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>> WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, I UNDERSTAND FROM PREVIOUSLY WHAT WE SPENT ON ATTORNEYS MAYBE, PRIOR TO REALLY HAVING AMY OR TRAY WHEN WE WERE ON OUR OWN CONTRACTING OUT, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSION AND DECISION TO GO TO IN HOUSE COUNCIL AND WHAT PUSHED THAT.
I WOULD ASSUME PROBABLY THE EXPENSES DID, BUT IF WE COULD HAVE SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> GUYS, WE HAD A RETAINED ATTORNEY.
IT WAS VERY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE WHILE THERE WAS A MONTHLY FEE, THERE WAS ALSO AN ADDITIONAL FEE FOR EVERY PHONE CALL, FOR EVERY EMAIL, AND HE HAD OTHER CITIES THAT HE DEALT WITH, SO HE WAS NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO US WHEN WE FELT WE MIGHT NEED ADVICE ON SOMETHING.
WE WENT FROM THAT TO AN IN HOUSE ATTORNEY.
WE FELT WE GOT MUCH BETTER SERVICE.
WE FELT THAT WE WERE THE NUMBER 1 ITEM WITH THIS PERSON, AND THEY TOOK GOOD CARE OF US, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE CHEAPER.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
SAY OUR IN HOUSE ATTORNEY IS PAID AN ANNUAL SALARY OF $180,000 PER YEAR.
A RETAINED ATTORNEY WILL CHARGE US $300 AN HOUR OR GREATER PLUS EVERY PHONE CALL, EVERY PIECE YOU START ADDING THAT UP, AND IT'S MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO US.
THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO AN IN HOUSE ATTORNEY, AND WE'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THAT.
WHEN WE HAVE HAD THE OCCASION WHERE OUR IN HOUSE ATTORNEY FELT THERE WAS A REASON TO HIRE A SPECIALIST FOR SOME ISSUE THAT WAS COMING UP.
THAT ATTORNEY CAME TO COUNCIL ATTEMPTED TO JUSTIFY GOING TO THAT.
IF WE DID, THEN IT WAS PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP UP WITH THAT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS TRACKED AND TRACKED WELL.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
>> IS THERE ANYTHING AS FAR AS WE KNOW FROM NUMBERS YOU RECALL? IF WE WENT TO 180,000 A YEAR IT WAS PREVIOUSLY, THE EXPENSES LIKE 250 OR WAS IT A WASH OR?
>> I DON'T KNOW OF ANY RETAINED ATTORNEY AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT WOULD BE UNDER $300 PER HOUR.
IF WE HAD AN ANNUAL SALARY OF 180 BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY WE'RE SPENDING WELL IN EXCESS OF THAT.
WAS IT A WASH AT THAT POINT OR?
>> IT WAS A WASH AT THAT POINT, IS WHAT IT BASICALLY BOILED DOWN TO.
WHAT WE HAD IS THEY OFFERED, TRYING TO REMEMBER FROM BRAD INS CONTRACT.
IT WAS SO MANY HOURS PER MONTH BASED ON THE MONTHLY RETAINER THAT WE HAD AND AFTER THOSE HOURS RAN UP, IT ESCALATED TO A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF MONEY PER HOUR.
BASICALLY, WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE BILLS AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS TAKING PLACE, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A WASH AT THAT POINT, BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF HOURS HE WAS CHARGING US, BUT I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK THOSE NUMBERS, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS COUNCIL DECIDED AT THAT TIME TO GO IN HOUSE JUST TO GET A BETTER QUALITY OF SERVICE TO.
WE WEREN'T ALWAYS CHASING SOMEBODY DOWN TO GET AN ANSWER.
>> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM HERE AND OBVIOUSLY,
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GRANT IS NOT HERE TONIGHT.BUT I GUESS PART OF WHAT I WOULD WONDER IS IF I WERE TRYING TO MAKE THIS DECISION IN A BUSINESS, I WOULD ASK MY CFO TO GIVE ME A REPORT AND SHOW ME WHAT OUR LEGAL EXPENSES HAVE BEEN IN HOUSE AND OUTSIDE HOUSE, OUTSIDE COUNCIL FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS SO THAT I COULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
NOW I THINK THAT WOULD BE A KEY PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO ACCESS THAT.
I WOULD THINK IN MOST ACCOUNTING SYSTEMS, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE TO RUN A REPORT LIKE THAT BY YEAR, BY QUARTER.
>> I KNOW MY BUSINESS, I COULD RUN IT.
>> PRETTY EASILY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO KNOW JUST THE FINANCIAL AND HOPEFULLY SEPARATED BETWEEN INSIDE AND OUTSIDE COUNCIL.
I'M VERY OPEN TO LOOKING AT EITHER OPTIONS.
MY BIAS GOING IN PROBABLY IS AN OUTSIDE FIRM RATHER THAN A PERMANENT IN HOUSE ONE BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US ACCESS TO A BROADER RANGE OF EXPERTISE THAN HAVING A SINGLE PERSON.
NO SINGLE PERSON IS GOING TO HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF EXPERTISE THAT WE NEED.
I KNOW MURPHY IS FIVE TIMES OUR SIZE, AND THEY USE AN OUTSIDE COMPANY.
THEY DON'T FEEL THEY'RE LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE THEIR OWN IN HOUSE COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE DAY TO DAY NEEDS FOR LEGAL COUNCIL? WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW? I KNOW WE'VE GOT KATHERINE, BUT I STILL DON'T REALLY EVEN UNDERSTAND WITH KATHERINE.
ARE YOU HERE FIVE DAYS A WEEK NOW, HAVE YOU FULLY REPLACED AMY OR ARE YOU ON CALL?
>> NO. I DON'T HAVE OFFICE HOURS HERE.
I GET EMAILS OR PHONE CALLS, AND I RESPOND ACCORDINGLY.
JUST LIKE YOU WOULD WITH OUTSIDE COUNCIL OF THE FIRM.
HOWEVER, SOME FIRMS DO HAVE OFFICE HOURS.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL CITIES SETUP.
THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY THERE.
>> I DON'T KNOW SINCE WE HAVEN'T HAD A RETAINED ATTORNEY EXCEPT UNDER OUR IN HOUSE ATTORNEY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION YOU WANT.
I KNOW WE HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR WHAT WE PAID EMPLOYEE ATTORNEY.
THE RETAINED ATTORNEY THAT WE HAVE FOR A SPECIALTY SITUATION, WE WOULD HAVE THOSE FEES, WHICH I GUESS YOU COULD LOOK AT THEM LIKE THAT.
I HADN'T THOUGHT OF IT LIKE THAT.
I FEEL WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT BETTER SERVICE.
WHEN WE DID HAVE THE RETAINED ATTORNEY, IT WAS SOMETIMES HARD CHASING THAT PERSON DOWN.
A RETAINED ATTORNEY MAY HAVE SIX OR SEVEN DIFFERENT CITIES.
WELL, HE'LL CALL YOU WHEN HE GETS BACK FROM ARBURY OR ST. PAUL OR WHEN HE GETS TIME.
THEN HE MAY ALSO HAVE TO SAY, WELL, I GOT TO GO CHECK WITH THE PARTNER BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE ON THAT. YOU HAVE THAT.
YES, YOU HAVE IT WITH AN IN HOUSE ATTORNEY, BUT MOST IN HOUSE ATTORNEYS HAVE THEIR NETWORK. I DON'T KNOW.
>> KATHERINE, IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT YOU'VE BEEN FILLING THIS ROLE, HOW MANY HOURS A WEEK HAVE YOU BEEN PROVIDING TO THE CITY? DO YOU KNOW ROUGHLY?
I WOULD SAY IT'S LESS THAN 20 HOURS A WEEK.
THESE AREN'T LEGAL ISSUES, BUT FROM MY EXPERIENCE, I'VE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES.
I'VE BEEN IN HOUSE AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
I THINK WHAT STAFF IS SPEAKING TO IS REALLY THAT WITH SOMEONE HERE ALL THE TIME, THEY FEEL THAT THERE ARE THINGS YOU PICK UP AS IN HOUSE COUNSEL THAT I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW BECAUSE SOMEBODY WOULDN'T THINK TO PICK UP THE PHONE OR SEND ME AN EMAIL TO TELL ME.
THERE'S CERTAINLY PROS AND CONS OF EITHER ONE.
I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THE CITY'S HAD IN THE PAST IS FINDING SOMEONE THAT CAN FILL THAT IN HOUSE ROLE AND OBVIOUSLY RETAINING THEM OVER A LONG TERM.
>> SURE. I THINK I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID SO FAR.
I'M NOT MARRIED TO ONE POSITION VERSUS THE OTHER, AND I THINK WE NEED TO EVALUATE IT QUITE HONESTLY.
I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF NUANCES TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT KATHERINE IS SAYING THAT SINCE WE HAVE HER ON A RETAINER NOW, I'M NOT GOING TO CALL HER ABOUT WHATEVER IN HOUSE ORDINANCES THAT WE WANT TO HAVE REWRITTEN, OR I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TO HER ABOUT SOME OTHER LITTLE NUANCES THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP WITHIN THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WITHIN THE CITY.
THE BENEFIT OF HAVING SOMEBODY ON SITE IS THAT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF.
THERE IS BENEFIT OF HAVING SOMEONE ON SITE BECAUSE THOSE CONTINUING ACTIVITIES CAN CONTINUE TO BE FLESHED OUT.
THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE DID GET DONE THAT WERE THE TYPES OF ITEMS THAT PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED WITH SOMEONE ON RETAINER.
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WE JUST WOULD HAVE LEFT THAT GO BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE CAN GET BY, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CALL SOMEBODY THAT'S ON RETAINER, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THEM ABOUT OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE, I GUESS, URGENT AS FAR AS THE LEGALITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON.THAT'S ONE BENEFIT THAT WE HAVE IS THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN CLEAN UP AND YOU CAN BRING INSIDE.
KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE'RE MAKING THE DECISION.
MY OPINION WAS AT THE TIME WHEN WE MADE THE CHANGEOVER, IS OUR EXTERNAL COUNSEL THAT WE HAD WAS PHONING IT IN, IF YOU WILL.
IT WAS VERY CURSORY SERVICE BECAUSE THEY WOULD SHOW UP FOR THE MEETING, WE'D DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN WE'D GET DONE AND THEY'D COME OUT HERE AND RUN THE MEETING AND THEN THEY'D BE GONE, AND THAT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT WE WOULD GET FROM THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAD TO DO OUTSIDE OF THAT, WOUND UP BEING THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE WERE BRINGING IN.
THEN THE LAST THING THAT I WILL SAY IS WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS FOR BRINGING SOMEONE INSIDE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT ALL THE RATES, AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS AGAIN TO SEE WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE THERE COULD BE DIFFERENCES THERE, OF COURSE.
BUT WHAT I REMEMBER IS THAT YOU HAD A BASE RATE OF A CERTAIN 300 OR 400 AN HOUR, AND THEN WHEN YOU HAD EXTERNAL SERVICES THAT YOU WERE REQUIRED TO MAYBE A DEEMED TO THAT, THEN THERE WAS ADDERS TO THAT.
IT WAS JUST AS IF YOU WERE GOING EXTERNAL TO SOME DEGREE, MAYBE THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCOUNT BECAUSE YOU WERE ALREADY ON STAFF.
THE OTHER THING THAT I ASKED A NUMBER OF THEM POINT BLANK IS THEY HAD THEIR PARTNERS HERE WHEN WE WERE DOING AN INTERVIEW PROCESS AND THEN I ASKED, WELL, WHO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE HERE? IT WASN'T THE PARTNER, OF COURSE.
IT WAS GOING TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WAS MAYBE, A JUNIOR ATTORNEY, WHICH IS NOT A PROBLEM, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW, BUT THAT CONTINUITY OF HAVING SOMEBODY HERE ALL THE TIME, THERE IS SOME BENEFIT OF THAT, SO WEIGHING THAT TOGETHER.
IT WAS A PRETTY EASY DECISION BECAUSE WE WEREN'T GETTING THE SERVICE THAT WE NEEDED, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, WE WERE GETTING MORE SERVICES COMPLETED INTERNAL TO THE CITY, AND THEN THE THIRD ASPECT OF IT WAS THAT WE HAD THE ABILITY TO HAVE A EQUAL OR LOWER COST PER HOUR TO GET THE THINGS DONE THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.
THAT WAS THE RATIONALE, BUT I'M VERY OPEN TO LOOKING AT IT FROM A HOLISTIC STANDPOINT. I THINK WE SHOULD.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, [INAUDIBLE], DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT?
>> NO, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID HERE SO FAR IN TERMS OF JUST THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT IDEAS OF THE PROS AND CONS.
I FEEL LIKE I KNOW ME PERSONALLY HAVE HAD A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH AMY WHILE SHE WAS HERE PREVIOUSLY.
WE BOTH HAD ESSENTIALLY GOT ON COUNSEL AT THE SAME TIME.
I'VE WORKED WITH HER PRETTY EXTENSIVELY HAVING HER IN HOUSE AS COUNCIL MEMBER REED MENTIONED EARLIER.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I REACHED OUT TO ASK HER THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE CALLED UP SOME EXTERNAL COUNCIL PERSON IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ASK IN ORDER TO JUST LEARN VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS REGARDING LEGALITIES OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCES, THE RESOLUTIONS, THE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND OBVIOUSLY THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT LITIGATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH THE CITY.
THERE'S A LOT OF I GUESS CONTINUITY THAT WAS I THINK AFFORDED TO ME AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT CONTINUITY OF THE RELATIONSHIP WITH HER, TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS FREELY.
I THINK IT ALLOWED ME TO DO MY JOB BETTER.
BUT I'M ALSO OPEN TO HAVING AN EXTERNAL COUNSEL THAT WE'RE HAVING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH TOO.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A RIGHT ANSWER, BUT I CAN JUST SAY THAT IT WAS GOOD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE HER ACCESSIBLE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, [INAUDIBLE]
>> I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THIS AND NOT MAKE A KNEE JERK DECISION, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS NUMEROUS TIMES I WENT TO AMY AND ASKED HER QUESTIONS AND I REALLY LIKED AMY.
BUT SHE'S LIKE, I DON'T HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT, THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, ET CETERA. I CAN RESPECT THAT.
WHEN I PUT TOGETHER THE TWO LARGEST 501(C) (9) TRUSTS IN THE UNITED STATES, I HIRED THE AUTHOR THE 501(C)(9) FROM THE OFFICE OF CHIEF COUNSEL OF THE IRS.
I HIRED BAKER MCKENZIE TO DO OUR LABOR COUNSEL UNDER 77-186, SO THEN I HAD MY EXPERT THERE.
I'M LEANING TOWARDS A FIRM THAT CAN GIVE US THE EXPERT IN THE FOUR OR FIVE AREAS THAT WE NEED.
I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY NEGOTIATE A BETTER CONTRACT THAN WE DID LAST TIME, BUT I'M OPEN TO EVERYTHING.
>> TODD JUST TOUCHED ON SOMETHING THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT.
THE FIRST THING I MENTIONED WAS DOING A REVIEW OF WHAT WE'VE SPENT IN THE PAST, SO WE CAN GET SOME IDEA OF WHAT WE NEED TO BUDGET GOING FORWARD, AND THEN WE'D ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT CAN WE GET FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY? BUT THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO EXAMINE IS, WHAT TYPE OF WORK DO WE NEED THIS PERSON TO DO? WHAT'S MOST LIKELY TO TAKE PLACE? I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FORECAST THE FUTURE, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THE PAST.
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I'M GUESSING AT THIS.I MAY BE COMPLETELY BE WRONG. IF I AM, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I SUSPECT SOME OF THE WORK THAT AMY PROBABLY DID OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS BEEN RELATED TO THE MUD AND THE SEWER TREATMENT PERMIT OPPOSITION THAT THE CITY HAD FILED.
AS I THINK BACK OVER THAT, MAYBE NOT THAT MUCH OF IT NEEDED TO HAVE BEEN DONE BY HER SINCE WE HAD OUTSIDE COUNSEL THAT SPECIALIZED IN THAT.
SO WE MAY HAVE LOGGED SOME MAN HOURS OF WORK THERE THAT WE'RE DOUBLING UP, WHERE WE HAD IN HOUSE COUNSEL OVERSEEING THE SAME PROJECT THAT OUTSIDE COUNSEL WAS FULLY CAPABLE OF HANDLING ON THEIR OWN.
SO SETTING ASIDE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE WE REALLY KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL NEED, WHAT ARE THE OTHER GENERAL NEEDS THAT WE HAVE FOR ATTORNEY COUNSEL AND LOOK AT THOSE.
THAT'LL LEAD US TO HELP MAKING THE KIND OF DECISION THAT TODD WAS TALKING ABOUT JUST NOW IN TERMS OF MAYBE WE NEED EMPLOYMENT, MAYBE WE NEED CONTRACT, MAYBE WE NEED CITY SPECIALIZATION, THINGS LIKE THAT.
ONE IS WHAT PEOPLE MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF AS WELL, THAT AS A MEMBER OF TML WE ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO TML, WHICH HAS THEIR OWN LEGAL COUNSEL, WHICH WE AS A CITY HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE LAWYERS TO ACTUALLY PLACE QUESTIONS OUT TO AND RECEIVE THOSE RESPONSES AT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO US.
SO IT'S ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM OUT THERE AS WELL.
ANOTHER THING ON AMY. I'M NOT HERE EVERY DAY.
I KNOW THAT AMY SEEMED EXTREMELY BUSY WHILE SHE WAS HERE.
I HAD TALKED TO HER A FEW TIMES ABOUT TRYING TO GET A FEW THINGS DONE IS THAT THERE'S NUMBER OF TEMPLATES THAT COULD HAVE HELPED THE CITY.
THERE'S SUMMARIES OF ALL LOT OF THE AGREEMENTS AND CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
SO EVERY TIME WE LOOK AT SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO PULL THE ENTIRE CONTRACTOR AGREEMENT AGAIN TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN INSTEAD OF HAVING SUMMARIES ON HAND.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS AS I SAID, TALKED TO HER ABOUT TRYING TO GET DONE.
