[CALL TO ORDER]
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>> THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA HERE AFTER THE PLEDGE IS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
>> PUBLIC COMMENTS. I JUST WANT TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT BASICALLY, THE DRAFT THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS THE CINDY AND MYSELF.
END RESULT OF QUITE SOME TIME WHETHER THE PSC OR COUNSEL TRYING TO PUT IT TOGETHER THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BASICALLY, IT WAS A FAILURE MAJORITY OF ALL POINTS AND CINDY TOOK IT UPON HERSELF, BASICALLY AT ONE POINT IN TIME TO JUST START THE COMP PLAN FROM SCRATCH, PUT IT TOGETHER AND ALLOWED US AS A COMMITTEE BASICALLY A STARTING POINT TO REALLY START LOOKING AT IT.
THE MOST PART, WE ADOPTED WITH THE WRITTEN, WE PROBABLY MADE SOME PLEADS, MADE SOME ADDITION, MAYBE TAKE OUT A FEW THINGS, BUT IN MOST PART, THAT IT, WHAT IT WAS DEVELOP IT WAS GOOD PLAN.
NOW THE PLAN AS WE LOOKED AT PLAN ACROSS VARIOUS OTHER CITIES, THE COM PLAN CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS WHAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH IS REALLY AN ORDINANCE THAT ADOPTS FOR MAPS.
FOR THE MOST PART, A PLAN, WELL, IT CAN BE COVER A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE ONE THING, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS REALLY YOUR LAND USE.
AN GROUP TO ALL THE ZONING, AND ADDITIONALLY, IDENTIFY FROM A FUTURE PERSPECTIVE WHAT YOU WANT THE CITY TO LOOK LIKE IN THE LAND USE AREA WAS MOST IMPORTANT OF COURSE THE LAND USE OR DEVELOPMENT OF LAND.
THE FACT THAT WE COME OUT AND SAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO RESIDENTIAL, I GO WITH TWO ACRES THAT BASICALLY SETS THE PARAMETER FOR RELOP OR OTHERS COMING IN, AND THEY BASICALLY HAVE TO START THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A COP THE CURRENT COMP PLAN, HAVING EVEN S ORDINANCE AND ADOPTING FOR MAP DOES SUFFICE AS THE COM PLAN.
I BELIEVE IT DOES STAY TWO ACRES.
IN REALITY, WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS STILL BUT WHAT WE FELT THAT YOU LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF OTHER COMPLAINS, AND IT CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS WHAT WE HAD, OR IT CO BE LOW IN EXCESS OF 100 PAGES.
CERTAINLY WE HAD A LOW BAR SET AS TO WHAT ANOTHER TOP PLAN COULD LOOK AT.
WE WERE HAPPY WITH WHAT CITY HAD COME UP WITH AGAIN, JUST MADE A FEW CHANGES TO IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT BEFORE IT GOT TO THE OR THE PNC BOARD, WE HAD WANTED TO MAKE A FEW OTHER CHANGES WEB THAT READY TO MOVE ON.
HOWEVER, PRIOR TO THOSE CHANGES, LATE CHANGES OR TYPE BEING MADE, I THINK IT GOT SENT TO ONE OR MORE OF THE E&C.
FOR WHICH WE ALREADY HAD DO ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT IT'S IN A WALKING BAS FANS SITUATION WHICH WE DIDN'T WANT OBVIOUSLY THE PLAN ITSELF, WHICH THEN GOT PUSHED TO LANDING ZONING GROUP WAS WHAT HAD PUSHED BACK TO THE LAST THING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AS A GROUP IN THAT COMMITTEE AND NO OTHER CHANGES WITH LANE CHANGES WERE NEVER BEHAVE BUT I THINK THEY'VE GOT THE COMMENT.
CERTAINLY YOU CAN GO THROUGH FROM A PLANNING AND ZONING GROUP.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CURRENT PLAN AND THE WEEK IT OR YOU CAN GO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND YOU CAN TEAR THE WHOLE THING UP AND START SCRATCHING YOUR PROG WHAT YOU WANT TO SET.
ALSO AS COMING OUT OF THE PING.
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>> LET'S JUMP HERE INTO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS HERE BECAUSE WE
[1. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR JULY 11, 2024.]
NEED TO DO OUR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.SO FIRST ITEM, CONSIDERATION AND OR APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR JULY 11TH, 2024.
>> ALL IN FAVOR. MEETING MINUTES, STAND AS WRITTEN.
ITEM NUMBER 2, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMP PLAN.
[2. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN (COMP PLAN).]
>> I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME TO MY MIND IS WAS IT DISCUSSED ABOUT WHAT THE ACTUAL PURPOSE WAS OF THE COMPLAINT? IN OTHER WORDS, AND BY THAT, I MEAN, I MEAN, WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I MEAN, IT'S GOOD.
DON'T GET ME WRONG HERE, BUT I WANT TO SAY THE PURPOSE IS IF I HAND THIS TO A RESIDENT, A CURRENT RESIDENT, A NEW RESIDENT, A DEVELOPER OR ANYONE ELSE, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE WANT TO DEVELOP THE CITY PARK.
THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK BASED ON BASED ON WHAT MY REVIEW OF IT, I FELT LIKE IT GIVES A LOT OF GOOD BACKGROUND INFORMATION IN ANY OF.
IN SOME CASES, I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT DEVELOPER THAT COMES ALONG.
HOW THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN HERE AND SAY, THE 10 HOUSE IS AN ACRE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUT AN EXON STATION ON THE CORNER AND EVERYTHING.
I THINK HE DOES A GOOD JOB OF SHOWING THEM THAT THAT'S NOT HOW THIS ALL YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S MY I JUST WANT TO START WITH MY ROLE. ANYBODY ELSE?
I FEEL THAT IT SHOULD BE A DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS THE VISION FOR THE CITY.
I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, YOU HIT ON THAT.
THERE'S A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ON IT, BUT WE'LL THE OTHER TWO FOLKS HERE GIVE THEIR OPINIONS AS WELL.
>> YEAH, I GUESS I WAS WONDERING HOW MUCH DETAIL WE WANT TO GO IN AS FAR AS MAKING CORRECTIONS OR ASKING QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A TON OF EDITS, BUT I DO HAVE SOME.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PAGE BY PAGE OR SECTION BY SECTION.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S AN INCREDIBLE DOCUMENT.
A LOT OF WORK'S BEEN DONE ON IT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IT MOVE FORWARD TO COUNSEL, BUT I DON'T KNOW I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND SUGGEST OR ASK QUESTIONS.
>> WHAT I WANT TO START WITH HIGH LEVEL COMMENTS OF THE THOUGHTS WERE, ANYTHING ELSE.
IS THERE ANY MAJOR YOU SAW, WHAT I WOULD CALL MORE SIGNIFICANT AS OPPOSED TO THERE.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT I SAW ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT.
