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>> I HEREBY CALL THE CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER]
IT IS APRIL 23TH AT 5:24.FIRST, I APOLOGIZE THAT WE'RE STARTING LATE.
WE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL EARLY VOTING ENDED AND THEY SECURED THE VOTING MACHINES.
THE REASON WHY WE'RE STICKING WITH THIS ROOM, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT IS OUR LARGE ROOM BUT THIS IS THE ONLY ROOM THAT WE HAVE LIVE STREAMING AVAILABLE TO US AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS MEETING WAS LIVE STREAMED.
BUT I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE START.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND ASK MR. OLSON IF I HAVE A QUORUM.
>> MADAM MAYOR, YOU HAVE A SUPER QUORUM.
>> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK RAY HEMIG IF HE WILL LEAD US IN THE AMERICAN PLEDGE, AND IF PEGGY THREADGILL WILL LEAD US IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE.
RAY, WILL YOU LEAD US IN AMERICAN PLEDGE?
>> THANK YOU ALL. AT THIS TIME,
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
WE ARE GOING TO RECESS TO CLOSE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED AND AMY STANPHILL, OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS GOING TO READ THIS FOR ME.>> GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY CONCERNING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION OR A SETTLEMENT OFFER OR ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO CITY COUNCIL UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT TO WITH A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COMPROMISE AND SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BY AND AMONG THE CITY OF PARKER, TEXAS, RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, LLC, AND FOLLOWING ITS CREATION AND CONFIRMATION BY ELECTION COLLIN COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 7, PERTAINING TO DOCKET 2022-0533 DIS, AND STATE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS DOCKET NUMBER 582-23-01498, AND CITY OF PARKER, TEXAS V. TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
CAUSE NUMBER D1G9-23-008332 IN THE 250TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT TRAVIS COUNTY, TEXAS.
>> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE ARE RECESSING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
>> WE'RE GOING TO BUY PIZZA AND DRINKS FOR ALL OF THESE FINE PEOPLE?
>> I HEREBY RECONVENE THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING ON APRIL 23RD, 2024.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY APPROPRIATE DELIBERATION AND/OR ACTION ON ANY OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION SUBJECTS?
>> NO, THERE'S NO FURTHER ACTION.
JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE JUST RECEIVED A DOCUMENT THAT WE'VE NEVER REVIEWED, AND IT'S UNDER REVIEW, AND JIM'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, MAY I MAKE A COMMENT?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE MR. RODRIGUEZ GIVE A OVERVIEW OF THIS FIRST SETTLEMENT DRAFT PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED SO WE CAN GET THE COMMUNITY SOME IDEA OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE TRANSPIRING.
THEN AT THAT TIME, AFTER IT'S DONE, THEY CAN GIVE THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I WOULD ASK EVERYONE TO JUST LISTEN TO THE REVIEW.
HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET THROUGH THIS.
I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, AND WE WANT TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE, BUT WE DO WANT TO GIVE THIS OVERVIEW. IS THAT OKAY?
>> THAT IS FINE. THE PROCEDURE WE WILL FOLLOW IS THAT WE WILL HAVE MR. RODRIGUEZ DO A PRESENTATION AFTER WHICH THERE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENTS,
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BUT THERE WILL NOT BE A VOTE TONIGHT.AT THIS TIME, MR. RODRIGUEZ, IF YOU WILL GO WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
WE'RE HAVING A TECHNICAL GLITCH.
>> HE'S GOING TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF IN A MOMENT.
THERE IS NO ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THERE WILL NOT BE A VOTE TONIGHT.
AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MR. RODRIGUEZ DO A PRESENTATION.
WE ASK THAT YOU LET HIM GET THROUGH THAT WITHOUT QUESTIONS, AFTER WHICH THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU BUT AGAIN, THERE WILL NOT BE A VOTE TONIGHT. MR. RODRIGUEZ.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL TODAY.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH Y'ALL FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
MY NAME IS ART RODRIGUEZ, I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM IN MESSER FORT.
WE'RE A MUNICIPAL LAW FIRM OUT OF FRISCO.
I OPERATE OUT OF THE AUSTIN OFFICE OF THE FIRM BECAUSE THAT'S CLOSER TO THE TCEQ AND THE PUC, WHICH IS WHERE I DO MOST OF MY PRACTICE.
WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL TONIGHT WAS A DRAFT COMPROMISE AND SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS.
WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH AT LEAST TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS WITH THEM.
THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FIRST TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AS TO HOW WE GOT HERE.
RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS AND HARRINGTON/TURNER ENTERPRISES, FILED A TPDS PERMIT WHERE 52 PROTESTANTS WERE ADMITTED AS PARTIES INTO THAT CASE.
THAT PERMIT WAS FILED SEVERAL YEARS BACK, AT LEAST THREE YEARS AGO NOW WITH THE HEARING AT THE STATE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS IN FEBRUARY OF 2023.
THE TCEQ GRANTED THE PERMIT IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR, SO A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
WITH THE DISCHARGE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO GET UP TO 666 UES.
I KNOW THAT MAY LOOK LIKE A JOKE TO A LOT OF YOU, BUT IT WAS 666.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY DISCUSSED MANY TIMES DURING THE HEARING ON THAT.
ONCE THE AGENCY, THE TCEQ, DID GRANT THE PERMIT WE DID SEEK REHEARING ON THAT.
OUR REQUEST FOR A HEARING WAS DENIED BY OPERATIONAL LAW.
WE WERE THE FIRST PARTY OF THE CITY OF PARKER TO APPEAL THAT CASE TO TRAVIS COUNTY DISTRICT COURT AND THAT APPEAL IS STILL PENDING AT TRAVIS COUNTY DISTRICT COURT.
THERE WAS ALSO A COMPANION CASE, NOT THE EXACT SAME CASE, BUT A COMPANION CASE WHERE HARRINGTON/TURNER ENTERPRISES FILED A PETITION WITH THE TCEQ TO CREATE A MUD OVER PROPERTY AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY IN A LITTLE BIT WITH OVER 600 HOMES WERE PROPOSED DURING THAT PROCESS.
BEFORE WE WENT TO HEARING ON THAT, THE RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY AND SOUGHT TO BECOME THE PETITIONER IN THE CASE.
CITY OF PARKER AND CITY OF MURPHY AND THEN MANY OF THE PROTESTING GROUPS PROTESTED THAT ACTION AND REQUESTED THAT THERE BE NEW NOTICE PROVIDED BECAUSE RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL PETITIONER IN THE CASE.
THE SO JUDGE GRANTED THAT REMAND BACK TO THE TCEQ FOR NEW NOTICE TO GO OUT.
AS OF TODAY, THE RE-NOTICE HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED.
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I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S STILL SOME NEGOTIATIONS ON WHAT THAT NOTICE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.BUT THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY IS COMPOSED OF TWO DIFFERENT PORTIONS THAT ARE SEPARATED BY WHAT'S INSIDE AND WHAT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY OF PARKER.
THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 12 ACRES THAT ARE INSIDE THE CITY OF PARKER, WHICH IS NORTH OF WHAT WE CALL THE ETJ PROPERTY OF 103 ACRES.
THE 12 ACRES BORDERS GREGORY LANE ON THE NORTH AND THEN THE ETJ PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH AND THEN SOUTH OF THE ETJ PROPERTY OR THIS IS THE CITY OF MURPHY AND THE ROLAND RIDGE SUBDIVISION.
ALL THE PROPERTY, ALL 115 ACRES ARE INSIDE THE CITY'S WATER, CCN.
WE WORKED WITH THE RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS FOR A LOT TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY OF PARKER AND ULTIMATELY THE RESIDENTS OF PARKER AND THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE THAT WERE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL TONIGHT.
THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAIL OBVIOUSLY IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU'LL HAVE.
BUT OF THAT 12 ACRES, FIVE OF THEM WOULD BE IN CITY LOTS WITH TWO PLUS ACRES.
THERE IS A VARIANCE THAT IS GOING TO BE SOUGHT ON THOSE.
CURRENTLY, YOUR CODE REQUIRES THAT YOUR IN CITY LOTS HAVE TWO ACRES, BUT THE DEPTH OF THE LOTS BE A MINIMUM OF 300 FEET.
THEY'RE GOING TO SEEK A VARIANCE BECAUSE THOSE LOTS ARE APPROXIMATELY 260 FEET IN DEPTH.
THEY'RE FLIPPED FROM WHAT YOUR CODE REQUIRES.
THAT'S WHY THE VARIANCE IS GOING TO BE SOUGHT THERE.
DENSITY, AS FAR AS 103 ACRES IS PROPOSED AT 255 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH AMENITIES.
THERE WILL BE SOME AMENITIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHICH THAT 255/103 ACRES IS ABOUT 2.5 HOMES PER GROSS ACRE.
LOTS WILL BE ABOUT 70 FEET IN WIDTH MINIMUM WITH 2,200 SQUARE FEET OF AIR CONDITIONED SPACE AS A MINIMUM FOR EACH OF THE HOMES, AND THE EXTERIORS OF EACH OF THE HOMES WOULD BE 90% MASONRY.
OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE ADDRESSED IN HERE IS WE WOULD BE THE SEWER PROVIDER, AND AS A SEWER PROVIDER, WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IS, AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THAT VERY FIRST SLIDE, THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY WAS BECAUSE WE WERE PROTESTING AT TPDS DISCHARGE PERMIT.
WITH THE SETTLEMENT, THE TPDS PERMIT WOULD BE CANCELED AND NO WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED AS PROPOSED AND AS APPROVED IN THAT TPDS PERMIT BY RESTORE OF GRASSLANDS THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE TCEQ.
IT WOULD BE WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WANTED TO DO IN 20 YEARS THROUGH A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT IF A MUD WAS CREATED OVER THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER THE TWO ROAD ACCESS.
WHAT WHAT YOUR CITY CODE CURRENTLY PROVIDES IS THAT THERE IS A DIVIDED MEDIAN ROAD INTO THE PIECE OF PROPERTY SATISFIES THE TWO ROAD OR THE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS.
THIS WOULD ELIMINATE THE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO GREGORY LANE, AND THIS WOULD ALSO NOT RELY ON ANY INGRESS OR EGRESS FROM ROLAND RIDGE.
THE OTHER IMPORTANT PROVISIONS OR TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT IS THAT IT'S A 45-YEAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS VERY STANDARD FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
THEY WOULD VEST IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WOULD VEST ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT STANDARDS THAT WE ARE DISCUSSED.
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THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A 30-DAY CURE PERIOD IN THERE IN THE IN THERE.MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND ITS TERMS RUN WITH THE LAND.
IT WOULD BE FILED WITH THE IN THE REAL PROPERTY RECORDS AND WOULD BE JUST BECOME PART OF THE PROPERTY.
>> I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU. CAN YOU EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON THE RUN OF THE LAND? I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR.
>> YES, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IT IS THEN BINDING ON ALL SUCCESSORS IN INTEREST TO THAT PROPERTY.
>> THEREFORE, THE DEED COULD NOT BE CHANGED IF SOLD, CORRECT?
>> THE PROVISIONS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN THE AGREEMENT COULD NOT BE CHANGED UNLESS THERE WAS A AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AS WELL.
OF COURSE, THE SETTLEMENT THEN WOULD PROMPT OUR WITHDRAWAL FROM THE MUD CREATION PETITION AS WELL AS THE TPDS APPEAL BECAUSE OF OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CANCELLATION OF THE TPDS PERMIT, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR THE APPEAL AFTER THAT.
THE REASONS TO CONSIDER GOING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT IS WHAT'S UP THERE, SENATE BILL 2038.
WHAT THAT DOES IS IT BASICALLY ALLOWS ANY OWNER WITHIN AN ETJ, THERE ARE CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS, BUT NONE OF THEM APPLY HERE, TO REMOVE THEIR PROPERTY FROM THE ETJ, THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY.
WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY DOES IS THAT IT REMOVES EVERY CONTROL THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE OVER A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE'VE WORKED WITH RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS TO ENSURE THAT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN DURING THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT.
IN FACT, WE'VE GONE THE OTHER WAY, ALLOWED THAT HAVE ANNEXATION AS A POSSIBILITY FOR THE CITY AFTER THE MUD HAS BEEN CREATED AND THE MUD BONDS HAVE BEEN REIMBURSED.
ALSO, IF IF THEY WERE TO EXERCISE THE 2038 POWERS, THERE WOULD BE NO DENSITY RESTRICTIONS ON THERE.
CURRENTLY, THE 255 OR 260 HOMES, 255 IN THE ETJ REPRESENT ABOUT A 60% REDUCTION IN AND THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY GRANTED IN THE TPDS PERMIT DOCKET.
