[CALL TO ORDER]
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>>I HEREBY CONVENE THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 6TH, 2024 AT 4:01 P.M AND I WILL ASK MR. OLSON, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE UNDER WORKSHOP, IT SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON A PROPOSED TAX RATE.
IF THERE IS ANY VOTE, IT WILL HAPPEN IN A COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WILL IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW THE WORKSHOP.
WE WILL BE GOING A LITTLE FASTER THAN NORMAL, BECAUSE WE MAY LOSE OUR QUORUM AT SOME POINT, SO WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE, SO BEAR WITH US.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO GRANT TO START US ON THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
[WORKSHOP]
>> MAYOR COUNSEL, FIRST, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GO OVER THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK AND THE DOCUMENTS WERE SENT TO YOU ON FRIDAY.
THE BUDGET WAS PREPARED, THE GENERAL FUND USING THE DINIMS TAX RATE OF 30.31, 0.43 $0.09.
IT IS A BALANCED BUDGET OF THE GENERAL FUND AND WATER FUND.
AS FAR AS THE GENERAL FUND CHANGES FROM LAST MEETING TO THIS ROOM, THE SUPPLEMENTALS HAVE BEEN ADDED INTO THE LINE ITEM BUDGET, AND THAT WOULD BE THE TEAM WATERS, COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, THE TRANSFER TO THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, AND THE TRANSFER TO THE STREET CONSTRUCTION FUND.
SOME OF THOSE SUPPLEMENTALS HAVE CHANGED AS FAR AS THE TMRS COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, WE ELIMINATED THE RETROACTIVE OPTION ON THERE, WHICH HAS A SAVINGS OF $19,383.
THEN WE INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF THE TRANSFER TO THE STREET CONSTRUCTION FUND FOR 500,000 TO $661,114, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL $161,114, AND THAT IS WHAT WE USED TO KIND OF BALANCE THE BUDGET.
AS FAR AS THE WATER FUND, THE SUPPLE BILLS WERE ADDED INTO THE ITEM BUDGET BRIDGE AS WELL, WHICH WAS THE TMRS COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT AND TRANSFERS TO THE UTILITY CONSTRUCTOR FUND.
WE ALSO DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, DISCUSSED ADDED BUNDS FOR CENSUS SOFTWARE UPGRADE FOR 50,000, AND THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED IN THE LINE ITEM BUDGET AS WELL.
A CHANGES TO THE SUPPLEMENTALS IN THE WATER FUND.
WE ELIMINATE THE RETROACTIVE OPTION ON THE C THAT SAY $7,747, AND WE INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF THE TRANSFER TO THE CONSTRUCTION FUND, ABOUT $28,355.
WE USE THAT TO BALANCE THE WATER FUND PROJECT.
THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
WE ADDED THE SUPPLEMENTALS INTO THE LOTTO BUDGET THERE AS WELL AND THOSE FIVE SUPPLEMENTALS WERE REPLACING THE 2014 CHEVY TAHOE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, REPLACING THE 2015 ALFA AND PUBLIC WORKS, REPLACING 2016 OR 0.50 SYNDICAF AND PUBLIC WORKS, REPLACING 2016 0.50 CREW CAP PUBLIC WORKS, AND PAYING OFF POLICE VEHICLES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES.
I KNOW WE DIDN'T THE LAST MEETING WAS CUT SHORT, SO THERE WERE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS AS FAR AS FUNDS, NOT PARK, BUT WE'LL DO PARK HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT.
I GET QUESTIONS OVER ANY OTHER FUNDS OR ANY OF THESE CHANGES. I ASK TIME.
>> JUST A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATE ON THE POLICE PAYOFF.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE FOR THE AUDIENCE SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING THAT?
>> SURE. RATHER THAN CONTINUE TO PAY INTEREST, VEHICLES THAT RELEASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT PAID OFF AND INTEREST, AND SOME MAINTENANCE COSTS ALSO MONTH BASIS.
SALE BY IN THE LONG RUN PURCHASE VEHICLES NOW.
>> WHICH WOULD CIRCUMVENT THE CURRENT SITUATION THAT WE HAVE NOW FOR A FUTURE ITEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS?
>> AT THE END OF OUR LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE THERE WERE STILL SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TMRS. DO YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS IF SO PLEASE ASK THEM. GO AHEAD.
>> I MEAN, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST DO IS BETTER UNDERSTAND THE TMRS. IF ANY ADDITIONAL DATA COULD BE SHARED IN TERMS OF,
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HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO SOCIAL SECURITY, IN TERMS OF THE RATES AND I GUESS HOW DOES IT CALCULATE OUT IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF TMRS PER EMPLOYEE OR THE ACTUAL PERCENTAGE OF THEIR WAGES OVER TIME, IF YOU COULD JUST TRY TO BREAK IT DOWN TO, I GUESS A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.>> AS FAR AS THE COST OF A LIVING ADJUSTMENT, SO IT'S A 70% ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT BASED ON CPI.
WHATEVER THE CPI IS THAT YEAR, 70% OF THAT IS WHAT THEY USE AS FAR AS THE ADJUSTMENT.
AS FAR AS A LOT OF OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THE ADJUSTMENT.
I TRIED TO CONTACT TMRS. I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS I'D ASKED THEM I DID TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK ON THOSE.
I WILL SAY THIS THAT EVEN IF THIS WERE APPROVED IN THE BUDGET, IT'S NOT REALLY APPROVED BECAUSE IT REQUIRES AN ORDINANCE BEFORE IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE.
IF IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED IN THE BUDGET, WE HAVE TO COME BACK IN NOVEMBER WITH AN ORDINANCE.
AT THAT TIME, WE COULD HAVE A TMRS REPRESENTATIVE HERE TO EXPLAINS, ANSWER QUESTIONS GOING IN THE PROCESS A LITTLE MORE IN DETAIL.
>> JUST FROM A COUNSEL PERSPECTIVE, I KNOW THAT THE LAST TIME, AS YOU SAID AT THE END OF THE BUDGET MEETING, WE HAD IT WAS RUSHED AND WE HIT THE TMRS, BUT NOT REALLY IN DEPTH.
I HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK BACK AND AT LEAST DO SOME SEARCHING ON TMRS BECAUSE I REALLY DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHOLE COVER SITUATION WAS.
THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OUT THERE THAT IS PRETTY SPECIALIZED BACK IN MAY OF 2023.
THEY ALSO CAME UP WITH A NEW, WHAT THEY CALL REPEATING OPTION, EVEN, AND THE REPEATING OPTION LOOKS BACK ONE YEAR VERSUS A CUMULATIVE INFLATION RATE.
BECAUSE TYPICALLY, IF YOU GO BACK, I THINK RETROACTIVE, WHAT IT DOES IS IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GO BACK.
A NUMBER OF YEARS, MEANING IT DOESN'T GO BACK SINCE THAT PERSON RETIRED.
BUT WHAT I THOUGHT, AT LEAST I UNDERSTOOD ON IT WAS THAT, IT LOOKS AT THE INFLATION RATE OVER THE ENTIRE TIME FRAME THE PERSON WAS RETIRED.
IF YOU WENT BACK, THAT PERSON RETIRED IN LET'S SAY 1995, IT WOULD LOOK AT THE CUMULATIVE INFLATION RATE OVER THAT TIME AND THEN RATE, YOU'D GET ONE YEAR GOING BACK ONLY ONE YEAR, BUT IT WOULD COVER AN ENTIRE INFLATION RATE.
LOOK BACK AT THAT, BASICALLY THAT REPEATING OPTION WAS PUT IN MAY 23, AND IT SAID THAT YOU COULD ADOPT IT BETWEEN 2023-2025.
I WASN'T REALLY EVEN SURE WHAT 2025 MEANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY GOOD UNTIL JANUARY OF THE ENSUING YEAR.
IF WE DID IT THIS YEAR, IT WOULDN'T BE GOOD UNTIL 2025.
THEN ARE WE OUTSIDE THAT WINDOW OR NOT.
BUT AS I WENT THROUGH, ALSO LOOKED AT NEW SHEETS THAT GRANT HAD PUT THROUGH.
I LOOKED LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES HAD DONE LESS THAN 70%.
I THINK SALINA WAS AT 30%, I THINK FAIRVIEW WAS AT 50%, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THAT ON THE PREVIOUS SHEET OR I MISSED IT.
BUT IT LOOKED LIKE THERE'S A LOT AS I LOOKED AT THE INFORMATION ONLINE AND LOOKED AT NEW INFORMATION, BUT I JUST WASN'T COMFORTABLE REALLY FEELING I HAD ALL THE INFORMATION WHICH TO VOTE ON.
BUT SINCE IT'S NOT AVAILABLE, OR REALLY WE WOULDN'T PUT IT INTO EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY OF 2025, WE'VE GOT SUFFICIENT TIME, I THINK TO PROPERLY REVIEW IT.
MY DESIRE WOULD BE REALLY TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET, PUT IT AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM AND THEN LOOK THROUGH IT PRIOR TO 2025.
>> YOU WOULD RATHER DO THAT THAN LEAVE IT IN THE BUDGET, BUT NOT DO THE ORDINANCE UNTIL WE COULD GET THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE IN NOVEMBER, AT WHICH TIME WE COULD EITHER PASS THE ORDINANCE OR IF NOT, TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET AT THAT POINT.
>> YEAH. I REALIZE THERE'S ANOTHER STEP, BUT TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE WE APPROVED IT, IF IT'S SITTING IN THE BUDGET AS THE WAY THAT IT IS EVEN IF AN ORDINANCE IS REQUIRED.
THE NON RETRO IS WHAT WE PUT IN THERE.
IT DOESN'T GO BACK FOR THE CUMULATIVE.
IT ONLY LOOKS BACK AT ONE YEAR OF THE RETIREES.
WELL, THAT REPEATING OPTION ONLY DID LOOK BACK ONE YEAR, BUT THE PERCENTAGE THAT IT USED TO CALCULATE THAT AMOUNT THAT YOU WOULD PAY FOR
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THAT ONE YEAR WAS ACCUMULATIVE INTEREST RATE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.I MEAN, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE, AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD GET A TIER MESS PERSON IN TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THE WHOLE THING.
WE THEN HAVE THE INFORMATION IN WHICH TO MORE CORRECTLY DETERMINE WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO OR WHAT PERCENTAGE WE USE, ETC, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE STILL A LOT ON THE FENCE AS TO HOW WE WILL BE PUT TOGETHER.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO JUST CONCUR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO IN TERMS OF HIS OPINION ON THIS ONE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO, I THINK, TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET AT THIS TIME, AND THAT WILL ALLOW US MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO REALLY DO THE CALCULATIONS AND GET A VERY GOOD UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THIS OUTLINE ITEM.
I ALSO WOULD CONCUR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER.
>> MAYOR PRO TEMRED, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS?
>> I THINK I AGREE WITH WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE IS THAT, IS THERE ANY FUNDS THAT HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED PRIOR TO THE 2025 TIME FRAME? IF THERE'S NOT, THEN I'M IN ALIGNMENT.
I THINK WE SHOULD RESEARCH IT A LITTLE MORE.
>> AS FAR AS ONLY WHEN IT BECAME EFFECTIVE, SO.
>> YEAH, I AGREE THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.
>> YES. AS FAR AS I MOVE THIS.
YOU WANT TO USE THE SAME TOOL THAT I USED BEFORE AS FAR AS BALANCE OF THE BUDGET TO MOVE THE STREET CONSTRUCTION AND IT CONSTRUCTION FUND?
>> YES, IT WOULD JUST BE IF WE DECIDED ON, IT WOULD JUST BE MOVED BACK AT THAT FUTURE DATE, RIGHT?
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE BALANCE TO SHOW A SURPLUS.
WE COULD JUST REMOVE IT AND HAVE A SURPLUS.
>> I WOULD EITHER AGREE TO SHOW A SURPLUS NOW OR JUST I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY AGREE TO ALLOCATE IT TO ANY OTHER FUNDS AT THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO OCCUR BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
I'D RATHER SHOW A SURPLUS AND SEE WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE THEN.
>> I'M FINE WITH THAT. THAT WAY, IT'S KIND OF EARMARKED, IF YOU WILL.
I LIKE THAT IDEA THAT IT'S KIND OF EARMARKED RATHER THAN BEING HIDDEN IN THE OTHER FUNDS.
>> YEAH, I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE FUNDS BEFORE YOU GET TO PARKS?
>> I HAVE A I HAVE TWO COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS.
GIVEN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE STILL ASSESSING A PATH FORWARD IN TERMS OF OUR ATTORNEY AND GIVEN THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR A NEW CITY ADMINISTRATOR, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE ELIMINATE THE ASSISTANT FOR THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR FROM THE BUDGET BECAUSE, WE DON'T HAVE EITHER ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IDENTIFIED YET.
THE ASSISTANT FOR PEOPLE I WOULD PROPOSE TO ELIMINATE THAT SALARY POSITION FROM THE BUDGET.
>> WE HAVE AN ASSISTANT CITY ADMINISTRATOR.
>> THE OPEN REC THAT WE APPROVED.
>> SORRY, I DIDN'T USE THE RIGHT TERM.
BUT IT'S THE OPEN REC THAT WE HAVE FOR THE POSITION THAT WE APPROVED RECENTLY THAT WE HAVE NOT HIRED YET.
>> IF WE TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET AND SAY IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY, WE NEED IT, THEN IT'S NOT A FUNDED POSITION.
IT'S NO LONGER THERE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> YEAH, THAT'S MY PROPOSAL TO DISCUSS.
>> I WOULD OBJECT TO THAT, BUT OKAY.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK, WHAT WOULD BE THE MECHANISM FOR FUNDING THE POSITION IF WE WANTED TO STAFF THE POSITION MID YEAR?
>> WHAT WE'D HAVE TO DO IS, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND CO PROBABLY DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THESE ARE THE FIRST TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR AND APPROVED IN OVER FOUR YEARS.
YES, WE CAN TAKE THEM OUT OF THE BUDGET, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN WHENEVER AND DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE AT THAT TIME.
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>> AS MAYBE A MIDDLE GROUND ON THAT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS OTHER ONE OR HAS SOME FUNDS EARMARKED FOR IT, AND THEN IF IT'S NOT USED, IT COULD BE A SURPLUS.
>> SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF TYPICAL MIGHT BE TO FREEZE A POSITION.
>> LEAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE EXCEPT YOU JUST WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HIRE SOMEBODY UNTIL COUNCIL DECIDED TO UNFREEZE IT.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IMPLICATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE FOR THE BUDGET THEN.
>> WE'LL HAVE A SURPLUS OF FUNDS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, IF THAT POSITION AREAS UP FROZEN WILL JUST BE MORE SURPLUS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY THEN IT'S IN THE BUDGET OR IS IT A SURPLUS AND THEN IT IS EARMARKED? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
>> IT'S EARMARKED. THERE'S A PLACE TO GET IN THE BUDGET FOR IT.
IF YOU DON'T USE IT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS EXPENSES ARE LESS.
>> THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT WAS MORE THAN JUST FOR THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR, CORRECT?
>> THIS WAS TO BE A PERSON THAT WOULD HELP OUT WITH LUKE, AMY OR WHOEVER AND PATTY IN THAT ROLE.
