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[CALL TO ORDER]
HAVE A HAD A MAN OF COUNCIL[WORKSHOP]
THE PERSON THAT.I WORKED ON THIS. WELL, I WILL TRY AND LEAD OFF FROM WHAT I CAN REMEMBER.
YOU'RE TRYING TO TRY TO MAKE CHANGES AS YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE ARE TALKING EVERY DAY.
KIND OF. BUT I THINK THAT WE STROLL THROUGH HERE WE ALWAYS TURN ON.
WE ALWAYS HAD TO TRACK CHANGES ONE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE YOU'LL SEE SOME WRITTEN PARAGRAPH MARKERS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE DOING CHANGE. ALL RIGHT.
PASS THAT PAGE A PASS THAT PAGE ALREADY. OKAY.
WAIT, WAIT. KEEPING US ON OUR.
DOES ANYONE NOT LIKE THE PICTURES FROM THE GOVERNMENT? WELL, THAT WAS AN ISSUE.
PICTURE ESPECIALLY LIKE A PICTURE OF LOS.
AND THIS IS THIS IS AN IMAGE HERE.
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C.WE GOT USED TO HAVING BIG SCREENS IN FRONT OF ME.
OKAY, I BE TIME WEB EVERY READ.
WELL, THIS VERSION SHOULD HAVE SOME MARKUPS FROM THE LAST TIME YOU DEALT WITH IT.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME RED RED LINE.
RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE MARKED UP VERSION THAT PZ HAD THAT WE SENT TO.
BUT EVEN THOUGH WE SENT THE OFFICE SENT ONE THAT HAD ALL THE CHANGES IN THIS IS.
I GUESS I GUESS WHAT I WOULD ASK IS BEFORE WE HAD ANY SIGNIFICANT CONTENT, IF WE ASKED THE COMMITTEE THAT ACTUALLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, IF THEY HAD CONSIDERED ANY OF THAT.
AND THEN IF THEY HAD THEN WE NEED TO ASK THE NEXT QUESTION IS, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR CONT.
THE COMMITTEE CONSIDER ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND ARGUED OVER MANY OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WENT BACK TO HAD DOCUMENTATION WHY OR WHY NOT WE
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SO A LOT OF THINGS WERE ADDED THAT NOT EVERYBODY AGREED ON AND THEN OTHER THING ON SO THE SHORT ANSWER AS ON WHY THOSE QUESTIONS WERE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMITTEE.AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WAS EMPTED WERE FOR A WHILE.
I HAVE A COMMENT. I WOULD LIKE I AS SOMETHING.
AND THAT IS TE MARCH, NEIGHBORHOODS.
YEAH, THERE'S ANOTHER ER TALKS ABOUT.
THE COUNTRY ATMOSPHERE IN PARKER THE COUNTRY IS.
YEAH. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING WITH IS I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I.
WELL, I MEAN, IF I READ DIVISION STATEMENT TO ME TO ME IT SEEMS STATEMENT. ALL RIGHT.
THE CITY OF PARKER STRIVES TO TRY TO LAY BACK COUNTRY LIFESTYLE AND PLACES RESIDENTIAL WITH AND YOU SAID EVERY TIME THE DEFINITION.
I DON'T KNOW I THINK ABOUT DEFINITION OF UNIQUE COUNTRY.
THAT'S WHY I LIVE IN SPRING HILL.
YOU HAVE ONE DEFINITION OF UNIQUELY COUNTRY.
I THINK I THINK THAT LESS IS MORE ACTUALLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'VE ACTUALLY GOT CLE COUNTRY.
YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. BUT PEOPLE.
MR. THE NEXT I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND DEFINITION.
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SO GENERALLY WHAT I'VE ALWAYS DONE WHEN I A DOCUMENT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ELECTRONICS THAT WE BELIEVE THE REAL LINK TO, YOU KNOW, GENERAL LAW CITY.AND THEN YOU INSERT FOOTNOTE. YEAH. YEAH. I LIKE THAT.
I LIKE THAT PATTER I'VE ALWAYS DONE BE ELECTRONIC, YOU HAVE A HYPERLINK ON RAVEL ON WHY YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TO PRINT IT OUT HYPERLINK AT THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS SOMEBODY CAN GO TYPE ON THE PHONE.
I LIKE THAT A LOT BECAUSE THEY CAN GO IN AS MUCH DETAIL AS THEY WANT TO GO THAT WAY THE DEFINITION OF A THEY WANT TO THEY WANT TO GET A COUPLE SENSES, OFF THE UP.
>> SO THAT'S HAPPENED. I THINK I MAKE SURE YOU'RE REIC IS THERE ANY BENEFIT TO THE TA TA LEADER OF THIS TO PUT ANYTHING ELSE THERE ABOUT THE S.
WE GET THAT LAST EX A WE'RE WORKING WE'RE AT A HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT WHERE MARKER IS WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT WHAT WE APA LAST PARAGRAPH
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IN THIS SECTION WHERE THAT SUGGESTION WAS TO ADD SOME SOUTH.AND YOU WOULD YOU OF WOULD BE.
FINISH THERE THE FINISH ACROSS.
WHAT DID HE STILL A CARA TAGER.
OKAY. PER COME ART ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD.
AND THEN THERE'S MENTION IN THE SERIES.
BUT IT DOESN'T SAY WHY ARE THIS ARE PEOPLE DALLAS.
WHAT? BECAUSE, ACTUALLY IT WAS THE MOST POPULAR SERIES IN THE ENTIRE WORD RIGHT.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS MAYBE WE SHOULD SAY THE RANCH WHICH WAS FEATURED IN THE OPENING OR SHOT OF THE TV SERIES.
PEOPLE DON'T I'VE NEVER WATCHED THIS.
HE BROUGHT HIMSELF FOR BRANCH.
FEATURED IN THE OPENING SCENES OF THE TV SERIES THAT AIR TIE THEM TOGETHER.
WELL, I'M SAYING IT'S FEATURED IN THE OPEN SCENE THAN SAY A FEATURED IN THE TV SERIES THAT AIR NOW YOU'RE COVERED JUST LIKE YOU SAID. THAT.
MAY WE PUT CODE YOU BELIEVE IN THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE OF.
OR MISSING IT IT IS THAT? OH, YEAH. OKAY.
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AGAIN. OKAY.YEAH. YEAH. THAT WILL BE EITHER ONE, RIGHT? STATE.
NOBODY CAN HAVE ANY THAT'S RIGHT.
EVERYBODY PLEASE SP PIONS YOURSELF.
OF LES GET PAID FOR? YEAH. PAGE FIVE.
THIS IS PAGE THREE RIGHT HERE. YEAH.
I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE REARRANGED THEM BECAUSE I HAVE HERE. OKAY.
SO SO ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT THIS WE'VE GOT THIS WONDERFUL STATEMENTS STATEMENT, AND IT'S GOT A NICE PICTURE EVERYBODY LIKES THE PICTURE.
OKAY. THERE'S THE ORDINANCE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ARE WE GOING TO THIS? NO. OKAY.
WHEN IT IS THAT'S STILL IN ONE.
AND WE GOT ALL THE RIGHT TO GO IN THE CHAPTER WITH THAT.
TO REALIZE THAT DRAFTED THIS WITHOUT ANY AI HELP, RIGHT? A WITH AI. SO SHOULD WE SUBMIT THIS OR OR THE DEEP SEAT OR WHAT IT MAKES IT BETTER. WE STARTED.
SHOULD WE PUT THAT I REALIZE WORK? YEAH. HOW DO YOU SEE HIM FIRST.
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ARE YOU HERE? WE HAVE CHANGE 35? 35.I THINK WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT I AI GENERATED IN HOLLYWOOD.
>> NOT BY MY THOUGHTS WE DID A SURVEY.
YEAH. MY THOUGHTS WERE THAT THE DATA THAT CAME OUT THOUGH THE RESPONSE DIDN'T SUB BASED ON ALL OF OUR COLLECTIVE PHONE CALLS ABOUT.
>> IT SEEMED TO VALIDATE EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE JUST HEARD.
IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT'S WHY I SAID I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE IT IN THERE BECAUSE IT IS A REPRESENTATION.
EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SURVEY.
YOU CAN GET EVERYBODY TO DO IT, BUT I THINK IT IS A REPRESENTATION, AND TO YOUR POINT, AMANDA, I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE SOME SO THAT WAS MY P IN THERE SHOWING THAT THAT DATA WE GOT ISN'T JUST TO BE A S IT'S MORE OF.
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YES. BUT THE PROBLEM WITH MR. IS WE ASKED FOR, FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, CHOOSE YOUR TOP THREE.WELL, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD RANK EACH ONE, NOT JUST SAY, OKAY, I WANT THIS, WHICH ONE IS MOST IMPORTANT? WHAT THE CS I CHARGE BUT I ACTUALLY DIDN'T LIKE IT AT ALL, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAD.
SO JUST BASED ON NUMBERS SOMBER WHICH ONE WAS TWO WAS THREE SO THAT W NO.
SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
AND AGAIN, WHEN THE DATA CAME OUT, IT WASN'T LIKE WOW.
IF YOU HAD TEN ITEMS AND SAID PICKED THE TOP THREE, THEN TECHNICALLY, YOU COULD DROP SEVEN ITEMS OFF THE LIST, YOU NEVER SEE.
I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT IF YOU IF YOU HAD TEN DIFFERENT ITEMS AND YOU SAID PICKED THE TOP THREE, AND EVERYBODY PICKED THE FIRST TOP THREE, BUT YET THEY COULD HAVE THEY COULD HAVE RATED THEM ALL, THEN AT LEAST YOU WOULD HAVE OF THAT'S CORRECT WAY WAY AWAY RANKING IS TO HAVE ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT MADE IT MUCH MORE COMPLICATED.
SUR. THAT WAS THE REASON WHY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE IT GOT VERY COMPLICATED FOR SURVEY, BUT THAT'S YOUR POINT WITH THE TOP THREE STATISTICALLY.
A 390 I KNOW THIS ISN'T WHAT IT IS.
I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT PROBABLY DOES REPRESENT THE TOP.
BUT YOU COULD HAVE 370 VOTES FOR BOOK DES LOW NUMBER TWO, AND YOU COULD HAVE A COUNTRY ATMOSPHERE LIMITED REPO AND YOU WIND UP HAVING LOST POP YOU GO AHEAD AND SECOND PLACE.
THAT'S WHAT THE BEST SAID YOU CAN'T TELL THAT FROM EXACTLY.
BUT I STILL THINK IT'S A GOOD REPRESENTATION.
AND IT MADE FOR EASY SURVEY BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE GETTING PEOPLE TAKE SURVEY IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND IF IT WAS SO COMPLICATED IF PEOPLE WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND IT, THEN YOU WANT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT RESPONDENTS DIDN'T LIST THEM NUMBER ONE NUMBER TWO? THEY CHECK THREE. THEY CHECKED THREE.
I ACTUALLY TO DO A LOT OF MARKET RESEARCH LOTS OF IT.
AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT'S A BETTER WAY TO ASK A QUESTION FOR YOUR TOP GREATER RATHER THAN TRYING TO FORCE THE SAME CHOICE.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU ASKED FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU ASK WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY THE PRESIDENT TAKE ONE PRIORITY, IT'S MUCH EASIER IF WHAT WOULD BE THE TOP THREE PRIORITY SINGLE IT.
NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE MUCHAS SINGLE AGAIN, MUCH EASIER TO TRACK MUCH EASIER TO COVER.
WELL, I THINK ALSO THE OTHER QUESTIONS AGAIN, CERTAINLY WAS A PERFECT SURVEYS.
YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER ANSWER GET GOOD REST OF.
YOU'LL GIVE MORE COLOR ON THAT FIRST GRAND ONE.
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SECURITY B.SO THAT REALLY CORROBORATES THE.
THAT'S 23 WHICH YOU WOULD FIRST HAVE BEEN ON AD RIGHT SAD THE TOP THREE.
WELL, THIS ONE WAS INTERESTING WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT IN SAY, YOU KNOW, THE DEMOGRAPHIC IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THAT ARE A LITTLE YOUNGER AND THEY'RE TA ON COMMERCIAL AND OTHER INFLUX OF CASH FOR THE CITY AT DIFFERENT I THINK AT THE DID HAVE THAT.
THE WAY I THINK THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN WAS THAT, YES, THE WAY IT WAS ALL THE STUFF.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS. I THINK I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY.
I WAS GOING TO ASK WE HAVE SPECIAL.
WE DON'T HAVE A COMMERCIAL SITE HERE.
YEAH. WE HAVE NO COFFEE SHOP RESTAURANT FARM THOSE PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE OKAY.
THERE THAT O NORTH SO THE COLLIN COUNTY EFFORT FIRST WAS JUST TO GET A POINT OF REFERENCE AND COMPARES GELS.
YOU KNOW I THINK ANYONE WHO HISTORICAL HAVE BEEN AROUND
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A WHILE REM.WHERE AM I GOING? ITS SOMETHING TO BE LET'S SEE, THAT'S A YEAR AND THAT'S POPULATION WE OUGHT TO HAVE POPULATION.
I TECHNICALLY ALL THE TOP OF THE POPULATION POPULATION OF THE DEAL.
A SOURCE THEY HAVE THE SOURCE.
SO ALL OF THIS IS CIRCUIT 2020 NO.
WHEN WAS PAGE I MEAN IN THIS TABLE? YEAH. THE TABLE IS ALL JUST CENSUS.
AND THESE ASTERISKS THEY RELATE TO THESE ITEMS HERE NO.
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THAT CAME FROM? THE CITY. I'M SORRY.I DON'T KNOW. I GOT IT FROM CITY.
BUT NOT FROM THAT. I MEAN, I GOT IT FROM A PERSON.
OKAY. AND THEY TOOK OUT THE TWO METER HOUSES.
SO THAT WAS AN ACCURATE NUMBER AS OF THAT DATE.
NOW, DO YOU WANT TO INCREASE TO WHAT IT IS TODAY VERSUS WHAT IT WAS A YEAR AGO? CENTER.
> > SO I C AN. I I S FOR MAINLY FOR THE REFERENCE TO THE SOURCE.
I THINK THAT THE SOURCE OF THE DATA IS DOCUMENTED IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE USED FOR OUR ACRES THE CITY THE CITY A SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO CALLS CITY? IT THE WATER METERS AND THEN THEY DEDUCTED THE HOMES THAT HAVE WATER METERS.