USE IS ALSO RESTRICTED, WHICH WOULD BE USED TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE RESTRICTED.
OF COURSE, REMOVAL FROM THE ETJ MEANS WE HAVE LIMITED LAND USE CONTROLS, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE NO LAND USE CONTROL IN OUR ETJ RIGHT NOW.
IF FURTHER REMOVED FROM OUR ETJ, THEN WE HAVE NO PLATTING.
BUT THIS AGREEMENT AS ACTUALLY ALLOWS US TO RESTRICT THE USES TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AS WELL AS WHATEVER THE AMENITY CENTER WOULD BE CONSIDERED.
AGAIN, THE REMOVAL UNDER SENATE BILL 2038 WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REGULATE MINIMUM LOT SIZE, MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE HOMES, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXERCISE MAKING REQUIREMENTS.
WHAT WE DO GET IS WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES TO THE PROPERTY.
THEN THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS IN THERE WITH RESPECT TO COST SHARING ON A NEW WATER LINE WITH NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.
AGAIN, BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE, CANCELLATION OF THE DISCHARGE PERMIT.
THAT WAS THE FIRST REASON WHY YOU ALL HIRED ME BACK SEVERAL YEARS BACK. I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
>> AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
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PLEASE COME UP FRONT IF YOU CAN.>> I HAVE TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE [LAUGHTER] YOU SAID THAT THE SEWER WAS CANCELED.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO WITH WASTEWATER?
>> THAT'S THE PROPOSAL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I HAVE TO CHANGE MY QUESTION, OR MY STATEMENT.
YOU SAID THAT IT IS RESTRICTED TO A SINGLE FAMILY?
>> IS THIS GOING TO BE IN WRITING, LEGALLY BINDING? IS IT? YES. BY WHOM?
>> YOU CAN MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.
WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RESPOND OR ANSWER QUESTIONS.
THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE IN WRITING.
WHATEVER THEY PROPOSE OR WHATEVER THEY DO, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE IN WRITING AND LEGALLY, AND BOTH SIDES SHOULD AGREE TO THE WRITING.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE DENSITY.
YOU ALL HAD SAID THAT IT WAS REDUCED TO 255.
I CAN'T ASK THAT QUESTION EITHER.
I WAS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THERE WAS ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.
>> THAT'S ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. THEY SAID IT'S A SLIP ROAD WHERE WE COUNT TWO WAYS.
>> YOU MEAN THERE'S TWO LANES, IS IT TWO WAY?
>> THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT'S A SPLIT ROADWAY, WITH A MEDIAN AND EACH ONE COUNTS AS ONE, ALTHOUGH ONE WOULD BE INGRESS, AND ONE WOULD BE EGRESS.
TECHNICALLY, I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THE STANDARD BUT THEY SAID IT DOES.
>> YEAH. THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE IF PEOPLE HAD TO GET OUT BECAUSE OF A FIRE, YOU'D HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE ROADWAY STUCK AS USUAL.
DO I GET ONE MORE? THAT WAS A CONCERN.
FORTY-FIVE YEARS TO MAKE WHAT? I'M NOT CERTAIN ON THAT.
DO THEY GET TO DEVELOP THAT FOR 45 YEARS? I DON'T KNOW. IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WHICH I'M NOT REAL HAPPY AT ALL ABOUT.
FORTY-FIVE YEARS, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN WRITING, AND IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED EVERY YEAR.
THOSE ARE MY POINTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. CHRISTINA GLENN.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU.
>> I AM CHRISTINA GLENN, AND I LIVE AT 4807 SHADY KNOLLS IN PARKER.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TABLING THIS TONIGHT.
YOU CAN SEE HOW IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS TO EVERYONE.
YOU'VE GIVEN US MORE INFORMATION THAN WE'VE BEEN GIVEN TO DATE.
WE ALSO HAVE A LOT TO THINK ABOUT.
I'M GOING TO YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO STEWART MATTHEWS.
>> THANK YOU. MR. MATTHEWS, DID YOU FILL OUT A CARD.
>> I DID. I'M NOT SURE I NEED A MICROPHONE, BUT I'LL USE IT ANYWAY.
[LAUGHTER] STEWART MATTHEWS, I AM A PARKER RESIDENT OF 4309 GLEN MEADOWS DRIVE. I'M ALSO AN ATTORNEY.
AS YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW, I'M THE ATTORNEY THAT'S REPRESENTING GREGORY LANE RESIDENCE.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE THE MAY 2ND HEARING.
I'M GLAD YOU DID NOT GO AGAINST THE JUDGE'S ORDER THAT SAID THAT YOU ALL COULD NOT ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TONIGHT WITH THEM.
I WILL SAY THAT FOR THE MEETING, I'D LIKE TO GET A CALL FROM YOUR ATTORNEY SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS HOW GREGORY LANE IS GOING TO BE USED.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT AS AN INGRESS OR AN EGRESS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A ROAD UP TO IT AND HAVE IT AS AN EMERGENCY, WHICH STILL AFFECTS PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
THAT'S SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DETERMINED AND MY CLIENTS NEED TO KNOW WHERE THAT STANDS.
ALSO, I DID NOT HEAR IN HERE AS A PARKER RESIDENT, NOT AS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE PEOPLE OF GREGORY LANE.
I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE POLICE, FIRE, SCHOOL, OR THE COST OF THE WATER THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE.
WE NEED TO HEAR SOMETHING ON THAT.
THE LAST THING THAT I WILL TALK ABOUT IS THAT WE NEED MORE OPEN COMMUNICATION.
THE REASON THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE WE WERE KEPT IN THE DARK UNDER A RIDICULOUS RULE OF 408,
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AND THE WORD RIDICULOUS DOESN'T COME FROM ME.[APPLAUSE] THE WORD RIDICULOUS COMES FROM THE DISTRICT JUDGE THAT SIGNED THE ORDER.
HE SAID IT IS RIDICULOUS, 408 DOES NOT APPLY. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU.
WE NEED MORE OPEN COMMUNICATION LIKE THIS AND MAYBE WE HAD HAVE A REALLY GOOD DEAL.
I WANT TO KNOW WHEN THE NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A NOTICE OF JUST 72 HOURS.
I WANT PEOPLE TO HEAR WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE, AND I WANT THAT POSTED PUBLICLY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RACHEL WEEKS.
I'M A MURPHY RESIDENT IN MAXWELL CREEK, AT 432 PARKSIDE COURT.
MY MAIN CONCERN HAS BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THE PROPOSAL OF CANCELING THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THE REMAINING QUESTIONS THAT I REALLY HAD WAS TO REITERATE, WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THE CITY SERVICES, LIKE THE FIRE, THE POLICE, THE SCHOOLS, THE ROAD MAINTENANCE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
THEN ALSO TURNING LEFT OUT OF THAT, YOU'RE GOING AGAINST TRAFFIC, IT'S GOING TO NEED A TRAFFIC LIGHT.
THAT'S DANGEROUS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING OUT AND THEY'LL NEED SOME SAFETY THERE.
ARE YOU GOING TO SPLIT IT WITH MURPHY FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT? THAT'S IT. I'M HAPPY TO GIVE MY MINUTES TO ANYONE ELSE.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS SAMIA ALAPARTI.
I'M A RESIDENT OF 5901 GREGORY LANE.
THAT'S THE OLD ADDRESS, AND THE NEW ONE IS 3420 MAXWELL CREEK ROAD.
WE HAVE TWO ADDRESSES JUST TO CLEAR THE CONFUSION, AND I REALLY DON'T LIKE WHAT I SAW TODAY IN THE PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO INFORMATION, THERE'S NO DETAIL AND NOTHING.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW A COUNCIL CAN EVEN MAKE ANY A DECISION OR A DISCUSSION WITH SUCH A PROPOSAL.
I DON'T THINK 250 HOUSES IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS SMALL DENSITY.
THAT IS A VERY HIGH DENSITY FOR ME BECAUSE MOST OF THE PARKER IS NOT THAT DENSE.
THAT ACTUALLY TAKES AWAY FROM THE WHOLE CHARACTER OF THE CITY OF PARKER.
WITH ALL THE OTHER EXPENSES THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP LATER, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT. THAT'S A BIG CONCERN.
I THINK EVERYONE HERE IS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE LATER ON, AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR TAXES.
I THINK MOST OF US REALLY DO NOT LIKE THE PROPOSAL THAT WE SEE HERE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.
>> JOHN BARBER. DID WE LOSE JOHN?
>> WELL, WE'LL COME BACK JUST IN CASE.
KEVIN NASH. EXCUSE ME, IT'S KEVIN WALSH.
>> I CHANGED IT. I WROTE A COMMENT ON THERE.
I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK. I MADE IT IN THERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> HE MADE A COMMENT. NO, IT'S JUST A COMMENT.
>> IT'S JUST A COMMENT. [BACKGROUND]
>> GOOD EVENING. MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY FAMILY AND I RESIDE AT 6006 BRACKNELL DRIVE.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO SLOW THIS PROCESS DOWN AS MUCH AS YOU'RE ABLE IN THE POSITIONS THAT YOU HOLD.
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BOUGHT THIS LAND AND PLAN TO DEVELOP IT DO NOT LIVE IN PARKER, AND THEY WILL NOT LIVE IN PARKER, WE DO.
WE DESIRE TO HAVE THE DENSITY DECREASED TO THE LEVEL THAT WE ARE USED TO HAVING IN AREAS THAT WE LIVE IN.
THAT'S MY REQUEST TO YOU TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ROB, DOESN'T WISH TO SPEAK.
I'M TRYING TO GO AS FAST AS WE CAN.
>> SHE'S LEAVE, SHE'S COMING BACK.
>> SHE'S COMING BACK. PUT IT OVER THERE.
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>> I'M DIANE DAVEY. I LIVE AT 5009 WILLOW POINT CIRCLE AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PARKER FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.
[APPLAUSE] IT HAS GROWN AND I'M VERY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE SO MANY CONCERNED CITIZENS HERE.
I GUESS IF I HAVE ONE QUESTION, IT WOULD BE HOW WILL OUR TAX DOLLARS BE APPLIED TO OUR FIRE POLICE AND CITY SERVICES THAT WE MAY BE IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT.
I JUST THINK THAT'S A CONCERN FOR EVERYONE HERE.
THEN LASTLY, ALWAYS THE TRANSPARENCY AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME. THANK YOU.
>> MADAM MAYOR, CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY PARENTS HAVE BEEN HERE, LIVING HERE OVER 50 YEARS.
IN FACT, MY DAD WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING WHEN WE BUILT THIS BUILDING AND DID NOT EXPECT THIS KIND OF CROWD BACK THEN.
[LAUGHTER] IN FACT, MY MOM WAS THE DESIGNER OF OUR LOGO AND SHE PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR, A YEAR BEFORE.
WE'VE LOVED GROWING UP HERE, LOVED THIS CITY.
IT'S BEEN A HEARTBEAT OF OUR FAMILY. WE LOVED IT.
WHEN WE MOVED OUT HERE, WE MOVED OUT HERE FROM THE GARLAND AREA BACK IN THE EARLY 70S AND I LOVE THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE TWO ACRE MINIMUM.
IF MY DAD AND MOM HEARD THAT WE GAVE INTO THE CONCESSIONS TO ALLOW ONE ACRE MINIMUM, THEY WOULD BE PRETTY UPSET WITH THAT.
BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO TWO AND A HALF HOMES ON AN ACRE.
I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT WE LOVE OUR CITY.
THE LOGO EVEN REPRESENTS THE COUNTRY, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO KEEP IT PARKER AND KEEP IT COUNTRY.
I JUST BOUGHT A HOUSE ON SPRING HILL ESTATES, SO I'M GOING TO RAISE MY FAMILY HERE TOO.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FIRST OFF.
I KNOW YOU CAN'T SHOW US ALL YOUR CARDS WHEN YOU ARE NEGOTIATING AND I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING ON OUR BEHALF TO AT LEAST COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING ON OUR BEHALF.
JUST KEEP WORKING ON OUR BEHALF AND KEEP PARKER, PARKER. THANK YOU.
>> HELLO, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME SOME TIME.
I LIVE ON GREGORY LANE AT 5908 GREGORY, AND AT THIS POINT, MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL AFFECT GREGORY LANE.
THE 12 APPROXIMATE ACRE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THE RESIDENTIAL LOT WITHIN PARKER CITY LIMITS.
I THINK SHOULD FIT IN WITH THE CHARACTER OF GREGORY LANE AS IT IS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE JETTED OUT FROM THIS MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT ALL OF THE LOTS ON GREGORY 1, MAYBE TWO HOUSES STACKED ON THOSE LONG LOTS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THAT.