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ALL THE CATEGORIES SEEM TO BE THERE.IT MIGHT JUST BE WITHIN THE CATEGORIES, MORE DETAIL NEEDS TO BE ADDED.
>> I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT PURPOSE.
>> YES, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT QUITE A BIT.
WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE DOCK AND HOW BIG IT SHOULD BE AND SHOULD IT LOOK LIKE SUCH AND SUCH A CITIES? BECAUSE THERE ARE OUR SIZE, SHOULD IT LOOK LIKE THIS OTHER CITY THAT THEIR DOCK WAS SO MUCH LONGER AND HAD SO MANY THINGS IN IT.
NO, WE DID TALK ABOUT THE PURPOSE A LOT.
>> BASICALLY, WE HAVE 12 CHAPTERS IN THE APPENDIX.
I GUESS I WAS ASKED IF AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE GET EACH CHAPTER A BIT THEN SOMEBODY HAS SO CHANGES OR S.
I HAVE I HAVE ONE THAT I ALONG A LOT OF RULES.
>> ONE THING THAT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IS TRACK ANY CHANGES SO WE KNOW WHAT'S BEEN DONE?
>> WELL, HERE'S THE THING THAT I'M LOOKED AT A PF.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE THE ORIGINAL A WORD DOC.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE THAT? I THINK I SEE AGAIN I JUST GOT A PACK.
ON THIS ONE, I'M LOOKING DF I WAS CALLED.
WE'LL GO IN HERE TO WORK PLAN.
>> NO. IT'S NOT A GOOD SETTING.
>> CRAWL UP A LITTLE BIT. IT WAS RIGHT THERE ABOVE THAT.
>> PUT A WALL. I DO. A LOT OF TIMES I'LL PUT SOMETHING LIKE A WEIRD NAME OR SOMETHING IN THERE TO SEE IF ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA ON PRESENTATION.
HERE WE GO. OUR INTRODUCTION COMMENTS IS.
I DO WANT TO JUST THROW THIS OUT.
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I DON'T KNOW.IT OCCURRED TO ME WHILE I WAS REVIEWING THIS THAT SOUTH FORK RANCH IS NOT MENTIONED IN THIS DOCUMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOULD BE OR NOT.
I MEAN, IT'S A CULTURAL RATHER THAN A HISTORICAL MARKER.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WOULD- IT'S BECOMING A HISTORICAL MARKER.
>> WELL I DID WANT TO MENTION IT.
I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BE HERE.
I JUST NOTICED THAT IT WAS NOT AND SO I'LL JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE.
WHEN I SPEAK TO PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY LIVING IN THE US, IN OTHER COUNTRIES, WHEN I SAY SOUTH FORK RANCH, THEY ALL KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
I SAY, I LIVE IN THE CITY WHERE, YOU REMEMBER DALLAS AND SOUTH FORK RANCH? THEY GO, OH, YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT. SORRY, CINDY.
MY SISTER, CINDY, JUST CALLED ME.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF IF WE CAN JUST SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT SO AT LEAST IT'S IN THERE.
ORIGINALLY, I HAD SOME PICTURES OF SOUTH FORK ON THE COVER AND I WAS TOLD UNLESS THAT THAT THEY DO RELEASE ON THAT PHOTOGRAPH, I HAD TO TAKE IT OFF.
I CAN DO THAT, GET RID OF THE PHOTOGRAPH AND PUT IT BACK ON THE COVER IF THAT WOULD HELP.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED PICTURE OR WHATEVER.
BUT I THINK A SMALL MENTION WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD.
>> WELL, THERE ARE SOME PICTURES ON OUR WEBSITE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PARKED WITH THEIR CARS AND SOME OF THE POLICE OFFICERS PARKED IN FRONT OF SOUTH FORK, IN FRONT OF THE GATE SO I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE THAT PICTURE WOULD SUFFICE BUT IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE THAT WE CAN USE, THAT'D BE FINE TOO.
>> I LIKE THE PICTURES YOU HAVE.
I WASN'T LOOKING FORWARD TO BE, LIKE IT'S NOT SOMETHING I THINK ABOUT EVERY DAY.
I'VE ACTUALLY NEVER TOURED SOUTH FORK BUT IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT IT WASN'T IN THERE AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD PUT IT IN THERE OR NOT.
I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING IT MENTIONED BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO SHOWCASE IT.
I LIKE THE PICTURES YOU CHOSE.
>> I'LL JUST ADD A COMMENT IN HERE.
>> IT'S JUST SOMETHING LIKE THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> I REALLY DON'T LIKE THIS KEYBOARD.
PUT THAT IN THERE. I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. WHAT ELSE?
>> IF YOU'RE A YOUNGER PERSON, YOU DON'T KNOW SOUTH FORK.
>> IF YOU'RE A YOUNGER PERSON, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW SOUTH FORK BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME WHERE I LIVE AND I TELL THEM AROUND THE CORNER FROM SOUTH FORK.
A CERTAIN SUBSET OF PEOPLE KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND ANOTHER SUBSET DOES NOT.
>> YOU WOULD BE AMAZED AT HOW MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD KNOW ABOUT SOUTH FORK.
>> MORE KNOW ABOUT SOUTH FORK OUTSIDE OF THE US THAN THEY DO INSIDE.
[LAUGHTER] IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.
>> ANYTHING ELSE IN THE INTRODUCTION? I THINK IT [INAUDIBLE] SOUTH FORK SEARCH [INAUDIBLE].
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>> I WAS IN THE [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
>> [INAUDIBLE] WHITE ROCK [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE WERE PART OF THE BLACK LAND PRAIRIE.
IT WAS IN THE BLACK LAND PRAIRIE, WHICH, IT'S A PRETTY BIG AREA BECAUSE MOST OF IT'S BEING USED UP NOW.
>> I'M GOING TO ASSUME I MADE THIS SUBJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THE ISTS, EVERYTHING, ARE ALL CORRECTLY LAID OUT. [INAUDIBLE]
>> IT'S JUST NIT PICKY, IT'S NOT REALLY A VISION STATEMENT.
MAYBE WE NEED TO RETHINK WHAT THAT TITLE IS.
IF IT'S GOING TO BE A VISION STATEMENT THEN IT NEEDS TO BE A VISION STATEMENT, AND THOSE ARE VERY TIME CONSUMING TO ACTUALLY CREATE.
THAT'S JUST A NIT PICKY COMMENT.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE AN IDEA, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO REWRITE THIS DOCUMENT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE THAT WILL STIMULATE SOMEBODY ELSE TO THINK OF SOMETHING.
>> WE WENT THROUGH A WHOLE VISION STATEMENT.
>> IS THE COUNCIL WRITING EXERCISE.
>> ISN'T THAT HERE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE WHOLE THING IS THE STATEMENT?
