Jan 20, 2026 City Council

>> I HEREBY CALL

[CALL TO ORDER]

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IT IS JANUARY 20, 2026 AT 6:00 P.M. AT THIS TIME, I ASK MS. HALL.

DO I HAVE A QUORUM?

>> YES, MADAM MAYOR. WE HAVE A QUORUM.

>> AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO TO OUR WORKSHOP AND I SEE MARGARET SOMEREVE HERE.

[WORKSHOP]

>> I DO.

>> FEEL FREE. GO AHEAD.

>>> MAYOR, COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M MARGARET SOMEREVE.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR TCAP, THE TEXAS COALITION FOR AFFORDABLE POWER.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK TONIGHT ABOUT THE ELECTRIC GRID, WHAT WE DO FOR YOU ALL, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PARKER SPECIFICALLY, PLEASE INTERRUPT ME ANY TIME YOU WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT THROWN AT YOU, AND IF WE WAIT TILL THE END, YOU MAY FORGET YOUR QUESTION.

REAL QUICK, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE GRID.

WHAT IS THE ENERGY GRID? YOU HEAR THAT A LOT, ESPECIALLY PROBABLY HEARING IT NOW WITH OUR WEATHER EVENT COMING THIS WEEKEND.

WE SHOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD IN 2021.

WE ARE IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE THAN WE WERE THEN.

BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE NATIONAL GRID.

YOU CAN SEE ERCOT IS THAT TEAL COLOR.

WE'RE SOLELY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF TEXAS.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE OVERSIGHT FROM THE FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION.

BECAUSE WE DO NOT GO ACROSS STATE LINES, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS NO AUTHORITY IN TEXAS ON OUR ENERGY GRID.

THE ERCOT AND THE LEGISLATURE LIKE IT THAT WAY.

WHEN YOU HERE, IF WE'D BEEN INTERCONNECTED, THE 21 STORM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE LOST POWER.

THAT'S NOT TRUE EITHER BECAUSE BIG SECTIONS OF LOUISIANA, ARKANSAS, OKLAHOMA, AND INTO KANSAS ALSO LOST POWER DURING THAT STORM, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE GRAYS, THE EASTERN INTERCONNECT.

NEXT SLIDE. WHO IS ERCOT? NO ONE EVER HEARD OF THEM BEFORE 2021 WHEN WE HAD THE STORM, NOW EVERYBODY KNOWS COT.

THEY'RE THE ELECTRIC RELIABILITY COUNCIL OF TEXAS, THEY SEE THE GRID.

THEY MAKE SURE THAT THE LIGHTS STAY ON THAT THE GRID IS RUNNING THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE RUN.

THEY ARE OVERSEEN BY THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION, AND THE PUC AND THE ERCOT COMMISSIONERS ARE ALL APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR.

THEY ARE BASICALLY WHAT WE CALL THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS OF THE ENERGY GRID.

THEY DON'T PRODUCE POWER, THEY DON'T BUY POWER.

THEY JUST TELL THE GENERATORS WE NEED MORE POWER OVER HERE, WE NEED LESS POWER OVER HERE, JUST SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN 60 HERTZ ON THE GRID AT ALL TIMES.

YOU CAN SEE ABOUT 90% OF ALL OF TEXAS IS IN ERCOT, 27 MILLION CUSTOMERS IN THE ERCOT REGION.

RIGHT NOW, THEIR RECORD PEAK WAS 85,000 MEGAWATTS, WE'RE PEAKING EVEN MORE AS AI AND BITCOIN CONTINUE TO GROW IN THE DATA CENTERS, AND THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN THAT AS THOSE DATA CENTERS GET BUILT, NOT ONLY ARE THEY ENERGY HOGS, THE WATER HOGS.

EVERYBODY'S REALLY WATCHING THAT.

ERCOT HAS BEEN WATCHING THEM.

THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE AI DATA CENTERS IS THAT THEY MAY SAY, WE MAY BUILD IT IN PARIS, TEXAS, WE MAY BUILD IT IN ODESSA, OR WE MAY BUILD IT IN CORPUS CHRISTI.

ERCOT'S BEEN COUNTING THAT THREE TIMES, EVEN THOUGH THAT COMPANY IS ONLY GOING TO BUILD IT ONCE.

THAT'S CAUSED SOME CONFUSION AS WELL WHEN ERCOT IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH ENERGY WE NEED IN THE GRID.

THEY'RE STARTING TO REALLY HOLD THOSE AI CENTERS ACCOUNTABLE AND SAY, HOW MANY ARE YOU ACTUALLY BUILDING? WE'RE ONLY GOING TO COUNT AT ONCE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO COUNT AT THREE TIMES.

IF YOU HEARD LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE, WHEN ERCOT WAS REALLY WORRYING ABOUT THE AI CENTERS, THEY WERE QUADRUPLING AND DOUBLE-COUNTING A LOT OF THESE AI CENTERS.

NEXT SLIDE. A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF ELECTRICITY IN TEXAS.

THE FIRST POWER PLANT WAS BUILT IN TEXAS IN THE 1880S IN THE CITY OF GALVESTON.

IN THE 1890S, HOUSTON, SAN ANTONIO, EL PASO, DFW, AND AUSTIN HAVE ELECTRIC LIGHTS.

IN 1935, FDR SIGNS THE RURAL ELECTRIFICATION ACT.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ACT THAT SAID THAT LIGHTS NEEDED TO GET INTO THE RURAL AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN TEXAS.

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IN THE 1940S, WE HAD THE TEXAS INTERCONNECT SYSTEM, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE ERCOT.

IT WAS TRYING TO KEEP ALL THE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS IN ONE PLACE BACK THEN, YOU HAD THE RURAL COOPS., YOU HAD DALLAS DID THEIR OWN THING, AUSTIN DID THEIR OWN THING, AND IT GREW FROM THERE.

YOU ALL WERE INCORPORATED IN 1969, AND ERCOT FORMS IN 1970.

IN 1975, THE TEXAS PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION IS FORMED TO OVERSEE THIS IN 1999, DEREGULATION HAPPENS.

WE WENT FROM AT THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS STILL IN THE COOP.

THERE WAS A POWER PLANT, THE UTILITY COMPANY YOU KNEW WHO YOUR PROVIDER WAS.

THE CO-OPS STILL WORK THAT WAY.

BUT THE REST OF THE STATE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT A MUNICIPALLY OWNED UTILITY LIKE GARLAND OR ARE IN A COOP, YOU HAVE YOUR CHOICE NOW AND THAT ROLLED OUT IN 2001.

WHEN YOU HAVE CHOICE, YOU CAN PICK WHOEVER IS OUT THERE IN THE MARKET THROUGH A RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDER.

AGAIN, YOU ALL KNOW BETTER THAN I DO, YOU'RE SERVED BY ONCORE, WHERE THERE IS CHOICE.

FARMERS ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE AND GRAYSON-COLLIN COUNTY COOPERATIVE.

BOTH OF THE COOPERATIVES ARE MONOPOLIES.

YOU DO NOT HAVE CHOICE IF YOU LIVE IN THOSE AREAS.

JUST BECAUSE PARKER WAS VERY RURAL BACK IN THE '30S, WHAT HAPPENS IS HOW THEY DECIDE WHO GETS WHAT IS WHO GETS THERE AND WANTS TO SERVE IT.

IF, FOR SOME REASON, A NEW DEVELOPMENT OR A NEW CUSTOMER COMES IN AND FARMER SAYS, I DON'T WANT IT, GRAYSON COULD SAY, WE'LL GO OUT AND WE'LL RUN THE LINE TO THEM, OR IT COULD BE THAT ONCORE HAS LINES CLOSER AND ONCORE GRAB THEM.

IT BECOMES A REAL PATCHWORK OF WHO'S GOING TO SERVE, IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M TALKING TO THE MAYOR THAT YOU ALL ARE REALLY A HUGE PATCHWORK OUT HERE.

UNFORTUNATELY, NOBODY'S GOING TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE THEIR LINES RUN FOR SECURITY REASONS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU THAT OUR LINE RUNS HERE, AND NEXT DOOR'S LINE IS ONCORE.

SECURITY AND PROPRIETARY REASONS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU EXACT MAPS.

IT DOES MAKE IT HARDER, ESPECIALLY OUT HERE, TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT, WHERE DO I LIVE.

COLLIN COUNTY DID DEVELOP THIS MAP.

I THINK WHAT THEY DID WAS JUST TAKE THE SERVICE AREAS AND OVERLAY THEM ONTO A STREET MAP, SO IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE WHERE THINGS ARE GOING, BUT AGAIN, YOU COULD HAVE ONCORE, ONE HOUSE IN NEXT DOOR.

IT COULD BE FARMERS. JUST THE WAY THE LINES WERE LAID OUT.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO TCAP IS.

TCAP, [LAUGHTER] WE HAVE 173 MEMBERS THROUGHOUT ERCOT.

WE HAVE 95 IN THE NORTH ONE.

THE NORTH ONE IS PRETTY MUCH WACO ALL THE WAY TO OKLAHOMA.

WE HAVE A BOARD THAT IS ELECTED FROM OUR MEMBERSHIP, AND WE JUST HAD ELECTIONS.

THIS IS OUR CURRENT BOARD.

THOSE REPRESENTING THE NORTH TEXAS AREA ARE LOUISVILLE, HURST, LANCASTER, AND FT.

I THINK THOSE ARE IT.

BUT WE HAVE ELECTIONS EVERY YEAR.

HALF OF THE BOARD IS UP EVERY YEAR, AND ANYONE CAN RUN ELECTED OFFICIALS OR STAFF.

WHY TCAP? WHY SHOULD PARKER BE A MEMBER? WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT? WE'RE A NONPROFIT POLITICAL SUBDIVISION ORGANIZATION.

WE'RE ACTUALLY WRITTEN INTO THE 1999 DEREGULATION BILL.

WE POOL OVER ONE BILLION KILOWATTS OF ENERGY TO NEGOTIATE LOWER RATES, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE NEGOTIATING THEM IN THE WHOLESALE MARKET.

WE DO NOT GET OUR ELECTRICITY CONTRACT IN THE RETAIL MARKET.

WE HAVE AN ATTRACTIVE LOAD PROFILE.

A LOT OF TIMES, IT'S NOT HOW MUCH ENERGY YOU USE, IT'S HOW YOU USE THE ENERGY.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE TWO GREEN GRAPHS ON THE LEFT, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT MEMBERS.

YOU CAN SEE THE TOP ONE USES MORE POWER IN THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.

IT COULD BE WATER TREATMENT, WASTEWATER TREATMENT, DEFINITELY STREET LIGHTS.

THE MEMBER AT THE BOTTOM IS A SMALLER MEMBER, BUT YOU SEE THAT THEY'RE USING MORE POWER IN THE 8-5.

YOU SEE THAT BIG ARCH THERE IN THE MIDDLE.

THEY'RE USING MORE POWER IN THE 8-5 HOURS.

YOU SEE THE PEAKS AGAIN ON THE OVERNIGHT HOURS, BUT AGAIN, STILL MORE IN THE 8-5 HOURS.

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THE FLATTER THE LINE YOU CAN GET TO BUY A CONTRACT WITH, THE BETTER YOUR PRICING IS BECAUSE YOU CAN BUY IT IN BLOCKS, AND YOU'RE NOT HAVING AS MUCH WIGGLE IN THE GRAPH, SO TO SPEAK.

THE ERCOT ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE BLUE LINE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE PRETTY FLAT, NOT QUITE THERE.

THE RED LINE IS HOW ERCOT AS A WHOLE USES POWER.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IT PEAKS IN THE 4:00-5:00, 6:00 P.M. RANGE.

USUALLY, IN THE PAST, THAT'S WHEN YOU HEAR ERCOT SAY THEY WANT ENERGY CONSERVATION.

BECAUSE THEY'RE PEAKING AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH POWER ON THE GRID, NECESSARILY.

IT'S ALSO WHEN SOLAR STARTS RAMPING DOWN BECAUSE THE SUN'S GOING DOWN.

THE OTHER THING ABOUT OUR LOAD IS YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF POWER THAT WE USE IN THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.

WE'RE ALSO ABLE WHEN WE GO OUT INTO THE MARKET, THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN BUY A LOT MORE BLOCK POWER FOR US IN THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT RED CURVE LIKE THEY DO FOR A LOT OF CUSTOMERS.

THAT REALLY HELPS KEEP THE TCAP PRICES LOWER.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE CALL THEM MEMBERS BECAUSE MOST OF OUR MEMBERSHIP IS CITIES, BUT WE DO HAVE OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF OUR GROUP.

BUT IF THOSE TWO MEMBERS ACTUALLY USE THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY, I KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT GRAPHS.

THE BOTTOM ONE IS MUCH SMALLER.

BUT LET'S SAY THEY USE THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY.

THEY WANTED THE EXACT SAME CONTRACT ON THE EXACT SAME DAY FOR THE EXACT SAME LENGTH OF TIME.

THE MEMBER ON THE TOP IS GOING TO GET A BETTER CONTRACT THAN THE MEMBER ON THE BOTTOM, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF HOW THEY USE THE POWER.

THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE MORE IN THAT OVERNIGHT HOUR.

THE MEMBER AT THE BOTTOM, BECAUSE THEY'RE USING MORE POWER WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS USING POWE, R IS GOING TO PAY A PREMIUM.

THAT HELPS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO FLATTEN EVERYBODY OUT AND GET THEM A BETTER PRICE BECAUSE WE AGGREGATE EVERYBODY TOGETHER. YES.

>> I THINK I GOT LOST SOMEWHERE.

IS THE CITY BUYING POWER FROM THE LAW IS THAT?

>> WE GET TWO YEAR CONTRACT.

>> PLEASE, TURN THE MIC ON.

>> WE DO ALL THE WORK.

[LAUGHTER] I'LL EXPLAIN HOW WE BUY OUR CONTRACTS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE DO ALL THE WORK FOR YOU, AND THIS IS FOR YOUR CITY OWNED FACILITIES THAT ARE IN ONCORE.

WE CAN ONLY DO YOUR POWER IN ONCORE.

>> I KNOW ON THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL MARKET, YOU CAN HIRE A BROKER.

I'VE DONE SO. SO YOU'RE LIKE THAT?

>> WE ARE LIKE A BROKER, BUT WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT AND THIS IS PERFECT TIMING FOR THE SLIDE.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE A MUNICIPAL BUYER, AND THEN YOU HAVE DIFFERENT CHOICES.

YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO A RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDER, AND AGAIN, YOU'RE BUYING A CONTRACT ON YOUR OWN, HOW YOUR LOAD LOOKS.

YOU CAN GO TO A BROKER.

THE THING ABOUT BROKERS, ESPECIALLY IN THE COMMERCIAL MARKET IS THEY MAY TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AN RFP AND GET YOU THE BEST PRICE, BUT A LOT OF THE BROKERS HAVE FAVORED PROVIDERS BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT NOT ONLY DOES THE BROKER GET A FEE FROM THE CITY, THEY ALSO GET A FEE FROM THE PROVIDER THAT THEY TAKE THE CONTRACT TO.

TCAP DOES NOT GET A FEE.

FOR WE CHARGE AN AGGREGATION FEE.

IT'S ON YOUR BILL. IT'S 1.2 MILL A CENT PER KILOWATT.

FOR THAT, YOU GET ALL THESE ADDITIONAL SERVICES.

THE BROKERS DO NOT PAY TCAP A FEE TO BRING THEM THE BUSINESS.

A LOT OF THE BROKERS WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY'VE GONE TO THE MARKET, THEY'VE SEARCHED THE MARKET, AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FAVORED RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDER IS THE ONE THAT COMES UP BECAUSE THEY GET FEES OFF OF THEM.

BECAUSE WE'RE NONPROFIT AND BECAUSE OUR WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO HELP CITIES.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE MONEY.

JUST LAST WEEK, THEY BROUGHT A REFUND CHECK.

WE JUST DID REFUND CHECKS TO OUR MEMBERSHIP THIS YEAR, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

>> THAT WAS WONDERFUL. [LAUGHTER]

>> AGAIN, THE MEMBERSHIP SERVICES THAT WE DO FOR THAT VERY SMALL AGGREGATION FEE, WHICH HAS STAYED THE SAME SINCE 2020, AND WE JUST DID OUR BUDGET FOR THE BOARD, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO STAY THAT WAY THROUGH '28.

WE DO ANNUAL BUDGET ESTIMATES FOR YOUR ELECTRICITY.

WE'LL DO ASSISTING WITH STATE REPORTING BECAUSE PARKER IS IN A NON-ATTAINMENT AREA.

YOU'RE REQUIRED TO FILL OUT THE SECO, THE STATE ENERGY CONSERVATION OFFICE REPORT, EVERY YEAR.

YOU HAVE ACCESS TO OUR CONSULTANTS AT NO ADDITIONAL COST.

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WE'LL REVIEW THOSE CONTRACTS AT NO ADDITIONAL COST.

WE ALSO DO ENERGY CONSERVATION PROGRAMS. WE'LL HELP WITH THAT.

WE HAVE OUR OWN BILLING PORTAL, SO YOU CAN GET IN THERE, DOWNLOAD ANY TYPE OF REPORTS OR INFORMATION YOU WANT.

WE HAVE MONTHLY WEBINARS.

OUR NEXT WEBINAR IS ACTUALLY NEXT FRIDAY AT 9:00 A.M., AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE NEW GEXA BILLING FORMAT.

GEXA IS OUR RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDER.

THEY DO NOT GET OUR CONTRACT FOR US.

THEY ARE STRICTLY OUR BILLING PARTNER.

SO IF GEXA DOES NOT DO A GOOD JOB IN CUSTOMER SERVICE, WE CAN GET RID OF GEXA, BUT WE DON'T GET RID OF THE PRICE ON THE CONTRACT. THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE.

>> BUT GEXA IS ROLLING OUT A NEW BILLING FORMAT AND A NEW BILLING PORTAL.

NEXT FRIDAY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE BILL.

THEN IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO DO A EXERCISE AND HOW TO FOR THE NEW BILLING PORTAL.

THOSE ARE OUR MONTHLY WEBINARS.

WE'LL DO WEBINARS ON HOW TO FILL OUT A SCO REPORT.

WE'VE DONE WEBINARS.

WE'VE HAD ENCORE COME IN AND TALK ABOUT POWER FACTOR AND WHAT TDSP CHARGES MEAN.

ALL OF THESE ARE ON OUR WEBSITE.

YOU CAN GO BACK AND WATCH ANY OF THEM.

WE HAVE A PEER ELECTED BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

YOU'VE GOT A BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT HAS TO TAKE BACK ANYTHING THEY DECIDE TO THEIR CITIES.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING THAT THEY CAN'T TAKE BACK TO THEIR CITIES.

THEN WE ALSO TCAP HAS A VOICE OF THE LEGISLATURE, THE PEC, ERCOTT, AND THE RAILROAD COMMISSION.

LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WE GOT HOUSE BILL 2962 INTRODUCED.

IT WAS TO EXEMPT THE GROSS RECEIPTS TAX FROM ELECTRICITY BILLS.

THE STATE EXEMPT SCHOOL DISTRICTS SEVERAL SESSIONS AGO, BUT LEFT CITIES ALONE.

TCAP AS A WHOLE PAYS ABOUT $2.2 MILLION IN GROSS RECEIPTS TAX, SO WE'RE STILL WE'RE GOING TO AGAIN INTRODUCE IT NEXT SESSION.

WE THOUGHT THIS SESSION WOULD BE GOOD SINCE THE STATE HAD SO MUCH MONEY, BUT NOT SO MUCH.

THEN RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION ON COMMERCIAL SERVICE STANDARDS.

THERE ARE CUSTOMER SERVICE STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS.

THOSE WERE PUT INTO LAW.

THE PEC IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT RESIDENTS, OF COURSE, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED TO TRY AND BUY AN ELECTRIC BILL.

YOU CAN PAY FOR A BROKER TO DO BUT A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE ON THEIR OWN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

UNFORTUNATELY, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, THE LEGISLATURE FELT, WELL, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, THEY'VE GOT STAFF, THEY CAN FIGURE IT OUT.

THEY DIDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SMALL CITIES.

WE HAVE CITIES IN OUR MEMBERSHIP WITH POPULATIONS OF 126 PEOPLE.

WHICH HAS A PART TIME MAYOR AND MAYBE TWO STAFF MEMBERS.

THESE ARE NOT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE THE EXPERTISE, THE MANPOWER, OR THE TIME TO BE WORRYING ABOUT ELECTRICITY CONTRACTS.

THAT IS ANOTHER BENEFIT OF BEING IN TCAP IS WE'LL TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THAT.

WE'RE ALSO JUST YOUR RESOURCE FOR ANYTHING, ELECTRICITY.

WE'VE HELPED WITH UNCLE FRANCHISES.

WE'VE HELPED WITH ANYTHING REGARDING ELECTRICITY. YES.

>> A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP STRUCTURE.

YOU'RE A NON-PROFIT.

YOU'RE NOT A MUTUAL COMPANY.