QUESTION IS THERE I KNOW THE FACT COM RIGHT WHEN YOU SUBMIT TO COLLIN COUNTY EVERY YEAR, THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF DOCUMENTS OF THE NUMBER OF HOMES BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING MONEY.
SO COULD YOU SAY SOMETHING TO THE BACK JUST PING OUT DECISION.
AS BEFORE YOU COM DOWN TO PARKER RESIDENT HOMES OR POWER TO DOCUMENT THAT NUMBER HAS TO BE A SOLID NUMBER, YOU GET A 1.5 AWAY THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT'S THE CERTI REPORT.
DIFFERENT I WOULD SAY THAT FIT TOGETHER BETTER THAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN C THE WORLD DO IT SO THAT EVERY TIME YOU ALL DATE IT NUMBER.
SO THE REASON THIS UMBER WAS A RECIPE BECAUSE IT ALSO CORRELATED WITH THE WATER IMPACT STUDY, WHICH I WAS TOLD WAS THE DRIVER BECAUSE OF THE GATHER ESPECIALLY AT THE TIME OF WATER NO.
I THINK IT HAD TO WATER WATER.
WELL FIRST OF, WHO'S GOING TO DO RESEARCH ON WHERE THIS SOURCE IS COMING FROM? WHOSE JOB IS THAT GOING TO BE? I THINK IT.
SO BASICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THIS WITH 2025 DATA AND THE SOURCE OF THAT DATA IS TO BE SAY THAT THAN THE QUESTION.
WHETHER IT'S PLUS D WE ALL KNOW HOW TO POPULATION KNOW HOW.
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THE POPULATION PROBLEM IS WITH ALL THE NUMBER OF.CRITICAL FACT THE WATER IMPACT VERY IMPORTANT WATER IMPACT WHERE THE WATER IS.
YEAH. I WOULD THAT'S WHAT IN HERE.
I WOULD PROBABLY STICK WITH THAT BUT TO CLARIFY IS WATER IMPACT.
I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT IT DOESN'T READ THE COMMON T, BUT YES MAYBE PROVIDE A LITTLE FURTHER DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE WATER IS, WHAT THE COMBERS ARE.
THE SENTENCE UNDER IT REFERS TO THE WATER IMPACT. OKAY.
BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THE POPULATION IS STRICTLY TAKING.
I. OKAY. SO DO YOU WANT TO ADJUST THE NUMBER OF HOMES AND WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS 2025? YES. I'VE ALREADY WATT THAT.
IT SAYS IF THE NOTE THAT I'VE GOT ON HERE IS A PAAR 2025 HOME DATA, AND THE SOURCE OF DATA, WATER METER DATA, LESS TWO METER HOMES OR WHATEVER.
PERHAPS USE THE NUMBERS OF FED COLUMN WHATEVER POPULATION.
POPULATION WAS DETERMINED BY 2020 CENSUS OF HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE IN EACH HOUSEHOLD OR NOT IN EACH HOUSEHOLD, BUT AVERAGE NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF HOUSEHOLD IS TWO POINT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE SAY IS DECEMBER 2023, THAT'S NOT P.
SO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE CENSUS DATA? AVERAGE IS GOING TO BE IS GOING TO BE SOMEBODY DOING A LITTLE BIT OF.
AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SIZE IS 2.79.
SO IF YOU TAKE THE NUMBER OF CALLS TIMES 2.79 POPULATION.
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1085, 185. IT'S FROM BARRY B YEARS AGO, I THINK. THERE HAVE BEEN.THERE HAS BEEN YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S RIGHT. THAT WAS FOUR, FLY THAT DATA I KNOW YOU LOOKED AT THE MINUTES FOR WHAT WE MAY HE FIVE THAT I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY ANGER WAS.
THAT'S ALL. I. THAT WAS AFTER WE SAID NO, IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS LEFT OUT AND THE CROSS PHASE THREE AND FOUR, CORRECT.
BECAUSE THEY WERE STILL UNDER THE DEVELOPER, THEY WERE FIX CORRECT. HOUSE STU DESCRIBE THAT'S WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
WELL YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY YEAH, APPROXIMATELY I YOU PICK 1081 TO CRACK NUMBER 2024 THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU DRAW IT PUT A LITTLE I WAS BEFORE THE 21.
11 SEVEN ASSOCIATED WITH SONGS GENERAL THAT'S CLASS
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I GUESS STATE LEGISLATION OF THE RESOLUTION ORDINANCE OF WHAT IS REQUIRED THAT BE COVERED BY THE RESOLUTION.THAT'S ON THE NEXT PAGE BECAUSE EVEN LIKE RIGHT HERE, WE'RE MAKING DECISION THAT ABILI I WANT TO SEE IF THAT'S TRUE.
THERE'S SO MANY DOCUMENTS THAT YOU TEST THAT STATEMENT. I WON MAKE SURE THEY HAVE? WHEN WHEN COUNSEL PASSES THE CLASS, THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE TO MAKE SURE I JUST LOOK LIKE I JUST LOOK THE ONE THAT AS THE RANGE PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT ALL AREAS OF HAVE A RANGE PROBLEM THAT WE JUST YOU HAVE DRAINAGE.
IT SAYS ALL AREAS OF THE PROGRAMS HAD MANY AREAS MANY AREAS. MARKETING.
>> IS THE SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY AREAS, YOU KNOW. SUCH AS THE B.
WELL, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH OPEN DISHES RATHER THAN RATHER THAN SEWERS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS AND THAT'S WHAT REFER TO IS THAT THE OPEN DISHES.
THEN YOU WILL PLACE A FAIR DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH.
AND THEN WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS THAT YOU'RE EFFECTIVE FREE VOLUME QUITE A BIT.
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YOU HAVE ARE YOU HAD A TREE COME DOWN, THERE'S A BUNCH OF B IN MY HOUSE BACK TO WHERE HE IS THERE HAS TREES UP DOWN WITH ALL TREES FOR EACH.I I HISTORICAL VER A SURVEY QUESTION THAT WAS ANSWERED BY RESIDENT.
SO THAT SURVEY QUESTION INCLUDED JOB REALLY MAKE SENSE S I DON'T KNOW THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT TIME TRUE.
THE S KNOW THAT IS A HO COLOR COLOR YOU WERE ALSO THE.
YEAH. SO I MEAN THAT JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOUSE MY HOUSES FOR MY PROPERTIES THAT RIG IS NOT ON THE PROPERTY.
AND SO MY HUSBAND WANTED TO GO OUT THE DAY IS A LONG TIME AGO.
WE WAS SO THAT THE RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCE.
THEY RESPONSIBILITY EVERYBODY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
MY IN QUESTION OF GIVES EVERYBODY A DESCRIPTION THAT IS A STATEMENT THAT WOULD REQUIRE ALL IF I THINK PRACTICALLY IF YOU DON'T GO PLAY RIGHT? SO YOU MAY KNOW SPARES NO REASON.
SO INSTEAD CONSIDER SAYING IT HOME OWNER.
I IS PROPER CONSIDERING AD PROPERTY PROPERTY, THE HOME OWNERS BELIEVE SAY THAT TO SAY THAT PROPERTY.
ON MY PROPERTY ALL MY PROPERTY SO IT IS RIGHT.
RIGHT. BUT I JUST SAYING THAT INSTEAD OF SAYING I LIKE THE STA THAT THAT'S TRUE FOR EVERY PROPERTY AND YOU JUST SAY THAT IT'S ERA AND THE SECOND COURT IS BASED ON SO I HAVE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHOLE PARAGRAPH.
YOU KNOW, IT'S CONCERNING BEING IN A. YEAH. IT IS VERY NEGATIVE.
I MEAN, IT HAS SOME BASIS FOR THAT.
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BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ELEMENT.MAYBE A BETTER APPROACH IS TO TALK ABOUT DURING THAT RAGE.
YEAH. BECAUSE OF OUR OPEN DRAINAGE ENVIRONMENTAL RESIDENTS MUST BE ATTENTIVE.
YEAH ATTENTIVE TO THEIR PROCEDURES IN APPROACH THE RUN OFFICER.
50. THE TERMS TO THEIR DRAINAGE SITUATION ON THE PROPERTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO THE RIGHT? SO MAYBE SINGLES BUT YEAH. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH. AGE OPEN DRAINAGE CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE IN PARKER IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.
THAT'S PART OF OUR DIFFERENT WHEN YOU GO.
YEAH. DRAINAGE I WE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW VERSUS. EVERYWHERE ELSE ST I THINK MAYBE JUST WHAT'S MISSING HERE IS NEEDS TO BE PURCH TO THEIR OWN PROPERTY CORRECT.
ANYTHING THAT'S NOT THEIR PROPERTY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
BUT THEY DO HAVE TO OR THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN THE W. AND I THINK THAT.
YEAH, I THINK SO, TOO. I KNOW I CAN GET THAT 66 YEAH.
YEAH. ARE WE RIGHT HERE? ARE WE GOING THROUGH HERE? WE STOP HERE. TIME. MARY HAD.
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THERE'S A PARAGRAPH ABOVE THAT.I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOWEVER HOMES.
WE TALKED ABOUT HOME AT OF NEW HOMES NEWER HOMES FOR DATA WAY.
BUT THEN HOMES THAT ARE NOT IN DATA WAY.
THEY REQUIRE MONITORING WE'RE TRYING TO EXTEND AND I REALLY THINK THAT EVERYBODY EVERYBODY'S HOMES SHOULD BE MONITORED BY CITY STAFF IF THERE'S CODE FORT.
HOAS WILL HOPEFULLY TELL YOU TO LIMIT SOME OF THAT.
BUT ALL HOMES HAVE I'M I'M GOING THAT IS NOT C IS NO A AREA.
I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO FOR THE POLE.
I MEAN IT WILL BE TAKEN THAT'S WHY I DO MY.
THIS IS A MAP THAT CAME FROM I DON'T COUNTY LOOK AT THAT GO WITH THAT? APP.
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NOT CALLING THE COUNTY AGAIN.[LAUGHTER] LIKE, IT'S YOU AGAIN.
>> [BACKGROUND] I HEREBY CALL THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER.
IT IS 632 ON FEBRUARY 4, 2025.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BE RECESSING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE TO
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0711, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY CONCERNING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION.GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0 712, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER, OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION, EXCUSE ME, THAT SHOULD BE 551.074 PERSONNEL, TO DELIBERATE THE EVALUATION AND APPOINTMENT OF CANDIDATES FOR THE VACANCY CREATED BY THE PENDING RESIGNATION OF ONE MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL.
AT THIS TIME, WE ARE IN RECESS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I HEREBY RECONVENE THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF PARKER.
[RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING. ]
IT IS 7:24 PM.I APOLOGIZE FOR OUR BEING LATE.
BUT I WILL ASK, COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY ACTION OR DELIBERATION FROM THE EXECUTIVE MEETING THAT WE JUST HAD?
>> THEN AT THIS TIME, WE WILL DO THE PLEDGES.
FRANK, WILL YOU LEAD US IN THE AMERICAN PLEDGE.
MICHAEL, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE.
NOW WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND I DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS HERE. TERRY LYNCH.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
>> TERRY LYNCH, 5809 MIDDLETON DRIVE, THAT'S IN KING'S CROSSING SUBDIVISION.
I'M HERE TODAY TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF FOR TAKING SOME ACTIONS TO ALLEVIATE, EVEN IF TEMPORARILY, SOME OF THE MINE FIELD THAT WE HAD ON LEWIS LANE.
WHILE IT'S NOT FIXED, IT IS AT LEAST A PASSABLE ROAD AT THIS POINT, AND IT REALLY IS APPRECIATED BY MYSELF AND I HAVE HEARD OTHER COMMENTS FROM OTHER RESIDENTS.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THERE'S ONE SECTION THAT DOES REMAIN ON THAT SOUTHERN PORTION, AND I THINK Y'ALL KNOW WHAT PART THAT IS, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN SEE SOMETHING THERE TO FIX THAT OR TO GIVE US A TEMPORARY RELIEF THERE BECAUSE IT IS UNPASSABLE AS WELL.
ALSO, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THESE ARE TEMPORARY FIXES, AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL TO COMPLETE GETTING A CONTRACT, NEGOTIATING WITH THE CITY OF LUCAS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE EFFORTS TO ACTUALLY FIX THE ROAD. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MS. LYNCH. SHARISA.
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>> HI, EVERYONE. THIS IS, I THINK FOURTH OR FIFTH TIME I'M HERE SINCE LAST YEAR.
SIMPLE REQUEST IS THE FAILED CULVERT THAT WE HAVE AT THE BACK.
OUR HOME IS IN KING'S CROSSING, PHASE 3 4405 DOVER DRIVE.
THERE'S A CULVERT AT THE BACK OF OUR HOME AND THE WATER FROM THE FIELDS.
DID EVERYBODY GET TO SEE HER PICTURES?
>> WE HAVE ONE SET OF PICTURES OR FIVE?
>> WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS START THEM OVER HERE AND THEN I'LL MOVE THEM OVER THERE. GO AHEAD, SHARISA. THANK YOU.
>> IT'S A SIMPLE FIX, AND I JUST WISH I COULD HAVE A MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER AT LEAST.
THREE OF OUR HOMES ARE GETTING FLOODED EVERY TIME IT RAINS AND IT DID GET FLOODED EVEN LAST WEEK WHEN IT RAINED.
IT'S NOT THE RAINWATER, IT'S THE CULVERT WATER THAT'S PUSHING INTO OUR HOUSE DIRECTLY AND HUGE AMOUNTS OF WATER.
I'M NOT JUST SAYING IT'S LITTLE WATER.
IT'S LITERALLY FLOODING EVEN THE DOVER DRIVE, AND EVEN LAST WEEK RAINS ALSO DID FLOOD.
I CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T BELONG TO OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY.
BUT I REALLY WISH SOMETHING COULD BE DONE BECAUSE IT'S CAUSING SO MUCH ANXIOUSNESS.
SOMETIMES MY HUSBAND TRAVELS AND LAST RAINS, I WAS ALL BY MYSELF.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE CAMERAS AND GETTING VERY, VERY SCARED, NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO.
IT WOULD BE A GREAT RELIEF IF THIS CAN BE ADDRESSED A LITTLE AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE THERE.