>> THE ONLY COMMENT I HAD ON THAT WAS IN PARAGRAPH 3 THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT, WILL PROVIDE.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER JUST TO SAY PROVIDES.
>> INSTEAD OF SAYING IT WILL PROVIDE, SAY IT PROVIDES.
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PROVIDE, PROVIDES.>> GOING OUT [INAUDIBLE] WRITE A LOT OF, CALL THE AUTHORITY.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THE [INAUDIBLE] GOVERNMENT CHAPTERS ARE ALL CORRECT HERE.
MY FAMILY MOVED TO [INAUDIBLE] FEBRUARY [INAUDIBLE] PART OF [INAUDIBLE] WE GO OVER THE OUTREACH AND [INAUDIBLE] SURVEY.
>> I HAD A COMMENT ON THAT ONE THERE.
WHAT DO YOU DO WITH [INAUDIBLE]? YOU WOULD ADD?
>> WHAT DO YOU LIKE MOST ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] KEEP TRAFFIC AMBULANCES, LOCATION.
>> [INAUDIBLE] 504 TOP OF THAT PAR.
>> WHAT'S OUR AVERAGE BUILD VALUE?
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>> MAYBE LOOK AT SOME OF THIS, YOU SEE THE WEBSITE AT LEAST.
>> ARE THEY SMALL VALUES ON THE WEBSITE?
>> NO, I'M JUST SAYING [INAUDIBLE] PROBABLY THE CAGE. [INAUDIBLE]
>> WELL, I'VE GOT [INAUDIBLE] HOUSEHOLD.
>> HOUSEHOLD. YOU JUST WANT TO SAY [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD THERE WAS THE SOURCE FOR THE POPULATION IN DECEMBER OF 2023.
THAT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THAT ON THERE.
>> COME FROM NORTH TEXAS [INAUDIBLE] THE POPULATION.
>> WHICH NUMBER ARE YOU [OVERLAPPING].
>> [INAUDIBLE] THE POPULATIONS.
>> NO, THEY CAME FROM US, THE CITY.
BUT, OF COURSE, WE COULD CHANGE IT TO OCTOBER OF 2024 OR WHENEVER THIS THING GETS APPROVED, THAT NUMBER SHOULD PROBABLY CHANGE TO THE CURRENT NUMBER.
>> HOW DO WE KNOW? BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN COUNT WATER METERS BUT WE CAN'T COUNT [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE CAN TAKE IT OFF THE WATER METER SO WE WHAT'S THE AVERAGE SIZE.
>> BUT IT RANGES FROM 1 TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE'S A FORMULA FOR THAT.
>> WELL, DO WE WANT TO USE A FORMULA OR DO WE JUST WANT TO PICK A NUMBER AT THE END OF 2024? THAT'S A QUESTION.
>> I KNOW I SAW ONE FIGURE. [INAUDIBLE]
>> CODE SENDS OUT CENSUS REQUESTS, THEY GET INPUT FROM US.
>> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? WE INCLUDE SMT BECAUSE SOME OF OUR PROPERTY,
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OBVIOUS OBJECT LAND IS SMT.>> BUT SINCE WE'RE NOT ALLOWING NEW SMT DEVELOPMENTS, SHOULD WE STIPULATE SOMETHING?
>> [INAUDIBLE] ISN'T IT STATED LATER ON THAT ALL NEW DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO BE.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S THE LAND SO I THINKNIT'S [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT WAS TAKING ON BASICALLY THE ZONING LAND. [INAUDIBLE]
>> DO WE NEED TO MENTION THE NEWEST SENATE BILL WITH REGARD TO THIS? I HAVE NO IDEA.
>> I THINK THERE'S SOME [OVERLAPPING].
>> WELL, I THINK IT'S SENATE BILL 2038, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY FROM SEPTEMBER OF 2023 CHANGES.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE IT IN HERE.
IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME, THOUGH.
IT'S WHERE SOMEONE WHO IS IN ETG CAN ASK TO BE OUT OF THE ETG, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CLASSIFIED, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ANOTHER LAND USE. I HAVE NO IDEA.
>> WELL, IS THAT THE ONE THAT YOU CAN'T FORCE?
>> THAT'S WHERE THEY CANNOT [INAUDIBLE]
>> HOW I WISH WE MENTIONED THAT HERE.
>> THEY FIND IT PREMATURE AND PUT IT IN THERE.
>> THEN THAT MAY CHANGE BACK. THAT'S THE POINT.
>> THE CITY IS FIGHTING BACK. [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE CAN MAKE A WHOLE OTHER BOOK ABOUT THAT.
>> I WILL SAY WHEREVER DEVELOPER MOVES AROUND [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE ALL UNDER WATER AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND SO [INAUDIBLE].
>> I WAS QUESTIONING THE LAST PARAGRAPH ON HERE. I'M QUESTIONING IT.
>> I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING.
I'M FINE WITH QUESTIONING IT AND SENDING IT FORWARD WITH IT ON THERE FOR THE COUNSEL TO LOOK AT BUT I'M NOT SURE.
IT'S A NEGATIVE FOCUS, I DON'T KNOW.
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>> IS THERE MAYBE A FEW OF THE AREAS LIKE THIS IN THERE? IF WE LOOK AT OTHER TOP PLANTS, SOME OF THE ONES THAT WERE [INAUDIBLE] SIDES THAT WERE DONE BY THIRD PARTY GROUPS, A NUMBER OF THEM BASICALLY, THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF NEGATIVITY IN THE TOP PLANTS.
BASICALLY THIS IS PROBABLY TO IDENTIFY NEGATIVES THAT EXISTED WITHIN THE CITY, WITHIN THE TOP PLANTS [INAUDIBLE] THE CITY TO BE ACTIVE TO ENSURE DIRECTION.
>> I THINK [INAUDIBLE] GRANDFATHER [INAUDIBLE] OR SOMETHING.
WE HAVE THE PROBLEMS THAT THERE MAY BE MORE OF A POSITIVE STATEMENT AS TO THE POSITIVE.
>> I GUESS THE PREVIOUS PARAGRAPH TALKS ABOUT HOW WE HAVE ORDINANCES FOR WEEDS AND OVERGROWN GRASS IN PARTICULAR.
THE OTHERS, I UNDERSTAND ARE LARGER PROBLEMS THAT MAYBE SHOULD STAY ON THERE, THE SILT BUILD-UP AND THE DITCH MAINTENANCE.
BUT IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR THOSE THINGS, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT SHOULD BE IN THERE IF WE'RE PROPERLY ENFORCING OUR ORDINANCES.
THAT'S WHY IT GOT MY ATTENTION.
>> WELL, I KNOW WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ADDRESSING THE OVERGROWN GRASS AND WEEDS HERE ON [INAUDIBLE] AND I'M SURE THE CITY COUNCIL AFTER THAT DID TOO.