MOREOVER, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IDEA OF AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD.
I THINK THAT THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE TO MAKE A RESIDENTIAL LOT AN EMERGENCY ACCESS FOR A LARGE DEVELOPMENT.
I ALSO SPEAK FOR KATHY HARVEY, WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE SHE'S DEALING WITH A FAMILY EMERGENCY AND SHE HAS GREAT CONCERNS AS THAT ROAD AND THE HOUSES THAT WOULD BE BUILT ON IT ABUT HER PROPERTY, HER 12 ACRE LOT THAT'S NICE AND LONG.
SHE HAS WILDLIFE HABITATS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT, AND SO WE OPPOSE THE USE OF GREGORY LANE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD OR
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FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO DEVELOP ON THEIR OWN ETJ PROPERTY.I DON'T THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY A RESIDENTIAL LOT AND THEN USE THAT AS A WAY TO TIE INTO THE CITY. THANK YOU.
>> HELLO, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF CITY STAFF.
I RESIDE AT 5802 CORINTH CHAPEL ROAD IN PARKER VILLAGE.
I HAVE LIVED IN PARKER SINCE 2009 FOR OVER 15 YEARS, AND I LOVE THIS CITY.
MY HUSBAND, ELVIS NELSON AND MY MOTHER, ELAINE HAND, WHO RESIDE AT THE SAME ADDRESS AND IN VOTE IN EACH AND EVERY ELECTION WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING DUE TO HEALTH REASONS, BUT AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT I AM PROVIDING.
I WANT TO SEE ALL PARKER RESIDENTS EXISTING AND FUTURE CONTINUE TO ENJOY THE UNIQUE COUNTRY LIFESTYLE.
THAT'S WHAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS COMMITTED TO AS THEY HAVE RUN FOR ELECTION OR RE-ELECTION.
I SPOKE LAST IN THIS FORUM IN FEBRUARY 2023 TO ENCOURAGE CITY COUNCIL ON TWO ISSUES.
THE FIRST ISSUE WAS THE WORK ON AN INTEGRATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WOULD PROVIDE FULL LINE OF SIGHT OF THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS TO THE CITY AND THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDS.
THE FORUM HELD LAST WEEK REFLECTED THAT PROGRESS HAS INDEED BEEN MADE.
THE FORUM PROVIDED A CLEAR PATH FORWARD TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS, CLOSE INFORMATION GAPS, PROVIDE AN ALL IN VIEW OF COSTS AND OPTIONS FOR FUNDING.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE COUNCIL COMPLETE THIS VERY IMPORTANT WORK.
THE SECOND ISSUE THAT I SPOKE ON IN FEBRUARY OF 2023 WAS REGARDING THE NEED TO BUILD OUT STRONG TRANSPARENT AND SUSTAINABLE PARTNERSHIPS AND AGREEMENTS.
WHILE SOME PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE, NOT ENOUGH PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE IN TERMS OF SCOPE AND TRANSPARENCY.
THE REQUEST AT THE TIME WAS FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE A BROADER VIEW BEYOND VENDORS OR INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS, BUT TO EXTEND TO OTHER ENTITIES SUCH AS TEXAS, NORTH TEXAS WATER, SOUTH FOLK, AND NOW THE HUFFINES ETJ DEVELOPMENT.
SOME MEMBERS OF CITY LEADERSHIP MAY QUESTION AND HAVE QUESTIONED WHAT INTEREST THE CITIZENS OF PARKER HAVE WITH THE HUFFINES ETJ DEVELOPMENT.
MAINTAINING A UNIQUELY COUNTRY LIFESTYLE FOR PARKER RESIDENTS NOT ONLY INCLUDES WHAT'S INSIDE THE LEGAL BOUNDARIES OF PARKER, BUT THE NEARBY AREAS THAT DIRECTLY INFLUENCE OR IMPACT OUR LIFESTYLES.
THE CITIZENS OF PARKER, I BELIEVE, ARE OPPOSED TO THE HUFFINES ETJ DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT IS CONTRARY TO PARKER'S CULTURE AND VALUES.
WE CALL ON THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THE CITIZENS IN THEIR OPPOSITION TO THIS DEVELOPMENT HOWEVER POSSIBLE.
I'VE PROVIDED MY COMMENTS TO PATTY SO THEY CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> MY NAME IS HENRY X. I LIVE ON 3506 MCCREARY LANE IN PARKER.
I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER MY TIME SLOT AND MAYBE YIELD MY TIME AND DEFER MY OPINIONS TO EXPERTS SUCH AS BUDDY PILGRIM TO MAYBE ANALYZE WHAT THE PRESENTATION IS ALL ABOUT THAT WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT.
THAT'S IT. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER]
>> TWO MINUTES AND COUNTING BUDDY PILGRIM.
>> I'M BUDDY PILGRIM, I LIVE AT 3106 BLUFFS LANE.
I'VE DRANK TWO BOTTLES OF WATER, AND THAT'S WHY I HAD TO GO TO THE RESTAURANT.
[LAUGHTER] IN ALL SERIOUSNESS.
THIS IS THE WORST EXAMPLE OF CITY GOVERNANCE THAT I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED IN MY 69 YEARS.
IT'S SHAMEFUL THE WAY THIS HAS BEEN KEPT CONFIDENTIAL AND HIDDEN FROM OUR CITIZENS IN DETAIL AND IN PROCESS.
IF THE DEAL THAT YOU'VE CUT IS SO WONDERFUL, THEN IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO STAND THE SCRUTINY OF DAYLIGHT AND TIME.
YOU'LL SET OUT TO AVOID BOTH OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE YOUR INTENT.
WAS TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT, AND I'VE BEEN AS MUCH AS TOLD THAT BY SOME OF YOU.
THE HUFFINES WANTED THIS TO BE VOTED ON TONIGHT.
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THEY WANT IT TO BE VOTED ON BY THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY WANT THIS THING RUSHED THROUGH, AND THEY DON'T WANT ANY FURTHER CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO IT.THERE'S STILL A GREAT DEAL OF LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN SPITE OF WHAT ART RODRIGUEZ PRESENTED.
THAT IS INSUFFICIENT DETAIL FOR ANY PERSON IN THIS ROOM INCLUDING YOU, WHAT WAS PUT ON THE PRESENTATION IS INSUFFICIENT DETAIL FOR ANY PERSON TO MAKE A THOROUGH CONSIDERATION OF THIS AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO SUPPORT IT.
WE HAVE NO DETAILS ABOUT THE POLICE, FIRE AND SCHOOLS, THE THINGS SUCH AS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.
WE'VE GOT THE PRAISES ABOUT THE CANCELLATION OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH WAS A TROJAN HORSE THAT THEY PUT IN THERE TO BEGIN WITH.
THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO HAVE GETTING RID OF THAT.
WE NEED A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS FOR CONSIDERATION OF THIS, AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS CITY NEEDS TO HAVE FULL ACCESS TO A COPY OF THE FULL WRITTEN LEGAL AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE SIGNED BY THIS CITY BEFORE IT IS EVEN CONSIDERED FOR EXECUTION BY ANY OF YOU OR BY THIS CITY.
[APPLAUSE] BECAUSE OF THIS REASON, THIS HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED IN SECRET WITHOUT ANY CITIZEN INPUT OF ANY OFFICIAL KIND.
I HEAR ALL THESE TALKS ABOUT ANECDOTAL.
WELL, I TALKED TO THIS PERSON AND THIS PERSON CAME BY HERE, AND I SAW SO AND SO DOWN AT THE DENYS OR AT THE WALMART OR WHATEVER.
ANECDOTAL COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE GOOD PUBLIC POLICY.
WHAT MAKES GOOD PUBLIC POLICY IS OPEN HEARINGS WHERE YOU INVITE OPINION AND COMMENT FROM PEOPLE AFTER THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN FULL DISCLOSURE OF WHAT'S DESIRED.
THIS HAS BEEN IN SECRET WITH NO CITIZEN INPUT.
FRANKLY, WHAT'S MOST IRRITATING AND YOU KNOW THIS IS NO INPUT OR COOPERATION WHATSOEVER FROM THE INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS WHO HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE SEWER BATTLE AND THE MUD PERMIT BATTLE AND CONTINUE IN BOTH OF THOSE, IN BOTH DISTRICT COURT AND AUSTIN, WE'RE CONTINUING TO FIGHT THE SEWER AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO FIGHT THE MUD AS WELL.
AS INDIVIDUAL LITIGANTS, YOU SHOULD AT A MINIMUM, HAVE INVITED US IN AND SAID, WHAT ARE THE IMPORTANT THINGS TO YOUR GROUP THAT WE SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE CITY OF PARKER? NONE OF THAT WAS DONE.
YOU DIDN'T GIVE ANY INPUT TO US, ANY CONSIDERATION OTHER THAN THESE ANECDOTAL, WELL, I TALKED TO SO AND SO AT SUCH AND SUCH A PLACE, WHICH MEANS NOTHING WHATSOEVER.
>> IN FACT, I GUESS THAT'S MY PENALTY, BUT I'LL COME BACK UP HERE LATER. I WILL SAY THIS.
WHEN I RAISED THE ISSUE OF INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS TO LUKE, LUKE'S SPECIFIC COMMENT BACK TO ME WAS SO INSULTING.
THIS IS A VERBATIM QUOTE OF LUKE.
HE SAID, WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO OFFER? THAT IS CONTEMPT FOR US AS INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS AS CITIZENS.
I'LL BE BACK WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE YIELDS ME SOME OF THEIR TIME.
[APPLAUSE] THE SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN YOU TIME, BUDDY.
>> WELL, I'LL WAIT TILL THEY DECIDE TO LISTEN.
BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE THE FIRST TIME.
IF YOU THINK I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THIS PROCESS YOU'RE PROBABLY UNDERESTIMATING THE SITUATION, NOT ONLY FOR ME, BUT FOR EVERYBODY HERE AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE AND WAITED FOR HOURS AND ENDED UP HAVING TO LEAVE FOR SOME PARTICULAR REASON.
IT IS AN INSULT TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY, TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS OF BOTH PARKER AND MURPHY TO NOT HAVE THEIR FEELINGS, THEIR CONSIDERATIONS, THEIR THOUGHTS, THEIR CONCERNS TAKEN IN ANY LEGITIMATE MANNER IN THIS NEGOTIATION.
LUKE WAS INSULTING WHEN YOU SAID, WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO OFFER? NO, THIS ISN'T YOUR TIME TO SPEAK, LUKE THIS IS MINE.
>> I CAN CLARIFY, THERE WAS MORE CONVERSATION TO THAT, THOUGH.
YOU ADDED ONTO THAT THEY CAN'T OFFER SEWER OR WATER SERVICE.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER, THE INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS AND THE OTHER CITIES.
THEY HAVE VALUABLE INPUT ABOUT THE LIFE THEY WANT TO LIVE HERE IN PARKER AND THE SURROUNDINGS THAT NEED TO BE AROUND THEM AND THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT THIS CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVED.
THEY HAVE VALUABLE OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE APPROVED AND HOW IT SHOULD BE APPROVED.
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AND THE NEGOTIATORS ON THE NEGOTIATING TEAM, WHOEVER THEY WERE, ALL WON'T EVEN DISCLOSE TO US, WHO WAS THE NEGOTIATING TEAM.YOU KEEP EVERYTHING IN SECRET AND WON'T EVEN LET US KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHO ALL WAS INVOLVED IN THAT.
WE KNOW SOME OF YOU, BUT WE DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN WHO WAS AND WHO WASN'T.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO RUN THIS THING.
BUT YOU ALL HAVE NEGOTIATED IN FEAR.
I'M SORRY, I SHOULD ADDRESS YOU AS MAYOR IN THIS SITTING.
I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT YOU'VE HANDLED THIS THOUGH.
YOU YOURSELF HAVE USED FEAR MONGERING TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF PARKER THEY SHOULD SUPPORT THIS.
I PERSONALLY AM AWARE OF A COMMENT YOU MADE TO SOMEBODY TELLING THEM, IF YOU DON'T GET THIS APPROVED, THAT THE HUFFINES COULD GO OUT THERE TOMORROW AND PUT 500 TRAILER HOUSES ON THAT PROPERTY AND CONNECT TO A SEWER PLANT THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE A PERMIT FOR.
IT'S NOT TRUE, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE USED TO SCAREMONGER PARKER CITIZENS BECAUSE HUFFINES CAN'T GO OUT THERE TOMORROW AND DO ANYTHING.
THEY CAN'T PUT 500 TRAILER HOUSES OUT THERE TOMORROW.