SHE DIDN'T GET TO A SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
SO EITHER SHE'S VERY INEFFICIENT, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT WAS THE CASE, OR SHE WAS SO BUSY, NEVER GOT THERE, WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
ADDITIONALLY, WHILE I LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING AN EXPERT ON EACH ITEM, I THINK THAT PROBABLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET AN EXPERT FOR $300 AN HOUR.
IF WE REALLY NEED AN EXPERT PER SE, IT'S MORE LIKELY WE WOULD GET EXTERNAL COUNSEL IN THAT CASE SINCE WE GOT BART.
CERTAINLY IF THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE WITHIN THE CITY WITHOUT GOING TO THE EXPERT SIDE, THEN PERHAPS THE CURRENT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE WHICH IS BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL MIGHT BE THE CASE.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I'M HEARING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M MISHEARING, WE NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION.
WE NEED INFORMATION OF REVIEW OF THE PAST COST.
>> PAST COST AND PAST ACTIVITIES.
I APPRECIATE WHAT, EXCUSE ME, GREENRIDGE HAS HAD TO SAY ABOUT HER BEING BUSY SOMETIMES.
THERE'S AN OLD AXIOM IN BUSINESS AND THIS IS TRUE.
I FOUND IT WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE SERVICE BUSINESS OR THE PRODUCT BUSINESS.
IF YOU'RE IN THE PRODUCT BUSINESS, INVENTORY EXPANDS TO FILL THE SPACE ALLOTTED.
SO YOU GO BUILD A NEW WAREHOUSE AND IT GETS FILLED UP RIGHT AWAY TOO AND THEN YOU'RE OUT OF SPACE.
IN THE SERVICE BUSINESS, IT'S WORK EXPANDS TO FILL THE TIME ALLOTTED.
SO THE MORE MAN HOURS WE HIRE, IF WE HIRE A FULL TIME PERSON, WE'LL PROBABLY KEEP THEM BUSY FULL TIME, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT EVERYTHING THEY'RE DOING IS ESSENTIAL.
AGAIN, I'M OPEN TO EITHER ONE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A QUICK DECISION.
I WANT TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
I THINK THOSE ARE TWO PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT ARE REALLY CRITICAL, COSTS AND WHAT ARE THE PRIMARY ACTIVITIES.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THE OTHER BOUNDARY CONDITION THAT WE'RE ALLUDING HERE IS THAT WHEN WE START LOOKING AT IT AND SEE WHAT BANG WE GET FOR THE BUCK.
SO WHEN YOU START ACTUALLY LINING IT OUT AND SEEING WHAT OPTIONS YOU HAVE.
I MEAN, I REMEMBER WHEN THE FIRMS WERE COMING IN, I THINK THERE WAS AT LEAST FOUR FIRMS THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT THAT WE WENT THROUGH IN SOME DETAIL.
WHEN YOU STARTED LOOKING AT IT IN DETAIL, WHAT YOU FOUND WAS THAT THERE WERE GAPS IN THE FIRMS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WITH.
MAYBE THAT WON'T BE THE CASE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER FECH IS TALKING ABOUT.
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT'S THAT PERFECT FIT AND WE'LL DO EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED AND MAYBE THAT'S ENOUGH AND YOU CAN DO IT IN THAT REGARD.
BUT WHEN WE DID IT IN THE PAST, JUST THE WAY THAT ALIGNED AT THAT TIME,
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IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS A MUCH EASIER DECISION.SO I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS.
WE NEED TO NOT DO IT AS A KNEE JERK DECISION.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL THE INFORMATION WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.
WHAT WE NEED, WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE, THE BALANCE OF INTERNAL VERSUS EXTERNAL, AND WHAT THE BENEFIT WOULD BE IF WE HAD SOMEBODY HERE AND JUST SEE WHAT THE DOLLARS AND CENTS TELL US.
>> ALSO, FROM AN EFFICIENCIES AND ECONOMIES OF SCALE, WE MIGHT CONSIDER TWO OR THREE LAW FIRMS AND PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE THAT TALKS TO THEM, STARTS INTERVIEWING THEM.
I'D BE HAPPY TO BE HONORED WHAT WE DO AS A COUNSEL.
LET'S TAKE THE HYPOTHETICAL AND THE THEORIES OUT AND GET SOME REAL NUMBERS AND EITHER IT WORKS OR IT DOESN'T WORK.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE DID BEFORE.
>> JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES HAVE TO BE DONE BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS, NOT JUST MONEY.
SO IT'S GOT TO BE MORE THAN JUST THE MONEY.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID.
>> YEAH. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THAT.
>> DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH, OKAY.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE NEED TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION AND WHEN WE GET THE INFORMATION, COME BACK AND FINISH THIS DISCUSSION.
IS THAT WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO?
>> WOULD COUNSEL BENEFIT IF I SENT OUT THE LAST RFQ THAT WE DID FOR FIRMS AND THEN THE JOB POSTING WHEN WE HAD FOR INTERNAL THE LAST TIME FOR THE LAST TWO TIMES? SO I'LL SEND THAT OUT TO YOU ALL.
>> THAT'S A GOOD BENCHMARK TO START WITH.
WE CAN AUGMENT THAT IF WE NEED TO.
>> LET ME FIND THAT RFQ. I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE I SAVED IT ON THE SERVER, BUT I'LL FIND IT.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT EVEN IF THAT'S NOT COMPLETE IS WHAT WE NEED, IT'LL CERTAINLY GIVE US A GOOD STARTING POINT THAT WE CAN USE.
>> THEN I GOT A QUESTION FOR LUKE.
AS FAR AS IF WE IDENTIFIED TWO OR THREE FIRMS, WOULD THE WHOLE COUNCIL NEED TO INTERVIEW THEM? COULD WE HAVE A COMMITTEE? WHAT ARE THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT IN THE CITY?
>> WHAT WE DID THE LAST TIME IS AS A COUNSEL, ANYBODY THAT WAS ON COUNSEL THAT WANTED TO COME IN AND REVIEW THE INFORMATION WE GOT IN.
THEN THEY CAME, WE ALL SAT IN THE ROOM.
>> YOU'RE REFERENCING WRITTEN PROPOSALS. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> YEAH. WE SAT AND WENT THROUGH EACH LAW FIRM THAT SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION, SUBMITTED A FOLDER WITH THE QUOTE, WHAT THEY WOULD DO, THE COST, ALL OF THAT.
>> ANYWAY, WHAT WE DID IS WE ALL WENT THROUGH THAT.
ONCE WE DID, WE THEN DECIDED WHICH ONES WE WANTED TO PERSONALLY INTERVIEW.
BECAUSE SAY WE GOT 20 APPLICATIONS, WE ONLY DECIDED TO INTERVIEW THREE DIFFERENT FIRMS. THEN WE DID IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS.
AGAIN, IT WAS ALL COUNCIL THAT WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN IT.
WE INTERVIEWED THE THREE FIRMS. AFTER THAT, WE THEN HAD A DISCUSSION AS COUNCIL AND DECIDED WERE ANY OF THOSE THREE WHO WE WANTED TO GO WITH OR DID WE WANT TO CONTINUE LOOKING? WE DECIDED THAT AT THAT POINT, WE WEREN'T REAL HAPPY WITH ANYBODY, AND THAT'S WHEN WE TURNED IT OVER TO A TO-GO IN HOUSE BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE FIRMS. BUT THAT'S THE PROCESS AND THE PROCESS DOES INVOLVE EVERYBODY.
>> THAT'S AWESOME. I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD USE OF THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS TO REPEAT THAT PROCESS AND LOOK AT WHO'S MOST QUALIFIED THAT CAN HELP US IN THE FIVE MAIN CATEGORIES THAT WE NEED BECAUSE WE ALSO GOT TO BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES AND WE'RE NOT VERY GOOD AT EMPLOYEE RETENTION WHEN IT COMES TO ATTORNEYS.
WE'RE LOSING REALLY GOOD PEOPLE QUICKLY.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IF ANYONE ELSE PLAN ON THAT, I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHY.
ONE IS WE BURN HIM OUT BECAUSE WE RIGHT NOW WITH THE WAY THE CITY HAS BEEN WITH ALL THAT'S GOING ON, WE'VE BEEN VERY BUSY LEGALLY.
SECONDLY, WE DON'T PAY THE HIGHEST AMOUNT. THAT'S A FACTOR.
YEAH. ONE OF THEM LEFT TO GO TO ANOTHER CITY, AND I THINK HE DOUBLED HIS SALARY PRETTY CLOSE TO IT.
>> A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND THAT IT WAS THE BENEFITS.
>> YEAH. ON TRAY. YEAH. HE WAS AWESOME.
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>> I WAS CRUSHED WHEN HE LEFT AND I CALLED AND BEGGED HIM TO STAY AND HE SAID, NO.
>> THAT'S JUST IT IS THAT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVE IF WE RUN INTO A PERSON LIKE TRAY, WHICH WE MAY WHEN WE GO OUT THERE.
THAT MIGHT BE EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.
>> TRAY'S ONE AND 100, IN MY OPINION.
>> BUT THEY'RE OUT THERE, RIGHT?
>> WHICH REITERATES THAT A FIRM MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT TRAYS TO PULL FROM OUT OF 400 PEOPLE, POTENTIALLY.
>> YEAH. IF YOU GET THAT PERSON.
>> IN THOSE AREAS OF EXPERTISE THAT WE NEED.
>> I WOULDN'T FAMILIAR WITH TRAY AT ALL, DON'T KNOW THEM AT ALL.
BUT MY CONCERN IS WE GET ANOTHER PERSON LIKE THAT AND AS GREAT AS THEY ARE, IF THEY'RE THAT GOOD.
UNLESS THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING FAMILY WISE OR CULTURE WISE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT TIES THEM TO PARKER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT JOB WHEN THEY GET AN OPPORTUNITY, AND THEY'D BE DOING A DISSERVICE TO THEIR FAMILY IF THEY DIDN'T.
BUT IF THEY'VE GOT TIES HERE, THAT'S GREAT.
>> IT'S LIKE YOU JUST SAID OR SOMEONE SAID TRAY DOUBLE TO SALARY.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE A STEPPING STONE IF WE'RE HONEST WITH OURSELVES.
>> BUT YOU HAVE THE SAME THING WITH THE FIRM BECAUSE YOU START OUT AS A JUNIOR WITH A JUNIOR ASSOCIATE, AND THEN HE GETS PROMOTED, AND YOU GET THE NEXT NEW GUY.
>> AT LEAST WE HOLD THE FIRM ACCOUNT BRING US THE NEXT NEW GUY THAT'S GOOD.
>> IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK LIKE THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANOTHER SEARCH ANYMORE.
>> WITH A FIRM, YOU SOMETIMES GET OH, WERE I SUPPOSED TO BE AT A MEETING TONIGHT? I DIDN'T KNOW. THAT'S A PROBLEM.
>> I THINK OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO HIRE A COMPETENT FIRM.
>> BUT AT ANY RATE, I WILL GET THIS INFORMATION, AND DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO COME BACK WITH IT ON SAY, 618? THAT'S OUR NEXT MEETING.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'LL NEED TO DO WHATEVER IS BEST FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
I WILL NOT BE HERE ON JUNE 18TH? THAT IS BOTH MY 47TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY, AND I'M SCHEDULED TO BE IN TRIAL IN HOUSTON ON THAT DAY FOR THAT ENTIRE WEEK WHICH IS NOT A GOOD WEEK TO BE IN TRIAL, CONSIDERING IT'S ALSO MY 47TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY.
>> YOU'RE IN TROUBLE ALREADY, BUDBY.
>> IN WHICH I MAY OR MAY NOT BE AT A CONVENTION THAT I'VE JUST BEEN INVITED TO SPEAK TO.
IT'S UP IN THE AIR IF I'M GOING TO GO OR NOT. I HAVEN'T COMMITTED.
>> OUR NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT, I BELIEVE IS JULY 2ND.
DO YOU ALL WANT TO HOLD OFF UNTIL THEN SINCE EVERYBODY COULD BE PRESENT, AND THAT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO GET MORE INFORMATION?
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, MOST OF US WILL BE AROUND FOR FOURTH OF JULY, SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE.
>> THEN MY QUESTION IS, IF WE DO IT ON 4TH JULY, WHAT SPECIFICALLY WILL WE HAVE OR GET PRIOR TO THAT MEETING? WILL THAT GIVE US TIME TO REACH OUT TO A BUNCH OF FIRMS AND GET QUOTES BACK OR WHAT ARE WE THINKING WE WOULD HAVE?
>> WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS INFORMATION, AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO A WORKSHOP AND DISCUSS WHAT WE HAVE, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN DECIDE ON A DIRECTION TO GO WHICH IS EITHER IN HOUSE OR FIRM.
ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, THEN WE WILL DRAW UP THE POSTINGS, IF YOU WILL, AND GET THEM OUT AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME RESPONSES.
THIS IS NOT A QUICK PROCESS, BUT THEN IT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT.
>> YEAH, I LIKE IT A LOT. THAT'S WHY HE SAID, I HOPE WE DON'T DO A KNEE JERK AND WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND THOROUGH RESPONSE FOR THE CITIZENS.
>> YEAH. WHAT I CAN DO MAYORS, I CAN SEND OUT THE PAST RESPONSES THAT WE GOT ON THOSE RFQS FROM THOSE FIRMS TO COUNCIL TOO SO THEY COULD HAVE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] FROM THE LAST TIME.
>> [OVERLAPPING] AS LONG AS EVERYBODY REALIZES THAT THOSE FIRMS OR THAT'S FOUR-YEARS-OLD.
>> YEAH. 2021, SO THREE YEARS NOW.
YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET AS FAR AS I THINK THE BIG THING IS THE REQUIREMENTS, WHAT'S IN THERE, WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING ON DOING, WE CAN COMPARE ALL THAT, TAKE NOTES ON THAT AND LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, AND THEN WHEN WE GET THE NEW QUOTATIONS OR RFQS, THEN WE CAN SEE HOW COMPARABLE IT IS OR WHAT.
>> YEAH. IF WE DO WANT TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL REQUESTS SPECIFICS IN THE RFQ, THEN WE CAN ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF IT'S NOT ALREADY INCLUDED IN THOSE EXAMPLES.
>> WE SAY LUKE, YOU'RE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THE RFQ TO US AHEAD OF TIME FOR US TO COMMENT ON AND SEND BACK TO YOU?
>> I CAN GET THAT OUT TO YOU TOMORROW.
I FOUND IT ON MY EMAIL SO I CAN GET THAT OUT.
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THIS IS A ONE THAT WAS REDLINED BY THE 2021 COUNCIL, SO THIS IS THE FINAL ONE FROM THAT ONE.I CAN GET THAT OUT TO YOU AND THEN ALSO THE PAST RESPONSES.
I GOT THAT. I FOUND THAT EMAIL REAL QUICK TOO.
>> WHAT REPORTS WILL WE GET FROM GRANT?
>> WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN HAVE HIM PULL WHAT BRANDON WAS DOING ANNUAL.
HE CAN PULL UP BY VENDOR, SO HE CAN LOOK UP LIKE BRANDON AND SEE THAT, THEN HE CAN PULL UP TRAY SALARY AND AMY SALARY AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I THINK JUST THE LAST YEAR BRANDON WAS HERE WAS BETWEEN 110 AND 115.
YOU JUST QUICK MATH IT REAL QUICK.
THAT WAS QUITE A WHILE AGO NOW AND WE WEREN'T GETTING AS MANY HOURS AS WE SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY FROM BRANDON OUT OF THAT 115.
WE DO FILL UP AN ATTORNEY'S TIME I WILL SAY THAT.
>> BECOME VERY BUSY ILLEGALLY.
PART OF THAT IS PARKER IS CHANGING, AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND BRING OUR CITY UP TO CODES ON EVERYTHING.
WE WILL GET THERE. WE HAVE A PLAN ON JULY 2ND, WE'LL COME BACK TO A WORKSHOP, FINISH OUR DISCUSSION WITH HAVING ALL THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE, AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN'T DECIDE ON A DIRECTION AT THAT TIME.
ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT TO THAT.
THEN I WILL CLOSE THAT PART OF THE WORKSHOP.
LET'S TALK ABOUT COUNCIL AVAILABILITY FOR WORKSHOPS.
WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON.
NORMALLY, WE DO OUR OWN WORKSHOP ON ETHICS, ETHICS OPEN RECORDS, PUBLIC MEETINGS.
I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT'S ALL OFF HERE.
IT'S ABOUT A TWO-HOUR WORKSHOP GOING OVER ALL THAT WHERE YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT QUORUMS AND ABOUT THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.
THAT'S ONE WORKSHOP WE NEED TO HAVE.
ANOTHER IS WE NEED TO HAVE A GOAL SETTING WORKSHOP FOR COUNCIL.
TYPICALLY, WE DO A WORKSHOP FOR US TO DECIDE WHAT WE THINK WE WANT TO SET THE GOALS OF THE CITY TO BE.
HOPEFULLY WE ALL CAN COME TOGETHER ON TWO OR THREE IMPORTANT THINGS FOR THE YEAR.
THEN WHAT'S THE OTHER? HELP ME OUT HERE.
>> BUDGET. WE HAVE BUDGET WORKSHOPS STARTING.
YEAH. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST ONE COMING UP.
WE'VE DONE WORKSHOPS TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT WAYS, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE YOUR INPUT ON HOW YOU'D LIKE THEM DONE.
WE HAVE DONE THEM STARTING AT 4:00 OR 5:00, BEFORE 7:00 MEETING.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE FEEL THE BRAINS FRIED BY THE TIME WE'VE FINISHED A WORKSHOP, AND THEN A COUNCIL MEETING.
SOME FOLKS HAVE LIKED US TO USE THE TUESDAY BETWEEN THE TWO MEETINGS AS A WORKSHOP NIGHT, WHICH CAN WORK JUST FINE.