THE OTHER POSITION IS GOING TO BE GARY'S ASSISTANT TO HELP HIM WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND PAPERWORK AND THAT SORT OF THING.
>> MY QUESTION IS, IF WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR A NEW OBVIOUSLY LEGAL PERSON IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, LUKE WILL BE IN ANOTHER POSITION.
WE ARE LIKELY TO NEED SOME HELP OF SOME NATURE.
FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IF WE NEED LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TYPE PERSON TO ASSIST IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE LOOKING GIVE ME TO FILL A COUPLE OF POSITIONS.
IF THAT POSITION IS NOT IN THE BUDGET, THEN I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WHERE DO WE PULL THOSE FUNDS WHEN WE BRING THAT PERSON IN ON A TEMPORARY OR WHATEVER BASIS?
>> YOU'RE SAYING IF IT WERE TO GET REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW, AND THEN LATER ON WE WERE TO ADD THAT POSITION BACK.
>> I'M SAYING THAT WE MAY NEED SOME HELP GIVEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DONE TO PEOPLE TO SOME EXTENT AND A LOT GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY.
IF WE NEED TO BRING SOMEBODY IN TO ASSIST UNTIL WE CAN FILL THOSE SPOTS AND FIGURE OUT IF THAT POSITION IS NEEDED, ETC, WHERE WILL WE PULL THE FUNDS FROM TO GET THAT TEMPORARY HELP?
>> YOU COULD PULL IF YOU JUST FROZE THE POSITION AND LET THE FUNDS IN THE BUDGET, YOU COULD USE THOSE FUNDS TO I GUESS USE TO HIRE A TEMPORARY PERSON IN THE MEANTIME, OR IF YOU WERE TO ELIMINATE THAT POSITION, MOVE THE BUDGET, THEN I GUESS YOU'D HAVE TO COME BACK INTO A BUDGET AMENDMENT LATER TO ADD FUNDS IF YOU WANT TO HIRE A TEMPORARY PERSON.
>> IF WE HIRE A TEMPORARY PERSON, WE'D HAVE TO UNFREEZE THAT BEFORE WE COULD HIRE THEM.
>> WHICH [INAUDIBLE] OTHER THAN JUST BRING THIS AGENDA ITEM BACK TO COUNCIL.
>> WHICH COULD BE TWO OR THREE WEEKS IN BETWEEN THOUGH.
>> I'M NOT TRYING TO BE TOO SOFT MARK ON THIS, BUT IF THOSE POSITIONS ARE OMITTED, THOUGH, WE STILL HAVE BUDGET IN THERE TO SUPPORT THOSE POSITIONS.
EVERY MONTH THAT WE WENT IF WE WEREN'T SUPPORTING THOSE WOULD BE SURPLUS, BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL EARMARKED FOR THOSE POSITIONS BEING THEIR ATTORNEY, WHETHER IT BE AN IN HOUSE ATTORNEY OR A FEE THAT WE'RE GIVING A RETAINER, OR SECONDLY, A FULL TIME POSITION FOR AN ADMINISTRATOR, CORRECT?
>> I JUST THINK IT'S LIKELY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO STAFF THAT POSITION.
IF WE GET A NEW CITY ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH I ASSUME WE'RE GOING TO DO BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, AND WE GET A NEW CITY ATTORNEY, WHETHER IN HOUSE OR OUTSIDE, I ASSUME THERE COULD BE SOME WORK FOR THAT POSITION AS WELL, PLUS ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE FOR PATTY IN HER ROLE.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT POSITION AT SOME POINT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
I WOULD RATHER GO AHEAD AND LEAVE IT IN THE BUDGET, FUND IT.
IF WE DON'T SPEND ALL OF IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HIRE THEM UNTIL SEVEN MONTHS INTO IT, SIX MONTHS, THREE MONTHS INTO THE YEAR, WE JUST HAVE A SURPLUS IN THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
>> IT WOULD BE LIKE ANY OTHER VACANT POSITION.
FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THE POLICE HAS ONE VACANT POSITION OR TWO VACANT.
GARY'S GOT TWO VACANT POSITIONS, AND THEY'RE VACANT UNTIL THEY'RE FILLED.
WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'VE HESITATED ON HIRING ANYBODY UNTIL WE
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BACK UP TO FULL STAFF BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HIRE SOMEBODY FOR A NEW ADMINISTRATOR AND A NEW ATTORNEY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY INPUT ON.THAT'S WHY THE POSITION IS STILL OPEN.
COUNCIL MEMBER, NOE, YOU HAVEN'T WEIGHED IN HERE.
>> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THAT.
TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FILLING THE ROLE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY IF WE CHOOSE TO HAVE AN IN HOUSE ATTORNEY AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR SUPERSEDE A CITY ADMINISTRATOR OLSON, SHOULD BE THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD INTERVIEW AND HIRE THIS PERSON.
AS WE NOTED BEFORE, IF WE GO WITH OUTSIDE COUNCIL, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ASSISTANTS, AND I DON'T SEE A MODEL WHERE THEY WOULD LEVERAGE OUR ASSISTANT HERE IN HOUSE.
WHEN WE JUSTIFIED THIS POSITION, WE HAD THEM SPLITTING TIME AND REDACTING DOCUMENTS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND OUR MONEY ON OUR ATTORNEY'S FEES TO REDACT DOCUMENTS, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WORK WILL BE NEEDED IF WE GO OUTSIDE.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS THAT STILL NEED TO BE ANSWERED.
IT'S LIKE I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE TYPE OF SCENARIO WHERE I THINK THERE'S TOO MANY UNKNOWNS RIGHT NOW TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT STRUCTURE SHOULD BE.
>> WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THERE'S ENOUGH WORK NOW WHERE IT'S OVERWHELMING SOMETIME.
LUKE, HOW MANY HOURS DID YOU SPENT REDACTING RECORDS?
>> WHICH WAS A POOR USE OF HIS TIME, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE HE HAD CITY ADMINISTRATOR DUTIES HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING.
IT GETS REAL COMPLICATED ON WHO DOES, WHO'S ON FIRST.
I JUST WOULD RATHER KEEP THE MONEY THERE IN THE POSITION THERE TO BE SAFE.
IF WE DON'T USE IT, IT JUST ROLLS OR WE CAN MOVE IT AT WHATEVER TIME WE WANT TO.
BUT AT LEAST IT'S THERE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO GET BACK TO COUNCIL IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION IF THAT SHOULD OCCUR.
BECAUSE LEAVING IT IN DOESN'T MEAN WE SPEND IT BUT IT'S THERE IF WE NEED IT.
>> I AGREE. COUNCIL MEMBER CERTO?
>> I WOULD PROBABLY BE FINE WITH EITHER LEAVING IT OR FREEZING IT.
I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN KNOWS POSITION AS FAR AS THE LEGAL SIDE, FOR SURE.
IF WE DO GO OUTSIDE, THEN IN FACT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT POSITION WAS PREDICATED ON THE FACT THAT WE HAD IN HOUSE COUNCIL.
IF WE HAVE FUNDS INTERNAL, THE ONLY THING I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS IF WE NEED JUST HELP WHILE WE'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE POSITIONS.
IF WE HAVE MONEY IN IT OR CAN EASILY GET IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SPENT SOME OF THE OTHER MONEY.
I WOULD I PROBABLY BE IN FAVOR PROBABLY OF SEEING IT, SO THAT IF WE FREEZE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHY NOT.
IT GIVES US THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS WHERE THERE'S A LITTLE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY COMING BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OUR DUCKS IN A ROW, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE NEED THE FUNDS, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE GYERATIONS TO MAKE IT BE AVAILABLE.
>> WELL, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MAJORITY.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER [OVERLAPPING]
>> I CONCUR WITH THE FREEZING OPTION. THANK YOU.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION?
>> YEAH, I HAVE ANOTHER PROPOSAL.
WITH RESPECT TO THE TAHOE VEHICLE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE THE TWO NEW FIRE TRUCKS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO BE DELIVERED NEXT YEAR, SO THOSE WILL BE TWO NEW ASSETS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THE REQUEST IS TO REPLACE THE CHEVY TAHOE, WHICH IS A 2014 CHEVY TAHOE, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE CURRENT MILEAGE ON THAT VEHICLE IS ABOUT 70,000 MILES, IS THAT CORRECT? DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY?
>> HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND.
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>> IT'S 10-YEARS-OLD, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MILES.
>> SURE. I GUESS IN THE SPIRIT OF THE VEHICLE NOT HAVING VERY MANY MILES ON IT AND CHEVY TAHOE IS REALLY BEING DESIGNED TO BE A WORKHORSE TYPE OF TRUCK, AND TYPICALLY WHEN YOU USE THEM EXTENSIVELY, YOU WOULD PROBABLY GET A PRETTY GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS ON THEM.
I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE MAYBE WAIT A YEAR OR TWO TO REPLACE THE CHEVY TAHOE JUST BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S PERHAPS STILL GOOD LIFE IN THE ASSET THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
>> CHIEF CHEF, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT?
>> I THINK THE KEY QUESTION BECOMES FIRST AND FOREMOST, YES, THAT'S AN OPTION WITHOUT QUESTION.
IS 10-YEARS-OLD, WE'VE JUST HAD MAINTENANCE DONE ON.
SEALS WILL EVENTUALLY GO [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE DOWNTIME.
THE OTHER REASONS TYPICALLY IS THAT OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THESE OLDER VEHICLES.
WE LOST THE REAL FACTS PRIOR TO THE TITLE.
WE INHERITED FROM OUR FELTS BLUE OVER HERE.
CURD CORRECT THE TRANSMISSION WENT OUT VERY QUICKLY AFTER THAT THOUSAND DOLLAR A PAIR VEHICLE THAT IS ECONOMICALLY NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.
THE REAL INQUIRE IT COMES DOWN TO IS THE QUESTION OF, CAN WE WAIT YES FOR THAT QUESTION.
BUT THE DOWNSIDE THAT IS A 10-YEAR-OLD VEHICLE [INAUDIBLE] WILL BE MORE MONEY IN THAT IS 10-YEARS-OLD.
>> GO AHEAD, MAYOR BRITON RAY.
>> I JUST HAVE RECOLLECTION, AGAIN, IN TERMS OF THE VEHICLE AS TO HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THE REPLACEMENT VEHICLE?
>> WE ASKED FOR THIS VEHICLE SOME TIME AGO.
IN TERMS OF REPLACEMENT VEHICLE?
>> NO. IF YOU ORDER IT FROM WHAT I RECALL FROM THE LAST BUDGET SESSION, IS ONCE AGAIN WHERE YOU'VE GOT TO ORDER IT, SEND IT TO A PLACE TO HAVE IT DONE WITH THE LIGHTS, ETC.
>> LESS SO POLICE VEHICLES AND OTHER VEHICLES.
REAL TIME IS OBTAIN VEHICLE AND INSTALLING RADIOS.
THAT TO ME IS NOT AN ISSUE THE ISSUE IS [INAUDIBLE]
>> BUT IF WE NEEDED TO REPLACE IT, WE COULD REPLACE IT, YOU'RE SAYING PROBABLY WITHIN A MONTH OR ABOUT A MONTH.
>> MY CUT ON THAT IS I KNOW THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE IT'S WHAT I DO FROM A CHIP STANDPOINT AND RIGHT NOW, VEHICLE LEAD TIMES ARE NOT VERY LONG.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE ALL THE FORECASTS I'VE SEEN FROM THE CHIP SIDE IS THAT EVEN IN THE SECOND HALF OF '25, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE.
I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD WINDOW THERE.
MY QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS THAT THE OIL PRESSURE THING RING A BELL FOR ME.
YOU SAID IT'S LOW OIL PRESSURE.
IS IT LIKE LOW WITHIN A RANGE THAT'S STILL GOOD OPERATING RANGE OR IS IT LOW IN THAT THERE'S SOME A PROBLEM?
>> HOW MANY HOURS WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE]
>> MIKE, CAN I ASK A FAVORITE.
I'M GETTING TEXT MESSAGES THAT THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU ALL DOWN ON THE FLOOR. SORRY.
>> DOESN'T SEEM TO BE [OVERLAPPING].
>> APPARENTLY ISN'T WORKING CHIEF.
IF YOU WOULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
>> HERE'S MY PERSPECTIVE AS FIRE CHIEF.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE OVERALL NEED WE HAD, AS COUNCIL AMINO POINTED OUT, PRIMARILY, IT WAS HAVING OUR FLEET WITH RESPECT TO THE FIRE SUPPRESSION UNITS AS MY PRIORITY.
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WHAT WE'RE SEEING I KNOW IT'S GOING TO ULTIMATELY NEED TO BE REPLACED.WE'VE HAD IT ON COUNCIL'S AGENDA OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS NOW, AND IT KEEPS GETTING PUSHED BACK BECAUSE WE HAD OTHER NEEDS, WHICH IS TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE.
>> RIGHT NOW, I DO KNOW THAT I WILL PROBABLY BE BRING THIS UNIT IN FOR REPAIR SOMETIME IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS FOR SOMETHING AND IT'S SIMPLY A MATTER OF, IS IT MORE EXPEDIENT SIMPLY TO REPLACE IT NOW IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, OR WAIT ANOTHER FISCAL YEAR? AGAIN, THAT'S A COUNCIL DECISION.
LET ME BE VERY CLEAR. IT WORKS.
IT MEETS OUR NEEDS, BUT IN THE SHORT TERM, WE'RE GOOD, IN THE LONGER TERM, IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
>> TWO THINGS. ONE, IS THIS NOT ONE OF THE VEHICLES THAT YOU WERE DESCRIBING AT THE LAST BUDGET MEETING THAT YOU DO HAVE A LONGER LEAD TIME BECAUSE YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY ORDER IT FROM THE OUTFITTER, THIS IS NOT WHEN YOU PROPOSE TO BUY OFF THE LOT AT A CAR DEALERSHIP AND SEND TO AN OUTFITTER.
YOU WOULD WANT TO BUY IT THROUGH THE OUTFITTER CAR.
>> WELL, THAT DEPENDS ON THE OUTFITTER OR AGAIN, THIS IS NOT LIKE A POLICE UNIT.
WE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THIS VEHICLE IN THE OPEN MARKET AND THEN SENT IT TO AN OUTFITTER TO BE PAINTED BD DECAL THE PAINTING WAS ALREADY DONE, AND THEN HAVE SIMPLY THE RADIOS INSTALLED AND THE LIGHTS INSTALLED.
THE CAPITA TREE WE ACTUALLY INSTALL OURSELVES.
>> MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS.
ANY SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE IN THE OVERALL COST AND BUYING IT FROM A DEALERSHIP AND SENDING IT TO AN OUTFITTER VERSUS BUYING IT FINISHED FROM AN OUTFITTER?
>> I WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT OTHER THAN WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING ALL THE PARTS THAT GO ONTO IT BECAUSE I'LL JUST TAKE IT OFF THE OLD ONE AND PUT IT ON THE NEW, AND ALL THE PARTS THEMSELVES, THE RADIO, THE LIGHT BARS, ETC.
THERE ARE ALL GOOD. SOME OF THE SMALLER LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE PROBABLY GOING TO REMAIN ON THE VEHICLE, BUT THEY'RE NOT EXPENSIVE. THEY'RE UNDER $1000.