THERE'S NO ROADS. THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY.
THERE IS NO SEWER PLANT, EVEN THOUGH A PERMIT WAS GRANTED, BUT THE SEWER PLANT PERMIT IS STILL BEING CONTESTED IN AUSTIN, AND THEY MAY WELL LOSE THAT.
MAYBE THEY'LL WIN, BUT THEY COULD LOSE THAT AS WELL.
BUT THE HUFFINES DIDN'T PUT $12.5 MILLION INTO A PIECE OF LAND AND ALL OF THIS LITIGATION TO BUILD A TRAILER PARK, AND WE'RE NOT DUMB ENOUGH OR FOOL ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT SCAREMONGERING TACTIC.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO USE THAT TACTIC.
I WOULD HAVE MUCH MORE RESPECT FOR YOU IF YOU WOULD ARGUE THE MERITS OF WHAT'S BEEN ARGUED INSTEAD OF USING SCAREMONGERING TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THIS.
SCAREMONGERING IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GET ANYTHING DONE IN THIS CITY OR ANYPLACE ELSE.
ART RODRIGUEZ MENTIONED THAT NEGOTIATIONS ON WHAT THE RE NOTICE WILL LOOK LIKE ARE GOING ON.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
WHO'S NEGOTIATING ON WHAT THE RE NOTICE WILL LOOK LIKE? IS HE SAYING THAT HUFFINES IS NEGOTIATING WITH THE TCEQ? OR IS HE SAYING THE CITY OF PARKER IS NEGOTIATING WITH TCEQ ON THE MUD OR THAT Y'ALL ARE NEGOTIATING WITH HUFFINES ON WHAT THE TCEQ MIGHT NEED TO DO ON RE NOTICE? THAT IS A MEANINGLESS STATEMENT AND IF THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE RE NOTICE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, THE INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS NEED TO BE A PART OF THAT.
I WANT TO TELL YOU, THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE AFTER THIS PROCESS BEING HANDLED WITH SO LITTLE DISCLOSURE AND SUCH CLANDESTINE OPERATIONS AND SO SO MANY MISLEADING STATEMENTS BEING MADE THAT WHEN NOTICE IS ISSUED ABOUT A MUD, THERE WILL BE HUNDREDS MORE PROTESTANTS THIS TIME AROUND THAN THERE WERE LAST TIME.
IT'S GOING TO GENERATE MORE RESENTMENT AND MORE HATRED FOR THIS PROJECT, MAYBE NOT FOR INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, BUT IT'S GOING TO GENERATE MORE BITTER FEELINGS, MORE RESENTMENT, MORE DISTRUST THAN WE'VE EVER HAD BEFORE, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN HANDLED WRONG BY THE HUFFINES AND WRONG BY THE CITY OF PARKER.
TRUST HAS TO BE EARNED AND LET ME TELL YOU THERE'S NOT ANY THAT'S BEEN EARNED IN THIS PROCESS, WHATSOEVER.
WHAT LITTLE BIT THERE WAS HAS BEEN DESTROYED.
I WANT TO KNOW WHO'S INVOLVED IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS WITH TCEQ ON THE RE NOTICE.
IF IT'S THE HUFFINES, ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE THEM TO THAT? ARE YOU GOING TO LET THEM HAVE EX PARTE CONVERSATIONS WITH TCEQ TO TRY TO GET WHAT THEY WANT OUT OF A RE NOTICE? IT'S JUST INSUFFICIENT DETAIL IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.
WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THINGS LIKE PERIMETER FENCING.
IT'S GOING TO BE PRIVATE PERIMETER FENCING SO THAT PEOPLE LIKE CAROLYN MOBIUS, WHO'S NOT HERE NOW, IS NOT GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THREE HOMES INSTEAD OF SEVEN, LIKE IT ORIGINALLY WAS, AND THAT WAS A RED HERRING, TOO.
THAT'S A STRAW MAN. IS IT GOING TO BE THREE HOMES THAT ARE LOOKING THROUGH HER FENCE INTO HER BACKYARD OR CAN THERE BE A TREE PERIMETER AROUND IT, A PERIMETER FENCING AROUND THE ENTIRE PLACE? Y'ALL DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT.
YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT STORM WATER RUNOFF.
NOW THE HUFFINES WILL TELL YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO ENGINEER TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE RUNOFF BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PHILIP TOLD ME.
DON SEEMED TO HAVE SHOWN SOME GENUINE CONCERN ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHEN I TALKED TO HIM.
WHEN I HAD PHILIP OUT HERE, EVERY TIME I INTRODUCED HIM TO SOMEONE WHO HAD A CONCERN ABOUT FLOODING, SUCH AS LAURA HERNANDEZ OR EMILY OR SCOTT CLARK OR ANY OF THEM, HE DISMISSED IT IS, WE GOT ENGINEERS THAT KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THAT.
PEOPLE DON'T LIKE BEING DISMISSED PEOPLE WANT TO BE VALUED.
AS MUCH AS PHILIP DISMISSED HIM, THE CITY OF PARKERS COMPLETELY DISMISSED EVERY ONE OF US BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T EVEN ASK FOR THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF INPUT THAT PHILIP HUFFINES ASKED FOR.
BELIEVE ME IF YOU REALLY DIDN'T ASK FOR IT, WE JUST PROVIDED IT TO HIM.
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WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE COULD BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ALONG THIS SO CALLED PANORAMA LANE THAT APPARENTLY, PARKERS GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO BUILD ON THE 12 ACRE STOVE PIPE SECTION.IF YOU GRANT THE PERMISSION TO BUILD PANORAMA LANE AND YOU WANT TO USE IT AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS, THAT IN ITSELF TELLS YOU THAT THE SINGLE ACCESS POINT OF A DIVIDED HIGHWAY ON HAGUE ROAD IS INSUFFICIENT BECAUSE IF IT WAS SUFFICIENT, YOU WOULDN'T NEED AN EMERGENCY ACCESS.
NOW, I TELL YOU WHAT, I DON'T CARE IF IT DOES GET DOWN TO 250 HOMES.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE AN UNSAFE DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU'RE IN THE BACK CORNER OF THAT 101 ACRES AND A FIRE SWEEPS THROUGH THERE OR A TORNADO SWEEPS THROUGH THERE AND STARTS TAKING OUT HOUSES.
YOU WOULD DO GOOD TO GET OUT OF THERE ALIVE IN THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THE HUFFINES WILL BE LONG GONE WITH THEIR $30 MILLION OF MUD MONEY, AND WE'LL BE PICKING UP THE PIECES HERE, INCLUDING THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO COULD DIE OVER THERE.
WE SHOULD NOT APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS UNSAFE TO LIVE IN IF WE HAVE ANY ABILITY WHATSOEVER TO NEGOTIATE A LOWER DENSITY.
251 HOMES IS STILL TOO MANY HOMES.
I DIDN'T HEAR YET HOW THE LOT SIZE IS.
I HEARD SAY IT WAS GOING TO BE A 70 FOOT WIDE MINIMUM WIDTH.
BUT HE DIDN'T SAY ABOUT THE DEPTH.
HE DIDN'T SAY WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS.
ARE THEY QUARTER ACRE LOTS? ARE THERE GOING TO BE SOME THAT ARE A THIRD OF AN ACRE AND SOME THAT ARE GOING TO BE A FIFTH OF AN ACRE? WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE COMPOSITION OF IT OR THE DESIGN OF IT, OR WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXTRA TREES PLANTED OR WHAT THE RETENTION POND PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE, OR IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ANY PARKS OR GREEN SPACE OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
THIS WHOLE THING IS JUST STILL, DONE IN THE CLOAK OF DARKNESS.
OBVIOUSLY, THE COMMENTS I'M MAKING TO YOU ARE VERY MUCH OFF THE CUFF BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ALL WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK OUT HERE WITH.
I AM GOING TO READ A COMMENT FROM A LOCAL CITIZEN WHO ASKED THAT THIS BE READ INTO THE RECORD.
THIS IS FROM MARK AND CINDY S-T-A-C-H-I-W. STACHIW THANK YOU HAD MISPRONOUNCED THEIR NAME.
>> THOSE WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES OF THIS MEETING.
>> WELL, I'M GOING TO READ THEM FOR THE SAKE OF THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T GOING TO GET TO READ IT YET.
BASED TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
BASED ON YOUR RECENT E MAIL, WE UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT WITH THE HUFFINES AND THE MUD PROPOSAL IS BEING CONSIDERED AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND.
WE WANT TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERN THAT A SETTLEMENT IS BEING CONSIDERED WITHOUT DISCLOSURE TO THE CITY AT LARGE IN THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THE RAMIFICATIONS.
AS YOU KNOW, PARKER FOUGHT A LONG BATTLE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS TO PRESERVE ITS COUNTRY ATMOSPHERE, ANY SETTLEMENT THAT WOULD CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY NEEDS MORE THAN JUST A SINGLE COUNCIL MEETING AND A LARGER DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES AND EFFORT ALREADY EXPENDED BY THE CITY AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO OPPOSE THE MUD.
HAVING A VOTE WITHOUT A LARGER DISCUSSION IS PARTICULARLY TROUBLESOME AS THERE IS AN ELECTION NEXT MONTH.
THE CANDIDATES ARE UNABLE TO ADDRESS THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT AS PART OF THEIR DEBATE, AND THE ELECTORS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE POSITIONS OF THE VARIOUS CANDIDATES MAY BE.
ALL OF THAT CAN BE SOLVED BY TABLING THE PROPOSAL FOR 30 DAYS TO DISTRIBUTE A COPY OF THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT, AND I WOULD SAY THAT MEANS A FULL COPY, NOT A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
ALL OF THIS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BEFORE THE ELECTION, BUT ANY VOTE ON THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT SHOULD BE AFTER THE ELECTION TO ALLOW THE CITY RESIDENTS TO ELECT MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL THAT REFLECT THEIR VIEWS ON THIS SENTIMENT.
FINALLY, IF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN AT LEAST ONE WEEK'S ADVANCE NOTICE OF WHAT THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT IS AT THAT TIME, IT WOULD BE A SERIOUS CONCERN.
OUR CITY IS NOT TOO LARGE TO MAKE SURE THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED.
ON SUCH A MOMENTOUS SETTLEMENT, AT LEAST A WEEK IN ADVANCE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR CONFIDENTIALITY DURING SETTLEMENT TALKS.
BUT ONCE A PROPOSAL IS ON THE TABLE THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR ADOPTION OF FULL AIRING WITH BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE IS APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY.
ANYTHING LESS IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT THAT PARKER HAS STRIVEN FOR OVER ITS LIFE AND SHOULD NOT BE THE STANDARD FOR HOW IT'S USED, ESPECIALLY IF THIS SETTLEMENT IS LESS THAN A COMPLETE SURRENDER BY THE HUFFINES, A DISMISSAL OF THE MUD AND A DEVELOPMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH PARKER'S LONGSTANDING LAND USE, AND THEY ASKED THAT THAT BE READ INTO THE RECORD.
IT DOES BRING ME BACK TO A POINT THAT STEWART RAISED EARLIER, BUT I WANT TO BE SURE AND EMPHASIZE IT.
THE CITY TO HAVE ALLOWED AMY TO CITE RULE 408 AS A RULE THAT PREVENTED THE CITY FROM DISCUSSING THIS IN ANY MANNER IS A MISREPRESENTATION OF THE TEXAS CIVIL RULES OF PROCEDURE 408.
I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I'VE WORKED AS AN EXPERT WITNESS FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN IN THE COURTROOM AND I'VE BEEN DEPOSED MANY TIMES AND I PARTICIPATED IN MEDIATIONS OF ALL KINDS.
RULE 408 DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM
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DISCUSSING THE TERMS OF MEDIATION BETWEEN VARIOUS PARTIES.IT MERELY PREVENTS YOU FROM USING SETTLEMENT TALKS AGAINST THE OTHER PARTY AS EVIDENCE IF YOU GO BACK TO TRIAL.
IT'S CALLED A RULE OF EVIDENCE.
IT'S NOT A RULE RELATIVE TO JUST DISCUSSION OF MEDIATION TERMS. PARKER COULD HAVE DISCUSSED ANY OF THE TERMS IT WANTED TO WITH ANY OF US AS INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS, AND THAT'S A MISUSE AND A MISQUOTATION OF THE LAW.
>> SIX MINUTES. [BACKGROUND] KEEP GOING.
I REALLY DO THINK WE'VE NEGOTIATED THIS FROM A POSITION OF WEAKNESS.
THE HUFFINES WANT THIS, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME HELP FROM THE CITY OF PARKER TO GET IT.