>> THEN MAYBE IT SHOULD STAY THERE.
>> DECIDED THAT. NOW, WE GOT THE CURRENT SUBDIVISIONS [INAUDIBLE].
>> WELL, I NOTICE THAT THERE'S SOME SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE NAMED THAT DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF LOTS LISTED.
LIKE CRAPE MYRTLE SAYS XX LOTS.
>> I GOT ALL OF THESE [INAUDIBLE] AND WHEREVER WAS LISTED WERE COUNTED, EVEN IF IT'S NOT LISTED.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD FIND OUT.
>> UNLESS YOU BASICALLY GOT ALL THE MAPS OUT AND START LOOKING AT ALL THE FLATS.
>> THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON CRAPE MYRTLE HILL ARE MY NEIGHBORS.
>> WHICH IS WHAT THE COM [INAUDIBLE]
>> BECAUSE THERE'S FOUR NEIGHBORS ON THAT CRAPE MYRTLE HILL.
I KNOW THERE'S FOUR HOUSES THERE.
OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WOULDN'T BE ON COMMON CAD.
>> WHAT WE DO [INAUDIBLE], WE DESIGN THIS THING IN THERE.
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OH, WHERE IT SAYS XX?>> I DON'T KNOW DOUBLE PARK [INAUDIBLE]
>> SOMEBODY BEEN WATCHING [INAUDIBLE]. WITH THAT BEING SAID, [INAUDIBLE]
>> KING'S CROSSING, PHASE 5 FROM THE BOTTOM THERE.
>> THAT SHOULD BE, YOU SAID PHASE 5?
>> I DID A LITTLE FOOTNOTE ON THERE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKEN FROM [INAUDIBLE].
>> WELL, IT WAS TAKEN FROM THE FLAT.
DID YOU ASSUME THAT ON THE FLAT?
>> THEN IT'S EITHER LISTED, THE NUMBER OF BLOCKS, OR YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE AND COUNT EACH ONE. [LAUGHTER]
THE MAP IS PRETTY ACCURATE DUE TO DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY.
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I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, DO WE EVER HAVE [INAUDIBLE] USE OUR MAPS AGAINST THIS [INAUDIBLE]? I JUST SAY THAT BUT DO WE EVER HAVE A MISTAKE ON A MAP WHERE THEY SAY, WELL, THIS OVER HERE IS [INAUDIBLE].>> THERE'S I THINK A ZONING MAP THAT WE'VE GOT IN HERE, IF YOU GO RIGHT BY SQUARE ON ST. SQUARE DOWN THERE, THERE'S A SECTION OF THAT SHOW THE ANNEX.
I TALKED TO BRUCE ABOUT THAT AS OF WHAT WAS ON [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE HAD IT.
>> OH, REALLY? WE HAD AN ISSUE.
>> IT SHOWS THAT THE ANNEX THAT IT WAS REFER BACK TO THE CITY THAT THE MAP WAS PUBLISHED AND IT ALSO SHOWS THE [INAUDIBLE].
THE QUESTION ALSO BEGUN HOW OFTEN SHOULD WE BE UPDATING MAPS THAT ENDED UP [INAUDIBLE]
>> YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS, WHENEVER YOU DO THESE KIND OF DOCUMENTS, YOU WANT TO MAKE REFERENCE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO COPY THE TEXT, IF YOU'RE COPYING THE STEPS.
IT SATISFIES TO HAVE THE MAP, SO THERE'S PEOPLE CAN SEE.
BUT THEN KNOWING THAT IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE [INAUDIBLE] MAP, THE CITY SIDE OR SOMETHING [INAUDIBLE]
>> FUTURE, THOUGH OF CAPACITY IN ORDER TO PUT SPECIALS MEASURES.
>> DAVIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE FAR FUTURE [INAUDIBLE].
>> I KNOW IT'S MENTIONED IN THE ZONING WITH THE ZONING MAPS BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE CITY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
DOES THAT NEED TO BE STATED HERE?
>> BUT NOTHING ELSE IS ZONED THAT WAY.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT SHOULD BE STATED.
>> CAN YOU MAKE [INAUDIBLE]. UNDER THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THE EIGHT-ANCHOR TRACK, I KNOW THIS IS ALL GOING TO CHANGE SO IF WE WAIT TOO MUCH LONGER ON THIS ONE [LAUGHTER] TO REWRITE THE WHOLE THING.
BUT IT'S UP FOR SALE, CORRECT?
>> BUT THAT'S LIMITED TO WHAT CAN BE DONE THERE BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT CAN BE DONE THERE.
>> IT ALL CARRIES THROUGH THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, WHOEVER BUYS IT HAS TO ABIDE BY THAT AGREEMENT.
>> SO THEY CAN PUT A ROCK ABOVE SITE [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER]
>> IT'S VERY LIMITED LIKE NON-INTRUSIVE OFFICE SPACE, THE OFFICE SUITES, THAT KIND OF THING.
THERE'S REALLY NO PROVISIONS FOR STORES, OR RETAIL, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AS WELL.
IT'S LOWKEY COMMERCIAL STUFF SO IT'S NOT IMPACTING THE RESIDENTS AROUND THERE.
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>> YOU GOT THE SECOND HERE TO MAKE THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] FOR A WHOLE WORK.
PROVIDED IN THAT WE'RE BEHIND THE ASUV.
>> IS THAT RIGHT? I ALWAYS THOUGHT WE HAD NINE.
>> THE TWO OPENINGS THROUGH THE [INAUDIBLE]
>> MAYBE THEY CAN JUST UPDATE THAT ONE BEFORE IT GOES TO A FINAL, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS.
>> THEY'RE EIGHT, AND THEN I'VE SHOWED THE NINTH OF THE SLIDE THAT WE HAVE, THERE'S THAT SLOPE THAT'S RIGHT THERE PROVISIONAL.
>> BUT ALSO [INAUDIBLE] IS AFFECTING THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
>> COULD BUY APARTMENT FOR THAT EIGHT BACK.
>> YOU WERE CHANGED WITH A SINGULAR SERVICE?
>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS [INAUDIBLE].
MODERN FACILITY SERVES FACILITIES
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OR THE SERVE FACILITATE THAT.>> THE ONLY ISSUE WORTH BULLETING.
>> THAT WAS WAY TOO MANY. [LAUGHTER].
WORTH DEMAND AND WORTH A BULLET THAT'S ALL YOU HEAR, ALL RIGHT?
>> ARE WE STILL DOING THE LEASE AGREEMENT ON THE POLICE VEHICLES? THAT LAST PARAGRAPH, IS THAT STILL CURRENT? THAT JUST NEED TO BE EDITED AT SOME POINT.
>> THE LAST PARAGRAPH ON THIS PAGE.
