLUTION THAT APPLIES TO ALL OF THEM, JUST THAT SAYS. THE MEETING SCHEDULE WILL BE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, BUT ALSO PROVIDING PROVISIONS FOR HOW SPECIAL MEETINGS CAN BE CALLED FOR EACH ONE AND HOW MEETINGS CAN BE CANCELED. THAT COULD ALL BE IN ONE DOCUMENT. I JUST THINK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE DESERVE TO KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE. SO WHEN YOU CONSISTENTLY SAY THE FIRST AND THIRD, THIS AND THIS, CHRISTMAS FALLS OR HOLIDAY OR FALL, SOMETHING FALLS, IT'S GOOD FOR THE MEMBERS TO KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT I'M COMMITTING TO. SO I DON'T LIKE WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, WE'RE JUST GOING TO CALL IT WHEN I WANT. LIKE, NO ONE CAN COMMIT TO THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THE WAY ZBA HAS TO WORK. WELL, THAT'S SPECIAL. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, GOOD POINT, OKAY, SINCE I WAS THE FORMER CHAIR OF PARKS AND REC, I AM GOING TO TAKE THE OPPOSITE POSITION ON PARKS AND REC. PLANNING AND ZONING IS A FUNDAMENTAL PART OF THE OPERATION OF THE CITY. WHEREAS PARKS AND REC, AT LEAST THE WAY WE USE PARKS AND REC IN THE CITY, IS MORE OF AN OPTIONAL THING. TO HELP THE PROCESS. AND I DON'T THINK THINGS GET SENT TO THEM TYPICALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A SHOT CLOCK. A LOT OF IT'S THEM JUST PLANNING OUT EVENTS. SO I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO BURDEN THEM WITH US DICTATING WHEN THEY NEED TO. I DON'T RECALL WHAT THEIR, I GUESS, THEIR CURRENT RESOLUTION CALLS FOR THEM TO MEET ON THE FIRST. I THINK WE USUALLY ANNUAL, JUST SO THEY, TO PUT THE. BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN MEETING ON THIRD WEDNESDAY. THEY'VE BEEN MEETING ON FIRST. FIRST WEDNESDAY. YEAH. I MEAN, ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH HOW PARKS AND RECS ARE MEETING? I MEAN, ARE WE TRYING TO FIX A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST? NO, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PARKS AND RECS. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH PARKS AND RECS IS THEY MEET AT 5 O'CLOCK. AND FOR SOME PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT A GOOD TIME. BUT THAT'S BEEN PARKS AND RECS' DECISION THAT THEY WERE CHOOSING TO MEET AT THAT, AND THAT WAS VOTED ON BY THE MEMBERSHIP. AND THAT TIME IS SPECIFICALLY SO THAT CITY STAFF DO NOT HAVE TO STAY LATE AT NIGHT, AND THAT'S THE CORE REASON THEY HAVE THAT TIME. SO WHERE I'M AT WITH THIS IS NOT JUST THE MEMBERS, BUT TRANSPARENCY TO THE COMMUNITY. ONE, WHEN WE GO OUT FOR VOLUNTEERS, THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE TIME COMMITMENT. BUT ALSO FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE WANTING TO COME ATTEND, MAYBE FOR FUTURE VOLUNTEERING, OR MAYBE JUST TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TRAILS. SO I THINK FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES, OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, HAVING A SET TIME THAT IS STATIONARY ON THE WEBSITE IS IMPORTANT. [02:05:03] OKAY. CATHERINE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. IS THERE A WAY, LET ME ASK IT DIFFERENTLY, IS IT BETTER TO DRAFT DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS FOR DIFFERENT BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS, OR CAN WE DO THIS IN SOME WAY WITH ONE RESOLUTION, BUT THAT COVERS ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? YOU CAN DO IT AS ONE RESOLUTION THAT COVERS EVERYBODY. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A SEPARATE. SECTION FOR EACH ONE, BECAUSE THEY ALL SOUND REALLY DISTINCT. OKAY, THE ONE THING I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT, THOUGH, AND THIS IS ALWAYS COME OUT OF MY PET THINGS, RIGHT? ABOUT HOW DO WE KEEP UP WITH THINGS THAT WE DO? ANYTIME YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE AMENDING THAT RESOLUTION, AND SO YOU'LL AMEND IT FOR ONE AND THEN AMEND IT FOR ANOTHER. SO IT MIGHT BE CLEANER IN THAT WAY TO MAINTAIN THEM ALL AS SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS. THOSE ARE JUST MY, WELL, OKAY, I GUESS. I DON'T ENTIRELY UNDERSTAND HOW WE GET VOLUNTEERS, OR IF WE JUST DO IT LIKE SOME CITIES DO IT ONCE A YEAR, THEY GO OUT FOR APPLICATIONS. WE SEEM TO BE DOING IT AS WE HAVE VACANCIES. BUT IF WE MOVE TO A ONCE A YEAR, WE COULD ALSO REVIEW THAT AND MAKE ANY CHANGES, LIKE DEAL WITH IT AS A HOLISTIC. I THINK WE NORMALLY DO THE ANNUAL RECRUITING FOR APPOINTMENT IN NOVEMBER. SO NOVEMBER, I THINK, IS WHEN. BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE APPOINTED, AND THEN VACANCIES ARE FILLED THROUGH THE YEAR. YES. WE HEAVILY ADVERTISE, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT, IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, BECAUSE WE DO APPOINTMENTS IN NOVEMBER. WE KEEP THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE GET ALIVE FOR A YEAR BECAUSE, SAY, BUDDY'S ON ZBA AND THEN HE RESIGNS TWO MONTHS LATER, WELL, THEN WE WOULD GO TO THE NEXT APPLICATION. SO IT'S A YEAH, BUT IT'S LIKE. PARKS AND RECS HAS SOME THINGS IN THEIR RESOLUTION WHERE THEY HAVE TO COME BACK ANNUALLY TO COUNCIL AND DO A