NOW, YEAH, THEY MIGHT CHOOSE TO EJECT FROM THE ETJ.
BUT IF THEY DO, THEY'LL HAVE OTHER ISSUES THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
THEY'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH THEIR OWN WATER, THEY'LL STILL NEED POLICE AND FIRE PROTECTION.
THEY'LL EVEN NEED SOME SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY'S REGULATIONS ON INGRESS AND EGRESS ARE FAR STRICTER THAN THE CITY OF PARKERS.
THE COUNTY REQUIRES FOR 30 HOUSES OR LESS, ONE, FOR 30-75 TWO.
FOR MORE THAN 32 UP TO 105, THAT'S 75+30.
FOR EVERY 75 OVER THAT ANOTHER POINT OF INGRESS OR EGRESS.
IF YOU WERE GOING TO PUT EVEN 251 HOUSES ON THERE, YOU CAN DIVIDE THAT OUT BY ABOUT 75, AND THAT'S GOING TO TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED SIX OR SEVEN POINTS OF ENTRY, MAYBE FIVE.
I DIDN'T DO THE MATH IN MY HEAD, BUT MORE THAN WHAT'S EVER GOING TO BE AVAILABLE THERE.
THE HUFFINES HAVE A HISTORY OF GETTING THEIR WAY WITH COLLIN COUNTY BECAUSE THEY MAKE A LOT OF POLITICAL DONATIONS TO THE COMMISSIONERS IN COLLIN COUNTY.
INSTEAD OF US JUST ACQUIESCING TO THAT, I WOULD SAY AS CITIZENS, IT'S TIME FOR US TO SPEAK UP AND TELL THE COMMISSIONERS OF COLLIN COUNTY TO QUIT GIVING THE HUFFINES THEIR WAY.
I THINK WE COULD FIGHT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS IN COLLIN COUNTY AND KEEP THEM FROM GETTING TO PUT THE KIND OF DENSITY THAT ALL AFRAID OF.
WE'RE RUNNING IN FEAR FROM A DENSITY OF 650 HOMES THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN.
BECAUSE IF THEY HAD TO PUT 650 HOMES, NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND CAN SAY THAT THAT'S A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE WITH ONE POINT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A DIVIDED ROAD OR NOT.
I DON'T CARE IF THEY BUILD OUT THAT ENTIRE DOG LEG AS AN EIGHT LANE FREEWAY, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SAFE DEVELOPMENT TO GO INTO AND OUT OF.
WE HAVE WAYS THAT WE COULD FIGHT THIS AT THE COUNTY IF THEY WERE TO GET OUT OF THE ETJ.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A TRAILER PARK ON IT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY THREATENED.
BUT WE CAN ALLOW THEM TO STILL MAKE A VERY GOOD PROFIT OFF OF THIS WITH A REDUCED DENSITY.
I KNOW DON AND PHILLIP WELL. YOU KNOW IT.
THE REASON THAT THEY CAME TO NEGOTIATE WITH YOU IS BECAUSE I WENT AND SAT DOWN FACE TO FACE WITH DON HUFFINES AND TOLD HIM HE WAS STIRRING UP A STORM OF TROUBLE OUT HERE.
THEN I BROUGHT PHILLIP OUT HERE AS WELL.
I SPENT AN HOUR AND AROUND 45 MINUTES WITH HIM, AND THEN I BROUGHT HIM OUT HERE.
I'M NOT SURE THEY CARE WHAT HAPPENS OUT HERE.
I'M PRETTY CONVINCED JOHN COX DOESN'T CARE AT ALL WHAT HAPPENS OUT HERE.
IT'S HIS LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A SEVEN-FIGURE PROFIT SHARING DEAL, MAYBE.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE REASON WE SHOULD APPROVE THIS.
WE NEED TO APPROVE WHATEVER IS RIGHT FOR THIS AREA, AND 251 HOMES PLUS FIVE IN THE 12 ACRES IS TOO MANY.
IF YOU GOT IT DOWN TO ONE THIRD OF AN ACRE OR GOT IT UP TO ONE THIRD OF AN ACRE SITE ON ABOUT 60 DEVELOPABLE ACRES, THAT WOULD BE 180 HOMES.
THAT'S ABOUT THE MAXIMUM THAT SHOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THAT'S STILL CROWDED, BUT IT'S STILL A LEVEL THEY CAN MAKE MONEY AT.
IF THEY DO SOME OTHER THINGS LIKE PUT UP PERIMETER FENCING, PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE LAURA HERNANZ'S HOUSE FROM HAVING A BRIDGE WITH FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC JUST ACROSS THE CREEK FROM HER BACKYARD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CONSIDERATION ABOUT ANY OF THEM.
THE DENSITY IS STILL TOO HIGH, THE HUFFINES STILL WANT IT, AND THERE'S STILL ROOM FOR YOU TO PUSH THEM.
THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T WANT THIS DEAL DONE AFTER I'M ON CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE I WILL ASK YOU TO PUSH THEM FOR MORE, BECAUSE WE CAN PUSH THEM FOR MORE AND THEY CAN STILL MAKE A TON OF MONEY ON THIS IF WE ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A MUD.
BECAUSE THE MUD IS HOW THEY DOUBLE THEIR MONEY BECAUSE THEY WILL SET THE PRICE OF
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THE LOTS AT WHATEVER THE MARKET VALUE FOR A RESIDENTIAL LOT IS.MARKET PRICE FOR A RESIDENTIAL LOT, JUST LIKE OVER IN WHITESTONE INCLUDES THE COST OF PUTTING IN THE STREETS.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE A MUD IN WHITESTONE.
HOW DID THEY PAY FOR THOSE STREETS IN WHITESTONE? WELL, THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THE LOTS, PAID FOR THE STREETS AND THE PRICE OF THE LOT.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO BUY THE LOTS ON THE HUFFINES PROPERTY WILL END UP PAYING FOR THE COST OF THE STREETS IN THERE, IT'S THE MARKET VALUE OF IT.
THE HUFFINES WILL DOUBLE THEIR MONEY BECAUSE THEY WILL ALSO SELL TAX FREE MUNICIPAL BONDS AND WALK AWAY WITH TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR BUILDING THOSE STREETS AND PUTTING IN THE WATER LINES AND THE STREET LIGHTS, AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NORMALLY ROLLED INTO THE PRICE OF A RESIDENTIAL LOT.
WE CAN HELP THEM MAKE ALL OF THOSE TENS OF MILLIONS THAT AREN'T EVEN FOR HUFFINES COMMUNITIES AS A COMPANY TO GO EXPAND THEIR COMPANY AND EMPLOY MORE PEOPLE.
100% OF THIS MONEY GOES BACK INTO TWO TRUST FUNDS.
THE LOVEJOY TRUST FUND, WHAT A WONDERFUL NAME AND THE PHILLIP HUFFINES TRUST FUND, IRREVOCABLE TRUST FUND, EACH OF THOSE BEING FOR THEIR KIDS.
THIS IS MONEY THAT WILL PROFIT THE BANK ACCOUNTS OF TRUST FUND BABIES.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK INTO HUFFINES COMMUNITIES TO GROW THEIR BUSINESS.
BUT THEY'VE ALSO GOT A REPUTATION FOR DOING THIS KIND OF THING TOO, WORKING COVERTLY WITH CITY COUNCILS BEHIND THE SCENES AND GETTING THEIR WAY.
WE NEED TO WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH THEM TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY OF PARKER THAN IS THIS. THANK YOU.
>> HI, MAYOR. HI, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I HAVE LIVED AT 2709 DUBLIN ROAD FOR THE PAST 22 YEARS, AND I HAVE SERVED ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR OVER 10 YEARS.
WHAT THE HUFFINES WANT TO DO ON THE ETJ LAND IS DISRUPTIVE AND DISTURBING.
WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED BETWEEN WHAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE US AND THE HUFFINES IS ALSO DISTURBING BECAUSE OF THE SECRECY AND BACKDOOR NEGOTIATIONS THAT HAVE GONE ON.
THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE HUFFINES HAVE NOT INVOLVED ANY INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS OF PARKER.
WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY OF THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THIS PROCESS SINCE IT DOESN'T INVOLVE ANY PERSONNEL OR PRIVACY ISSUES.
I KNOW WHAT DRIVES THE HUFFINES, IT'S GREED, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S DRIVING THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO ARRIVE AT THIS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
I HOPE THAT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND FOLLOW THE PROPER LAWS AND PROCEDURES AND NOT TRY TO CIRCUMVENT THE P&Z AND THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT YOU WERE CONTEMPLATING AFTER THE VOTE THAT YOU WERE CONTEMPLATING TAKING TONIGHT? WHEN WILL THE PUBLIC HAVE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE INPUT AND TO GET EVERYBODY'S BY IN.
WHAT HAPPENS ON THIS LAND AFFECTS ALL OF US? YOU MUST CONSIDER THE RESIDENTS OPINIONS AND VIEWS AND INVOLVE THEM IN THE ULTIMATE DECISION.
THE CITIZENS OF PARKER RESERVE THEIR RIGHT TO DECLARE THIS AGREEMENT NULL AND VOID IF YOU ALL ENTER INTO IT, AND WE WON'T HESITATE TO CHALLENGE IT IN COURT. THAT'S MINE.
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M DR. DWAYNE HENSHAW 5208 STATE LANE,
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AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 30 YEARS WITH MY WIFE, KIMBERLY, BACK HERE.FIRST OF ALL, DOES SAVE THE GRASSLANDS BOTHER ANYBODY? [LAUGHTER] OR.
WHERE THE NAME OF HADES, DID THAT COME FROM AND IT'S JUST ABOUT AS BAD AS I'VE EVER EVER SEEN.
I THINK THE TRANSPARENCY ISSUE, IF THIS HAD BEEN VOTED ON TONIGHT, I THINK THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A VERY BAD THING FOR EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC AND PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY.
I THINK THAT IF YOU HAVE LIVED HERE LIKE WE HAVE AND BEEN VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY HAS SPACE, AND THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE THERE.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC AND THE STATE OF OUR ROADS, A LOT OF THEM AREN'T VERY GOOD.
THAT'S A GOOD THING AND A BAD THING ALONG WITH DUBLIN BECAUSE IT DOES SLOW SOME PEOPLE DOWN, ALTHOUGH THEY'VE TAKEN OUT MAILBOXES AND FENCES, [LAUGHTER] I THINK THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT HAS A RECORD GETTING INTO THE GUINNESS BOOK FOR THE NUMBER OF MAILBOXES THEY'VE REPLACED.
[LAUGHTER] HOW THESE PEOPLE DO THAT AND SURVIVE WELL, CHIEF PRICE KNOWS AS WELL AS BEING A FAMILY DOCTOR THAT DRUNKS CAN GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE BETTER THINK ABOUT GUYS IS IF THIS THING GOES THROUGH, LIKE IT IS WITH SUCH A BIG DENSITY, AND BY THE WAY THERE'S A LOT OF THE LAND THAT'S IN FLOODPLAIN.
THAT GOT BROUGHT UP BRIEFLY AND THEN NOBODY'S TALKED ABOUT THAT.
YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE 100 AND SOMETHING ACRES HERE.
YOU'VE GOT A I THINK IT WAS 60 ACRES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF THIS GOES THROUGH, WE HAVE OPENED THE DOOR FOR THE GUY THAT OWNED SOUTHWORK OVER THERE.
IT'S SCARY THAT THAT GUY GOT IT TO BEGIN WITH.
THERE WAS A DEAL THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT BETTER, BUT THIS GUY THAT'S GOT IT NOW, IN MY OPINION, IS NOT VERY GOOD.
I THINK BUDDY BROUGHT UP THE PUFFINESS AND IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEIR DEVELOPMENTS AND SEE WHAT THESE GUYS ARE MAKING ON THESE DEVELOPMENTS FOR THE MUD, IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND.
I'M SURE WOULD LIKE TO BE IN THAT POSITION TO MAKE THAT MONEY, AND IT NEVER WAS BEING A DOCTOR. THAT'S FOR DANGER.
BUT ANYWAY, I'M PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN OF PARKER, AND I'M PROUD OF MY NEIGHBORS AND I'M PROUD OF PEOPLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL FROM THE STANDPOINT OF YOU SERVE FOR NO MONEY, AND THAT'S A DARK ROAD DOWN THERE WITH NO ALL OF YOU. [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE]
>> OH, I'M SORRY READ A LITTLE HARD TO HEAR.
>> THAT'S NOT WHAT MY HUSBAND SAYS.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT.
I LIVE AT 3405 BLUFF LANE WITH MY WIFE OF 52 YEARS, AND WE HAVE LIVED IN PARKER GOING ON 26 YEARS.