I DON'T THINK IT CAN BE EDITED YET, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE BUT IT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED IF THAT CHANGES DURING THIS PROCESS.
>> YEAH, I WOULD NOT [INAUDIBLE].
HOW LONG ARE YOU PLANNING FOR [INAUDIBLE]?
>> THROUGH REMARKING THAT [INAUDIBLE] MARKET THE LAST PARAGRAPH IS FOR [INAUDIBLE] PUT WORDS.
>> WE HAD ONE POLICE OFFICER BUT WE HAD TWO [INAUDIBLE] JERRY SMITH.
>> HE MAY HAVE ANY [INAUDIBLE] TRAILS AND OPEN SPACES.
>> THERE'S A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT COMMENT HERE IN THIS THIRD PARAGRAPH, I GUESS IT IS, AND MAYBE IT SHOULD BE BOLD FACED. I DON'T KNOW.
THE "ALTHOUGH LATE IN THE GAME, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD INCLUDE SUFFICIENT OPEN GREEN SPACES FOR THE COMMUNITY." THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
IT'S A BIG ONE BECAUSE THERE IS A LOW PERCENTAGE OF OPEN SPACE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE WE SHOULD BOLD FACE THAT. I'M NOT SURE.
I'M GLAD THAT SENTENCE IS THERE.
I JUST HOPE IT DOESN'T GET LOST SINCE IT'S ON PAGE 25.
>> I CAN REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE JUST HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT AND THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY HAS LARGE OPEN SPACES [LAUGHTER] AND LAND.
HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU NEED [INAUDIBLE]
>> BUT WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS, SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO EXERCISE, AND PLAY, WALK DOGS,
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YOUNG CHILDREN ON BIKES, GETTING IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH 50 MILE AN HOUR ROADS.I THINK IT'S A SIGNIFICANT STATEMENT, AND I'M GLAD IT'S THERE, AND I WOULD [LAUGHTER] LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IT SOMEHOW.
BUT MAYBE I'LL JUST STAY ENGAGED AND MAKE SURE THAT GETS DISCUSSED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
LEAVING MY NEIGHBORHOOD MEANS GOING ON TO A VERY FAST ROAD.
WITH SMALL CHILDREN AND DOGS, THAT'S CHALLENGING, AND I JUST LIKE THIS STATEMENT.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT, AND WONDER WHAT WE SHOULD OR MAY DO AS PROPOSALS SUBMITTED FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, TO ENCOURAGE THERE TO BE SOME OPEN SPACE IN THERE, OR SIDEWALKS.
>> I'M GOING TO TELL HER RIGHT NOW, DEVELOPERS DON'T LIKE THAT.
>> YEAH. THE QUESTION ALWAYS BECOMES, WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN IT.
>> WELL, YOU DO BECAUSE YOU WANT DEVELOPMENT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO RUN THEM OFF IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY MAKING THESE LOTS BIGGER THAN THEY WANT TO, AND IF THEY HAVE TO DO OPEN SPACE ON TOP OF THAT, THEY'D LOSE MONEY. THEY DON'T LIKE THAT.
>> I KNOW OVER THE YEARS WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE.
I SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT TOO THAT [INAUDIBLE]
>> YEAH. I REMEMBER ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WERE APPROVING, AND HE WAS GOING TO PUT IN A TRAIL ALONG THE BACK PORTION OF HIS PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
[LAUGHTER] BUT HE CLAIMED THAT THE HOA WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
>> THAT'S ANOTHER THING TOO. IF THEY DO THOSE OPEN SPACES THEN THERE'S MAINTENANCE WITH THAT.
>> HOAS TYPICALLY DON'T WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT STUFF.
THEN IT ENDS UP EITHER GOING INTO DISTRICT [INAUDIBLE] TERRIBLE.
OR THE CITY WOULD END UP TAKING IT OVER AND HAVING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTAINING THAT.
>> ALTHOUGH I NOTICED WARNER GROUP HAS PUT A LITTLE PARK AREA IN WHITE STONE.
>> THEN TWO, AROUND THERE WHERE THE MAXWELL CREEK GOES, ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE, OF COURSE, IT HAD TO BE, BECAUSE IT'S A FLOOD ZONE, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW THE FOLKS FROM THAT COMMUNITY TO FISH IN THERE, OR WHATEVER.
PLUS HE PLANTED A BUNCH OF PECAN TREES IN THERE.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO STAY, OR SHOULD WE JUST MOVE ON, OR WHAT?
>> I HAD A COMMENT ON THIS ONE THAT THERE WAS NO MENTION OF THE WISHING WELL THAT WAS PROVIDED BY AN EAGLE SCOUT, NOR IS THERE A PICTURE OF THE WELL.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE I WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT EAGLE SCOUT [LAUGHTER] THAT I'M MENTIONING THIS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT ITEM THAT WE ADDED TO THE PARK, AND I FELT THAT IT OUGHT TO BE AT LEAST PICTURED IN HERE, IF NOT MENTIONED, AS WELL.
WE COULD PROBABLY TAKE OUT THAT ONE WITH THE PICNIC TABLE THERE AND PUT THE WISHING WELL PICTURE IN THERE.
BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID HE PUT THE WISHING WELL IN THERE, BUT HE ALSO PUT TWO BENCHES IN THERE.
IF WE COULD DO THAT, I THINK IT'D BE BETTER THAN THE PICNIC BENCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT. I SUPPORT THAT.
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>> IS [INAUDIBLE] ON THE EAST SIDE OF [INAUDIBLE]
>> I HEARD YOU MENTIONING ABOUT THE COLLIN COUNTY OPEN SPACE PROGRAM THAT THE PARK'S BOARD COULD REQUEST.
>> I THINK IT'S UNDER [INAUDIBLE]
>> I DON'T MEAN TO TALK OUT OF TURN, BUT IF YOU WANT THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES UNDER THE CATEGORY INSTEAD OF IN THE BACK, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE WHERE YOU WANT IT.
>> DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT OF 2021.
COULD I HAVE CLARIFICATION THAT THAT MONEY WAS USED ON THAT? I WAS THINKING THAT THAT MONEY GOT ALLOCATED TO THE DUBLIN ROAD PROJECT.
IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.
I WAS THINKING THAT THAT MONEY WAS NOT USED ON THAT.
>> CORRECT. BUT BACK WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN THAT'S WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. [LAUGHTER]
>> THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED, SO IT WOULD CHANGE THE LAST END OF THAT SENTENCE.
THE SUPPLEMENTED FUNDS PART WOULD BE DELETED.
BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.
>> THAT IS TRUE. IT HASN'T BEEN ALLOCATED YET BUT WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOCATE THAT BY THE END OF THE YEAR [INAUDIBLE]
>> SHOULD WE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] RESCUE PLAN [INAUDIBLE] THAT THOSE FUNDS MIGHT BE ALLOCATED ELSEWHERE?