ME AND MY NEIGHBOR ARE ALSO WILLING TO, IF AT ALL, IT'S DO OUR PART IN HELPING TO GET IT FIXED IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY WE CAN.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING. I'M VERY HAPPY IN THE COMMUNITY, WITH MY NEIGHBORS, WITH THE HOUSE.
IT'S JUST THAT THAT'S CAUSING SO MUCH OF AN ISSUE AND EVERY RAIN, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO OUTLET FOR THE WATER TO GO WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO.
IT'S ONLY FINDING ITS WAY INTO OUR YARD AND THREE OF OUR HOMES ARE GETTING AFFECTED, NOT JUST ONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO. THEN I WILL TALK ABOUT SOME ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
THE NOISE COMMITTEE IS SCHEDULED TO MEET FEBRUARY 5TH AT 2:00 PM IN THIS ROOM, IS THAT CORRECT?>> PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION IS SCHEDULED TO MEET FEBRUARY 12TH IN THIS ROOM AT 5:00 PM.
THE CITY FILING DEADLINE TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL IS FEBRUARY 14TH AT 5:00 PM.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR COUNCIL, PLEASE PICK UP A PACKET FROM PATTY BETWEEN NOW AND 4:30 ON FEBRUARY 14TH BECAUSE YOU'LL NEED A FEW MINUTES TO FILL IT OUT.
THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE, AND I ENCOURAGE ANYBODY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE NEW TO THE CITY OF PARKER, AND YOUR VOTERS REGISTRATION MAY STILL BE IN DALLAS OR WHEREVER YOU CAME FROM, PLEASE REGISTER TO VOTE BY APRIL 3RD, 2025.
THE GENERAL ELECTION WILL BE HELD ON MAY 3RD, 2025.
EARLY VOTING STARTS APRIL 22ND, WHICH IS A TUESDAY BECAUSE MONDAY IS A STATE HOLIDAY ON THAT DAY, THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] DAY.
NEXT, WE WILL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THERE ARE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.ONE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR JANUARY 21ST, 2025.
SECOND ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR JANUARY 23RD, 2025.
DOES ANYONE NEED EITHER ITEM PULLED OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION.
>> MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
>> I WOULD SECOND THAT MADAM MAYOR.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO AND A SECOND BY
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COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM TO ACCEPT THE MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. NEXT,
[5. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. 889 CALLING FOR AN ELECTION TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 3, 2025 TO ELECT THREE (3) CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AT-LARGE; PROVIDING FOR EARLY VOTING; AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A JOINT GENERAL AND SPECIAL ELECTION SERVICES CONTRACT FOR ELECTION SERVICES WITH COLLIN COUNTY; PROVIDING FOR THE ORDER AND NOTICE OF THE ELECTION; FINDING AND DETERMINING THAT THE MEETING AT WHICH THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED WAS NOTICED AND IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS REQUIRED BY LAW.]
WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 5, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 889, CALLING FOR AN ELECTION TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 3RD, 2025, TO ELECT THREE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AT LARGE, PROVIDING FOR EARLY VOTING, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A JOINT GENERAL AND SPECIAL ELECTION SERVICES CONTRACT FOR ELECTION SERVICES WITH COLLIN COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR THE ORDER AND NOTICE OF ELECTION, FINDING AND DETERMINING THAT THIS MEETING AT WHICH THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED WAS NOTICED AND IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS REQUIRED BY LAW.I BELIEVE, HOPEFULLY, IN YOUR PACKET, THERE WAS A CONTRACT OR A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE IN THE CONTRACT WITH COLLIN COUNTY.
THE AMOUNT FOR THE ELECTION IS ROUGHLY $3,500, I BELIEVE. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
>> I WAS JUST WONDERING AT ONE POINT, MAYBE I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE CONSIDERED THE FACT THAT RANDY IS GOING TO BE MOVING OUT OF THE CITY, AND HIS SEAT IS GOING TO BE OPEN BY MAY. IS THAT STILL THE CASE?
>> I SAID THAT IT WAS PROBABLY LIKELY.
IT'S NOT ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED.
>> I THOUGHT YOU TOLD US THAT WAS DEFINITELY GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? CAN YOU GIVE US ANY INSIGHT AS TO WHAT MIGHT CAUSE IT NOT TO HAPPEN?
>> THAT I DON'T SELL MY HOUSE.
>> THAT'S NOT THE AGENDA ITEM.
>> YEAH. THAT'S NOT THE AGENDA ITEM.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ORDINANCE 889, CALLING FOR A REGULAR ELECTION.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THAT?
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 889, CALLING FOR AN ELECTION TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 3RD, TO ELECT THREE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AT LARGE, PROVIDING FOR EARLY VOTING, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A JOINT GENERAL AND SPECIAL ELECTION SERVICES CONTRACT FOR ELECTION SERVICES WITH COLLIN COUNTY PROVIDING FOR THE ORDER AND NOTICE OF THE ELECTION, FINDING AND DETERMINING THAT THE MEETING AT WHICH THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED WAS NOTICED AND IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS REQUIRED BY LAW.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOE AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM REED TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 889.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PASSING ORDINANCE NUMBER 889, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
[6. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2025-829 AUTHORIZING CONTINUED PARTICIPATION WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF CITIES SERVED BY ONCOR; AND AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF ELEVEN CENTS PER CAPITA TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO FUND REGULATORY AND LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AND ACTIVITIES RELATED TO ONCOR ELECTRIC DELIVERY COMPANY, LLC.]
CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-829, AUTHORIZING CONTINUED PARTICIPATION WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF THE CITY'S SERVICE BY ONCOR AND AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF 11 CENTS PER CAPITA TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO FUND REGULATORY AND LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AND ACTIVITIES RELATED TO ONCOR ELECTRIC DELIVERY SERVICE, LLC.AS I'M SURE SOME OF YOU ARE AWARE, WE DO PARTICIPATE WITH THIS GROUP, WHICH GENERALLY, WE OPPOSE ANYTIME ONCOR TRIES TO RAISE THE RIGHTS OR DOES SOMETHING, SINCE IT AFFECTS ONE CITY, IT AFFECTS MOST OF US.
SINCE WE'RE ALL NOT THE BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD, WE BAND TOGETHER TO TRY TO ATTACK THIS IN THAT MANNER, AND IT COST US 11 CENTS PER CAPITA, OR 11 CENTS A PERSON.
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ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-829, AUTHORIZING CONTINUED PARTICIPATION WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF CITIES SERVED BY ONCOR IN AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF 11 CENTS PER CAPITA TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO FUND REGULATORY AND LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AND ACTIVITIES RELATED TO ONCOR ELECTRIC DELIVERY COMPANY, LLC.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FECHT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-829 TO CONTINUE PARTICIPATION WITH THE ONCOR STEERING COMMITTEE.
AT THIS TIME, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 7, DISCUSSION,
[7. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION 2025-830 AUTHORIZING THE USE OF CITY RESOURCES TO REPAIR PORTIONS OF LEWIS LANE BETWEEN PARKER ROAD AND THE LEWIS LANE LIFT STATION.]
CONSIDERATION, AND ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-830, AUTHORIZING THE USE OF CITY RESOURCES TO REPAIR PORTIONS OF LEWIS LANE BETWEEN PARKER ROAD AND THE LEWIS LANE LIFT STATION.>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER 7, RESOLUTION 2025-830 AUTHORIZING THE USE OF CITY RESOURCES TO REPAIR PORTIONS OF LEWIS LANE BETWEEN PARKER ROAD AND THE LEWIS LANE LIFT STATION.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD SECOND THAT.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION NEEDED BEFORE WE CAN DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOE, AND IS SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM REED TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL MORE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION?
>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CITIZENS KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD BEHIND THE SCENES AND TRYING TO MOVE THIS AT MARK 2, EVEN THOUGH IT PROBABLY DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
KATHERINE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, AND SHE'S ON TOP OF IT, AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE GOOD ANSWERS SOON.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING ITEM NUMBER 7 AS TO LEWIS LANE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
[8. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2025-831 APPROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PARKER AND BUCKINGHAM LOT VENTURE, LTD., PROVIDING FOR ANNEXATION OF, AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR, APPROXIMATELY 46.69 ACRES OF LAND IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICITON OF THE CITY OF PARKER (BUCKINGHAM ESTATES).]
CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-831, APPROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PARKER AND BUCKINGHAM LOT VENTURES, LTD, PROVIDING FOR ANNEXATION OF AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 46.69 ACRES OF LAND IN THE EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER.WILL YOU COME UP AND DO A LITTLE INTRODUCTION FOR US?
>> GARY, CAN YOU PUT THE SCREEN UP?
>> YOU'RE IT GUY TOO? [LAUGHTER]
>> PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS WHEN YOU GO TO SPEAK.
>> I'M JOHN ARNOLD WITH SKORBURG COMPANY, 8214 WESTCHESTER STREET, SUITE 900, DALLAS, TEXAS 75225. DO Y'ALL NOT HAVE A COMPUTER?
>> [BACKGROUND] HERE'S ONE. THANK YOU, [INAUDIBLE].
>> I COULD STAND HERE WITH A LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER AND SHOW Y'ALL REAL QUICK.
>> HERE, I HAVE A THUMB DRIVE. YES, SIR.
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>> [BACKGROUND] YOU KNOW IT'S SERIOUS WHEN IT TAKES THIS MANY PEOPLE TO GET THIS.
>> [BACKGROUND] I'M SORRY, EVERYBODY.
[BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] I'LL START TALKING IF WE CAN GET IT UP.
>> I'M JOHN ARNOLD. I'M WITH SKORBURG COMPANY.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT WE'RE CALLING BUCKINGHAM ESTATES.
IT'S A MCCREARY FARM ON MCCREARY ROAD IN PARKER.
WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN PARKER FOR A WHILE.
WE'RE LOCALLY OWNED PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY HERE IN DALLAS.
WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING LOTS FOR 40 YEARS.
COMPANY STARTED IN NORTH DALLAS, BUT REALLY ACTUALLY PICKED UP IN THIS AREA BETWEEN 2000-2010.
PARKER, LUCAS FAIRVIEW, WHERE WE REALLY STARTED CAME FROM.
PLANO UP TO PARKER LUCAS AND FAIRVIEW IN 2000-2008.
OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS, WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER 120 PROJECTS IN DFW.
ALL OF OUR PROJECTS ARE IN THE DFW METROPLEX.
WE'VE DONE BUSINESS IN 33 DIFFERENT CITIES.
WE HAVE OVER 25 PROJECTS EITHER IN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW OR SELL OUT OR COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION AND SELL OUT.
WE HAVE A REPUTATION FOR BUILDING HIGH QUALITY LONG LASTING COMMUNITIES.
I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH A COUPLE OF THOSE.
WE DO PROJECTS ANYWHERE FROM TOWNHOUSES TO ONE ACRE LOTS.
YOU'LL SEE SOME TWO ACRE LOTS DEALS THAT WE'VE DONE HERE, SO WE DO 800 ACRE MASTER PLANS DOWN TO INFILL PROJECTS.
IN THIS AREA, WE'VE DONE SOME TOWNHOUSE PROJECTS OVER IN ALLEN, DOWN IN RICHARDSON, PLANO.
WE HAVE MASTER PLANS IN ANNA ROCKWALL, LOTHIAN.
WE'RE IN THE LAKE CITIES QUITE A BIT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE ALL OVER DFW AND DO ALL TYPES OF PROJECTS, AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF OUR MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES AND MANY FEATURES.
THESE ARE PICTURES FROM OUR ROCKWALL PROJECTS.
PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE AREA.
JUST QUICKLY, IN PARKER, WE DEVELOPED PARKER LAKES ESTATES, CYPRESS CROSSING, FAIRVIEW MEADOWS, THOMPSON SPRINGS, STACY RIDGE, BETHANY.
YOU CAN JUST SEE FROM THE MAP, THERE'S ABOUT 13 PROJECTS WE'VE DONE.
BUT WE'VE BEEN GONE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
WE'RE LOOKING TO COME BACK TO THIS.
A LOT OF SHIFT WITH OUR PRODUCT HAS BEEN TO SOME LARGER LOTS DEALS, ONE ACRE DEALS.
WE HAVE OUR OWN HOME BUILDER, WINDSOR HOMES LIKE SOME OF THE LARGER LOT DEVELOPMENTS.
PARKER LAKES ESTATES IS 282 ACRES, 1-2 ACRE LOTS.
WE CLOSED THAT IN 2001. OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL KNOW IT'S BUILT OUT BY NOW.
THOMPSON SPRINGS AND FAIRVIEW, IT'S ABOUT 106 ONE ACRE LOTS.
THESE ARE PICTURES OF HOMES THAT ARE IN THERE AND THE ENTRY FEATURES MUCH LIKE WHAT WE'LL BE DOING ON OUR NEXT PROJECT WE HOPE TO DO IN PARKER.
SADDLEBROOK ESTATES IN LUCAS, AMHERST ESTATES.
THIS IS ONE OF OUR NEWER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE IN SUNNYVALE, WE'RE IN STONEY CREEK.
WE JUST FINISHED THIS CONSTRUCTION IN 2023,
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AND WE'RE BUILDING HOMES THERE WITH DREES AND WINDSOR AND KINDRED HOMES.WE'RE IN MCLEAN CHISHOLM, DOING SOME LARGER LOT DEALS OUT IN MCLENDON IN CHISHOLM WITH TOLL AND OUR HOMEBUILDER WINDSOR HOMES.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING LATELY, AND WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IN THE AREA.
WE'RE LOOKING TO GET BACK IN THERE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS MCCREARY FARM, IT'S IN MCCREARY ROAD IN PARKER.
YES, SIR. IT'S GOOD AT PICTURES.
>> THAT INCLUDES THAT FARM HOUSE IN MCCREARY ROAD?
OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS TO DO 39 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, ALL ONE ACRE AND ABOVE MINIMUM HOME SITES, 3,000 SQUARE FOOT.
WE EXPECT THESE TO BE 3,200 SQUARE FEET IN THE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT HOMES, STARTING AROUND 1.2.
WE'LL HAVE AN HOA. WE TALKED TO GARY ABOUT HOA MAINTAINING ALL COMMON AREA DRAINAGE.
PRIVATE, WE'LL HAVE IN OUR CCRS AND OUR DEVELOPER AGREEMENT THAT ANY PRIVATE DRAINAGE ON LOTS WILL BE HANDLED BY THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER.