OPERATE LIKE A MUTUAL COMPANY.

WE WE CONSIDERED MEMBERS, CUSTOMERS?

>> WE SAY MEMBERS.

WE ARE WRITTEN INTO THE LAW.

WE'RE WRITTEN INTO SECTION 34 IS AN ENERGY AGGREGATION, BUT THE LAW POINTS OUT A NON-PROFIT POLITICAL SUBDIVISION CORPORATION. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.

>> YOU MENTIONED THE REBATE CHICKS THAT YOU GET LIKE IN A MUTUAL COMPANY, LIKE A MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY, YOU GET DIVIDENDS EACH YEAR BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE POLICIES WITH A MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY ARE THE OWNERS OF THE COMPANY.

I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NON-PROFIT, BUT I'VE GOT A NON-PROFIT TOO AND I ALWAYS REMIND PEOPLE NON-PROFIT DOESN'T MEAN OPERATE FOR A LOSS.

IT JUST MEANS YOU DON'T DISTRIBUTE PROFITS IN THE NORMAL WAY OF A FOR PROFIT CORPORATION.

HOW MUCH OF YOUR I'LL CALL IT EXCESS MARGIN THEN, DO YOU DISTRIBUTE BACK TO THE MEMBERS AS A PERCENTAGE EACH YEAR?

>> WE DON'T EACH YEAR. WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY GIVEN REFUNDS.

THE LAST TIME WE GAVE REFUNDS WAS IN 2017.

WHAT WE DO, LET ME SEE.

WHAT WE DO IS PART OF WE SET YOUR ELECTRIC RATE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT WE SET YOUR ELECTRIC RATE.

IT'S A STABLE THING.

WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE A SMALL FEE IN THERE FOR EVERYTHING ERCOT,

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WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT IS THAT WE TRUE THAT UP EVERY QUARTER.

FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY.

WE'VE SET $4 A MEGAWATT IN YOUR RATE, JUST MAKE THIS EASY.

ERCOT COMES IN AND SAYS, ALL OF THE ANCILLARY COSTS AND CONGESTION COSTS FOR THIS QUARTER WERE $3.

THAT'S $1 EXTRA THAT YOU ALL PAID IN.

WE PUT THAT INTO BASICALLY, I WON'T CALL IT A TRUE ESCROW ACCOUNT, BUT WE PUT THAT INTO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT, AND IT SITS THERE.

COLLECTING INTEREST, AND THEN LET'S SAY THE NEXT QUARTER, IT COMES IN.

YOU'VE STILL PAID THAT $4, BUT THE NEXT QUARTER, IT COMES IN AT $6.

WE DON'T ALL OF A SUDDEN SAY, CITY OF PARKER, YOU OWE US $2 MORE MEGAWATT.

WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF THE ESCROW ACCOUNT AND WE PAY THAT BILL.

NOBODY ELSE IN THE MARKET TRUES UP THEIR ANCILLARY SERVICES THE WAY WE DO.

BUT AGAIN, IT WAS TRYING TO KEEP YOUR BILL AS STABLE AS POSSIBLE, NOT HAVE ANY UNEXPECTED COSTS.

WHEN THAT ACCOUNT HAS GOTTEN TOO LARGE, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE ACCOUNT WE'VE DONE REFUNDS OUT OF.

WITH THE BOARD CONSULTS WITH OUR ENERGY CONSULTANTS.

IT'S LIKE, HOW MUCH MONEY SHOULD WE GIVE OUT OF THAT ACCOUNT? WE WILL STILL BE OKAY.

WE HAVE TO KEEP AT LEAST 1 MILLION IN THAT ACCOUNT AT ALL TIMES PER OUR CONTRACT.

THE REASON I SAY THE LAST TIME WE GAVE ANYTHING OUT WAS LATE 2017.

THE MARKET STARTED CHANGING IN 2018, AND THEN IT DEFINITELY CHANGED IN 2021.

WE ACTUALLY THAT ACCOUNT GOT DOWN TO ZERO BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE QUARTERLY AMOUNTS WE WERE PAYING FOR THE MEMBERSHIP.

WE'RE SLOWLY BUILDING IT BACK UP.

WE HAVEN'T GIVEN ANY REFUNDS OUT OF THAT ACCOUNT.

BUT THE REFUNDS THAT WE HAVE GIVEN OUT IS FROM JUST OUR OPERATING ACCOUNT.

OPERATING ACCOUNT GOT UP ALMOST NEAR $3 MILLION.

I BECAME EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IN 2020.

WE CHANGED THE WAY WE WERE DOING A LOT OF THINGS, DEFINITELY TRYING TO LOOK FOR COST SAVINGS, DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY, REALLY HOLDING ALIGN TO SOME THINGS, AND SO WE REALLY STARTED SEEING A LOT OF SAVINGS IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE MONEY THAT WE GAVE BACK TO OUR MEMBERSHIP.

WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT 750,000 TOTAL.

WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE THE $750,000.

WE DIVIDE IT OUT BY OUR MEMBERSHIP BY THEIR KILOWATTS.

PER KILOWATT, THAT'S HOW WE GIVE THE MONEY BACK.

IT'S A SUBJECTIVE WHEN WE DECIDE TO DO REFUNDS, HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO GIVE BACK.

BUT IT'S ALWAYS BASED ON HOW MANY KILOWATTS THE CITY PURCHASES BASED ON EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ORGANIZATION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> HOW WE'RE PURCHASING ELECTRICITY? WE CALL IT STRATEGIC PURCHASING.

IN THE PAST, AGAIN, PRIOR TO THE WINTER STORM IN 2021, IT WAS VERY EASY TO PICK A DAY BUY ELECTRICITY FOR THREE, FIVE YEARS AND YOU WERE SET.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU HOPE THAT YOU PICKED THE RIGHT DAY.

BECAUSE THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS ALL THE DIFFERENT PRICE CHANGES.

PRIOR TO THE WINTER STORM, PRICES CHANGED EVERY DAY.

AFTER THE WINTER STORM, THEY COULD CHANGE THREE AND FOUR AND FIVE TIMES A DAY.

YOU HAVE TO SIGN THE CONTRACT THE DAY IT'S GIVEN TO YOU BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT A DAY, THE PRICES CHANGE AND THE CONTRACTS NOT VALID ANYMORE.

YOU HOPE YOU'RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT LINE, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOU'RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT LINE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN YOU SEE ALL THE RATES COME IN.

THE RED LINE, HOWEVER, IS THE AVERAGE FOR EACH OF THOSE YEARS.

YOU SEE THAT RED LINE IS A LOT MORE STABLE THAN THE BLUE LINE.

WE STARTED SEEING THIS BACK IN YOU CAN SEE 2015, 2016, WE STARTED SEEING THIS.

WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE'RE BUYING ONE YEAR CONTRACTS TWO YEARS IN ADVANCE, AND THAT IS THE LOWEST CONTRACT IN THE MARKET.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IF YOU GO OUT LONGER AND THIS WAS ALWAYS THE CASE, EVEN WHEN TCAP HAD FIVE YEAR CONTRACTS.

THEY PUT WHAT'S CALLED A CARRION CHARGE IN THERE, WHAT IFS FOR THE CONTRACT.

IF NOTHING HAPPENS, THAT JUST BECOMES PROFIT TO THE GENERATOR.

WE DECIDED THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.

WE WANTED TO GET AS MUCH MONEY BACK, KEEP IT IN YA'S HANDS AND NOT IN THE GENERATOR'S HANDS.

THAT CARRYING CHARGE GOES AWAY.

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THE NICE THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHEN PRICES FALL.

UNFORTUNATELY, SINCE THE WINTER STORM, IT'S EDGED UP EVERY YEAR JUST A LITTLE BIT.

WE WEREN'T EXPECTING THAT, BUT THEN AGAIN, WE WEREN'T EXPECTING THE WINTER STORM.

WE WEREN'T EXPECTING RUSSON, BEI UKRAINE, WHICH HAS CAUSED A LOT OF CATASTROPHES, NOT CATASTROPHE, BUT A LOT OF CHAOS IN THE MARKET AS OUR LIQUID NATURAL GAS IS GETTING SHIPPED TO EUROPE.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT YOU GET TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHEN PRICES FALL.

YOU'RE NEVER THAT FAR OUT OF THE MARKET.

I WAS TALKING TO A CITY TODAY, WHO'S LOOKING AT JOINING TCAP, AND THEY'VE GOT ONE OF THOSE PRE-21 RATES.

THEY'RE AT A FOUR CENT RATE, AND NOW THEY'RE COMING INTO A EIGHT AND NINE CENT MARKET, AND THAT'S A HUGE INCREASE FOR ANY ONE CITY TO TAKE ON, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

WITH THE WAY WE'RE DOING THINGS, YOU'RE BELOW THE CURRENT MARKET RATE, BUT YOU'RE IN THE MARKET, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BE WAY OFF.

WHEN PRICES FALL, YOU GET TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT FOR THE SAVINGS AS WELL BECAUSE ONCE YOU LOCK IN A LONG TERM CONTRACT, YOU CAN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHEN PRICES FALL, AND WE SAW THAT WITH FRACKING.

TCAP WAS LOCKED INTO A CONTRACT AT THE TIME.

FRACKING HAPPENED AND RATES DROPPED BY 50%.

WE WENT FROM A SEVEN CENT MARKET TO A THREE CENT MARKET, AND OUR MEMBERSHIP WAS GOING, WE NEED THIS $0.03, AND WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE IN A CONTRACT, PAYING TO GET OUT OF IT'S MUCH TOO EXPENSIVE.

THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO SIT AND WAIT AND BIDE YOUR TIME.

WE'RE STRATEGIC PURCHASING, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. A COUPLE OF THINGS.

CONTRACTS ARE EXEMPT FROM BIDDING.

STATE LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO BID A CONTRACT.

THE PROBLEM IS, THE REASON IS YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE FINE PRINT IN THE CONTRACT AND HOW IT CAN AFFECT THE RATE, JUST BECAUSE YOU DO AN RFP SHEET AND THIS LOOKS LIKE THE LOWEST RATE.

THERE COULD BE SOME LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT THAT COULD NEGATE THAT LOW RATE OR ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU DO SOMETHING IN PARKER, LET'S SAY YOU TEAR DOWN CITY HALL AND YOU BUILD SOMETHING BIGGER, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE PROVIDER COULD SAY, WELL, YOU DELETED THAT METER SO THAT MEANS WE CAN OPEN UP THE CONTRACT AND RAISE YOUR RATES.

THAT'S WHY THEY EXEMPT IT FROM BIDDING.

A LOWER RFP PRICE COULD ACTUALLY BE HIGHER, HOW THE CONTRACT IS WRITTEN.

DIFFERENT BROKERS AND REPS CALL THE SAME THING DIFFERENT NAMES.

THE OTHER THING IS OFF THE SHELF CONTRACTS DON'T HELP CITIES.

YOU HAVE A THE CITY HAS A COMMERCIAL ENERGY SERVICE AGREEMENT.

THEY HAVE COMMERCIAL AGREEMENTS AND THEY HAVE RESIDENTIAL AGREEMENTS.

IF THE CITY WENT OUT ON THEIR OWN, THE COMMERCIAL AGREEMENT YOU WOULD GET IS THE SAME THING THEY HAND TO A MCDONALD'S OR WALMART DOESN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ANYTHING THAT'S FOR CITIES.

WE HAVE OUR OWN CONTRACT THAT WE GO OUT INTO THE MARKET BECAUSE WE'RE SO LARGE AND THEY WANT OUR BUSINESS, THEY AGREE TO WHAT WE'VE PUT IN THE CONTRACT TO HELP PROTECT CITIES.

IF YOU GET A LOT OF BROKERS CALLING YOU OR SAYING, HEY, I GOT THIS GREAT DEAL.

DON'T BE FOOD BY A FIXED PRICE.

THAT'S ESPECIALLY SINCE WINTER STORM MURI WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

NEXT SLIDE. I KNOW THIS IS HARD TO SEE, BUT THERE'S ONLY TWO GROUPS OF CHARGES.

THEY'RE EITHER CALLED ANCILLARY SERVICES OR CONGESTION.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT OUR COMPETITORS ARE EXEMPTING AS MUCH AS THEY CAN FROM THEIR FIXED RATE SO THAT THEY CAN TELL YOU THEY HAVE THIS REALLY LOW FIXED RATE.

BUT THE MORE THEY LINE ITEM, THE MORE THEY CAN UP THE COSTS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.

THEY CALL THINGS DIFFERENTLY.

IF YOU ASKED A BROKER, HOW MUCH IS YOUR CONGESTION COST? THEY COULD SAY, WE DON'T CHARGE THAT, THEY DO, BUT THEY CALL IT HUB TO LOAD ZONE. YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT.

OR CUT FIRM FUEL.

YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THESE HAVE ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT NAMES AS AS MEMBERS JOIN AND THEY'LL SHOW US WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SEEING THINGS CHANGING, NAMES CHANGING, MORE LINE ITEMS, BECAUSE THEIR GOAL, THE BROKERS GOAL IS TO GET THAT FIXED PRICE AS LOW AS POSSIBLE, SO YOU WON'T ASK THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS TO KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY NOT WHAT YOU'RE PAYING AT THE END OF THE DAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT.

>> THAT ONE, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON YOUR PERFORMANCE, HOW WELL DO YOU DO VERSUS THE MARKET OVER TIME, CAN YOU SHOW US HOW MUCH VARIATION YOU'VE HAD IN

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>> I WOULD SAY THAT SINCE WE'VE BEEN DOING SHP, WE ARE BELOW MARKET.

WE STARTED THAT IN 2023 WITH THIS NEW PURCHASING.

PRIOR TO THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR CONTRACT IN 2018, WE HAD SOME CITIES THAT LEFT.

THEY SAID WE CAN DO BETTER OFF EVERY CITY THAT LEFT, THEY GOT A HIGHER PRICE THAN IF THEY'D STAYED IN TCAP.

ACTUALLY, THE CITY I WAS TALKING TO TODAY, THEY WERE ONE OF THE CITIES THAT LEFT IN 2018, AND SHE TOLD ME SHE GOES, I KNEW WE WERE GETTING A MORE EXPENSIVE PRICE WHEN WE MOVED IN LEFT JAW.

SHE GOES, THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO COME BACK NOW BECAUSE THEIR CONTRACT IS UP.

WHEN WE SEE PEOPLE LEAVE TCAP, WE'VE NEVER SEEN THEM GET A LOWER PRICE.

WHEN WE KNOW WHAT THE PRICE IS.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S PRICE IS WHEN THEY LEAVE US.

BUT WHEN WE DO KNOW THE PRICE, WE'VE NEVER SEEN THEM GET A LOWER PRICE.

A LOT OF THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE LEFT US OVER THE YEARS HAVE STARTED COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY SEE THE VALUE IN OUR ORGANIZATION.

>> THESE OTHER FEES THAT ARE CHARGED THAT YOU SAY WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF BECAUSE THEY CAN RAISE THE OVERALL, THEY'LL RAISE THE EFFECTIVE RATE.

AND YOU SAID THAT IT MADE ME THINK OF RENTING A CAR AT AN AIRPORT BECAUSE THEY'LL QUOTE YOU ONE PRICE, AND THEN WHEN YOU GET THERE, THERE'S A CONCESSION FEE AND THERE'S A SALES TAX, AND THEN THERE'S A CITY SALES TAX, AND THERE'S ABOUT FIR DIFFERENT FEES THAT THEY ADD ON THERE WITH ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT NAMES.

HOTELS ARE ABOUT THE SAME WAY FOR THAT MATTER.

>> WHAT'S A RULE OF THUMB THAT THE TOTAL OF THOSE WILL RUN AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL BILL?

>> WHAT'S INTERESTING IS FROM A RESIDENTIAL SIDE, A LOT OF THAT IS LIKE A MUCH MORE LOCKED IN THAN THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.

I THINK EARLIER I SAID WE ARE TALKING TO THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM OUR COMPETITORS IS WHAT MY ENERGY CONSULTANT SAYS, "IT'S THE WILD WEST OF CONTRACTING." WE TALKED TO THE PUC LAST WEEK AND THE PUC AFTER WE GAVE THEM SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THINGS WE'VE SEEN ABOUT THINGS OUR MEMBERS HAVE RECEIVED, THEY LIKENED IT TO THE SOLAR PANEL INDUSTRY AND THAT THE LEGISLATURE DID PUT SOME RULES ON THE SOLAR PANEL, THE PEOPLE COMING DOOR TO DOOR AND KNOCKING ON THAT.

WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME OF THAT ON THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS SIDE FOR ELECTRICITY CONTRACTS BECAUSE IT'S CRAZY WHAT WE'RE SEEING THE BROKERS TELLING OUR MEMBERS, WHAT THEY'RE SENDING OUR MEMBERS.

SOME OF THEM ARE OUTRIGHT BREAKING SOME OF THE RULES.

THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S ONLY A HALF A PAGE OF RULES THAT BROKERS HAVE TO LIVE BY.

EVERYTHING'S FAIR GAME.

WHAT'S INTERESTING THOUGH WHEN YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION, I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT TO GET TO THIS.

THE PROBLEM WITH THESE OTHER RATES IS THEY'RE NOT AS BIG.

I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS.

I WOULD SAY MAYBE ANCILLARY CONGESTION, ALL THESE CHARGES FROM ERCOT PROBABLY LESS THAN 10% OF YOUR BILL, WHERE THE BIG THING IS COMING FROM THE ONCOR CHARGES.

ONCOR IS ACTUALLY ALL THE TDU.

AGAIN, THE MONOPOLY OR THE CO-OPS ARE VERY DIFFERENT, BUT I'M HEARING FROM SOME OF OUR MEMBERS THAT HAVE BOTH ONCOR AND THE CO-OPS, THAT THE CO-OP RATES ARE ABOUT WHAT THE TCAP RATES ARE AS WELL, THAT THE LINE CHARGES.

THE ONCOR CHARGES ARE MAKING UP ANYWHERE FROM 50-75% OF THE ENTIRE BILL.

WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OUR SMALLER CITIES, 75% OF THEIR BILL IS STRICTLY ONCOR.

ONCOR DID ASK FOR A RATE INCREASE, AND OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN AT THE PUC FIGHTING.

THERE HAS BEEN A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THAT MEANS YET.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ONCOR WAS DOING WAS TRYING TO RAISE STREET LIGHT CHARGES BY 51%.

I'M HOPING THAT SETTLEMENT WILL COME OUT SOON BECAUSE WE'VE GOT BUDGET ESTIMATES TO DO FOR YOU ALL.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, SINCE WINTER STORM MURI AT THE LEGISLATURE, THE PUC, TO BE HONEST, IT'S BEEN A BLANK CHECK.

ANYBODY THAT COMES TO THEM AND SAYS, "WE NEED MONEY TO MAKE SURE THE GRID DOESN'T FAIL, THEY AGREE TO IT." THAT'S WHY RATES HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

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WHEN ERCOT SPENDS MONEY, THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY, SO IT ALL GETS PUSHED BACK, AND SO IT ALL COMES ONTO US.

ERCOT HAS BEEN SPENDING MONEY LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW BECAUSE THEY'VE PROMISED THE GOVERNOR THAT THE GRID WON'T FAIL.

WE'VE BEEN PUSHING BACK SAYING, BUT YOU'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY THAN THAT'S ACTUALLY DOING ANYBODY ANY GOOD.

ALL IT'S DOING IS RAISING EVERYBODY'S RATES.

BUT ONCOR HASN'T BACKED OFF. I KNOW.

I NEED HAPPIER NEWS TO END ON.

[LAUGHTER] BUT WE'RE WATCHING ALL OF THIS FOR YOU ALL, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

>> MR. SHARPE.

>> EARLIER YOU MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT OUR COMPETITORS.

WHO DOES TCAP TERM AS A COMPETITOR?

>> WELL, OUR COMPETITORS, THE RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDERS.

TXU, RELIANT, GREEN MOUNTAIN, ANY OF THOSE THAT YOU HEAR.

BUT THERE'S A SLEW OF BROKERS THAT ARE JUST OUT THERE, HEDGING THE TREES QUITE A BIT.

THE ONES UP HERE THAT WE HEAR A LOT FROM ARE PPM, ENERGY BY 5, TRADITION ENERGY.

IT'S LIKE EVERY DAY THERE'S A NEW ONE COMING ON.

THERE'S VALIANT, THERE'S UNITED ENERGY PROVIDERS.

LAST TIME I LOOKED, THERE WAS OVER 1,600 BROKERS THAT WERE REGISTERED WITH THE PUC.

>> AREN'T THEY NORMALLY IN RETAIL? THEY'RE NOT REALLY SELLING TO MUNICIPALITIES.

>> NO, THEY WANT MUNICIPALITIES.

THE REASON THEY WANT MUNICIPALITIES IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE UP SHOP.

YOU'RE NOT LIKE A BUSINESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEND EVERYBODY HOME AND CLOSE OUR LOCATION DOWN.