>> THE MAYOR IS SENDING A MESSAGE SAYING THAT SHE CAN'T HEAR ANYBODY. WE HAVE TO USE OUR MICS.
>> SHOULD WE SAY THAT THE FUNDS WERE ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO BE SUPPLEMENTED FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, BUT THOSE FUNDS MIGHT POSSIBLY BE ALLOCATED ELSEWHERE? THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT
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SIGNIFICANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE FUNDS FROM THAT ACT AS A LOT OF CITIES AND BUSINESSES DID GET THOSE FUNDS.>> WE STILL HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR BOND.
THERE'S STILL THE [INAUDIBLE] LEFT OVER FROM THAT BOND.
I DON'T KNOW THAT'S [INAUDIBLE]
>> I JUST PUT A NOTE IN HERE TO CLARIFY WHAT THE FUNDS WERE ORIGINALLY TARGETED FOR, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ULTIMATELY ALLOCATED FOR, OR USED.
>> I GOT THAT SAME PROBLEM RUSSELL.
>> LET'S NOT GET TOO MUCH INTO THAT DETAIL.
SOMEBODY WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT REALLY IS.
I GOT TO TELL YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BUGS ME A GREAT DEAL IS THAT WHEN I START READING FINANCIAL THINGS, WHEN THE FINANCIAL PEOPLE USE AN M FOR A THOUSAND AS OPPOSED TO WHEN WE USE AN M FOR A MILLION.
THEN THEY USE 1MM FOR A THOUSAND THOUSAND, A MILLION.
THE FINANCIAL PEOPLE REALLY BUG ME ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO ARCHAIC.
I LIKE JUST ONE MILLION GALLONS.
SHOULD WE PUT A PICTURE OF ONE MILLION DOLLARS? [LAUGHTER] WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON MOVING HERE.
WATER METERS. ANYTHING SPECIAL ON WATER METERS?
>> [INAUDIBLE] BACK UP TO SEWER. NO WASTEWATER? PARKER RANCH AND WHITE STONE ARE NOT ON SEWER.
>> PARKER RANCH AND WHITE STONE ARE NOT ON SEWER.
>> NO. PARKER [INAUDIBLE] AND KING'S CROSSING ARE THE ONLY ONE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS, THAT LAST ONE.
>> 99.2% OF HOMES HAVE SMART METERS.
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SO THERE'S NO SMART METER ON THE TWO INCH METERS?>> ON THOSE 17, WE HAVE TWO INCH SMART METERS, BUT THERE ARE 17 HOUSES THAT DON'T HAVE THEM TODAY.
OR ABOUT MAYBE 15 [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE GETTING THOSE REPLACED AS WE HAVE TIME.
>> WHAT'S THE COST OF ONE OF THOSE METERS?
>> THEY'RE PRETTY EXPENSIVE. THEY'RE AROUND 1,000 BUCKS.
>> THAT'S WHAT I GUESSED. THE BATTERIES IN THEM LAST HOW LONG?
>> THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LAST 15 YEARS.
>> WE'RE SEEING SOME FAILURES IN AROUND 10 YEARS THOUGH.
>> YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE BATTERY OUT, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE METER.
>> WHOSE IDEA WAS THAT? [BACKGROUND] ANYTHING THERE, WATER METERS, NATURAL GAS?
>> I HAVE A NATURAL GAS QUESTION THAT HOMES HAVE ADDED PROPANE.
HOMES ARE ALLOWED TO ADD BOTTLED GAS?
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF HOUSES THAT HAVE PROPANE.
>> I KNOW, BUT I THOUGHT THOSE WERE OUR GRANDFATHERS.
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE ALLOWED TO DO ANY NEW ONES.
>> NO. BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE NATURAL GAS. [INAUDIBLE] PROPANE.
>> WE HAD NATURAL GAS BEFORE SPRING HILL.
>> YEAH. BECAUSE WE HAD PROPANE TO BEGIN WITH, AND GOD WAS THAT EXPENSIVE.
[LAUGHTER] WE HAD A COLD WINTER ONE TIME.
YOU JUST LIKE THROW YOUR MONEY OUT THE BACK DOOR.
I'M NOT GOING TO WORRY ABOUT THAT THOUGH.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? I SEEM TO REMEMBER THINKING THIS WAS FINE.
>> HOW MUCH DO WE ACTUALLY PLAN FOR TRAFFIC? DO WE PLAN FOR TRAFFIC? OR ARE WE SO RURAL THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO? I WAS CURIOUS IF THERE ARE LARGE TRACTS OF LAND, ARE THEY ALL GOING TO HAVE ADEQUATE ROADS TO SERVICE THEM? I THINK WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE POCKETS, SOMETHING OFF OF DONNA ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LARGE THAT TRACT OF LAND IS.
IT'S A DONAHUE PROPERTY OFF OF DONNA ROAD.
>> THAT FARMLAND IN THE CORNER THERE [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S IN ENGINEERING DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
>> I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD ON THIS IN THE PAST HAVE CENTERED AROUND THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE STANDARD ROAD SIZES THAT CARRY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CUSTOMERS, IF YOU WILL, AND THAT THERE'S NO SUBDIVISION WE HAVE WHERE WE SAY, EVERYBODY GOES TO WORK AT 7:00 A.M. AND EVERYBODY LEAVES, AND THERE'S A BIG TRAFFIC JAM, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THAT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN AROUND HERE.
THEN THE BIG FEED ROADS, OR THE BIG MAIN ARTERIES ARE PRETTY STANDARD SIZE ROADS.
>> SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN GET TO THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES EASILY.
>> RIGHT. THOSE ARE ALL PLANNED FOR THE CONNECTIONS FROM CITY TO CITY, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
[LAUGHTER] HOW DO YOU SPELL MAINTENANCE? NOW I CAN'T EVEN SPELL IT.
>> I DO KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT. MY KEYBOARD WAS NOT BACK SPACING THOUGH, FOR SOME REASON.
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I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHAT THE CITY OF PLANO WAS DOING BY GRINDING ALL THE CONCRETE.>> DID YOU SEE ALL THOSE SPACES WHERE THEY WOULD GRIND THE CONCRETE LIKE NEAR AN INTERSECTION, AND STUFF LIKE THAT?
>> SO THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA BINDING AREA WHERE IT GOES BACK TO CONCRETE, SO THEY CAN FILL THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I CAN SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE STOPPING AND STARTING ON IT WHERE IT'S INTERESTING.
>> ON THAT CHART THAT'S RIGHT THERE, WE CAN TAKE AESTHETICA PLACE OUT THERE.
>> THAT FIRST ONE, AESTHETICA PLACE.
>> I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT ANYWAY.
>> IT'S AT THE END OF SPRING HILL ESTATES.
>> IT'S NOT CONCRETE, 473 FEET LONG?
>> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE CURTIS ROAD, THE ONE THAT SAYS TWO LANE TO ONE LARGE [INAUDIBLE]
>> [INAUDIBLE] THERE. [INAUDIBLE] TWO LANES TO ONE LARGE [INAUDIBLE]
>> TO ONE LANE. [LAUGHTER] I GOT YOU.
WE HAD A LITTLE EXTRA SPACE THERE.
>> BY THE TIME COUNCIL GETS THIS CHURCH LANE IT CAN BE EDITED.
>> CHURCH LANE CAN BE EDITED BY THE TIME COUNCIL GETS THIS.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO START WORKING ON CHURCH LANE.
IT'S ALWAYS THAT QUESTION, DO YOU SPELL IT OUT, OR DO YOU PUT A PERIOD OR NOT? STATE, COUNTY, AND PRIVATE ROADS.
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OKAY?>> SO WHO WAS CURTIS ANYWAY? WHY DO THEY GET SO MANY STREETS?
>> HE WAS A NICE MAN. JOE CURTIS.
>> THERE'S A CHANGE UP THERE UNDER.
>> GREGORY LANE IS COMING OUT.
>> GREGORY LANE COMES OUT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT PRIVATE?
>> CHANGES TO MAXWELL CREEK COURT.
>> THE NAME OF THAT ROAD CHANGED.
>> [INAUDIBLE] AT THE END OF THAT OLD GREGORY LANE [INAUDIBLE] GREGORY.
>> DO WE SAY PARTIAL, OR WE GET RID OF THAT TOO?
>> [INAUDIBLE] THEY GOT TO BUY THEIR OWN SIGN.
>> [INAUDIBLE] DIRT ROAD? [INAUDIBLE] GREGORY?
>> NO, IT USED TO BE GREGORY ALSO.
WHEN THEY WENT TO GET AN ADDRESS FOR THAT NEW HOUSE, THE COUNTY MADE US CHANGE IT.
THEY SAID IT WAS TOO SIMILAR TO THE OTHER [INAUDIBLE]
>> I'M NOT GOING TO TRY AND FORMAT THE CELLS AND TABLES RIGHT HERE.
>> IS THIS SPELLED CORRECTLY? WIND REAM? I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THAT IS.
>> OKAY. SIGNAGE. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT HOW WE PAINT STUFF ON THE ROAD, RIGHT? [LAUGHTER]
>> I'VE SENT THEM SEVERAL EMAILS ON THAT. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT STILL.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT PAVING, OR ABOUT PRINTING ON THE STREET THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRAFFIC SIGNALS YET?
>> THE ONLY ONES WE GOT ARE THE [INAUDIBLE]
>> OKAY. DRAINAGE. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME DRAINAGE.
>> DOES THE CITY OF PARKER USE THE PLANO DRAINAGE SOMETHING?
>> YEAH. THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE IN HERE.
>> THAT'S OUR GOVERNING DOCUMENT FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT.
>> [INAUDIBLE] YOU SHOULD PROBABLY MENTION IT IN THERE.
>> DO YOU WANT THAT REFERENCE IN THERE?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED IT IN THERE BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THAT COULD CHANGE.
>> YEAH. I THINK TALKING ABOUT DRAINAGE IS JUST AN OVERVIEW.
>> ANY DEVELOPERS THAT COME IN THAT'S PART OF THEIR PROCEDURES AND [INAUDIBLE]
>> RIGHT. IT JUST BECOMES A REFERENCE THAT YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.
OKAY. GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AFFECTING DRAINAGE.
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I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANY.>> IS THAT LAST STATEMENT TRUE?
>> ETJ RUNOFF. HECK, RUNOFF FROM OTHER CITIES INTO OUR CITY.
>> THAT'S A PRETTY TRUE STATEMENT. IT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH.
SOMETIMES THEY JUST GET STUFF RUN THROUGH THEM.
LET'S SEE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD STUFF, RIGHT?
ANYBODY HAVE ANY ARGUMENT WITH OBJECTIVES AND SOME OF THE GOALS, OR ANYTHING?
>> [INAUDIBLE] WAS WANTING TO PUT THAT COM COUNTY OPEN SPACE PROGRAM [INAUDIBLE] TO START LOOKING INTO THAT.
THERE IT IS. ACQUISITION OF GREEN SPACE AND TRAILS.
>> IT'S ALSO UNDER PAGE 50, THE PROPOSED PARK TRAILS AND OPEN SPACES, THE PLAN.
WE COULD JUST SAY REFERENCE THAT.
>> CAN I TAKE THE QUESTION MARK OFF REST ROOMS?
>> THOSE ARE ALL IDEAS. WHETHER THEY GET DONE OR NOT, IT'S A DIFFERENT [INAUDIBLE] BUT IT'S ALL [INAUDIBLE] COACH ME THROUGH.
IS THERE WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT SOME.
>> SHE SAID THERE WAS SOMETHING ON PAGE 50?
>> YEAH, THE PROPOSED PARK TRAILS AND OPEN SPACES PLAN.
>> WE CAN JUST REFERENCE THAT.
>> THIS IS WATER DEPARTMENT FACILITIES.
CAN'T THEY JUST GET AN OLD MILLION GALLON TOP AND SET IT SOMEWHERE AND THEN HAVE EVERYBODY WORK INSIDE THAT? [LAUGHTER] THAT WOULD BE A REALLY NEAT ARCHITECTURAL THING.
OR CUT IT IN HALF AND TURN IT OVER.
>> TODAY HERE ON THE EARLY WATER TOWER.
>> IT IS GOING TO BE NEEDED ON CREDIT [OVERLAPPING].
>> REPORTED, USE THE WATER TOWER [INAUDIBLE]. WE BUILD HOUSES OUT OF THE STORAGE.
>> SEE SOME OF THAT WATER [INAUDIBLE].
>> HAVE TO GET THEIR TIRES [INAUDIBLE].
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[LAUGHTER]>> THE COURT'S DIRECTLY OUT OF THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> CURTIS LIVES IN LOS [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE]
>> AS YOU SHOWN ON THE HISTORY.
>> THE BUDGET HERE IS STILL [INAUDIBLE]
>> I HAD SOMETHING ON SLIDE 48 BUT I CAN'T TELL WHAT'S ON THERE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] START WITH [INAUDIBLE], THE NEXT ONE.
TWO OF THE CLIPS THROUGH THE DOUBLE DRUGS. ONE LIKE [INAUDIBLE]
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD A MEETING ON THAT THIS AFTERNOON.
THE SOUTH PORTION, SOUTH FROM BETSY SOUTH TO THE CITY LIMITS, THAT'S THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.
THOSE LINES OUT THERE ARE TERRIBLE AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING THOSE.
EVERYTHING. THEY'RE MADE UNDER THE PATCHES.