OTHER PEOPLE WOULD PREFER IT TO BE ON MONDAY NIGHT OR SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE IN THE DAYTIME.
DAYTIME HAS SOME ATTRACTION IN THAT WHEN WE HAVE NIGHT MEETINGS, STAFF HAS TO STAY.
AND THAT SOMETIMES CAN BE PROBLEMATIC, KEEPING YOUR STAFF HERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
WHO'S AVAILABLE WHEN? WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? HOW DO Y'ALL WANT TO DO THIS?
>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, ON JULY 2ND, AREN'T WE HAVING A LEGAL WORKSHOP AGAIN?
>> ON JULY 2ND, AREN'T WE HAVING ANOTHER WORKSHOP ON LEGAL? OKAY. JUST TO CLARIFY?
>> YEAH. THERE'LL BE WORKSHOPS THAT COME UP PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. IT JUST HAPPENED.
WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON UPDATING THE CIP PROGRAM.
IT'S JUST EASIER IF WE HAVE SOME TIME THAT WE KNOW YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE IT, THAN TRY TO HERD CATS.
>> FOR CLARIFICATION, ARE YOU TRYING TO GET JUST DATES THAT WE'D BE AVAILABLE FOR A WORKSHOP IN GENERAL, REGARDLESS OF THE TOPIC,
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ARE YOU TRYING TO PICK A SPECIFIC DATE FOR A SPECIFIC TOPIC OTHER THAN THE ATTORNEY ONE THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT?>> JUST DATES THAT YOU'RE AVAILABLE FOR A WORKSHOP. RANDY.
>> YEAH, PROBABLY PREFER TO DO IT SAME NIGHT AS COUNCIL, BECAUSE EVERYONE IS THEREFORE AVAILABLE.
ALREADY MADE IT ON THEIR CALENDAR.
I THINK YOU CAN HAVE US DO IT BEFORE.
>> ACTUALLY, I'D PROBABLY LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEETING SO WE JUST FEEL THAT WE DON'T HAVE MORE SUBJECTS BECAUSE I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE HAVE A LOT TO DISCUSS.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT SOMETIMES, AND MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND STAFF STAYING LATE.
I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY DIFFICULT TO GET EVERYONE TOGETHER A DIFFERENT DAY, ETC.
>> YEAH, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BECAUSE A LOT OF US SCHEDULED OUT 90 DAYS, SO DOING IT WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE IT SCHEDULED.
EVEN IF WE JUST DO AN HOUR BEFORE AND WE JUST KEEP KNOCKING THEM OUT, CHIPPING AWAY, STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY LONGER, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO IT WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY HERE.
WE DON'T NEED TO PUSH THEM INTO 8:00 OR 9:00 OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE EMPLOYEE RETENTION ISSUES.
>> WELL, AND STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN ALL OF THEM, BUT WHEN WE NEED THEM, WE NEED THEM.
>> I ALSO THINK COUNCILMAN PILGRIM AT A GOOD POINT THERE.
ARE WE JUST PICKING DATES TO HAVE MEETINGS, OR ARE WE GOING TO IDENTIFY WHAT'S IMPORTANT AND FIGURE OUT HOW MANY WE REALLY NEED? I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE WAS ASKING, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.
>> YEAH. NO, I AGREE WITH THAT.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES SO WE TACKLE THOSE FIRST, NOT THAT WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
>> YEAH. THE OTHER, I GUESS, FACTOR HERE IS THAT CERTAINLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE RELEVANT.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A MEETING JUST TO HAVE A MEETING.
BUT ON THE SAME TOKEN, IF WE HAVE THEM OPEN, I LIKE THE SUGGESTION FROM COUNCILMAN KIRCHO, IS THAT IF WE HAVE IT THERE A WEEK BEFORE OR TWO WEEKS BEFORE, IF THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO, WE CAN SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT.
IT'S BECAUSE AS LONG AS IT'S 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE, WE CAN SAY NO, BUT I THINK ON OUR CALENDARS, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON THERE.
THAT WAY, WE AT LEAST HAVE IT SET ASIDE.
I KNOW THINGS THAT COME UP WITH TRAVEL AND BUSINESS AND ALL THAT THING.
BUT AT LEAST IT'S ALWAYS THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO BE THEN SCROUNGING IF WE HAVE TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY MEETING, AND WE GO, GOSH, WELL, NOW WHAT DO WE DO? I WOULD RATHER JUST HAVE IT ON A REGULAR HEARTBEAT OF WHAT WE DO FOR THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND IT JUST FITS BETTER.
IT ACTUALLY IS BETTER FOR STAFF TOO BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE HERE.
>> YEAH. EXACTLY. THE THREE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THERE, OR AT LEAST STATED WAS ETHICS WORKSHOP, GOAL SETTING WORKSHOP, BUDGET WORKSHOP.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND A GOAL SETTING ONE. THAT'S AWESOME.
NEEDS TO BE DONE 24/7 ALL THE TIME, AND THEN ACTUALLY GO IMPLEMENT IT, VERSUS TALKING ABOUT IT, SAME WITH A BUDGET.
BUT WHAT DO YOU DO IN ETHICS WORKSHOP? I HAVEN'T BEEN IN ONE.
WHAT DO YOU DO IN AN ETHICS WORKSHOP? I HAVEN'T BEEN IN ONE. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME.
>> OKAY. WHAT WE DID IN THE ETHICS WORKSHOP IS WHEN WE WENT OVER ETHICS.
WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE ALSO COVERED QUORUMS, BECAUSE THERE'S SPECIFIC RULES AND LAWS REGARDING QUORUMS, WHO YOU CAN TALK TO, WALKING QUORUMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
MOST OF US THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE KNOW, IT HASN'T COME UP BEFORE.
SO WE GO OVER IT EVERY YEAR. GO AHEAD.
>> IS THAT JUST REITERATING THE TRAINING CLASSES THAT YOU GO TO WHEN YOU BECOME A COUNCIL MEMBER OR IS IT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THAT?
>> THAT'S DIFFICULT TO ANSWER.
TML DOES SOME OF THOSE CLASSES.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT'S IN THEIRS.
I AM SURE WHAT'S IN OURS BECAUSE AMY DID IT BEFORE THAT, TREY DID IT. GO AHEAD.
>> I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, SINCE I'VE DONE BOTH.
I THINK THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THE TML TRAINING THAT YOU GO THROUGH, THAT'S LIKE DRINKING FROM A FIRE HOSE.
YOU GET EVERY LITTLE DETAIL, ALL THE NEW UPDATES THAT HAVE COME OUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES IN, AND IT'S SOUP TO NUTS.
YOU GO FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND YOU GET ABOUT 16 HOURS OF TRAINING OUT OF THAT THING.
THE ONE THAT WE DO HERE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INTERACTIVE AND IT'S A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC FOR THE THINGS THAT WE DO HERE IN PARKER AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
IT'S A NICE COMPLIMENT TO RE-EMPHASIZE THOSE THINGS.
THAT WORKSHOP IS NOT A MARATHON LIKE WHEN YOU DO A BUDGET OR GOAL SETTING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE'RE TALKING AN HOUR AND A HALF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS EFFECTIVE.
>> I GUESS I ALMOST THINK OF THESE AS TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS.
I MEAN, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST BECAUSE I'M NEW TO THIS, BUT WHEN I HEAR THINGS LIKE ETHICS TRAINING,
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I THINK OF TRAINING ISSUES FOR US AS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN A WORKSHOP.I THINK A WORKSHOP IS US DOING THE WORK OF CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITIZENS, NOT US LEARNING HOW TO DO OUR JOB AND BEING TRAINED ON ETHICS OR ROBERT'S RULES OF PROCEDURE, OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
IF WE NEED TO HAVE A SATURDAY SOME DAY WHERE WE SIT DOWN AND WE LEARN ALL THE KEY RULES OF ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER OR ETHICS FOR COUNCIL PEOPLE, I'M FINE WITH DOING THAT.
I WANT TO BE LEGAL AND ETHICAL IN THE WAY THAT I CONDUCT MY BUSINESS ACTIVITIES AND NOT TALK TO SOMEBODY THAT I SHOULDN'T TALK TO.
WE GOT AN E MAIL TODAY THAT LUKE SAID, DON'T RESPOND TO EVERYONE, BECAUSE IF YOU DO, IT'LL BE A WALKING QUORUM.
MY TENDENCY WOULD BE TO RESPOND TO EVERYONE BECAUSE I WANT TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT ABOUT ANYTHING THAT I HAVE TO SAY.
BUT ANYWAY, THINGS LIKE THAT, TRAINING ON WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO, I VIEW VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT ARE THE KEY ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT FOR THE CITY? IF YOU ALL SAID, WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO PRIORITIZE THE TOP FIVE STREETS TO WORK ON IN THE CITY.
THAT WOULD BE A WORKSHOP FOR US DOING OUR JOB, IN MY OPINION, AND I'D BE ALL FOR DOING THAT, OR THE WORKSHOP TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY. THAT'S FINE.
OR A WORKSHOP, EVEN TO DECIDE SOME LEGAL MATTER, WHETHER THAT'S ONE THAT WE COULD HOLD IN CLOSED SESSION OR IF WE COULD HOLD IT EVEN IN OPEN SESSION, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
BUT I WOULD PREFER TO PRIORITIZE WORKSHOPS AS THINGS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ADVANCE THE ACTIVITIES WE NEED TO DO AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON. I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT IT IN THE LINE OF DELINEATION BETWEEN THE TWO OR THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS, BECAUSE IN A ETHICS WORKSHOP, LEGAL COULD SEND US AN E-MAIL THAT OUTLINES EVERYTHING OF THE RULES ENGAGEMENT.
IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS LIKE THE BUDGET, IN MY MIND.
>> WELL, LET'S NOT GET TIED UP.
I THINK THAT WHEN THE TERM WORKSHOP WAS USED, AND I'LL DEFER HERE TO OUR COUNCIL, I THINK THAT WORKSHOP IS A SPECIFIC CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT IT FALLS UNDER, SO DON'T GET TIED UP IN THE ACTUAL JARGON OF WHAT THE TERM WORKSHOP IS WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IT IN BUSINESS.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WHEN WE SAY WORKSHOP HERE, IT'S A MEETING THAT'S SET UP THAT HAS A CERTAIN INTENT, AND IT COVERS ALL THOSE TOPICS.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT FOR CLARIFICATION.
>> YEAH. WHEN WE WERE DOING TRAINING, I'LL USE THAT, OUR ETHICS TRAINING AND QUORUM AND ALL OF THAT, IT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE ABOUT AN HOUR.
IT WENT 3 HOURS BECAUSE OF ALL THE QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD REGARDING, WAIT A MINUTE, IS THIS A QUORUM? IF I GO TO A PARTY AT AMANDA'S HOUSE, DOES SHE HAVE TO POST IT OR CAN ONLY TWO OF US? I MEAN, THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT, AND THEY ARE GOOD QUESTIONS.
I THINK YOUR IDEA OF DOING IT ON A SATURDAY IS FANTASTIC.
A LOT OF IT IS SPECIFIC TO OUR CITY.
WE HAVE A VERY GENEROUS AND WONDERFUL CITY.
IF ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS CAME AND OFFERED YOU A SUITE AT THE COWBOY GAME ALONG WITH VIP PARKING, WOULD YOU KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT? THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THE TOOLS SO YOU DON'T END UP IN TROUBLE, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY INADVERTENTLY GETTING INTO DIFFICULTY.
YOU WENT THROUGH SOME OF THIS ON THE SHOOTING THING, THE TOP COP, WHEN WE HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS.
>> I WENT TO TRIAL, GOT MY ANSWERS, IT WAS QUICK, FAST AND FURIOUS. WE DIDN'T WASTE ANY TIME.
>> YEAH. BUT LIKE I SAID, THOSE ARE THE THINGS. YEAH.
>> MAYOR PETTLE, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO JUST GIVE MY SUPPORT IN TERMS OF HAVING THE WORKSHOP SCHEDULED IN TERMS OF THE SAME DATE AS OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND THEN ALSO JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM REED WAS SAYING REGARDING THE WORKSHOP AND THE FORMAT OF THE MEETING.
THE THE WORKSHOP IS A FORMAT, A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IS CONSIDERED ANOTHER FORMAT, AND THEN ALSO SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE A MEETING FORMAT.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE MEETING FORMATS, AND I THINK IT JUST LENDS ITSELF WELL TO DO A TYPE OF TRAINING LIKE WE'RE TALKING.
>> I HAVE A SUGGESTION THAT WE HAVE OUR NEXT WORKSHOP.
BASICALLY, EVERYBODY, AND OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN, PILGRIM AND THAT COULD EMAIL THEIR THOUGHTS TO LUKE OR WHOMEVER, BUT BRING WHATEVER SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR WORKSHOP TOPICS.
THAT CAN BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE EVEN DISCUSSED AT THE WORKSHOP IS BASICALLY SAY, WHAT ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT HERE INCLUSIVE OF ANYTHING THAT WAS EMAILED, THEN TRYING TO IDENTIFY IT? WE'LL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE IN
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TERMS OF PRIORITY AND HOW MUCH WE'VE REALLY GOT IN FRONT OF US TO COVER IN TERMS OF WORKSHOPS AND GO FROM THERE.>> YEAH. IT MAY BE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IN A WORKSHOP BEFORE A MEETING JUST TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS ON IT.
THAT'S FINE. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE MAY BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY TWO, THREE WEEKS OUT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A WORKSHOP OR A MEETING BEFORE THE REGULAR MEETING STARTING AT FIVE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'D PREFER FIVE, NOT FOUR, BECAUSE I THINK ESPECIALLY, I'VE LEARNED SOMETHING TONIGHT ABOUT THE TERMINOLOGY OF WORKSHOPS.
THAT'S GOOD. I'M LEARNING AS A NEW STUDY COUNCIL PERSON.
I BELIEVE THE ONLY DUMB QUESTION IS THE ONE THAT'S NOT ASKED, SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHOW MY IGNORANCE ON A LOT OF TOPICS LIKE THAT AS WE GO ALONG HERE.
BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON WORKSHOPS THAT INVOLVE THINGS LIKE THE EXAMPLE I GAVE A MINUTE AGO, STREETS, OR ATTORNEYS OR THINGS LIKE THAT THAT INVOLVE THE CITY, I THINK THOSE SHOULD START AT FIVE O'CLOCK OR LATER SO THAT WE HAVE MORE CITIZENS THAT ARE ABLE TO BE HERE AND PARTICIPATE IN THEM.
IF WE'RE DOING TRULY WHAT'S A TRAINING WORKSHOP, THAT'S MORE FOR US JUST MAKING SURE WE KNOW THE RULES OF THE ROAD.
I'D BE OPEN TO THOSE BEING DONE AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY, SATURDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, CITIZENS ARE WELCOME TO ANY OF THEM.
MORE IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE HERE FOR ONE, WE'RE DISCUSSING THE ACTIVITIES OF THE CITY THAN LEARNING HOW TO BEHAVE.
THAT'S AWESOME. I THINK THAT'D BE TOUGH TO DO IT TOO IN THE AFTERNOON.
>> I THINK FIVE O'CLOCK WOULD BE PERFECT.
>> I ALSO THINK ON THE WORKSHOPS THAT ANY INFORMATION WE CAN GET OUT TO COUNCIL IN ADVANCE OF THE WORKSHOP SHOULD GO OUT.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING ON STREET, YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE THE STREET STUDY OR WHATEVER.
>> IF YOU ALL LET US KNOW AHEAD OF TIME WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, AND WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE THOSE DOCUMENTS, IF NOT, AND WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AT THE MEETING.
ALSO, WHAT I'LL DO IS SEND OUT THE CALENDAR.
AMANDA SHOWED ME HOW TO DO THE CALENDAR THING LAST YEAR.
YOU CAN ALL INPUT YOUR STUFF INTO THE CALENDAR, AND ONLY I CAN SEE IT THAT WAY.
YOU DON'T JUST PUT VACATION OR BUSY.
I DON'T NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING.
IF I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE A QUORUM AT A MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE CAN GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF IN ADVANCE.
THAT HELPED OUT A LOT LAST YEAR.
>> YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU SENDING COUNTER INVITES TO SCHEDULE THE MEETING.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT US SENDING OUR INFORMATION OF WHEN WE'RE NOT AVAILABLE, BASICALLY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] CITY EMAIL THAT WAY, WE CAN CORRELATE THAT WITH HOW TO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] HE BLACKS, SO HE KNOWS YOU'RE NOT AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME.
>> THAT DOES COME REALLY HANDY DURING BUDGET.
WE COULD PROBABLY COME IN WITH 100 AMAZING GREAT REASONS TO HAVE A WORKSHOP.
BUT IN YOUR MIND AND YOUR EXPERIENCE OF WORK WITH SO MANY CITIES, WHAT WOULD BE THE TOP FIVE MOST IMPORTANT WORKSHOPS THAT WE COULD CATEGORIZE AND GET KNOCKED OUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR?
>> WELL, WE HAVE TO DO BUDGET. THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
THAT'S QUITE AN INTERSTATE STATUTE. JUST A ZONE.
WE GOT THE PERSONNEL MANUAL WE NEED TO FINISH UP THAT'S BEEN HANGING FIT FOR A WHILE NOW.
>> YEAH, THE CLEANUP ON THE CIP.
WE GOT COMPLAIN COMING UP THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
PUT ME ON THE SPOT HERE. WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE?
>> DIDN'T MEAN TO. YOU'RE JUST REALLY SMART AND I LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
>> BIG GOAL SETTING. YEAH. WE DO THAT INTO A GOAL SETTING TOO.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BIG ONES COMING UP IN MY OPINION.
>> I WOULD STILL THINK STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER THAT'S ONE OR TWO DIFFERENT THINGS BECAUSE THE ARE DIFFERENT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT WAS WITH THE CIP AND BUDGET.
>> I'LL THROW THAT OUT TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO MY FELLOW COMRADES HERE?
>> I'D LIKE TO PROBABLY GET THE LIST NEXT TIME AND LOOK THROUGH IT.