>> THE MORE IMPORTANT THING THAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS YOU REFERRED TO ENGINE HOURS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T HAVE AN HOUR METER ON A VEHICLE LIKE THIS, LIKE YOU DO ON A TRACTOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR AN AIRPLANE PIECE OF AIRCRAFT.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS EVEN THOUGH IT'S 10-YEARS-OLD, AND IT'S ONLY GOT 20,000 MILES ON IT, IT HAS SUBSTANTIALLY MORE ENGINE TIME ON IT THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT ON A 20,000 MILE VEHICLE, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING THE GREATER SENSE OF URGENCY.
IS THE ENGINE HAS FAR MORE THAN 20,000 MILES WORTH OF WEAR?
>> I WOULD PROPOSE THIS THEN, GIVEN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, I WOULD SAY IT'S GOT SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN 20,000 MILES WORTH OF WERE ON THE ENGINE.
THE ONLY THING WE WOULD SAVE IF WE WAIT ANOTHER YEAR TO BUY THIS IS THE TIME VALUE OF THE MONEY.
I WOULD SAY THE RISK TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TO THE CITIZENS OF PARKER IS GREATER THAN WHAT WE WILL GAIN BY THE TIME VALUE OF THE MONEY, WAITING A YEAR.
NOT TO ALSO EXCLUDE THE FACT THAT IF WE WERE EARNING 5% ON OUR MONEY THAT'S SETTING IN THE BANK, WHICH IS ABOUT RIGHT RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE VEHICLES ARE GOING TO GO UP MORE THAN 5% BETWEEN NOW AND A YEAR FROM NOW, AND THAT VEHICLE IS GOING TO DEPRECIATE.
I THINK WE'D BE BETTER OFF FINANCIALLY TO GO AHEAD AND BUY IT NOW THAN TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR.
>> CHIEF CHEF, COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE ENGINE HOURS ARE GREATER THAN THE NUMBER OF MILES ON THE VEHICLE?
>> WELL, WE MAY SIT AT A FIRE FOUR OR FIVE HOURS AND THAT ENGINE IS RUNNING CONSTANTLY.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE MILES YOU HAVE, IT'S HOW LONG THE ENGINE IS GOING.
>> THE PD VEHICLES NOW HAVE ENGINE HOURS.
THEY DO TRACK THOSE ON THE FORDS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE TAOS TRACK THEM NOW? I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'VE ADDED IN THE LAST FIVE TO SIX YEARS, SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET ENGINE HOURS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED FIGURING OUT OIL CHANGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT I'M STILL CURIOUS TO WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE.
SOMEBODY HAS TO HAVE SOME IDEA.
IS 20,000 WITH THE FIVE HOURS OF HOW MANY FIRES IT'S BEEN ON EQUATE TO 100,000 MILES? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
>> I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO COME.
>> MAYBE WITH THE NEW VEHICLES, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MILEAGE AND THE ENGINE HOURS THAT YOU SEE IN A POLICE VEHICLE? THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD BENCHMARK TO AT LEAST LOOK IT.
>> THE POLICE VEHICLES RUN NONSTOP FOR THE 12-HOUR SHIFT USUALLY, JUST BECAUSE OF THE ELECTRONICS AND EVERYTHING IN IT.
WELL, FEEDS BACK TO AN ALTERNATOR THAT POWERS EVERYTHING UP.
I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A BATTERY SYSTEM IN THE BACK, DON'T THEY? TWELVE HOURS, THEY MIGHT DRIVE 100,
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200 MILES, MAYBE IN A DAY. I DON'T KNOW.JUST BACK AND FORTH LAUNCH STATION.
THAT'S WHAT THEY MIGHT GET JUST AVERAGE PATROL.
THERE'S A FORMULA OUT THERE, I KNOW.
WHEN I WAS IN NEBRASKA, WE DID HAVE A TRACKING MACHINE THAT TRACKED ALL THAT.
>> I'LL FORM A BALL PARTY, JUST DOING QUICK NUMBERS, LET'S SAY THAT AN HOUR AND A HALF WOULD BE 90 MINUTES, SO THAT'S ABOUT AN HOUR AND CHANGE OR WHATEVER.
NINETY MINUTES VERSUS 12 HOURS, YOU'RE TALKING AN HOUR AND A HALF VERSUS 12, SO MAYBE 10X IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEN?
>> YEAH. I'VE OFFERED MY OPINION.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GAIN ENOUGH BY WAITING A YEAR AND KEEPING OUR MONEY IN THE BANK AT 5% VERSUS THE RISK AND THE REAL ISSUE.
I UNDERSTAND ENGINE HOURS CLEARLY ON A VEHICLE THAT IT SET STEEL, BUT THE ENGINE RUNS BECAUSE EVERY MOVING PART IN THAT ENGINE AND MANY MOVING PARTS IN THE TRANSMISSION ARE MOVING WHILE IT'S SETTING STEEL.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S NOT MOVING IS THE DRIVE TRAIN ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE TRANSMISSION.
>> I DID A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH HERE.
ONE HOUR OF IDLE TIME IS EQUAL TO 30 MILES OF DRIVING.
>> THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE FIVE HOURS WOULD ONLY BE 150 MILES OF DRIVING.
THAT'S WHAT ENTERPRISE HAS ON THEIR WEBSITE.
>> INTERESTING. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THAT MUCH.
I WAS THINKING IT WAS A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
>> I WOULD TEND TO THINK IT'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
>> THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT, NOT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAILS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WHEN IT'S SITTING THERE THE DRIVE TRAIN, THE TRANSMISSION, MAYBE THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT IF IT'S SITTING THERE WITH THE AIR ON AND ALL THAT THING COMPRESS OR ALTERNATOR, AND ALL THAT THING, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT ARE NOT MOVING WHEN IT'S SITTING IDLE.
ALL THE DRIVE TRAIN, TIRE WARE, ALL THAT THING ARE NOT HAPPENING DURING THAT TIME FRAME.
YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THAT AS WELL.
>> BOTTOM LINE IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 10-YEAR-OLD VEHICLE.
IF WE GO AHEAD AND GET A NEW ONE, WE PERHAPS CAN SELL THE OLD ONE WHERE WE DON'T TAKE A COMPLETE.
NOW IT'S NOT WORKING, IT'S BROKEN AND WE GET A BAD LOSS.
PLUS, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US REALLY HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL AS TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE ECONOMIC.
>> THERE'S THERE'S NO QUESTION.
I THINK USED VEHICLES STILL AT A PRETTY GOOD PREMIUM.
BUT IF IT IS NOT OPERATIONAL, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE VALUE OF THAT VEHICLE IS A LOT LESS.
IF IT HAS A BLOWN ENGINE, THEN OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS REQUIRED TO REPAIR IT, SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T WANT IT.
>> I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM.
I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
>> YES. I WOULD STILL JUST RECOMMEND THAT WE DELAY THE PURCHASE UNTIL A FUTURE YEAR, THAT'S WHERE MY POSITION.
I SAY, I PROBABLY WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM THAT FOR A UNIT THAT'S 10-YEARS-OLD AND THE TIME VALUE OF MONEY, AND THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO LAST, THE NEXT ONE IS GOING TO LAST, PROBABLY ANOTHER 10 YEARS THAT BETTER TO HAVE ONE THAT WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH THAN THE.
>> THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM RED.
>> FOR ME, IT'S A TOSS UP TOO.
I'M A LITTLE BIT LEANING ON THE MORE CONSERVATIVE SIDE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN NOE WAS SAYING, BUT I DO SEE THE VALUE OF MONEY AND SO FORTH.
LET'S JUST SAY YOU'RE TAKING A RISK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THE RISK OF ACTUALLY HAVING IT IS PROBABLY BETTER FOR ASSUMING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A GAF IN THE SUPPORT.
I PROBABLY WOULD LEAN THE OTHER WAY JUST A LITTLE BIT.
>> THAT MEANS THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WISHES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. NEXT, GRANT.
>> I THINK NO ANOTHER QUESTION I WANT TO LOOK AT IT.
>> GRANT, CAN YOU COME UP TO MIKE? SORRY?
>> SURE. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO REVISIT THE $50,000 MAINTENANCE BUDGET ALLOCATION
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ON STREET MAINTENANCE SPECIFICALLY.>> THE 50,000 THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC WORK STREET LINE ITEM.
IS BASICALLY REMOVING THAT FROM THE CIP AND TURN IT INTO A LINE ITEM UNDER PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET.
THAT WAY WHAT'S IN THE CIP FUND IS GOING TO BE COUNCIL DECISIONS ON HOW TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS.
IN HIS BUDGET, IF IT'S UNDER PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET, ALLOWS HIM TO MAKE EMERGENCY REPAIRS WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO COUNCIL FIRST AND GET THEIR BLESSING BEFORE HE GOES AND FIXES POTHOLES OR CRACK SEALS OR ROLLED OR SOMETHING THAT'S NORMAL MAINTENANCE.
>> RIGHT ON PAGE 16. IF WE TAKE THAT $50,000 AND THEN ADD IT TO ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE 1% SALES TAX TOWARDS STREET MAINTENANCE AND OTHER MONIES FROM GENERAL FUND TRANSFERS.
HOW MUCH TOTAL BUDGET DO WE HAVE FOR STREET MAINTENANCE AS A CATEGORY?
>> YOU'RE TALKING POTHOLE REPAIRS AND THAT SORT OF THING?
>> I THINK I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CIP CATEGORY.
WE HAD ABOUT $350,000 THAT WE WANTED TO SPEND ON MAINTAINING STREETS, AND THIS IS A GOOD IDEA OF COURSE BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE 50,000 OF THAT TO JUST DISCRETIONARY SPENDING IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
BUT OVERALL, I THINK OUR GOAL FOR THE CIP WAS ON THE ORDER OF 350,000 IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THE TWO SEPARATE LINE ITEMS WILL EQUATE TO THAT MUCH.
>> IN THE CIP FUND, THERE'S A TOTAL OF LITTLE OVER 3.2 MILLION DOLLAR, THAT'S BUDGET FOR EXPENSE ITEM.
NO, THAT'S NOT REALLY BROKEN OUT INTO SPECIFIC PROJECTS OR ANYTHING.
AS FAR AS A $350,000, THERE'S NOTHING THAT TIES BACK TO 350,000.
I I GUESS PART OF THAT 3.2 MILLION COULD BE 350,000.
>> IN THE BIG PICTURE OF THAT OVERALL 1% FUND, THAT'S NOT ALL THE 1% FUND, SOME OF THAT ROLLS, THAT MONEY THAT'S IN THE STREET FUND?
>> EVERYTHING THAT GOES IN THE STREET CONSTRUCTION FUND STAYS IN THE STREET CONSTRUCTION FUND. YES.
>> MY POINT BEING IS THAT THAT WAS MORE THAN A ONE YEAR OF ACCRUAL OF FUNDS THAT WERE IN THERE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEND ALL OF IT.
>> BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE 50,000 THAT'S PEELED OFF IS A PRETTY SMALL PORTION OF THAT.
I THINK I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
>> IT WAS REALLY MORE JUST A CLARIFICATION QUESTION, AND I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION. GREAT.
>> WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT BUDGET? WELL, THEN IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL LET MR. FRANK DA COSTA COME UP HERE AND SPEAK ABOUT THE PARKS FUND AND THEIR BUDGET.
>> AT OUR LAST MEETING, Y'ALL HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKS AND REC REQUEST.
THE CHAIR OF PARKS AND REC FRANK DA COSTA, AS WELL AS MOST OF PARKS AND REC WAS HERE TO SUPPORT THEIR REQUEST AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
>> ON THE PRINCIPLE THAT A PICTURE IS WORTH 100 WORDS, I'VE PUT A FEW TOGETHER.
MAYBE WE WANT TO FLIP OFF HERE AND I'LL TALK ABOUT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS.
NONE OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH WHAT YOU ALREADY REGULARLY GIVE US FOR EVENTS AND OTHER KINDS OF THINGS, AND WE'RE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT STREAM BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO DO THINGS LIKE PARKER FEST AND LIKE CONCERT IN THE PRESERVE AND WILDFIRE THINGS, ALL THAT.
THESE ARE BREAKOUT THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MOVE AHEAD ON.
LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SCREEN HERE.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE PORTABLE MODULAR STAGE.
NEXT SCREEN. THE IDEA BEHIND HERE IS THE BAND OUT OF THE PARKING LOT.
WE'LL HAVE PARKER FEST AND WE'LL HAVE A BAND PLAY.
WE PUT THEM IN THE PARKING LOT RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE PARK, BECAUSE A BAND DOESN'T LIKE TO OPERATE ON TOP OF GRASS AND DIRT.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY'RE IN THE PARKING LOT, WE'D LIKE TO USE THE PARKING LOT FOR PARKING.
WE ALSO HAVE CARS COMING DOWN THERE GOING OFF TO THAT WAY TO WHERE WE'RE PARKING EVERYTHING.
THERE ARE SOME SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUES AROUND THAT AND ALL THAT.
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I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND. THE GOAL IS TO GET THEM OUT.THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE A SURFACE THAT WE CAN PUT THEM ON, HENCE THE IDEA. GO AHEAD AND NEXT SCREEN.
MODULAR STAGE. THIS WOULD BE 44 FOOT BY FOUR FOOT INTERLOCKING SECTIONS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 24 BY 16 AREA.
THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZE FOR THE VANS THAT WE NORMALLY WOULD HAVE.
YOU CAN GET THESE LITTLE TROLLEYS DESIGNED TO STORE IT, SO WE HAVE A FEW OF THOSE TROLLEYS ON WHEELS SO THEY CAN GO INTO STORAGE.
WE THINK THAT WOULD WORK WELL FOR ALLOWING US TO MOVE THE VAN.
SECOND ONE, A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION ON THIS.
>> IF I CAN INTERRUPT JUST FOR A SECOND, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA IN THAT WHEN YOU SEE THIS, IT'S GOOD THIS PICTURE IS HERE.
THE PA SYSTEM, THE MONITORS, AND ALL THAT THING, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THE STAGE NECESSARILY.
ESPECIALLY THE LARGE PA SYSTEM.
THE MAIN THING THAT YOU NEED TO BE ON THERE IS THE PERFORMERS IN THE DRUM SET, ESPECIALLY.
>> MOST OF THESE BANDS TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF THEIR EQUIPMENT, AND THEY DON'T WANT IT IN THE DIRT.
BUT TO THE POINT, AS FAR AS A SOUND PA SYSTEM, BANDS WILL UP CHARGE US, THEY'LL COME TO US AND SAY, WE WILL PLAY FOR THIS AMOUNT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A STANDING, WE'RE USED TO GOING TO A VENUE THAT ALREADY HAS A SOUND SYSTEM.
WE HAVE TO RENT A SOUND SYSTEM, SO, 50%, 75% UP CHARGE, PERHAPS TO US TO HAVE THAT BAND BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO RENT A SOUND SYSTEM, AND THEY PASS THAT ALONG TO US.
IF WE HAD A SOUND SYSTEM OF OUR OWN, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THAT.
WHAT COUNCILOR REED SAID, WE'VE GOT THE TOWER SPEAKERS AND THE SUBWOOFERS, MONITORS ON THE STAGE SO PEOPLE CAN HEAR WHAT THEY'RE PLAYING, MICROPHONES, STANDS, CABLES, ALL OF THAT, A GOOD MIXING BOARD.