THEY WANT MUNICIPALITIES BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE AND THEY KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY YOUR BILLS.

YOU'RE A GUARANTEE FOR THEM.

THEY'VE BEEN REALLY PRESSURING HARD TO GET MUNICIPALITIES.

AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PUC TO GO, LOOK, THIS BAD BEHAVIOR SOMEBODY'S GOT TO CALL THEM OUT ON IT.

>> WELL, THANK YOU. WAS JUST A POINT THAT WE LEFT ANGLING THERE.

I COULDN'T HELP BUT ASK ABOUT IT. THANK YOU.

>> THERE WAS A LOT HERE.

>> YOU SERVE AS ONLY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES? IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> JUST BACK TO THE QUESTION I ASKED EARLIER ABOUT YOUR PERFORMANCE.

MAYBE NOT TONIGHT, MAYBE NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT CAN YOU GIVE US SOME HISTORICAL DATA ON HOW YOU PERFORM RELATIVE TO THE AVERAGE? I LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU HAVE THE EXPERTISE THAT WE DON'T HAVE. IT'S YOUR FOCUS.

IT'S NOT AND THERE WILL BE OUR FOCUS OR ANY OF OUR STAFF FOCUS TO STAY ON TOP OF THESE ISSUES, ESPECIALLY FOR CITY OF THIS SIZE.

I LIKE THAT CONCEPT.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT A GOOD TRACK RECORD THAT YOU CAN SHOW US.

>> YES. I WILL GET WITH MY ENERGY CONSULTANT.

WE WILL PULL THAT DATA TOGETHER.

IN THE EARLY DAYS, 2001, 2002, THERE WAS THE PRICE TO BEAT, BUT CONTRACTS HAD TO BE AT THE PRICE TO BEAT, WHICH WAS SET BY ERCOT OR LOWER.

WE WERE ALWAYS LOWER THAN THE PRICE TO BEAT.

ALTHOUGH ERCOT GOT RID OF THAT.

IT WAS AN ERCOT RATE THAT SAID, "OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK THE BEST PRICE IN THE MARKET IS." THEY GOT RID OF THAT PROBABLY 2010, 2011.

IT STARTS GETTING A LITTLE HARDER TO LOOK AT.

BUT I'LL GET WITH HIM.

HE KEEPS UP WITH ALL THE NUMBERS AND WHAT OUR CONTRACTS DO, AND I WILL GET YOU SOMETHING.

>> COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW THE AMOUNT OF ATTENTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM PAID TO COST, WHICH IS CERTAINLY A MAJOR FACTOR FOR ANYBODY.

ARE THERE OTHER RATED METRICS THAT ARE OF CENTRAL CONCERN TO YOUR OTHER MEMBER CITIES? JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, OBVIOUSLY, 2021, PEOPLE MIGHT BE WORRIED ABOUT WHERE THEIR GENERATION MIGHT BE COMING FROM, PERHAPS THE DISTANCE AND HOW MUCH COST COMPETING FOR THE SAME LOAD.

WHAT OTHER FACTORS ARE MEMBER CITIES TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

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I THINK THAT A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH US DOING THE WORK FOR THEM.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND, I ACTUALLY WORKED FOR CITIES HERE IN THE METROPLEX AS AN ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER BEFORE I MOVED OVER TO TCAP.

I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND HOW CITIES ARE.

I HAD TO DO ALL THE ELECTRICITY, READ THE SPREADSHEETS, DO THE BUDGETS WHEN I WORKED FOR MY CITIES.

I'VE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES.

FOR A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS, I THINK IT'S JUST THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE MADE UP OF CITY PEOPLE DOING THE BEST PUBLIC SERVANT MINDSET THAT A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS ARE, "WE'RE GOOD, AS LONG AS YOU KEEP DOING THAT." THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A BOARD OF PUBLIC SERVANTS THAT ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, AND OUR CONSULTANTS ONLY WORK FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

NONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS WORK FOR ANY OF OUR COMPETITORS OR ANY OF THE RETAIL MARKET.

>> BUT I GUESS, TO TAKE YOU DIRECTLY, WITH REGARDS TO WHERE I WANTED THAT TO GO, YOU'RE NOT BROKERING BASED ON SAY RELIABILITY METRICS OR SERVICE LEVEL OBJECTIVES OR ANYTHING OF THAT ORDER.

>> WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THOSE THINGS.

LIKE I SAID, WE GET YOUR CONTRACT FOR YOU.

WE MAKE SURE THAT JEX IS DOING THEIR JOB IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.

IF THEY WEREN'T DOING THEIR JOB ACTUALLY IN 2016, WE HAD A DIFFERENT RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDER THAT WAS DOING THE BILLING.

THE BOARD DID NOT FEEL THAT THEY WERE DOING A GOOD ENOUGH JOB, SO THEY GOT RID OF THEM.

THAT'S WHEN WE GOT GEXA.

WE WENT OUT FOR AN RFP FOR THE RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDERS FOR BILLING SERVICES.

THAT'S HOW WE GOT IT. AGAIN, WE ARE AT THE LEGISLATURE AT THE PUC, MAKING SURE THAT THE TDU COMPANIES ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

WE'VE PUT PRESSURE ON ONCOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF SOME BAD SERVICE UP HERE IN THE METROPLEX.

ONCOR HAD, LOCK BOXED OUT AT REC CENTER BECAUSE THEY MESSED UP THE ESI ID NUMBER AND WENT TO THE WRONG ADDRESS.

THEY TOOK A TRAFFIC LIGHT OUT OF AN INTERSECTION THAT SEE 65,000 PEOPLE AT RUSH HOUR, TOOK THE METER BOX OUT, SO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL DIDN'T WORK.

WE GATHERED OUR MEMBERSHIP UP AND REALLY PUT SOME PRESSURE ON ONCOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ISSUES DIDN'T HAPPEN, THAT THEY NEEDED TO LOOK AT HOW THEY WERE TREATING CITY ACCOUNTS BETTER.

WE'RE DOING THAT THING.

I KNOW I'M NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION AS MUCH.

>> I THINK YOU HAVE, AND I APPRECIATE IT.

I TAKE IT TO MEAN THAT IT'S NOT EFFECTIVELY THE PRIMARY POSITION OF YOUR CHARTER.

IT'S THINGS THAT YOU ADDRESS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

BUT THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME EXPLORE THAT.

>> AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO PARKER, WE HAVE MEMBERS, LIKE I SAID, WHEN GRAND PRAIRIE REC CENTER GOT LOCK BOXED OUT BECAUSE ONCOR PUT THE WRONG ESI ID NUMBER IN AND THE GUY JUST WENT, "LET'S JUST LOCKBOX THEM OUT RIGHT AFTER SCHOOL WHERE THE KIDS COULDN'T COME IN." THEY'RE CALLING ME TO GOING FIX THIS.

IT WAS ISSUES LIKE THAT AND WE STARTED SEEING A PATTERN THAT WE GOT OUR LEGAL COUNSEL INVOLVED.

WE GOT THE HIGHER UPS OF ONCOR AND WE SAT DOWN AND SAID, "LOOK, YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE SOME THINGS." WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS IN PLACE THAT WAY.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME THINGS BECAUSE WE KNOW ONCOR.

IF YOU ASK FOR A NEW ACCOUNT, WHAT HAPPENS AS YOU TELL US, IT GOES INTO THE ERCOT SYSTEM, ONCOR PULLS IT DOWN, THEN ONCOR DOES WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO, SUPPOSEDLY, THEN THEY PUT IT BACK IN THE SYSTEM AND GO, "WE'RE DONE." THE PROBLEM IS A LOT OF TIMES ONCOR WASN'T DOING THAT PART.

WE'VE PUT SOME THINGS IN PLACE WITH GEXA NOW SO THAT NOW GEXA IS MAKING SURE THAT IT'S NOT JUST THROW IT INTO THE SYSTEM AND FORGET.

THEY'RE NOW DOING WEEKLY REPORTS TO MAKE SURE ONCOR IS STAYING ON TOP OF THINGS BECAUSE ONCOR WASN'T AND IT WAS CAUSING A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH OUR CITIES TRYING TO ADD NEW ACCOUNTS.

WE'VE PUT THAT IN PLACE WITH GEXA TO MAKE SURE TO HELP OUR CITIES AS WELL.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> MAYBE ONE MORE FOR YOU AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE FOR EITHER THE MAYOR OR KENT OR GRANT.

THE ONE FOR YOU IS, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ULTIMATELY, SOMEBODY LIKE ONCOR, THE SERVICE PROVIDER IS GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE WE GET IN TERMS OF DELIVERY.

WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ONCOR OUT HERE.

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IT'S HARD TO GET THEM TO BE RESPONSIVE WHEN WE LOSE POWER, I'VE LOST IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE.

I DON'T WANT TO OVERSELL WHAT YOU DO OR OVERSTATE WHAT YOU CAN DO, BUT I GUESS, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT BECAUSE OF THE BULK IN WHICH YOU BUY, YOU CAN GET THEIR ATTENTION BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE OUT THERE OR THE AVERAGE CITY, SO TO SPEAK?

>> YES.

>> THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR EITHER THE MAYOR OR KENT OR GRANT IS, WHAT ARE WE ON NOW? WHAT SERVICE PROVIDER? WHAT CONTRACT? DO WE HAVE A FIRM CONTRACT? WHEN DOES IT END? [BACKGROUND]

>> YOUR CURRENT CONTRACT ENDS WITH TCAP, 123127, BUT IT'S EXTENDED THROUGH 32.

>> OUR CONTRACT IS WITH MARGARET.

>> THEN TO NOTE, WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL ACCOUNTS THAT ARE SERVICED THROUGH GRAYSON COUNTY AND A FEW WITH FARMERS, APPARENTLY.

>> PATCHWORK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, I WILL CLOSE THE WORKSHOP.

IT IS 6:45. THANK YOU, MARGARET.

[ADJOURN ]

>> MAYOR, YOU CAN CALL ME ANYTIME WITH ANYTHING AND WE WILL GET ON IT FOR YOU ALL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MARGARET.

>> WE WILL TAKE RECESS UNTIL COUNCIL MEETING AT 7:00 PM.

I HEREBY CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF PARKER, TEXAS TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER ]

IT IS 7:00 PM.

I WILL ASK MISS HALL, DO I HAVE A QUORUM?

>> YES, MADAM MAYOR, YOU HAVE A SUPER QUORUM.

>> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK CHIEF MILLER, IF YOU WILL LEAD US IN THE AMERICAN PLEDGE AND CHIEF KENT IF YOU WILL LEAD US IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE.

>> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME,

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

THE FIRST ONE IS FROM HENRY SHELL.

SHELL, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOUR COMMENTS.

>> HENRY SHELL 6704 STAFFORD AND PARKER.

[INAUDIBLE] I HAD TODAY IS CONDITION OF LOUIS LANE ROAD, AND I HOPE AT ONE POINT IT'S GOING TO GET FIXED WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS [LAUGHTER].

IF YOU CONSIDER THIS, AUTHORIZE IT AND COMMENCE IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, THAT'S ONLY MY COMMENT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. PHILLIP QUAN.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PHILLIP QUAN.

I RESIDE AT 6602 STAFFORD DRIVE, AND ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS AGAIN IS LOUIS LANE.

BASICALLY, I DRIVE SOME VERY LOW SPORTS CARS AS ABOUT 3.5" OFF THE GROUND.

I CANNOT DRIVE NORTHBOUND OVER THOSE POTHOLES, AND ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, CARS THAT COME UP NORTH AND I'M TRAVELING SOUTH GOING HOME, THEY WILL CROSS OVER INTO MY LANE, EVEN THOUGH I'M TRAVELING ON MY LANE AND IT'S FORCED ME OFF INTO THE GRASS AT LEAST ON ONE OCCASION.

IT'S BECOMING A PRETTY DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR ME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A THIRD CARD FROM ROBERT DANZY.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT LOUIS LANE.

THIS IS THE OTHER GUYS.

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EITHER WAY I GO, IT'S BAD.

I USED TO BE HEADING TOWARDS LUCAS ROAD THAT WAS OKAY, BUT NOW IT'S ACTUALLY GETTING TERRIBLE.

I DON'T EVEN DRIVE THAT WAY ANYMORE, SO I'M HAPPY TO OPEN UP THE OTHER WAY TO GET TO LOUIS LANE, BUT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE FIXED, AND IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE, PLEASE DO IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE ON PUBLIC COMMENT? NOW AT THIS TIME,

[PRESENTATION(S) ]

I'M GOING TO COME BACK.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, EVERYONE THAT'S GATHERED.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

TODAY, WE GATHER TO RECOGNIZE NOT JUST AN ORGANIZATION, BUT A LEGACY OF SERVICE, COMMITMENT, AND COMMUNITY PRIDE, THE PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1983 WITH ONE SIMPLE, POWERFUL, VOLUNTEERS WILLING TO STEP FORWARD AND PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORS WHEN THEY WERE NEEDED.

THESE MEN AND WOMEN GAVE THEIR TIME, THEIR ENERGY, AND OFTEN PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY NOT FOR RECOGNITION, BUT OUT OF DEDICATION TO THIS COMMUNITY.

FOR DECADES, THE VOLUNTEER SPIRIT BUILT THE DEPARTMENT WE KNOW TODAY.

AS PARKER GREW, SO DID THE DEMANDS PLACED ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IN 2016, THE DEPARTMENT TOOK AN IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD BY TRANSITIONING TO A PART-TIME COMBINATION DEPARTMENT.

THIS CHANGE ALLOWED US TO BETTER MEET THE NEEDS OF A GROWING COMMUNITY WHILE STILL HONORING THE VOLUNTEER ROOTS THAT SHAPED OUR CULTURE.

IT MARKED A NEW CHAPTER, ONE FOCUSED ON READINESS, RELIABILITY, AND CONTINUED SERVICE.

WE MOVE FORWARD TO 2025, LAST YEAR, WE REACHED ANOTHER HISTORIC MILESTONE.

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE DEPARTMENT'S HISTORY, PARKER FIRE HAS HIRED THREE FULL-TIME MEMBERS.

THIS MOMENT REPRESENTS MORE THAN STAFFING.

IT REPRESENTS PROGRESS.

IT REFLECTS THE TRUST THIS COMMUNITY PLACES IN ITS FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMITMENT TO ENSURING FASTER RESPONSE TIMES, ENHANCING TRAINING, AND EVEN HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

WHILE TODAY WE CELEBRATE GROWTH, WE DO NOT FORGET WHERE WE CAME FROM.

THE VALUES INSTILLED BY OUR VOLUNTEERS, SELFLESSNESS, TEAMWORK, AND DEDICATION, REMAIN AT THE HEART OF THE PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THOSE VALUES GUIDE OUR PART-TIME VOLUNTEER AND NOW FULL-TIME MEMBERS ALIKE.

FROM 1983 TO TODAY, THE MISSION HAS NEVER CHANGED TO PROTECT LIVES, PROPERTY, AND SERVE THIS COMMUNITY WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND PRIDE.

THE UNIFORMS MAY EVOLVE, THE STAFFING MODELS MAY CHANGE, BUT THE COMMITMENT TO PARKER REMAINS UNWAVERING.

THANK YOU TO THE VOLUNTEERS WHO LAID THE FOUNDATION, TO THE LEADERS WHO GUIDED US THROUGH CHANGE, TO OUR COMMUNITY, FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT, AND TO THE MEMBERS PAST AND PRESENT, WHO PROUDLY WEAR THE PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT BADGE.

THE FUTURE OF PARKER FIRE IS STRONG, AND THE BEST CHAPTERS ARE STILL BEING WRITTEN.

TODAY, WE GET TO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE.

THANKS TO THE MAYOR OF DOING THE OATH OF OFFICE FOR OUR THREE FULL-TIME MEMBERS.

THOMAS JOHNSON, WOULD YOU COME UP TO BE OUR FIRST ONE AND WHOEVER IS GOING TO PIN YOU? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, THOMAS. REPEAT AFTER ME.

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RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. REPEAT AFTER ME.

>> THERE WE GO.

>> RODY, COME ON UP.

ROD, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND REPEAT AFTER ME.

>> THESE THREE MEMBERS ARE, AS WE SAID, OUR FIRST FULL-TIME MEMBERS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

WHEN CHIEF KENDRICK AND I BECAME CHIEFS HERE, THIS WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WANTED WAS TO PROGRESS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT INTO SOMETHING BETTER THAN PART-TIME, AND HERE WE ARE TODAY.

WE JUST HIRED THREE FULL-TIMES IN OCTOBER.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS, BRINGING MORE MEMBERS ON.

WE'RE ALL REPRESENTED TOO BY THESE ARE PART-TIME MEMBERS AS WELL FROM OTHER AREAS OF COLLIN COUNTY THAT WHERE THEY WORK.

GIVE THEM A HAND AS WELL FOR THEY'RE ALL PART-TIME.

[APPLAUSE] THEY'RE COMING IN FROM THEIR FULL-TIME JOBS, AND THEY'RE WORKING 48 HOURS ON, 96 HOURS OFF, AND THEN STILL COMING HERE TO HELP US OUT.

WITHOUT THEM, THIS DOESN'T TAKE PLACE.

THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE].

>> THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE

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THAT IS AWESOME.

WE ARE SO PROUD OF ALL OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

Y'ALL DO AN AWESOME JOB.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL GO TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

[ ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

AS ITS NORMAL COURT DATE OF MARCH 3RD IS ELECTION DAY, AND WE CANNOT HAVE COURT IN HERE WITH THE ELECTION GOING ON, SO WE MOVED IT.

PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, WE'LL MEET ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 11 AND THIS ROOM AT 5:00 PM.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED AT FEBRUARY 12, 2026 AT 4:00 PM.

THE FILING DEADLINE FOR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL PERSONS.

THERE'S TWO OPENINGS OR TWO POSITIONS AVAILABLE FOR ELECTION.

THE DEADLINE TO FILE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IS FEBRUARY 13 AT 5:00 PM.

PATTY HALL HAS THE PAPERWORK.

SHE IS OUR ELECTION JUDGE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE SEE MISS HALL ON THAT.

THE MARCH 3RD, 2026, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS HEREBY CANCELED AND RESCHEDULED TO WEDNESDAY, MARCH 4TH.

THE REASON THAT THIS IS HAPPENING IS BECAUSE WE CANNOT MEET AT A TIME WHEN THEY'RE HAVING AN ELECTION IN THIS ROOM, AND SO THEY THEY GET IT.

THE ELECTION FOR THE STATE OFFICES IS ON MARCH 3RD, THE EARLY VOTING STARTS ON FEBRUARY 17TH FOR THAT.

MISS BOGDAN, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT THE SANTAS?

>> YES. THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, WE HAD A TOY DRIVE WITH LONE STAR SANTAS FOR THE CITY OF PARKER.

I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE PARKER RESIDENTS THAT PARTICIPATED AND STAFF THAT CONTRIBUTED.

WE COLLECTED A CAR FULL OF TOYS, AND THAT WILL NOW BE DISTRIBUTED TO LONE STAR SANTAS WHO GOES OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IN TEXAS AND DURING DISASTERS AND FOR DISASTER RELIEF WITH CHILDREN, THEY TAKE THESE TOYS AND DISTRIBUTE THEM ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

IT'S NOT JUST AT CHRISTMAS TIME.

THEY SENT A REALLY NICE THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY OF PARKER AND A NICE LITTLE CERTIFICATE THAT WE'LL POST OUT THERE.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING.

>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE RESULTS WITH US. THAT'S AWESOME.

OUR CITY ALWAYS IS ONE WHICH GIVES AND THAT IS JUST FANTASTIC.

NOW, MOVING TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THERE'S TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR DECEMBER 16, 2025, AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR JANUARY 6TH, 2026.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK COUNSEL.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS EITHER OF THOSE ITEMS PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MISS BAKER.

>> YES. I'D LIKE A CORRECTION MADE.

I DON'T KNOW IF DO YOU WANT TO PULL IN TO DISCUSS OR JUST MAKE THE CORRECTION, OR HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT?

>> HOW MAJOR OF A CORRECTION IS IT?

>> IT STATES IN ITEM 10 FOR THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUESTED A WORKSHOP ON COMMUNICATION.

I'D LIKE TO CORRECT THAT TO SAY POLICY AND PROCEDURE AND PROCESS OF HOW THE POLICE PAY SCALE CAME DOWN.

THAT'S HOW I WORDED MY REQUEST WHEN I SAID IT DURING THE MEETING.

I JUST LIKE THAT CORRECTED.

>> IN THAT INSTANCE,

[CONSENT AGENDA]

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IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROXANNE BOGDAN AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHARPE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED WITH THE AMENDMENT TO THE DECEMBER 16TH, 2025 MINUTES.

>> THE JANUARY 6TH MINUTES.

>> EXCUSE ME, JANUARY 6TH MINUTES.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOT HEARING ANY I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANYONE OPPOSED.

THE CONSENT AGENDA PASSES.

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 9.