OTHERWISE, WE'RE JUST THROWING STUFF OUT AND THERE'S NO POINT TO ME UNTIL NEXT WEEK WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT AND THEN GET AN ENTIRE LOOK AT IT, AND THEN WE CAN IDENTIFY PRIORITY WITH INPUT.
YOU'LL SEE IT BY THAT TIME AS WELL.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT GETS OUT BEFORE THE MEETING AND YOU CAN IDENTIFY WHAT YOU THINK IS PRIORITIES.
>> NO, I AGREE WITH THAT. I WAS JUST SEEING IF ANYBODY HAD A HEARTBURN OVER A CERTAIN ISSUE THAT WE DEFINITELY NEEDED TO DO IT, BUT THAT'LL BE GREAT.
>> I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NUMBER OF THESE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS WHERE YOU GET THESE TOPICS TO A CERTAIN LEVEL.
BUT WHEN WE DO THE GOAL SETTING, I THINK YOU DO THIS FIRST, AND THEN YOU GO IN WITH A GOAL SETTING AND WITH A GOAL SETTING, YOU GO AHEAD AND YOU TICK OFF THE ONES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
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GET DONE AND HAVE THEM IN A PRIORITY ORDER.>> I WOULD INVITE OUR CITIZENS TO TELL US WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM TOO, AND WE MAY GET A LIST OF 50 THINGS AND MAYBE WAY MORE THAN WE CAN DO, BUT WE MAY SEE TWO OR THREE THAT REALLY STAND OUT THAT WE HADN'T THOUGHT OF.
>> YEAH. WE'RE HAVING THE LEGAL WORKSHOP ON JULY 2ND.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A BUNCH OF CITIZENS WITH GREEN CARDS SHARING WITH US THEIR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, OR SENDING EMAILS TO LUKE THAT HE COULD PASS ALONG BECAUSE HE CAN SEND US AN EMAIL TO ALL OF US THAT'S NOT A QUORUM.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO EMAIL LUKE ON DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT ARE THEIR CONCERNS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE US DO.
>> YEAH, TO ME, WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO COMMENTS FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
THEY'RE WELCOME TO SEND EMAILS TO LUKE TO ANY OF US ANYTIME, THEY FEEL THE NEED.
WHAT I'M GETTING IS WE'LL HAVE WORKSHOPS BEFORE EVERY COUNCIL MEETING STARTING AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
IS THAT THE AGREEMENT? WE WILL SEND OUT INFORMATION REGARDING THOSE.
>> WE'RE DOING THAT FOR THE NEXT LIKE FIVE COUNCIL MEETINGS OR THE NEXT 50 COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHAT'S THE PLAN?
>> UNTIL WE'RE DONE. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
>> YEAH. JUST MY $0.02 WORTH OF THE WAY THAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IS YOU JUST PUT THEM OUT THERE EVERY TIME.
IF YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE IT, YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW WHEN WE DO THE COUNCIL MEETING AGENDAS AND SO FORTH, IF WE DON'T HAVE TO GET TOGETHER, THERE'S NO REASON TO GET TOGETHER JUST TO GET TOGETHER.
BUT I FEEL THAT THERE'S ENOUGH ON THE TABLE THAT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO IT FOR A WHILE, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST SCHEDULE IT, SO WE NOT GET KNOCKED OUT.
>> I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT IF WE START THE WORKSHOP AT FIVE O'CLOCK, AND THEN THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WOULD START AT SEVEN, THAT GIVES US A TWO-HOUR WORKSHOP, AND I WONDER IF WE ALWAYS NEED THAT MUCH TIME.
I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE BE FLEXIBLE IN TERMS OF THE TOPIC AND THE CONTENT THAT WE NEED TO COVER DURING THE WORKSHOP AND BE FLEXIBLE TO EITHER START IT AT 6-7 FOR AN HOUR OR 5-7 FOR TWO HOURS AND HAVE ONE OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS DEPENDING UPON CONTENT.
>> AGAIN, IT'S A MATTER OF JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALL PLANNING FOR IT IN ADVANCE SO THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE TIMES WHEN IT COMES UP WHERE YOU HAVE A MEETING LAY IT, I COME IN LATE ON FLIGHT, WHATEVER, AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT.
BUT IF YOU JUST ASSUME THAT IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE THERE AT FIVE O'CLOCK, THEN YOU CAN ARRANGE ACCORDINGLY.
>> WE GOT APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS LEFT IF WE DID TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS PER MONTH.
DO YOU THINK WE HAVE THAT MANY? I DON'T KNOW.
>> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO DO.
WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET INTO THE GOAL SIDE OF IT.
LAST YEAR, I LOOK AT ALL THE WORKSHOPS WE HAD, WHAT WE GOT DONE, AND I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN HOW MUCH WE GOT DONE.
I THINK THAT WE COULD DO BETTER.
>> YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WORKSHOPS WE HAD ON CIP, BUT THAT TOOK A LOT.
THE BUDGET IS GENERALLY ABOUT FOUR WORKSHOPS BECAUSE WE START WITH BUDGET 101 TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY EVEN UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE BEGIN AND THEN WE GO AFTER THAT.
>> THAT WAS FOUR ONE-HOUR WORKSHOPS OR FOUR TWO-HOUR WORKSHOPS IN THE PAST, THE ONE YOU'RE REFERENCING.
>> I WOULD SAY IN MOST CASES, MOST OF THEM WERE ALWAYS TWO HOURS.
>> YEAH. THEY DON'T ALWAYS LAST THAT LONG, BUT THAT'S THE SCHEDULE TIME.
>> STARTS GLOSSING OVER ABOUT TWO HOURS AND THE NUMBERS.
>> BUT EVEN IF WE DID A TWO-HOUR ONE, IF WE WERE DONE IN AN HOUR AND A HALF, WE CAN'T GO INTO EXECUTIVE COUNCIL OR MOVE ON A MEETING BECAUSE IT'S SCHEDULED TIME, CORRECT?
>> WELL, WE CAN DO CERTAIN THINGS. WE CAN MAKE IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO DO IS HAVE US BE ABLE TO PINPOINT BETTER FOR OUR RESIDENTS WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO START.
>> LET'S JUST EVALUATE THE TOPIC EACH TIME ON FRIDAY WHEN THE AGENDA GOES OUT AND MAKE A REASONABLE DECISION ON WHETHER IT'S AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF OR TWO-HOUR TOPIC.
MAKE THE START TIME BASED ON THAT SO THAT WE CAN COUNT ON STARTING THE GENERAL SESSION ON TIME.
>> I'M SENDING THAT EMAIL TO YOU ALL NOW TOO.
>> OKAY. THEN AT THIS TIME, WHICH IS 6:55, WE'RE ENDING THE WORKSHOP.
AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO BRIEFLY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION HOPEFULLY NOT FOR EVEN 15 MINUTES BASED ON WE NEED SOME LEGAL INFORMATION.
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IT JUST CAME UP. WE WILL BE BACK.>> I HEREBY RECONVENE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 4, 2024 IT IS 7:19 P.M. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK COUNCIL, IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION?
>> MADAM MAYOR, THERE IS ONE ITEM. LIKE TO ADDRESS?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE INTERVENE IN THE CASE WITH GRAND PRAIRIE AND THE ETJ SITUATION BEING UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THAT PARKER WOULD JOIN THAT EFFORT.
>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM READ AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FAT TO INTERVENE IN THE SUIT WITH GRAND PRAIRIE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THEN I CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF INTERVENING WITH THE WITH GRAND PRAIRIE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. COUNCIL, I WILL ASK THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, THAT WE INTERVENE IN THIS MATTER.
NOW, GOING BACK TO HERE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PLEDGES.
CAL ARNOLD, WILL YOU DO THE AMERICAN PLEDGE, AND MR. TARLNA, WILL YOU DO THE TEXAS PLEDGE.
NEXT, WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS ]
LYNNETTE AMAR.LYNNETTE AMAR, 6903 AUDUBON DRIVE.
I JUST WANTED TO STATE SOME COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FOR THE RECORD, AND I RECOGNIZE YOU CAN'T.
>> WOULD YOU PUT THE MIKE DOWN. THANK YOU.
>> SURE. I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T RESPOND TO ME.
REGARDING THE RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS DEVELOPMENT COMPROMISE AND SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
IF THE RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS TO BE CONSIDERED WAS INITIATED IN GOOD FAITH? I DESIRE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY PULLED THE AGREEMENT PRIOR TO ANY PUBLIC STATEMENTS BEING MADE ON IT BY THE COUNCIL OR THE CITY.
HAS THE CITY COMMUNICATED TO RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS TO ASK THEM WHY THEY REMOVED THE AGREEMENT? IS THIS COMMUNICATION IN WRITING? IF SO, CAN WE SEE IT? IF IT HASN'T BEEN DONE, DO YOU PLAN TO DO IT? I JUST FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DEVELOP NEAR US.
THE RESIDENTS OF PARKER ARE REPRESENTED BY THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR.
IT IS REASONABLE TO INFORM THE RESIDENTS OF PARKER REGARDING A LAND SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
IT SEEMS UNREASONABLE TO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATING AN AGREEMENT AND WALKING AWAY FROM THE AGREEMENT PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL OFFERING PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT.
YET THAT IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER DID.BTHE QUESTION IS WHY? I DO ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE CITY PROVIDE NECESSARY EDUCATION TO THE RESIDENTS OF PARKER NOW IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME GIVEN THE INTEREST THAT IS PRESENT.
RESIDENTS NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AN ETJ, WHAT IS A MUD, WHAT IS A CCN, AND WHAT OVERSIGHT DOES THE CITY HAVE REGARDING EACH OF THESE ITEMS. THE CITY SHOULD DIRECT CITIZENS TO COMMUNICATE THEIR DISPLEASURE WITH THESE TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WRITE THE LAWS CONCERNING THESE ITEMS. THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE SHOULD BE MADE READILY AVAILABLE.
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AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A TRAGIC DEFICIT OF KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING, AND THERE'S AN UNFORTUNATE AMOUNT OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND TIME BEING SPENT ON THIS BY PRIVATE CITIZENS AND THE CITY OF PARKER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>> THANK YOU. PLEASE ABIDE BY PROTOCOL.
>> YOU DO NOT SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS.
>> YOU JUST SAID THANK YOU TOO.
CAN I REACH BACK TO CITIZENS AND SAY, THANK YOU.
>> THE PROTOCOL IS I DO THE SPEAKING DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS NO COUNCIL.
>> THAT'S THE ROBERTSON RULES? COULD YOU PLEASE FORWARD THOSE TO ME I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE. THANK YOU.
>> HELLO, I AM JERRY TARTLINO.
I WAS YOUR MAYOR IN 2007 AND WAS THE LAST MAYOR THAT GOT THE DEAL WITH HUFFINES COMES TO TOWN, SO AS BILL CLINTON COULD SAY, I FEEL YOUR PAIN ON THAT DEAL.
IT WASN'T FUN THEN EITHER SO APPRECIATE YOUR GOOD WORK ON THAT.
WE LIVE IN NORTH PARKER, AND OUR PROPERTY IS ABOUT NINE ACRES, AND WE HANDLE THE FLOODWATER FOR ALL OF THAT SIDE OF PARKER COMES RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROPERTY, NOT THE BACK, BUT THROUGH THE MIDDLE.
LEE AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT WE ARE BESET WITH EROSION PROBLEMS WHICH ARE TURNING INTO A HUGE PROBLEM, AND WE'RE ACCELERATING GREATLY.
SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED IT'S BEEN RAINING, AND WE'VE PROBABLY GOTTEN TWO YEARS WORTH OF FLOODING HERE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS ON THIS PROPERTY AND SO WE'RE MADLY OUT THERE, BRINGING CONCRETE TRUCKS IN, TRYING TO STOP IT.
IN ANY CASE LONG AGO, PARKER INADVERTENTLY LET THE DEVELOPER OF THE KNOLLS FILL IN THE FLOODPLAIN, WHICH CREATED A COMPRESSION OF THE WATER AND AT THE SAME TIME WHEN PARKER RANCH WENT IN, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY RETENTION PONDS UP THERE.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GO TO SAY, WHAT I'M GOING TO PASS OUT A FEW HANDOUTS.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH.
BUT I'VE GOT SOME CARDS WITH MY CELL PHONE NUMBERS, AND I WOULD BE VERY APPRECIATIVE TO THOSE OF YOU WHO WILL TO JUST COME OVER.
IT'S A LOT EASIER TO JUST SIT THERE AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT IT'S TURNING INTO A HUGE PROBLEM, AND WE ARE PANICKED ON THIS DEAL RIGHT NOW.
IF I MAY CELL PHONE NUMBER ON THERE. [INAUDIBLE]
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. CALL ME ANYTIME.
I LIVE THERE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO JUST HAVE YOU COME OVER AND TAKE A LOOK. THANK YOU.
>> I'M SORRY. I WAS TALKING BACK THERE TO ANOTHER CITIZEN.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE OF YOU WHO SERVE, OUR COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
I JUST BRIEFLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CONFUSION AT THE INTERSECTION OF ALLEN HEIGHTS AND CHAPARRAL.
WELL, MYSELF, I HAVE SEEN NOT THE ACTUAL ACCIDENT, BUT WHAT'S BEEN LEFT OF THE ACCIDENT OR HAVING TO RE-ROUTE AROUND THE ACCIDENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
I KNOW THAT'S HAPPENED TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE KNOLLS AS WELL.
THAT'S WHERE I HAPPEN TO LIVE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN I COME OUT OF THE KNOLLS AND I TAKE LEFT HAND TURN LIKE GOING TOWARD KROGER, WE ALL KNOW WHERE THAT IS.
WELL, THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING EAST ON CHAPARRAL THAT TAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN AND THEY TURN INTO THE OUTSIDE LANE.
FIVE TIMES, I HAVE ALMOST HAD A HEAD ON COLLISION THERE.
SOMETIMES I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TURN BACK INTO THE KNOLLS BECAUSE IT ALLOWS YOU THE FREEDOM TO DO THAT.
BUT THAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR CITIZENS HERE IN PARKER.
IT HAPPENS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS BECAUSE OF THE CONFUSION AT THE INTERSECTION WITH THE STREET THAT IS THERE THAT IS NOT AN ACTIVE STREET.
THEN ALSO THE BRICK WALL THAT I THINK PROBABLY BELONGS TO ALLEN ON THE ALLEN SIDE IS SO FAR OUT THAT PEOPLE
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COMING EAST ON CHAPARRAL HAVE TO PULL BEYOND THE STOP SIGN, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AROUND IT, AND SOMETIMES THEY TRY TO GO BEFORE YOU GET AROUND IT.I JUST WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THAT.
I DON'T WANT MORE STOP SIGNS OR MORE LIGHTS, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO REPAIR MY CAR OR HAVE ANYONE INJURED THAT'S ON THAT ROAD BECAUSE THEY ARE PARKER CITIZENS.
THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, AND I'LL GO BACK AND BE QUIET.
>> HI, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I AM TED LANE.
I LIVE AT 5004 DUBLIN CREEK LANE IN PARKER.
I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE INTERVENING INTO THE GRAND PRAIRIE LAWSUIT.
BUT I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT WHEN WE GET TO ITEMS 10, 11 AND 12, THAT YOU VOTE TO DENY THE WITHDRAWAL OF LAND FROM THE ETJ.
OBVIOUSLY, PARKER NEEDS THE ABILITY TO CONTROL WHAT DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS OUR CITY.
FLOODING IS A MAJOR ISSUE, AS MANY OF US AS WE'VE BEEN DRIVING AROUND, HAVE SEEN THE EXCESS WATER FLOWING ACROSS OUR ROADS, IT ONLY GETS WORSE WITH MORE DEVELOPMENT.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER DENYING WITHDRAWING FROM THE ETJ.
THE SECOND ITEM THAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE PARKER BE MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT AND FOLLOW WHAT THE CITY OF MURPHY DID.
MAYOR BRADLEY HAD AN OPEN HOUSE WHERE HE INVITED MURPHY RESIDENTS TO COME IN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT WAS GOING ON.
MAYOR PELE, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR HERE WITH PARKER AND WHATEVER COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN JOIN TO JUST HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION, NOTHING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT JUST AN OPEN DISCUSSION OF WHERE WE'RE AT SO THAT THE RESIDENTS FEEL MORE INFORMED ABOUT WHERE THINGS ARE AT WITH OUR FUNDS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TERM DISCUSSION.
WHO KNOWS HOW IT'LL TURN OUT, BUT BEING TRANSPARENT WOULD REALLY HELP THE PEOPLE OF PARKER. THANK YOU.
>> LINDA NELSON, 50802 CORINTH CHAPEL ROAD.
THAT'S WHERE I LIVE IN PARKER VILLAGE.
I SUBMITTED TWO CARDS BECAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT ONE FIRST, AND THEN A SECOND ONE SO I'LL COVER BOTH OF THEM RIGHT NOW.
THE FIRST ONE IS IT'S MINOR, BUT IT'S MAJOR.
I WANTED TO THANK AND COMPLIMENT THE TEAM THAT WORKED ON THE NEW CITY WEBSITE.
HAVING WORKED ON WEBSITE AND TECHNOLOGY DEVELOPMENT IN THE PAST, I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO BRING COMMITTEE MEMBERS TOGETHER, TO HERD CATS, TO PUT THINGS IN, TO GET TESTING.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY IT'S A PERFECT WEBSITE, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
ALONG WITH THAT, AND I KNOW THIS IS YOU'RE NOT TAKING REQUESTS, BUT I'M JUST PUTTING IN MY PITCH.
IT'S INFORMATIONAL, AND IT WILL, I'M SURE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE.
I WOULD SUGGEST A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL COME TO YOUR SITE AS A CITY DECIDING TO WHERE THEY TO COME IN.
SOMEWHERE ON THE WEBSITE, I'M NOT DOING DESIGN.
I'M JUST SIMPLY SUGGESTING MAYBE A FEW VIDEOS ABOUT WHY YOU LOVE PARKER. I LOVE PARKER.