THEN ON TOP OF THAT, GOOD CASES BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BUY THIS.
I'M SURE ONE CONCERN IS YOU BUY THIS STUFF.
NOW WE'VE GOT IT, WE THROW IT ON THE SHELF SOMEWHERE, IT DEGRADES QUICKLY.
WE WANTED TO HAVE PROPER TRAVEL CASES AND WANT TO KEEP IT IN GOOD QUALITY SO IT CAN SERVE THE CITY LONG TERM.
ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S USEFUL FOR ANY CITY PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS INDOOR OR OUTDOOR.
IT'S NOT JUST PARKER FEST AND BANDS AND THINGS.
I COULD PICTURE US IF WE HAD AN OUTDOOR EVENT FOR THE CITY TO HAVE MEET AND GREET CANDIDATES OR YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO THE CITIZENRY AND YOU WANT TO DO IT OUTSIDE.
OBVIOUSLY, NOT ALL TIMES OF THE YEAR, BUT EVEN INDOORS, THAT EQUIPMENT CAN STILL BE USED BY THE CITY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PAVILION.
OBVIOUSLY, IF WE HAD A PAVILION, WE WOULDN'T NEED THE STAGE SO EITHER OR.
BY THE WAY, THIS IS LUCAS' PAVILION.
WE SPENT SOME TIME OUT THERE, SPOKE TO THE PEOPLE THERE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY PAID FOR IT AND ALL THAT.
BUT THIS IS A 60 BY 40 PAVILION, AND WE NECESSARILY WON'T NEED ONE THAT LARGE.
THE IDEA IS TO PROVIDE A SHADY AREA.
PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE WALKING, AND THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SIT AND ENJOY.
THERE'S REALLY NOTHING OUT THERE IN THE PARK RIGHT NOW THAT DOES THAT. HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE OF IT.
DURING MOST OF THE TIME, WE'D HAVE PARK BENCHES UNDER THERE, SITING, WHATEVER.
BUT WHEN WE HAVE AN EVENT, PARKER FEST OR SOME OTHER THING, WE CAN MOVE THOSE OUT, USE THAT SURFACE FOR VANS OR FOR PEOPLE OR WHATEVER.
WE'D HAVE ELECTRICITY COMING INTO IT SO THAT WE CAN LIGHT IT AND ALL OF THAT.
IN THE SAME VEIN, WE DO NOT HAVE A RESTROOM FACILITY OUT THERE.
IF I'M WALKING AND I WANT TO USE THE RESTROOM, I GUESS I CAN COME IN HERE TO USE THIS ONE, BUT THAT'S NOT TERRIBLY CONVENIENT, AND THE DOOR MAY EVEN BE LOCKED.
THE IDEA IS A PREFABBED TWO ROOM, EASY MAINTENANCE RESTROOM FACILITY.
IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT GRAFFITI, YOU CAN GET ANTI-GRAFFITI CLEAR COVER ON IT, ALL THINGS.
THE NEXT PICTURE IS WHERE IT MIGHT GO.
WE COULD PUT IT ANYWHERE, BUT IF THE PAVILION WAS THERE AND THE RESTROOMS WERE THERE OR MAYBE FURTHER DOWN, THIS IS JUST GUESSING.
IT'S CLOSE TO POWER SO THAT'S A GOOD PLACE.
THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF GROUND ISN'T ALL THAT TERRIBLY WELL USED RIGHT NOW AND SO THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY, BUT IT COULD BE SITED ANYWHERE.
BUT THAT'S THE LOGIC BEHIND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
LET'S TALK ABOUT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND HOW WE PAY FOR THIS.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THE COLLIN COUNTY GRANTS AND THE TEXAS PARK AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION.
THEY BOTH HAVE GRANT SYSTEMS THAT ARE BASICALLY MATCHING FUND REIMBURSEMENT THINGS.
THEY SAY, WE NEED TO SEE THAT YOU'RE SERIOUS SO COMMIT YOUR FUNDS, AND THEN WE EVALUATE IT AND THEN WE COME BACK WITH 50% AFTERWARDS.
WE'VE MISSED THE WINDOW FOR THIS YEAR, AND I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE GLAD BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TIME TO REALLY DIG INTO THIS AND SEE WHETHER THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
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BUT IT WOULD BE IN 2025 SO LIKE THE COLLIN COUNTY GRANT, THEY'D TAKE OUR PAPERWORK IN JUNE, AND THEN THEY'D MAKE A DECISION LIKE NOVEMBER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.I'M NOT AT THE TEXAS PARK AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION THEY WOULD RECEIVE OUR PAPERWORK IN AUGUST AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE THE END OF THE YEAR BEFORE THEY AGREE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS PAYING FOR IT.
WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE FOR ME ABOUT ANY OF THIS?
>> IF I RECALL, THE GRANT WAS ONLY ELIGIBLE ON TWO OF THE FOUR ITEMS, IS THAT CORRECT OR IS IT ELIGIBLE ON ALL FOUR ITEMS?
>> WHICH IS THE PAVILION AND THE RESTAURANT?
>> THOSE GRANT THEY LIKE TO DO TRAILS.
THE LIKE TO DO LAND ACQUISITION.
WE'D LOVE TO DO A LITTLE LAND ACQUISITION AND THEY ALSO DO PERMANENT STRUCTURE WORK.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE GRANTS FOR ASSETS LIKE THAT, LIKE SOUND EQUIPMENT OR [INAUDIBLE]
>> ON THE GRANTS, THE MATCHING OR THE REIMBURSEMENT, THERE HAS TO BE A SHOW THAT THE CITY HAS ALLOCATED THOSE FUNDS TO MATCH.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN THE GRANT APPLICATION.
>> YES. NOW, THE PAPERWORK ON THE COLLIN COUNTY ONE, WE LEAN TOWARDS IT BECAUSE IT'S AN EASIER PROCESS.
THEY'RE MUCH EASIER TO WORK WITH.
THE EXAMPLES THAT I SAW FOR OTHER TOWNSHIPS THAT HAVE DONE THIS.
IT WAS BASICALLY, SHOW ME SOMETHING FROM YOUR CITY COUNCIL THAT SAYS THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED.
WHAT PROOF DO THEY WANT? YOUR STATEMENT THAT IT IS ALLOCATED.
>> WHAT'S THE OTHER SOURCE OF GRANT FUNDS OTHER THAN COLLIN COUNTY?
>> COLLIN COUNTY AND THE STATE.
>> CAN YOU APPLY FOR BOTH SIMULTANEOUS?
>> YOU CAN'T USE ONE USUALLY FOR THE OTHER, ONE HALF FOR THE OTHER HALF, TYPICALLY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 50 50.
>> BUT YOU CAN APPLY FOR BOTH SO THAT IF YOU DON'T GET ONE, YOU MAYBE GET THE OTHER, OR IF BOTH, THEN YOU CAN CHOOSE WHICH ONE YOU WILL WANT.
>> THERE'S A FEDERAL GRANT. WE DON'T EVER TO GO THERE.
>> QUICK QUESTION, FRANK. WHEN YOU TALK TO THE OTHER CITIES AND OTHER PAVILIONS AND, OF COURSE, MORE SO, MAYBE WITH THE RESTROOM AREAS AND SO FORTH, IS THERE ANY MAINTENANCE UPKEEP COST THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO KEEP THAT OPERATING? I THINK FOR THE PAVILION, PROBABLY NOT A WHOLE LOT EXCEPT FOR THERE MIGHT BE SOME PAINTING OF THIS OTHER ROOF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IN THE RESTROOMS, MAYBE MORE.
>> I DON'T HAVE A PRICE ON THAT.
WHEN WE SPOKE TO THE FELLOW IN LUCAS, HE MADE IT SOUND LIKE THEY DON'T FIND THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT A WHOLE LOT.
DID THEY SAY THEY LOCKED IT DURING THE EVENING OR NOT? NO, THEY JUST LEAVE IT OPEN, WHICH SURPRISED ME.
THEY HAD TWO OF THEM, AND THEY SAID, THE ONE FURTHER OUT, YES, THEY'D HAD PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE GOING IN THERE AND SLEEPING AND STUFF BECAUSE WE ASKED THAT.
BUT THE ONE CLOSER TO THE PAVILION, THEY DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM AT ALL.
>> THE OTHER THING THAT OF COURSE, THIS IS GET IN THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, BUT IN THE BUDGET REVIEW MEETING WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD, MR. MACHADO, HAD MENTIONED ABOUT HAVING SOME STORAGE BEHIND THE ACTUAL PAVILION, AND OR COULD THE RESTROOMS BE ABUTTED RIGHT TO THE BACK IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO SOMEBODY LIKE THAT, SO IT WOULD BE OPEN, MAYBE IT COULD BE ONE STRUCTURE ALTOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW.
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME IDEA.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STORAGE GENERALLY.
PARKER FEST IS RIGHT NOW OUT IN MY ATTIC.
>> I AGREE. WE DISCUSSED THAT AT THE LAST BUDGET MEETING THAT WE HAD.
I THINK IT WOULD REALLY BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO EXPLORE THE IDEA OF BUILDING THIS ALL AS ONE STRUCTURE.
THE PAVILION, THE RESTROOMS AND A STORAGE BUILDING ATTACHED TO THAT.
I THINK YOU'D HAVE SOME SYNERGY IN TERMS OF BUILDING COSTS THERE.
>> I AGREE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
>> THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOREVER AND HAS JUST NEVER COME TO BE, AND THEY'VE GOTTEN US THE DETAILS AND EVERYTHING.
THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. COUNCILMEMBER, NOE.
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMEND YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU DID TO RESEARCH GRANTS AND TRY TO FIND ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY.
JUST THANK EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THIS EFFORT TO PUT TOGETHER THIS PROPOSAL.
A COUPLE OF IDEAS HERE THAT I QUESTION ABOUT IS WITH RESPECT TO THE OVERALL LOCATION OF THE PAVILION IN THE ABSENCE OF HAVING A MASTER PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, I GUESS, ESTABLISHING THE PAVILION IN A LOCATION WITHOUT AT LEAST HAVING A BLOCK AROUND WHERE THE OTHER BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE LOCATED.
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I THINK THAT'S A CONCERN.I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SPACE OR IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO PUT SOMETHING NEAR THE PRESERVE.
BUT THAT PERHAPS OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR AN EVENT LIKE PARKER FEST SO IT WOULD HAVE LIMITED USE IF WE'D PUT IT THERE.
I THINK, BUT I WOULD WELCOME TO HERE JUST IF YOU CONSIDER THAT.
>> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PICTURE, THE TOP DOWN VIEW.
ORIGINALLY, WHEN I WAS DRAWING THIS UP, I HAD THEM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT.
BECAUSE WE KEEP THINKING, WELL, WHAT IF WE DECIDE TO REPLACE THE POLICE STATION WITH A POLICE STATION, BUT WE DON'T WANT THAT TO RUN INTO SOMETHING WE DID HERE.
THE ADVANTAGE THERE IS THE POWER IS ALL RIGHT THERE, BUT THAT'S SIGNBOARD.
I ALSO HAD A QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE POTENTIAL FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A GRANT FOR 50%? DOES IT HAVE TO BE FROM CITY FUNDS OR COULD IT BE SOMETHING LIKE WE DO FUND RAISING TOWARDS THIS PROJECT AND IT COMES FROM ANOTHER SOURCE?
>> NO. IT HAS TO BE ALL CITY FUNDING.
THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT IT IS FUNDED.
IF WE WERE TO SAY, THE CITY HAS DECIDED TO COMMIT THIS MUCH AND WE GO LOOKING FOR PRIVATE FUNDING FOR OTHER PIECES OF IT.
FRANKLY, THAT'S HOW THE GRANTS WOULD WORK.
>> I LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS THAT IF YOU DO GET GRASS ROOTS FROM THE CITY INPUT, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T FUND BUT A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF IT, IT STILL GIVES THAT UNIFIED EFFORT THAT THEY WERE PART OF MAKING THIS THING HAPPEN, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S COOL TO DO.
>> ANOTHER POINT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT I LOVE THE SPIRIT.
I LOVE THIS IDEA, AND I WANT TO GO TO CONCERTS HERE, SO DON'T GET ME WRONG IN TERMS OF A COMMENT I'M ABOUT TO MAKE, BUT JUST IN THE OVERALL PRIORITIZATION OF ALL THE PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING AT, WE JUST FINISHED THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WHERE WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY AND EFFORT TO PRIORITIZE THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE WANTED TO FUND FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE AND A PRIORITY FOCUS PERSPECTIVE.
I GUESS, IN MY SPIRIT, I WANT TO STAY TRUE TO THAT WORK AND FOCUS OUR ENERGY ON CITY FUNDED PROJECTS THAT CORRELATE WITH THAT PLAN.
BUT CAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS BE DONE WHERE WE SEEK FUNDRAISERS TO SUPPLY THE FUNDING BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S WITHIN REACH OF A FUNDRAISING EFFORT.
>> THAT'S ALL FAIR. OUR JOB IS TO BE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE PARKER SYSTEM.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> I'LL TELL YOU THIS. I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, AND I CERTAINLY LIKE THE IDEA OF LEVERAGING OUR EXPENDITURES WITH GRANTS AND OTHER FUNDS FROM OUTSIDE.
THOSE MONIES ARE GOING TO BE PAID OUT TO SOMEBODY.
THEY'RE ALLOCATED ALREADY IN A STATE BUDGET OR A COUNTY BUDGET.
THERE'S NO SAYING I'VE HEARD A CHURCH BEFORE.
SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET BLESSED TODAY IT MIGHT AS WELL BE ME.
SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET THAT MONEY.
IT MIGHT AS WELL BE THE CITY OF PARKER, AND WE NEED THINGS LIKE THAT TO HELP ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE CITY SO THAT ONCE WE GET THROUGH OUR BUILDING MORATORIUM, WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BUILD HOMES HERE, MAKE THIS A PLACE THAT THEY WANT TO LIVE, WHICH WILL INCREASE OUR TAX BASE.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.
THE WORST THING THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN IS WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET WITH A CONTINGENCY THAT WE GET AT LEAST SOME DEGREE OF ASSISTED FUNDING ON IT.
THE WORST THING THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN IS WE DON'T GET THE ASSISTED FUNDING, SO IT GOES UNSPENT IN THE BUDGET.
BUT I WOULD RATHER ALLOCATE IT SO THAT YOU COULD START MAKING THOSE APPLICATIONS FOR IT, AND IN THE MEANTIME, BE WORKING ON A PLAN ON WHERE YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT BE PUT IT.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T GET THE GRANTS [INAUDIBLE]
>> FRANK, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, IS THE GRANTS BEEN OFFERED EVERY YEAR BY THIS STATE AND THE COUNTY?
>> THESE ARE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT HISTORICALLY, THEY SHOW THAT THEY'VE FUNDED?
>> YES. THERE'S A WEBSITE, PARTICULARLY ON THE COLLIN COUNTY. I GUESS IT WAS 10.
THERE'S A WEBSITE THAT HAD, 20 OR 30 DIFFERENT TOWNSHIPS AROUND THAT HAD AVAILED THEMSELVES OF THESE FUNDS.