WE'LL HAVE LANDSCAPING FENCING.
WE'LL COME IN FOR ZONING AND SHOW YOU ALL THE AMENITIES AND LANDSCAPING, ALL OF THAT.
OUR PARTNERS, WE PLAN ON THIS WILL BE DREES HOMES AND HIGHLAND HOMES, PROJECTED TO BE 3,200 TO 5,100 SQUARE FOOT, STARTING AT ABOUT $1.2 MILLION.
THEN I JUST HAVE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE PRODUCT THAT THEY'VE DONE.
WE'VE AGREED WITH GARY, WE AT ONE POINT, WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOME SWING GARAGES, PORCHES, BUT ALL THESE NO FRONT ENTRY GARAGES.
THESE ARE ALL JUST PRODUCT THAT THESE BUILDERS WILL BE DOING IN THIS SUBDIVISION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, WHO WE ARE OR ANYTHING?
>> COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. KERCHO.
>> I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
I KNOW FOR THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE, WE HAD EARLIER PRELIMINARY MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO ABOUT IT.
FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I KNOW THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT DRAINAGE IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG ISSUE WITHIN THE CITY, AND THAT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DRAINAGE ANALYSIS, ETC, AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, IF YOU NEEDED SOME TYPE OF ADDITIONAL LAND TO ADDRESS THAT, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET IT AND THE QUESTION WAS COMING FROM THE ADJACENT FARM, AND YOU SAID WE'D HAVE TO BASICALLY GET SOME AGREEMENT IF WE COULD GET EXTRA ACRES OR NOT.
>> WE'VE LOOKED AT IT A LITTLE CLOSER, WE'VE CHANGED OUR LAND PLAN A LITTLE BIT.
IF THERE'S ANY NEED FOR DRAINAGE, IF YOU CAN SEE THE CURSOR UP HERE, THESE LOTS ARE EXTREMELY DEEP, AND SO ABOUT RIGHT HERE, IF YOU CUT THESE DIRECTLY OFF RIGHT HERE, THOSE ARE STILL JUST OVER ONE ACRE.
WE HAVE ROOM BETWEEN THE CREEK THAT ACTUALLY RUNS UP HERE.
HERE, IF THERE'S ANY DETENTION THAT'S NEEDED IN THIS AREA OR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE CREEK, WE CAN DO DETENTION UP HERE AND THESE LOTS WILL STILL REMAIN ONE ACRE.
WE'VE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBOR HERE, THIS IS ONE OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS WORKING WITH THEM FOR ANY DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.
THOSE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS COST QUITE A BIT, SO WE PLAN ON STARTING THAT PROBABLY TOMORROW MORNING IF THIS IS APPROVED.
WE'LL BE BACK IN WITH PLATT AND GO THROUGH ENGINEERING.
>> I USED TO DIVE ON IN THERE.
>> WOULD YOU BE FEEDING WATER INTO THAT CREEK OR HOW WOULD YOU USE THE CREEK OR IS THE CREEK A NON ISSUE?
>> THE WATER IS GOING TO GO TOWARDS THE CREEK.
BUT IF THERE'S ANY INCREASES OR ANYTHING THAT, WE'LL PUT A DETENTION POND UP THERE, THEY'LL LET THE WATER INTO THE CREEK.
AS FAR AS ONE ACRE LOTS, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE EASIEST PROJECTS TO DEAL WITH THE FLOW COMING OFF BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A PROJECT WITH 50 FOOT LOTS, THERE'S A LOT OF SURFACE AREA BEING TAKEN AWAY, AND SO THOSE PONDS TEND TO BE A LOT BIGGER WITH OPEN SWELL.
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ONLY 39 LOTS, WE DON'T SEE A MASSIVE INCREASE INTO THAT CREEK, BUT WE'LL START A STUDY NEXT WEEK TO DETERMINE WHAT THE EFFECTS ARE ON THAT CREEK BECAUSE MOST OF OUR WATER FLOWS NORTH INTO THAT CREEK.>> BECAUSE THAT WATER IS FLATTER THAN A PANCAKE IN THE STATE OF KANSAS BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO IT, AND IT'S [OVERLAPPING] A NIGHTMARE.
>> ANY IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED THROUGH THERE, WE'LL MAKE.
WE'VE TALKED TO THE LAND OWNER TO PLEASE START CLEANING IT UP, MAKING SURE IT FLOWS.
>> CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR TIMELINE ON THIS? ONE, WHAT'S DRIVEN THE TIMELINE UP TO THIS? BECAUSE THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW ITEM FOR US ON COUNCIL TO BE CONSIDERING IN A PRETTY SHORT TIME FRAME.
WHAT DROVE YOUR TIME FRAME TO GET YOU HERE TODAY AND WHAT'S YOUR TIME FRAME AFTER THIS?
>> OUR TIME FRAME IS WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE CITY ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
ON THE PROJECT, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS HOLDING A LOT OF THIS UP WAS THE MORATORIUM ON DEVELOPMENT AND WATER, AND THEN OUR TIMING WITH THE LAND OWNERS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON THIS PROJECT FOR ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS.
WE ARE DOWN TO, HERE WE ARE, GET MCCREARY AND HIS STAFF, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS, IRONING OUT THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
IT JUST THE MORATORIUM JUST IN AND IT CAME TO OUR HEAD.
WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS PROJECT AND MOVE FORWARD.
>> WHEN WOULD YOU CLOSE ON THE LAND?
>> WE'LL CLOSE ON THE LAND LIKELY AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
AT THE END OF FEBRUARY, WE'LL CLOSE ON THIS LAND.
WE HAVE SOME MILESTONES TO HIT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WITH THE LAND OWNER, BUT WE ARE SCHEDULED TO CLOSE AT THE VERY END OF THIS MONTH, AND I'D LIKELY START CONSTRUCTION LATE SUMMER.
BE COMPLETED WITH CONSTRUCTION HOPEFULLY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR OR MAYBE SECOND QUARTER.
>> MADAM MAYOR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION WHY NONE OF THIS MATERIAL WAS INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET TODAY?
>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION WHY NONE OF THIS MATERIAL WAS INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET FOR US OR THE RESIDENTS TO SEE IN ADVANCE.
>> MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHY NONE OF THIS MATERIAL WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET FOR COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC TO SEE IN ADVANCE OF OUR MEETING TODAY.
>> ACTUALLY, EXCUSE ME. THAT TIME LINES OFF.
THAT'S IF EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED.
I STILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND FINISH ZONING, PLATTING AND ALL OF THAT.
HOPEFULLY, STILL START CONSTRUCTION THIS YEAR.
>> REGARDLESS, I'M ASSUMING YOU DIDN'T PUT THIS TOGETHER BETWEEN LIKE NINE O'CLOCK THIS MORNING AND NOW.
>> WHEN DID YOU GET THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO THE CITY?
>> I BELIEVE FIRST OF THIS YEAR.
PROBABLY RIGHT AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, FIRST OF THIS YEAR.
MAYBE THE SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY.
WE GOT THE FIRST VERSION TO STAFF, I THINK AT THE END OF DECEMBER AND WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THE DRAFT.
>> WE COMPLETED THE FINAL PROBABLY YESTERDAY?
>> THAT JUST MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO DIGEST ALL THIS EQUIP, IN SUCH A SHORT TIME.
>> GO AHEAD, BUDDY I THINK YOU WERE STILL ASKING QUESTIONS.
>> MOST OF MINE, WE'RE ABOUT THE TIMING BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT.
I READ THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT YOU'RE SHARING A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT ON IT THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT WITH THE CITY SINCE DECEMBER, APPARENTLY WORKING ON THE CONCEPT, PRIOR TO THAT, WORKING ON THIS SINCE DECEMBER, AND THEN JUST FINALIZED IT.
YOU SAID YESTERDAY, WHICH IS PRETTY SHORT NOTICE FOR US TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT.
IT'S SHORTER THAN OUR NORMAL NOTICE THAT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO GIVE TO OUR CITIZENS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
I LIKE YOUR PLAN CONCEPTUALLY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH GARY AND PEOPLE IN THE CITY TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT'S WORKABLE FOR THE CITY.
>> YES. WE ARE. WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR, FAIRLY SIMPLE AGREEMENT WITH STANDARD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
STANDARD DEVELOPMENT, SORRY. THE ORDINANCES, THE 20 ACRE LOTS.
IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO IT.
>> THAT SAID, LET ME JUST ASK YOU A DIRECT QUESTION.
WHAT WOULD BE THE CONSEQUENCE TO YOU IF WE POSTPONED A VOTE ON THIS UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE GOT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SO LATE IN THE PROCESS.
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YOU JUST PROVIDED FINISHED IT YESTERDAY.SOME OF US READ IT, SOME OF US DID NOT GET TO READ IT BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING.
>> YOU'RE ASKING ME A QUESTION I REALLY CAN'T ANSWER RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE I HAVE A CLOSING DATE, BUT I ALSO HAVE OBLIGATIONS THAT I HAVE TO MEET FINANCIALLY BETWEEN NOW AND YOUR NEXT MEETING.
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION TODAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FROM THE LANDOWNER ON WHETHER THAT CAN CHANGE.
MAYBE NOT BE BACK HERE, BUT THERE'S A CHANCE I COULD BE BACK HERE.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LAND OWNER WILL HONOR YOUR CURRENT CONTRACT IF DON'T CLOSE.
>> NO, THEY'LL HONOR OUR CURRENT CONTRACT, BUT THERE'S FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS.
>> WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE BY WHEN?
>> BY THE MAYOR, I DON'T THINK THOSE TOPICS ARE RELEVANT TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM.
>> NOT AT THIS TIME. I'M SORRY.
>> YEAH, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO JUST JUMP RIGHT IN THERE SORRY.
AND AGAIN, CONCEPTUALLY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, TOO, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I MAY WANT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT IN GENERAL, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORTH WOULD MAKE SENSE AND FIT IN WHAT THE CITY'S GOING TO DO, BUT I GUESS WITH ALL THE PRE PLANNING, I'M SURPRISED THAT THIS IS LAST MINUTE LIKE IT HAS BEEN.
THAT IS ON YOU TO BE FRANK ABOUT IT.
THAT YOU ONLY HAD THE AGREEMENT TO US THAT TIME FRAME, AND THEN TRYING TO PUSH IT THROUGH WHEN NORMALLY, WE DO THIS EVEN OVER ITERATION SOMETIMES EVEN WHEN WE HAVE THE MATERIAL AHEAD OF TIME.
TO EXPECT US TO ACTUALLY GO AND APPROVE THIS WITH VERY LITTLE NOTICE IS PRETTY BOLD.
>> THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION WHEN WE SUBMITTED IT AT THE TIME WE SUBMITTED IT.
OUR INTENTION WAS TO HAVE THIS DONE FOR YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
I THINK YOU ALL HAD A LOT GOING ON AT THE CITY OVER THROUGH JANUARY AND MAY, AND IT WASN'T I THINK OUR TIMELINE WAS MADE CLEAR WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, BUT I THINK YOU ALL HAD A LOT GOING ON THROUGH JANUARY, DECEMBER AND NOVEMBER THAT TOOK OUR TIME AWAY AND WE WERE FORCED INTO POSITION TO ASK.
>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN WE HAD A LOT GOING ON DURING JANUARY THAT PREVENTED YOU FROM PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION EARLIER?
>> I THINK YOU ALL HAVE HAD A LOT OF ITEMS YOU'LL BEEN WORKING THROUGH AS A COUNSEL AND STAFF.
>> I THINK COUNSEL REFERRING TO THE WATER MORATORIUM.
>> THE WATER MORATORIUM IS THE MAIN THING, I THINK.
>> YEAH. WE WE DID TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THE BUILDING MORATORIUM LIFTED AS A RESULT OF NEGOTIATING THE NEW WATER CONTRACT.
>> JUST FROM YOUR LAST RESPONSE I'M NOT SURE AGAIN, AGAIN WITH COUNCILMAN PILGRIM HERE AS TO WHAT YOU MEAN.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT FROM PERSPECTIVE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ITSELF, THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU PROVIDED THE CITY, LAWYER OR WHATEVER, AND THEY HAVE CAUSED YOU DELAY IN GETTING SOMETHING TO US.
>> I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN TURNED IN AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE BACK AND FORTH, NOT TOO MANY COMMENTS.
I WAS HOPING TO HAVE THIS, MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT IT JUST TIME'S GOT BEHIND US.
I'LL TAKE THE BLAME, BUT IT'S ON BOTH SIDES.
>> RANDY, WERE YOU FINISHED? YOU SOUND LIKE A REALLY NICE GUY AND YOU GOT A GREAT JACKET ON AND STUFF.
IF YOU WERE SITTING IN RANDY'S CHAIR AND YOU GOT IT 12 HOURS BEFORE, DO YOU THINK THAT'S FAIR TO DO THAT TO A PERSON TO GET THEM TO VOTE AND TRY TO HELP YOU?
>> I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO GET THIS 12 HOURS BEFORE. I DIDN'T.
I WAS ASKING TO BE ON THIS AGENDA FOR WEEKS.
I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO GET IT TONIGHT.
>> HOW DID YOU WANT IT ON OUR AGENDA FOR WEEKS IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A FINALIZED VERSION UNTIL JUST HOURS AGO?
>> I WAS HOPING TO HAVE A FINALIZED VERSION MUCH BEFORE THE TIME THAT I GOT IT DONE.
>> WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE MILESTONES TO PASS AND BUILD HOUSES AND OWN COMPANIES AND STUFF,
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WHAT'S THE HANG UP ON THE MILESTONES WITH THE LANDOWNER?>> WE HAVE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.
I HAVE HARD DATES, I HAVE MONEY THAT I HAVE TO GIVE THEM AS FAR AS CERTAIN GOALS.
>> I HAVE FINANCING, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE FINANCING, WE'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT BEING TAKING THE RISK OF SOMETHING NOT BEING APPROVED AND PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY OUT.
YOU BUY A HOUSE, YOU PUT EARNEST MONEY UP, YOU GIVE IT AWAY BEFORE YOU CLOSE.
WE HAVE A FINANCIAL OBLIGATION THAT'S COMING UP BEFORE THAT 14TH.
IF I DON'T GET AN EXTENSION, YOU PROBABLY WON'T SEE ME.
IF I DO GET AN EXTENSION, YOU'LL SEE ME ON 18.