WE SAY THAT ALL THE TIME. I LOVE PARKER.
THAT'S WHY WE ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER SO VIOLENTLY, BECAUSE WE ALL LOVE PARKER.
MAYBE A FEW TESTIMONIALS ON THE WEBSITE MIGHT BE HELPFUL, AND THEN ALSO REMIND US WHEN WE'RE IN CONFLICT SOMETIMES, AGAIN, WHY WE LOVE PARKER.
THE SECOND ITEM WAS COMING UP AFTER LISTENING TO THE DEBATE EARLIER IN THE WORKSHOP.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THAT.
THE TALK WHAT I KEPT HEARING WAS IN HOUSE RETAINED VERSUS OUTSOURCED.
HAVING WORKED IN PRIVATE ENTRIES, NOT PUBLIC MUNICIPALITIES, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THERE'S ANOTHER WAY.
THIS WORKS IN FINANCE, IN ACCOUNTING, IT WORKS IN LEGAL.
YOU RETAIN SOMEBODY ON STAFF WHO CAN SING THE PARKER SONG, BE LOYAL TO PARKER, LIVES IN PARKER, KNOWS PEOPLE IN PARKER, COMES AND SITS IN THE OFFICE IN PARKER.
THAT'S USUALLY MOST REASONS WHY PEOPLE WANT SOMEONE IN HOUSE.
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THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S A COMMITMENT AND A LOYALTY THAT YOU SIMPLY DON'T GET WHEN YOU HIRE AN OUTSIDE HIRED GUN, SO TO SPEAK.BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT IS INDEED POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON SITE, WHETHER THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT MANAGES YOUR HR, SOMEBODY WHO MANAGES YOUR ACCOUNTING, SOMEBODY WHO MANAGES YOUR LEGAL, OR SOMEBODY MANAGES YOUR TECHNOLOGY.
THEY'RE ON SITE, THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU, THEY'RE THEIR DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
BUT AS YOU NEED SPECIALIZATION, YOU NEED CONTRACT RESOURCES, WHETHER IT'S MULTIPLE LEGAL FIRMS. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO ANY 501 C9S, TODD, BUT IF WE WERE TO, WE WOULD GO GET THE RIGHT LEGAL EXPERTS FOR ONE TOPIC OR THE OTHER.
BEAR WITH ME, I HAD TWO CARDS.
I WOULD SUGGEST THE SAME THING IS TRUE ON LEGAL.
I WOULD SUGGEST YOU HIRE IN HOUSE, AND THEN YOU CONTRACT AS NEEDED.
AS YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, WHERE YOU NEED THOSE RESOURCES, INCLUDING INTERNS, RANDY, THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET ALL THOSE SUMMARIES UP TO DATE.
I BET YOU THERE ARE SOME LAW SCHOOL INTERNS THAT WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT TO PUT ON THEIR RESUME.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME. BYE.
>> NO. COME ON UP AND SPEAK NOW, PLEASE, SIR.
>> DAVID HAYNES, 54 30 GLEN LAKE DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS, SUITE 280.
I WORKED FOR THE HAYNES COMPANY.
I REPRESENT MISS ZETA NICHOLSON, ZETA MCCARY NICHOLSON.
SHE LIVES DOWN ON MCCARY ROAD.
THAT IS WHERE SHE WAS BORN ON HER FAMILY FARM 84 YEARS YOUNG AGO.
I ALSO REPRESENT HER SISTER'S FAMILY ESTATE, THE ESTATE OF MARTHA JANE MOSLEY.
THEY HAVE FILED PETITIONS, VALID PETITIONS PER STATE LAW VIA SENATE BILL 2038 TO REMOVE THEIR LAND FROM THE ETJ.
THEY HIRED THE LAW FIRM THAT WROTE THE LAW FOR THE STATE, AND THEY WOULD LIKE THEIR LAND TO BE REMOVED.
MISS AEDES LIVED THERE HER ENTIRE LIFE.
HER FATHER'S HOUSE IS STILL STANDING AND WAS THE FIRST PROPERTY BUILT IN PARKER PER SE.
THEY THEY VIEW IT'S WHAT'S BEST IN THEIR INTEREST. I'M NOT A DEVELOPER.
I REPRESENT THEM AND PER STATE LAW UNDER THE SENATE BILL 2038.
ALL MUST AMEND AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO UPHOLD THE LAWS, AND MUST AMEND THE ETJ BOUNDARY MAP WITHIN 45 DAYS OF THE PETITION.
SO YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE LOOKING TO ENFORCE THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE LAWS AND HOPE ALL IS NEW SWORN IN COUNCIL MEMBERS UPHOLD THE LAW. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I WILL LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT CAME IN AND WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES OF THIS MEETING.
THEY ARE FROM RAY HEMMING, FRANK GUNN, LYNN OROSCA, AND CARL ARNOLD.
JUST SO ALL KNOW. AT THIS TIME,
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
WE'LL TALK ABOUT ITEMS OF INTEREST.PARKS AND REX COMMISSION HAS A SPECIAL MEETING TOMORROW WEDNESDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM.
THIS MEETING IS FOR THE PLANNING OF PARKER FEST.
ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF THE PARKER FEST COMMITTEE AND PLANNING FOR IT.
SHOW UP. WE'LL BE LOVED TO HAVE YOU IT'S FUN, AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY DO A GREAT JOB.
PARKS AND REX'S REGULAR MEETING IS WEDNESDAY, JUNE 12 AT 5:00 P.M. AND I'LL NOTE NOW THAT CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSED JULY 4.
NEXT, WE WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
OH, EXCUSE ME. WE HAVE ONE FROM SCOTT LIVESEY.
STUCK A LITTLE COMMENT IN ON ME AND I DIDN'T GET IT.
BUT ALL OF THOSE WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING.
NOW WE'LL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR APRIL 23, 2024, APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR MAY 14, 2024, AND APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR MAY 21, 2024.[01:15:04]
COUNSEL, DO ANY OF ALL WISH TO HAVE ANY OF THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA PULLED OFF? NOT HEARING THAT, I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION.>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THAT MOTION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER NOE AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM REID TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
>> I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THE 423 MINUTES.
SO DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, I THINK IT SAID IN THE MINUTES THAT WE HAD LIKE 25 CITIZENS COME IN AND COMMENT.
BUT I REMEMBER AT THE MEETING, WE SAID THAT WE HAD LIKE 62 CARDS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE DISCREPANCY THERE.
>> THE DISCREPANCY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS, SEVERAL OF THE PEOPLE HAD LEFT, SO THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY SPEAK, AND OTHER PEOPLE GAVE BUDDY PILGRIM THEIR MINUTES.
THAT WASN'T PARTICULARLY LISTED THAT JOE BLOW GAVE 15 MINUTES TO BUDDY OR LIKE THAT.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE AS I UNDERSTAND IT. IS THAT RIGHT, PATTY?
>> DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
>> I JUST HAVE A PROCESS QUESTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T [BACKGROUND] THING THAT'S ON A MINUTES.
WHAT'S OUR PROCESS FOR SUBMITTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE MINUTES TO CHANGE THEM? DO WE DO THAT IN ADVANCE, OR DO WE HAVE TO BRING IT UP HERE LIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME?
>> THE BEST IS YOU SEND AN EMAIL TO PATTY SAYING, I DIFFER WITH THE MINUTES ON THIS.
PATTY WILL LOOK AT IT, SHE'LL GO BACK AND PULL THE TYPE, DOES WHATEVER.
AND IF SHE FEELS THAT SHE HAS MADE AN ERROR, SHE WILL CORRECT IT AND IT WILL BE SENT TO THE PACKET.
>> YOU WHEN SEND IT INDIVIDUALLY TO PATTY, NOT TO ANYONE ELSE.
>> I APPRECIATE IF YOU SEND IT TO ME SO I CAN FOLLOW UP JUST TO MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE.
BUT PATTY IS THE MINUTES PERSON.
>> WILL ANY OTHER PERSON KNOW THAT ONE OF US HAS AMENDED THE MINUTES VERSUS ANY OTHER PERSON AMENDED IT?
>> WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS PATTY WILL SEND A EMAIL OUT TO EVERYONE NOTIFYING THEM IF SHE MADE AN ERROR, AND THEN SHE'LL SEND THOSE UPDATED MINUTES TO YOU ALL.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS IS THE MAIN THING.
I MEAN, AS I READ THROUGH THE MINUTES, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE CHARACTERIZED SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE 23RD DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY'RE CHARACTERIZED IN THERE.
IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE A FUSS OVER.
I DON'T I DON'T CARE IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND GOING FORWARD WHAT TO DO IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE IS SUBSTANTIVELY STATED DIFFERENTLY THAN IT SHOULD BE.
>> IT'S JUST SUPPOSED TO BE A GENERAL CHARACTERIZATION OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? NOT HEARING ANY, THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
NEXT, WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS,
[5. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-793 APPOINTING 2024-2026 COURT OFFICIALS.]
STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER 5.CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-793, APPOINTING COURT OFFICIALS.
[BACKGROUND] JUST IN YOUR PACKET, YOU SHOULD HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT OFFICIALS ARE TO BE APPOINTED AND INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE OFFICIALS.
>> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? LUKE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY?
>> YEAH. I'LL JUST GO THROUGH A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS.
HE'S I THINK 94 YEARS YOUNG NOW.
THERE'S A NICE LITTLE I THINK THE MUNICIPAL COURT BUILDING IN RICHARDSON IS NAMED AFTER HIM ALSO.
HE DECIDED TO HANG UP HIS ROBE.
DAVID HILL HAS BEEN OUR CITY PROSECUTOR FOR 20 PLUS YEARS.
HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE NEXT PERSON THAT WOULD TAKE OVER FOR JUDGE NOAH.
BUT THEN, THAT'S WHY WE HAD RECOMMENDED JUDGE NOAH AND THEN THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY WOULD NEED TO BE FILLED.
LAURIE, THE MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK SPOKE TO
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TREY LANSFORD WHO WAS THE FORMER CITY ATTORNEY HERE.HE DID GET PERMISSION FROM THE CITY OF GARLAND TO COME OVER AND DO PROSECUTIONS ON THOSE WEDNESDAYS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER IT. THAT'S IT.
>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL ADD IS OUR ASSOCIATE JUSTICE CASS CALLAWAY DID NOT WISH TO BECOME THE JUDGE.
HE WANTS TO STAY THE ASSOCIATE WHERE HE CAN FILL IN IF IT BECOMES NECESSARY.
>> WHAT'S THE NORMAL PROCESS FOR FILLING A POSITION LIKE THIS? THIS IS THE FIRST I KNEW OF THE OPENING, AND WE'VE GOT BOTH AN OPENING AND PEOPLE PROPOSED FOR IT AND A VOTE SCHEDULED FOR THAT PERSON TONIGHT, WHICH WAS THE ISSUE I HAD WITH KATHERINE.
I NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH HER PERSONALLY, AS I SAID LAST TIME AROUND.
BUT IT WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 14TH, BUT THERE WERE IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
IN THE CASE OF HER, THERE WAS NOTHING PROVIDED IN TERMS OF HER BACKGROUND.
JIM MENTIONED THAT NIGHT THAT HE KNEW HER AND RANDY MENTIONED THAT HE HAD GOTTEN HER RESUME, WHICH NONE OF THE REST OF US DID.
I GOT CRITICIZED PRETTY HARSHLY FOR A CITIZEN FOR OBJECTING TO HER BEING HIRED AND SAID, WHY DIDN'T YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME? WELL, NOTHING WAS PROVIDED AHEAD OF TIME, AND I DID HAVE THE FULL AGENDA PACKET.
I'VE GOTTEN A COPY OF THAT TO MAKE SURE I HADN'T MISSED ANYTHING.
I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THIS THE NORMAL PROCEDURE THAT THE FIRST TIME WE HEAR OF AN OPENING IS WHEN WE HEAR OF IT, WE HAVE A PROPOSAL TO FILL IT AND A VOTE SCHEDULED FOR IT?
>> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT, EXCEPT TO SAY IT DEPENDS ON THE JOB.
WITH THIS, WE HAVE TO DO APPOINTMENTS OF THESE OFFICIAL EVERY TWO YEARS.
THEIR TERM MATCHES THE MAYOR'S TERM.
THIS CAME ABOUT REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE AT THE END OF MAY, JUDGE NOAH SAID, HEY, I'M 94, I'VE HAD ENOUGH.
I'M OUT OF HERE. [LAUGHTER] WE GOT COURT SCHEDULED. WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.
DAVID HILL AND JUDGE NOAH HAS BEEN OUR JUDGE AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
DAVID HILL HAS BEEN OUR PROSECUTOR OVER 10 YEARS.
HE HAS ALWAYS SAID, IF AN OPENING EVER COMES UP, HE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UP.
TREY, WHEN HE WAS HERE, USED TO TEASE ABOUT HE WAS GOING TO GO DO THE PROSECUTING AND HE WAS GOING TO COME BACK AND DO THAT, AND THAT'S HOW THIS CAME TO BE.
SHOULD THESE HAVE BEEN POSTED? I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
MOST OF OUR OTHER JOBS ARE POSTED AND WE LET YOU KNOW THEY ARE POSTED.
RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE'VE GOT THREE JOBS, MAYBE FOUR POSTINGS AND THEY'RE ON THE WEBSITE.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE QUICKNESS THAT THIS HAD TO OCCUR, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IS LOOK AT THE POLICY ON HOW WE WANT TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME UP EVERY TWO YEARS.
>> WE THOUGHT WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME WITH JUDGE NOAH.
[LAUGHTER] WE THOUGHT WE HAD HIM AT LEAST FOR ANOTHER COUPLE MORE MONTHS, BUT LAST WEEK HE SAID HE'S DONE.
>> THAT'S HOW THAT ROLLED BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD HIM AT LEAST UNTIL THE END OF JULY FOR THAT POSITION.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
I WOULD JUST ASK, IS THERE CURRENTLY A POLICY WITHIN THE CITY THAT SAYS WHEN A JOB BECOMES OPEN, THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN PROCEDURE TO FOLLOW INCLUSIVE OF POSTING? IN THIS CASE, IT MAY NOT HAVE WORKED BECAUSE OF THE TIMING, BUT JUST CURIOUS IF WE DO HAVE A POLICY OF THAT NATURE.
>> THESE ARE COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.
IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US AND KATHERINE CAN.
>> NOT SPECIFIC TO PARKER, BUT THIS IS COMMON IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL.
BUT THIS IS HOW THESE ARE DONE, THAT PEOPLE WHO KNOW SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE A FIT FOR IT SUGGESTS IT BECAUSE TYPICALLY THESE POSITIONS ARE DIFFICULT TO FIND SOMEONE TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED YOU FOR THREE HOURS A MONTH, THAT THING.
JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE OUTSIDE OF PARKER.
>> ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE A POLICY? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID.
>> THAT'S UP TO COUNCIL. THERE'S NO POLICIES AS FAR AS I'M AWARE OF.
>> I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD INCLUDE IN THE PERSONNEL MANUAL AS A PROCESS FOR REPLACING SOME OF THESE APPOINTMENTS?
>> WHAT ARE THE POSITIONS OR APPOINTED BY COUNCIL? HAVE TO HAVE COUNCIL APPROVAL. ARE THERE MANY?
>> SEVERAL. [LAUGHTER] I CAN GET YOU A LIST AT SOME POINT.
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>> I SAID I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THAT, IF YOU COULD SEND THAT, HAVE LUKE SEND IT, SO IT'S NOT A QUORUM.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTION? GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER KIRCHO.
>> IN OUR PACKAGE, WE HAD FOR JUDGE CALLAWAY.
WE HAD IN THERE AN AGREEMENT, I GUESS, FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT WE GOT A COPY OF IN THE PACKET.
CURIOUS, OBVIOUSLY, THERE MUST BE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT AS WELL FOR THE ACTUAL MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WE HAVE NEVER USED A PERSONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BEFORE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AMY CAME UP WITH AND FELT THAT THAT WAS A NEED THAT PARKER SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.
THEREFORE, IT GOT DONE FOR HIM, AND BEFORE IT GOT ANY FURTHER FOR OTHER PEOPLE, AMY LEFT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF PARKER THAT HAVE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENTS.
ONE IS LUKE, THE OTHER IS JUDGE CALLAWAY.
>> IF WE'VE GOT THE ONE FOR JUDGE CALLAWAY, ARE WE INTENDING TO WRITE ONE UP FOR JUDGE HILL OR NO?
>> AGAIN, THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS DONE IN EVERY CITY.
IT'S DONE IN SOME CASES, SO PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.
>> SO WE WANT DISCUSSION ON THAT? PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE ONE FOR THE ALTERNATE JUDGE, WE SHOULD HAVE ONE FOR THE JUDGE.
>> I THINK THAT CALLS FOR A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL ON HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE IT CITYWIDE.
DO WE WANT TO HAVE CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS OR DO WE NOT? VARIOUS CITIES DO IT VARIOUS WAYS AND TO ME, THAT'S A COUNCIL DECISION ON HOW WE GO FORWARD, AND THAT MAY BE A WORKSHOP OR WHEN WE DO THE PERSONNEL MANUAL?
>> THAT WAS MY THOUGHT EXACTLY IS THAT DO WE WANT TO ADD THAT TOPIC OF SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUT IN THERE WITH WHENEVER WE NEED TO DO IT.
HOPEFULLY, IT'S NOT AS URGENT AS WE HAD TO DO WITH THE JUDGE APPOINTMENT, BUT I THINK PERSONALLY THAT YOU'D WANT TO HAVE IT CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD, AT LEAST WITHIN THE JUDGES AND THAT GROUP.
>> IN TERMS OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT, IN THE ALTERNATE JUDGES THAT IDENTIFIES, THE COMPENSATION IS LIKE $600 PER DOCKET.
I THINK IN OUR ORDINANCES, IT SAYS THAT ALTERNATE JUDGE AND ACTUAL JUDGE ARE TO BE PAID THE SAME.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING COMPENSATION TO BE FOR JUDGE HILL?