THEY WERE ALL THE ONES THAT APPLIED, AND THERE WERE A HANDFUL THAT WERE DENIED, JUST A FEW.
BUT THEY WERE ALL DOING THESE THINGS, PAVILIONS, PLAYGROUNDS, THINGS OF THIS SORT EVERY YEAR, AND THAT MONEY GETS ALLOCATED BY THE COUNTY.
>> MAYOR LEE HAS TOLD ME MANY TIMES THAT SOMETIMES THE GRANTS COME WITH THE NUMBER OF STRINGS ATTACHED.
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DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF STRINGS ATTACHED TO THESE PARTICULAR GRANTS?>> EXPLAIN A STRING. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO DO X, Y AND Z.
>> [INAUDIBLE] FEDERAL GRANTS.
>> THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE FEDERAL GRANTS.
I DON'T THINK THE STATE PUTS MANY REQUIREMENTS ON THEIRS.
THEN THE COUNTY IS WHATEVER THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DEEM IS THE APPROPRIATE.
>> THEN FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, WERE THESE FROM LUCAS OR WHERE DID YOU GET THE NUMBERS FROM THAT YOU PUT UP THERE?
>> THOSE NUMBERS ARE LARGELY LUCAS.
I DID LOOK AROUND ONLINE TO SEE WHAT OTHER TOWNS HAD DONE OF THE SAME THING.
LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THE RESTROOM FACILITY, THAT WAS 80 GRAND ANYWHERE YOU GO, THAT THING.
I THINK THE NUMBERS ARE REASONABLE.
ARE THEY + OR -20%? I DON'T KNOW.
>> I JUST WANT TO HAVE A QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
IN TERMS OF THE GRANT APPLICATION, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AS A CRITERIA FOR THE APPLICANT AN APPROVED BUDGET ITEM ON THE CITY'S RECORD OR WHAT IS THE APPLICATION REQUIRE?
>> WELL, THE EXAMPLES THAT I SAW, ONE OF THEM WAS JUST A LETTER FROM CITY COUNCIL SAYING IT HAS FUNDED.
THERE WASN'T A BUDGET DOCUMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
>> HOWEVER, THOUGH, I THINK IF YOU WERE TO GIVE THAT LETTER, IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET LINE ITEM THAT WAS TIED TO IT.
THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD DO THAT.
>> BUT IF YOU HAD JUST PRIVATE FUNDS, THROUGH DONATIONS AND FUND RAISING.
>> YOU'D HAVE TO SHOW IT SOMEHOW I WOULD IMAGINE.
>> I GUESS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT, IF WE JUST TRY TO WORK ON THIS FROM A PRIVATE FUNDING VERSUS A CITY BUDGET LINE ITEM TYPE OF FUNDING, ARE YOU STILL ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT? I THINK I'M HEARING YOU SAY YES.
WOULD WE LOVE TO HAVE THE CITY GO AHEAD AND WEIGH IN ON THIS SINCE IT BRINGS SO MUCH BENEFIT TO THE CITY LONG TERM? YEAH. I THINK THAT MAKES SOME SENSE.
>> BECAUSE WE COULD GO AHEAD AND ALLOCATE AND THEN TRY TO FUND RAISE, AND THE MORE WE FUND RAISE, THE LESS WE WOULD HAVE TO USE THE CITY'S FUNDS.
BUT IT WOULD BE THERE JUST IN CASE.
>> WE CAN USE THAT. IF WE GO LOOKING FOR PRIVATE FUNDING, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THEY'RE GOING TO ASK IS, DOES THE CITY CARE ABOUT THIS? IF WE SAY, WELL, NO, THEY WOULDN'T EVEN PUT IN A LINE ITEM, THEY'D SAY, WELL, WHY SHOULD I DO THAT? BUT IF THEY SAY, YES, THEY HAVE.
>> JUST ONE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT HAS TO BE ALLOCATED IN TERMS OF FUNDING IN ORDER TO GO GET THE GRANTS.
DO WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE 50% OF THE ANTICIPATED COST OR ALLOCATE 100% OF THE ANTICIPATED COSTS?
>> THAT'S FINE. THAT'S WHAT I EXPECTED.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.
>> AGAIN, I THANK ALL THE TEAM FOR, THINKING THROUGH THIS AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS FOR THE CITY.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO AUGMENT IT.
IF IT WERE TO GO ON AS A BUDGET ITEM, I WOULD SAY WITH THE CONTINGENCY THAT SAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FUND RAISING EFFORT TO OFFSET IT SOMEHOW.
IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN I WOULD RATHER NOT DO IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF HOOK THAT ALLOWS US TO INTERNALLY SEE HOW WE CAN FUND IT EITHER PRIVATELY OR THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.
>> I CONCUR WITH THAT. JUST GOING BACK TO THE CIP WHERE WE'VE GOT PRIORITIES THAT WE DOCUMENTED ON THE CIP AND THIS WOULD BE CIRCUMVENTING THAT WORK, AND I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO STAY TRUE TO THAT WORK FOR CITY FUNDED PROJECTS.
TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, I THINK PRIVATE FUNDING IS WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.
>> NO. THERE IS AN OPTION FOR THEM, WHAT YOU COULD DO IS ONCE THE APPLICATION PERIOD COMES OPEN IS A PARKS AND REC COULD COME TO YOU ALL WITH AN AGENDA ITEM, ASKING FOR IF THEY'VE DONE FUND RAISING OR ASKING FOR THAT DIFFERENCE, AND THEN YOU GUYS ARE GIVING APPROVAL AT THAT POINT FOR THAT APPLICATION TO GO.
THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW CITIES WOULD HANDLE THAT.
THAT IS AN OPTION YOU COULD DO COME BECAUSE USUALLY YOU GET ABOUT TWO MONTHS FOR THE APPLICATION.
I KNOW FOR THE COLLIN COUNTY ONE, AND I THINK THE STATE ONE YOU GET ABOUT TWO-AND-A-HALF MONTHS ON THAT ONE TOO.
THAT IS AN OPTION YOU COULD DO.
>> YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. I LIKE THAT IDEA.
>> LUKE HADN'T MENTIONED, I LIKE THAT IDEA, THEN THAT WAY, WE KEEP IT OPEN, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD LATER.
>> WELL, THAT DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL ASK,
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WHY SHOULD I DONATE? THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ALLOCATED? THAT DOESN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.THE OTHER THING IS, I GET ASKED FREQUENTLY.
WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO GO TO CELEBRATION PARK? WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO GO TO BOB WOODRUFF PARK? I PAY TAXES IN PARKER.
WHY DON'T I HAVE ANYTHING IN PARKER.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GRAND LETTERS THAT WANT AN ANSWER TO THAT.
>> WE WILL SEE THE DOWNSIDE OF HAVING A BUDGETARY LINE ITEM FOR THIS.
>> YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT THE BUDGETARY LINE ITEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON IS DEFINED IN THE CIP, AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FULLY FUND THAT SO FAR.
>> WAS THERE A REASON THIS WASN'T THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE CIP REGARDING THIS? DID [OVERLAPPING] NOT MEET THE CRITERIA?
>> NO. THERE ACTUALLY SHOULD BE A SECTION FOR PARKS AND REG.
>> WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
I THINK EARLIER DRAFTS DID HAVE A SECTION FOR PARK AND RECREATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT DURING OUR NEXT REVISION, ENSURE THAT THE BUDGET ALLOCATIONS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ITEMS ARE INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT.
I BELIEVE VERY EARLY REVISIONS HAD THAT SECTION, AND I THINK OVER TIME.
>> IT DIDN'T STAY IN, BUT THE INTENTION IS TO INCLUDE IT THERE.
>> BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE CIP FUND THAT HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF GETTING A 50% FUNDING THROUGH A GRANT?
>> THERE'S SEVERAL STREET GRANTS AND WATER GRANTS OUT THERE.
WHAT I ALSO JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE IS THE GREAT WORK THAT THIS COMMITTEE DID TO GO FIND GRANTS FOR THIS PROJECT.
I JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE ADDITIONAL HELP FOR, FINDING GRANTS FOR OUR OTHER PROJECTS TO GIVE US ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE ALL THE PROJECTS WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER.
>> THANKS VERY MUCH FRANK AND THE TEAM.
>> I THANK ALL OF PARKS AND REC FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
>> BEFORE WE LEAVE PARKS AND REC THOUGH, THERE ARE A COUPLE ITEMS THERE THAT WE PROBABLY DO NEED TO MAKE DECISION.
THOSE TWO LAST ITEMS THERE THAT HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF GRANT FUNDS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE TIME FRAME, THAT BOTH OF THOSE WOULD PROBABLY FALL WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, NOT THE ONE WE'RE WORKING ON.
I'M THINKING PROBABLY MORE BUDGETARY ITEMS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.
BUT THESE FIRST TWO ITEMS, I THINK WE PROBABLY OUGHT AT LEAST DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT TO ADD FUNDING FOR THESE TWO ITEMS. WHICH WOULD BE THE STAGE AND THEN THE SOUND EQUIPMENT.
BECAUSE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO ADD INTO THE BUDGET, HOW'S THE TIME WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT?
>> I THINK I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF ADDING THE BUDGET FOR THE PORTABLE STAGE.
I THINK THAT WOULD PROVIDE A LOT OF USE FOR THE CITY.
I THINK THAT DEMONSTRATION THAT WAS SHOWN IS REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE WHERE YOU CAN PUT THAT UP FOR PARKER FEST AND OTHER CONCERTS THAT WE MAY HAVE HERE.
I THINK IT'S USEFUL AND I THINK A REASONABLE COST AND PROVIDES A LOT OF USE.
WITH RESPECT TO THE SOUND SYSTEM, I GUESS I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION AND THAT IS IF WE HAVE AN ENTERTAINER COM, THEY TYPICALLY BRING ALL THEIR OWN SOUND EQUIPMENT WITH THEM.
>> I MIGHT WEIGH A LITTLE BIT ON THAT ONE.
>> THIS IS HELPFUL DISCUSSION. THANK YOU.
>> TYPICALLY, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT OUTSIDE VENUES, TYPICALLY, LIKE FOR MY BAND THAT I PLAY, AND FOR EXAMPLE, INSIDE VENUES, WE HAVE OUR OWN PA SYSTEM, AND WE BRING THAT AND WE USUALLY DO THAT IN MOST VENUES.
ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE LARGER VENUES, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SYSTEM, ACTUALLY, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING THAT.
BUT WHAT IT USUALLY DOES IS THAT THE RATE IS DETERMINED BY IF YOU BRING THAT OR YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SOUND GUY AND BRING IT, THEN THE RATE IS AUGMENTED BY THAT.
FOR AN OUTSIDE VENUE LIKE PARKER FEST, YOU'RE TALKING ANYWHERE BETWEEN I WOULD SAY 1,500 AND $2,500 FOR THE PA SYSTEM AND THE SOUND GUY.
FOR THAT 20 GRAND, IT WOULD BASICALLY BE PROBABLY 10 SHOWS.
TEN SHOWS, YOU'D BE OFFSETTING IT.
YOU STILL WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE A SOUND GUIDE ON THE SOUND, BUT IT WOULD AUGMENT THAT SOUND.
THAT'S THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WHEN IT'S AN OUTSIDE VENUE LIKE THAT, NORMALLY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT EQUIPMENT FOR THEIR BAND.
WE USUALLY RENT THAT FROM SOMEWHERE.
>> THANK YOU. THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL INFORMATION.
I GUESS WITH THAT ADDITIONAL CONTEXT, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SOUND SYSTEM.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION WHERE WE WOULD STORE IT.
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>> FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AND I HEARD WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER JIM HARE SAID, BUT WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN TERMS OF COSTS BEING ADDED ON AS YOU'RE BRINGING IN A BAND FOR THE SOUND SYSTEM? [LAUGHTER]
>> WHAT ARE YOU GETTING CURRENTLY CHARGED WHEN THEY'RE HAVING TO BRING IN THEIR SIGN SYSTEM FOR THE CONCERTS THAT YOU PUT ON THIS FAR?
>> IN THE TWO INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE THIS HAPPEN, ONE WAS AN UP CHARGE OF MAYBE 25%, THE OTHER WAS MORE LIKE 50%.
INSTEAD OF $1,100, IT'S MORE LIKE $2,100.
FOR THE SIGN PERSON IS THAT ALSO PART OF THE ONE $1,000 UP CHARGE OR?
>> THAT WILL BE PART OF IT YEAH.
>> USUALLY WHEN YOU RENT THE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT, THEY ARE SOUND ENGINEERS.
THEY HAVE A SUITE OF SOUND ENGINEERS, AND THEN YOU HAVE A GUY THAT COMES WITH IT WHEN THEY BRING IT.
>> SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A SOUND ENGINEER, THEN FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, EVEN IF WE HAVE A SOUND SYSTEM, WHAT WOULD IT COST US THEN TO BRING IN A SOUND ENGINEER?
>> THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 100 OR $200 DEAL FOR THEM TO RUN IT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU SET IT UP AND IT'S READY TO GO.
THEY JUST COME WITH AN IPAD AND DO IT.
>> IS THAT EASY TO GET SOMEONE TO COME IN FOR $100 AND $200 TO RUN THE SOUND SYSTEM BY ONE TIME?
>> I THINK SO BECAUSE THE SETUP AND TEAR DOWN IS THE BIG THING THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR.
YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE RENTAL EQUIPMENT PLUS THE SETUP AND TEAR DOWN.
IF THEY JUST SHOW UP WITH THEIR VEHICLE AND AN IPAD AND SHOW UP AND RUN THE SOUND AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEY DISCONNECT THE IPAD AND WALK OUT.
>> I HAD A QUESTION BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST BUDGET SESSION, SOMETIMES WE'LL NEED TO MOVE IN AND THE COUNCIL, MEANING ELSEWHERE OUT OF THIS ROOM, BUT WE LACK A SOUND SYSTEM.
THE QUESTION THEN IS, BUT THIS MIGHT BE COMPLICATED TO MOVE A LARGE SOUND SYSTEM SOMEPLACE.
BUT FROM YOUR PICTURE WHEN YOU SHOW ONE PERSON UP THERE, POTENTIALLY, IS THE SOUND SYSTEM ABLE TO TAKE CHUNKS OF IT IN SIZE DOWN?
>> YOU WILL WANT TO DO THAT. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ENOUGH TO HANDLE A FULL BAND IN AN OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT WITH LOTS OF POWER, BUT IF YOU'VE STOOD SOMETHING SMALLER THAT JUST USE THE MAIN SPEAKERS, YOU WOULDN'T NEED THE MONITORS, PROBABLY. YOU COULD SIZE IT DOWN.
>> YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT TO KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS AVAILABLE?
>> I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVEN SOMETIMES JUST THE MONITORS, IF YOU HAVE POWERED MONITORS, I'D SUGGEST YOU PROBABLY HAVE A POWERED SYSTEM.
THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE DO HAVE SEPARATE POWER AMPS.
THEN YOU COULD TAKE A PIECE OF IT BRING IN LIKE YOU WOULD NEED, AND THEN YOU JUST HAVE YOUR SMALLER SECTIONS.