I AM AN INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANT IN THIS MATTER AND HAVE PERSONALLY OFFENDED THAT WE WERE EXCLUDED IN THE NEGOTIATIONS.
THE REASONABLE OF THAT IS QUESTIONABLE BUT I DON'T BELIEVE PEOPLE DID IT DISHONESTLY, I BELIEVE THEY DID IT CALLOUSLY.
THAT REFLECTS ON THE NEGOTIATING TEAM ON BOTH THE HUFFINENS SIDE AND THE CITY OF PARKER.
WHY DID I BECOME AN INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANT? BECAUSE WE WERE CUT OUT OF THE NEGOTIATIONS FROM THE VERY FIRST MEDIATION TWO PLUS YEARS AGO.
MANY OF THESE PEOPLE WERE IN THAT MEDIATION AND WE SPENT OUR TIME, HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF TIME.
ABOUT $100,000 IN INDIVIDUAL PARTICIPANTS LEGAL FEES IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE CITY HAS SPENT AND THE CITY OF MURPHY HAS SPENT.
WE ASK AS INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS, ABOUT 10 DAYS OR SO AGO.
WE WOULD LIKE PARKER TO CEASE AND DESIST IN THE CONFIDENTIAL CLOSED DOOR DISCUSSIONS.
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WE SUGGESTED THAT HUFFINENS NEEDS TO BE ENGAGED WITH US.WE ASKED THAT MESSAGE BE CARRIED TO HUFFINENS, WHETHER IT WAS OR WAS NOT. I DON'T KNOW.
WE ASKED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL NOT VOTE ON THIS MATTER BEFORE THE ELECTIONS.
BY THE WAY, I GAVE THIS IN WRITING TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE IN THAT MEETING TO THE MAY 4TH ELECTIONS AND NOT HAVE A COUNCIL VOTE BEFORE THE MAY 4TH ELECTIONS.
TO HAVE A REASONABLE COMMENT PERIOD FROM THE CITIZENRY OF PARKER AND NO VOTE UNTIL AFTER THE MUD SEVEN APPLICATION HAS BEEN RE NOTICED, SO WE KNOW WHAT THE HECK THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
THOSE WERE REASONABLE REQUESTS.
THEY FELL ON DEAF EARS AND MANY OF US ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATION FROM THIS COUNSEL SAID WE WERE GOING TO BE CUT OUT OF THE NEGOTIATIONS AGAIN.
HADN'T THE PROTESTANTS BEEN ACTIVE I THINK WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN CUT OUT OF IT.
I HATE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK MANY OF YOU, I HOPE ARE FRIENDS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT A GOOD WAY TO RUN A CITY AND I'M DISAPPOINTED ON THAT.
ABOVE BELOW THESE POINTS, AND EVERYBODY'S MADE THESE, I'M GOING TO GO OVER THEM QUICKLY.
BUT THE QUALITY OF MAXWELL CREEK WAS A HUGE ISSUE THAT DROVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO FIGHTING THIS.
HOPEFULLY THAT HAS BEEN IMPROVED BY NOT HAVING A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEES OF WHERE THESE RUNOFF AND RETENTION PONDS ARE GOING TO FALL.
I'VE HAD MY BACKYARD AND LEE AND YOUR FORMER NEIGHBOR, OUR BACKYARDS HAVE BEEN FLOODED FOUR OR FIVE TIMES.
THANK TO MARGARET TURNER'S FORMER HUSBAND WHO BUILT THE RESERVES AND DIDN'T GET AN APPROVAL OF THEIR SEWER LINES RIGHT INTO COTTONWOOD CREEK.
[NOISE] CAN I HAVE SOMEBODY'S TIME I'M NOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[BACKGROUND]WE HAVE ASKED FOR RECOGNITION AND DETAILS ON SOME FORM OF SHIELDING THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM VISIBILITY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMMEDIATELY NEIGHBORING IT.
TREES, BERMS. THERE'S NOT BROOM IN THERE TO PUT A PARK IN THERE, BUT WHY DON'T YOU PUT IT FORCE A TRAIL AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF IT WITH TREES THAT GIVE THEM THE RESIDENTS SOME FORM OF RECREATION AND CREATES IF YOU WOULD A VISIBLE BARRIER BETWEEN THE OTHER HOUSES.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MORE, BUT I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE CIVIL AND NOT SAY THEM.
[LAUGHTER] I'M HAPPY THAT THERE IS A DELAY.
SOME OF THESE OTHER INFORMATION CAN BE ACCUMULATED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE]
>> DEBRA, WHO LIVES ON MUSTANG RIDGE.
I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SURE OF YOUR LAST NAME.
>> WE'LL TRY AGAIN. LINDA BRASWELL.
>> OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. NATHAN SHE.
>> I AM NATHAN SHE. I LIVE IN 3106 DUBLIN ROAD.
BEEN A RESIDENT FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.
WHEN THEY SPOKE ABOUT THE NUMBER OF MAILBOXES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE, [LAUGHTER] I HOLD THE RECORD FOR SEVEN MAIL BOXES THAT HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED ON DUBLIN ROAD.
OBVIOUSLY. WE MOVED TO THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL LAND, THE QUIETNESS AND DUBLIN ROAD.
PEOPLE DRIVE DOWN DUBLIN ROAD ON A DAILY BASIS JUST TO GET AWAY FROM THE CITY.
EVEN IF THEY DON'T LIVE ON DUBLIN ROAD, THEY DRIVE DOWN DUBLIN ROAD, JUST TO GET THAT FEELING OF I'M OUT IN THE COUNTRY.
WHEN I HEARD ABOUT ALL OF THESE HOMES GOING UP, THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MIND WAS THIS ISN'T PARKER ANYMORE.
PARKER WAS MEANT TO BE A TWO ACRE MINIMUM, WHICH WE SPOKE ABOUT.
WE'VE ALLOWED FOR ONE ACRE AND NOW EVEN BASED ON THE 250 HOMES.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT I ACTUALLY HAD THAT PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT 20 YEARS AGO. WE SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT.
BUT A BUNCH OF IT WAS FLOODPLAIN.
IF YOU TAKE OUT THE FLOODPLAIN AND YOU PUT 250 HOMES IN THAT AREA,
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NOW, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY TINY LOTS.EVEN WITH THE 70 FOOT WIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF HOMES IN A SMALL AREA.
I CAN TELL YOU THE RUNOFF IN THOSE IN THAT AREA IS GOING TO BE CATASTROPHIC TO EVERYBODY THAT GOES DOWNHILL FROM THERE.
DUBLIN ROAD ON RIGHT BY BETSY WHERE THE BRIDGE IS HAS BEEN WASHED OUT COMPLETELY FROM JUST A REGULAR RAIN AND HAD TO BE SHUT DOWN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE NOBODY COULD GET BACK AND FORTH THROUGH DUBLIN ROAD.
WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT ALL INTO CONSIDERATION.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT HOW MANY HOMES ARE THERE, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE RUNOFF.
IT'S ABOUT EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY VALUES.
WE'VE HAD FLOODS ON JUST REGULAR RAIN DAYS.
I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT PROPERTY, AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ME, BUT IT'S ABOUT EVERY CITIZEN HERE IN PARKER THAT WANTS THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY MOVED OUT HERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ITERATIONS OF THIS PROPOSAL HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU GUYS.
I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE FACT THAT THIS WAS DONE IN SUCH SECRECY.
WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS FOR THE LAST TWO PLUS YEARS AND LITERALLY TO FIND OUT FROM A FACEBOOK POST THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A VOTE TONIGHT WAS VERY DISHEARTENING.
I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OF PARKER.
I KNOW MANY OF YOU GUYS AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WANT THE BEST FOR PARKER, SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE CITY OF PARKER AND NOT THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT THAT THE HUFFINES IS GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS. THANK YOU.
GIVE MY TIME. JAMIE TURNIN WHERE ARE YOU, JAMIE?
>> PEGGY TREGIL , SCOTT CLARK.
>> COUNSEL, HOW ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
WE REALLY DO. WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE BEST INTENTIONS.
LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION LACKING HAS BEEN A CAUSE FOR CONCERN, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE WORKING HARD BEHIND THE SCENES, AND THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION TO GO ABOUT THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO DISSEMINATE. WE UNDERSTAND.
I LIVE AT 6,000 GREGORY AND WITH MY WIFE, AND MY THREE YOUNG CHILDREN.
THE CREEK ACTUALLY SPLITS OUR PROPERTY OF 2.5 ACRES AND SPLITS RIGHT THROUGH OUR PROPERTY.
PRIOR TO PETALS INVOLVEMENT, WE HAD MAJOR FLOODING ISSUES, AND IT DID TAKE US FOUR YEARS.
BUT WE WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE THAT WITH A PLAN, A THOUGHTFUL LONG TERM PLAN TO REBUILD THAT BRIDGE AND THAT ROAD FOR BETTER FLOW BETTER FLOW RATE FOR THE RAIN.
IT HAS MITIGATED ANY RISK TO MY HOME, WHICH HAD FLOODED THREE TIMES IN THE PAST, PRIOR TO ME BUYING IT NINE YEARS AGO.
IT'S THE ONLY HOME MY FAMILY HAS EVER KNOWN.
WE LOVE IT. WE WANT TO STAY HERE.
OUR MAJOR CONCERN IS THE FLOOD RISK, DUE TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE, I WAS A NAVAL OFFICER, I WENT TO THE UNITED STATES NAVAL ACADEMY.
I STUDIED IN HYDRO ENGINEERING AND ONE OF THE BEST SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY FOR THAT TYPE OF ENGINEERING.
I UNDERSTAND HOW THE FLOW RATE WORKS.
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I KNOW THAT THE FLOW RATE DOWN CREEK AFFECTS UP CREEK AND IT BUILDS UP LIKE A DAM.THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIX AND MITIGATE.
THAT'S MY MAJOR CONCERN AND FEMA SAYS THAT IS 50 GALLONS PER PERSON PER DAY.
THAT WILL ENTER INTO THE FLOOD ZONE.
WHAT THAT CAN CAUSE IS A BACKUP THAT SPREADS OUT WIDE, AND FORMER COUNCILMAN, HALLOW CAMP, WHO I'M GOOD FRIENDS WITH, WAS A 93 YEAR OLD OR VETERAN.
HIS HOUSE HAD TO BE ACTUALLY LIFTED OFF THE GROUND, SPENT $80,000 TO LIFT OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE IT WOULD SPREAD OUT WIDE.
THAT'S THE MAJOR CONCERN FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALONG THE CREEK, NOT JUST IN PARKER, BUT FAR DOWN THE CREEK AND UP THE CREEK.
IT PULLS UP LUCKILY IN CERTAIN AREAS, BUT THAT DOES NOT MITIGATE A RAINSTORM THAT HAS SEVEN INCHES IN 2.5 THIS.
IT JUST DOESN'T. I'VE SPENT MANY NIGHTS WITH WATER 30 FEET FROM MY HOUSE, PUTTING OUT SANDBAGS.
I HAVEN'T HAD TO SINCE WE MITIGATED THAT RISK, AND I FEAR THAT THE RISK WILL INCREASE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT THE PROPER CARE AND CONSIDERATION BY ENGINEERS AND FMA. THANK YOU.
>> ANGELIC LONKAR I DON'T SEE HER. WELL. CODY SHOATUK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I APOLOGIZE. IT LOOKS LIKE S-H-O-A-T-U-K.
>> IS THERE A CODY IN THE HOUSE?
>> CODY SHOATUK AND HE WENT HOME LIKE THREE HOURS AGO.
I LIVE AT 5004 DUBLIN CREEK LANE.
I'M ONE OF THE 12 THAT HAD BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND HAVE SPENT LITERALLY HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF HOURS READING LEGAL DOCUMENTS AND BRIEFS.
THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY COMING FROM THIS CITY IS ABSOLUTELY APPALLING.
WE WERE PROTESTANTS WHERE THE MEDIATOR INSTRUCTED ALL OF THOSE THAT HAD BEEN PART OF THE CASE TO BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE AND SHARE INFORMATION BACK AND FORTH.
HUFFINES HAD EVEN SAID WE SHOULD BE PART OF THIS.
WE FEEL LIKE THAT THIS CITY HAS NOT DONE A GOOD JOB OF TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATING WITH US.
WE HAVE TRIED 12 WAYS FROM SUNDAY TO OPEN COMMUNICATIONS WITH THIS CITY.
WE HAVE MUCH BETTER REPRESENTATION FROM THE CITY OF MURPHY AS A PARKER RESIDENT THAN FROM THIS COUNCIL.
THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH MISINFORMATION THAT HAS GONE ON OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHAT'S TRUE AND WHAT'S NOT.
WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT IF HUFFINES IS GENUINELY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS REVISED PLAN, HAVE THEM SUBMIT A NEW MUD APPLICATION, HAVE THEM PUT IT ON PUBLIC RECORD THAT THEY'RE REVISING THEIR ESTIMATE AND HAVE THEM DO IT FIRST.
THAT WAY, WE'LL KNOW THEY'RE SERIOUS AND NOT JUST BLOWING SMOKE LIKE THEY HAVE FOR THE LAST 2.5 YEARS.
WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE FLOODING.
FLOODING WAS NOT ADDRESSED AT ALL IN THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
FEMA IS COMING OUT WITH A NEW MAP ON MAY 21.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT WILL BE UPDATING ALL THE FLOOD ISSUES, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING HOMES.
I WOULD ASK, WE DON'T WANT TO FLOOD OUR NEIGHBORS JUST BECAUSE HUFFINES GETS THEIR WAY.
LET'S TAKE SOME TIME AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T FLOOD OUT OUR NEIGHBORS AND MAKE THE FLOODING PROBLEMS WORSE.
THERE'S NO MENTION OF IT COMING ACROSS CROSS CREEK TO DUBLIN ROAD.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HUFFINES HAS TALKED ABOUT PRIVATELY OF COMING ACROSS CROSS CREEK RANCH.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEIR ACCESS POINT IS ONLY THROUGH THIS FOUR LANE OUT ONTO HOAG ROAD, THAT THAT'S IT.
BECAUSE I THINK THEY STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH GETTING PEOPLE OUT IN AN EMERGENCY.
AND SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT PLANNING ON
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A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO DUMP SOME OF THE TRAFFIC OUT ONTO DUBLIN ROAD. THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU, TIM. LINDA LUKE.
>> I'M GOING TO YIELD MY TIME TO STEWART.
>> AS EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU LOVE TO HEAR FROM ATTORNEYS.
THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES TO HEAR US TALK IS US.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE FREE LEGAL ADVICE HERE.
YOU ALL EACH ONE OF YOU NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE YOU'VE HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT FLOODING.
PART OF AFFECTING PEOPLE'S PROPERTY MEANS IF THEY CAN EACH BRING A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY, IF IT AFFECTS THEIR PROPERTY FOR FLOODING AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST FORESEEABLE.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THAT DOES REQUIRE IT DOES REQUIRE YOU DO A TAKINGS IMPACT ANALYSIS.
PUT IT ONLINE OR PUT IT OUT THERE AND GIVE 30 DAYS NOTICE.
IF FEMA COMING OUT WITH A PLAN ON MAY 21, I SUGGEST YOU TABLE EVERYTHING UNTIL FEMA COMES OUT WITH THAT PLAN.
THEN YOU DO YOUR TAKINGS IMPACT ANALYSIS. THEN YOU PUT IT OUT THERE.
THERE'S NO RUSH TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR TCQ PROCESS.
BUT THERE IS NO RUSH FOR THIS.
THE LAST THING I WOULD TELL YOU IS THAT THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE MY VOICE HEARD MORE THAN JUST AT THIS PODIUM.
I WANT TO HEARD AT THE VOTERS BOX.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, AND I'M TALKING AS A CITIZEN OF PARKER.
I ALSO WANT TO WHAT THE DETAILS OF THE COST SHARING ANALYSIS ARE THAT THE TEAM PUT UP ON THE WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT IS.
TELL US ABOUT THE COST SHARING OF NDWWD FOR THE WATER AND FOR THE SEWER.
THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT HOW YOUR MOM GOT MY PERFECT SILHOUETTE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I ALSO AM PROUD TO BE A PARKER CITIZEN HAVING MOVED HERE FOUR YEARS AGO AND I LIVE AT 4001 ROLLING NOS DRIVE ON 1.7 ACRES, AND I MOVED FROM HIGH DENSITY IN DALLAS, AND MAN, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK.
I'M ALSO A CANDIDATE FOR CITY COUNCIL, AND I ABSOLUTELY NOW KNOW NOT WHAT TO DO WHEN I GET A SEAT.
THE FACT THAT WE ARE HAVING TO SPEAK AT YOU AND NOT WITH YOU IS A PROBLEM.
THE FACT THAT WE ONLY GET THREE MINUTES APIECE TO EVEN DO THAT IS A PROBLEM.
YOU HARDLY EVER HAVE CITIZENS ATTEND THESE MEETINGS, LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE STAYED FOR HOURS AFTER YOU SO INCONVENIENTLY WENT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE.
WE'RE NOT HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR YOUR DECISION MAKING.
IT'S A SHOW OF COLLECTIVE ANGST FOR YOUR BRAZEN ACTIVE OVERREACHING BOUNDARIES THAT THE STATE LAW HAS SET FOR YOUR POSITIONS.
YOU ARE UP THERE BECAUSE WE PUT YOU UP THERE AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE FORGETTING THAT.
YOU'RE ALSO FOLLOWING BAD LEGAL ADVICE.
AMY, I CALLED YOU OUT ON THAT.
IT'S A TEXAS RULES OF EVIDENCE 408 AND YOU CAN HAVE THAT SMUG LOOK ALL YOU WANT, BUT I'LL TELL YOU AS A FELLOW LAWYER, YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL FOR GRIEVANCE, YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL FOR SANCTIONING AND YOU NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFUL HOW YOU ADVISE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING, AND THAT'S ME.
ALSO, YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD BUDDY SPEAK. I AGREE.
YOU GUYS NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WITH THE FINES.
THIS CONTRACT BETTER NOT BE THE FINAL DRAFT, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
ALSO, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO AMY FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE I'M STUCK ON IT.
OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND MAYOR HAVE EXCLUDED CITY COUNCIL FROM NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE HUFFINES.
ACCORDING TO OUR CITY RULES, THIS CITY ATTORNEY HAS TO ANSWER TO THE CITY COUNCIL, NOT THE MAYOR AND THAT NEEDS TO STOP.
THESE CLOSED DOORS PROCEEDINGS HAVE TO STOP.
IF YOU DON'T THINK WE'RE ON YOU, WE'RE ON YOU.
WE'RE HERE TO CRASH THE PARTY, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS ART'S SCALED DOWN SLIDE SHOW BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS A LITTLE DISINGENUOUS, AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS WHOLE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW.
I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE A TOWN HALL BEFORE YOU ENTER INTO THIS SIGNED CONTRACT WITH MORE OF AN IN DEPTH Q&A SESSION WITH ART HIMSELF.
SUPER UNIMPRESSED THAT THAT DUDE LEFT AND ISN'T EVEN STILL HERE AND IF YOU ARE, WHERE ARE YOU? WE HAVE TO HAVE A MORE IN DEPTH DESCRIPTION OF THE OVERALL CONTRACT THAN A MORE BULLET POINTED SCALE DOWN SLIDE SHOW.
HOPEFULLY, DURING THAT, WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE FOLLOWING.
WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WE DON'T HAVE A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
GUYS, ARE USED THE HUFFINES WAY OF CALCULATING DENSITY AT 2.4 HOMES PER GROSS ACRE.
THAT MASKS THE SMALL SIZE OF THE LOTS. IT'S MISLEADING.
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MOST PEOPLE THINK OF LOT SIZES PER BUILDABLE ACRE.THOSE ARE LESS THAN 1/4 OF ACRE LOTS.
IT'S LESS 0.25. WE'RE UPSET THAT WE DON'T HAVE OUR TWO ACRES ANYMORE? ONE ACRES? COME ON.
FLOODING. HAVEN'T ADDRESSED IT, TAKING A PRIVATE LAND, ANYBODY HAVE TIME THEY'D LIKE TO GIVE ME. THANK YOU.
FLOODING, TAKING A PRIVATE LAND FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS.
TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION, NOT EVEN ADDRESSED.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BRIDGE.
WHO'S HOUSING IS GOING TO BE THE MOST DEFINITELY IMPACTED ON THIS? LAURA HERNANDEZ, CAN I GET AN AMEN? SEWER OR SEPTIC? DID THE FIVE LOTS ON THE 12 ACRES THAT'S ON PARKER? WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO OUR WATER BILL? ANYBODY LIKE THEIR WATER BILL? IT'S ASTRONOMICAL.
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THAT? THESE ARE SO MANY ANSWERS THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT GIVING AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR.
WHAT WILL PARKER CITIZENS BE SADDLED WITH FINANCIALLY? HOW WILL THIS AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND OUR PROPERTY TAXES? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH CONGESTION? WE MOVED OUT HERE SO THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SPEND 15 MINUTES JUST GETTING TO ONE OTHER ROAD AND ANOTHER 20, GETTING TO 75.
I SAT IN A MEETING WITH YOU GUYS TEN DAYS AGO AND WAS FLABBERGASTED AND I KNOW NOW WHAT IT WAS.
YOU COULDN'T ANSWER EVERYTHING WE ASKED YOU TO TALK TO US ABOUT, LISTEN TO US ABOUT, MAKE A PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT YOU VERY CLEARLY HAD ALREADY DONE, BUT FOR THAT TRO THAT STUART MATTHEWS FILED THIS MORNING AND THAT JUDGE GEORGE FLINT SIGNED.
I THINK THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE TABLING THE VOTE ALSO BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY HAVE A COUPLE MEMBERS THAT ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND HAVE THEIR HEAD STRAIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO VOTE NO ANYWAY.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU, THE DISINGENUOUSNESS TOWARDS THIS CITY AND THE CITIZENS IN IT AND JUST THE BLATANT HIDING OF FACTS AND THE WAY THAT YOU WORD THINGS.
THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE SITTING HERE AND THE ONLY REASON THEY'RE HERE IS NOT BECAUSE YOU COUCHED IT IN AN AGENDA COME AND HEAR ABOUT THE HUFFINES.
THERE'S SIGNS EVERYWHERE, LEE.
THEY ALL SAY HUFFINES STOP THE STINK, EVERYWHERE.
EVERYONE NOW KNOWS ABOUT THIS AS THE HUFFINES.
YOU SAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A VOTE.
POSSIBLY FROM AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
YOU TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE IN DEPTH EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE ISSUE.
WE HAVE CONCERNS THAT ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED.
PLEASE DO NOT ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT THE WAY THAT THAT SCALED DOWN SLIDE SHOW.
I GET MORE OUT OF A CLE FROM ATTORNEYS.
MY GOD, I HOPE THAT GUY DOESN'T HOLD THOSE.
I LEARNED NOTHING OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT PLEASE DON'T ENTER INTO THAT CONTRACT.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S SO MUCH THAT YOU'VE HEARD.
TAKE THOSE, YOU'RE WRITING THEM.
I SEE YOU, EVERYBODY BUT JIM REID WRITING THIS STUFF DOWN.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
ONE OF YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS SAT UP THERE AT MEET THE CANDIDATES NIGHT AND ACTUALLY SAID, I THINK TRANSPARENCY IN CITY COUNCIL IS IMPORTANT, AND THAT IS NOT AT ALL WHAT'S BEEN GIVEN.
>> SHE WENT HOME THREE HOURS AGO.
[NOISE] SHE GAVE ME THAT TIME, I'D LIKE TO GIVE IT TO BUDDY.
>> STACY PATRICK 4900 CHESHIRE LANE.
I HAVE LIVED IN PARKER GOING ON 18 YEARS, AND MY HUSBAND AND I JUST BUILT A NEW HOME IN WHITESTONE.
WE MOVED BECAUSE WE WANTED MORE LAND.
WE'RE OVER THE MOON, I'M LIVING IN PARKER, EXCEPT FOR THIS WHOLE HUFFINES THING. ONE ACRE LOTS.
GREAT. GIVES PEOPLE ELBOW ROOM.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES WAY BACK WHEN PLE WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT WITH THE ONE ACRE LOTS.
BUT TO BUILD SO MANY SMALLER HOMES ON EVEN SMALLER LOTS, IT MAKES PARKER UNRECOGNIZABLE AND NOT A PLEASANT CITY PROBABLY TO LIVE IN,
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ESPECIALLY OVER ON THAT END.WHAT ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORS, THE MURPHY RESIDENTS? THINK ABOUT THEM.
THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS TO US, AND THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE OTHER THAN THE CITIZENS HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE GRASS ROOTS OPERATION.
THEY ARE MORE TRANSPARENT WITH THEIR RESIDENTS THAN OUR COUNCIL IS WITH US, AND THOSE SHENANIGANS WITH THE SECRETIVE DEAL SETTLEMENT, WHATEVER THAT WAS ALL ABOUT BECAUSE HUFFINES WANTED IT THAT WAY.