>> YEAH. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN $600 FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW GRANT, FIVE?
>> ARE WE ALSO TALKING ABOUT PROSECUTING ATTORNEY AT THIS POINT OR? IN THAT ONE, OUR ORDINANCE BASICALLY STATES THAT THE JUDGE IS BASICALLY COMPENSATION IS IDENTIFIED BY CITY COUNCIL.
BUT FROM WHAT I COULD FIND, THERE'S NOTHING WRITTEN ABOUT COMPENSATION FOR THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY.
SO WHO IDENTIFIES WHAT COMPENSATION THAT IS?
>> WE DID THAT, I THINK THE LAST TIME AT SALARY ADJUSTMENT WHEN WITH ALL THE EMPLOYEES, THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
>> IT'S BEEN THE SAME AS THE JUDGE FOR FIVE YEARS NOW?
>> IT HASN'T CHANGED FOR SIX YEARS.
>> I DON'T KNOW. JUDGE NOAH'S CHANGED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, I THINK.
SO I GUESS THAT ME THE SAME TIME AS THE PROSECUTOR.
>> WE BELIEVE IT'S THE SAME, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WELL, GIVEN THAT, MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024-793 APPOINTING THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS.
MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE DAVID HILL, MUNICIPAL COURT ALTERNATE JUDGE CASS ROBERT CALLAWAY, CITY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, TREY LANSFORD, MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK, LAURIE NEWTON, AND LEAVING THE ALTERNATE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY POSITION VACANT AND EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS FOR A TERM FROM MAY 2024 TO MAY 2026.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER KIRCHO AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER FECHT
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TO APPOINT DAVID HILL TO BE OUR MUNICIPAL JUDGE, CASS CALLAWAY TO BE OUR ASSOCIATE JUDGE.TREY LANSFORD TO BE THE PROSECUTOR, LAURIE NEWTON TO BE OUR MUNICIPAL CLERK AND TO LEAVE THE ONE POSITION ALTERNATE PROSECUTOR VACANT AT THIS TIME.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
>> I WANT TO OPPOSE ONLY BECAUSE I BELIEVE A I HAVE A BIT OF INFORMATION.
>> SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT WHERE COUNCILMAN PILGRIM, STATED HIS VOTE AND WHY.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY IN THE MINUTES TO IDENTIFY IF SOMEONE DOES VOTE NO, AND THEY STATE A REASON TO IDENTIFY IT? OTHERWISE WHEN PEOPLE READ THE MINUTES AND THEY JUST SAY SOMEONE VOTED NO.
THERE'S A QUESTION AS THOUGH, WELL, WHY WAS THAT? AND IT COULD BE READ IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
BUT I THINK IF WE KNOW THE REASON, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL MAYBE TO PUT IN THE MINUTES WHAT THE REASON WAS.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE IN THIS MEETING, BUT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT AND WHAT GOES INTO THE MINUTES, THAT THING. WE CAN DO THAT.
>> WHEN WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE?
>> I ASKED, WHEN WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE? SO I UNDERSTAND BETTER.
WE NEED TO DISCUSS, WHAT IS IT YOU WANT IN THE MINUTES? DO YOU WANT EXTREME DETAIL? DO YOU WANT JUST A ONE LINE? AND THERE'S SOME LEGAL THINGS THAT GO WITH THAT? PATTY WOULD HAVE TO SHARE WITH US THE LEGALITIES OR KATHERINE WOULD SO THAT WE MAKE SURE WE STAY LEGAL.
BUT THE MINUTES ARE TO SOME EXTENT, CHANGEABLE.
>> KATHERINE, SINCE YOU'RE HERE NOW AND OUR COUNSEL FOR THIS MEETING, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM PUTTING IN THE MINUTES THAT, FOR EXAMPLE MY VOTE NO WAS BECAUSE I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I HAD SUFFICIENT INFORMATION FOR AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE?
>> I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT BE PLACED IN THE MINUTES THEN ALONG WITH MY NO VOTE.
[6. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-794 APPOINTING INVESTMENT OFFICERS AND MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE]
THE NEXT ITEM IS SIX, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-794, APPOINTING INVESTMENT OFFICERS AND MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.I BELIEVE IN YOUR PACKET OR MAYBE SEPARATE FROM YOUR PACKET YOU DID GET THE INVESTMENT POLICY WHICH OUTLINES THE JOB DUTIES OF THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.
WE SHOULD HAVE A MOTION BEFORE WE COMMENT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024-794, APPOINTING JIM REID AND MYSELF TO SERVE ON THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE FOR A TERM OF ONE YEAR.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPOINT JIM REID AND RANDY KIRCHO TO BE INVESTMENT OFFICERS.
I NEED TO ASK YOU, ARE BOTH OF YOU WILLING TO TAKE THE PFIA COURSE? BECAUSE IT IS REQUIRED IF YOU ARE ON THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.
>> JIM, YOU GET THE EIGHT-HOUR COURSE NOW.
>> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT IT.
HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN AN ISSUE? IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN IT.
IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PENDING FOR SOME TIME?
>> WHAT? THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE?
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE TERM RUNS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ELECTION.
THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE HAS A ONE YEAR TERM.
THE COURT PEOPLE THEY ALL RUN ON THE SAME TERM AS THE MAYOR DOES.
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AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT COME UP LIKE THAT, AND WE BRING THEM UP AS THEY COME.BUT THIS IS A STANDARD DEAL AFTER EVERY ELECTION WE HAVE TO REDO THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE. DOES THAT HELP?
>> I'M SORRY. DOESN'T HELP AT ALL?
>> THAT HELPS. SO THIS IS LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM NEEDING TO BE SELECTED AT THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING AFTER A NEW COUNCIL SESSION? SO THESE TWO POSITIONS HAVE TO BE FILLED AT A MEETING PRETTY SOON AFTER THAT THEN, WHATEVER PRETTY SOON IS?
>> AND THEY HAVE TO BE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YEAH. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS ONE CAN BE VERY IMPORTANT IS, YES, THE MAYOR GETS TO SIGN CHECKS.
BUT IF NO ONE'S APPOINTED TO THIS POSITION, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE TO SIGN CHECKS.
AND THAT'S NOT A REALLY GOOD POSITION TO BE IN BECAUSE IF I BREAK MY ARM OR SOMETHING, THERE COULD BE A PROBLEM.
>> I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE POSITION, BUT WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PROCESS IF I'D BEEN INTERESTED IN IT FOR ME TO BE CONSIDERED OR FOR ANY OTHER COUNCIL PERSON TO BE CONSIDERED?
ANYTHING ELSE ON 2024-794 ON THIS RESOLUTION ON INVESTMENT OFFICERS? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING RANDY KIRCHO AND JIM REID TO THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
THANK YOU. NEXT IS ITEM SEVEN.
[7. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, AND ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-795 AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR OF PARKER TO EXECUTE A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, PROVIDING FOR THE AMENDMENT OF RESOLUTION 2023-738 OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PARKER AUTHORIZING OFFICIAL BANKING SIGNATURES]
DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-795, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR OF PARKER TO EXECUTE A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, PROVIDING FOR THE AMENDMENT OF RESOLUTION 2023-738 OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PARKER, TEXAS, AUTHORIZING BANK SIGNATURES.WE HAVE TO DO NEW SIGNATURE CARDS AFTER EVERY ELECTION, AND THIS JUST AUTHORIZES ME TO MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE.
BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, GRANT, REALLY, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR REALLY MAKES SURE IT HAPPENS.
SO IS THERE DISCUSSION OR A MOTION? MR. KIRCHO?
>> MADAM MAYOR, MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024-795, AUTHORIZING OFFICIAL BANKING SIGNATURES, ADDING MYSELF AS AN AUTHORIZED SIGNATORY ON THE CITY'S DEPOSITORY ACCOUNTS WITH AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK OF TEXAS.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THE MOTION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON BANK ALLOWING ME TO TAKE CARE OF THE OFFICIAL BANKING SIGNATURES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES, 5-0.
>> ITEM 8. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER
[8. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-796, REGARDING NOMINATIONS OF A PRIMARY AND AN ALTERNATE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL (RTC).]
2024-796 REGARDING NOMINATIONS OF A PRIMARY AND AN ALTERNATE REPRESENTATIVE FOR REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL.THIS IS A NEW THING THAT JUST CAME UP, NOT LONG AGO.
WE GOT NOTICE THAT THERE ARE SEATS ON THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL AND THAT WE WERE ASKED TO SUPPORT THE NOMINATIONS OF, I BELIEVE IT'S THE MAYOR OF WYLIE. PARDON?
WE CAN DO THAT OR WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
ONE THING THAT HAPPENS WITH PARKER ON THINGS LIKE THIS, IT'S REAL HARD FOR US TO NOMINATE A MEMBER FROM PARKER BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE SIX VOTES WHERE IF THEY'RE FROM SAY PLANO,
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THEY GOT 290 VOTES AND WE DON'T DO VERY WELL.IF WE WANT TO PURSUE THIS IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN WHERE WE CAN HELP SUPPORT SOMEONE GET WELL KNOWN IN THE COMMUNITY ON THIS.
I THINK THIS IS ALSO THE ONE ED STANDRIDGE WORKED WITH.
THEY DO HAVE COLLIN COUNTY MEETINGS.
WHEN MR. STANDRIDGE WAS ON CITY COUNCIL, HE WAS THE CITY COUNCIL'S REPRESENTATIVE.
AND THEN IT CAME TO ME AND WE SAT THROUGH THOSE.
BUT I DON'T REMEMBER, SINCE AFTER COVID THERE HASN'T BEEN REALLY ANY LOCAL COLLIN COUNTY MEETINGS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, AT LEAST I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY NOTIFICATION ON THAT.
>> I GUESS WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION WITHOUT THE MOTION YET, BUT WHAT'S THE DUTIES OF THE COMMITTEE?
>> THEY WORK WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COG AND THEN THEY WORK WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE 75 IF THEY'RE ADDING HOV LANES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE'S FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THOSE THAT WILL COME DOWN.
THEY WORK THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND LET EVERYONE IN THE AREA KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE COG LEVEL.
>> THEY'RE ALSO PRETTY GOOD AT LISTENING TO PEOPLE IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THEIR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF PARKER ROAD NEEDS MORE LANES OR THIS IS A CONGESTION IN THIS CITY.
>> DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW THESE NOMINEES PERSONALLY AND COULD YOU TELL ME ABOUT THEM? I'VE NEVER MET THEM, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THEM.
>> THERE'S PEOPLE BEING NOMINATED, CORRECT? DOES ANYONE HERE PERSONALLY KNOW THESE PEOPLE AND CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THEM? BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER MET THEM. I DON'T KNOW THEM.
>> I HAVE MET THE MAYOR OF WYLIE BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW HIM AND I HAVEN'T MET THE OTHER PERSON AT ALL.
>> IF I CAN RECALL FROM THE PAPER WORK, THE ONE FROM ALLEN ACTUALLY HAS A BIO IN THERE.
>> I KNOW THE BIO IS IN. I'M JUST ASKING, DOES ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THEM PERSONALLY AND CAN THEY TELL US ABOUT THEM IS WHAT I'M ASKING?
>> IF WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR SOMEBODY, DOES IT LOOK BAD UPON PARKER? AS WE SHARE WITH THESE OTHER CITIES, I WASN'T EVEN QUITE SURE AS I READ THROUGH IT, I GUESS WE SHARE WHATEVER SHARE MEANS WITH THESE OTHER CITIES FOR A NOMINATION TO THIS BOARD.
DO THEY LOOK TO PARKER THEN TO PLACE A VOTE OR ARE THEY JUST BEING CORDIAL REACHING OUT TO US? [LAUGHTER]
>> YOU SAYING, WHAT DO WE GET FOR SUPPORTING THESE?
>> WHAT DO WE GET FOR VOTING FOR STRANGERS?
>> YEAH. WHO ASKED US TO? WHO RECOMMENDED THESE TO US?
>> I GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE NCOG LADY, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
SHE APOLOGIZED THAT WE DIDN'T GET IT ON TIME BUT SHE HAD THE CITY EMAIL WRONG, SO WE DIDN'T GET THIS UNTIL LAST WEEK AND WE HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE BY THIS WEEK.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN DO WITH WHAT WE GOT.
>> DO THEY TYPICALLY THEN SEND REPORTS BACK? IF WE SUPPORTED THESE TWO PEOPLE, WOULD THEY SEND REPORTS TO THE CITY HERE FOR US TO IDENTIFY WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR YOU DON'T HEAR FROM THEM AGAIN UNTIL WE VOTE AGAIN?
>> YOU CAN GO ON THE COG WEBSITE AND THEY'VE GOT MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THEN I THINK THERE'S THE COLLIN COUNTY REGIONAL, I THINK THERE'S SOME INFORMATION ON THERE ALSO ON THEIR TRANSPORTATION STUFF.
>> WHEN ED WAS ON THERE, HE WAS VERY GOOD ABOUT BRINGING THE INFORMATION BACK AND UPDATING US, BUT SINCE HE'S LEFT COUNCIL.
>> BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH WHATEVER IS COMING UP FOR BUSINESS WITHIN THE REGIONAL GROUP THAT, THAT WOULD BE OUR TWO PEOPLE TO REACH OUT TO.
THAT IF IN FACT, WE PLACED THEM IN, WHATEVER OUR COMMENTS MIGHT BE, MIGHT BE AT LEAST VIEWED A LITTLE BIT POSSIBLY MORE FRIENDLY.
>> WELL, THEY HAVE APPARENTLY LUMPED US IN WITH ALLEN, LAVON, LUCAS, MURPHY, PARKER, ROWLETT, SACHSE, AND WYLIE.
WHAT WOULD COUNSEL LIKE TO DO?
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-796, WHERE WE WOULD NOMINATE MICHAEL SCHAEFFER, COUNCIL MEMBER OF ALLEN AS THE PRIMARY REPRESENTATIVE AND MATTHEW PORTER,
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MAYOR OF WYLIE AS THE ALTERNATE RTC REPRESENTATIVE.>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD SECOND THAT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOE AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM REED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-796, APPOINTING THE MAYOR OF WYLIE AS THE ALTERNATE AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM ALLEN AS THE MAIN PERSON TO REPRESENT US ON THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
>> SAME REASON AS BEFORE, JUST NOT SUFFICIENT INFORMATION.
>> NOT SUFFICIENT INFORMATION.
>> OPPOSED, NOT ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO VOTE FOR A STRANGER.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES 3-2 WITH BUDDY PILGRIM AND TODD FECHT AGAINST FOR LACK OF INFORMATION.
>> ON MY OWN MOTION, I AM PULLING ANY CONSIDERATION OF ITEM NUMBER 9, WHICH IS AN APPOINTMENT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE, WHICH WOULD BE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-797.
I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THIS FOR ONE WEEK DUE TO THE ILLNESS OF MISS PILGRIM.
>> THAT'S FINE IF YOU WANT TO POSTPONE IT.
THE FEEDBACK I GOT BACK AFTER I TOLD YOU SHE WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT WAS THAT ALL COULD GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT AND SHE COULD BE SWORN IN AT A LATER DATE. SHE'S FINE WITH THAT.
>> THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
IF SHE WANTED TO BE HERE, I WANTED HER TO BE HERE.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL PASS ALONG YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR HER.
>> THEN WE'LL GO WITH ITEM NUMBER 9,
[9. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-797 MAKING AN APPOINTMENT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION (P&R) COMMISSION ALTERNATE FOUR POSITION THROUGH EXPIRATION OF THE CURRENT TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER 30, 2024.]
CONSIDERATION AND OR APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-797, MAKING AN APPOINTMENT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATIONS COMMISSION, ALTERNATE FOR POSITION THROUGH EXPIRATION OF THE CURRENT TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER 30TH, 2024.IS THERE A MOTION? BUDDY, I THINK YOU HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF.
[LAUGHTER] COUNCIL MEMBER KIRCHO.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024-797, NAMING VICKI PILGRIM TO THE ALTERNATE FOR POSITION ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION THROUGH THE EXPIRATION OF THE CURRENT TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER 30TH, 2024.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KIRCHO AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FECHT TO APPROVE VICKI PILGRIM TO THE ALTERNATE FOR POSITION OF PARKS AND RECREATION UNTIL THE TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 30TH, 2024.
THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-797.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[BACKGROUND] YOU DON'T GET TO VOTE.
>>> WELL, DID YOU GET ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] TELLER HER WE SAID, HI. [LAUGHTER].
[10. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-798 DENYING RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS LLC’S PETITION FOR REMOVAL OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY’S CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY’S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]
CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-798, DENYING RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS LLC'S PETITION FOR REMOVAL OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY'S CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND TAKE THIS CONSIDERATION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION 2024-798 DENYING RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS LLC PETITION FOR REMOVE OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MAYOR PRO TEM REID AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM
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TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-798-9, RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS PETITION.IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY DISCUSSION.
RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-798, DENYING RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS LLCS PETITION FOR THE REMOVAL OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY'S CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES FIVE, ZERO.
WE DID THAT SO WELL, LET'S DO NUMBER 11.
[11. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-799 DENYING ZN PROPERTY HOLDINGS, LLC’S PETITION FOR REMOVAL OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY’S CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY’S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]
CONSIDERATION AND OR APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-799, DENYING Z N PROPERTY HOLDINGS, LLC PETITION FOR REMOVAL OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY'S CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION [NOISE] AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.>> MADAM MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024-799, DENYING CNN PROPERTY HOLDINGS, LLC PETITION FOR REMOVAL OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MAYOR PRO TEM REID AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER TODD FECHT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-799, DENYING CN PROPERTY HOLDINGS, LLC, PETITION FOR REMOVAL OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER, AND DENYING THE CITY'S CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-799, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSE? MOTION CARRIES FIVE, ZERO. ITEM NUMBER 12.