WHEN YOU PURCHASE EVERYTHING, YOU PURCHASE AND IT'S MODULAR, THAT YOU'D HAVE A BROKEN DOWN SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE SMALLER, THAT YOU COULD DO IN THE FIREHOUSE IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THERE, OR IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING INTERNAL HERE, THAT WAS MORE OF AN EVENT WHERE YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT BETTER PA SYSTEM.
YOU COULD BREAK IT DOWN AND DO PART OF THAT AS WELL.
YOU WOULD PURCHASE IT IN THAT REGARD THAT YOU COULD DO IT.
>> I AFFIRM THAT. THE THINGS WE'VE LOOKED AT ARE ALL POWERED, SO YOU COULD JUST TAKE ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MICROPHONE AND GO, YOU DON'T EVEN NEED THE MIXER. YOU COULD DOWNSIZE.
>> WE HAVE HAD OUTDOOR THINGS FOR THE COLLIN COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY WHEN THEY GAVE US A SIGN MARKER.
WE HAD AN EVENT OUTSIDE FOR DONNA TAYLOR.
WE HAD A VETERAN STILL AT ONE TIME WHERE WE USED.
>> OR IF YOU RENT IN ANOTHER VENUE, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE GOING TO DO A FUND RAISER FOR THE PAVILION, AND WE'RE GOING TO RENT OVER IN SOUTH FORKS OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT.
YOU GO AND YOU RENT THE ROOM, BUT GUESS WHAT, YOU DON'T HAVE A PA SYSTEM, YOU DON'T HAVE MICROPHONES, YOU DON'T HAVE ALL AIR STUFF THAT GOES WITH IT.
YOU BUILD YOUR OWN PA SYSTEM OVER THERE AND NOW YOU HAVE SOUND WHERE YOU CAN HEAR THE AUCTIONEER, YOU CAN HEAR IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MUSIC PLAN OR A BAND OR WHATEVER.
>> DOES THE SOUND EQUIPMENT DOES IT NEED TO BE IN A TEMPERATURE CONTROL ENVIRONMENT?
>> NO, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE.
I LEAVE MY STUFF OUT OF MY GARAGE, SO IT SHOULD BE OKAY.
IT'S MEANT TO TAKE THAT TEMPERATURE CYCLING IF IT'S OUTSIDE.
IT IS GOOD TO MAKE SURE IT HAS GOOD COVERS ON IT, BUT THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND LIKE THE FLIGHT COVERS LIKE YOU WOULD SEE WITH A BAND.
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WE'RE TIGHT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT SPIDERS AND INSECTS AND STUFF GETTING IN THERE.THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT AS FAR AS IT CAN BE IN AN AREA THAT'S NOT AIR CONDITIONED.
>> COUNSEL, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FIRST AND SECOND, THE SOUND STAGE AND THE SOUND EQUIPMENT IN THE BUDGET AND HOLD UP ON THE OTHER TWO ITEMS UNTIL MAYBE OUR NEXT FUNDING PERIOD, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PATH.
>> THE ONLY THING IS, I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY THAT IT NEEDED TO BE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, NOT TO BE SPENT THIS YEAR, BUT IT HAD TO BE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO MAKE APPLICATION THIS YEAR.
THAT'S WHY I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO GET SPENT.
>> WE HAVE TO APPLY NEXT YEAR, BUT WE HAVE TO APPLY ANYWHERE FROM FEBRUARY TO JUNE.
>> IT WOULD BE IN THIS FISCAL BUDGET? MIDDLE OF THE CALENDAR YEAR NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU WOULD MAKE THE APPLICATION.
CORRECT. WE WOULD NEED TO PUT IT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
>> KNOCK IT INTO NEXT YEAR, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY TO SAY.
>> SORRY, I PREVIOUSLY HEARD HIM SAY THAT HE CAN USE 100% PRIVATE FUNDS AND GO FOR THE GRANT, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN OUR BUDGET, DID I MISUNDERSTAND?
>> NO. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
DO I BELIEVE I'M GOING TO GET 100% PRIVATE FUNDS? NO.
RIGHT. BUT IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR.
THE APPLICATION DOES NOT REQUIRE IT TO BE ON THE BUDGET.
IF WE'RE JUST DOING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE CAN SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.
>> WE NEED TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS, AND IF WE HAVEN'T RAISED PRIVATE FUNDS, WE CAN'T ALLOCATE WHAT WE HAVEN'T RAISED.
WE COULD ALLOCATE BUDGET FUNDS FOR THIS AND DECIDE NOT TO SPEND IT IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT TO GO WITH IT, BUT WE HAVE NO CHANCE OF GETTING THE GRANT UNLESS WE ALLOCATE THE FUNDS IN THE BUDGET.
THAT'S WHERE I GO BACK TO HAVE THEM COME BACK WITH THE APPLICATION PERIOD.
WE DO HAVE RESERVES AND ACCOUNTS THAT WE'VE MADE GOOD MONEY ON WITH OUR INVESTMENTS, AND THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD MAKE A DECISION AT THAT TIME.
>> WAY LIKE THAT, AND THE FACT THAT MAYBE AT THE SAME TIME WHILE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT IDEAS FOR THE FUND RAISING, OPTIONS.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE THING I WOULD WANT THAT ASTERIX WITH IS THAT AT LEAST THE FUND RAISING OPTION WOULD HAPPEN.
WHAT THE AMOUNT OF THE FUND RAISING IS, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, EVERYBODY ELSE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT THAT IT HAD TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUND RAISING FROM THE CITY OR PRIVATELY.
BUT I AT LEAST WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET SOME SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT AND THAT'S TIED TO IT.
BUT I'D BE OKAY WITH COMING IN GETTING AN APPROVAL DURING THE TIME OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
>> MECHANISM FOR THAT AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY COME WITH GRANT OR SOMEONE LIKE IN BEFORE JUNE.
BEFORE THE APPLICATION DEADLINE.
>> IN THIS PURCHASE, IF WE WERE TO DO THE PAVILION IN THE FACILITY, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PAID OUT OF THE FACILITY FUND.
RIGHT NOW IN THE FACILITY FUND, WE HAVE A $300,000 EXPENSE LINE ITEM.
AT A FUTURE DATE, I WOULD SAY THERE'S 300,000 THAT'S ALLOCATED AND IF COUNCIL DECIDED AT THAT POINT, I GUESS YOU COULD USE.
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. SINCE THAT'S IN THAT FUND ALREADY, YOU ALMOST COULD SAY.
>> JUST FOR CLARITY, THE FACILITIES FUND IS ALSO THE FUND THAT WE WOULD USE TO BUILD A NEW CITY HALL AND A NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> CORRECT. IT WOULD BE ANY FACILITY TOP ITEMS, THE PAVILION, BATHROOMS, CITY HALL, POLICE STATION.
>> NEW POLICE STATION. THANK YOU.
>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, THE 300,000 FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF RAISING PUBLIC FUNDS.
I THINK YOU COULD GO OUT WITH MAYBE SOME TYPE OF DEAL WHERE YOU SAY, THE CITY WOULD MATCH WHATEVER IT COMES IN FROM A PUBLIC PERSPECTIVE, AND WE WOULD SEE WHAT INTEREST WE GET FROM THE PUBLIC ITSELF.
WE'VE GOT THE MONEY THERE IN THE FACILITIES FUND IF WE DECIDE TO GO THAT DIRECTION, BUT WE COULD IDENTIFY FIRST FROM A PUBLIC PERSPECTIVE WHAT THE INTEREST LEVEL IS BY DOING SOME TYPE OF MATCHING FUND RAISING, WHICH WOULD GIVE US, I THINK A GOOD IDEA.
>> BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR ME, THE PRIORITY IN THE FACILITIES FUND IS THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT.
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>> I AGREE A NEW POLICE FACILITY IS IMPORTANT PRIORITY, BUT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, $300,000 ISN'T A DROP IN THE BUCKET FOR THE POLICE FACILITY.
I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD MAKE THE DIFFERENCE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE GO FORWARD WITH EITHER ONE OF THESE THINGS.
EVEN IF WE ALLOCATED $230,000 TO THE MULTI USE PAVILION AND THE RESTROOM FACILITY IN THE IDEAL SITUATION, WE'D ONLY SPEND HALF OF THAT MONEY BECAUSE WE'D GET HALF OF IT IN A GRANT.
THE AMOUNT THAT IT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THE POLICE BUILDING IS IRRELEVANT, IN MY OPINION.
>> IF YOU WANT THE MATCHING FUNDS, YOU'D ONLY ACTUALLY SPEND A QUARTER.
>> A GRANT AND HALF OF OUR SECTION WOULD BE PUBLIC FUNDS.
YOU'RE ONLY SPENDING A QUARTER OF THAT TOTAL AMOUNT.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN COUNT ON RAISING HALF OF IT IN VOLUNTEER CONTRIBUTIONS.
[LAUGHTER] THERE IS LOT OF CAKES.
>> WE'LL ADD THE STAGE AND THE EQUIPMENT TO THE CURRENT BUDGET, AND JUST I'LL REBALANCE THE BUDGET PROBABLY SAME WAY I DID THIS TIME WITH THE TRANSFER TO TREE CONSTRUCTION.
I USE THAT TO REBALANCE IT. THAT'S OKAY WITH THAT.
>> WHY DO YOU SAY REBALANCE IT TO THE STREET CONSTRUCTION FUND?
>> WELL, SO WHENEVER LIKE, FROM THE CHANGES FROM LAST WEEK TO THIS WEEK, ANY OF THE EXTRA FUNDS THAT CAME IN, I PUT TO THE STREET CONSTRUCTION, JUST TO BALANCE IT.
>> BRINGING IT BACK AND FORTH?
>> IS THAT EVERYTHING? ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE BUDGET? THEN AT THIS TIME, IT IS 5:22, WE ARE CLOSING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, AND MOVING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR GREAT WORKSHOP.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL CONVENE THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING.
IT IS AUGUST 6, 2024 AT 5:23 P.M. MR. OLSON, I'LL AGAIN ASK YOU, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM?
>> OKAY. WE'RE LOSING EVERYBODY.
[LAUGHTER] I WAS GOING TO HAVE YOU DO THE PLEDGE.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> LUCY, WOULD YOU DO THE AMERICAN PLEDGE AND WHO WANTS TO DO THE TEXAS PLEDGE? RANDY, YOU DO THE TEXAS PLEDGE.
>> [LAUGHTER] THERE'LL BE A TEST SLATE.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?
>> I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENT.
>> I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENT.
I WILL ANNOUNCE SOME THINGS ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
ONE, PLANNING AND ZONING IS SCHEDULED TO MEET THURSDAY, AUGUST 8, AT 5:00 P.M AND THEY WILL BE DISCUSSING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND.
NEXT, PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION IS MEETING AUGUST 14 IN THIS ROOM AT 5:00 P.M. AGAIN, IT'S OPEN TO ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS AGAIN MEETING ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 22 AT 5:00 P.M. IS THAT THE DATE YOU'RE GOING ON SOUTH FORK?
>> SOUTH FORK HAS REQUESTED REZONING OF THEIR FACILITY FROM
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BEING IN AN ACTIVITY DISTRICT TO BEING RESIDENTIAL, IS THAT CORRECT, MR. OLSON?>> PART OF IT, YES. THOUGH THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT MANSION IN THE HOUSES, NOT THE HOUSES, THE [OVERLAPPING] EVENT CENTER STUFF THERE.
IT'S JUST THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH OF THAT PROPERTY. I'M SORRY.
>> THAT'S THURSDAY, AUGUST 22, AT AT 5:00 P.M.
IN THIS ROOM, THAT MEETING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME IS WELCOME.
NEXT IS THE RESIGNATION OF OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR, MR. OLSON, WHO IS LEAVING US ON AUGUST 30.
WE WILL BE POSTING A POSITION FOR A NEW CITY ADMINISTRATOR VERY SHORTLY.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT JUST REAL BRIEFLY IS TOMORROW AUGUST 7 AT 1:00 P.M, NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICTS WATER POLICY IS CONSIDERING PARKER'S REQUEST FOR A SECOND TYPE POINT.
NOW, THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO GET A YES OR NO.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS, IF THEY FEEL POSITIVE ABOUT IT, THEY REFER IT TO THE FULL NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD, AND IT WILL BE PUT ON AN AGENDA AT SOME DATE.
IF THEY ARE NEGATIVE TO IT, WELL, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
I HAVE UNDERSTOOD FROM SENATOR PAXTON'S OFFICE THAT IT IS GOING TO BE LIVE STREAMED, BUT I'VE ALSO HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE THAT IT WON'T BE LIVE STREAMED.
I GUESS WHAT YOU DO IS IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT, YOU TURN ON YOUR DEAL AND IT'S EITHER THERE OR IT'S NOT.
BUT THAT'S PROGRESS, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
NEXT, WE WILL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA,
[CONSENT AGENDA]
AND EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED CORRECTED MINUTES WHEN YOU GOT HERE TONIGHT, EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL.THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSIST OF APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES FOR JULY 16, 2024, MEETING MINUTES FOR JULY 23, MEETING MINUTES FOR JULY 30.
COUNCIL, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WANTS ANYTHING PULLED OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, I WOULD TAKE A MOTION.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED IN THE PACKET WITH THE ADDITION OF THE CORRECTIONS TO THE MEETING MINUTES THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THAT MOTION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER NOE AND A SECOND FROM MAYOR PRO TEMRED TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA MEETING MINUTES AS CORRECTED AND THE REST AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED.
[5. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-803 SETTING A PROPOSED TAX RATE; AND APPROVING DATES, TIMES; AND A LOCATION FOR ONE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED FY 2024-2025 1 BUDGET AND TAX RATE, AND A DATE FOR THE VOTE ON THE ADOPTION OF THE 2024-2025 BUDGET AND APPROVAL OF A TAX RATE.]
INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, WE'LL GO TO NUMBER 5.CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-803, SETTING A PROPOSED TAX RATE AND APPROVING DATES, TIMES AND A LOCATION FOR ONE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 BUDGET AND TAX RATE AND A DATE FOR THE VOTE ON THE ADOPTION OF THE 2024-2025 BUDGET AND APPROVAL OF THE TAX RATE.
>> SLASH OUT REAL QUICK HERE. I'LL RUN THROUGH.
>> THAT'S DRILLING. [LAUGHTER]
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>> JUST TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE CALENDAR OF WHERE WE'RE STANDING AT RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE.
FRIDAY, I FILED A PROPOSED BUDGET WITH THE CITY SECRETARY AND POSTED THAT ON THE WEBSITE.
TONIGHT, WE'LL BE VOTING ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 3, WE'LL BE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE AND BUDGET AND ALSO TAKING FINAL ACTION ON THOSE ITEMS. THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT.
WE NEED TO, LIKE I SAID, TAKE A RECORD VOTE ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN ANNOUNCE THE ADOPTION DATE.
THE PROPOSED TAX CEILING THAT'S PRESENTED TO TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE THE DEMINIMUS RATE, WHICH IS THE MAX RATE THAT WE CAN HAVE WITHOUT HAVING AN ELECTION.
THAT RATE IS GOING TO BE 0.310439, AND THAT'S THE RATE THAT WAS USED TO PREPARE THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
OUR CURRENT TAX RATE RIGHT NOW IS 0.322680, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A REDUCTION OF A LITTLE OVER $0.1.
TAX RATE CALCULATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US.