>> UNDERSTOOD. IS THERE A CURRENT CONTINGENT CONTRACT ON THIS LAND THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF?
>> NO. BUT I KNOW THAT IF WE DON'T, THE OWNERS PROBABLY HAVE OTHER IDEAS FOR IT.
JUST THE WATER MORATORIUM HAS BEEN LIFTED AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE MORE OPTIONS.
WE'RE COMING IN WITH, WE THINK IS A GREAT OPTION FOR THIS PROPERTY.
>> SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN INTERRUPT YOU.
WHO IS DOING THE FINANCING, IF I MAY ASK?
>> RIGHT NOW, WE'RE BUYING THE LAND AS A COMPANY. CASH,.
>> THEN WE'LL PUT IT IN DEVELOPMENT LOAN.
IF WE CAN GET THE FINANCING LINED UP, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE BANKS WE'RE WORKING WITH.
IF WE CAN GET A FINAL LINED UP IN 30 DAYS, WE WILL GET IT LINED UP IN 30 DAYS, BUT WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
WE WANT THE PROPERTY IF IT GETS APPROVED.
>> THANK YOU. KAREN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SIGN?
>> I'M SORRY, I'M LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION.
THEIR PROBLEM SHOULD NOT BE OUR PROBLEM, NUMBER 1.
SECOND OF ALL, THE PLAN IS FOR ONE ACRE LOTS, AND WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF TWO ACRE LOTS.
I THINK THE WHOLE CONCEPT NEEDS TO BE REWORKED AND THE GENTLEMAN NEEDS TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD SATISFY PARKER'S REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S IT. THANKS.
>> I'M LUCY ESTABROOK AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE HAD A DEVELOPER IN HERE, AND WE WERE VERY FIRM WITH THEM ABOUT TWO ACRE LOTS, AND I THINK THAT'S WOULD ONLY BE FAIR IF WE STUCK WITH THAT.
IT IS ONE OF OUR ORDINANCES. TWO ACRE LOTS.
EVERYBODY ON THE CITY COUNCIL, EVERYBODY FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS HAS RUN ON TWO ACRE LOTS. THANK YOU.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. DID YOU WANT TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT GO AHEAD.
I LIVE AT 6404 NORTHRIDGE PARKWAY IN SOUTH RIDGE ESTATES.
I WAS QUESTIONING WHETHER SINCE THIS PLOT WAS SUBMITTED, AND IT IS IN AN EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, IF THAT THE RULES WERE DIFFERENT, AND THEY COULD HAVE ONE ACRE LOTS.
IS THAT HOW IT GOT SUBMITTED IN ONE ACRE LOTS? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S IN AN EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
>> NOW THEY CAN SUBMIT QUARTER ACRE LOTS, THEY CAN SUBMIT WHATEVER THEY WANT.
THEN YOU AS COUNSEL HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE THAT AND THEN TAKE THEM IN TO PARKER.
>> I WAS SAYING IT'S CALLED ETJ.
IT IS DIFFERENT THAN LIVING HERE IN THE CITY OF PARKER.
>> I KNOW WHAT IT IS. BUT THAT TO ME, SOUNDS A LITTLE CHEATY TO HAVE A PLAT APPROVED WITH ONE ACRE LOTS AND THEN ASK TO BECOME PART OF CITY OF PARKER AND GET AWAY WITH IT.
>> THAT WAS JUST MY QUESTION. THANK YOU.
>> I THINK THERE WAS ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY.
>> I THINK HE HAD ADDITIONAL COMMENTS HE WAS GOING TO MAKE.
>> THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY,
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I HOPE TO BE BACK.OBVIOUSLY, THAT YOU ALL AREN'T PREPARED TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF YOU ARE PREPARED TO VOTE ON IT.
WE WOULD, LIKE TO PLAT THIS AND COME INTO THE CITY.
THAT'S OUR INTENTION. THAT'S BEEN OUR INTENTION SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATIONS EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES HAVE THE RIGHT BEFORE WE WERE HERE TO GO PLAT IT IN THE COUNTY.
YOU'RE RIGHT, THREE QUARTER ACRE LOTS OR WHATEVER THE MINIMUM COUNTY SEPTIC IS.
I KNOW THAT'S ONE ACRE OR MAYBE THREE QUARTER ACRES.
WE WERE TRYING TO COME INTO THE CITY AND PLAT IN THE CITY.
THE LANDOWNER MIGHT DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OR DO STORAGE ON IT OR DO WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.
WE WOULD LIKE TO COME INTO THE CITY.
WE WERE HOPING TO GET THIS DONE IN BETTER TIMING TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF YOU.
IF YOU'RE NOT READY TO VOTE ON IT OR YOU NEED TO VOTE NO TONIGHT, I HOPE TO BE BACK ON THE 18TH.
IF I'M NOT, THAT MEANS YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DEAL WITH THE LANDOWNER AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
>> YEAH, I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS ON THIS, BOTH FOR YOUR BENEFIT AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF ANY OF THE CITIZENS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE EITHER PRO OR CON THIS.
IF WE WERE TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT, I WOULD VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT.
I READ THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE REASON I WOULD VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT SO THAT THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE CITIZENS OUT THERE WOULD KNOW, I AGREE WITH TWO ACRE LOTS IN THE CITY.
I RAN ON TWO ACRE LOTS IN THE CITY AS WELL.
HOWEVER, THIS LAND ISN'T IN THE CITY LIMITS.
THIS LAND IS IN THE ETJ OF THE CITY OF PARKER, THE OWNER OF THIS LAND, ONE OF THE PARTIES WHO HAS SUBMITTED PAPERWORK TO THE CITY OF PARKER, WANTING TO EXIT THE ETJ.
ALONG WITH THE HUFFINES WHO SUBMITTED THEIR PAPERWORK TO EXIT THEIR 101 ACRES FROM THE ETJ.
WE'VE GOT OTHER ETJ LAND THAT'S AROUND THE CITY THAT WE EFFECTIVELY DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER.
THIS IS IN MY OPINION, A DEVELOPER WHO IS MUCH MORE WILLING TO WORK WITH US AS A CITY THAN THE HUFFINES WERE, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE THEY HAD THEIR 101 ACRES THAT WAS IN THE ETJ, AND THEY WANTED TO BUILD 608 OR 650 HOMES OR 666 HOMES OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO ARGUE ABOUT.
EVEN WHEN THEY NEGOTIATED DOWN TO A LOWER LEVEL, IT WAS STILL SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER DENSITY THAN ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
WHEN WE'VE GOT PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE TAKEN OUT OF THAT.
THAT'S IN DISPUTE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM IT UNILATERALLY.
SOME THINK THEY CAN, SOME THINK THEY CAN'T.
THAT'S IN A LAWSUIT THAT'S BEING HEADED UP BY OTHER CITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
GRAND PRAIRIE IS LEADING THAT, BUT WE'VE NOT JOINED.
WHAT'S THE TERM I'M LOOKING FOR KATHERINE.
>> EFFECTIVELY JOINED. THAT'S NOT THE LEGAL TERM I WAS LOOKING FOR, BUT ANYWAY, WE JOINED THAT SUIT AS WELL TO STOP ETJ LAND OWNERS FROM BEING ABLE TO EXIT ETJS UNILATERALLY.
BUT NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THAT LAWSUITS GOING TO END UP.
IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE COURT SYSTEM FOR A WHILE.
IT MAY END UP GETTING SUPERSEDED BY WHAT THE LEGISLATURE VOTES ON.
OUR LEGISLATURE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IS FAR TOO OFTEN CONTROLLED BY DEVELOPERS AND HABY LOBBYISTS.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE OF TEXAS BECAUSE THE REAL ESTATE LOBBYISTS HAVE TOO MUCH CONTROL IN AUSTIN.
WHAT WE BETTER DO IS RECOGNIZE THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN.
WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY 50 ACRES THAT'S IN THE ETJ THAT MIGHT BE TAKEN OUT AT THE ETJ, AND ONCE IT'S TAKEN OUT AND IT'S COUNTY LAND, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO WITH IT.
NOW WE CAN TRY TO PROTEST, WE CAN TRY TO STOP IT.
WE CITIZENS CAN GO TO THE COUNTY AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.
THERE'S ALL STRATEGIES WE CAN FOLLOW THERE, MANY OF WHICH WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW WITH THE HUFFINES PROPERTY IF THEY WANT TO TRY TO FIGHT IT IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEIR DENSITY IS WAY TOO HIGH, SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN THIS.
IT'S LOTS THAT ARE 8,000 SQUARE FEET.
THESE ARE NOT 8,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
YOU'RE PROPOSING 43,560 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
WHEN WE GET A DEVELOPER THAT'S WILLING TO WORK WITH US, AND WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IS SAY, YEAH, THEY WANT A ONE ACRE LOT INSTEAD OF A TWO ACRE LOT.
BUT IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO COME INTO THE CITY LIMITS.
THEY'RE NOT JUST GOING TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ONE ACRE LOTS TO BE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
THEY'LL COME INTO THE CITY LIMITS.
WE'LL GET THE TAX REVENUE FROM THAT PROPERTY, WE'LL SELL WATER TO THAT PROPERTY AND OTHER CITY SERVICES TO THAT PROPERTY, AND THEY WILL COME UNDER THE ZONING OF THE CITY AND THEY'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR PLAT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A PLAT, THIS IS A CONCEPT PROPOSAL.
THE PLAT WILL STILL BE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY CITY PLANNING AND ZONING.
BUT IT DOES INVOLVE AN AGREEMENT IN ADVANCE THAT THE CITY WOULD GO WITH LOTS THAT ARE A MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE.
THAT'S A WAY BETTER DEAL, IN MY OPINION, THAN RISKING THIS GOING TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT USE WHERE WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IT WHATSOEVER,
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OR IF WE WANT TO FIGHT IT, WE END UP IN ANOTHER MULTI MILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT LIKE WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW WITH THE HUFFINES.>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM, I AGREE WITH MANY OF THE POINTS THAT YOU MADE.
BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THE POINTS THAT YOU MADE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY GREAT IF WE COULD HAVE HAD SOME TRANSPARENCY FROM THE CITY AND LEARN ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT BEFORE THIS EVENING TO TRY TO BE ASKED TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT IT.
IT WOULD HAVE ALSO BEEN GREAT IF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF PARKER WERE AFFORDED THE COURTESY OF POSTING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT INTO THE PACKET BEFORE THE 72 HOUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT BY THE OPENS MEANING ACT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
IF WE WANT TO ADDRESS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS PUT THE INFORMATION IN THE PACKET, INFORM THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND INFORM THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN DO A PROPER REVIEW ON IT AND GIVE IT ITS DUE CONSIDERATION.
BECAUSE NONE OF THAT HAPPENED, I CAN'T SAY THAT I CAN SUPPORT FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM UNTIL WE GIVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY 72 HOURS NOTICE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT INFORMATION IN THE PACKET THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO REVIEW AND COME TO THE MEETING AND TALK ABOUT IT WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS IF THEY HAVE A COMMENT.
>> IF WE'VE HAD ISSUES THAT SOMEONE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY CREATED DELAYS THAT PUT US IN THE SITUATION, WHETHER IT'S KATHERINE, OR WHETHER IT'S GARY.
I'M NOT THROWING ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS. I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS.
I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, BUT IT TOOK TIME FOR YOU TO GET THIS DONE, CAME DOWN TO THE LAST MINUTE.
THIS IS NOT THE IDEAL WAY FOR US TO VOTE ON ANYTHING.
WE CERTAINLY NEED THE MINIMUM 72 HOURS, AND THE CITIZENS DESERVE THE MINIMUM 72 HOURS.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY BRING IT BACK FOR A VOTE IN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
BUT I'M TELLING YOU IN ADVANCE, BASED ON WHAT YOU PRESENTED AND BASED ON WHAT I'VE READ IN STUDYING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, I'M TELLING THE CITIZENS, THIS IS A WAY BETTER OPTION THAN PUTTING THIS LAND AT RISK AND ENDED UP IN ANOTHER SITUATION LIKE WE'RE IN WITH THE HUFFINES RIGHT NOW.
WHAT YOU'LL HAVE TO DO IS ASSESS WHETHER IT'S LIKELY THAT WE'LL VOTE THIS UP OR DOWN AT SOME FUTURE DATE IF WE DON'T DO IT TONIGHT.
IT'S NOT THE BEST SITUATION FOR US TO VOTE ON IT TONIGHT.
>> I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT YOU IN A SITUATION.
I WISH THAT I HAD TWO MORE WEEKS AND WE'VE WALKED IN HERE AND EVERYBODY'S LOOKED AT THIS.
I COULD HAVE MET WITH ALL OF YOU BEFORE NOW AND HAD THIS CONVERSATION OVER THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS ON WHAT WE'RE DOING, HOW WE'RE DOING IT.
I FEEL THAT THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, VERY SIMPLE. THERE'S TWO POINTS TO IT.
THERE'S AN ANNEXATION AND THERE'S A ZONING IN IT, AND THERE'S ORDINANCES ATTACHED TO IT.
THE ORDINANCES ARE ONE-ACRE LOTS AND BASICALLY FOLLOW MOST EVERY OTHER ONE OF YOUR CITY ORDINANCES.
I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU DIDN'T GET IT IN ADVANCE OR AT LEAST A DRAFT COPY OF IT OR SOMETHING CLOSE TO IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER 5, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT?
>> YEAH. AS YOU CAN TELL, I HAVE GRAY HAIR IN CASE YOU'RE CONFUSED.
I HAVE HEARD THE FEAR FACTOR MONGERING OVER AND OVER ABOUT ETG, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LANDLORDS MOVE IN AND WE HAD MEETING AFTER MEETING, WE HAVE NO LANDLORDS.
WE HAVE NO APARTMENTS AT THE END OF THE DAY.
AND YOUR CAPITAL HAS TO GO TO WORK AND IT CAN'T SIT THERE.
MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, YOU COMMENTED THAT YOU WANT TO COME INTO THE CITY.
COULD YOU SHOW WHY THIS MOTIVATION HAS TO COME INTO THE CITY?
>> I THINK TYPICALLY, WE JUST LOOK AT IT AS A BETTER PARTNERSHIP TO A BETTER TAX BASE FOR Y'ALL, CITY SERVICES, AND ALL THAT.
WE'VE NOT BEEN A PERSON TO FIGHT THE OTHER DIRECTION.