[12. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-800 DENYING CYNTHIA ANN HARVEY’S PETITION FOR REMOVAL OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY’S CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY’S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]
CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-800, DENYING CYNTHIA, AN HARVEY'S PETITION FOR REMOVAL OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY'S CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.>> MADAM MAYOR, THAT'S ALSO GOT TO INCLUDE CNN PROPERTIES ALTOGETHER WITH THAT ONE ON 912.
>> THAT'S THE UPDATED RESOLUTION RIGHT THERE. SORRY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IS IT THE SAME RESOLUTION NUMBER?
>> NO. IT'S THE SAME RESOLUTION NUMBER [INAUDIBLE].
>> A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PARKER DENYING CYNTHIA AND HARVEY AND CNN PROPERTY HOLDINGS, LLC'S PETITION FOR THE REMOVAL OF PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY'S CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-800, DENYING CYNTHIA AND CNN HARVEY PETITION FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND DENYING THE CITY'S CONSENT TO THE REDUCTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THE MOTION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM REID AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER, NO TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-800.
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ANY DISCUSSION?>> JUST A BRIEF ABOUT A DISCUSSION.
I THINK WE PROBABLY OWE SOME EXPLANATION ON THIS ONE, THAT IT'S PRESENTED AS TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF LAND, TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF ETJ.
AND LUKE OR WHOEVER WANTS TO SPEAK TO IT.
I THINK SHOULD EXPLAIN THIS SO THAT THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE AND WHY THESE ARE COMBINED.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ADDING THE CNN PROPERTIES TO THIS ONE.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS SUBMITTED, AND IT WAS JUST A ERROR.
WE DIDN'T GET THE CNN IN THERE.
>> THESE ARE ADJACENT TRACKS THAT WE C R.
>> IT'S CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY THAT HAS DIFFERENT OWNERS.
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-800, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FIVE, ZERO.
[13. UPDATE(S)]
MR. OLSON, YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT 25 51.>> YES, MADAM MAYOR, 25 51 I THINK IS A STANDSTILL RIGHT NOW.
THE ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN PULLED OFF SITE TO GO WORK IN THE DFW AREA WITH RESTORATION OF POWER FROM THE STORMS. GARY AND I HAVE MADE CONTACT WITH TXDOT CONCERNING THE DRIVING PADS AND ELECTRICAL POLES THAT ARE NOW ON THE DITCHES ON D HAY.
THEY ARE TRYING TO GET PIKE ELECTRIC OUT HERE TO GET THOSE REMOVED OUT OF THERE.
WE PREFER NOT TO TOUCH THOSE AS THAT'S NOT OUR PROPERTY, AND IT'S TXDOT PROPERTY, AND WE JUST DON'T WANT TO ASSUME ANY LIABILITY IF WE DAMAGE ANYTHING ON.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON, AND THE CONTRACTORS STILL NOT COME BACK TO FINISH THE BOX CULVERTS COMING DOWN PARKER ROAD, SO WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THAT CONTRACTOR TO COME BACK.
APPARENTLY, THE WEATHER IS HOLDING UP EVERYONE WITH EVERYTHING AT THIS POINT ON THAT.
>> CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT AS WELL? CAN I MAKE A COMMENT?
>> GIVEN THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY RECENTLY, OBVIOUSLY, AS THE COVERTS, ETC APPEARED ON PARKER ROAD.
PEOPLE HAD QUESTION AS TO WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I THINK CERTAINLY A LONG TIME THAT IT'S BEEN IN MOTION, BUT REALLY NOTHING EVER APPEARED UNTIL MORE RECENTLY.
GIVEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF ACTIVITY ON THAT ROAD, I'M WONDERING IF IT MIGHT BE A GOOD ADD TO OUR WEBSITE.
I KNOW CERTAINLY WE COULD READ THE MINUTES, ETC AND SEE WHAT IT IS, BUT IF WE MAYBE HAVE SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN CONTINUALLY UPDATE THAT PEOPLE COULD LOOK TO IT AND BE KNOWLEDGEABLE.
>> WE CAN DO THAT. THEY HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING IN A WHILE NOW, THEY'VE CANCELED MEETINGS FOR A WHILE.
WE USUALLY HAVE A WEEKLY MEETING, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE IN QUITE A WHILE NOW.
ONCE WE GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, TIMELINE, STUFF LIKE THAT, WE CAN START PUTTING THAT ON THE NEW SECTION OF OUR WEBSITE.
>> BUT THERE'S EVEN STUFF NOW EVEN THE CULVERTS, ETC THEY'RE OUT THERE, WE CAN SAY, HERE'S WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING.
TO YOUR POINT, THE ITEMS AND THE PART DITCH IS NOT REALLY A BAR DITCH, BUT ALONG THE ROAD THERE ON DEAL, HEY, ETC.
WE CAN PROBABLY START SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY.
>> CONTRACTOR WITH REPUBLIC IS OUT RIGHT NOW.
THEY'VE WENT DOWN THIS MORNING, THEY HAD 35% OF DUBLIN DONE.
WE HAD 480 YARDS TAKEN OUT OF THAT AREA, 300 YARDS JUST FROM TWO HOUSES ALONE ON THAT AREA SO THAT CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN TIED UP.
HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL BE DONE WITH DUBLIN WITHIN THE NEXT HALF DAY, KNOCK ON WOOD, THAT WE DON'T GET ANY MORE STORMS TONIGHT AND THEN THEY'LL START ON SYCAMORE AND THEN MOVE OVER TO GREGORY THOSE SEEM TO BE THE HARDEST HIT AREAS AND THEN REPUBLIC WILL BE HERE ON THURSDAY FRIDAY DOING THEIR NORMAL BOLT PICKUP SCHEDULE AREAS, ALSO RUNNING THOSE TRUCKS.
PROBABLY THURSDAY, FRIDAY, WE'LL HAVE ABOUT FOUR TRUCKS RUNNING IN PARKER AT THAT POINT, GETTING STUFF TAKEN CARE OF.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING PROCESS FOR A LITTLE WHILE UNTIL EVERYTHING GETS DONE DEALING WITH THIS.
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>> WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO GET AS QUICKLY AS DONE AND NOT COSTING US A LOT OF MONEY WITH THAT, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
>> CAN I MAKE ONE TO COMMENT ON THAT? I JUST THINK THAT'S A GOOD SERVICE FOR THE CITY, IT'S JUST THAT WAS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, AND I APPRECIATE LUKE TAKING THE LEAD ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE ALL THE RESIDENTS WANT TO GET THEIR YARDS CLEANED UP AND ALL THAT STUFF OUT, AND HUGE AMOUNTS OF DEBRIS.
I HAVE HUGE AMOUNTS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE ALSO, AND I THINK EVERYBODY HAS GONE THROUGH THAT SO. THANKS FOR SETTING THAT OUT.
>> YEAH. THANK YOU. IT'S LIKE A TREE TSUNAMI ON THE GROUND.
>> NOW, I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE REPUBLIC AS I WAS MOVING AND CLEANING UP MY YARD AT THE SAME TIME AT THE HOUSE WE WERE MOVING INTO, SO WE'RE BUSY ON THAT TUESDAY FOR US.
>> I'LL MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT.
I KNOW THAT MAYOR PETO PUT THIS OUT I THINK PREVIOUSLY AND MAYBE HER EMAIL ADDRESS, BUT PART OF THE SITUATION IS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH DEBRIS AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, SO THEY'RE MOVING IT TO THEIR SIDE YARD.
THE SIDE YARD IS OBVIOUSLY WHERE THE WATER FLOW OCCURS, AND EVEN IN MY OWN SUBDIVISION, MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET PUT IT THERE, AND NOW I'VE GOT A LAKE BASICALLY IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE BECAUSE IT ALL BACKED UP TOWARDS ME.
AS YOU CONTINUE TO CLEAN UP, DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO BASICALLY KEEP IT OUT OF THOSE WATERWAYS.
>> YEAH. WESLEY, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAS BEEN OUT.
I KNOW HIM AND GARY HAVE WENT OUT AND THEY'VE STARTED MAKING CONTACT WITH THOSE HOME OWNERS THAT HAVE PUT IT IN THE BAR DITCHES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEY'RE TAKING PHOTOS, DOCUMENTING IT AND THEN MAKING CONTACT WITH THOSE HOME OWNERS, SO WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND PROCESS FOR THAT.
>> IT'S SAFE IF THE CITIZENS PUT IT ON THE CONCRETE, CORRECT?
>> YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO GET THAT BOOM TRUCK IN THERE AND PICK IT UP.
>> IF THEY PUT TO CONCRETE THE PROCESS TO GO QUICKER IN THEORY?
>> IT CAN GO A LOT QUICKER, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT A TON OF DEBRIS.
WHEN YOU GET, 300 YARDS FROM TWO HOUSES ALONG THAT AREA, THAT TENDS TO TAKE A LONG TIME.
BUT AS LONG AS THERE'S NO OVERHEAD POWER LINES OR STUFF LIKE THAT, WE CAN MAKE IT GO A LOT QUICKER IN THAT PROCESS, GETTING THEM IN AND OUT.
>> I WAS GOING TO SHOW YOU THE WEBSITE, BUT I CAN'T GET MY THING TO WORK.
IF YOU GO ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
LAURIE AND ROBIN HAVE DONE, IT WON'T CONNECT TO THE INTERNET FOR SOME REASON, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> COULD YOU DRAW PICTURES OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR US?
>> IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY [OVERLAPPING] YEAH, THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T GIVE ME ACCESS.
THOSE LADIES HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THAT WEBSITE.
STILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SEND PHOTOS IN.
IT'S BEEN PHENOMENAL, IT LOOKS A LOT BETTER IT BRINGS US INTO THE 2020.
>> OTHER THINGS, SINCE SHE'S IN THE ROOM, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU RECOGNITION BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HELP FROM MISS TERRY BACK THERE, SO THANK YOU, TERRY FOR ALL YOU DID.
>> THANK YOU, TERRY, AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON IT.
>> SHE'S MISSING COUNCIL. SHE'S HERE TONIGHT.
THEY'RE STILL DOING TWEAKS TO THE WEBSITE AND EVERYTHING NOW THAT IT'S LIVE.
BEAR WITH US IF YOU SEE SOME THINGS CHANGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS FRIENDLY, AS EASY AS POSSIBLE TO USE WITH THE HOT LINK BUTTONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND I THINK IT'S DONE A GREAT JOB.
>> IT'S AWESOME, BUT IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS FOR THINGS TO GO ON IT OR THAT WE'VE MISSED OR SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING RIGHT, PLEASE LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE MAY NOT SEE EVERYTHING.
SOMETHING MAY BE VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU TO GO ON THE WEBSITE THAT WENT OVER OUR HEAD, SO LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE WILL LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
BUT IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN IT WAS AND I'M SO PROUD OF THE STAFF FOR DOING THAT.
>> IT'S MUCH CLEANER AND EASY TO SEE THINGS AND GET TO THINGS.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS I HAD HEARD AND FOR MYSELF, TRYING TO GET THE STUFF AND FINDING IT.
>> OUR DRAFTING TEAM BASICALLY HAS PASSED ON WHAT WE FEEL IS A PRETTY GOOD DRAFT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
THEY'VE STARTED A REVIEW OF IT AND LAST, I UNDERSTOOD, THEY'VE ASKED PATTY TO COME UP WITH A MEETING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE THAT THEY COULD GET THE PEOPLE TOGETHER TO START THEIR REVIEW OF IT WITH EVENTUALLY PASSING A DRAFT TO COUNCIL FOR OUR REVIEW.
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>> MADAM MAYOR, WITH RESPECT TO THE CIP DOCUMENT ITSELF, THERE ARE A FEW UPDATES THAT WE WILL BE WORKING TO INCORPORATE, IS A LIVING DOCUMENT, AS WE ALL KNOW.
BUT THEN ALSO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE A FEW ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ONGOING IN TERMS OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE OUTLINED IN IT.
WE CAN MAYBE ASK MR. MACHADO TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE REGARDING THE MAINTENANCE WORK THAT'S GOING ON ON THE STREETS, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S UNDERWAY, AND ALSO MAYBE AN UPDATE REGARDING THE WATER LINES THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED IN THAT PLAN FOR DUBLIN ROAD.
YOURSELF, LUKE, OR MR. MACHADO.
>> THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
AS FAR AS LOUIS LINE GOES, WE'VE REPAIRED THE SECTIONS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE OURS.
THEY'RE STILL DISCREPANCIES WITH THE CITY OF LUCAS.
THEIR NEW MANAGER STARTED, I BELIEVE, WHAT IS TODAY.
>> HE STARTED TODAY, SO WE'LL GIVE HIM A WEEK AND THEN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND GO FROM THERE ON THE OWNERSHIP AND THEN ON DUBLIN ROAD, JOHN SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY MEET THAT ORIGINAL DEADLINE OF OCTOBER 30.
>> THAT DEADLINE LOOKS LIKE IT'S SCHEDULED TODAY, BUT IT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE [INAUDIBLE]
>> WELL THEY'VE BEEN OUT SURVEYING AND I THINK THEY HAD TO DELAY SOME OF THE SURVEYING BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE STORM DAMAGE THAT WAS OUT IN THOSE AREAS THAT THEY NEEDED TO GET INTO.
THEY HAD BEEN OUT DOING THAT WORK, AT LEAST THE LAST TWO WEEKS I KNOW OF OFF AND ON.
>> LOIS LANE. I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID.
AS I DROVE OUT LOIS LANE, THE PART THAT WAS PATCHED, I THINK PEOPLE ARE SCRATCHING THEIR HEAD AS TO, WAS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT? [LAUGHTER] I DON'T RECALL IT.
BUT THE BIG PORTION, THAT IS, IN FACT, THE PART WHERE I THINK EVERYONE FELT WAS GOING TO GET PATCHED, OBVIOUSLY IS STILL THERE WHERE HALF THE ROAD IS BASICALLY DOWN TO BASE, AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
FROM THAT STANDPOINT, AS WE ARGUE WHOSE IS WHOSE, IT COULD GO ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME MORE, AND THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE ROAD DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.
I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT WAS THE PART THAT WAS GOING TO GET REPAIRED.
CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE SOME ESTIMATE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE AS TO WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD FIXED.
>> WE DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY PART OF THE ROAD THAT WE DIDN'T BELIEVE WAS OURS IN THE ESTIMATES PREPARED.
>> BELIEVE AND NO ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
IT'S DOWN TO THE BASE, AND VERY DIFFICULT TO DRIVE LOIS LANE AS YOU'RE GOING NORTH.
I THINK WE ALL KNOW THE SECTION.
IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST TO REPAIR.
>> WE CAN GET AN ESTIMATE OF COST OF REPAIR ON THAT.
>> WE'LL JUST GET A COST, AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN GO TO LUCAS ALSO.
THERE IS A DISPUTE OVER, I THINK THE LAW CHANGED IN GARY KIRKMAN FROM 2015, THAT BEFORE YOU ANNEXED ONLY HALF THE ROAD, FULL ROADWAY.
>> UP TO 15 ANNEXATIONS GOT YOU TO THE CENTER OF THE ROAD.
>> THE WHOLE TIRE ROAD. YEAH. THERE'S A DISPUTE OVER WHEN THOSE ANNEXATIONS AND HOW THEY ANNEXED IT AND ALL THAT.
I THINK THE CITY OF PARKER AND THE COUNTY BOTH AGREE ON HOW THAT WAS DONE AND HOW IT SHOULD BE HANDLED MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY GO.
>> WE'RE HAVING ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH LUCAS.
LUCAS HAS A BRAND NEW MAYOR, BRAND NEW CITY MANAGER, AND I THINK A NEW ENGINEER.
>> THEY'RE ADVERTISING FOR A NEW ENGINEER.
>> YES. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM LONG TERM, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS EVERY TIME THAT ROAD GETS BAD, WHICH IS QUITE OFTEN.
BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING TO RESIDENTS TO HAVE TO DRIVE ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, AND YOU HOPE THAT NO ONE'S COMING AT YOU AND GET HIT.
BUT IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS. WE'RE TRYING.
>> I UNDERSTAND. YOU CAN MAYBE SAY, LUKE, HOW LONG IT HAS BEEN GOING ON, BUT IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
>> IT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE DAY 1 I'VE BEEN HERE.
>> A LONG TIME. THE JOKE IN THE BACK ROOM IS THAT AS SOON AS SOMEONE AGREES, ONE OF THE CITIES HIRES A NEW ENGINEER AND WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE AGAIN.
FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT LIKE THE ENTIRE ROAD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO GO IN AND DO IS TRYING TO MAKE BIGGER THAN A POTHOLE,
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BUT CERTAINLY NOT THE ROAD, AND IT WOULD, I THINK, MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.IF WE SPENT SOME MONEY ON IT, FOUND OUT LATER IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE'S, THEN MAYBE WE CAN NEGOTIATE SOMETHING.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S A DIFFICULT ROAD TO TRAVEL.
>> YEAH. LET US TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND TOUCH BASES WITH THEM.
>> GARY, ARE YOU SAYING YOU REPAIRED ALL THE SECTIONS THAT YOU'RE CONFIDENT ARE PARKER'S, AND THE PARTS THAT YOU AREN'T CONFIDENT ARE PARKER'S ARE THE PARTS THAT YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING?
>> THE PARTS THAT ARE IN DISPUTE, WE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE AREN'T OURS.
THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE OURS, AND WE DISAGREE.
>> THIS GOES BACK TO ANNEXATIONS BACK IN WHEN TRAY PULLED THEM UP '97.
>> WE PULLED ANNEXATIONS FROM DAY 1.
THE ONES IN QUESTION ARE 2014, WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE TIME OF THE CHANGE IN LAW.
THAT'S WHERE THE DISCREPANCY IS.
>> THERE WERE SOME GOING BACK TO '97 AS FAR AS WHICH SIDE OF THE ROAD THE CITY OF PARKER TOOK, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED ALL OF THOSE ISSUES, WE BELIEVE.
>> WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY OF LUCAS AND CLEAN THAT UP.
WE NEED TO SPLIT IT UP [INAUDIBLE] THE WHOLE THING.