[9. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2026-882 APPROVING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF PARKER AND THE CITY OF LUCAS PROVIDING FOR ANNEXATION AND MAINTENANCE OF PORTIONS OF LEWIS LANE AND PROVIDING FOR THE DISANNEXATION AND MAINTENANCE OF PORTIONS OF LUCAS ROAD. ]

ITEM NUMBER 9 IS CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-882, APPROVING, I'LL NEVER SAY THIS WORD RIGHT, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF PARKER AND THE CITY OF LUCAS, PROVIDING FOR ANNEXATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE PORTION OF LOUIS LANE AND PROVIDING FOR THE DISANNEXATION AND MAINTENANCES, I'M SO EXCITED OVER THIS ONE, OF PORTIONS OF LUCAS ROAD.

I SEE JOHN WHITSELL SITTING BACK THERE AND DUSTY.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> WELL, YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK TO THIS?

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> WELL, LET'S SEE.

AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO SPEAK ON LOUIS LANE.

I JUST ALSO WANT TO THANK JOHN WHITSELL FOR SHOWING UP, COMING OUT AND KEEPING THE PROGRESS ON THIS.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND.

I THINK EVERYBODY IS FULLY AWARE THAT LOUIS LANE NEEDS AN OVERHAUL AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE DISAGREEMENT ON THAT FACT.

WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH BEHIND THE SCENES FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO AREN'T FULLY AWARE IS LOUIS LANE HAS BEEN FRAUGHT WITH A CRISS-CROSSING OF JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY ISSUES.

IT GOES FROM THE CITY OF PARKER TO THE CITY OF LUCAS, AND THERE'S A LITTLE [INAUDIBLE] IN THERE THAT ONCE BELONGED TO THE COLLIN COUNTY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, AS HEADED UP BY OUR COUNCIL MEMBER SHARPE, MYSELF IN THE DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY MANAGER AND LUCAS AND THEIR MAYOR, DUSTY KUYKENDALL.

WE'VE COME TO THIS SOLUTION AFTER A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH.

THIS ONE IS PRETTY SIMPLE. IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD.

IT RESOLVES A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE FACING.

ESSENTIALLY, PARKER IS GOING TO TAKE FULL CONTROL OVER LOUIS LANE THROUGH A SERIES OF ANNEXATIONS AND DISANNEXATIONS, AND LUCAS WILL DO THE SAME FOR WEST LUCAS ROAD THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS.

THIS IS GOING TO CLEAN UP OUR JURISDICTIONAL ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HAD.

IT'S GOING TO ALLOW FULL AUTHORITY, ALLOW US TO HAVE ESSENTIALLY PLAY IN OUR OWN SANDBOXES AS HOW IT'S BEEN PUT GOING FORWARD.

HERE'S SOME PICTURES.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS ANY SURPRISE TO ANYONE IN THIS ROOM WHO SHOWED UP WHO CARES ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

THIS IS FROM A DAY WHERE WE PATCHING SOME OF THE POTHOLES, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S JUST SECTIONS THERE THAT ARE JUST IN DIRE NEED OF REPAIR.

SOME OF THE KEY BENEFITS OF THIS APPROACH IS IT ALLOWS US TO MOBILIZE ON THIS PROJECT WITH ANDERSON ASPHALT VERY QUICKLY AS EARLY AS MARCH 2026, IF THIS IS APPROVED.

OF COURSE, WE WILL HAVE TO BRING FORTH THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION.

THAT CAN BE DONE AS EARLY AS THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE GETTING BOGGED DOWN IN IS THIS IDEA OF POTENTIAL MONETARY EXCHANGES BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT CITIES.

THIS ELIMINATES THE DISPUTES THAT WE WERE HAVING THERE.

IT SIMPLIFIES OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, FUTURE WARRANTY OBLIGATIONS.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IF WE DO GO WITH A SINGLE CONTRACTOR FOR THE OVERALL, WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE IF THERE'S A DEFECT IN THAT? THIS STREAMLINES THAT.

IT ALSO AVOIDS THE ESCALATING CONSTRUCTION COSTS WITH FURTHER DELAYS.

OVERALL, THIS IS GOING TO SAVE US APPROXIMATELY $85,000 FROM

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BECAUSE THEY CAN QUICKLY MOBILIZE TO ANOTHER PROJECT, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THIS AT A DISCOUNT, THEIR TONNAGE FOR THEIR SQUARE YARDS.

WHAT WE DID ON CALCULATIONS, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LINEAR FOOT ON LUCAS AND THE LINEAR FOOT ON LEWIS THAT WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR, THE LIABILITY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO ROADS REALLY EQUATED TO ABOUT LESS THAN 5%, SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO JUSTIFY NO EXCHANGE IN FINANCING BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT CITIES.

IT ALSO ELIMINATES THE HIDDEN ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FROM JOINT MANAGEMENT.

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ON THAT EARLIER.

THIS ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR OPPORTUNITY COST ASSOCIATED WITH SPENDING ADDITIONAL STAFF, ADDITIONAL LEGAL TIME NEGOTIATING ON POINTS THAT HAVE A LARGE DISPARITY BETWEEN THE TWO MUNICIPALITIES.

A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS TO JUST HIT ON HERE, THE CITY OF PARKER, WE HAVE A GREATER INTEREST IN LOUIS LANE, AND THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE FOR LUCAS ROAD.

AT LEAST 75% IS WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ON LOUIS LANE IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE CITY OF PARKER, AT LEAST AS OF TODAY.

THEN JUST SOME BOTTOM LINES FOR YOU HERE, THE TIMELINE, IF THIS MOU WERE TO BE APPROVED, THIS DOES PAVE THE PATH FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN QUICKLY.

SPRING 2026, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, HOUSEKEEPING WISE.

SAME FOR ANDERSON CONSTRUCTION PAVING.

BUT THEY THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE TIMELINE.

AFTER THIS WOULD BE APPROVED, IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, OUR CITY ATTORNEYS WOULD BOTH BE WORKING TOGETHER TO WORK THROUGH THE ANNEXATIONS AND DISANNEXATIONS.

AS I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE, I DON'T THINK ALL THE INK ON THE PAPER OF THOSE HAS TO BE DRY BEFORE WE CAN START PUTTING THE PIECES TOGETHER FOR CONSTRUCTION, BUT I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU.

BOTTOM LINE, THIS IS A PRACTICAL SOLUTION.

IT GETS US BOTH OUT OF LONGSTANDING NEGOTIATING STALEMATE.

IT ESTABLISHES CLEAR AUTHORITY FOR BOTH OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS GOING FORWARD.

THEY'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE LINES ARE DRAWN.

DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, THAT'S LUCAS, THIS IS PARKER, ET CETERA.

IT MOVES THESE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT BOTH CITIES ARE WORKING ON FORWARD AFTER YEARS OF DELAYS.

I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE POINT TO THIS THAT I THINK MANY OF THE CITIZENS ARE NOT AWARE OF.

OUR CURRENT OWNERSHIP OF LUCAS ROAD IS GOING TO BE EXPANDED AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, SO BY US SWITCHING, WE ARE GETTING OUT OF THAT LIABILITY.

THAT'S WHY KENT WAS SAYING THE COST DIFFERENCE IS WITHIN 5% OF EACH OTHER. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

>> I BELIEVE THAT MR. WHITSELL MAY BE THE BEST PERSON TO ASK THIS.

I BELIEVE THAT LUCAS ROAD IS GOING TO BE WIDENED.

THERE ARE PARTS RIGHT NOW WHERE WE OWN TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND WE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IF WE DID NOT TURN THAT OVER TO LUCAS AND WHICH IS, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE MONETARY EXCHANGE.

>> I'LL ADD ONE KENT MADE ALLUSION TO THIS, BUT CLEAR AUTHORITY OVER ONE COMPLETE CORRIDOR EFFECTIVELY SAYS THAT IN THE FUTURE, WE AVOID THIS BIZARRE JURISDICTIONAL PROBLEM THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BOTH IN TERMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF ROAD MAINTENANCE, SO THIS AGREEMENT IS GOOD IN THE SENSE THAT IT GETS THE ROAD FIXED NOW, BUT IT'S ALSO GREAT IN THE SENSE THAT WERE ABLE TO REPAIR IT IN THE FUTURE AND KEEP IT LIKE IT'S A REAL ROAD THAT REAL RESIDENTS ACTUALLY ACCESS, SO I COULDN'T BE MORE HAPPY FOR THE PARTNERSHIP THAT HAS BEEN GRANTED US BY THE CITY OF LUCAS, JOHN WHITSELL AND DUSTY.

>> KUYKENDALL.

>> KUYKENDALL. HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUS IN TRYING TO HELP US MEET IN THE MIDDLE FOR A SOLUTION THAT I THINK WORKS EFFECTIVELY FOR BOTH CITIES, SO I CAN'T SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH OF BOTH OF THEM.

OF COURSE, CITY OF LUCAS CITY COUNCIL.

>> SURE.

>> JOHN WHITSELL, CITY MANAGER, CITY OF LUCAS.

AGAIN, JUST APPRECIATE MAYOR KUYKENDALL COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE IS VERY PLEASED WITH THIS PROGRESS AS IS OUR COUNCIL.

THEY PASSED THE MOU AGREEMENT AT OUR LAST MEETING.

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WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND MAYOR KUYKENDALL AND THE REST OF YOUR CITY COUNCIL FOR LISTENING TO US.

THERE'S BAD BLOOD IN THE PAST.

I'M GLAD WE WERE ALL ABLE TO DROP IT AND MOVE FORWARD.

HOPEFULLY, THIS IS THE START OF GOOD RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES GOING FORWARD.

>> I HOPE SO. I ABSOLUTELY DO.

I THINK AS LONG AS YOU CAN HANG ON TO KENT HERE, [LAUGHTER] WE CAN WORK THROUGH JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

>> I JUST HAVE TO ARGUE WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT THAT.

WE WILL WORK IT OUT [INAUDIBLE]

>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND TO REPAIR, NOT JUST THE ROAD, BUT THE RELATIONSHIP AS WELL.

BUT I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT DARRYL.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME AND WORK ON THIS AND KENT AND GARY AS WELL.

I'M VERY EXCITED.

THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS WE'VE HAD WHERE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM IS EXCITED TO BE HERE BECAUSE GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING. THANK YOU.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> JUST A POINT OF INFORMATION FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T READ THROUGH THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

THIS ALSO CONTAINS WHAT I THINK IS A VERY IMPORTANT CLAUSE IN HERE THAT GIVES EACH CITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW PLANS THAT WOULD INVOLVE THE DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE ROAD BECAUSE SOME OF THE AREA, SOME OF THE LAND ADJACENT TO THE ROAD EVEN THOUGH PARKER IS TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE ENTIRE ROAD, SAME THING FOR LUCAS.

LUCAS IS TAKING CHARGE OF ALL OF LUCAS ROAD.

SOME OF THE LAND ADJACENT TO EACH OF THOSE PIECES OF PROPERTY WOULD BELONG TO THE OTHER CITY.

THERE'S A CLAUSE IN HERE THAT ALLOWS IF IT'S A LUCAS DEVELOPMENT, PARKER WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT IF IT IMPACTS LOUIS LANE, AND IF IT'S A LUCAS DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD IMPACT PARKER, PARKER COULD DEVELOP.

THEY COULD EACH OVERSEE EACH OTHER'S PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT AND APPROVE IT FOR BOTH DRAINAGE PURPOSES, CONNECTIVITY, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THERE WAS ONE CLAUSE IN HERE, IT'S CLAUSE F TERMINATION OF THE AGREEMENT.

WHEN I FIRST READ IT, IT SAID TERMINATION, THE AGREEMENT MAY BE TERMINATED.

I WAS THINKING, WHY WOULD WE EVER WANT TO TERMINATE THIS? I WOULDN'T WANT TO.

I HAD OVERLOOKED THE FACT THAT IT SAID MUTUAL WRITTEN CONSENT.

I WOULDN'T WANT IT TO BE WHERE ONE PARTY COULD TERMINATE IT, AND THEREFORE ANY AUTHORITY TO HAVE INPUT INTO DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

BUT I'M WONDERING WHEN ANY OF US WOULD EVER WANT TO TERMINATE THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD PROPOSAL.

I WAS JUST WONDERING, KATHERINE, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR THING THAT DROVE THE TERMINATION CLAUSE IN THIS?

>> I THINK THAT THEY WOULD JUST ORDINARILY INCLUDE THOSE.

>> MS. BOGDAN.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ONE OF THEM IS ABOUT THE DRAINAGE.

I KNOW THAT THIS WAS A HARD WORKED ON AGREEMENT, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HELP THAT PUT INTO THIS AS WELL.

BUT WE HAVE THIS DRAINAGE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES.

DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA ON NUMBERS OR ANYTHING OF HOW OR WHAT THAT'S GOING TO GO ABOUT?

>> I DON'T HAVE THE IDEA OF NUMBERS, BUT WE CAN WORK ABOUT THIS AND WE WORK WITH GARY [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'M WORRIED THAT IF WE REDO THIS ROAD AND WE HAVE REALLY BAD DRAINAGE PROBLEMS THAT IT COULD WASH OUT THE ROAD OR DAMAGE THE ROAD.

IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT AT THIS TIME.

>> WE ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT AT THE MOMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DRAINAGE ALSO ADDRESS [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE PUT THAT ON ASAP, SO NOT TO LOSE ANY PORTIONS OF THE ROAD THAT WE REPAIR.

THE OTHER THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL BIG PARTS OF LAND THAT NEED TO BE DEVELOPED, AND WE'RE TALKING BIG TRUCKS AND POSSIBLE DAMAGE TO THE ROAD.

WE COULD DO AND LOOK QUICKLY AT SOME TYPE OF WEIGHT LIMITS FOR THE TRUCKS PERHAPS OR SOME WAY TO NOT LOSE WHAT THE WORK WE'RE JUST ABOUT TO PUT IN.

>> WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST AND I IMAGINE WE CAN DO IT AGAIN IS WE'VE MADE THE DEVELOPER RESPONSIBLE TO REPAIR THE ROAD BACK TO THE WONDERFUL CONDITION WE HOPE THAT IT WILL BRING GOING FORWARD. MR. [INAUDIBLE]

>> WHAT RATE LIMIT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING BUILDING THE ROAD TO?

>> WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER, BUT WE'VE GOT A NUMBER FOR THAT WOULD COVER SOME OF THE LARGE TRUCKS [INAUDIBLE]

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>> BUT YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO DO 80,000 POUND 18 WHEELER, THOUGH, ARE YOU?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? IF NOT, I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SHELL, YOU DO THIS.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CITY OF LUCAS TO PROVIDE FOR THE DISANNEXATION, ANNEXATION, AND MAINTENANCE OF PORTIONS OF LOUIS LANE AND LUCAS ROAD.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHARPE AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUBERT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-882, APPROVING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF PARKER AND THE CITY OF LUCAS, PROVIDING FOR ANNEXATION AND MAINTENANCE OF PORTIONS OF LOUIS LANE AND PROVIDING FOR AND PORTIONS OF LUCAS ROAD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AT ALL? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-882, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANYONE OPPOSED? THIS IS A BLESSING. THANK YOU.

EVERYBODY HAS WORKED FOR YEARS ON THIS [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

WE WILL GET STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ON LOUIS LANE BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO BE BEAUTIFUL AND WONDERFUL FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OTHER PEOPLE TO ENJOY DRIVING ON RATHER THAN PLAYING.

WHAT WAS IT SUSAN MODRO CALLED IT? SOMETHING. I DON'T REMEMBER IF SHE HAD A NAME FOR IT GOING AROUND THE POTHOLES.

THIS IS AWESOME.

THANK EVERYBODY.

I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

>> I WANT TO SAY THE RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU FOR SEEING ON TOP OF THIS AND HOLDING COUNSEL ACCOUNTABLE.

LIKE YOU ARE WHO WE REPRESENT, AND SO WE CAN'T DO ANY OF THIS YOUR INPUT. THANK YOU ALSO.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WITZ.

WE WILL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 6,

[6. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THE ANNUAL AUDIT REPORT. ]

WE HAVE AUDITORS HERE.

COUNCIL, YOU SHOULD HAVE FOUND SOME ITEMS AT YOUR PLACE THAT SHE BROUGHT WITH HER.

>> YES. AS THE MAYOR SAID, I'M SUSAN L FOLLETT.

IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU HAVE A BOUND FINANCIAL STATEMENT REPORT AND A LETTER THAT WE ISSUED TO COUNSEL AS WELL AS I THINK THERE'S A COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION IN THERE.

THERE'S A LOT IN THIS REPORT.

WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE IN JANUARY, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RUSH AND GET IT DONE IN MARCH.

WE'RE GLAD WE'RE HERE.

THANKS TO GRANT.

HE WAS PREPARED. WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT.

I'LL GO OVER AT A HIGH LEVEL.

BUT IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT NOTICED WHEN YOU WERE READING THE REPORT, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO SAY.

OUR AGENDA TONIGHT WILL BE THE OBJECTIVE AND SCOPE OF OUR AUDIT, AN OVERVIEW, THE AUDIT RESULTS, FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, AND A QUESTION TIME.

THE OBJECTIVE OF THE AUDIT IS PER THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, A MUNICIPALITY SHALL HAVE ITS RECORDS AND ACCOUNTS AUDITED ANNUALLY AND SHALL HAVE AN ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT PREPARED BASED ON THAT AUDIT, AND THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT, INCLUDING THE OPINION, WILL BE DELIVERED TO THE STATE WITHIN 180 DAYS.

THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE RULE, BUT IT WAS NEVER ENFORCED.

THEN WITH HOUSE BILL 1851 COMING THROUGH, WHERE THEY'RE SAYING THERE'S A DUE DATE AND THEY'RE GOING TO ENFORCE IT AND POSSIBLY CITIES NOT BEING ABLE TO RAISE THEIR TAX RATE, AND WE HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT WITH SEVERAL OF OUR CITIES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.

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THE SCOPE OF THE AUDIT, WE CONDUCTED THE AUDIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS AND GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS ISSUED BY THE COMPTROLLER OF THE US.

THAT'S THE YELLOWBOOK AUDIT YOU SOMETIMES HEAR ABOUT.

THAT IS JUST ON COMPLIANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE DID.

WE DOCUMENTED AND EVALUATED OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION OF ACCOUNTING INTERNAL CONTROLS.

WE PERFORMED A RISK ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE THE NATURE, EXTENT, AND TIMING OF OUR PROCEDURES.

WE ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO PLAN, PERFORM AN AUDIT TO OBTAIN REASONABLE ASSURANCE ABOUT WHETHER THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE FREE OF MATERIAL MISSTATEMENT.

WE PERFORM TEST OF THE COMPLIANCE WITH CERTAIN PROVISIONS, LAWS, REGULATIONS, CONTRACTS, AND GRANTS, LIKE I WAS SAYING, INCLUDING YOUR PFIA COMPLIANCE.

IN THE LETTER, IT TALKS ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOPICS AND COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE NEED TO REPORT TO YOU, SO YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO READ THAT.

BUT AN OVERVIEW OF THAT IS, WERE THERE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE AUDIT? NO, THERE WASN'T.

THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL RISKS THAT WE FOUND WITH THIS AUDIT.

THERE'S ALWAYS IMPROPER REVENUE RECOGNITION AND MANAGEMENT COULD OVERRIDE CONTROLS.

THOSE ARE THINGS THAT EVERY AUDIT HAS TO DEAL WITH, BUT IF THERE WAS A FINDING OR SOMETHING TO DO WITH AN AREA, WE MIGHT IDENTIFY MORE RISKS.

THERE WEREN'T ANY HERE.

THERE'S NO INDEPENDENCE MATTERS TO REPORT, NO SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES OR MATERIAL WEAKNESSES.

WE ARE GOING TO BE ISSUING AN UNMODIFIED AUDIT REPORT AND A REPORT ON INTERNAL CONTROLS WITH NO FINDINGS.

THERE'S NO OTHER MATTERS. OUR REPORT FOR THE INDEPENDENT AUDITOR REPORT IS UNMODIFIED OR CLEAN, AND THIS OPINION IS WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE.

THEN OUR COMPLIANCE REPORT DUE TO THE GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS, THAT ALSO HAS NOTHING. JOB WELL DONE.

IN YOUR BOUND REPORT, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THIS IS THE INDEX, AND I'LL JUST GO OVER IT AND TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S IN YOUR REPORT SO THAT YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT LATER IF YOU WANT TO.

ON PAGE 1 THROUGH 3, THERE'S THE INDEPENDENT AUDITORS REPORT THAT I TALKED ABOUT AND IT'S UNQUALIFIED.

THEN THERE'S THE MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS ON PAGE 5 THROUGH 15.

THAT IS BASICALLY JUST A DISCUSSION OF WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE YEAR TO THE FINANCIAL RECORDS, AND IT CAN PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION AND ASSIST THE READER WITH THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

ON PAGE 18 THROUGH 21 IS THE GOVERNMENT WIDE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

THEY ARE FULL ACCRUAL, AND IT'S EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY HAS, ALL ACTIVITIES, COMPONENT UNITS, EVERYTHING IS THERE.