WE'VE BUILT PROJECTS IN PARKER, WE BUILT PROJECTS IN PARKER, LUCAS, FAIRVIEW, ALL OF THIS AREA, WE'VE BEEN IN DFW FOR 4 YEARS.
WE'RE NOT AROUND AND DOING REPEAT BUSINESS IN ROCKWALL, WILEY, BARKER, LUCAS, FAIRVIEW, ALLEN.
WE'RE NOT HERE BY STARTING FIGHTS.
WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE MAKE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE CITY AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY AND EVERYTHING FOR THE CITIZENS.
LIKE YOU SAID, I KNOW THERE'S FEAR-MONGERING, BUT IT'S MUCH EASIER TO PLAT A THREE-QUARTER ACRE LOT OR A HALF-ACRE LOT THAN IT IS TO PUT A WALMART RIGHT HERE.
IT'S PRETTY EASY RIGHT NOW TO GO BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, SIX MONTHS.
IT'S VERY EASY TO GO PLAT THIS IN THE COUNTY, AND OUR FIRST CONVERSATION WAS, THIS IS WHAT WORKS FOR US. THIS IS WHAT WORKS.
WE'VE GOT THE LANDOWNER TO AGREE TO MAKE IT WORK.
THESE MIGHT BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE LOTS THAT YOU'LL HAVE HAD IN PARKER IN A LONG TIME OR EVER.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A GREAT SUBDIVISION, AND THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE ONE-ACRE LOTS INSTEAD OF TWO.
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JUST LESS GRASS TO WATER.THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE SAME HOUSES.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE SAME EVERYTHING.
IT'S JUST YOU GOT A WATER PROBLEM.
WHY DO ANOTHER ACRE OF GRASS TO WATER FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE? THEY'RE GOING TO BE REALLY BEAUTIFUL HOMES AND A BEAUTIFUL SUBDIVISION.
THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE LISTENING THAT LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WE'VE BUILT IN THIS AREA, AND ARE HAPPY WITH THE COMMUNITY WE BUILT.
>> ONE OF MY COMPANIES REBUILD HOUSES IN MID-CITIES, IN PARK INTO THE QUIET HERE BIG GUY.
BUT SUGAR GETS YOU FURTHER THAN SALT. YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT.
YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU WANT TO GET ALONG AND YOU WANT TO BE IN THE CITY OF PARKER.
AND THOSE HOUSES ARE GOING TO SELL A LOT BETTER BEING IN THE CITY OF PARKER VERSUS EGYPT, ACCORDING TO PEOPLE MOVING OUT FROM RICHARDSON.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO TWO-ACRE LOTS BECAUSE I'M A HARD-LINE TWO-ACRE GUY?
THEY DON'T FIT WITH THE FLOODPLAIN TO THE NORTH.
>> I'VE GOT AN ARCHITECT THAT CAN SHOW YOU HOW THEY FIT.
>> I'M SURE THEY COULD FIT, BUT THEY WON'T FINANCIALLY WORK.
>> SO YOU MAKE FOR 6% LESS, YOU COULD MAKE A BUTTLOAD OF MONEY AND YOU MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AND YOUR WORDS ARE TRUE FOR WHAT YOU JUST SAID AND THAT YOU WANT A RELATIONSHIP WITH US?
>> NO. TWO ACRES WOULD NOT WORK AND IT'S NOT 6%. IT'S MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
YOU CAN'T GO PAY FIVE, SIX MILLION DOLLARS FOR 80-FOOT LOT.
>> COME TO THE OFFICE. I'LL SHOW YOU THAT.
>> ONE ACRE IS WHERE WE ARE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
IF IT'S NOT US, WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK WITH THIS.
THE LANDOWNER. IF WE DID TWO-ACRE LOTS, DEAL IS DEAD, THEY COME IN OR SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH ONE-ACRE PLATTED LOTS.
>> ONE COMMENT. I'M A BIG PICTURE GUY, AND I LOOKED AND YOU SAID 3,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM AND 1.2.
THAT'S PRICEY EVEN WITHIN OUR PARKER WITH OUR MUCH LARGER HOME.
SO IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING OF THEY'RE $400 A SQUARE FOOT, YOU'RE GETTING SOME MARGIN.
I'M PUTTING THE LOTS ON THE GROUND AND SELLING THE LOTS.
>> YOUR ALTERNATIVES TO WHAT'S PROPOSED ARE AS, IF THEY'RE DIFFERENT, TELL ME I'M WRONG.
BUT AS A COUNTY, TRACK OF LAND INSTEAD OF THE CITY OF PARKER, OR YOU DON'T EXECUTE THE DEAL, AND YOU LET THE LANDOWNER GO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT.
ARE THOSE THE REALISTIC ALTERNATIVES THAT YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT?
>> IF THIS WASN'T ACCEPTED HERE, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO GO GET IT PLATTED IN THE COUNTY.
SO IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ME UNLESS THE LANDOWNER GAVE ME THE TIME TO GO GET IT PLATTED IN THE COUNTY.
BUT IT PROBABLY BE THE TERMINATION OPTION, MOST LIKELY FOR US BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO GO TURN AROUND PLAT THIS IN THE COUNTY AND DO ALL THAT.
>> THE LANDOWNER IS VERY KIND.
THEY ALLOW US TO DOVE HUNT OVER THERE.
>> THE FAMILY IS, I BELIEVE, BEEN THROUGH A LOT AS PEOPLE KNOW, AND THEY'RE READY FOR THIS TO BE GONE, AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR SINCE I THINK, 2021.
I THINK THEY'RE READY FOR THIS TO END, AND THIS IS MY SHOT TO GET IT DONE.
>> OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YOU'RE FREE TO HAVE YOUR SEAT NOW, THANK YOU.
>> I'M GOING TO MAKE ONE FINAL COMMENT.
IN MY OPINION, THE ONLY REASON NOT TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT IS BECAUSE OF THE LATE HOUR AT WHICH THE INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED.
HAVING CONSUMED THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED AT THE LATE HOUR AND LISTENED TO ALL THE ARGUMENTS BACK AND FORTH, I WOULD STILL VOTE FOR IT.
BUT THE ONLY REASON NOT TO VOTE FOR IT TONIGHT IS BECAUSE OF THE LATE HOUR WHICH THE INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BOTH TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE CITIZENS.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-831 APPROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PARKER AND BUCKINGHAM LOT VENTURE LIMITED, PROVIDING FOR ANNEXATION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 46.69 ACRES OF LAND IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER.
BUCKINGHAM STATES SINCE THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS NEVER PUBLISHED FOR CONSUMPTION BY THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT SOUNDED LIKE THAT CAME FROM THAT SIDE OF THE ROOM.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS QUESTIONING.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOE IN A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FECHT, TO POSTPONE ITEM RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-831 THAT WE POSTPONE THIS TO ANOTHER MEETING UNTIL WHERE IT CAN BE PUBLISHED IN ACCORDANCE.
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ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
OKAY. ALL THOSE AGAINST [NOISE] POSTPONING THIS ITEM.
MR. PILGRIM, ARE YOU ABSTAINING?
>> THAT BEING THE CASE ON A 4-0 VOTE WITH ONE ABSTENTION, THIS ITEM IS POSTPONED.
NEXT, WE HAVE THE SADDEST ITEM.
[9. ACCEPT MAYOR PRO TEM REED’S LETTER OF RESIGNATION.]
MAYOR PRO TEM REED, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU EITHER READ OR STATE YOUR LETTER OF RESIGNATION.>> THIS IS AVAILABLE AND ANYBODY CAN READ THIS, AND I'LL PARAPHRASE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A PRETTY LONG MEETING, BUT WITH A HEAVY HEART, BUT I'M ACTUALLY SOLD MY HOUSE IN PARKER.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 25 YEARS.
I REMEMBER WHEN PARKER WAS MUCH LESS DEVELOPED IN THE EARLY '80S, DRIVING OUT HERE AND WONDERING IF SOMEDAY I COULD HAVE A HOUSE OUT HERE.
WE DID THAT IN 2000, AND I RAISED MY FAMILY HERE AND IT WAS A DREAM HOME.
>> COUNCIL, AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT MAYOR PRO TEM REED'S RESIGNATION.
>> SO WE CAN FORCE HIM TO FOR FREE?
>> I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY, I'M ALMOST FOUR YEARS ON THE COUNCIL, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS, A COUPLE OF THEM THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT I SERVED WITH.
JOY I KNOW WAS INVOLVED, TED IN THE BACK.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED VERY EARLY ON WHEN I WAS JUST GETTING STARTED ON THIS AND FRANK AND THE REST OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT HERE THAT I GET TO KNOW THROUGH THIS AND ALL THE STAFF HAVE BEEN JUST FANTASTIC.
I APPRECIATE THAT. AND OF COURSE, THE CURRENT COUNCIL THAT WE WORK TOGETHER.
NOT ALWAYS ON THE SAME PAGE IN EVERY ITEM, BUT JUST AN AMAZING GROUP OF PEOPLE.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S ZEAL AND THE FACT THAT THEY PUT UP WITH ME IN THIS AND I TRIED TO DO THE BEST I COULD, AND I KNOW I WASN'T PERFECT BY ANY MEANS, BUT IT WAS A GREAT RIDE, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.
AS I SAID IN MY LETTER, PARKER WILL ALWAYS BE MY HOME.
>> COUNCIL, DO YOU ACCEPT JIM REED'S LETTER OF RESIGNATION?
>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT COUNCIL MEMBER'S REED'S LETTER OF RESIGNATION.
>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO TO ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION OF OUR VERY EXCELLENT MAYOR PRO TEM, JIM REED.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? OTHERWISE, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANYONE AGAINST.
[LAUGHTER] THE NEXT SEVERAL ITEMS GO TOGETHER DEPENDING ON WHAT WE CHOOSE TO DO.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT MR. REED'S RESIGNATION IS NOT EFFECTIVE UNTIL FEBRUARY 8.
THEREFORE, I DON'T THINK IT IS IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO DO SOME OF THIS TONIGHT.
I THINK WE CAN DECIDE HOW WE WISH TO PROCEED.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO ACTUALLY DO AN APPOINTMENT THIS EVENING BECAUSE OF THAT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, THE AGENDA HAS BEEN PUBLISHED WITH FOUR ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND PROCEDURAL QUESTION POINT OF ORDER.
MADAM MAYOR, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PULL AN ITEM OFF THE AGENDA THAT CAN BE DONE BY A VOTE OF CITY COUNCIL.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. I THINK SHE'S JUST TAKING UP NUMBER 10.
>> NUMBER 10 IS THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, CORRECT?
>> KATHERINE, WHEN YOU SAID THAT IS CORRECT, WHAT IS CORRECT, PLEASE?
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>> THAT IN ORDER FOR AN ITEM TO BE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA, IT REQUIRES A MOTION AND A VOTE OF COUNCIL.
>> SO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
[10. CONSIDERATION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION TO FILL A COUNCILMEMBER VACANCY THROUGH MAY 2025 COUNCIL APPOINTMENT AS AUTHORIZED BY TEX. LOC. GOV’T CODE §22.010 FOR A TYPE A GENERAL LAW CITY WITH TWO YEAR TERMS AND ONE VACANCY; AND IF BY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT, APPOINTEE NOMINATION, IF ANY.]
>> OKAY. CONSIDERATION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION TO FILL A COUNCIL MEMBER VACANCY, 22.010 FOR A TYPE A GENERAL LAW CITY WITH TWO-YEAR TERMS AND ONE VACANCY.
AND IF BY COUNCIL POINT T NOMINATION.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT TERRY LYNCH TO FILL RECEIPT OF THE VACANCY BASED ON JIM REED'S RESIGNATION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOE AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FECHT TO APPOINT TERRY LYNCH TO THE REMAINDER OF MAYOR PRO TEM JIM REED'S SEAT.
>> YEAH. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON IT.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY THAT WE NEED TO BRING THESE ISSUES TO THE CITIZENS AND TO THE COUNCIL FOR A VOTE.
AT THE FIRST TIME, WE GET PUBLIC NOTICE OF THIS.
WE ALREADY HAVE SOMEBODY PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON, AND THEY GET VOTED ON AND NOMINATED.
THAT'S THE SAME WAY THAT RANDY GOT ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE FIRST TIME THE PUBLIC WAS AWARE OF IT WAS THE NIGHT THAT IT WAS ANNOUNCED, AND THEN THERE WAS A MOTION MADE BY TERRY TO NOMINATE RANDY TO FILL THE VACANCY OF MICHAEL SLAUGHTER, AND IT WAS SECONDED AND IT WAS VOTED ON INSTANTLY.
THERE WAS NO OTHER OPTIONS THAT WERE REALLY PRESENTED TO THE CITIZENS.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRY.
I'VE KNOWN HER FOR SINCE 2010. I LIKE HER.
I KNOW SHE SERVED WELL ON THE COUNCIL BEFORE, AND SHE WOULD DO WELL.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HER.
I'M FINE IF YOU END UP IN THAT SPOT.
I DON'T LIKE THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THOUGH WHERE THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED AMONGST SOME OF YOU BECAUSE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN CLOSED SESSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND I SAID, THIS ISN'T EVEN APPROPRIATE DISCUSSION FOR US TO HAVE IN CLOSED SESSION AS TO WHO MIGHT FILL AN OPEN CITY COUNCIL SPOT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.
>> NO. IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN CLOSED SESSION.
I MADE THE POINT THAT WE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE DISCUSSING IN CLOSED SESSION WHO SHOULD FILL AN OPEN COUNCIL SPOT.
I WAS TOLD WELL, THAT'S A PERSONNEL ISSUE, SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT BACK HERE.
THAT'S NOT A PERSONNEL ISSUE BECAUSE THIS IS AN ELECTED POSITION, IT'S NOT A CITY EMPLOYEE POSITION.
SO IT'S NOT A PERSONNEL ISSUE.
WE MIGHT DISCUSS IN CLOSED SESSION THE PROCESS THAT YOU GO THROUGH IN TERMS OF VOTING OR NOMINATING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT DISCUSSING INDIVIDUALS SHOULD NOT BE DONE IN CLOSED SESSION.