>> BECAUSE IT'S REALLY BIZARRE RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU'RE HALF OF IT, AND THE OTHER HALF.
YEAH. IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT IT MAKES SENSE.
>> I CAN IMAGINE BASED ON WHAT JIM JUST DREW OUT HERE WHERE THE RIGHT HALF OF THE ROAD IS OURS IN ONE SECTION AND THE LEFT HALF OF THE ROAD IS OURS IN ANOTHER SECTION, AND IT'S LIKE A PUZZLE.
THAT'S NOT A WORKABLE SITUATION, BUT NEED TO GET IT WORKED OUT.
I THINK THE COUNTIES DO SOME WORK ON IT.
>> THE COUNTIES REALLY NEED TO DO SOME WORK AND WE'D LIKE TO JOIN WITH THEM AND GET THE CITY OF LUCAS TO JOIN WITH US AND WE'LL ALL FIX THE WHOLE ROAD AT ONE TIME.
THEN FROM THAT POINT ONCE IT'S ALL GOOD, THEN WE CAN SPLIT UP OWNERSHIP IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT BETTER FOR EVERYBODY.
>> I CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE APPROACHING, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND PARKER'S MONEY FIXING SOMEBODY ELSE'S ROAD WHEN WE GOT SO MANY OTHER PARTS OF PARKER'S ROADS THAT NEED REPAIRING THEMSELVES.
I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO DEEP INTO A WHOLE ANOTHER TOPIC, BUT IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OR ANYTHING ON THE SCHEDULE TO DO ANY REPAIRS ON CHURCH STREET? I KNOW THE LAST TIME WE MET, THAT LADY CAME UP AND SHE SPOKE ABOUT CHURCH STREET, AND I'VE DRIVEN IT, AND IT'S TERRIBLE.
IT IS THE WORST STREET IN THE CITY OF PARKER THAT I'VE EVER FOUND AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T DO SOME REPAIRS ON THAT ROAD.
>> BUT WE SHOULD HAVE MAINTENANCE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO.
>> WE DO. THE ISSUE IS IT'S JUST MORE THAN A ROAD ISSUE.
IT'S A BIG DRAINAGE ISSUE RIGHT THERE, AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THAT.
>> BUT THE QUESTION IS, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD, BUT I THINK THAT WE COULD DO SOME MAINTENANCE ON THERE TO JUST MAKE IT THAT IT'S SOMEWHAT PASSABLE FOR A WHILE.
THEN LATER ON WE CAN COME BACK AND SCOPE IT THROUGH THE CIP AND ALL THE REST OF THE LARGER CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, AND AT LEAST IT'LL BE DRIVABLE FOR A WHILE.
>> I AGREE. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE.
IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT PUT GRAVEL IN THERE SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T DROPPING OFF IN A SIX INCH HOLE.
>> WE'D RATHER GO AHEAD AND JUST OVERLAY AND MAKE IT PASSABLE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE.
YOU GUYS CAN TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
>> WE CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU ALL.
>> WE KNOW WE HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS COMING UP, BUT LET'S TAKE THAT AS ONE THAT WE WANT TO HIT.
>> I'LL GIVE SOMEBODY MY PROXY VOTE TO DO THAT NEXT TIME IF I'M NOT HERE BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.
THE OTHER THING THOUGH THAT I NOTICED WHEN I DROVE IT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS, BUT THE TREES ARE SO OVERGROWN ON THE STREET THAT EVEN SOME PORTIONS OF THE STREET WHERE YOU NEED TO DRIVE TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD BECAUSE THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD IS SO FULL OF HOLES, YOU CAN'T DRIVE ON THE WEST SIDE BECAUSE IT'S SO OVERGROWN WITH TREES YOU'RE GOING TO SCRATCH YOUR CAR UP TRYING TO DRIVE ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.
>> TREES NEED TRIMMING ALONG THERE.
>> TREES NEED TRIMMING ALONG THERE TOO.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
>> MR. MACHADO, WHEN YOU SAY IT WOULDN'T BE TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE, I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU TO IT, BUT JUST GIVE US A BALLPARK OF A MIN AND A MAX AND YOUR BEST GUESS WITH A HAND GRENADE.
>> I'M GOING TO BALLPARK IT AROUND 202,000.
>> LET'S GET BACK TO WHERE WE ARE HERE.
>> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THE WATERLINE.
I CAN SEE THEY'RE DOING A PRETTY DILIGENT JOB AND TRYING TO DO ALL THE SURVEY WORK ON THE WATER LINE GOING THROUGH DUBLIN.
MY QUESTION JUST AS I WENT BACK AND STARTED LOOKING AT THAT AGREEMENT.
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THEY WERE LOOKING TO BE COMPLETE BY AUGUST 30TH.BUT THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT WAS BASICALLY THAT THE CITY WOULD GIVE THEM THE NOTICE TO PROCEED IN MARCH, WHICH WASN'T DONE UNTIL BASICALLY ABOUT A MONTH LATER IN APRIL.
JUST CURIOUS IF YOU TALK TO THEM AND SAY, THEY STILL THINK THEY COULD GET DONE BY 8:30.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THEY STILL THINK THAT THEY CAN DO IT TODAY.
THE WEATHER HAS CAUSED A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM BUT IT HASN'T DELAYED THE FINISH DATE YET.
>> POLICE VEHICLES, STEVE PRICE.
>> WE HAVE RECEIVED THE FIRST TRUCK [INAUDIBLE] THE SECOND TRUCK ARRIVED ON A FRIDAY LAST WEEK.
[INAUDIBLE] AND THEN THE REMAINING VEHICLE SHOULD BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK AND WE SHOULD HAVE IT BY MID TO END OF NEXT WEEK. [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT'LL PUT US AT FULL STRENGTH THEN, RIGHT?
>> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER UPDATES? THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT ACCEPTANCE OF
[14. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $500)]
DONATIONS FOR POLICE FIRE AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD.MIRIAM [INAUDIBLE] AND MUHAMMAD MARSUDI DONATED ONE DOZEN [INAUDIBLE] FROM NOTHING BUT CAKES, VALUED AT $30 TO CITY STAFF.
SUSAN [INAUDIBLE] DONATED ONE DOZEN DONUTS, VALUED AT $10 TO CITY STAFF.
GREG AND JULIA RAY DONATED COOKIES VALUED AT $15 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE THANK ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS FOR THEIR GREAT DONATIONS.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND APPRECIATE YOUR APPRECIATING THE STAFF AND FOLKS HERE.
IT MEANS A LOT. NEXT, I'LL ASK ARE THERE
[15. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED AT THIS TIME?>> MADAM, JUST TO REITERATE THE REQUEST TO BRING UP THE TOPIC OF THE CHURCH LINE MAINTENANCE DURING THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ACCURATELY A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM OR NOT, BUT EITHER NEXT MEETING, TWO PEOPLE WILL BE GONE NEXT MEETING.
THEN JULY 2ND MEETING I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT RESCHEDULING, POTENTIALLY, A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE'VE BASICALLY ALREADY AGREED TO CANCEL THE OCTOBER 1ST MEETING AND NOVEMBER 5TH MEETING.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS BASICALLY UTILIZE THAT TIME, JULY 2ND, TO COME UP WITH TWO NEW DATES.
>> SCHEDULING MEETINGS AND RESCHEDULING MEETINGS IS UNDER THE MAYOR.
I WILL TAKE ANY INFORMATION UNDER CONSIDERATION, BUT THAT'S UNDER THE MAYOR.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
IF WE HAVE LIKE WE CANCEL FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, BUT WE STILL GOT A WHOLE LOT TO DO, THEN YES, I'M GOING TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING TO DEAL WITH THAT.
JUST LIKE ON THE ELECTION DAY.
IF WE HAVE A LOT AND WE CAN'T MEET BECAUSE OF ELECTION, WE'LL DO ANOTHER WAY.
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO CALL A MEETING JUST TO HAVE A MEETING IF WE'RE CAUGHT UP, NOT THAT EVER HAS HAPPENED, I DON'T THINK.
BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RANDY.
>> THE ONLY POINT THERE, I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE EARLIER WE CAN POTENTIALLY IDENTIFY A POTENTIAL MEETING THEN, HOWEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT, THE BETTER SO THAT PEOPLE'S SCHEDULES COULD BE LINED OUT TO BASICALLY HAVE THAT DATE FREE.
>> OKAY. I CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THE FIRST TUESDAY IN OCTOBER IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, SO WE CAN LOOK AT HAVING A MEETING EITHER THE NEXT TUESDAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE SECOND TUESDAY IF THAT'S AGREEABLE, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THE ELECTION DAY IS GOING TO BE A MESS THIS YEAR [LAUGHTER] IN NOVEMBER.
WE WOULD PROBABLY MAYBE WANT TO LOOK AT THE NEXT WEEK ON THAT ONE.
IF THAT'S AGREEABLE WITH EVERYBODY, AND EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE WILL ALLOW THEM TO BE HERE.
>> IS THE MAYOR THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN SCHEDULE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN'T CALL FOR EVEN A SPECIAL MEETING. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
>> I BELIEVE IT'S THREE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TO ASK.
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BUT YEAH.>> IF THREE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS GET TOGETHER AND ASK, IS THAT SOME ILLEGAL WALKING QUORUM WE'VE CREATED [LAUGHTER]?
>> HOW DO WE DO THAT? [LAUGHTER] YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.
>> YOU'D HAVE TO DO IT IN AN OPEN MEETING WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW?
>> KATHERINE, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I'VE BEEN TOLD TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD DO THAT.
I'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S THREE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A FACT IS. COULD YOU HELP ME?
>> I GUESS FOR THE RECORD, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER KIRCHO HAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE RESCHEDULE THE OCTOBER 1ST MEETING AND [OVERLAPPING]
>> I AGREE AS THE THIRD COUNCIL MEMBER?
>> YEAH, I WENT AHEAD SAID WE'LL GO ON THE SECOND TUESDAY BOTH IN OCTOBER AND IN NOVEMBER, RATHER THAN THE ELECTION DAY AND-
>> WOULD YOU SAY IT AGAIN HERE YOU SAID, I'M SORRY, ON YOUR MIC.
>> OKAY, I DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THE SECOND TUESDAY IN OCTOBER AND THE TUESDAY AFTER ELECTION DAY.
BOTH OF THOSE WILL BE COUNCIL MEETINGS AT 7:00 AT OUR USUAL TIME.
>> I THINK WHAT RANDY WAS ASKING AND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER KNOW SAID SHE AGREED WITH, AND I AGREED WITH IS THAT WE DISCUSS IT ON JANUARY OR JANUARY LIKE THAT.
JULY 2ND, WHEN WE ALL HAVE OUR CALENDARS IN FRONT OF IT AND TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT VERSUS RIGHT NOW AND WE DON'T KNOW.
>> OKAY. WELL, I THOUGHT SHE WAS ASKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE STATUES.
>> SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY, I WAS ASKING SPECIFICALLY TO RESCHEDULE THOSE TWO MEETINGS AND SEEKING THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THOSE TWO DATES WERE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY RECOMMENDING THEN RESCHEDULED DATES.
I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FAT THAT WE SHOULD RESCHEDULE THE MEETINGS AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR EVERYONE.
>> YEAH. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER PILGRIM, ANYTIME I'VE BEEN ASKED TO CALL FOR A MEETING, IF IT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST, NOT BECAUSE WE NEED TO GO ROLLER SKATING THAT NIGHT OR A REASONABLE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT.
IT'S NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM THAT I'M AWARE OF.
BECAUSE THINGS HAPPEN, THINGS COME UP.
WE CAN HAVE IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, WE CAN HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING IN 72 HOURS IF WE NEED TO.
WE ALSO IN A SUPER EMERGENCY, I THINK IT'S TWO HOURS, IS THAT RIGHT, KATHERINE? I MEAN, IF, YOU KNOW, THE WORLD ENDS OR WHATEVER, WE CAN DO ONE IN TWO HOURS.
>> OKAY. KATHERINE, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SO I UNDERSTAND YOU MADE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD DO THAT IN AN OPEN MEETING.
BUT COULD I E MAIL LUKE AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS.
PLEASE ASK IF THERE'S TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO IT THAT WAY, IT'S NOT A WALKING QUORUM.
BUT YET HE'S THE ONE MAKING THE COMMUNICATION.
I MADE THE REQUEST. HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> NO, THAT WOULD STILL BE A WALKING QUORUM.
YOU'D BE JUST DOING IT THROUGH LUKE.
THAT'S IT. IT GETS COMPLICATED.
>> BUT WE DO A LOT OF COMMUNICATION THROUGH LUKE AND THEN HE COMMUNICATES TO US.
YOU JUST SAID WE COMMITTED 74 WALKING QUORUMS IS WHAT I HEARD?
>> IF YOU'RE GETTING TO A DECISION, A COUNSEL DECISION THAT WAY, YES, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
>> DECISION IS A KEYWORD. GOT IT.
>> NOW YOU SEE WHILE WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP, EXCUSE ME, THE TRAINING [LAUGHTER] ON ALL OF THAT.
>> IT GETS VERY COMPLICATED, AND IT CAN CARRY SOME HEFTY PENALTIES, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYBODY GET IN TROUBLE INADVERTENTLY AT ALL.
IT'S WHY WE AS A CITY ARE VERY CAREFUL, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE'VE KNOWN SOMEBODY HAD, AND I'M GOING TO USE MICHAEL SLAUGHTER AS AN EXAMPLE.
WHEN MICHAEL SLAUGHTER WOULD HAVE HIS ANNUAL PARTY, WE POSTED IT BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE ALL PROBABLY GOING TO BE THERE.
WERE WE GOING TO TOUCH TALK CITY BUSINESS? PROBABLY NOT, BUT TO ERROR ON THE SIDE OF CASH CAREFULNESS, WE POSTED IT.
>> KATHERINE, JUST FOR CONVERSATION, SINCE WE'RE UP IN FRONT, IF THERE WERE A PARTY AND WE WERE ALL THERE AS LONG AS WE DID NOT TALK CITY BUSINESS OR MAKE A DECISION, THAT IS NOT A WORKING QUORUM, CORRECT OR INCORRECT?
>> CORRECT. THAT IS, I THINK WHAT THE MAYOR IS TALKING ABOUT IS TYPICALLY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF WE KNOW YOU'RE ALL GOING TO BE THERE, IT'S A POSSIBLE QUORUM AND IT'S JUST POSTED AS, HEY, THERE MIGHT BE A POSSIBLE QUORUM.
THERE'S NO AGENDA ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
BUT NO, IT'S NOT A VIOLATION IF YOU'RE NOT DISCUSSING CITY BUSINESS. YEAH.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
>> SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU'RE AT A PARTY AND SOMEBODY COMES UP TO YOU AND SAYS, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY STREET.
>> THAT'S WHEN I SAY, TALK TO THE MAYOR. NO.
>> [LAUGHTER] BUT IT CAN, WE JUST LIKE TO BE CAREFUL.
>> I THINK IT WAS JUST A ERROR ON THE [BACKGROUND] WHERE
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THERE'S NO PERCEPTIONS THAT ANYTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN EITHER. YOU CAN DO THAT?>> JUST ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION.
OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET TO THE POINT WHERE THE ISSUES THAT WE DISCUSS IN CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I KNOW WE CAN'T DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF THOSE OUTSIDE OF CLOSED SESSION.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL THE CITIZENS THE TOPICS THAT WE DISCUSS.
I WOULD THINK EITHER BEFORE WE GO INTO OR AFTER WE COME OUT OF EACH CLOSED SESSION, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL THE CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT ARE WAITING.
AT LEAST THE TOPIC THAT WAS DISCUSSED.
I MEAN, IT WAS PROBABLY OBVIOUS TONIGHT BECAUSE WE CAME OUT AND TOOK A VOTE ON A SPECIFIC ISSUE AFTER THAT, ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T REVEAL WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS BACK THERE OR WHO WAS WHAT ANY POSITION WAS ON THE E ISSUE.
THEY MIGHT ASSUME SAFELY THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WHAT WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, BUT FRANKLY, BUT NO IF THAT WAS WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION TONIGHT.
>> OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS I SAY, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER HAVING A MEETING REGARDING HOW WE WANT THE MINUTES DONE.
I THINK AT THAT SAME MEETING, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS.
HOW DO WE WANT THE AGENDA DONE? WHAT INFORMATION DO WE WANT ON IT? YES, THERE ARE SOME LEGAL THINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOTICE AND LIKE THAT.
BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND DO A BETTER JOB.
>> KATHERINE, THAT'S A GREAT NOEMRE.
ALSO, KATHERINE, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, IF WE HAD SIX TOPICS AND WE CAME OUT HERE AND WE NAMED THOSE SIX TOPICS WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT CONTENT OR DECISION.
IS THERE ANY STATUTE RULES, REGS, CASE LAW THAT STOPS US FROM DOING THAT?
>> NOT SPECIFICALLY. I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S FACT SPECIFIC ON THAT.
I THINK THAT WHAT THE MAYOR IS REALLY GOING TOWARDS IS, HOW DO WE POST THE AGENDA? BECAUSE YOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS OR TOPICS ARE ALREADY INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA, IT'S JUST A DEGREE OF SPECIFICITY.
IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE TOWARDS GREATER SPECIFICITY, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
>> THE LAW ALLOWS THAT, CORRECT?
>> YEAH. LIKE I SAID, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS [BACKGROUND] OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? THEN AT THIS TIME,
[EXECUTIVE SESSION START TO FINISH]
WE WILL RECESS TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 PERSONNEL TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE.GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0711 CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY, CONCERNING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION, GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0712, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY ON A MANNER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER.
OPEN MEETINGS ACT, GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0712, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY RELATED TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 42, IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT TO THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER, OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL RECESS UNTIL CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I AM RECONVENING THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF JUNE 4TH, 2024.
[RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING.]
IT IS 10:14 P.M.COUNSEL, I WILL ASK, IS THERE ANYTHING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED OR?
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE AT ALL? OKAY. THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED.
IT'S 10:15 P.M.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.