I THINK THERE'S SOME BALL GUM ON THERE AND SOME DUCT TAPE AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
YOU GOT IT? YOU PICK THEM UP THERE, THERE'S SOME MORE AC LINES, SO HOW GREAT PVC.
THEY'RE TWO INCH TO SIX INCH DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW.
WE WANT TO REPLACE IT WITH AN EIGHT-INCH LINE, GET RID OF ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.
>> SINCE INCEPTION, SOME OF IT.
>> EARLY JUST WHENEVER THEY FIRST PUT IT IN.
[INAUDIBLE] PORTION THEY ALLOWED IN.
>> I THINK IS THAT THERE ARE FIVE [INAUDIBLE].
[01:45:03]
>> THERE'S SOMETHING IT SAYS, SOMETHING ABOUT THE CITY WILL REVIEW.
>> THE CITY WILL REVIEW AND ADDRESS PROGRESS ON THE CIP ON AN ONGOING, EXCEPT THAT'S NOT QUITE WHAT IT SAYS.
IF YOU'LL FIND THAT PAGE THAT SAYS IT'S SLIDE 48, THE CITY WILL REVIEW AND ADDRESS PROGRESS ON THE CIP, ET CETERA, AND FIX THE ISSUE THERE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] TALKING CAPITAL FOR BUYOUT.
>> NO, IT'S NOT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT WE FILED IN [INAUDIBLE].
IT'S INTERESTING THAT THAT'S THE NORM.
>> I HAVE A [INAUDIBLE] ALL AT ALL COST.
>> WELL HELP US OUT [INAUDIBLE].
>> ARE WE THROUGH WITH OUR BUDGET?
>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE MAPS IN HERE.
THE TRAIL MAP, THE [INAUDIBLE] TRAIL MAP [INAUDIBLE].
>> WELL, WE JUST WON'T FORGET ABOUT THAT. [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT'S WHATEVER MAP YOU WANT.
>> THE ONLY REAL TRAIL WE HAVE IS A PRESERVE OF [INAUDIBLE].
ORIGINALLY, THE CITY WAS LOOKING AT THE SUBDIVISION [INAUDIBLE].
>> NO, IT HAS TO HOOK UP WITH COLLIN COUNTY.
>> THE CONNECTIONS MOVE BETWEEN THE CITY.
>> RIGHT NOW, THE MAP THAT WE HAVE IS 2015, I BELIEVE, OR MAYBE EARLIER THAN THAT, AND HAS TRAILS GOING THROUGH SUBDIVISIONS OF PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
>> THAT WE HAD [OVERLAPPING] IN THE PAST.
>> I'M GOING TO GUESS [INAUDIBLE] PUT TOGETHER.
WE CAN PUT THE OLD ONE IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S SO BAD.
[LAUGHTER] WE REQUIRE TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT [INAUDIBLE].
I'M SPEAKING OUT OF TURN [OVERLAPPING].
>> [INAUDIBLE] THAT FOR THE SPACE.
I CAN SEE THERE'S A MAP [INAUDIBLE].
>> BY THE WAY, I'VE BEEN SAYING [INAUDIBLE], HE DOES A LITTLE ARCHITECTURE STRUCTURE.
THAT HE'S AT HOME, THAT HE BUILD THE BUILDINGS HERE.
THE RIGHT SIDE IS AFFECTED MOVED IN MAINLY [INAUDIBLE] IN THE WORDS THAT ARE
[01:50:04]
OUT [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE WORDS COMING OUT.>> WELL, TAKE THIS AND SEND IT OUT.
>> YOU WANT TO PUT THIS ON THERE.
>> WHAT HAPPENS WHEN [INAUDIBLE]?
>> WE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING HERE.
THEN IT'LL GO AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS GOT ANY, TAKE IT HOME, DIGEST IT, COME BACK, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT ONE MORE TIME IF THERE'S ANYTHING ANYBODY ELSE HAS [OVERLAPPING].
LET ME GIVE YOU THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. DO WE MAKE THE CORRECTIONS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WOULD SAY YES. IN THAT WAY, WE'LL HAVE THE HEARING AND THEN FORWARD ON WHATEVER THAT [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE'LL DO THAT. OF THAT HEARING AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKING [INAUDIBLE]
>> THIS IS A WORKSHOP AND WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING? IS THAT WHERE WE'RE AT?
>> TODAY, WE WERE LIKE THIS [INAUDIBLE], EVERYONE GETTING THEIR HEAD AT HOW, LET'S SAY HERE, AND THEN GET A GOOD COPY OF IT HERE.
>> AS FAST AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS, I'M CONFIDENT BY ONE MORE MEETING THAT WE CAN BE DONE.
>> WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE THE HEARING.
>> BECAUSE THE CLIENTS BRING IN THE TOURNAMENTS.
>> IF THERE'S ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THEN WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.
>> YOU'RE SAYING THIS IT TO US?
>> THIS TO HER NOW WHILE [INAUDIBLE]
WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA?
[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
NO? ANYTHING, ANY NEWS, FUTURE ITEMS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE? WELL, YOU GOT THE MEETING COMING UP ON THE 22ND FOR ZONING AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A FLAT COMING UP.KING'S CROSSING PHASE 5, THERE WERE TWO LOTS LEFT OUT FOR A WALMART.
THEY'RE READY TO FLAT THOSE LOTS SO THEY CAN SUBMIT THAT WALMART.
ANY LOT BLOCK NUMBERS BILL TO SUBMIT THAT WALMART, THAT WILL BE COMING IN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
THEY'VE GOT TO SUBMIT ON THIS MIDDLE DATE NOW , GOT THE [INAUDIBLE].
[01:55:06]
>> THIS ZONING CHANGE, IS THAT FOR SOUTH FORK?
>> ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT SOUTH FORK.
SOMEBODY WAS TELLING ME THAT THEY SOLD SMALL LOTS OVER THERE.
>> I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
>> I THINK THEY SOLD IT FOR $1 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> I'M PRETTY SURE. IT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
>> CAN THEY DO ANYTHING WITH THAT PROPERTY?
>> NO. HERE'S THE THING, IS THAT MY MOM PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR AND I KNOW SHE HAD ONE OF THE ORIGINAL SQUARE INCH DEEDS AND I'M PRETTY SURE I HAVE THAT STILL.
IN FACT, I THINK I WAS GOING TO FRAME IT, IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO.
BUT I'M THINKING MY GRANDMOTHER MIGHT HAVE HAD ONE TOO OR SOMETHING.
[LAUGHTER] I KNOW IN THE FAMILY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM, PROBABLY. WE WERE THINKING OF.
>> IS ON THE TOP OF THE DEVELOPER'S [INAUDIBLE].
>> BUILDING A CEMENT PLANT ON THEM.
>> WELL, THOSE WILL BE SOME REALLY TINY HOMES.
>> EXACTLY. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN AT 19:01.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.