I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE FIRST TIME WE TAKE A VOTE TO HAVE ONE NAME BROUGHT UP THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PRE-DISCUSSED AS OPPOSED TO GIVING CITIZENS TIME TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY THAT THEY WANT TO NOMINATE, OR MAYBE NO OTHER PERSON WOULD BE NOMINATED.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A POINT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER REED DESCRIBED HIS RESIGNATION DURING THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THAT WAS VERY PUBLIC INFORMATION.
IT'S ON THE RECORDING FOR ANYBODY WHO WATCHED THE COUNCIL MEETING LAST TIME OR LISTEN TO THE RECORDING.
THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN PUBLIC SINCE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU.
>> BUT THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE FILL THE SEAT, WHICH COULD EITHER BE BY ELECTION, BY ALLOWING CITIZENS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE, OR BY ANY OF US NOMINATING SOMEONE WAS NOT DISCUSSED.
>> I WAS NEVER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN WE DISCUSSED HAVING AND TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE BEING IN THERE, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.
>> IS THAT THERE? BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL.
BECAUSE I WAS AT THE INAUGURATION, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT.
>> IT WAS NOT AS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT YOU WERE IN.
>> JUST ONE COMMENT IS I BELIEVE THAT IN MY SITUATION WHERE MY TERM IS MOSTLY OVER, THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ELECTION FOR A SHORT-TERM LIKE MINE, SO IT HAS TO BE AN APPOINTMENT.
>> APPOINTMENT. ALSO HAVING A VETERAN THAT KNOWS AND HAS BEEN THERE BEFORE IS ESSENTIAL FOR OUR PROGRESS OF MOVING FORWARD.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYONE WHO HAS EMAILED ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, OR HAS COME FORWARD, OR WAS HERE IN PUBLIC THREE MINUTE TALKING TO SAY THEY WANT TO DO IT, AND THEY'VE KNOWN FOR WEEKS.
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>> WELL, I ALSO HAVE KNOWN TERRY FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND ENJOYED WORKING WITH HER, AND OBVIOUSLY, SHE NOMINATED ME FOR WHEN I GOT PUT ON COUNCIL FIRST TIME.
I THINK THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT AT THE TIME THAN IT IS THIS TIME.
I AGAIN, WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN PILGRIM THAT IF TERRY WOUND UP IN THIS SLATE, I THINK SHE'D DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AND SHE'D BE WELCOME.
BUT I WOULD ALSO AGREE THAT GIVEN IT'S DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES THAN IT WAS WHEN I WOUND UP BEING PLACED ON COUNCIL, I DO THINK WE COULD AT LEAST PROVIDE THE TWO-WEEK PERIOD TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FOR PEOPLE TO COME FORWARD AND AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THEY COULD STATE THEIR PURPOSES, AND DIRECTION, AND WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO OR NOT DO, AND WHY THEY'D LIKE TO BE ON COUNCIL OR NOT, AND THEN TAKE THE VOTE AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY THAT SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO FILL JIM'S SPOT RIGHT AWAY.
FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY AND WHO MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE INTERESTED IN THE POSITION.
>> COUNCILMAN KERCHO, I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE FIVE MEETINGS LEFT BEFORE THE ELECTION AND THE SEATS WILL BE FILLED VIA ELECTION.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE MANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO DO DURING THE REST OF THE TERM THAT MAYOR PRO TEM JIM REED WAS SERVING.
TO, I GUESS, SUGGEST THAT GIVEN THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE HAVE, AS YOU MENTIONED, IT IS A DIFFERENT TIMEFRAME, WHEN YOU WERE APPOINTED, THERE WAS MUCH MORE LENGTH TO FULFILL IN THE TERM.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIVE MEETINGS, AND SO I GUESS THE THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FILL IS SHORT.
I THINK IT PROBABLY COMES INTO A SIMILAR CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WHEN WE TRIED TO FILL THE INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY, WHERE I UNDERSTAND, COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM THAT YOU DIDN'T FEEL CONFIDENT, GIVING YOUR VOTE OF APPROVAL TO OUR COUNSEL CATHERINE CLIFTON AT THE TIME BECAUSE YOU HAD NOT HAD AMPLE TIME TO UNDERSTAND HER ABILITIES OR HER BACKGROUND TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION.
WE HAVE BEFORE US A PERSON WHO HAS SERVED ON CITY COUNCIL BEFORE, WHO BRINGS EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT A CITY COUNCIL IS AND HOW IT RUNS, AND HAS SERVED EXCELLENTLY IN THE PAST, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR HER TO FILL IN FOR FIVE MEETINGS BEFORE THE NEW PERSON IS ELECTED.
I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF TRYING TO ESTABLISH CONTINUED CONTINUITY TO SERVE OUR CITIZENS WITH A FULL COUNCIL THAT'S CONTINUING TO DO THE GOODWILL OF THE PEOPLE, THAT WE JUST CONSIDER TERRY LYNCH AS A PERSON WHO COULD FILL THAT SEAT AND CONTRIBUTE FOR JUST THOSE FIVE MEETINGS.
I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE THING TO CONSIDER.
>> YEAH. IN THE SUBSTANCE OVER FORM, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 10, 20 YEARS.
THIS IS NOTHING NEW, AND IT'S EXACTLY HOW WE DID IT WITH RANDY.
SO I THINK WE'RE LUCKY IF SHE'LL SAY YES, QUITE FRANKLY WITH HER EXPERIENCE AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.
>> WELL, IF YOU WANT TO SAY IT'S NOT EXACTLY TRUE, FOR WHAT ABOUT EXACTLY, WHAT'S NOT TRUE? LET ME FINISH, PLEASE. DID WE OR DID WE DO IT THAT WAY WITH RANDY? YES OR NO?
>> WE DID IT THAT WAY WITH RANDY.
>> I SAID 10 OR 20 YEAR. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS.
I WASN'T UP HERE AT THIS TIME.
I'M REFERENCING REALLY WHAT WE DID LAST TIME WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT.
>> THAT WOULD BE A FAIR WAY TO SAY IT.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU MS. NOE IS, IS IF WE MADE THIS ITEM, THE VERY FIRST ITEM ON THE FEBRUARY 18TH AGENDA.
>> MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
>> THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE DISCUSSION IS WHEN THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. [OVERLAPPING]
>> RIGHT. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE ITEM TO A DIFFERENT AGENDA IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD YOU ASK.
>> WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ITEM.
>> WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION, WHICH IS WHEN YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IS WHEN YOU HAVE DISCUSSION, AND THERE CAN BE MOTIONS TO AMEND THE MOTION.
WHAT COUNCILMAN FECHT MENTIONED AND WHAT YOU MENTIONED IS THE WAY WE DID THIS BEFORE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I'M OPPOSED TO THIS.
I WAS SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE BEFORE BESIDES SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, AND I REMEMBER THE REACTION WE HAD.
I HAPPENED TO HAVE BEEN HERE THAT NIGHT, AND IT LOOKED LIKE A VERY PLANNED DEAL THAT A NOMINATION WAS MADE, A VOTE WAS CAST, AND IT WAS A DONE DEAL IN A MATTER OF ABOUT 45 SECONDS.
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THERE WERE CITIZENS THERE THEN THAT MIGHT HAVE SAID, IF I'D KNOWN THIS WAS AN OPENING OR THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED, I MIGHT HAVE PUT MY NAME IN THE HAT, BUT NOBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY.IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD TO OUR CITIZENS.
IT FELT VERY RIGGED THEN THAT WHO WAS GOING TO NOMINATE AND WHO WAS GOING TO SECOND WAS ALREADY A DONE DEAL, AND THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH RANDY.
RANDY AND I HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE.
RANDY'S BEEN A SUPERB COUNCILMAN TO WORK WITH.
I KNOW TERRY WAS A SUPERB COUNCILWOMAN WHEN SHE WAS ON THE COUNCIL AS WELL, AND I THINK SHE'LL SERVE WELL AGAIN.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THINGS AND WE COULD POSTPONE THIS VOTE UNTIL AS EXACTLY THE MAYOR SAID, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE NEXT AGENDA OR QUITE FRANKLY, WE COULD POSTPONE IT TO A SPECIAL MEETING THAT WE HOLD BEFORE THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IF WE WANT TO DO IT, JUST TO GIVE ANYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY.
THERE MAY NOT BE ANOTHER SOUL IN THIS CITY THAT WANTS TO RUN.
FRANKLY, I HAVE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE GOT ESSENTIALLY SO MANY OPENINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP THIS YEAR, THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH GOOD CITIZENS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN RUNNING.
I'M GLAD TO HAVE TERRY IS ONE WHO'S INTERESTED, ALTHOUGH I'M TOLD SHE'S NOT INTERESTED IN SERVING BEYOND MAY, BUT WE MAY HAVE PROBLEMS GETTING ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SERVE, BUT THE RIGHT WAY TO FILL A SPOT IS NOT THIS WAY, IN MY OPINION.
IT DIDN'T LOOK RIGHT LAST TIME AND I DON'T THINK IT LOOKS RIGHT TONIGHT.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND YOUR MOTION AND TO POSTPONE THIS VOTE TO THE FIRST ITEM OF THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE HOLD.
>> DON'T WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR FIRST?
>> I WILL ASK COUNCIL MEMBER NOE, ARE YOU WILLING TO ACCEPT COUNCILMAN PILGRIM. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MADAM MAYOR, POINT OF ORDER.
THERE'S A MOTION TO AMEND ON THE FLOOR, AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO AMEND BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT. THANK YOU.
CATHERINE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR MAKING A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS?
>> A MOTION TO POSTPONE CAN BE MADE AFTER THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AMENDING THE MOTION.
IT'S JUST POSTPONING THE ACTION.
>> THEN I MAKE THE MOTION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE NEEDS TO BE A SECOND IS MY POINT.
>> I MISSED YOUR POINT. WOULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, PLEASE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE NEEDS TO BE A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO AMEND.
>> NOW I'M GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU, MS. NOE.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION.
>> MY QUESTION IS, THEY HAVE MADE A MOTION TO POSTPONE IF YOU'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION WHICH IS [INAUDIBLE].
>> MADAM MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
IF THERE'S A COUNCILPERSON WHO MAKES AN AMENDMENT IN A MOTION, THEN IT'S NOT UP TO ME TO MAKE A DECISION.
THERE'S A MOTION, AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND, AND NOW THERE'S DISCUSSION.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS.
>> I THINK WHAT SHE'S ASKING YOU IS, WILL YOU ACCEPT THAT MOTION [INAUDIBLE].
>> THERE TO BE A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A VOTE ON AN AMENDMENT AND A SECOND. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE'S AN AMENDMENT TO A MOTION.
GENERALLY, THE PERSON WHO MADE THE FIRST MOTION IS ASKED WHETHER THEY WISH TO ACCEPT THAT OR NOT.
>> MAYOR, THE MOTION TO POSTPONE IS AN INDEPENDENT MOTION WHILE THERE'S ANOTHER MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
IT'S JUST A MOTION TO POSTPONE.
>> THAT ONE SUPERSEDES? THEN AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO TO POSTPONE THIS APPOINTMENT UNTIL THE FIRST ITEM ON THE NEXT AGENDA AT THE NEXT MEETING.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ALL THOSE AGAINST POSTPONING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
YOU GET TO VOTE. YEAH, YOUR RESIGNATION WAS EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 8. YOU VOTE THROUGH THE.
>> I'M UNCLEAR ON WHAT THIS MAYOR.
>> [INAUDIBLE] I WAS INVOLVED.
[02:45:10]
>> MY VOTE IS, LET'S FINISH IT. LET'S GET IT DONE NOW.
>> OKAY. NOW, THE MOTION TO POSTPONE FAILS.
NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION OF AMANDA NOE TO APPOINT TERRY LYNCH TO FILL THE VACANCY OF MAYOR PRO TEM REED'S RESIGNATION OR HIS TERM.
THAT IS SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER FECHT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING TERRY LYNCH. YES, YOU DO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING TERRY LYNCH TO THE UNFULFILLED TERM OF COUNCILMAN REED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
TERRY, YOU ARE ELECTED TO FULFILL HIS TERM STARTING AT THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE HIS RESIGNATION IS NOT EFFECTIVE UNTIL FEBRUARY 8, ACCORDING TO THE DOCUMENT.
UNLESS I SCREWED THAT. [LAUGHTER] I'M SORRY.
AT THIS TIME, WE ARE CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-833,
[12. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2025-833 APPOINTING THE 2024-2025 MAYOR PRO TEM. [REMAINDER OR MAYOR PRO TEM REED’S TERM - RES. NO. 2024-792]]
APPOINTING THE '24 '25 MAYOR PRO TEM.THIS IS THE REMAINDER OF MAYOR PRO TEM REED'S TERM.
DO WE WISH TO PROCEED WITH THIS TONIGHT OR DO WE WISH TO POSTPONE IT? I NEED A MOTION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ANY DISCUSSION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING ANY ACTION ON APPOINTING A MAYOR PRO TEM TO REPLACE MAYOR PRO TEM REED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[13. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2025-834 ON UPDATING THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.]
ANY CONSIDERATION OR APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-834 ON UPDATING THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.AGAIN, MAYOR PRO TEM REED SERVES ON THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE AND HE WILL BE RELINQUISHING THAT SPOT, AND THIS CAN GO TONIGHT OR IT CAN BE POSTPONED WHATEVER COUNCIL WISHES TO DO.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER 13, WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATION OR ANY ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-834 ON UPDATING THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOE AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM TO POSTPONE ANY ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-834, UPDATING THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.
ANY DISCUSSIONS? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING ANY APPOINTMENT ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-834, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANYONE AGAINST? MOTION CARRIES FIVE, ZERO.
NOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO, BEAR WITH ME IN ONE SECOND, WE'RE GOING TO UPDATES.
[14. UPDATE(S)]
WELL, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT BECAUSE I NEED BUDDY HERE ON THAT ONE.GARY, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON 2551?
>> NOT FINISHED UNTIL NEXT WEEK?
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>> [INAUDIBLE] THEY GENERATE [INAUDIBLE].
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'M GOING TO OFFER POTENTIALLY LIKE 3-5 TIME SLOTS, AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN HAVE A SCHEDULE ALIGNMENT SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME MOVEMENT ON THIS ITEM.
IT'S READY TO GO ON AN AGENDA AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
>> NOTHING MORE THAN WHAT I WAS READY TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS OF INTEREST.