ON THE PAGES 22 THROUGH 25 OR YOUR FUND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE MORE USED TO SEEING BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MODIFIED ACCRUAL AND NOT THE FULL ACCRUAL.

THE PROPRIETARY FUND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE ON PAGE 26 THROUGH 29.

YOUR NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE ON PAGE 30 THROUGH 63.

THERE'S A LOT OF DISCLOSURES AND THINGS THAT SUPPORT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THE DEBT, AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE IN THOSE NOTES.

THERE'S REQUIRED SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION ON PAGE 65 THROUGH 71.

THAT IS YOUR TMRS DATA AND YOUR BUDGET TO ACTUAL INFORMATION.

THEN IN THE BACK ALSO IS THE COMBINING NON MAJOR FUND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AT 74 THROUGH 77, AND OUR COMPLIANCE REPORT IS IN THE BACK.

LET'S GO TO SOME FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS.

THE GOVERNMENT WIDE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE ON PAGE 18 THROUGH 21, WHICH I SAID IS THE FULL ACCRUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

WE LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE NET POSITION BECAUSE THAT IS BASICALLY THE EQUITY OF A CITY LIKE IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS.

AS OF THE END OF THE YEAR, SEPTEMBER 30, '25, THE NET POSITION OF THE CITY IN TOTAL WAS 76 MILLION, AND THAT DOES REPRESENT AN INCREASE OF 2.7 MILLION FROM LAST YEAR.

THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE INCREASE IS DUE TO THE INCREASES IN TAX REVENUE, INCLUDING PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX.

YOU HAVE TWO COMPONENTS OF YOUR NET POSITION, YOUR INVESTMENT IN YOUR CAPITAL ASSETS, WHICH IS EXACTLY THAT.

YOUR ASSETS MINUS YOUR DEBT IS 51.2 MILLION.

THE UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION, WHICH IS THE MONIES THAT YOU CAN SPEND TO RUN THE CITY THAT AREN'T SPOKEN FOR ARE NOT IN ASSETS AND NOT RESTRICTED, THAT'S 20.9 MILLION AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

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THE REVENUES DID DECREASE ABOUT 194,000 OR 2% FROM LAST YEAR, BUT YOUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE INCREASED BY ABOUT 549,000 OR 10% AND GRANTS DECREASED BY ABOUT 1 MILLION OR 53% AND FROM LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE OF YOUR CSLFRF MONIES THAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR.

YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE THIS YEAR.

TOTAL EXPENSES INCREASED BY 574,615 OR 8% WITH YOUR LARGEST INCREASE IS JUST YOUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS.

YOUR BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITIES, THAT'S YOUR WATER FUND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT REVENUE DECREASED BY 1.9 OR 21% JUST DUE TO NON RECURRING GRANTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS.

TOTAL EXPENSES INCREASED BY 792,000 OR 13%, AND THE INCREASE IN THAT IS DUE PRIMARILY TO PERSONNEL AND WATER PURCHASES.

YOUR GENERAL FUND LIQUIDITY, THERE'S 26 MONTHS OF RESERVE, AND THAT IS CALCULATED BY TAKING YOUR UNASSIGNED GENERAL FUND BALANCE DIVIDED BY YOUR EXPENDITURES TIMES 12 MONTHS, AND IT CAME OUT WITH A VERY GOOD RESERVE.

THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE GFOA IS AT LEAST 3-6 MONTHS.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF MONEY SITTING THERE, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT IS SOME MONEY THAT YOU COULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND LOOK AT USING FROM YOUR GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS GOOD.

WATER AND SEWER FUND.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION OF THAT FUND AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

IT WAS 9.1 MILLION VERSUS LAST YEAR OF 7.5 MILLION.

THAT'S AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 1.5 MILLION OR 20%.

THIS FUND ALSO HAS A RESERVE OF ABOUT 18 MONTHS.

THERE IS NO RULES OR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE GFOA, BUT IT IS GOOD ALSO TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE FUND HAS A RESERVE.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT ITSELF BY THE REVENUES THAT COME IN FOR THE WATER AND SEWER IS SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR IT AND IT OBVIOUSLY IS DOING THAT WITH THE RESERVE, SO THAT'S GOOD.

WE JUST HAD ONE RECOMMENDATION, AND THAT IS THE DEBT SERVICE FUND ENDING NET POSITION STANDS AT 107,045 WITH A NET LOSS OF 152,000 DURING THIS YEAR, AND WE JUST RECOMMEND THAT MONITOR THAT FUND TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T TURN NEGATIVE.

USUALLY, THERE'S MONIES THAT COME IN THERE FROM THE TAX DOLLARS AND THAT THING AND DEBT TO COVER IT.

WE JUST NOTICED THAT IT WAS GOING GETTING TO WHERE IT MIGHT GO NEGATIVE, BUT THAT CAN BE WATCHED.

SOMETIMES FUNDS WILL DO THAT FOR VARIOUS YEARS, BUT YOU CAN KEEP AN EYE ON IT. LET'S SEE.

I DID REALLY WANT TO THANK GRANT AND PATTY.

GRANT DID A GREAT JOB.

HE SAID HE WOULD CLOSE AND BE READY IN NOVEMBER AND HE WAS.

LET'S SEE. DO WE HAVE ANY AJES? WE HAD ONE AJE FOR $487.

THAT WAS MAGNIFICENT.

THIS IS PROBABLY THE CLEANEST AUDIT THAT I'VE DONE ALL YEAR, SO CONGRATULATIONS.

[APPLAUSE]

>> GRANT DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB.

>> YES. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE NOTICED OR WANTED TO ASK ABOUT OR ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS [INAUDIBLE]? [BACKGROUND] MR. SHARPE.

>> YOUR 3-6 MONTH RESERVE FUND THAT YOU RECOMMEND.

CAN YOU GIVE A PERSPECTIVE ON, SAY, THE MEAN NUMBER OF MONTHS AND CITY'S RESERVE FUNDS, SAY ACROSS TAXES OR IS THERE SOME OF BACKING DATA ON THE RECOMMENDATION?

>> WELL, THIS COMES FROM THE GFOA, AND THEY'RE THE EXPERTS, AND SO THEY RECOMMEND 3-6 MONTHS, AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT I'LL SEE SOMEWHERE IN RANGE.

THERE'S ALWAYS A FEW CITIES THAT DOES HAVE EXTRA MONEY AND HAVE A RESERVE.

BUT I WOULD SAY YOURS IS DEFINITELY HIGHER THAN MOST THAT I'VE SEEN.

>> MR. B?

>> I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE GRANT AND I HAD A DISCUSSION OFFLINE SINCE THIS AUDIT CAME OUT, AND MAYBE GRANT CAN SPEAK TO THIS BETTER THAN I DO.

THAT RATIO IS BASED ON THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S EXPENSES.

I THINK HE SUGGESTED IT WAS MORE

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>> YEAH. A [INAUDIBLE] BIT PROCESS AT RESERVES.

LOOKING AT HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE TO FUND THE MIX YEAR COMPARISON, ITS ABOUT A PERCENT IT WAS JUST A LITTLE OVER YEARS RESERVES BASED ON THE MATURE.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE.

WHEN WE DO IT, OF COURSE, WE'RE JUST LOOKING STRAIGHT AT THE YEAR THAT WE'RE AUDITING.

BUT IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING TO SPEND GOING FORWARD.

IT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE. IT'S NOT.

>> QUESTION ON PAGE 56, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A GRANT THAT WAS TAKEN OVER BY ANOTHER GUARANTOR, 417,000.

THE AUDITOR NOTED IT.

I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THAT WAS.

>> YEARS AGO, I BEEN [INAUDIBLE].

>> IT'S JUST BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

IT WAS JUST TIME TO LET IT GO.

IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY INCOME EFFECT, THOUGH, YOU'RE TAKING IT OFF THE BALANCE SHEET WITH THE PRIOR PERIOD.

>> [INAUDIBLE] DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT?

>> GOING BACK TO THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU HAD JUST A MINUTE AGO ABOUT THE EXPENDITURES FOR THIS COMING YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING MORE.

BUT ESSENTIALLY JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, WE'RE GOING TO BE FUNDING OUT OF SOME MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS THIS NEXT YEAR.

IT'S NOT THAT OUR REGULAR OPERATING EXPENSES ARE GOING UP SUBSTANTIALLY.

IT'S THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL EXPENDITURES THAT WE'VE GOT THE CASH TO PAY FOR.

THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS TO USE IT.

THE ONE FUND THAT YOU SAID WE HAD A DECREASE IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND.

I REMEMBER THE BALANCE IN THAT ONE, 381,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? IT DROPPED BY 150?

>> LET'S SEE.

THAT WAS [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU, FOR STATING THAT.

>> BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY $100,000 LEFT.

AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP DOING THAT, IF YOU DON'T.

>> WE ALWAYS KEEP EXTRA MONEY IN RESERVES FOR OPERATING THE CITY IN CASE THIS CASE SCENARIO HAPPENS, AND THERE'S NO REVENUE COMING IN.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO AND OPERATE THE CITY AND PAY OUR BILLS AND WATER BILL.

THAT'S SUCH A GAMBLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW YEAR TO YEAR WHAT'S COMING IN ON THE WATER, WE'RE GOING TO SELL A LOT OF WATER OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO SELL ANY, AND WE DO HAVE SOME EXPENSES THAT WILL COME OUT OF THE WATER FROM THE WATER TOWER IN PARTICULAR.

THERE MAY BE A BIT MORE THAN NORMAL.

JUST TO EXPLAIN THAT.

GRANT, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY.

>> GREAT JOB GRANT.

>> GREAT JOB, GRANT. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD TAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AUDIT AS PRESENTED.

>> MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE AUDIT AS PRESENTED.

>> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I SECOND.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MAYOR PRO TEM PILGRIM AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BILLY BARON TO ACCEPT THE AUDIT AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[01:40:01]

NEXT, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 7,

[7. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2026–880 PROVIDING FOR THE EXECUTION OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING (MOU) BETWEEN TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE CITY OF PARKER. ]

MR. MAYOR, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.

>> YOU BET, MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITIZENS.

THIS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

THIS IS FOR THEIR TEMAT, AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF JARGON, WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT TM SEEMS TO BE EXPERTS IN THAT.

THIS IS TEXAS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE TEAMS. THEY SERVE IN TIMES OF DISASTER.

THEY'RE COMPRISED OF DIFFERENT, I GUESS, VOLUNTEERS, IF YOU WILL, FROM ENTITIES ALL ACROSS THE STATE.

SO LOCAL CITIES, COUNTIES WILL STAFF THESE TEAMS, AND WHEN A DISASTER HITS, THAT'S WHEN TDEM TRIGGERS THEM TO GO AND RESPOND.

THE MOU BEFORE YOU IS A, I GUESS, COLLECTION OF PAST MOUS.

THE WAY THEY USED TO DO IT WAS EACH ENTITY WOULD HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT MOUS BASED ON THE TEAM THAT THEY'RE SIGNING UP FOR.

THIS STREAMLINES IT AND PUTS IT ALL INTO ONE DOCUMENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MEDICAL TEAMS. THE MOU IS ALSO GOING TO BE GOOD FOR FIVE YEARS VERSUS THE PREVIOUS TWO YEAR CYCLES.

ONE THING I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ON THIS IS THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE THE CITY OF PARKER TO CONTRIBUTE MEMBERS TO THE TEAMS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT JUST GOT ITS FIRST FULL TIME MEMBERS THIS PAST MONTH.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO STAFF THAT.

JUST TALKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HERE.

BUT MAYBE A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OR POLICE DEPARTMENT MIGHT BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO STAFF THOSE TEAMS. OF COURSE, THERE'S AN APPLICATION PROCESS WITH THIS.

WE WOULD HAVE TO GET INPUT FROM CITY COUNCIL IF THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.

THE MAIN POINT OF THIS MOU IS TO GO AHEAD AND PAVE THE PATHWAY FOR REIMBURSEMENT SHOULD A SITUATION ARISE.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE PAPERWORK IN PLACE.

IT WOULD JUST BE UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE INDIVIDUALS APPLYING TO BE A PART OF THESE TEAMS. ANOTHER POINT I JUST WANT TO MENTION IS THIS DOES NOT IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO RECEIVE AID IN THE EVENT OF A DISASTER.

WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS. MS. BOGDAN.

>> THIS INCORPORATES PUBLIC WORKS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY? YEAH, I'LL GET THAT OUT OF THIS.

THEN THERE WAS VERY SPECIFIC RULES AND REGULATIONS FROM THE STATE REGARDING TRAINING, KEEPING UP WITH HOURS, KEEPING UP WITH EQUIPMENT, KEEPING UP WITH A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION IN ORDER TO BE NUMBER ONE REIMBURSED AND NUMBER TWO TO BE QUALIFIED.

WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS PROGRAM AND WHO IS GOING TO KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THAT WORK BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF WORK TO KEEP UP WITH THE STATE REGULATIONS ON THIS.

>> VERY VALID QUESTION.

FROM A MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T SEE US STAFFING THESE TEAMS IMMEDIATELY.

YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WOULD BE A LOT OF TASKS THAT WOULD FALL ON OUR SHOULDERS.

THEY DID POINT OUT THAT THROUGH THE REIMBURSEMENT MECHANISM, THERE IS AN AUTOMATIC 5% INCREASE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.

THIS IS A COMPLAINT THAT HAS COME UP REGULARLY WHEN THESE TEAMS DEPLOY, USUALLY, THIS ADDITIONAL PAPERWORK LANDS ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S DESK IN ADDITION TO THEIR NORMAL DAY JOB.

THEY WANTED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT THAT 5% BUMP.

I REALLY JUST SEE THIS AS BEING IN PLACE, LET'S SAY SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN ACROSS THE STATE AND COUNCIL CAME TO US.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN SUPPORT OF THAT? AT LEAST WE'VE GOT ALL THE PAPERWORK IRONED OUT.

FROM TALKING WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVE VICTORIA, SHE MADE IT SEEM AS THOUGH WE DID NOT HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THOSE ASPECTS UNLESS WE HAD A QUALIFIED TEAM MEMBER WHO APPLIED AND WAS ACCEPTED TO THE TEAM. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> WHY DO THIS IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE QUALIFIED IN KEEPING UP WITH THE PAPERWORK AND KEEPING UP WITH ALL THE TRACKING.

I JUST DON'T SEE A BENEFIT BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF TRAINING WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH AND KEEPING UP WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND ALL OF THAT.

I JUST DON'T SEE THAT WE ARE CAPABLE AT THIS TIME OF ALLOWING OUR STAFF TO GO ON THIS, ESPECIALLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I MEAN, OUR PART TIME GUYS CANNOT GO BECAUSE THEY'RE FULL TIME SOMEWHERE ELSE.

[01:45:04]

>> I THINK IF THE SITUATION COMES UP, IT COMES TO COUNCIL AND AT THAT POINT, WE'LL MAKE A DECISION.

>> WHAT ABOUT ALL THE PRE-WORK AND ALL THIS TO KEEP THIS UP?

>> A LOT OF THAT, I THINK, WE ALREADY HAVE.

FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK CHIEF PRICE KEEPS UP WITH THE TRAINING AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR HIS DEPARTMENT.

I THINK DIRECTOR MACHADO KEEPS UP WITH HIS DEPARTMENT.

I'M ASSUMING, JUSTIN, THAT YOU KEEP UP WITH ALL THE TRAINING AND REQUIREMENTS.

I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY KEEP ANYWAY.

WELL, BUT AGAIN, IF IT COMES TO US WHERE WE WOULD LIKE A MEMBER TO GO AND A MEMBER ACROSS, BUT AT THAT POINT, WE'LL MAKE THE DECISION.

IF THEY'RE NOT QUALIFIED, THEY'RE NOT QUALIFIED.

GO AHEAD. MR. BARRON.

>> MY CONCERN IS THAT WE ARE SO SHORTHANDED ACROSS THE BOARD FOR POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS, FIRE, ALL OF THEM, THAT I DON'T KNOW EVEN IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY IN OTHER PART OF THE STATE, THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO LET ANYBODY GO.

>> WELL, I GUESS TO ME, THAT'S A DECISION WE MAKE AT THE TIME, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. MS. HUBERT.

>> WHAT IS THE DRAWBACK FOR US TO NOT ACCEPT THE MOU TONIGHT OF THE ADVANCEMENT?

>> FROM OUR CONVERSATION, WE HAD A JOINT MEETING WITH VICTORIA, WHO'S A REPRESENTATIVE WITH TDEM.

SHE PRESENTED IT TO US AS THOUGH WE COULD FORMALIZE AND ADOPT THIS AND ESSENTIALLY PUT IT ON THE SHELF UNTIL IT'S NEEDED.

IF A DISASTER WERE TO HAPPEN THAT WE WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN, AT THAT POINT, AT LEAST WE WERE TWO STEPS AHEAD ON GETTING THIS MOU, BECAUSE WHAT SHE HAD MENTIONED IN THE PAST IS A DISASTER WILL STRIKE, EVERYBODY WANTS TO HOP IN AND SUPPORT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR THE HILL COUNTRY? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR THE BASTROP FIRES? WELL, TDEM WOULD THEN COME IN AND SAY, "WELL, DO YOU HAVE AN EXECUTED MOU FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE TRAINING ASPECTS?" TYPICALLY, THE ANSWER IS, NO, HOW DO WE GET GOING WITH THAT? THEN THE PAPERWORK HAS TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL? IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE A MEMBER CAN EVEN APPLY TO BE ON THE TEAM.

YES, THERE ARE OBLIGATIONS WITH THE TRAINING OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE NORMALLY DO.

BUT THAT COULD ALSO BE A BENEFIT.

IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE STAFFED UP OR WE SAY, WE HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS MEMBER WHO WANTS TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING, WELL, THEY COULD GET PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THIS TEAM, THEY COULD GO TO GET THE TRAINING AND THEN BRING THAT BACK AT NO COST TO US.

>> MR. PILGRIM.

>> I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING WE COULD SAY OR YOU SET IT ON THE SHELF.

YOU CAN SET THE TRAINING ON THE SHELF, THOUGH, DON'T WE HAVE TO BEGIN SOME?

>> THAT IS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING.

ONLY WHEN A MEMBER APPLIES AND IS ACCEPTED ONTO THE TEAM WHEN WE WOULD NEED TO ENSURE ALL THE TRAINING AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, SIR?

>> IS IT UP TO THE MEMBER INDIVIDUALLY TO DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO APPLY JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE INTERESTED IN BEING ELIGIBLE TO HELP OR WHAT GUIDANCE DOES OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM GIVE PEOPLE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO SIGN UP?

>> I THINK THAT'S A POLICY THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE IN PLACE.

I THINK WE WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO AN INDIVIDUAL IF THEY HAD THE HEART FOR THIS, IF THEY HAVE THE DESIRE FOR IT, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S FEASIBLE TO DO.

>> I THINK ALSO THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD HAVE TO MEET WITH THEIR SUPERVISORY STRUCTURE TO SAY, WOULD IT BE A HARDSHIP TO THE DEPARTMENT IF FOR EXAMPLE A POLICE OFFICER IS MOVED, WHAT EFFECT WOULD IT HAVE ON THE CITY? THOSE DISCUSSIONS WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR. MR. SHARPE.

>> YOU TALK ABOUT THE REIMBURSEMENT.

WHO IS BEING REIMBURSED, AND WHAT ARE THEY BEING REIMBURSED BASED ON?

>> SURE. THE CITY WOULD BE THE REIMBURSEE.

IF WE SENT AN EMPLOYEE TO A DISASTER IN ANOTHER LOCALITY, THEN WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PAY THEIR SALARY COSTS AND ALL THE FRINGES THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT AND THEN AFTER THE EVENT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SUBMIT THAT REIMBURSEMENT SO THAT WE'RE NOT OUT ANY MONEY FOR SUPPORTING THAT DISASTER PLUS THE 5% ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT IS NOW A PART OF THE PROCESS.

[01:50:04]

>> IS THERE ADDITIONAL INSURANCE THAT HAS TO BE CARRIED AS A COMPONENT OF SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY?

>> I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> NOT THAT THEY INDICATED THAT YOU MISS THAT QUESTION. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

>> DO YOU KNOW IF THEY INDEMNIFY US FOR ANY LIABILITY THROUGH THIS MOU?

>> I DO NOT KNOW THAT ONE. I'M SORRY, SIR.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT FURTHER.

>> COUNCIL, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO THIS?

>> I SPOKE WITH KELLY STYLER WHO'S A RESIDENT IN PARKER, WHO'S ON THE TEXAS STATE COMMISSION, AND HE SAYS THAT REIMBURSEMENT FOR THIS CAN TAKE YEARS, NUMBER ONE, DOING WITH A FEDERAL AGENCY AND THE STATE AGENCY.

THAT'S ONE PROBLEM WITH THIS.