THERE'S THREE THAT LOOK AT THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE RATE THAT'S GOING TO RAISE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE AS THE PREVIOUS YEAR, VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE RATE TO RAISE 3.5 PERCENT MORE REVENUE THAN THE YEAR BEFORE, AND THE DE MINIMIS RATE, WHICH ALLOWS SMALLER CITIES SUCH AS OURSELVES WITH THE POPULATION UNDER 30,000 TO RAISE ADDITIONAL 500,000 THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
SINCE OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE DOES EXCEED THE VOTER APPROVAL AND NO NEW REVENUE, WE WILL BE ALLOWED TO USE THE DE MINIMIS RATES AS WE FALL ON THAT CITY SIZE.
AS FAR AS THE TAX RATE CALCULATION OVERVIEW BETWEEN THE TWO YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DEBT RATE IS REALLY FELL BETWEEN '23-'24, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE OF BONDS COMING BEING PAID FOR AND USING FUND BALANCE TO PAY DOWN SOME OF THOSE OUTSTANDING BALANCES.
THE PROPOSED M&O RATE IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE YEAR BEFORE, BUT THEN THE DEBT RATES REALLY WHAT FELL.
THAT'S WHY OUR TAX RATE IS GOING TO BE DOWN TO 310439.
IT'S NOT REAL COMMON TO SEE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE BEING LOWER THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE DEBT STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, DEBT PAYMENTS BEING LOWER.
AS I SAID EARLIER, THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IS GOING TO BE THE 310439 PREVIOUS YEAR, AND SINCE IT EXCEEDS THE NO NEW REVENUE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A RECORD VOTE, AND A PUBLIC HEARING HAS TO BE SCHEDULED.
THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 3, 2024 AT 7:00 P.M AT THE CITY HALL, AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AS WELL.
I DID LEAVE A MOTION ON EVERYONE'S TABLE JUST BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE SPECIFIC ON WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE MOTION.
IT HAS TO SAY THOSE THINGS IN THERE.
THAT'S WHY I LEFT A PIECE OF PAPER FOR EVERYONE.
>> IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE TAX RATE? YES, SIR.
IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE NO NEW REVENUE, AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATE.
THE QUESTION IS THAT I REMEMBER FROM A PREVIOUS MEETING THAT WE SAID, HEY, FOR EVERY CENT THAT WE BASICALLY ADD TO OUR TAX RATE, WE GET ABOUT $180 IN REVENUE.
THIS WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE GOING A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO CENTS UP, BUT WE'RE ADDING 500,000, RIGHT?
>> CORRECT. IT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE OF THE NEW VALUES ADDED TO THE PROPERTY.
>> BUT ISN'T THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX BASICALLY SAY THE REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY PERIOD, REGARDLESS OF THE VALUATIONS?
>> NO, THE NO NEW REVENUE TAKES OUT THE ANY NEW VALUE ADDED.
IT'S COMPARING THE VALUE OF LAST YEAR TO THE VALUE OF THIS YEAR.
>> FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT EXISTED IN BOTH THE YEAR.
>> THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE ADDED OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR IS WHAT IS ADDING TO THE CALCULATION SO THAT ACTUALLY THE 500,000 ISN'T INSTEAD 360 OR WHATEVER?
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAVAGE? IF NOT, I WOULD ACCEPT THE MOTION.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-803 TO ADOPT A PROPOSED TAX RATE
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OF $0.310439 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025, NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE OF 0.294324, AND CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2024, 2025 BUDGET AND TAX RATE WILL BE HELD BY SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024 AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
FURTHER, A RECORD VOTE ON THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024 AT 7:00 PM.
ALL MEETINGS WILL BE HELD IN THE PARKER CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 5,200 EAST PARKER ROAD, PARKER, TEXAS 75002. OKAY.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MOTION ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.
I WILL ASK MR. KERCHO, HOW DO YOU VOTE? IN FAVOR OR AGAINST?
>> IN THAT CASE, I SHOW THAT MAYOR PETTLE, JIM REED VOTES IN FAVOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER NOE VOTES IN FAVOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO VOTES IN FAVOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM VOTES IN FAVOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER FECHT IS NOT HERE TONIGHT TO VOTE.
NOW WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 6,
[6. PROVISION OF AMBULANCE SERVICE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING 10/1/2024 FIRE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION BY FIRE CHIEF MIKE SHEFF CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION RESOLUTION NO. 2024 804. ]
PROVISION OF AMBULANCE SERVICES FOR THE PHYSICAL YEAR COMMENCING 101-'24.I SEE FIRE CHEF IS ON HIS WAY TO THE PODIUM TO TELL US ABOUT IT.
>> YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE POWERPOINT AND PREPARED BEFORE WHICH PROVIDES SOME OF THE BACKSTORY, SOME OF THE OPTIONALITY WE HAVE AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IN A NUTSHELL, FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN PART OF AN EMS COALITION, WHICH IN TURN WORKED WITH A PRIVATE AMBULANCE OR JUST TO PROVIDE PARKER.
NO I ONE AMBULANCES FOR OVER 20 YEARS, I THINK RIGHT ABOUT NOW.
IN THE LATEST CONTRACT, WHICH EXPIRES THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE USED A PROVIDER THAT ORIGINALLY WAS EAST TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER AND A UNIT OF THAT.
THAT TRANSITIONED FROM A NOT FOR PROFIT TO A FULL PROFIT EQUITY GROUP THAT ACQUIRED THE OPERATION.
ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT.
SINCE THAT TIME, SEVERAL THINGS HAVE OCCURRED WITH THIS THIRD PARTY PROVIDER, ONE OF WHICH IS WE, THIS COALITION AREA IS THE ONLY REMAINING 911 SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE IN TEXAS.
IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, CITY OF WYLIE DETERMINED THEY WANTED TO BRING AMBULANCE SERVICE IN HOUSE.
UP TO THIS POINT, THEY HAVE AMBULANCES, WHICH THEY USED TO BACK UP THE AMBULANCES, THE THIRD PARTY PROVIDER.
WE HAVE SEPARATELY CONTRACTED WITH THE CITY OF WYLIE FOR BACKUP AMBULANCE SERVICE WHEN THE PRIMARY AMBULANCE IS NOT AVAILABLE.
WITH THE CITY OF WYLIE, WHICH CONTRIBUTES ROUGHLY 80% OF THE DEMAND FOR AMBULANCES OF THIS COALITION PULLING OUT, THE THIRD PARTY AMBULANCE PROVIDER SAID, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE PRACTICAL FOR US TO CONTINUE ANYMORE.
THE CITY OF PARKER NOW HAS SEVERAL OPTIONS WE CAN CONSIDER.
WE CAN TRY TO DO IT ALL OURSELVES, RUN AN AMBULANCE, WHICH INVOLVES AS YOU SAW IN THE PACKAGE.
HIRING FULL TIME STAFF, YOU NEED AT LEAST SIX PLUS, USUALLY, WE CAN PULL A BACKUP FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT GENERALLY THAT'S SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF COMMITMENT, IN ADDITION TO BUYING AN AMBULANCE, ACTUALLY AN AMBULANCE, AND A BACKUP AMBULANCE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE 24/7 TO RUN THAT AMBULANCE IN ADDITION TO THE FIRE TRUCKS.
THE OTHER OPTION IS WE COULD TEAM WITH LUCAS OR MURPHY, THEY HAVE AMBULANCES, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE ONE AMBULANCE, AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF A COST EFFECTIVE PARTNERSHIP WHERE THEY HAVE TO GIVE UP SOMETHING TO COVER OUR CITY IS, IN MY OPINION, UNLIKELY, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS AN OPTION.
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I PROVIDED IN THE PACKAGE, AND I SHOULD HAVE IT WITH ME, I SHOULD PULL IT UP, BUT A LIST OR A REVIEW OF THE PER CAPITA AMBULANCES OF MANY OF THE CITIES AROUND US, INCLUDING DALLAS, PLANO, AND OTHERS.I JUST DON'T QUOTE THE WRONG NUMBERS.
I HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE REAL FAST.
THOSE NUMBERS GENERALLY YOU ARE GOING TO COME TO ABOUT 21,000 ON AVERAGE, ONE AMBULANCE FOR 21,000 PEOPLE.
THE COALITION TODAY COVERS THAT.
WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING, COUNSEL AGREE TO IS THE FOLLOWING.
CITY WYLIE HAS OFFERED TO ALL OF THE EXISTING COALITION MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PROVIDE AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE AMBULANCE SERVICE PURSUANT TO THE CONTRACT THAT YOU HAVE I'VE CIRCULATED.
IN THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT, WE HAVE FOUR AMBULANCES AVAILABLE TO OUR ROUGHLY 70,000 PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
WYLIE WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THOSE SAME AMBULANCES.
A KEY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WHEREAS IN ORDER TO INDUCE THE PRIVATE AMBULANCE SERVICE TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THIS AREA, THE COALITION PERMITTED THEM TO DO NINE NON-EMERGENCY TRANSFERS BETWEEN HOSPITALS.
THAT WAS THEIR WAY OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR KEEPING THE AMBULANCES HERE.
THAT WILL NOT BE PART OF THE WYLIE PROPOSAL, WHICH IS THEY WILL BE PROVIDING ONLY 911 AMBULANCES.
BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY ACTUALLY CAN RUN THREE AMBULANCES, KEEP IT FULLY STAFFED, KEEP ONE AVAILABLE AS A BACKUP, WHICH THEY CURRENTLY DO NOW, AND STAFF IT WITH THEIR PERSONNEL, WHICH THEY CURRENTLY DO NOW.
THE EQUIVALENT IS WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANYTHING.
UP TO THIS POINT, THE FOUR AMBULANCES HAVE COVERED 94% OF OUR RUNS THIS QUARTER ENDING MARCH AND 96%, I THINK FOR THE FULL YEAR OF THE PRIOR YEAR SAID DIFFERENTLY, IT WORKS.
WHEN WE CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE, IT'S WE'RE THERE TO COVER IT.
WHEN THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN THOSE FEW INSTANCES, WE'VE RELIED ON A MURPHY OR A LUCAS AMBULANCE.
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE BASICALLY THE CLOSEST TO OUR CITY BEING CONTIGUOUS.
RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF WYLIE POST ONE OF THE AMBULANCES RIGHT AT OUR BORDER ACTUALLY.
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT, I'LL POINT OUT IN THE CONTRACT.
THEY ARE NOT COMMITTING TO KEEP SOMETHING SOMEWHERE.
IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THEM, BUT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, THEIR OWN CITY HAS GROWN CLOSER TO US ALSO, AND THEY MADE THE DECISION TO MOVE THAT AMBULANCE TO THE POINT THAT IS IN THEIR STATION 4 BECAUSE IT WAS MOST PRACTICAL FOR THEM NOT NECESSARILY FOR PARKER, BUT WE RODE THEIR COAT TAILS.
IT WAS VERY NICE. THE COST OF THE PROGRAM IS ROUGHLY $76,000 ANNUALLY TO THE CITY OF PARKER.
THAT NUMBER COMES FROM THE FOLLOWING.
WYLIE HAS, OVER THIS PAST YEAR, DEVELOPED STAFFED ROUGHLY 10 MEMBERS INTO A EMS DIVISION.
THESE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE JUST GOING TO BE ON THEIR AMBULANCE PLUS ONE SUPERVISOR, AND THEN THEY HAD AN ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATOR.
SIMILAR TO OUR PRIVATE AMBULANCE COMPANY.
THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE FIREFIGHTERS, MEDICS. THEY'RE PURELY MEDICS.
IN ADDITION, THEY UPGRADED AND ACQUIRED ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT, ETC.
THEY'RE PREPARED NOW TO TRANSITION TO AN IN HOUSE UNIT.
THE OFFER ON THE TABLE FROM WYLIE IS THEY WILL TAKE THAT TOTAL DIVISIONAL COST.
THEY WILL LOOK AT THEIR COLLECTIONS FROM THE BILLINGS OF THE PATIENTS TO COME UP WITH A NET COST.
WE WILL BE CHARGED OUR PERCENTAGE ON THAT NET COST.
NOW, THE PERCENTAGE IS GOING TO BE BASED ON THE AMBULANCE RUNS IN TOTAL FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS PART OF THIS, CALL IT A COALITION AGAIN.
IF AN AMBULANCE IS DISPATCHED BUT IS DISREGARDED, THAT WILL NOT COUNT.
IF THEIR AMBULANCES GO ON MUTUAL AID ELSEWHERE. THAT WILL NOT COUNT.
THESE ARE AMBULANCES THAT ACTUALLY ARRIVE AT THE SCENE OF THE INCIDENT.
WE'RE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 7% OF THE COALITION BASED ON THE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR, WE'LL BE AT 4%.
THIS PERCENTAGE WILL CHANGE EACH YEAR EACH JANUARY.
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THEY'LL LOOK BACKWARDS, CALCULATE THE PERCENTAGES AND WE'D BE CHARGED THAT PERCENT.THERE'S A KEY IMPORTANT FACT HERE THOUGH.
THE NET NUMBER THOSE COLLECTIONS ARE GOING TO INCREASE EACH YEAR.
WYLIE MADE A DECISION THAT THEY WERE GOING TO ASSUME THEY COLLECT 10% OF THEIR GROSS BILLINGS IN THAT FIRST YEAR.
THESE ARE COLLECTIONS, NOT NECESSARILY BAD RECEIVABLES, BUT THIS IS TAKING 180-360 DAYS IN ORDER TO COLLECT AS TYPICAL MEDICAL RECEIVABLES CAN.
FROM THAT, YOU'LL REDUCE IT FOR CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS BETWEEN THE VARIOUS PRIVATE INSURERS OF OUR CITIZENS AS WELL AS GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THAT WILL BE PAYING FOR SOME OF THIS.
THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THEY SHOULD RECEIVE A GREATER PERCENTAGE, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW COLLECTING, SAY THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF THEIR RUNS FROM 2025 FISCAL YEAR, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THEIR BILLING THEIR SUCCESSFUL BILLINGS WILL GO UP BECAUSE ERRORS WILL BE LESS.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LEARNING CURVE EACH YEAR.
THEY'RE USING A THIRD PARTY BILLING AGENCY, BUT THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THERE'S A LEARNING CURVE.
AS A RESULT, THERE'S A VERY GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT AS THOSE PERCENTAGE COLLECTIONS GROW, THE COST OF PARKER ACTUALLY WILL EITHER LEVEL OFF OF.
WE DID SOME EXERCISES AND WE ACTUALLY COMING DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE FISCAL YEARS.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR HERE, I THINK IT'S VERY FAVORABLE TO THE CITY OVERALL AND TO OUR CITIZENS.
BOTTOM LINE AND THE RECOMMENDATION HERE ALMOST GOES BACK TO WHAT WE DID ON THE FIRE SIDE.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS FACED SINCE ITS EXISTENCE IS, HOW DO YOU PROVIDE FIRE SERVICE TO A CITY THAT HAS A LIMITED COMMERCIAL BASE, ALMOST NONE, NO INDUSTRIAL BASE FOR TAXATION.
YET IT TAKES 4-5 FIRE TRUCKS AT A FIRE.
WE COULD DO IT OURSELVES, AND THAT'S NOT PRACTICAL.