>> PAN MARY, I DO JUST HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE NOISE COMMITTEE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NOISE COMMITTEE WAS REQUESTING TO RECORD THE MEETINGS, AND I WONDER IF THE MEETINGS ARE BEING RECORDED.
IF SO, WHERE CAN A PERSON FIND THOSE RECORDINGS IF THEY ARE INTERESTED TO LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION?
>> I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN RECORDED AND I THINK THEY'RE USING PATTY'S.
>> RECORDER. IT'S A RECORDING DEVICE LIKE A AUDIO RECORDING DEVICE, YOU CAN'T DO IT THROUGH THE NORMAL SITUATION, BUT THEY'RE AVAILABLE IN PATTY HAS THE RECORDINGS.
>> SURE. THERE'S A FILE THAT COULD BE UPLOADED.
>> I'M NOT SURE. I'LL HAVE TO ASK HER IF THAT CAN BE UPLOADED OR NOT.
>> HOW DO WE GET THOSE? BECAUSE LIKE I'M ON THE COMMITTEE AND I'VE ASKED AND I'VE SENT E-MAILS ON ADC ASKING FOR AVAILABLE TIME SO ALL OF US CAN MAKE THEM AND THEY'RE LIKE, TWO IN THE AFTERNOON WITH VERY LITTLE NOTICE WHEN YOU HAVE THIS THING CALLED A LIFE AND SIX MEETINGS.
I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO HAVE MEETINGS WHERE EVERYBODY CAN GET THERE AND WOULD GET RECORDINGS TO THE CITIZEN SO THEY CAN HEAR IT.
IT'S LIKE I DON'T KNOW, WARPED VOLT.
>> PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, IF THE MEETING IS HELD OUT HERE, SWAGIT DOESN'T PICK UP VERY WELL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
I THINK PATTY WAS USING HER TAPE RECORDER TO TAPE THE MEETING.
BRANDY, IS THERE ANY OTHER RECORDING DEVICE OR JIM, YOU WENT TO THE LAST MEETING, I THINK.
>> MY REQUEST IS JUST TO UPLOAD THOSE FILES.
JUST LIKE WE UPLOAD EVERY OTHER MEETING.
>> BUT JUST UPLOAD THEM TO THE WEB SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE HUNT FOR THEM IN THE DARK.
>> I'LL UPLOAD WHAT WE HAVE, BUT I HAVE GIVEN THE REPORTERS THE LAST TIME TO GET TURNED ON.
I CHECKED WITH RANDY AND HE SAID THEY DID NOT.
>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE HAD THE RECORDER AT THE LAST MEETING TO BE FRANK.
I MEAN, INITIALLY, THE COMMITTEE, I THINK, ACTUALLY, SOME CITIZENS WITHIN THE GROUP THAT WERE ATTENDING THE MEETINGS, HAD ASKED THAT THEY BE TAPED AND WE SAID, CERTAINLY WE CAN TAPE IT.
TAPE THE FIRST ONE. I WON'T GO INTO THE REASON WHY PEOPLE WANTED TO TAPE, BUT AFTER THE FIRST MEETING, I THINK THINGS HAD CALMED DOWN QUITE A BIT AND THAT NO ONE REALLY CAME FORWARD AND SAID, I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO TAPE THESE.
IF IT'S THE COUNCIL'S DECISION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET A TAPE, THEN CERTAINLY WE CAN TAPE IT AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT, MADE AVAILABLE.
>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE NOISE COMMITTEE DOESN'T WANT IT TAPED.
>> THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAPE.
WE JUST DIDN'T FEEL THAT IT NEEDED TO BE TAPED.
THE INDIVIDUALS THAT FELT THAT NEEDED TO BE TAPED OR WANTED TO TAPE DIDN'T VOICE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE TAPED.
WE DIDN'T. IT WASN'T ANY DIRECTIVE OF COUNCIL.
IT WAS NEVER REQUIREMENT AND THE GROUP BASICALLY SAID, WE DIDN'T SAY NO, WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAPE, WE JUST SAID DOESN'T NEED TO BE TAPED.
BUT IF COUNCIL WANTS TO GET IT TAPED AND THAT'S A DIRECTIVE OF COUNCIL, THEN CERTAINLY WE CAN BRING IN A TAPE RECORDER AND TAPE IT.
HOW IT GETS DISTRIBUTED? I DON'T KNOW. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TECHNICAL ASPECT OF IT.
>> I THOUGHT COUNCIL WAS PRETTY CLEAR ON IT TO BE TAPED.
>> BECAUSE I TALKED TO SWAGIT.
I THINK PATTY DID, WE ALL DID AND THAT'S WHEN WE CAME UP AND ASKED TO USE.
MATTER OF FACT, I THINK WE USED TWO OF YOUR TAPE RECORDERS BECAUSE ONE WAS IN HERE AND THEN I HAD TO BRING ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WASN'T WORKING RIGHT.
WE WILL FIGURE THAT OUT AND THEN UPLOAD IT TO THE WEBSITE.
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>> YES, MA'AM. PREVIOUSLY BEFORE SWAGIT, WE USE THOSE SAME TAPE RECORDS IT'S AN EMPTY CREW FILE, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A PUSH BUTTON THAT HAS TO BE RECORDED.
>> BUT IF I HAVE AN EMPTY FREE FILE ON THE RECORDER, YES, THEY CAN BE UPLOADED.
>> WE'LL FIGURE THAT ONE OUT GET IT DONE.
ON LEWIS LANE WORK IN PROGRESS.
WE RECEIVED A DOCUMENT FROM THE CITY OF LUCAS.
YESTERDAY, I GUESS IT WAS OR TODAY THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW, THAT WILL BE REVIEWED AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
GARY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON LEWIS? THE INTERSECTION OF CHAPARRAL AND ISLAND HEIGHTS, OR SPRING HILL ESTATES, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.
I NEED TO KNOW TOMORROW ABOUT READ AN E-MAIL, I NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU LIKE STUFF. THAT'S ALL I.
>> BECAUSE I'VE GOT NOTHING. YOU WEREN'T THERE.
>> I KNOW LAST COUNCIL MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT TRAFFIC PATTERNS IN THERE AND ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT ALLEN HAD AS FAR AS THEIR DATA.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF PRICE HAS HAD TIME TO LOOK AT.
>> I KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU WERE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
I THINK IT WAS MAYBE SERGEANT BURT.
AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME ISSUES AT THAT INTERSECTION OF A BACKUP FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO TURN LEFT OUT OF THE KNOLLS THAT IF IT IN FACT GOT TO RUSH HOUR WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET AT THAT TIME GOING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS AND THAT IF THERE'S A STOP SIGN, TRAFFIC MIGHT START BACKING UP.
IF THE TRAFFIC STARTS BACKING UP, NOT TOO MANY CARS, THEN IT BASICALLY DOESN'T ALLOW REALLY AN ENTRANCE FOR THE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE KNOLLS.
WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WAS TO HAVE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC OVER THERE DURING THOSE TIMES AND SEE IF WHAT THEIR OPINION WAS, AND ALSO THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT CITY OF ALLEN APPARENTLY HAD DONE SOME TRAFFIC STUDIES AT THAT INTERSECTION AND HAD DATA ON IT AND THAT WE WOULD RESEARCH THAT DATA TO SEE WHAT IT MIGHT INDICATE.
>> IN THAT MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH ALLEN [BACKGROUND].
>> THEY JUST CALLED THAT OUT TO US. THEY CALLED US OUT.
>> A CLARIFICATION FOR ME, YOU WANT A STUDY FROM KNOLLS AND NOT CHAPARRALS.
YOU WANT NORTH BOUND OR SOUTH BOUND OR WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO?
>> BUT JUST THE TRAFFIC PATTERN AT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, IT'S COMMON SENSE RIGHT TO SOME EXTENT OR EDUCATED GUESS.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS DURING RUSH HOUR TIMES, AND YOU SEE A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN ANY DIRECTION, YOU CAN TELL IF THERE'S A STOP SIGN THERE, WHAT BACKUP THERE'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY BE.
THE ISSUE THOUGH IS PARTICULARLY FROM YOUR QUESTION, I HAVE SOME PEOPLE OF THE KNOLLS RESIDENTS SAYING THAT THEIR CONCERN IS OBVIOUSLY THE NORTH BOUND TRAFFIC GOING ON SPRING HILL ESTATES WOULD START TO BACK UP.
IF THEY CAME OUT AND WANTED TO GO NORTH BOUND ON SPRING HILL ESTATES, THAT THE BACKUP MIGHT BE SO SIGNIFICANT THAT REALLY THERE'S NOT ANY OPENINGS FOR THEM TO GET INTO, ESPECIALLY AGAIN WITH MORE TRAFFIC COMING ANY OTHER DIRECTION.
IT JUST WOULD CREATE A BIT OF A MESS.
>> MY DEVICE COUNTS THE NUMBER OF CARS AND THE TIME OF THE DAY IF THE TRAFFIC IS EARLY.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT AS MUCH AS MAYBE.
IF YOU COULD POST AN OFFICER OUT THERE DURING RUSH HOUR, MAYBE ONCE DURING MORNING RUSH HOUR AND DURING AFTERNOON RUSH HOUR, JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC
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BECAUSE THE CONCERN IS ONLY DURING RUSH HOUR TIMES, THE VERY SHORT DISTANCE BETWEEN CHAPARRAL AND THE EXIT TO THE KNOLLS.IT WOULDN'T TAKE, BUT PROBABLY I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
IF HALF A DOZEN CARS ARE BACKED UP THERE, THAT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO TURN LEFT OUT OF THE KNOLLS.
>> THE PROBLEM WITH SETTING OFF WITH THAT IS RUSH HOUR DURING THE DAY IN THAT AREA TO BE SEVERAL HOURS.
IT WOULD BETTER WE COUNT THE TRAFFIC AND SEE BECAUSE IT COUNTS FOR THE TRAFFIC ALONG WITH THE SPEED SO PERHAPS A SLOW WAY DOWN THAT WOULD GIVE US.
>> THAT'S WHY YOU'RE THE CHIEF.
ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK JUST REAL BRIEFLY ABOUT OR TWO OTHER THINGS.
BACK WHEN JANUARY 16TH, 2024, WE HAD AN AGENDA ITEM REGARDING AT THAT TIME, WE CALLED IT THE PUMP STATION BUILDING.
IT'S REALLY THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING AND THERE WAS A DESIGN THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THAT TIME, AND LUKE WAS GIVEN DIRECTION TO GET US INFORMATION REGARDING THE COST OF THIS AND THE MATERIALS AND THAT THING.
SOMEWHERE OR OTHER THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS BACK ON THE RADAR.
HE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO GO AND LOOK AT THE MATERIALS AND THAT CAN GET US A COST.
BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL EITHER THE NEXT TIME OR TIME AFTER.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT UPDATE.
I KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND OUR CITY STAFF CAN LEVERAGE A NEW SPACE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO UPGRADE ALL THE SPACES.
THANKS FOR THAT UPDATE, AND I'M ENCOURAGED TO HEAR THAT NEWS.
>> WE FINALLY REALIZED EVERY TIME I PUT PUMP STATION BUILDING ON THE AGENDA, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS THE PUMP STATION.
FINALLY WE COMMUNICATED OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THE LAST THING I HAVE IS COUNCIL AVAILABILITY.
IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO SCHEDULE MEETINGS AND NOBODY SHOWS UP AND NOBODY RESPONDS.
THEN WE HAVE NOT TONIGHT, BUT LAST TIME WE HAD 12 PEOPLE AT A MEETING IN KATHERINE, AND THAT HAD TO BE RESET BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T SHOW.
THE CITY'S BUSINESS IS NOT GETTING DONE ON SOME THINGS, AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.
WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU-ALL TO DO AND THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'M GOING TO ASK IT JUST SO YOU KNOW IS PLEASE SEND ME OR SEND PATTY YOUR AVAILABILITY.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S ON SATURDAY, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S ON SUNDAY, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S AT MIDNIGHT OR FOUR IN THE MORNING.
LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU ARE AVAILABLE BECAUSE I REALLY WANT YOU-ALL AT THE MEETINGS, AND YOU'RE PUTTING ME INTO A POSITION THAT I DON'T LIKE.
I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SET EMPLOYMENT INTERVIEWS UP, AND I'M THE ONLY ONE THERE.
YET THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I NEED TO KNOW WHEN PEOPLE CAN BE AVAILABLE SO THAT THEY CAN GET THEM SCHEDULED.
THE LAST TIME I ASKED JANUARY 7TH.
I SENT OUT A REMINDER OR PATTY SENT OUT THE REMINDER JANUARY 8TH AND WE STILL DIDN'T GET RESPONSES FROM EVERYBODY.
WE SENT OUT RESPONSES OR REMINDERS ON THE 23RD.
SAME THING. THIS IS A PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, EXCEPT JUST START SCHEDULING MOMENT WHENEVER AND PRAY TO GOD THAT YOU-ALL CAN BE THERE.
PLEASE SEND ME SOME INFORMATION AS TO WHEN YOU CAN BE THERE.
[03:05:01]
PLEASE. OTHERWISE, DON'T GET MAD WHEN THINGS GET SCHEDULED BECAUSE WE GOT TO GO ON.[15. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $1,000 [RES. NO. 2024-801])]
ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS FOR THE FIRE, POLICE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD.MARY ELLEN KAVANAUGH DONATED CHIPS AND SNACKS VALUED AT $50 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
JERRY DURO DONATED $100 TO THE PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
LINDA RYAN DONATED TWO BOXES OF GIRL SCOUT COOKIES, VALUED AT $12 TO CITY STAFF.
WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU THINK OF US AND REMEMBER US.
WE JUST CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH. THANK YOU.
[16. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
NOT HEARING ANY.YOU-ALL KNOW YOU CAN SEND ME A DEAL AND WE WILL PUT IT ON.
YOU'RE GETTING THE LIST ON WITH YOUR AGENDA AND IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
WE'RE DOING BETTER. BEFORE I ADJOURN, I HAVE ONE LAST THING TO DO.
>> SO FAR IN RECOGNITION FOR YOUR SERVICE AT PARKERS, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PLAQUE AND TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR EXCELLENT SERVICE, YOUR WORK.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO WITHOUT YOU.
TERRY YOU GOT BIG SHOES TO FILL.
>> NOW WE WILL ADJOURN SO WE CAN HAVE A RECEPTION.
UNLESS HE'S GOT 4 HOURS FOR US.
>> NO.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.