ALSO, HE SAID THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTUAL SALARY, THAT THIS COVERS THE OVERTIME, I THINK THAT IS WHAT HE SAID AS FAR AS THIS GOES.

THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO BACK-FILL ANY POSITION, SO WE HAVE TO PAY THAT PERSON TO THE BACK-FILL THE POSITION.

I JUST DON'T SEE THIS.

I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR THE BIG CITIES THAT HAVE PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS A FIT FOR US.

IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.

WE NEED INFORMATION ABOUT INDEMNIFY.

THANK YOU. WE NEED INFORMATION ABOUT INSURANCE.

I DON'T THINK WE KNOW ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IN THIS.

>> I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA CONCEPTUALLY.

I JUST NOT SURE IF WE'RE A LARGE ENOUGH CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

I GUESS, BEFORE WE MAKE ANY FINAL DECISION, AND I'M FINE WITH GETTING MORE INFORMATION.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM CHIEF PRICE AND MILLER AND FROM GARY IN TERMS OF WHAT'S THE PROBABILITY THAT EACH OF YOU THINK YOU WOULD EVEN WANT TO HAVE SOME OF YOUR STAFF PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THIS?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> I MISSED. THAT'S MY FOR I THINK SIDE. FIRE VARIOUS TYPES OF.

IT'S NOT JUST PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT DOESN'T WORK.

IT TAKES ABOUT TWO YEARS THEY CALL ALL HAZARDS FOR LIKE A TORNADO NATURAL DISASTER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YES, OUR MEMBERS ARE CERTIFIED TO DO THAT, BUT THEY'RE NOT WANT US TO STAY IN OUR CITY WORK OUR RESOURCES HERE TO GO ELSEWHERE.

YOU THINK AS FAR AS THE BACKFIELD CORRECT.

YOU S SAY I'M YOUR FULLI GUY.

YOU SIT OUT, YOU'RE PAYING ME THEY COVER YOUR SALARY, THEY COVER OVERTIME, BUT THEY ALL THAT YOU HAVE TO HIRE FROM BACK TO BACK.

THE REIMBURSEMENT TAKE YEARS.

IT JUST DEPENDS HOW BIG YOUR PAPERWORK.

[01:55:03]

I TOOK THE CLASS ON THIS CLASS.

I CAME DOWN THE PAPERWORK IN TIME TO RE DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, SAVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU POSSIBLY CAN.

YOU'LL GET YOUR REIMBURSEMENT BACK FAIRLY QUICKLY.

I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE TAKE LONGER THAN A YEAR FROM FAIRVIEW WHERE I WORK FULL TIME.

BUT L [INAUDIBLE] NOT GETTING ASKED TO FULLY ORIETATION.

AND YOU CAN ALL YOURSELF YOU HAVE COURSES I RE GO ON THESE REQUIREMENTS IF YOU CHOSE TO.

HE ACTUALLY DOES THAT WITH HIS FULL TIME AGENCY.

BUT HE GAMBLES WITH THAT.

SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING IF YOU PUT US ON THERE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP UP WITH THE TRAINING AND DO ALL THAT. IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT SPEAKING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE READY YET OUR GUY ABOUT OUR WITH OUR ORGANIZATION.

WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THIS ROUTE.

IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE UP OUR TRAINING BUDGET.

YES, THERE ARE GRANTS THAT WE DO GET THROUGH THE FOREST SERVICE WITH THIS.

AND WE OFTEN PUT IN CHECKS ALL THE TIME FOR THEM.

THERE ARE A FEW HUNDRED BUCKS IN THERE, BUT THEY ARE COVERED DUE TO OUR VOLUNTEER STATUS AS WELL THAT WE STILL HAVE FOR ME AND OUR CREW, I PAD MR. T.

I PROVE MADAM MAN.

I GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING ACROSS THE BOARD IS A GREAT IDEA.

BUT FOR PARKER, IT'S NOT AT THIS TIME.

SO WHEN WE GET FULLY STAFFED, BRING IT BACK UP AND WE CAN RECONSIDER IT THEN.

BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME.

OKAY. SO ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WE WILL TAKE NO ACTION AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

>> GOING TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

[8. CONSIDERATION AND ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION CONCERNING RESOLUTION NO. 2026-881 UPDATING THE FY 2023-2024 - FY 28-29 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. ]

YES, MADAM MAYOR, COUNSEL.

JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS ON THIS ONE.

WE ADJUSTED THE TIME FRAME, BUT WE KEPT THAT CONSISTENT SIX YEAR HORIZON THAT SHOWS THE CURRENT YEAR AS THE BASE.

WE ALSO UPDATED THE NUMBERS, OBVIOUSLY TO REFLECT THOSE 2026 REALITIES.

WE CONVERTED SOME OF THE DATA TO WORKING TABLES SO THAT THEY CAN BE MORE EASILY MAINTAINED BY STAFF IN THE FUTURE.

WE UPDATED PROJECT STATUSES, AND THEN WE ALSO ADDED A SECTION TO TAKE THE PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN COMPLETED AND PUT THEM INTO ESSENTIALLY A YOU SAID WE DID ACCOUNTABILITY LOOK BACK.

HERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THOSE SECTIONS LOOK LIKE AS OF TODAY.

OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT THE 25 51 WATER LINE RELOCATIONS THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED THE DELIVERY POINT NUMBER TWO FOR THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, AND OF COURSE, THE WATER IMPACT FEE STUDY.

AND THEN YOU'LL JUST SEE ALL THE PROJECT STATUSES HAVE BEEN UPDATED ACCORDINGLY.

WE'VE GOT DUBLIN ROAD CONSTRUCTION ONGOING, LOUIS LANE IS STILL TECHNICALLY IN PLANNING AND DESIGN, BUT HAS MOVED FORWARD AS OF TONIGHT.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS ON THE HORIZON.

SO TONIGHT, THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO PRESENT IT TO YOU IN ITS REVISION STATUS AND THEN ASK FOR ANY FEEDBACK CHANGES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS THAT STAFF WAS NOT SEEN.

OKAY.

I KNOW THAT MISS BOGDAN HAS AN ITEM SHE WOULD LIKE TO ADD, MISS BOG I HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT AN UPGRADE OR ACTUALLY AN BAND AID OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE BEEN PIECEMEALING THAT FOR A LONG TIME.

I JUST WANTED IDENTIFIED THAT IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND ADDED TO THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

[02:00:03]

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDED. OKAY.

I WOULD ADD TO THAT SLEEPING QUARTERS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I THINK THE WHOLE FACILITY NEEDS TO BE REDONE, AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO COME FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL TO TALK ABOUT THEIR NEEDS AND WANTS AND WHAT'S NECESSARY OVER THERE.

BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE NO LOCKERS.

THEY HAVE NO STORAGE SPACE.

THERE'S LOTS OF PROBLEMS OVER THERE.

SO LET'S ADDRESS THEM, FIND THEM OUT AND GET IT ON THE LIST. OKAY. YEAH.

DEFINITELY, SINCE WE'RE MOVING TO FULL TIME FIREFIGHTER STATUS, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT WAS CONSTRUCTED FOR EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS TALK OF FUTURE PLANS. YEAH.

OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OF MR. BARRON? SO I THOUGHT THAT GREGORY BETWEEN HOGE AND GRAY WAS UNDER CONSIDERATION.

IS THAT BEING HELD OUT DUE TO LEGAL ISSUES? CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN ALSO, I THOUGHT I HAD ASKED ABOUT RANCHEW AND WOOD CREEK A WHILE BACK AND I GOT TOLD THAT IT HAD BEEN REPAIRED.

THERE WAS A REPAIR DONE Y OKAY.

BUT THAT'S NOT THIS PROJECT. NO.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MR. MANTON AND I AND MR. MACHADO ARE LOOKING AT FROM THE CIP PLAN IT SAID THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT THE STREETS EVERY FIVE YEARS.

WE DO A STREET STUDY EVERY FIVE YEARS.

IT WAS LAST DONE IN 2021.

THAT MAKES THIS FIVE YEARS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE WITH OUR CITY ENGINEER.

GARY, COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT.

A NEW FOR AN AGGRESSIVE DRONE THAT DO THE STREET SURVEY, AND WE'RE WORKING WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR MAKING IT A.

THE PROGRAM HAS TO BE PROGRAM. THEY'RE WORKING ON.

SO THE TECHNOLOGY IS LDR, AND CRAIG HAS JUST PURCHASED SOME OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, AND HE'S GOING TO CONNECT IT TO THE FRONT OF HIS TRUCK AND ESSENTIALLY DRIVE DOWN ALL THE STREETS, BUT IT'S GOING TO CUT THE TIME TO FRACTION OF WHAT IT USED TO COST STAFF TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THESE ASSESSMENTS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEASURE EVERYTHING DOWN TO I THINK TO THE MILLIMETER OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, MILLIONS OF DATA POINTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FEED INTO OUR FUTURE DISCUSSIONS AND CONVERSATIONS.

I WILL POINT OUT THAT WE ARE A LITTLE BIT OF THE GUINEA PIG ON THIS, SO HE IS KIND OF EXPERIMENTING WITH THE CITY OF PARKER, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT IN OUR FAVOR.

BUT HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET A NEW AND UPDATED STREET STUDY SO WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT STREETS WE MAY HAVE DESIGNATED A WHILE BACK.

NOW THEY NEED TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD BECAUSE THEY'VE DETERIORATED QUICKER, MORE, WHATEVER. CARNES GRAY LANE.

MR. BARRY.

OKAY. I KNOW THIS IS TECHNICALLY A COUNTY ROAD, BUT AFTER THIS SOUTHPORT DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, TRAFFIC'S GOING TO START FLOWING FROM PARKER ON TO MAC WATER.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO IS THERE SOME WAY WE CAN ENCOURAGE THE COUNTY TO WORK ON THAT OR GET WITH MURPHY AND DO THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT ROAD THAT'S GOING TO DETERIORATE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN TRIP THE C. OKAY.

WELL, I THINK WE COULD, BUT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME STEPS THAT WERE TAKEN TO HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THAT ROAD FIRST.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION WE'D WANT TO HAVE WITH COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MURPHY.

YEAH. WELL, TO BE HONEST YOU, I THINK LIKE LEWIS, WE RECOGNIZED THAT ON LEWIS, WE WERE THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC.

I THINK THE REALITY OF ON THAT ORDER, THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC IS MURPHY.

IS JUST THAT WE'RE FINALLY GOING TO HAVE PARK THE RESIDENTS USING IT TO SOME DEGREE.

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BUT E ON, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR A YEAR FROM NOW.

SO WE'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT WITH THE SOUTH FORK RANCH ESTATES PROJECT, WE ARE REQUIRING AN ESCROW OF THE LINEAR FOOTAGE THAT ABUTS MC WARDER SO THAT WE ARE AT LEAST TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE COST THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO TOWARDS THAT PROJECT.

I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT DRAINAGE.

I WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED TO SEE ON THERE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROJECTS.

LISTED FOR DRAINAGE.

AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT DRAINAGE ALL THE TIME.

SO HAVE WE DONE A STUDY TO FIND OUT AND IDENTIFY WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS LAND DRAINAGE, AND I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN QUICKLY, SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE PROJECT TO THE CIP PLAN, AND IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL ONES, LIKE, I'M UNAWARE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EXISTS.

DO WE HAVE A DRAINAGE PROJECT LIST PRIORITY LIST? SO I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT KIND OF STUFF, SO MAYBE WE NEED TO START TRACKING THAT OR EVALUATING THAT.

YEAH. TWO YEARS AGO.

WE ASKED TO DO A DRAINAGE STUDY OF THE RE CITY IT WAS COST PROHIBIT A COULDN'T DO IT.

SO IF THE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, IT'S EASIER TO DO IT THAT WAY, LIKE OKAY, A STATE LINE NEEDS TO HAVE DRAIN LOOKED AT.

I THINK GARY WOULD KNOW.

RIGHT. SO CAN WE YEAH, WE CAN AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD USE THAT FANCY LIGHTER.

SO AS WE DISCUSSED THESE, THESE ARE GREAT CONSIDERATIONS, ITEMS TO ADD.

I THINK FOR STAFF, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADOPTING A CIP, ADDING IN THESE ADDITIONAL VALID CONSIDERATIONS HERE IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO RESEARCH.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMELINE EXPECTATIONS FOR ADOPTING A CIP? WHAT LEVEL OF, I GUESS, RESEARCH WOULD YOU LIKE US TO DIVE INTO? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, IF WE LOOK AND CONSULT WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO TALK ABOUT A COMPLETE OVERHAUL OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU'VE ESSENTIALLY STARTED ANOTHER PROJECT.

SAME GOES WITH THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF TO JUST PENCIL, SOME ROUGH NUMBERS, AT LEAST GET THIS ON THE RADAR AND BRING THAT BACK BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION, OR WOULD YOU LIKE US TO PAUSE THE CIP FOR NOW AND THEN STEP INTO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH HERE.

MR. SHAW.

I THINK THE CIP HAS BEEN TABLED FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

I'D BE IN FAVOR OF PENCILING THOSE NUMBERS IN.

I THINK BY THE TIME WE WIND UP ACTIONING EVERYTHING IN THE CIP, THE CIP WILL NEED TO BE REDONE.

I THINK IF WE CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR PRECISION IN THE CIP, HAVE A GREAT REPORT IN YEAR 2035, BUT NO ACTION.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE PENCELING, AS YOU CALL.

F DOC.

>> IT CAN BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNSEL EARLIER WHENEVER SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUOUSLY ADAPT WHATEVER. MISS BARKIN.

>> I AGREE LEAVING THAT OPEN LIKE YOU'VE LEFT THE NEW CITY HALL FACILITIES OPEN.

WE DIDN'T EVEN PUT A NUMBER.

I'M OKAY AS LONG AS IT'S IDENTIFIED ON THE LIST, MAYBE START IDENTIFYING IT AS A PROJECT AND START RESEARCHING.

BUT I AGREE WITH THE PLAN, I'M READY TO GO AHEAD WITH THE PLAN, AS LONG AS IT'S NOTED EVEN IF THERE'S NOT A NUMBER THERE.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT. CHIEF PRICE, WE DIDN'T FORGET YOU.

TRUST ME. THE FACILITIES WE ARE ALL CALLING FOR NEW CITY HALL. I DO.

>> I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT? WE HAVE THE WATER AND WORKS BUILDING CARVED OUT, BUT WE HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CO HOMED WITH CITY HALL IN TERMS OF CIP OBJECTIVES.

I WONDER, IS THAT THE RATE THAT SHOULD BE EXPRESSED HERE? SHOULD THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE ITS OWN SEPARATE SECTION? I THINK THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF OPTIONS THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER AROUND THE MODULARITY OF HOW WE CONSTRUCT IT.

SHOULD IT OWN ITS OWN SECTION? IS IT APPROPRIATE THE WAY THAT IT IS?

[02:10:04]

>> THIS IS NOT WE'RE TALKING CIP.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FACILITY AT A DIFFERENT TIME.

THAT ARGUMENT WE'VE THAN THAT MORE TIMES.

WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

AT SOME POINT WE MAKE THE DECISION.

>> I THINK THE MAIN THING FOR TONIGHT IS I'M FINE WITH A CIP PLAN AS IT IS BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE A FLUID DOCUMENT.

IT'S CONSTANTLY GOING TO BE CHANGED, AND WE'LL NEVER GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TWO OR THREE MORE ITEMS ON THE HORIZON, EITHER NEAR TERM OR LONG TERM.

I THINK WE TAKE WHAT WE HAVE, AND THEN I WOULD LOOK TO TWO SOURCES FOR DECIDING WHAT WE PRIORITIZE GOING FORWARD.

ONE SOURCE BEING STAFF BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE AND HOW URGENT THEY ARE, AND THE OTHER IS CITIZEN FEEDBACK, SO THAT THE CITIZENS BEGIN TO TELL US WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT DRAINAGE AREAS, FOR EXAMPLE.

IT'S CONCERNING WHEN GARY MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE DRAINAGE WORK ON LOUIS LANE IS GOING TO LIKELY BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN REPAVING THE ROAD.

IF WE HAVE MANY INSTANCES LIKE THAT AROUND THE CITY, THAT COULD GET VERY COSTLY, BUT I WOULD LOOK FOR A COMBINATION OF GARY AND THEN CITIZEN INPUT WHO HAVE TO DEAL WITH EXCESS WATER WHEN IT RAINS REALLY HEAVY TO GIVE US GUIDANCE ON THOSE ISSUES.

I LOOK TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND FIRE CHIEF AND GRANT EVEN FOR WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE IN TERMS OF ADMINISTRATIVE AND K FOR THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AND HOW SOON.

>> DID YOU HAVE THE COMMENT? I THOUGHT YOU HAD YOUR HAND.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A RESOLUTION, OR DO WE CAN WE JUST LEAVE THIS PEN AND BRING IT BACK?

>> I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF JUST DOING SOME MINIMAL, HIGH LEVEL STUFF.

PUT THE LEWIS DRAINAGE PROJECT IN THERE FOR AND PUT AN ITEM FOR SAY FIRE DEPARTMENT EXPANSION OR REMODEL OR WHATEVER, THROW SOME BALLPARK NUMBERS IN THERE AND THEN BRING IT BACK.

>> WELL, I GUESS I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

I JUST I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION IN HERE.

AS THIS IS A FLUID MOVING DOCUMENT, AND IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE EVERY TIME WE PASSED A RESOLUTION, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PASSED AGAIN AND PASSED AGAIN, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT.

BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION REALLY MAY BE TO KATHERINE.

WHY DO WE NEED A RESOLUTION? WHY CAN'T WE JUST.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST.

THAT'S DONE IN THE PAST, SO YOU'RE REPLACING IT.

>> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

I TAKE IT BACK. YES. WE DID ON APRIL 23. THAT'S RIGHT.

BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST TIME WE EVER HAD A CIP PLAINTIFF. MISS BOG.

>> JUST BECAUSE WE HAD ONE BEFORE, CAN WE NOT ABOLISH IT AND JUST MAKE IT AN ACTIVE LIVE CONSTANTLY CHANGING? CAN WE JUST GET RID OF IT?

>> YOU CAN. WE COULD DO THAT.

WE COULD RESCIND IT, OR YOU CAN JUST HAVE A RESOLUTION EVERY TIME.

ALL THE RESOLUTION DOES IS PUT PAPER TO THE ACTION OF THE COUNCIL.

>> I THINK THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, I HONESTLY DON'T ANTICIPATE US UPDATING THIS MORE THAN ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR.

>> WHY THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION.

WHY DON'T WE TAKE THE UPDATE YOU'LL HAVE INDICATED AND PUT THEM INTO THE PLAN AND THEN BRING THE PLAN BACK WITH A RESOLUTION AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

>> I'D RATHER JUST DO IT TONIGHT WITH THE AMENDMENTS.

JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE DRAINAGE TO LOUIS LANE AND AMEND IT WITH THAT WITH A MOTION AND DON'T HAVE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ACCURATE NUMBERS.

I MEAN, A FIRE DEPARTMENT THING IS GOING TO COULD TAKE A YEAR TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER.

>> NO.

>> I SEE THIS, THIS IS JUST A ROADMAP FOR PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A CONCEPTUAL ROADMAP.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED NECESSARILY THE COST FOR ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT IN HERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

THIS IS A ROADMAP FOR FUTURE.

WE REVISE IT ANYTIME WE NEED TO.

[02:15:01]

>> MR. SHARPE, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING.

>> WAITING FOR THE TIME TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A VOTE.

>> MAKE A MOTION.

>> GOSH. I MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CONSIDERATION FOR A VOTE ON THE CONSIDERATION OF THE APPROPRIATE ACTION, TO SEE CONCERNING ON THE WRONG PAGE. MY APOLOGIES.

>> IT IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-81.

>> THANK YOU. UPDATING THE FY 2023 24 FY 28 29 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

>> I SECOND.

>> CAN TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT I'M ASK TO INCLUDE THE AMENDED SECTIONS NEST DRAINAGE PLAN, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT UPDATE, AND WHERE AM I LEAVING OUT HERE?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'VE ABOUT FIRE DEPARTMENT UPGRADES, STREET STUDY, MARDER, DRAINAGE, MASH RAY, MAS RIDGE, DUBLIN.

WHAT WAS THE OTHER ROD ON THE DRAINAGE?

>> HOW DO REGAS CITY DRAINAGE PLAN? CITY DRAINAGE. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT WITH YOUR YOUR AMENDMENT?

>> YES. I AMEND MY OWN MOTION.

>> BUDDY, ARE YOU ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENT?

>> YES. MADAM MAYOR.

>> AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHARPE AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PROTEIN PILGRIM TO EXCEPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-881 AS AMENDED WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT UPGRADES STREET STUDY, LOOKING AT MCQUAROR CITYWIDE DRAINAGE.

THEN HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ABS OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES 50. WE WILL ADD THOSE AND GIVE IT BACK.

ONCE WE HAVE GOOD INFORMATION.

YOU AND GRANT DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

Y'ALL REALLY DID.