ANNUAL REPORT. AND WE HAVE TO REAUTHORIZE THEM TO CONTINUE. THAT'S FROM WHERE WE BOUGHT PARKS AND RECS, BACK FROM FROM THE DEAD. I DON'T KNOW THAT. WE STILL NEED TO DO THAT, AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE ORDINANCES HAVE NOT BEEN LOOKED AT IN QUITE SOME TIME. AND PERHAPS WE NEED TO DO THAT AND AND THEN GO FROM THERE. I MEAN, IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY, I'M ALL FOR IT, I'M ALSO FOR A BETTER WAY OF PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SAY I WOULD. MY FIRST PREFERENCE IS THIS, MY SECOND PREFERENCE IS THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT, THANK YOU. REAL CLEAR TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. MS. BOGDEN? MS. BOGDEN. I'D LIKE TO ASK THE ACTUAL BOARDS WHAT THEIR INPUT IS, BECAUSE I KNOW PARK AND REC, THEIR PEOPLE WANT TO MEET AT 5 O'CLOCK TO BE CONSIDERED AS STAFF, AND THEN ALSO THAT THEY ARE AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. SO I THINK THE BOARDS NEED TO HAVE INPUT BECAUSE THEY MIGHT GET TO IT. I CAN'T BE HERE BEFORE 7 OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO ASK THE COMMUNITY, WHEN CAN YOU MEET? IF YOU WANTED TO COME TO EITHER BE HERE OR BE AN OBSERVER, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PNZ HAS HAD WHEN THEY WENT TO SOME MEETINGS AT 4 O'CLOCK. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT SAY, HEY, THAT'S NOT FAIR, BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE OFF WORK TO GET TO PNZ AT 4 O'CLOCK, AND I CAN'T DO IT. SO I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GOOD POINTS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER TO SEE HOW DO WE WANT TO HANDLE THIS. WHAT IS THE BEST WAY? SHOULD WE DO A, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, SURVEY MONKEY? AND ASK THE RESIDENTS. I'M OPEN TO IDEAS. WHAT DO PEOPLE WANT TO DO? I ALWAYS LIKE EARLY READINGS. I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WORK. AND A LATER MEETING MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE FOR THEM, BUT THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE THAT WORK AT DIFFERENT HOURS, AND I WORK AT NIGHT, AND I WORK AT THIS, SO YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO GET SOME OF THAT. I REALLY, TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERATE OF STAFF TIME. THEY ARE HERE ALL DAY WORKING, AND FOR THEM TO SIT FOR TWO HOURS FROM 5 TO 7 IS A BIG DOWNTIME FOR THEM, AND SO I THINK TRYING TO COMPROMISE [02:10:01] WITH THAT AND GET IT AS CLOSE TO 5 O'CLOCK AS WE CAN, PERHAPS 6 O'CLOCK WOULD BE A GOOD TIME. OPTION? BUT WE REALLY DO NEED TO CONSIDER STAFF AS WELL. P&V IS THE ONE WHERE WE HAVE MOST STAFF GO TO. I DON'T KNOW THAT OTHER THAN LORI, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY GO TO, PATTY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS EBA? IS IT ONLY LORI? OKAY. AND PARKS AND RECS IS KENT. SO, BUT I... I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. I FEEL GUILTY A LOT OF TIMES WITH GARY, KNOWING HE'S BEEN HERE SINCE 7 IN THE MORNING. AND HERE IT IS. HE'S ON 12 HOURS NOW. WE NEED A CAP. HOW MANY CITIZENS ATTEND MOST OF THESE? IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S GOING ON. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PLANNING FOR PARKER FEST, WE MIGHT GET ALL KINDS OF CITIZENS COMING. WHEN PNV HAS... AS IT'S GOING ON A HUFFINES PLATTE, THEY MAY GET A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE BEING THERE. IT DEPENDS ON, IT'S JUST LIKE WITH CITY COUNCIL. WELL, I'LL SAY THIS, THE REALITY IS, THOUGH THERE'S THE EXCEPTIONAL MEETINGS WHERE THERE'S A CROWD, THE NORMAL CROWD IS ONE OR TWO PEOPLE. I SUSPECT THAT'S THE CASE MOST OF THE TIME. THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING OF REAL SPECIAL INTEREST. IF IT'S OF SPECIAL INTEREST, PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO MAKE A SPECIAL EFFORT TO ATTEND. MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, I TEND TO TRY TO NOT, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD MICROMANAGE FROM THE TOP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AND IF WE'VE GOT GOOD PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THESE COMMITTEES THAT WILL DO THE WORK, I WOULD RATHER LET THEM PICK THE TIMES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MEET BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE DOING THE ACTUAL WORK. AND I DO WANT CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND IF THEY CAN, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO HAVE GOOD, QUALIFIED PEOPLE WHO WILL HELP MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR THE CITY. AND WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE OF THAT IF WE HAVE TIMES THAT, IF THEY HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO MEET. CATHERINE, IS THERE, HOW WOULD YOU WRITE SOMETHING UP LIKE THAT? I'LL JUST MAKE A SUGGESTION. I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS WRITTEN UP HERE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN YOUR CHANGES ABOUT ADDING THE MAYOR TO SECTION 2, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED TO SURVEY THE CURRENT PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS TO FILL IN. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THIS PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF ME DOESN'T HAVE A TIME OF DAY. SO I WOULD PROPOSE WE TABLE THIS FOR TONIGHT. SOMEBODY GOES. MAYBE YOU CAN SET IT UP, GET A SURVEY DONE OF THE P&Z MEMBERS REGARDING THE TIME. CAN I ADD TO THAT YOUR DOODLE POLL THAT WE'VE BEEN USING? I THINK IT WOULD BE A USEFUL TOOL TO FIND OUT DURING ANY GIVEN WEEK, NOBODY WANTS WEDNESDAY OR WHATEVER. AND TO TAKE THAT A STEP FARTHER, WHEN... GET THAT INFORMATION IF HE WOULD GET WITH CATHERINE SO SHE COULD DROP, DRAFT IT UP. BUDDY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME, FINE? NO, OKAY, OKAY, DO I NEED A MOTION ON THAT? OR CAN WE JUST TAKE THAT? OKAY, AND YOU WILL COME BACK WITH THAT JUST AS SOON AS Y'ALL CAN. OKAY. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM 19. RECEIVE A PRESENTATION, DISCUSS, [19. RECEIVE A PRESENTATION, DISCUSS, AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON PARKS AND TRAILS PLANS.] AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON PARKS AND TRAILS PLANS. OKAY. I BELIEVE, MR. MANTON, YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION? YES, MA'AM. GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND TO FINISH MY NOTES AND GET THIS. BACK UP ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU. I THINK MY COMPUTER MIGHT BE TIMING OUT HERE. IT'S TIRED. IT'S GOING TO WAIT. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO, THIS IS FOR PARKS AND TRAILS PLANS. WE WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL ON THIS. WE NEED A [02:15:01] LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION FROM YOU. BACK IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, COLLIN COUNTY ADOPTED AN UPDATED REGIONAL TRAILS MASTER PLAN. IN THIS, THEY PROVIDED A LONG-RANGE FRAMEWORK FOR A CONNECTED AND COUNTY-WIDE TRAIL NETWORK. SO, THIS MASTER PLAN DOES INCORPORATE A 2015 TRAIL PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF PARKER. THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, GO WITH ALL OF OUR REVISIONS THAT WE REQUESTED, BUT ESSENTIALLY, THE, I GUESS, GENERAL PLAN IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN COLLIN COUNTY. FURTHERMORE, THE RECENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU APPROVED LAST YEAR DOES IDENTIFY PARKS, TRAILS, AND OPEN SPACES AS AN IMPORTANT PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF PARKER. SO, JUST AS AN OVERVIEW HERE OF SOME OF THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE APPROVED BY CULLINAN COUNTY AND THEIR MASTER PLAN, YOU'VE GOT THE YELLOW, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED PLAN, YOU'VE GOT A STREAMER CREEK. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES HERE IN BLUE HAVE EXISTING TRAILS. SO ESSENTIALLY, YOU'VE GOT THIS KIND OF CORRIDOR THAT COMES THROUGH HERE THROUGH CITY HALL AREA AS ONE OF THE MAIN THOROUGHFARES FOR THE TRAIL SYSTEM IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS OTHER CORRIDOR OVER HERE, THAT KIND OF SKIRTS THE EASTERN SIDE. SO THIS IS THE TRAIL PLAN THAT THE CITY OF PARKER APPROVED BACK IN 2015. YOU'VE GOT THE TRAILS IN PARKER THAT WOULD BE 8 FOOT IN WIDTH, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT IN BLUE TRAILS IN ADJACENT CITIES, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE CITY LIMITS IN RED, AND THE ETJ BOUNDARIES WITH THIS BLUE HASH LINE HERE. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TONIGHT THAT YOU REFER THE COLLIN COUNTY REGIONAL TRAILS MASTER PLAN TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION, DIRECT THE COMMISSION TO EVALUATE PARKERS' RELEVANT CORRIDORS WITHIN THE REGIONAL NETWORK, IDENTIFY LAND ACQUISITION AND RIGHT-OF-WAY PRESERVATION PRIORITIES, AND EXPLORE FINANCING STRATEGIES, INCLUDING COLLIN COUNTY'S PROJECT FUNDING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND ANY OTHER APPLICABLE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN REQUEST THAT COMMISSION RETURN THOSE FINDINGS TO YOU AT A DESIRED FUTURE DATE. AND THEN I THINK, MR. BRAM, DID YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS ONE FOR US? YEAH, I THOUGHT WE, WHEN ME AND YOU HAD TALKED PRIVATELY, WE WERE THINKING THE TURNAROUND TIME WOULD BE TWO TO THREE MONTHS. WAS THAT? YES, I THINK THE TWO MONTHS IS PROBABLY A REASONABLE ASK OF THEM, ESPECIALLY SINCE PARKER FEST IS A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE ROAD. I KNOW THAT'S THE... BIG TIME CONSTRAINT, YEAH, AND UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO AS PART OF THIS IS THERE ARE. I BELIEVE, THERE'S SOME TRAILS THAT ARE BUILT, OR AT LEAST SIDEWALKS THAT ARE BUILT THAT ARE NOT ON COLLIN COUNTY'S PLAN. THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR IN OURS. AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST GO OVER, YOU KNOW, BOTH THESE PLANS AND AND SEE WHAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, ADJUSTED AND IS REASONABLE. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE PRESERVE IS THAT ALL ENTIRELY DEDICATED PARKLAND? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. GARY, YOU KNOW IF WE DEDICATED THAT AS OFFICIAL PARKLAND? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I BELIEVE IT IS, BUT I DON'T. YEAH, AND WHEN I BROUGHT PARKS AND REC BACK, AND I WENT THROUGH ALL THE CITY'S FILES BACK FROM BACK THEN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN. BUT YEAH, WE CAN RESEARCH THAT, AND IF IT'S NOT DEDICATED, THEN WE PROBABLY SHOULD DO THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE TRAILS PLAN. NO, BUT ACTUALLY I WAS LOOKING AT THE GRANT FUNDING BECAUSE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, THEY ACTUALLY WILL DO GRANTS, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO MATCHING, BUT YOU CAN DO MATCHING LAND. OH, OKAY. SO I BELIEVE THE TRAILS THAT ARE BUILT IN THERE RIGHT NOW WERE A TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE GRANT. SO YOU MAY HAVE. SO YOU'RE CAUTIONED WITH US. AND A COLLIN COUNTY GRANT. WE GOT A COLLIN COUNTY GRANT SOME YEARS AGO AND DID A LOT OF THE. THE WORK IN THE PURSUIT. I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO PARK AND REX. FROM A LOT OF THEIR CONVERSATIONS, WHEN I GO TO THE MEETINGS, THEY'VE REALLY EMBRACED THE EVENTS THAT THEY'RE DOING, AND IT'S A LOT OF WORK. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE REALLY UP FOR LAND ACQUISITIONS AND [02:20:01] THINGS LIKE THAT. I ALMOST THINK THAT... STAFF MAYBE SHOULD BE DOING SOME OF THAT, IDENTIFYING BASED OFF THE TRAILS. I DON'T MIND ASKING THEM FOR THEIR INPUT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THE EXECUTION OF SOME OF THIS IS A LITTLE BIT, A LOT OF TIME COMMITMENT. THAT MAYBE THEY DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE FOR LAND COMMITMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I MIGHT RECOMMEND THAT WE ASK HOW MUCH THEY THINK THEY CAN HANDLE AND MAYBE INCLUDE STAFF TO TAKE SOME OF THAT. THAT'S GOOD. REALLY, WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE SEEKING WAS MORE OF A PRIORITIZATION ON WHICH ONES WE, I GUESS, PURSUE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY AMBITIOUS PLAN FOR A CONNECTED CITY OF PARKER, AND YOU'RE STARTING WITH VERY LITTLE. AND SO WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO BE THE PRIORITY THAT WE BRING BACK TO COUNCIL? THAT WE POTENTIALLY WORK WITH A RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION COMPANY ON OBTAINING, IF NECESSARY? IF POSSIBLE. WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT KEEPING PARKER COUNTRY AND PRESERVING OUR OPEN SPACE, BUT YET WE DON'T DO A LOT OF PARKLAND DEDICATION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DEVELOPERS DONATE PARKLAND, AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT IN OUR... OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REQUIREMENTS RIGHT NOW, SO IS THERE A WAY WE CAN GET THAT ADDED OR LOOKED INTO? GARY, DO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A DEVELOPER TO PUT A POCKET PARK IN A NEW DEVELOPMENT LIKE WHITESTONE? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES IT. OKAY. WE COULD ASK FOR IT TODAY. OKAY. AND THOSE POCKET PARKS, LIKE YOUR WHITESTONE WAS BUILT, IS OWNED BY THE HOA. IT WASN'T DEDICATED TO THE CITY. THE OTHER OPTION, TOO, IS THEY COULD DEDICATE PARKLAND, OR THEY COULD DONATE MONEY THAT WE COULD THEN USE FOR EXISTING PARKS. OKAY. THE OTHER POINT, AND I'D HAVE TO TRY TO FIND, AND I HAVE TRIED TO FIND FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE DOCUMENTS WHEN THE PRESERVE WAS BROUGHT INTO THE CITY OF PARKER. THE AGREEMENT WAS IT WOULD ALWAYS BE A PRESERVE. IT WOULD NEVER BE A PARK. IT WOULD NEVER BE MANICURED AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. BILLY? YEAH, SO YOU BROUGHT THAT UP TO ME YEARS AGO. AND I ALSO, I WENT THROUGH A BUNCH OF FILE CABINETS BACK WHEN THEY USED TO BE OVER HERE BEFORE THEY WERE MOVED OUT. AND I COULD NOT FIND ANY EVIDENCE, AT LEAST ON PAPER, OF... THAT STATEMENT YOU JUST MADE. WHERE I GOT IT FROM WAS TWO PEOPLE THAT WERE ON COUNCIL BACK AT THE TIME. ONE WAS MARY ANN SEALE AND THE OTHER WAS DR. JAMES KLEIN. AND, BELIEVE ME, THEY'RE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. ELEANOR EVANS DIDN'T HAVE SOME INPUT BACK IN THE DAY, BUT SHE'S NOT CAPABLE OF COMMUNICATING THAT AT THIS TIME. BUT, UM... SOMEWHERE THOSE PAPERS DO EXIST, AND I THINK FRANK, THE CHAIR OF PARKS AND RECS, HAS ASKED FOR THEM. BECAUSE THEY REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO, AND IT'S 20 YEARS OLD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAY HAVE CHANGED, IF THERE WAS A TIME, AND I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. BECAUSE THAT GOES BACK TO DEDICATING THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. YOU CAN START SEARCHING. WELL, I'LL ASK CATHERINE A QUESTION. IF WE CAN'T COME UP WITH THAT DOCUMENTATION, BECAUSE I'M RATHER DUBIOUS AT THIS POINT, THAT WE EVER WILL FIND IT. I HAVE NOT CHECKED BACK THROUGH THE MINUTES AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE RECORDS. I MEAN, WHAT DO WE DO AT THAT POINT? TALKING ABOUT DEDICATION OF THE PRESERVE AS PARKLAND? YES. YOU COULD ALWAYS JUST... DEDICATED, IF THAT'S WHAT THE CITY WANTED TO DO. I'VE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH THE RECORDS THAT I HAVE, THAT ORDINANCES AND FIND ANYTHING. I THINK THIS SOUNDS LIKE AN AWESOME IDEA FOR A SUMMER IN TURN, SO I GUESS I WILL DO. WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ABOUT REFERRING US TO PARKS AND REC, OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT. WE REQUEST THAT THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION REVIEW THE CURRENT. THE NEW COLLIN COUNTY TRAILS PLAN AND THE PARKER 2015 APPROVED PLAN AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, IN CONJUNCTION WITH STAFF, [02:25:02] TO PROPOSE A NEW, I GUESS, 2026 TRAILS PLAN. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BARRON. OKAY, MISS HALBERT IS SECONDING THAT MOTION, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? JUST DO WE NEED TO GIVE ANY DIRECTION TO, UH, STAFF ON WHAT KIND OF AREAS TO LOOK TOWARDS? LIKE THE CENTER OF THE CITY, ALONG CREEKS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF KEY CREEKS, DUBLIN, MAXWELL, KEY CENTER PARTS OF THE CITY FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK AT. OR IS I ACTUALLY LIKED WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE AGENDA ITEM ABOUT DIRECTING THEM? TO EVALUATE PARKER'S RELEVANT CORRIDORS WITHIN THE REGIONAL NETWORK, IDENTIFY LAND, ACQUISITION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY PRESERVATION PROPERTIES AND EXPLORE FINANCING STRATEGIES. ARE YOU GOOD ENOUGH? OKAY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR VOTING ON. REFERRING TO PARKS AND RECS, THE TRAIL PLAN AS UPDATED, AND THE 2015 PLAN TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ALONG WITH STAFF. ON GOING FORWARD. ANYBODY THAT'S OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR... NO, LET ME SHOW THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. [20. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2026- 890 ADOPTING AGENDA PREPARATION PROCEDURES AND RESCINDING RESOLUTION NO. 2006-114.] ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES 4-0. OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM 20. CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-890... ADOPTING AGENDA, PREPARATION PROCEDURES AND RESCINDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2006-114. WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, COUNCIL, IS JUST UPDATING OUR OLD PROCEDURE AND PUTTING, I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD CODIFYING, BUT THAT MAY BE THE RIGHT WORD, WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO. AND MAKING SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT ANYBODY... COUNCIL CAN ASK FOR SOMETHING TO BE ON AN AGENDA, AND NOBODY ON THE AGENDA COMMITTEE IS GOING TO REJECT SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE THEY PERSONALLY MIGHT NOT LIKE IT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. SO I WOULD JUST SAY I THINK I WAS THE ONE HAD THE MOST CONFUSION ON THE PROCESS. AND I WENT THROUGH THIS AND I AM VERY HAPPY, OKAY WITH WHAT IT IS. I DON'T MEAN TO HURT ANYBODY'S FEELINGS, BUT I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THIS. I THINK THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS NOW, AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DYSFUNCTIONAL. THESE MEETINGS ARE EXTREMELY LONG, TAKES UP A LOT OF STAFF TIME, AND I THINK WE CAN DO IT MORE EFFICIENTLY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A WORKSHOP TO MAYBE DISCUSS SOME BETTER WAYS TO DO THIS, MAYBE GET SOME MORE INPUT FROM SOME STAFF. I JUST THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO IT AND BE MORE EFFICIENT. COULD WE ALSO MAYBE GET SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW VERSUS WHAT IS PROPER? AND I DON'T NEED THAT TONIGHT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SOME AGENDA MEETINGS ARE 30 MINUTES OR LESS. SOME OF THEM ARE MUCH LONGER. THE ONES WHERE EVERYBODY'S TALKING ARE MUCH LONGER, AND THEY DON'T NEED TO BE. WE SEND THINGS OUT ON SUNDAY NIGHT SO THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S PARTICIPATING ON THE AGENDA COMMITTEE KNOWS WHAT THE PROPOSED ITEMS ARE. AND THEN WE MEET TO PUT THEM IN ORDER. PATTY AND OR CATHERINE WILL TELL US. THAT'S NOT READY FOR THE AGENDA. WE DON'T HAVE TO BACK UP. CATHERINE, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. I'M JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE DRIVING. THIS AGENDA ITEM IS READY TO GO. WE NEED TO GET IT ON AGENDA, AS OPPOSED TO WE'RE REQUESTING IT, AND THEN THEY'RE SCRAMBLING, AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE READY. OKAY. THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK NOWADAYS IS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IS TO LET KENT KNOW, OR PATTY KNOW. I NEED THIS ITEM ON. AND THEY GIVE THEM A DATE CERTAIN IN TERMS OF WE NEED YOUR INFORMATION BY THIS TIME. OTHERWISE, IT'S NOT GOING ON THIS AGENDA. AND THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT IS CATHERINE. IF SHE SAYS, MY GOD, THIS HAS TO GO ON FOR LEGAL REASONS, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. BUT WE'VE HAD SOME [02:30:01] PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE UNHAPPY WITH US WHEN WE SAID... YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR STUFF HERE. WE'RE GOING TO POST, AND WE'RE NOT WAITING UNTIL FRIDAY AFTERNOON AT 4 O'CLOCK FOR YOU. I THINK IT WORKS. OKAY. I JUST FEEL THAT A LOT OF OUR AGENDAS ARE PUSHED FROM THE TOP DOWN, AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT FROM THE STAFF. LIKE YOU SAID, TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR, AND LET THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR, I MEAN, CAN YOU MAYBE GIVE US HOW YOU DID IT AT YOUR LAST CITY? DID YOU HAVE AN AGENDA COMMITTEE OF PEOPLE, OR HOW DID YOUR AGENDAS COME ABOUT, I GUESS I SHOULD ASK? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT. WELL, YEAH, WE WERE A SMALLER CITY AS WELL. BRUCE FERRETTI IS WHERE I CAME FROM PREVIOUSLY, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW. BUT THE PROCESS WAS THE AGENDA, ITEMS WERE PREPARED PRETTY MUCH BY MYSELF AND THE CITY SECRETARY. IN COORDINATION WITH THE MAYOR, WE REVIEWED THOSE ITEMS, MADE ADJUSTMENTS. PUSH SOME ITEMS TO A FUTURE IF THEY WEREN'T READY TO GO, IF IT WASN'T APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THEM THERE. TIME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEN AFTER THAT WE'RE STAFFING, RUN INTO THE RACES WITH GETTING EVERYTHING PUBLISHED. AND I SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. MOST OF THE AGENDA ITEMS COMES OFF OF THE FUTURE AGENDA LIST, AND THAT IS COUNCIL-DRIVEN. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE PUZZLE, BUT I THINK IT CAN BE RUN BETTER. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE... AS FAR AS THE REQUESTING OF WHAT GOES ON, LIKE, I LIKE A CHECK AND BALANCE WITH THAT. SO I THINK, LIKE, IF TWO COUNCIL PEOPLE REQUESTED IT GOES ON, THAT IT GOES ON, LIKE, THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE A, NO, IT'S NOT GOING ON. LIKE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. I'D LIKE, I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS, LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT I THINK WE COULD DISCUSS IN A WORKSHOP. YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO IT TONIGHT, BUT WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS, AND I'M NOT SAYING THESE ISSUES HAVE HAPPENED, BUT I SEE SEE POTENTIAL FOR PEOPLE TO ABUSE THIS TO DELAY ITEMS FROM APPEARING FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. SO THERE ARE THINGS I'M JUST NOT HAPPY WITH, SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT ARE IN HERE. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP LATER, I WILL GET THOSE SPELLED OUT BETTER SO WE CAN GO THROUGH. I'LL RESERVE MOST OF MY COMMENTS FOR A WORKSHOP AS WELL, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE, I THINK WE HAVE THREE CATEGORIES OF INFORMATION THAT'S GOING TO END UP, AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO NEED TO SHOW UP. STAFF GENERATED ITEMS, COUNCIL GENERATED ITEMS, AND LEGALLY MANDATORY ITEMS. AND I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THEM SHOULD BE COMING PROBABLY FROM STAFF, SAYING. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND WE NEED TO TAKE TO COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN GET. ACTION TAKEN ON A COUNCIL LEVEL OR DIRECTION, WHATEVER WE NEED. AND THEN THERE ARE ISSUES THAT JUST COUNCIL KNOWS WE NEED TO PUT ON THE AGENDA. BUT I WOULD RATHER SEE THE AGENDA BE MORE STAFF-DRIVEN AND LESS COUNCIL-DRIVEN, EXCEPT FOR KEY THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED. YEAH, RIGHT NOW, IT'S KIND OF A BLEND. AND SOME DAYS IT BLENDS WELL AND SOME DAYS IT DON'T. AND THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE LEGAL. BUT YEAH, WE CAN... CERTAINLY PUT THAT DOWN FOR A WORKSHOP. OKAY, SO WE WILL NOT TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT TONIGHT. OKAY. MOVING [21. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. 910 AMENDING AND REPLACING PORTIONS OF CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY’S CODE OF ORDINANCES; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH THIS SECTION; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.] TO ITEM NUMBER 21, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 910, AMENDING AND REPLACING PORTIONS OF CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY'S... CODE OF ORDINANCES REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH THIS SECTION IN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AND THIS IS A TRASH ORDINANCE, AND I'M GOING TO LET CATHERINE EXPLAIN THAT. YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN THE COVER LETTER. WHEN THIS WAS, THERE WERE CHANGES MADE, I WANT TO SAY IN 22, AND WHEN THOSE WERE ADOPTED, IT WASN'T CLEAR, ON THE FACE OF THE ORDINANCE, WHERE THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE CODIFIED. THERE WAS A LOGICAL PLACE TO PUT IT. THAT'S NOT WHERE IT WAS CODIFIED. IT WAS CODIFIED INTO THE PREVIOUS SECTION. AND SO THE CONSEQUENCE OF THAT IS THAT 03 AND 04 CONTRADICTED EACH OTHER, AND IT'S CAUSED CONFUSION, I THINK, FOR YOUR CITIZENS. THIS REALLY JUST CORRECTS IT SO THAT IT... IS PHRASED AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED. SO IT [02:35:03] TAKES OUT THE LANGUAGE WHERE IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CODIFIED AND PLACES IT IN 5304 TO REPLACE THE LANGUAGE THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO REPLACE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EXPLANATION WAS CLEAR AS MINE. IT'S TOO LATE FOR ME TO BE REALLY ARTICULATE. YOU DO HAVE A RED LINE, WHICH IS NOT RED, BUT YOU HAVE THE CHANGE DOCUMENT AS AN ATTACHMENT ALSO SO THAT YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT LANGUAGE IS MOVING AROUND. AND I DID THROW THAT UP ON THE OVERHEADS TO USE A THROWBACK TERM. IF NOBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. I HAVE A QUESTION. SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO CAN WE JUST NOT REPEAL THAT ORDINANCE AND THEN JUST SAY, HEY, HERE'S THE NEW WASTE COLLECTION ORDINANCE? WE COULD, BUT WE WOULD BE ADOPTING A LOT MORE THAN JUST THESE PROVISIONS. IF WE REPEALED EVERYTHING, THEN WE'D BE ADOPTING IT ALL NEW FROM WHOLE CLOTH. THIS IS JUST... MOVING BETWEEN THOSE TWO SECTIONS. BUT THEN, AS FAR AS TRACEABILITY GOES AND US GOING, OKAY, WHAT'S THE WASTE? THIS IS MAKING CHANGES TO THE CODIFIED ORDINANCE. ALL THE OTHER ORDINANCES ARE GONE. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO LOOK UP WASTE COLLECTION RULES. IT'S GOING TO BE CODIFIED IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND THAT WILL BE THE CORRECT RULE. OKAY, AND IT WILL BE EASY TO SEARCH THAT WAY. THIS IS MAKING IT EASIER TO SEARCH FOR THAT. YES. OKAY, GOT IT. MR. BARRON. I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. ORDINANCE NUMBER 910, AMENDING AND REPLACING PORTIONS OF CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH THIS SECTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARRON AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HALBERT. I CAN'T EVEN TALK ANYMORE. APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 910, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING [22. UPDATE(S)] ORDINANCE 910, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES 4-0. OKAY, NOW WE ARE TO UPDATES. GARY, YOU WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT... 2551? NOT MUCH IS CHANGING THERE. STILL ON SCHEDULE FOR MAY PAVING. OKAY. BEFORE I GO TO BUDDY, WHY DON'T I JUST GO AHEAD AND GET EVERYTHING OUT WITH YOU, GARY. HOW ABOUT LEWIS LANE? LEWIS LANE, I KNOW YOU'RE TRY TO START IT TOMORROW, THE WEATHER HASN'T BEEN COOPERATING, THEY WERE ALREADY WANTING TO BE STARTED ON IT. OF COURSE, IF THIS RAIN THAT I'M LOOKING AT, IT'S JUST TONIGHT THAT MAY DELAY IT A LITTLE BIT TO. THE STRIPING WAS SUPPOSED TO START THIS WEEK ALSO, BUT WE'VE DELAYED IT. BECAUSE WE WANT THE EDGES TO BE DRESSED UP AND THE SEED TO BE PUT DOWN AND ALL THAT STUFF TO BE DONE BEFORE THEY COME IN AND STRAP IT. IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF THEY'D ALREADY HAD THAT DONE, SO WE COULD WASH THE ROAD WITH THE RAIN AND THEN STRAP IT, BUT HERE WE ARE. STRIPING IS DELAYED UNTIL NEXT WEEK IF WE GET EVERYTHING DONE THIS WEEK. OKAY. DUBLIN? THAT WAS DUBLIN. IT'S DONE? NO, THAT WAS DUBLIN, THE STRIPING ON DUBLIN ROAD. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. NOW, THANK YOU, GARY. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MACHADO? OKAY. BETTY, YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT TCEQ? I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR RIGHT HERE. I THINK THE DATE IS, THE NEXT KEY DATE IS MARCH 27TH, WHICH IS WHEN THE PLAINTIFF'S REPLY BRIEF IS DUE FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT APPEAL IN AUSTIN. SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE OUR MESS REPORT. PROVIDE OUR PLAINTIFF'S REPLY FOR THE CITY BY THAT DATE TO THE APPLICANTS REPLY TO US. AND THEN THE NEXT THING ON IT IS THERE'S A, THEY'LL GET TO REPLY TO THAT OR RESPOND TO THAT. AND THEN THERE'S A MAY 2ND HEARING. NOTHING'S REALLY GOING ON ON THE MUD RIGHT NOW, EXCEPT IT'S A TIME FOR DISCOVERY. SO ANY DISCOVERY [02:40:02] WE'RE GOING TO SERVE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO START SERVING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. I HAD A QUESTION, BUT IT WENT OUT OF MY HEAD. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON TCEQ? [23.ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $1,000 [RES. NO. 2024-801])] OKAY. THEN, FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE ACCEPTING THE FOLLOWING DONATIONS FOR THE POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD. TROY TEERS DONATED PROTEIN BARS VALUED AT $15 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE [24. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] THANK MR. TEERS AND ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR HIS DONATION. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK IF THERE'S ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FROM COUNCIL. IS THE NEWSLETTER STILL ON THERE? I THINK THIS ONE. THE NEWSLETTER THAT WE HAD ICE DELAYS AND HAD TO CANCEL THE MEETINGS. IS THAT STILL ON THE LIST? NO. IT'S NOT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA. WELL, COMMUNICATIONS IS ON THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT THE NEWSLETTER IN PARTICULAR. NO, IT'S NOT. OKAY. SO I NOTICED ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT IT DIDN'T SAY COMMUNITY. THERE'S A DIFFERENT ONE THAT SHOULD BE UNDER THAT, THAT SAYS COMMUNICATIONS WITH RESIDENTS. OKAY. IF NOT, IT'LL BE THERE. I THOUGHT IT WAS ON, MAYBE. AND THEN ONE OTHER THING, I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT I WANTED PARKLAND DEDICATION PUT INTO OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ORDINANCES, WHAT'S IT CALLED? SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES. DO WE NEED TO HAVE A REQUEST FOR THAT, OR CAN STAFF JUST LOOK INTO THAT, OR HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? SO UPDATING THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IS A BIG ENDEAVOR. WE COULD PROBABLY DO JUST A COUPLE CAVEATS WHERE WE INSERT A COUPLE DIFFERENT PROVISIONS, BUT AN OVERHAUL OF THAT IS KIND OF WHAT I'M HEARING COUNCIL SAYING, BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT COME UP WHERE... HEY, WE NEED TO ADD THAT. HEY, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. AND IT DOES TAKE TIME FOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT. THAT IS A STATUTE THAT IS AUTHORIZED AND ALLOWED FOR US TO KIND OF WORK WITH. I BELIEVE ROXANNE ALSO WANTED, AS PART OF THAT, TREE REPLACEMENT WHEN DEVELOPERS TEAR DOWN TREES. YES. IF THEY REMOVE A TREE, THEY'VE GOT TO REPLACE IT WITH TWO, OR DONATE MONEY FOR PARKS OR WHATEVER. SAY THAT AGAIN. TREE REMOVAL, LIKE IF THEY TAKE DOWN TREES TO DEVELOP THE LAND, LIKE IF THEY TAKE OUT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TREES, THEY HAVE TO REPLACE CERTAIN WITH A NUMBER OF TREES. GARY, DON'T WE HAVE A TREE PLAN? WE DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY DO THAT. WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THESE TABLES ARE DEVELOPED, BUT IT'S NOT THAT SPECIFIC. OKAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ORDER. SOMETHING IN OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT SAYS THEY CAN'T JUST GO IN. THE NUMBER OF TREES REQUIRED IS BASICALLY A LOT. OKAY. NOT REPLACING TREES. THANKS FOR REMINDING ME, BILLY. MY POINT IN THAT IS THE TREE ORDINANCE, OR WHATEVER IT IS IN OUR SUBDIVISION PLAN HASN'T BEEN LOOKED AT IN YEARS. TO BE UPDATED AND WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING WOULD GO RIGHT WITH THAT, I THINK. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? BUDDY. YES, MADAM MAYOR. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS A WHILE AGO WHEN YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE TCEQ UPDATE. AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND HOPEFULLY OUR CITIZENS KNOW, WE PUT OUT THAT TRANSPARENCY STATEMENT EARLIER IN THE WEEK. TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOME UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY ENGAGING IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE HUFFINES, WHICH ARE... THE PEOPLE BEHIND BOTH THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PERMIT AND THE MUD APPLICATION. AND THAT PROCESS IS STILL ONGOING AND WE NEED TO RELEASE A STATEMENT TO THE CITIZENS, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE'LL DO, I THINK, TOMORROW, ABOUT A PROPOSED LIST OF THE CONDITIONS AND ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE NEGOTIATED ON. THESE ARE NOT FINAL POINTS. THEY'RE A LIST OF CONDITIONS AND POINTS OF AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO REACH ON THAT. IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO SETTLE IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SO THAT NEEDS TO GO OUT TO THE CITIZENS AS WELL. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? SO, SPECIFICALLY, I AM ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TONIGHT. SO MAYBE, AT LEAST... 15 TO 20 MINUTES AT [02:45:02] A MINIMUM WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO AS FAST AS I CAN. OKAY. WE ARE NOW GOING TO RECESS TO CLOSE THE OBJECTIVE SESSION. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071, CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION OR A SETTLEMENT OFFER OR TWO. CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY, UNDER THE TEXAS RULES OF DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS, CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER. ON ANY OF THE ITEMS LISTED ELSEWHERE IN THE AGENDA AND OR WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER LISTED BELOW. COCOA LANE LITIGATION, RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, SLASH MUD, PARKS, TRAILS, ANNEXATION. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 TO DELIBERATE THE EVALUATION DUTIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE, CITY ADMINISTRATOR. [EXECUTIVE SESSION START TO FINISH (Part 2 of 2)] WE ARE NOW IN RECESS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT IS 1025. WE ARE RECONVENING THE [RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING (Part 2 of 2)] REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF THE CITY OF PARKER. IT IS 1035 P.M. COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION OR DELIBERATION ON ANY OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION SUBJECTS LISTED ABOVE? NO, MADAM MAYOR. OKAY. NOT HEARING ANYTHING ELSE, WE ARE ADJOURNED. IT IS 10.46. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT, EVERYBODY. GOOD NIGHT. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.