WHAT WE DID IS WE FORMED A STRATEGIC ALLIANCE WITH OTHER FIRE DEPARTMENTS AROUND US.
IN THESE PAST TWO FISCAL YEARS, COUNCILS TODAY AND COUNCILS BEFORE HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONCEPT OF WORKING TO BETTER THE FIRE PROTECTION FOR OUR CITIZENS.
AS A RESULT, WE ARE NOW PART OF A LOOSE GROUP CENTERED IN WYLIE WITH CENTRALIZED DISPATCH, CENTRALIZED PROCEDURES BACKUP ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN TERMS OF COMPUTER AIDED SEQUENCING OF UNITS.
WHEN THERE IS A FIRE IN PARKER, WE KNOW THE UNITS THAT ARE COMING.
IF THOSE UNITS ARE NOT AVAILABLE, WE AUTOMATICALLY ARE BEING DISPATCHED FROM ELSEWHERE.
THAT SAME CONCEPT IS NOW GOING TO APPLY ON THE EMS. WYLIE DOES THE DISPATCHING TODAY.
THEY'LL CONTINUE TO DO THE DISPATCHING.
THAT SAME COMPUTER THAT PROVIDES THE COORDINATION OF FIRE UNITS PROVIDES THE SAME COORDINATION OF THE AMBULANCES.
>> THE 911 CALLS, WHEN THEY'RE RECEIVED AND TRANSFERRED TO WILEY, IF IT'S A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, WILEY DISPATCHERS HAVE CONTINUE AND WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY MEDICAL INSTRUCTIONS TO THE CALLER, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW TO DO CPR, HOW TO STOP BLEEDING.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A DECADE, BUT THIS WILL CONTINUE AGAIN IN A CENTRALIZED GROUP.
THEN LASTLY, UNDER THE CONTRACT, WILEY WOULD AGREE TO REPLACE SUPPLIES THAT WE USE PROVIDING NUMBER 1, IT'S BILLABLE TO THE PATIENT, AND NUMBER 2, IT'S NOT A PHARMACEUTICAL, THAT THEY CAN'T DO.
SO WE CONTRACT INDEPENDENTLY THROUGH OUR MEDICAL CONTROL AND OBTAIN THE PHARMACEUTICALS THAT WE USE, BUT FOR OXYGEN MASKS, BANDAGES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THINGS THAT GO WITH THE PATIENT, WE LITERALLY WOULD SWAP WITH THE AMBULANCE IF THERE'S TIME, OTHERWISE, AFTER THE FACT, WE SWAP OUT AND THEY BILL THE PATIENT FOR THE PRODUCTS USED.
THERE IS SOME SUPPLEMENTAL SUPPORT FOR OUR EMS PROGRAM THROUGH THIS THAT WASN'T THE CASE BEFORE, BY THE WAY.
ALL IN ALL, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.
DELIGHTED TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU PUT ON, BOTH IN YOUR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT YOU SENT OUT AND THE COMMENTS YOU'RE MAKING NOW EXTEMPORANEOUSLY, ARE SOME OF THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
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I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'S WATCHING AT HOME VIA THE INTERNET OR THAT WATCHES THIS AT A LATER DATE, IF YOU'VE NOT LOOKED THROUGH THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT THE CHIEF PUT TOGETHER, THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE, ISN'T IT STILL?>> YEAH. IT'S STILL IN THE PACKET.
>> I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT IT ONLINE, GO THROUGH IT, BUT THE EXPLANATION THAT YOU JUST GAVE EXTEMPORANEOUSLY WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING DOWN AT NOTES INFORMS US, AT LEAST IT INFORMS ME, ON HOW WELL YOU HAVE STUDIED THE TOPIC AND KNOW IT.
I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE OUTSTANDING, AND I TAKE EVERY BIT OF IT THAT WE SHOULD ACCEPT IT EXACTLY AS YOU'VE RECOMMENDED.
>> ON BEHALF OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THANK YOU.
>> YEAH, IT'S A WELL DESERVED COMPLIMENT, AND I REALLY ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT.
THE DOCUMENT ITSELF EXPLAINED EVERYTHING QUITE WELL, AND YOU'VE DONE AN EVEN BETTER JOB GOING THROUGH IT ORALLY, AND YOU'VE SHOWN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM, IS THAT A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-804?
>> YES, I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEMRED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-804, WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION FOR THE AMBULANCE SERVICE.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION PASS, 4-0. THANK YOU.
>> THANKS SO MUCH CHIEF [INAUDIBLE].
[7. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-805 AUTHORIZING AWARD OF CONTRACT AND EXECUTION OF NECESSARY AND RELATED DOCUMENTS WITH ANDERSON ASPHALT & CONCRETE PAVING, LLC TO PERFORM STREET MAINTENANCE WORK CONSISTENT WITH ITS COMPETITIVELY PROCURED CITY OF FORNEY PROPOSAL PRICING AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OF PARKER UNDER THE MASTER INTERLOCAL COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FORNEY AND THE CITY OF PARKER. ]
I BET THIS IS WHY MS. ESTABROOK IS STILL HERE.YES. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-805, AUTHORIZING AWARD OF CONTRACT AND EXECUTION OF NECESSARY AND RELATED DOCUMENTS WITH ANDERSON ASPHALT AND CONCRETE PAVING LLC TO PERFORM STREET MAINTENANCE WORK CONSISTENT WITH ITS COMPETITIVELY PROCURED CITY OF FORNEY PROPOSAL PRICING AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OF PARKER UNDER THE MASTER INTERLOCAL COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FORNEY AND THE CITY OF PARKER.
FOLKS, THIS HAS TO DO WITH CHURCH LANE BEING REPAIRED.
>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, THIS IS THE BID THAT YOU ASKED US TO BRING BACK TO YOU-ALL.
WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS A 10-INCH CEMENT STABILIZATION.
THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN THERE, GRIND THE CURRENT ROAD INTO THE SUB BASE, TAKE A LITTLE BIT OUT AND THEN ADD 10 INCHES OF CEMENT STABILIZATION INTO THAT ROADWAY.
THEN THEY'LL OVERLAY IT, WAS IT TWO-AND-A-HALF INCHES OF THE FIRST LAY, AND THEN THEY'LL PUT THE FIBER MAT DOWN, WHICH WILL HELP SOME OF THE REFRACTING OF THE CRACKS FROM GROUND MOVEMENT IN THAT AREA, AND THEN DO A TWO-INCH OVERLAY ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT TOTAL BID COMES OUT TO $353, 905.25.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE, BUT WE DID GET SOME ADDITIONAL SAVINGS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF QUANTITIES WE WERE GETTING TOO, SO THAT DID HELP US OUT ON THAT.
GARY AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
>> A QUESTION. STABILIZATION. YOU CHOSE 4,667 SQUARE YARDS.
LATER ON, IT TALKS ABOUT THE TWO OVERLAYS YOU TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS STATED AT 4,200 SQUARE YARDS BY THE DIFFERENTIAL.
>> WE'RE GOING ON THE EDGES OF THE DITCH LINE THERE.
YOU GO OUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SO YOU CAN KEEP THOSE EDGES FROM NOT CHAFFING OFF WITH HEAVY TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING COMING DOWN THOSE ROADS LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF SO MUCH SCHOOL BUSES, BUT MORE TRASH TRUCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> THEN FROM A PERSPECTIVE, I KNOW YOU HAD TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT DOING POTENTIALLY SOME TYPE OF GLASS PAVE.
IS THAT ONE OF THESE ON HERE? IT JUST DOESN'T IDENTIFY.
>> YEAH. THAT'S NUMBER 2 ON THERE.
>> THAT INCLUDES THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF CHURCH LANE;IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. GARY AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE HOMEOWNERS OVER THERE TO GET SOME OF THOSE TREES CUT BACK OVER THERE SO WE CAN GET THIS EQUIPMENT IN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND GET THAT ROAD WORK DONE IF COUNCIL APPROVES IT.
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>> THEN THERE'S LIKE A PAGE OF EXCLUSION.
IS THERE ANYTHING WITHIN THAT EXCLUSION THAT YOU THINK THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE NEEDED?
>> GARY AND I WENT THROUGH THIS CONTRACT.
YEAH, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE STANDARD.
>> YOU'VE ALREADY VERIFIED THAT THE COSTING MATCHES THE FORNEY AGREEMENT?
>> IT'S BELOW THE FORNEY AGREEMENT, SO WE SHOULD BE COVERED ON THAT.
>> I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT LUKE AND GARY IN PARTICULAR ON THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE GETTING THIS BID READY.
IF YOU'RE READY FOR A MOTION, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS BID.
>> THE ONLY OTHER DISCUSSION TOPIC THAT I WOULD HAVE IS WHAT IS THE TIMING THAT THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE DOWN AND HOW IS GOING TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS THERE?
>> ONCE WE GET GIVE THEM THE NOTICE TO PROCEED, THEY'LL GIVE US A TIME FRAME.
WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNERS.
THAT DOES REQUIRE TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR US.
SO GARY AND I, I THINK HE WANTED TO DO ONE LANE AT A TIME, SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL MEASURES WE'LL HAVE TO DO THERE WITH SOME FLAGGING, BUT WE WE'LL LET THE NEIGHBORS KNOW, AND I THINK WE CAN GO POST NOTES ON EVERYONE'S HOUSES FOR THAT.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY RIGHT OF WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE BY THE [INAUDIBLE] LAND? WHATEVER IS EASY.
THE QUESTION I'M JUST GOING TO ASK BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE DRAINAGE ISSUE, IF THERE'S ANY NEED TO BASICALLY IMPROVE THAT BAR DITCH OVER ON THAT SIDE OR NOT?
>> THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK THERE AND REGRADE THAT.
BUT FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE, GOING DOWN THE 10 INCHES WITH THE CEMENT STABILIZATION, AND THE GLASS MAT SHOULD HELP OUT SUBSTANTIALLY WITH ANY SHIFTING OR ANYTHING IN THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY ON THE EDGES GOING OUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER FOR THAT CEMENT STABILIZATION. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.?
>> THE POINT WHERE IT'S JUST THE SAME THAT WHILE WE'RE DOING THE WORK, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CLEAR OUT PART OF THAT BAR DITCH WILL MAKE IT DEEPER OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE OF VALUE?
>> GARY AND I CAN LOOK AT THAT.
WE'LL GET INTO THAT, WE OPEN A BIG CAN PF WORMS WITH ENGINEERING ON THAT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A BIG NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT [INAUDIBLE] WE CAN DO THAT BRUCE, AT THE UNIT NUMBER, SEE WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-805 ON THE STREET MAINTENANCE ON CHURCH LANE.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THE MOTION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-805.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION 2024-805, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 4-0. THANK YOU.
NOW WE WILL GO TO ROUTINE ITEMS,
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AND MR. OLSON, YOU'RE ON.WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE EXPEDITION TO FORGET ITS LAST COUPLE OF THINGS DONE ON THAT.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS READY TO GO ON THAT.
I'LL BRING BACK, HOPEFULLY, SOMETHING SOON ON THE ENTERPRISE.
I'M STILL GOING THROUGH THOSE CONTRACTS, THOSE MASTER AGREEMENTS ON THAT. FORGET WHAT ELSE WAS ON HERE.
SORRY. TCEQ, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES OTHER THAN THE CLOSING.
IT'S CLOSED ON THE FILING FOR THE MUD PROPERTY.
SORRY. THE ENGINEERING CONTRACTS, WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH.
THE BRUSH ORDINANCE IS BACK IN EFFECT.
THEN IF YOU CAN, PLEASE LOOK ON OUR WEBSITE FOR THE WATER CONSERVATION EFFORTS THAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO PLEASE FOLLOW.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PUT ANY WATER RESTRICTIONS IN COMING NEXT TWO MONTHS IF POSSIBLE.
>> DID YOU SAY ANYTHING ABOUT 2551?
>> WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. I MET WITH
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THE CONTRACTORS OUT THERE YESTERDAY AS A MATTER OF FACT, TALKED ABOUT MORE PITS FOR THE WATER CROSSING DELAHEY.>> ABOUT MORE PITS FOR THE CROSSING ON DELAHEY.
THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON MATERIALS FOR THE WATER LINES.
SOME OF THE WATERLINE CROSSINGS, THEY'RE HAVING LOTS OF ISSUES.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMP PLAN.
IT'S GOING TO P&Z, OR THEY WILL BE DISCUSSING IT THURSDAY AT PLANNING AND ZONING.
>> WE JUST TO NOTE, I BELIEVE CANDY NOBLE, REPRESENTATIVE, HAS REQUESTED TCEQ CONSIDER HOLDING A MEETING IN THIS AREA FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK UP AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT THAT'S BEEN APPLIED FOR BY RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS OR THE HALF FINES.
THAT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED OR SET YET, BUT IF IT IS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PUT WORD OUT TO THE CITIZENS, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE CITIZEN THAT KNOWS ABOUT IT TO ATTEND THAT MEETING WHENEVER IT MIGHT OCCUR.
>> THE LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED WHEN REPRESENTATIVE NOBLE HELPED US, WE USED THE BALLROOM AT SOUTH PARK TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO BE THERE.
SO THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD THING.
WE CAN TRY DOING THAT AGAIN IF WE NEED TO FOR SPACE.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL ACCEPT DONATIONS.
[9. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $1,000 [RES. NO. 2024-801]) ]
MANNY, LAST NAME UNKNOWN, DONATED ONE CASE OF WATER AND ONE CASE OF SODA VALUED AT $15 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.SCOTT JEFFRIES AND ANDREA PETRO DONATED $500 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SCOTT JEFFRIES AND ANDREA PETRO DONATED $500 TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
OUR RESIDENTS ARE JUST SO WONDERFUL TO US. THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE DON'T
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ALREADY HAVE. COUNCILMEMBER KERCHO?>> JUST FROM PREVIOUSLY, TODAY THE TEAM ASKED ASKED IF THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL THAT CAN COME TALK TO US ABOUT IT, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.
>> I THINK, GRANT, YOU SAID NOVEMBER.
WE WILL PUT IT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA.
>> I'D LIKE, AT SOME POINT, WHETHER IT'S A WORKSHOP OR AS A PART OF THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL, FOR US TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUILDING MORATORIUM AND WAYS THAT WE MIGHT MODIFY IT TO MAKE SOME EXCLUSIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T FIT INTO THIS LARGE DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
>> THAT'S ON THE FUTURE AGENDAS. WE GOT THAT.
WE'RE WAITING FOR SOME LEGAL OPINION ON THAT ONE.
ANYTHING ELSE? THEN AT THIS TIME,
[EXECUTIVE SESSION START TO FINISH]
WE WILL RECESS INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 PERSONNEL TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE, GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 PERSONNEL TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, AND OR DUTIES OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR.GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0711, CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY CONCERNING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION, GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0712, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER, OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
AT THIS TIME, 6:05, WE ARE IN RECESS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AT THIS TIME, I'M RECONVENING THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL.
[RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING.]
IT IS AUGUST 6TH, 2024 AT 7:15.COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY APPROPRIATE DELIBERATION AND OR
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ACTION ON ANY OF THE ABOVE EXECUTIVE SESSION SUBJECTS?>> NO MADAM MAYOR, THERE'S NOT.
>> HEARING NONE, THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED.
IT IS 7:16 PM.
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