I LIKE THE STREAMLINING IT IN THE FORMATTING THAT YOU HAVE, IT MADE IT AT LEAST FOR ME A LOT EASIER TO READ AND UNDERSTAND.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE HE DID QUITE A BIT OF IT BEFORE HE WAS OFFICIALLY EMPLOYED BY THE CITY OF PARKER.

THAT WAS WONDERFUL.

WE HAVE DONE ITEM NUMBER 9.

WE'RE NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 10.

[10. RECEIVE INFORMATION, DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND/OR TAKE ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO COMMERCIAL ZONING ORDINANCE(S), INCLUDING REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR UPDATE/REVISION.]

YOU ALL GOT THE REPORT IN YOUR PACKET FROM P& Z.

IT IS MY OPINION THAT P&Z DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WERE ASKED TO DO BECAUSE THEIR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WE CAN ACCEPT IF WE WANT IS THAT WE DO NOT DEVELOP ANY COMMERCIAL ZONING, THAT WE JUST USE PD, PLAN DEVELOPMENT. MR. BARRY.

>> I'VE WATCHED THE MEETING.

I AM FIRMLY OPPOSED TO USING PD.

THE REASON WHY IS I WANT US TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS THOUGHT OUT.

I DON'T WANT US TO SAY, THIS IS COMING DOWN THE PIKE.

WE GOT TO ROLL SOMETHING CUSTOM HERE.

IT'S NOT WELL THOUGHT OUT.

THEY'LL BE WE'LL DISCOVER OOPS.

WE DIDN'T COVER THIS CASE AND THEN THESE PEOPLE DO SOMETHING.

I WOULD SUGGEST TO PLANNING AND ZONING TO AT SOME OTHER CITY, AND I WILL LEAVE UP TO THEM WHAT CITY IT IS TO START AS A BASE.

I GOT THE IMPRESSION FROM THE MEETING, THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE JUST THEY WOULD START FROM SCRATCH.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THEY FOLLOW THE SAME PROCEDURE.

WE DID WITH THE NOISE COMMITTEE.

[02:20:01]

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT.

WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPERS AND PEOPLE COME TO CITY HALL, ALL THE TIME AND SAY, CAN I GET A COPY OF YOUR COMMERCIAL ZONING? NO. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

WE DO HAVE IN THE CITY OF PARKER EIGHT ACRES THAT IS COMMERCIAL BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL SAID THOSE EIGHT ACRES AT LEWIS AND LUCAS ARE COMMERCIAL.

THEY SAID THEY COULD BE ONLY CERTAIN THINGS LIKE A FLOWER SHOP.

I DON'T REMEMBER THERE WERE 12 ITEMS THEY COULD BE.

BUT THERE ARE NO RULES.

AS TO PARKING OR, I JUST WAS SHOCKED.

>> I THINK ROXANNE.

>> ROXANNE?

>> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SEND THIS BACK TO PINS AND MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR VERY SPECIFIC THINGS IN AN ORDINANCE WITH I MEAN REGULATIONS FOR THIS.

IT'S GOT TO GO BACK. THEY HAVE TO DO THE WORK.

>> YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND I THINK MISS BARNS ALSO IS RETURN IT TO PNC.

>> I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO AT THE BARE MINIMUM, HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONING SO THAT WE ARE NOT HIT WITHOUT BEING PREPARED.

HOWEVER, I DO LIKE THE PD AND THERE ARE DEFINITELY PROPERTIES AROUND THAT ARE STILL NEEDING TO BE DEVELOPED THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THAT PD PROCESS.

BUT AGAIN, THAT IS A CUSTOM SITUATION.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE READY IN CASE SOMETHING TURNS ON A DIME.

THAT'S A LONGER TERM.

>> I DON'T SEE THOSE AS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

>> MR. I WAS JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU SAID YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONING.

ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT THEY COME BACK TO US WITH AREAS OF THE CITY? WE WANT TO ZONE COMMERCIAL?

>> NO. I'M SAYING FOR WHERE WE DESIGNATE COMMERCIAL ZONING LIKE THAT EIGHT ACRES, THAT IF SOMEBODY WALKS INTO CITY HALL AND SAYS, I WANT TO DEVELOP THIS, THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING TO WORK FROM.

>> YOU'RE WANTING REGULATIONS.

REGULATIONS FOR REGULATION.

BUT THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL ZONING.

YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR NEW COMMERCIAL ZONING.

>> HONESTLY, I WOULDN'T GIVE THAT TO P&Z.

>> WELL, CURRENTLY, WE HAVE NO COMMERCIAL ZONING.

THE IDEA WAS TO GET SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS.

WE HAD SOMETHING.

WE CAN AND WE WERE ASKING P&Z TO DO THAT.

IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL.

COUNCIL CAN THEN ACCEPT IT, NOT ACCEPT IT, REVISE IT, WHATEVER, BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME, NONSENSICAL NOT TO HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONING.

ALSO, I'M HOPEFUL WE CAN GET INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING MAY BE THE CITY OF PARKER NEVER WANTS INDUSTRIAL, BUT AT LEAST WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING BECAUSE PEOPLE ASK GARY, THEY ASK ALL THE TIME ABOUT IT.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

>> I'M FINE WITH GETTING SOMETHING IN PLACE SO THAT WE HAVE IT WHEN WE NEED IT.

IF I THINK ABOUT HOW TO PRIORITIZE OUR TIME, WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IS BEGIN THINKING ABOUT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO CONTROL OUR ETJ LANDS? THAT TO ME IS A FAR HIGHER PRIORITY THAN WRITING THE REGULATIONS FOR ZONING THAT EITHER DOESN'T EXIST OR EXISTS IN ONLY A FEW SMALL ACRES.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT MORE ACREAGE ETJ LAND THAT PUTS THE CITY AT RISK THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

>> MR. BARRY.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> I THINK THOSE ARE NOT CONFLICTING PRIORITIES.

THE ETJ ISSUE I BELIEVE IT IS FOR CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL.

THIS COMING UP WITH COMMERCIAL ZONING REGULATIONS IS A P&Z ISSUE.

I DON'T THINK WORKING ON ONE INHIBITS THE OTHER.

THE OTHER COMMENT I WAS GOING TO MAKE WAS, IF WE DO SEND IT BACK I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY, AND MAYBE IT'S KENT, MAYBE IT'S COUNCILMAN BOGDAN, MAYBE IT'S YOU, MAYOR, OR MYSELF, GO TO THE NEXT P&Z MEETING AND ITERATE OUR STANCE ON THIS ITEM.

>> WELL, P&Z DECIDED THAT THEY COULDN'T HAVE A LIAISON COME TO US,

[02:25:06]

I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO BE THAT PERSON.

I'LL BE GOING TO THEIR NEXT MEETING.

>> WHO IS THE STAFF LIAISON TO THAT COMMITTEE?

>> THE STAFF LIAISON TO THAT COMMITTEE IS GARY MACHADO.

HE'S ASSISTED BY PATTY HALL, AND BOTH OF THEM ARE ASSISTED BY KENT.

ALL OF THEM WERE AT THE LAST MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD THE TIME TO WATCH THAT LAST MEETING AND WHY.

A LOT OF WHY.

JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE INITIATING NOT ONLY FOR P&Z BUT ALSO FOR COUNCIL IS HOW TO READ A PLATE, WHAT TO LOOK FOR.

BECAUSE A LOT OF US DON'T KNOW.

WE'VE NEVER BEEN TRAINED ON THAT.

I'VE LOOKED AT THEM, WE'VE LOOKED AT THEM, BUT WHAT IS IT THAT'S IMPORTANT, WHAT ISN'T IMPORTANT? WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ENGAGING WITH JOHN BIRKHOFF, OUR FORMER CITY ENGINEER, OF DOING THAT FOR US.

HAVE YOU HAD ANY INFORMATION FURTHER ON HIM?

>> WELL, [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T HAVE.

[INAUDIBLE] I DON'T EITHER.

>> WITHOUT GIVING AWAY A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION HERE ON THE PUBLIC AIRWAYS, MR. BIRKHOFF IS TRAVELING QUITE A BIT AND SO THERE'S SOME SCHEDULING CONFLICTS THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH.

>> BUT IT'S ON THE RIGHT.

>> DO THE FOLKS ON PLANNING AND ZONING DO ANY TRAINING THROUGH TML OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? ONCE UPON A TIME THAT WAS REQUIRED, AT LEAST IN THE CITY I WAS IN.

THAT'S WHY I TRUST THAT.

IS BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD ALL OF THE TRAINING.

>> STAFF, MAYOR, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE TRADITIONS OR HISTORY HERE, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY TRAINING THAT IS MANDATORY OUTSIDE OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.

WE HAVE HISTORICALLY NOT BEEN PROVIDING THAT.

AS YOU WILL SEE, WE HAVE PROVIDED SOME TRAINING THIS WEEK THROUGH A WEBINAR SERIES, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT WILL HELP SHORE UP SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.

BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT.

>> MISS [INAUDIBLE]

>> I DO HAVE SOME DATES ON A TALLY OF TRAINING.

WHEN THOSE CLASSES DO BECOME AVAILABLE WE TRY TO REACH OUT TO THEM.

I THINK MISS ESTABROOK AND MISS AMAR HAVE TAKEN THOSE CLASSES MORE RECENTLY.

I DON'T KNOW IN THE PAST BECAUSE BUT I DO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THEIR TRAINING.

WHEN THOSE CLASSES DO COME AVAILABLE, AND I COULD LOOK AT THE TRAINING, THE CERTIFICATES AND TELL YOU WHAT THE NAME OF IT IS, BUT I CAN'T THINK OF IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> HAVING SPOKEN TO ONE OF THOSE TWO PEOPLE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY WHICH ONE, BUT THEY SAID THAT THAT TRAINING WAS MORE OF A, WHY IS PLANNING AND ZONING IMPORTANT TRAINING THAN ANY NUTS AND VOLTS THAT ARE USEFUL IN DECIDING WHAT TO APPROVE AND NOT APPROVE?

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT TRAINING AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO FROM LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER CITIES DO AND HOW THEY OPERATE THEIR P&Z, UTILIZING KATHERINE MORE IN THE TRAINING ISSUES AND PROVIDING THEM SOME MORE GUIDANCE.

>> WELL, LET'S JUST WRAP UP THIS ITEM.

DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEND IT BACK?

>> YES. I'VE GOT A MOTION FROM MISS BOGDAN TO SEND IT BACK TO P&Z.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> THEN, MADAM MAYOR, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF.

WHEN WE'RE SENDING THAT BACK, YOU'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY SEND THE LIAISON AS WELL.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT P&Z HAS VERY SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS ON WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTED TO DO FROM COUNCIL.

>> WE CAN BOTH GO. [LAUGHTER] AT THIS TIME WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOGDAN AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER BARON TO RETURN COMMERCIAL ZONING TO P&Z FOR A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO COUNCIL.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

[02:30:03]

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5:0.

NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY SIMILAR ITEM.

[11. RECEIVE INFORMATION, DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND/OR TAKE ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE, INCLUDING REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR UPDATE/REVISION. ]

WE HAD SENT THE SAME ORDINANCE TO P&Z AND ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE THING BECAUSE IT HADN'T BEEN LOOKED AT IN PROBABLY 20, 30 YEARS, AND WE ASKED THAT THERE BE TWO SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT THEY PAY A SPECIAL ATTENTION TO.

THE FIRST ITEM WAS ELECTRONIC SIGNS, WHICH OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE PROHIBITS.

THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IS THAT WE HAVE ANY PERSON THAT WANTS AN ELECTRIC SIGN TO GO TO ZBA TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE.

THAT'S THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO US.

THE OTHER WE ASKED THEM ON WAS POLITICAL SIGNS AT CITY HALL DURING EARLY VOTING.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS THE BEST I CAN SO BEAR WITH ME.

THEY BASICALLY SAID, YOU COULD HAVE FOUR SIGNS OR 16 SQUARE FEET.

>> FOUR SIGNS WITH UP TO 16 SQUARE FEET.

>> THANK YOU. SIXTEEN SQUARE FEET VIOLATES THE OTHER PART OF OUR SIGN ORDINANCE.

>> I WANT TO STATE THAT THEY JUST GAVE US NUMBERS, THEY DID NOT GIVE US ANY ORDINANCE AROUND THAT, CORRECT?

>> THEY WHAT?

>> THEY JUST GAVE US THE NUMBERS, THEY DID NOT GIVE US AN ACTUAL ORDINANCE TO REVIEW. CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE ELECTRONIC SIGN ISSUE.

THE CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET IS WANTING ELECTRIC SIGN, AND THE PRIMARY REASON FOR IT IS THEY GOT THE OLD STYLE SIGN WITH THE PLASTIC LETTERS YOU SLIDE IN, THEY CAN NO LONGER BUY THOSE PLASTIC LETTERS TO PUT ON THEIR SIGN.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A SIGN THAT'S THE EXACT SAME SIZE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY FANCY GRAPHICS AROUND ANYMORE JUST TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT OUR SERVICES ARE TRYING TO THING.

MUCH LIKE THE COMMERCIAL ZONING, I WOULD SUGGEST FOR ELECTRONIC SIGNS THAT THEY LOOK TO SOME OTHER CITIES, SEE WHAT THEY DID, AND GO FROM THAT.

>> MISS HUBERT?

>> I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT BECAUSE I NEED MORE THAN THEM KICKING IT TO ANOTHER GROUP.

ALSO, HOW MANY ELECTRONIC SIGNS ARE WE POTENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT? I WANT SOME SIZES AND IN AN ORDINANCE.

>> WELL, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE PROHIBITS SOME PERIOD.

THEY NEVER INDICATED THAT THEY WEREN'T OKAY WITH THAT.

THEY JUST SAID, WELL, THAT SHOULD GO TO ZBA.

THEN THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT, WELL, WE'VE GOT SOME EIGHT-FOOT ELECTRONIC SIGNS AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THE LIGHT GLARES OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND WE WANT THE NEIGHBORS TO HAVE INPUT.

TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ELECTRONIC SIGNS IN THE CITY OF PARKER SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

>> I THINK IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. WE JUST SEND IT BACK TO THEM AND I THINK WE ASK THEM TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER CITY ORDINANCES ON ELECTRONIC SIGNS AND PUT LIMITATIONS ON HEIGHT AND WIDTH, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF WE DON'T FIND SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING PARTNER CITIES HERE THAT HAVE SOME PRETTY GOOD REGULATIONS ON LOW PROFILE SIGNS.

>> WHEN WE DID PART OF CITY HALL OR PART OF THE LANDSCAPING AND PUT THE MONUMENT OUT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE FLAGS ARE, WE HAD A DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL AT THAT POINT ABOUT PUTTING AN ELECTRONIC SIGN THERE THAT WE COULD MAKE IT CITY COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT OR P&Z.

[02:35:06]

THAT'S THE LAST TIME THERE'S BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT.

I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO P&Z.

>> WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THE SIGN ORDINANCE BACK TO P&Z.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER BARON AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER HUBERT TO RETURN THE SIGN ORDINANCE BACK TO P&Z FOR THEIR REVIEW, REVISION, AND/OR RECOMMENDATION.

>> WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO PROVIDE AN ORDINANCE SPEC TO US RATHER THAN JUST A LIST OF, HERE'S SOME IDEAS YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU PUT SOME STIPULATIONS ON THESE MOTIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING TO P&Z.

IF THIS IS IN YOUR INTENT THEN INSTRUCTING THEM TO DEVELOP THE STANDARDS WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL THAN JUST ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> I WILL AMEND MY MOTION.

MY AMENDED MOTION WILL BE THAT WE SEND THE SIGN ORDINANCE BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT AN ORDINANCE TO COME BACK, NOT THE [INAUDIBLE] SECOND OF ALL, THEY EITHER NEED TO SAY THERE WILL BE NO [INAUDIBLE] SIGNS TO THE CITY OF PARKER OR PROVIDE US REGULATIONS THEREOF.

>> KATHERINE, IS ORDINANCE THE RIGHT WORD AS OPPOSED TO RESOLUTION?

>> YES.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> YOU ACCEPT THAT CHANGE.

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE ON COUNCIL IN WHICH YOU'VE OFFERED THAT GOES AND EXPRESSLY COMMUNICATES THIS AND MAYBE OFFERS A LITTLE TRAINING OF OUR EXPECTATIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY DOESN'T JUST WRITE ORDINANCES, THAT THAT'S THEIR JOB.

SHE CAN REVIEW THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S NOT HER JOB TO WRITE ORDINANCE FOR THEM.

>> THAT WILL BE PROBABLY NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON THE [INAUDIBLE]

>> HOW MANY ELECTRIC SIGNS COULD POSSIBLY BE COMING AT A REQUEST OF PARKER? HOW MANY SIGNS ARE THERE IN PARKER OUTSIDE OF ELECTION SIGNS? THERE'S THE CHURCH, THERE'S PROBABLY SOUTH FORK.

THEN AFTER THAT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SIGN FOR CROSS CREEK RANCH.

>> THERE COULD BE CROSS CREEK RANCH.

>> WE HAVE A NEW COMMERCIAL ZONE, THAT'S THE POSSIBILITY.

>> NO, THEY'RE NOT.

>> NOT YET.

>> IF THEY ARE. I WOULD SAY 10 OR LESS.

>> IN A RARE MOMENT OF DESCENT, I FEEL LIKE IT MIGHT BE MORE WORK TO DEVELOP STANDARDS THAN IT MIGHT BE TO REFER EACH OF THESE LESS THAN 10, LESS THAN FIVE CASES BACK TO ZBA FOR APPROVAL.

>> BUT WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF THEY HAD SOME GUIDELINES, LIKE A SIZE GUIDELINE? WHAT IF THEY WANT TO COME TO THE HUGE ONE? IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME STANDARD.

>> YOU WANTED TO AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR?

>> SURE. I WOULD AMEND AS AN ALTERNATE AS THE PLAN TO RECOMMEND THE MOST EXPEDIENT COURSE OF ACTION IF THEY FEEL INDIVIDUAL APPROVAL AND THE QUANTITY IS SUCH THAT IT WOULD BE TIME PROHIBITIVE TO ACTUALLY EXERT STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES.

I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THEY CAN VOLUNTARY, WE THINK THAT'S MORE TIME AND IT'S WORTH AND BESPOKE NEGOTIATION.

HONESTLY, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO COME UP THREE TIMES.

WE HAVE ONE COMMERCIAL ZONE, AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SIGN.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK THAT GUIDELINES WOULD BE STABLE ENOUGH TO EVEN SETTLE FOR THEM.

>> I'VE GOT TWO COMMENTS TO THAT.

ONE, I WANT TO HAVE SOME GUIDANCE OUT THERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO SAY, "I WANT A GIANT HIGHWAY SIGN OR WHATEVER, GO TO ZBA".

ZBA DOESN'T HAVE ANY GUIDANCE TO WHAT PARKER WANTS, AND THEY JUST APPROVE IT.

SECOND OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE ON

[02:40:01]

>> I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND TO DO THAT.

LET'S DEAL WITH THE MOTION WE DO HAVE ON THE FLOOR FIRST.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARON AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUBERT TO DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE REGARDING TO DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ELECTRONIC SIGNS.

>> ALL SIGNS. WAS IT ALL SIGNS?

>> NO.

>> NO.

>> IT WAS ELECTRONIC SIGNS.

>> THERE WAS DEVELOPED AN ORDINANCE FOR ELECTRONIC SIGNS AND EITHER REVISE, EDIT, RECOMMEND RESCINDING OUR CURRENT SIGN ORDINANCE.

>> FAIR ENOUGH.

>> I ADDRESS [INAUDIBLE].

>> THAT'S WHAT LIZ TALKING ABOUT RESCINDING OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE.

>> I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO RESOLUTION SEPARATE FOR CLARITY.

>> I'M WILLING TO WITHDRAW UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE SEND THE SIGN ORDINANCE BACK FOR THEM TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE AND STANDARDS FOR THE ELECTRONIC SIGNS, AND THAT'S IT.

>> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> NOW WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS HUBERT AND A SECOND BY MR. BARRON TO RETURN THE SIGN ORDINANCE TO BIONZE FOR THEM TO DEVELOP GUIDELINES AND OR ORDINANCE ON ELECTRONIC SIGNS.

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO ORDINANCES WHAT YOU'RE SHOOTING.

>> THEY DID THE SAME THING. THEY MADE TWO MOTIONS, SO I TO THEM THE SAME WAY.

>> IT'S WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE ORDINANCE IN THERE.

>> THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS ONE SECTION OF IT.

ADDRESS THE SECOND SECTION. I DON'T WANT THEM GETTING LOST.

>> I DON'T WANT TWO ORDINANCES.

>> NO, I DON'T WANT TWO ORDINANCES.

I WANT THEM TO FIX THE SAME ORDINANCE.

>> YOU'RE ASKING. YOU GOT TO MAKE ONE ORDINANCE.

>> YOU'RE WANTING JUSTICE.

>> I WANT THEM TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE SPECIFIC TO THE SIGN REGULATION.

>> I INCLUDE YOU JUST SAY TO INCLUDE SIGN YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT ALL SIGNS, REVIEW, REVISE, AMEND AND REVIEW REVISE.

>> CAN YOU WITHDRAW THAT? I'LL MAKE ANOTHER ATTEMPT.

>> WITHDRAWING.

>> LET ME TRY AGAIN HERE.

>> WELL, GO AHEAD.

>> LET'S TRY THIS. LET'S TRY SEND BACK THE SIGN ORDINANCE TO PLANNING AND ZONING FOR THEM TO REVISE THE CURRENT SIGN ORDINANCE FOR ONE TO COVER ELECTRONIC SIGNS AND TWO TO PUT THEIR SUGGESTIONS FOR POLITICAL SIGNS IN THERE.

>> RECOMMENDATIONS FOR.

>>YES. I GUESS I'M CONFUSED. I DON'T KNOW.

ARE YOU ASKING THEM TO JUST GIVE SUGGESTIONS ON POLITICAL SIGNS OR TO WRITE AN ORDINANCE FOR POLITICAL SIGNS?

>> WRITE A LIE IN THE STANDARD.

>> RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> PENS FUNCTION IS THEY REVIEW.

THEY THEN RECOMMEND.

THEY SEND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

COUNSEL WOULD BE THE BODY THAT MAKES THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> I UNDERSTAND COUNSEL WOULD PASS THE ORDINANCE EARLIER, WE WERE ASKING THEM AND WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC, TELL THEM TO WRITE THE ORDINANCE.

IT'S THEIR JOB TO WRITE THE ORDINANCE.

NOW WE'RE SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I UNDERSTAND COUNSEL IS THE ONE WHO PASSES IT.

IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE SIMPLE SOLUTION IS THIS, IS WE SEND THE ISSUE BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING FOR THEM TO DEVELOP DRAFT LANGUAGE FOR A SIGN ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF PARKER TO INCLUDE POLITICAL SIGNS, COMMERCIAL SIGNS, WHETHER ELECTRONIC OR NON-ELECTRONIC.

>> CAN I SALE SIGNS.

THERE'S ALL SIGNS.

IT NEEDS TO COVER ALL SIGNS.

>> ANY SIGN. PERIOD. ASSIGN ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF PARKER.

RESEARCH IT AND BRING BACK A PROPOSED A DRAFT OF AN ORDINANCE.

>> YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> I'LL MAKE THAT AS A MOTION. I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

>> A SECOND.

>> SPIN RIGHT THERE.

>> BUDDY, WOULD YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION, PLEASE.

[02:45:04]

>> I THINK WE SEND THE ISSUE OF SIGNS.

IT'S A MOTION TO SEND THE ISSUE OF SIGNAGE BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING WITH INSTRUCTIONS FOR THEM TO DEVELOP AN OVERALL DRAFT SIGN ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF PARKER TO INCLUDE ALL FORMS OF SIGNS.

>> SECOND.

>> I RE-SECOND.

>> COULD YOU RESTATE THAT SECOND AGAIN? [LAUGHTER]

>> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MAYOR PROTEIN PILGRIM AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SHARPE TO SEND TO P&Z, THE SIGN ORDINANCE WITH THEM TO DEVELOP, AN UPDATED DRAFT SIGN ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY TO INCLUDE ALL SIGNS.

NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WHEN I CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

IN OPPOSE. THAT CARRIES 5, 0.

JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS TWO OTHER THINGS SENT TO P&Z AND YOU'LL SEE THEM THE NEXT MEETING.

NOW WE WILL GO TO UPDATES.

[12. UPDATE(S)]

THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS CURRENTLY ON OUR CITY WEBSITE.

ANYBODY CAN DOWNLOAD IT THAT WANTS TO DOWNLOAD IT OR READ IT ON THERE.

IT IS THERE, BUT WE PLAN TO GO ON IT ON FEBRUARY 3RD.

I WAS ASKED TO GIVE PUBLIC NOTICE, AND WE HAVE NOW.

2551, MR. MACHADO.

>> I SPOKE WITH THE CONTRACTOR OVER THERE TODAY.

HE HAD A COUPLE OF DELAYS IN THE SUBSURFACE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY A MARCH, IT'S EARLY MARCH START DATE FOR BASE WORK FROM CURTIS NORTH TO ENDING NORTH.

THEN PROBABLY IN MAY, SOMETIME IN MAY WHEN THE START FORM.

>> NO.

>> WHEN THE STAR FORM CONCRETE?

>> THAT'S HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON WEATHER?

>> WEATHER [INAUDIBLE]. THIS WEEK.

>> ANY QUESTIONS ON MR. MACHADO ON 2551? TCEQ. MISS BIGRAM.

>> THE NEW ACTION. THE STATUS UPDATE IS THAT THERE ARE THREE PROPOSED SCHEDULING ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN LAID BEFORE THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE, ONE FROM THE CITY OF PARKER, CALLING FOR A FEBRUARY 2027 HEARING, FINAL HEARING, ONE FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TCEQ, CALLING FOR A SEPTEMBER 2026 HEARING, AND ONE FROM RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, CALLING FOR A JULY 2026 HEARING.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATES ON EACH OF THOSE BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, JUST GOING TO COME DOWN TO WHICH MONTH OR WHETHER THE ALJ PICKS SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.

>> WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE RULE.

>> NO IDEA WHEN SHE WILL RULE.

WE'VE STILL GOT SEVERAL PENDING MOTIONS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING, INCLUDING MOTIONS FOR ADMISSION OF ADDITIONAL PARTIES THAT STILL HAVEN'T BEEN RULED ON SINCE THE SEPTEMBER HEARING.

>> ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THAT? DUBLIN ROAD.

GARY, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON DUBLIN?

>> DUBLIN ROAD. THE BASE WORK WILL BE WELL, WEATHER PERMITTING SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK.

THEY'RE TRYING REALLY HARD TO HAVE THE BASE PAVING DONE BY THE END OF THE WEEK BEFORE THE BACKWATER? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I THINK THAT'S OPTICS.

[02:50:04]

>> HAVE THEY STARTED ON SOUTH OF BETSY?

>> YES. THE BASE PAVING LAYER THEY STARTED TODAY.

>> ARE THEY STARTING AT THE GOLF COURSE OR ARE THEY STARTING AT BETSY?

>> THEY STARTED AT THE SOUTHERN THE GOLF COURSE AND THEY'RE WORKING.

THEY HAD A PROBLEM THERE TODAY WITH LAGERS AND I'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT AND SO CHANGED TOMORROW?

>> QUESTION, MADAM MAYOR. WE LAST TIME.

SIDE STRIPES ON THE ROAD.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO RESEARCH THAT ISSUE?

>> I DON'T HAVE, CHIEF PRICE GOT IT BECAUSE HE WAS, I THINK, OUT OF STATE ON WE NEED TO KNOW IF LEGALLY WE CAN PUT STRIPES AND BUTTONS.

WHAT DOES THE TRANSPORTATION CODE CALL FOR? BECAUSE LAST TIME WE TRIED, WE COULDN'T.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE TRANSPORTATION CODE HAS CHANGED OR NOT.

KATHERINE, YOU COULD ALSO HELP ON THAT.

THE OTHER ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP IS IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THERE, WHAT DOES A DRIVERLESS CAR GO BY ON DUBLIN ROAD?

>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.

I'LL BE BACK TO YOUR ANSWER.

>> IF I MAY, AUTONOMOUS DRIVING DEPENDS ON THE SUITE PROVIDER.

A TESLA SUITE IS DIFFERENT THAN RIVIAN SUITE, ALTHOUGH SOME VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS SHARE AUTONOMOUS DRIVING SUITES AS A MEANS OF COST CONTROL, AS MANY OF THE SECONDARY MARKET DOES, FOR EXAMPLE, A AND CATIA.

BUT IN THE CASE OF TESLA AND RIVIAN BOTH, THEY DO USE LANE MARKERS AS A MEANS TO DETERMINE ROAD BOUNDARIES, IS NOT THE ONLY MEANS THAT THEY DETERMINE THE ROAD BOUNDARIES.

THEY ALSO USE A COMBINATION OF GPS AND INTERSECTION OF THE ROAD.

THIS IS WHY WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING ON A ROAD THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER MAINTENANCE, IT DOESN'T DRIVE YOU OFF THE ROAD OR INTO A ROAD CONE.

IT IS NOT THE SOLE BASIS BY WHICH IT AUTONOMOUSLY DRIVES.

I DRIVE AUTONOMOUSLY ON ROADS WITH MY CAR AND MY MOM'S CAR BOTH BUT HAVE NO MARKINGS WHATSOEVER IN THE CASE OF LOUIS LANE.

MORE ROAD. IT'S A MATTER OF AGGREGATE SAFETY RATHER THAN CRITICAL SAFETY.

DOES IT HELP? YES. IS IT CRITICAL TO KEEP AUTONOMOUS CARS FROM WINDING UP IN PEOPLE'S RALLIES ON A REGULAR BASIS? PROBABLY NOT.

>> WELL, THE LAST TIME WE DID SOME WORK ON DUBLIN.

THE TRANSPORTATION CODE INDICATED THAT WE COULD NOT PUT STRIPES AND BUTTONS ON DUBLIN ROAD BECAUSE IT WAS NOT OF SUFFICIENT WIDTH.

DUBLIN'S 22 FEET AND THE CREATION CODE, I THINK, CALLED FOR 24 FEET.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS STILL THE CODE OR NOT.

>> CHIEF FACE, I ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO FORWARD YOU SOME INFORMATION I RECEIVED ON THAT. I'M GOING TO SEND IT.

>> BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, BUDDY.

>> I JUST WANT TO KNOW BEFORE WE PUT STRIPES DOWN BECAUSE IF WE CAN PUT THEM, I THINK THEY'RE GOOD TO HAVE.

>> I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT STRIPES AND BUTTONS.

IT'S JUST TOO MANY.

>> I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THE FINAL PAVING, IS IT ALL GOING TO BE JUST ONE SWEEP FROM PARKER TO 544 ONCE THEY'RE READY TO DO THAT FINAL PIECE.

>> MISS FLEMING WE ALREADY HAVE THAT UNDERWAY.

BUT THE CONTRACTOR TO THE PLAN HAD A DEATH IN THE FAMILY AND IT'S BEEN A DELAY.

THE PLAN IS ONCE WE GO OUT, START PARK ROAD OR SOUTH AND FINISH THAT FIRST PHASE FIRST, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY AND THEN WORK FROM THERE.

>> AND THAT INCLUDES HOOKING UP THE DRIVEWAYS?

>> YES.

[02:55:01]

>> PERSONNEL MANUAL, I THINK THERE IS AN UPDATE ON THAT.

>> I'M GOING TO BE MEETING WITH MR. SAVAGE THIS WEEK AND THEN PROVIDE THE DRAFT BACK OUT TO COUNCIL AFTER THAT.

>> ANYTHING ON THE WATER BUILDING OR PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING OR WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT THIS WEEK?

>> I DO NOT HAVE A DATE ON THAT.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, WE PLAN ON BRINGING THAT AS A PRESENTATION ITEM AT OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

I THINK CRAIG IS STILL ON THE HOOK FOR COMING OUT AND TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS AND HOW THEY RELATE.

>> THANK YOU. AS YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE LINKS TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS RIGHT HERE SO YOU CAN GO AND LOOK AT ALL THE REPORTS.

NEXT, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER MR. BON.

>> CAN I GIVE A TRAILS UPDATE?

>> NO. IT'S DONE HERE.

>> I THOUGHT IT WOULD FALL UNDER ANY ADDITIONAL.

>> IT COULD, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT WAS REFERRED TO PARKS AND RECREATIONS AND THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY UPDATE.

>> I KNOW STREET FROM THE COUNTY, BUT OKAY.

>> WELL, IF YOU WANT TO, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

>> WELL, NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH PARKS AND REC.

I DISCOVERED THIS WEEK THAT BACK IN NOVEMBER, THE COUNTY APPROVED THEIR TRAILS PLAN AND DID NOT INFORM US.

THAT'S PARKS AND REC DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT.

I DISCOVERED IT BECAUSE SOMETHING KENT, I AND THE REARS ARE WORKING ON AND I WILL SAY THAT AS NEAR AS I CAN TELL THAT MYSELF, COUNCILMAN BAGMAN PARKS AND REC CHAIR, FRANK DACOSTA, ALL GAVE FEEDBACK, AND AS NEAR AS I CAN TELL, NONE OF IT WAS USED.

>> I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD ASKED THAT PARK AND REC DESIGNATE A TRAIL PERSON, A SUB COMMITTEE CHAIR OF THAT.

TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE, DO YOU ALL KNOW OF ANYTHING?

>> I THINK THE MAYOR IS CORRECT.

I THINK IT JUST FELL.

THEY DISCUSSED IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY DECISION, SO IT'S ON FRANK DACOSTA LAP BY DEFAULT RIGHT NOW.

I TOLD HIM ABOUT THIS AND I WILL SUGGEST HE PUT THIS ON THEIR NEXT AGENDA.

>> THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED, SO IT DOESN'T GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.

NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DONATIONS.

[13. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $1,000 [RES. NO. 2024-801]) ]

ONE IS FROM LINDSEY WILLIAMS, WHO DONATED COOKIES VALUED AT $30 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

PAM AND ALLEN TERRELL DONATED A CAKE TRAY, VALUED AT $20 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BOBBY AND MICHELLE VARNER DONATED TOFFEE, VALUED AT $50 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YIN YEN LEE DONATED SNACKS AND DR PEPPER VALUED AT $60 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

LARRY JOHNSON DONATED SNACKS, VALUED AT $50 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

LINDA RYAN AND JEAN LEON DONATED COOKIES VALUED AT $25 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE LEVY FAMILY DONATED BROWNIES, I'M GETTING HUNGRY.

VALUED AT $40 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE LENE FAMILY DONATED COOKIES VALUE AT $20 TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE JOSEPH FAMILY DONATED A BOX OF CS ASSORTED CHOCOLATES, VALUED AT $167 TO CITY STAFF AND THE NAOMI FAMILY,

[03:00:02]

WE ARE SO GRATEFUL AND APPRECIATIVE TO ALL OF OUR GENEROUS RESIDENTS.

YOU'LL JUST OUTDO YOURSELVES AND THANK YOU SO.

IT MAKES SUCH A DIFFERENCE.

THANK YOU. NEXT,

[14. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ]

>> I THINK THE ITEM THAT'S LABELED COMMUNICATION WITHIN COUNCIL RE PROCESSES NEEDS TO BE RENAMED TO WHAT THE MINUTES WERE CHANGED TO EARLIER THIS EVENING?

>> MISS BOGDAN, WHAT DID WE CHANGE THAT?

>> TO THE POLICY AND PROCEDURE AND PROCESS OF HOW THE POLICE PAY SCALE.

>> POLICY AND PROCEDURE.

>> POLICY PROCEDURE AND PROCESS.

>> AND PROCESS.

>> OF HOW POLICE PAY SCALE.

>> ANY OTHER. I'M JUST GOING TO SWITCH THAT OUT.

>> HOLD ON.

>> COMING ALONG THOSE SAME LINES.

I DID MAKE A COMMENT WHEN WE WERE CHANGING THE MINUTES EARLIER BECAUSE YOU WERE TRYING TO CORRECT THEM, BUT I THOUGHT THE ACTUAL PURPOSE AND THIS WAS DISCUSSED BOTH IN ONE OF OUR AGENDA PLANNING MEETINGS ON A WEDNESDAY, AS WELL AS DISCUSSED TO SOME EXTENT THE NIGHT THAT YOU'RE CORRECTING THE MINUTES FOR THAT WE ACTUALLY WANTED IT TO BE BROADER THAN JUST THE POLICE PAY.

IT WAS THE ISSUE AS I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS TO DISCUSS HOW THE PROCESS BY WHICH COUNCIL AND MAYOR AND STAFF WORKED TOGETHER ON MAJOR ISSUES LIKE THE POLICE PAY THING.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> [OVERLAPPING] IT DID IT GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED.

THAT WAS A SPECIFIC ITEM WITHIN A LARGER.

>> BUT BUT IT'S A BROADER ISSUE THAN JUST THAT ONE ISSUE.

>> COUNCIL AND MAYOR COMMUNICATION.

>> COUNCIL, MAYOR AND STAFF PROCEDURES FOR WORKING TOGETHER ON KEY ISSUES.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ON BUDGET ALLOCATION AND ALLOCATING.

BUDGET WITHIN DIVISIONS FOR I GUESS UNIDENTIFIED PURPOSES, OR SOMETHING OF THAT ORDER?

>> I MEAN, I THINK THE DISCUSSION NEEDS TO BE BROADER THAN THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME UP NEXT.

IT MAY NOT BE A BUDGET ISSUE.

>> I CAN PUT THIS ON THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, AND THAT WOULD INCORPORATE OTHER THINGS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] CATCH DISCUSSING THAT [INAUDIBLE]

>> I THINK WE ARE PRETTY VAGUE IN THAT AGENDA MEETING AS FAR AS TRYING TO KEEP IT AS VAGUE AS WE COULD, SO WE COULD DISCUSS MORE ON THAT.

>> CAN I SUGGEST MAYBE PULLING A COUPLE OF ITEMS, ONE BEING TRAIL PLAN.

THAT'S UP TO PARKS AND REC TO BRING IT BACK AND THEN SECOND OF ALL, DO AT THIS POINT, DO WE TAKE LUCAS ILA OFF?

>> YEAH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THAT AND GIVING BETTER DATES.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO AND IT'S A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, BUT IT'S ALSO AN UPDATE.

I WOULD LIKE TO FORM A CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON FACILITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS INTO A SOMEWHAT COMBINATION, IT'S BASICALLY COUNCIL, THERE WILL BE SOME STAFF.

I WOULD LIKE TO DIVIDE THIS UP INTO WHERE THE FACILITY, THE ACTUAL BUILDING WOULD BE UNDER ROXANNE, AND THEN THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PART OF IT THAT WOULD BE FUNDING, WHICH WOULD BE UNDER BUDDY.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT BUDDY COULDN'T GO DEAL WITH THE FACILITY OR THAT ROXANNE COULDN'T DEAL WITH FUNDING.

THERE'S INTERRELATED, BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMEBODY THAT SETS THE MEETINGS AND LEADS.

I WOULD LIKE GRANT SAVAGE TO BE ON THE FUNDING.

I WANT KENT MATON TO ALSO BE ON THE FACILITY.

[03:05:04]

IF YOU WANT TO GO TO ALL OF THEM, THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S UP TO YOU BECAUSE MY THOUGHT AND I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTION ON THIS IS WE WOULD HAVE THE FACILITY AND THE FINANCING.

EACH WOULD MEET AND IT'S COUNCIL AND THE STAFF.

THEN WHEN EACH GETS TO A POINT, WE COME BACK TOGETHER AND FUNDING TELLS US WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE ON FUNDING.

THE FACILITY PERSON COMES BACK AND TELLS US WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ON THE FACILITY.

>> IS THIS BUILDING TOWARD A POTENTIAL FUTURE BOND FOR FACILITIES OR IS THIS A LARGER WE WANT TO BUILD A COURSE SHUT OUT BACK AND WHERE DOES THE FUNDING COME?

>> BUT IN A WAY, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT'LL HAVE TO BE ANSWERED.

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL GO TO BOND.

THAT'S A FINANCING QUESTION.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF TO BE HONEST, IF WE WANTED TO, YOU HEARD THE LADY SAY WE HAD HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAD.

>> MAYOR, I DON'T THINK WE'RE POSTED.

>> I CAN'T JUST FORM A COMMITTEE UNDER UPDATES OR FUTURE.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S SQUARELY UNDER ANY OF THOSE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY POST FOR IT NEXT TIME AND YOU CAN HAVE THAT ION.

>> THEN WHAT WE WILL DO NOW IS IF I CAN FIND MY FEET OF PAPERS, WE WILL RECESS TO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION AS CONTAINED IN ACCORDANCE.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION ]

RECESS TO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 551.071, ONE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY ON THE PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION, A SETTLEMENT OFFER OR TWO ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER.

ON ANY AGENDA ITEM LISTED ELSEWHERE WITHIN THIS AGENDA OR ON THE SUBJECT MATTER LISTED ABOVE.

GREGORY LANE LITIGATION, RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT/ MUD, LOUIS LANE.

AT THIS TIME, WE ARE IN RECESS IT IS 9:21 [BACKGROUND].

LET ME FINISH THIS FIRST.

I HEREBY CONVENE THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF THE CITY OF PARKER.

[RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING. ]

JULY, LISTEN TO ME, JANUARY 20, 2026.

IT WAS 11: 21.

COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY APPROPRIATE DELIBERATION OR ACTION ON ANY OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED.

>> NO, MADAM.

>> THEN NOT HEARING ANYTHING.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

IT'S 11: 22.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.