WHERE DO YOUR LOYALTIES LAY? IN THE RESIDENTS WHO PUT YOU ALL IN THOSE SEATS OR WITH HUFFINES GROUP? DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
PLEASE CONSIDER DELAYING THIS FOREVER AND A DAY WOULD BE REALLY NICE BUT AT LEAST 30 TO 60 DAYS TO REALLY SEE WHAT THIS IMPACT IS GOING TO BE.
I KNOW SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE, THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE ONE FOR MAXWELL CREEK.
THERE'S A LOT OF CITIZENS ALONG THE CREEK, GREGORY LANE THAT ARE OVERLY IMPACTED WITH FLOODING.
THERE JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A REASON TO HURRY INTO THIS.
IT CAN CONTINUE TO GO ON UNTIL YOU FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT THING, AND THE RIGHT THING IS ONE ACRE LOT MINIMUM WOULD BE REALLY GOOD. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] CARL ARNOLD.
>> OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK. LAURA HERNANDEZ.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS NOT VOTING TONIGHT AND JUST TAKING ANOTHER BEAT TO HEAR US OUT. IS THIS NOT A MICROPHONE?
>> IS THIS THE RIGHT MICROPHONE?
>> THIS ONE. [LAUGHTER] THAT ONE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS SPEAKING INTO.
I APPRECIATE YOU DELAYING FOR A MOMENT.
I FEEL A LITTLE BETRAYED BY THE WAY THINGS HAVE HAPPENED HERE.
I KNOW THAT I REACHED OUT TO YOU AND TOLD YOU, I'D GONE TO ALL THE WORK OF CALLING FMA A MILLION TIMES TO GET INFORMATION ON THE NEW FLOOD STUDY.
I TOLD YOU IT WAS COMING OUT IN MAY 21, I LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT.
I GUESS I WAS REALLY SURPRISED WHEN I HEARD THAT THERE MIGHT BE A VOTE TONIGHT BECAUSE I WAS THINKING, SURELY, I FEEL LIKE WE CONNECTED ABOUT FLOODING AND BEING SCARED OF OUR HOMES FLOODING AND ALL OF THAT.
WHY WOULDN'T WE WAIT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE FLOOD STUDY SAYS? IF FMA HAS GONE TO THIS WORK TO CREATE A NEW FLOOD STUDY AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO RELEASE.
I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT AND HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND HEAR WHAT THE FLOOD IMPACT IS GOING TO BE AND WHAT HUFFINES PLAN IS FOR DRAINAGE.
FOR THIS BRIDGE AND WHAT'S TO SAY.
THIS BRIDGE IS NOT GOING TO GIVE WAY, AND I AM PERSONALLY CONCERNED WITH THE CONGESTION IN MY BACKYARD.
IT IS LIKE WE ARE TUCKED BACK IN THE CUSHION.
SORRY FOR CRYING ALL THE TIME.
IT HAS MADE THIS PERFECT PLACE FOR OUR FAMILY, JUST IMAGINING WHAT IS GOING NEXT DOOR. IT RUINS IT.
NOBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO BUY OUR HOUSE, SO WE CAN'T SELL IT.
WE DON'T HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GO BUY SOMETHING ELSE. WE'RE A LARGE FAMILY.
THAT'S WHY WE MOVED HERE SO WE'D HAVE THIS SPACE AND IT'S BEING ROBBED FROM US.
I JUST ASK YOU ALL TO LISTEN TO US AND HEAR WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE, AND REALLY THINK ABOUT THE FLOODING, THE FLOODING.
WE CAN SAY THAT ENOUGH THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED AND THE RUNOFF.
I'M SCARED. THOSE FIVE HOUSES THAT ARE TAKING THE PLACE OF THOSE POOLS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
I KNOW THE PLANS KEEP CHANGING EVERY TWO MINUTES, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE HERE ANYMORE, BUT IF THOSE PONDS ARE GOING AWAY THEN, WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH DRAINAGE? WE NEED TO BE DISCUSSING THAT.
BEFORE ANYBODY VOTES ON ANYTHING WE MUST TALK ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S MY TIME. I YIELD, WHATEVER ELSE TO BUDDY.
>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] WILLIAM TAYLOR.
>> I'M GOING TO DEFER TO BUDDY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I COULD SAY ANYTHING RIGHT NOW AFTER WHAT I'VE HEARD THAT WOULD BE EITHER [INAUDIBLE] HE COULD SAY OR POLITE.
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>> JOHN BARBARA. GOING ONCE. LYNN OSCO.
MY FAMILY WITH THREE KIDS AND MOM LIVE AT 5700 AND 5704 GREGORY LANE.
MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BOTH PHYSICIANS AND HAVE VERY HIGH STRESS JOBS AND WE'RE VERY PURPOSEFUL PLANNING FOR YEARS TO MOVE TO PARKER.
WE BOUGHT 18 ACRES AND WANT TO LIVE IN AGRICULTURAL LIFE.
WE THOUGHT WE WERE PRETTY SECURE IN THAT.
THESE LAST, NOW ALMOST THREE YEARS HAVE BEEN A PROFOUND IMPACT FOR ME IN PARTICULAR.
THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANTED AND NOT WHAT I ENVISIONED GETTING 18 ACRES IN PARKER.
WE DIRECTLY BOUGHT THIS 12 ACRE LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE 12 ACRE LOT FROM KATHY HARVEY, SO IT VERY MUCH DIRECTLY AFFECTS ME.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY ALREADY SPENT $15,000 IN TREES TO PUT ALONG OUR LINE THAT DIRECTS THAT LOT.
WE HAVE PLANT A WALL TO ALL OUT OF OUR EXPENSE.
I DON'T NORMALLY CRY LIKE [NOISE] TONIGHT.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT NOBODY IN THIS ROOM TRUST THE HUFFINES.
IT TOOK US HOW MANY YEARS JUST TO FIND OUT IT WAS THE FREAKIN HUFFINES? WHY ARE SECRET DEALS BEING MADE WITH THE LEAST TRUSTWORTHY PEOPLE IN TEXAS? I CAN'T FATHOM THAT.
[APPLAUSE] THE THING THAT I THINK LAURA, EMILY, KATHY, ALL OF US DID WAS TRUST YOU GUYS.
I HAVE E-MAILS TO YOU, MARY PATEL FROM 2021, SHOWING MY DOOR TO DOOR PETITION THAT I DID WITH LAURA OF EVERY SINGLE GREGORY LANE RESIDENT THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT.
THE EXACT TWO MAIN THINGS FROM MY PETITION THAT I SENT YOU IN 2021, I HAVE YOUR E-MAIL RESPONSE TO ME, "WHERE GREGORY LANE IS A RESIDENTIAL HOME WITH LAND TO ALLOW FOR AGRICULTURE AND LIVESTOCK, WE BELIEVE SUCH A FACILITY AND HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT WOULD IMMEDIATELY CHANGE OUR WAY OF LIFE, WHICH INVOLVES PRODUCTION OF HAY AND REARING LIVESTOCK.
THE ZONING RESTRICTIONS IN PARK OF TEXAS, DEMAND FOR ONE OR TWO ACRE LOTS, ALL OF WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL.
THIS HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, AGAIN, IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO THAT, IS NOT IMMEDIATE TO THAT".
YOUR E-MAIL BACK TO ME IN WRITING, FROM NOW TWO AND A HALF YEARS PRIOR WAS, "THANK YOU, AND WE'RE ON THIS AND WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GIVE UP GREGORY LANE".
FIVE LOTS OR WHAT WAS PONDS OR WE NEVER KNOW BECAUSE HUFFINES IS SUCH A MOVING TARGET.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO ANY REALLY NEGOTIATIONS WITH THESE PEOPLE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GOT TO TRY, BUT WE DO NEED TO KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT FIVE LOTS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, THOSE FIVE HOUSES ARE GOING TO CONNECT TO THE 250, AND HOW AM I GOING TO HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE WITH THREE LITTLE KIDS GOING DRIVING BY MY DIRECT PROPERTY? I DON'T SEE HOW THE FIVE LOTS OR AN EMERGENCY ACCESS OR ANY OF THIS CAN WORK, AND THAT'S NOT KEEPING GREGORY.
>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] HEATHER. IS THERE A HEATHER? WE'LL TRY THAT AGAIN IN A MINUTE.
I GUESS THE ROBERTS GAVE UP. STEWART.
>> DID HE LEAVE? HE HAS SPOKEN BEFORE.
>> I'M AUBREY MORENO. I LIVE AT 3901 SYCAMORE LANE.
I AM A FAIRLY NEW RESIDENT TO PARKER AND ALSO RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL.
I COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR BRINGING THIS PROPOSAL TO US TONIGHT AND LETTING US VIEW IT.
I DEAL WITH HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES FOR A LIVING.
I KNOW THAT PEOPLE LIKE THE HUFFINES AND INSURANCE COMPANIES AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH AND IT IS ALWAYS A PROCESS.
SOMETIMES YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE
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AND THEN THEY SLAM THE DOOR RIGHT IN YOUR FACE.I'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK TONIGHT, AND I AGREE, WHEN I MOVED TO PARKER, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MY WAY AND FIGURE OUT ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON, DUBLIN HAS WATER ISSUES.
YES. IT RAINS IN TEXAS, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S SO DRY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY WATER.
WE HAVE ALL THESE ISSUES, AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
I THINK WE CAN ALL USE IMPROVEMENT.
WE CAN ALL COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH OUR FAMILIES, OUR SPOUSES, OUR CITY PEOPLE.
I KNOW I'VE COME TO SEVERAL COUNCIL MEETINGS, TOWN HALLS, AND I AM SURPRISED TO SEE ALL THESE LOVELY FACES HERE TONIGHT.
I WISH I WOULD HAVE SEEN THEM ALL BEFORE TONIGHT.
BUT HOPEFULLY, MAYBE WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE.
MAYBE MARKETING TO OUR CITIZENS A LITTLE BETTER OR DISPLAYING THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FABULOUS NEW WEBSITE THAT'S COMING OUT THAT I THINK WILL HELP MAYBE WITH THIS ISSUE OF NOT COMMUNICATING WELL WITH OTHERS.
I HOPE IN THE FUTURE, IF AND WHEN I'M ELECTED TO CITY COUNCIL, THAT WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER.
WE GOT TO GO OUT AND TALK. RUNNING FOR COUNCIL, ALL THESE PEOPLE, THEY GET OUT AND TALK TO ONE ANOTHER, MAKES FOR ALL THESE EVENTS, BUT THAT ALSO STIRS UP BUSINESS.
I COMMEND YOU GUYS. I THINK THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IS A STEP FORWARD, AND I THINK THAT TONIGHT, ALL THESE CITIZENS BEING HERE IS IMPROVEMENT OVER COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. THANK YOU.
WILLIAM TAYLOR, ONE LAST TIME. WILLIAM TAYLOR.
>> I TOLD YOU I WAS GIVING MY TIME TO CLAY.
THEN THE LAST THREE I HAVE ARE ALL GIVING THEIR TIME TO JOHN CHISHOLM.
YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A GREEN CARD.
I DON'T HAVE A GREEN CARD. WELL, COME ON.
>> GOOD EVENING, LEE AND CITY COUNCIL.
I'VE BEEN IN PARKER FOR IN EXCESS OF 25 YEARS.
I HAVE BUILT MANY HOMES HERE IN PARKER.
I HAVE FIVE GROWN FAMILIES ALL FROM ME AND MY WIFE THAT LIVE WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF ME.
I DON'T THINK YOU COULD GET ANY BETTER THAN THAT.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN GET THAT ANYWHERE BUT HERE IN PARKER.
I'M PROUD OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE TIME WE'VE SPENT TOGETHER.
BUT I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE HUFFINES DEAL.
HONESTLY, I SPOKE TO SEVERAL OF YOU ALREADY ABOUT THIS HUFFINES DEAL.
I SAID, WELL, WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON? WHAT HAVE THEY OFFERED? WE DON'T KNOW. THEY HAVEN'T TOLD US.
WELL, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE? WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE UNLESS I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO SAY.
BUT I WAS CEO OF A COMPANY THAT WAS PART OF UNITED TECHNOLOGIES FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS.
I DEALT WITH A LOT OF BIG COMPANIES, OUR COMPANY DID.
BIG COMPANIES LIKE THE HUFFINES, THEY LIKE TO COME AND THEY LIKE TO BULLY YOU.
A LONG TIME AGO, THE MAN WHO TRAINED ME TAUGHT ME, IF THEY COME TO YOU AND THEY GOT THIS WONDERFUL DEAL, THEY SAY YOU GOT TO VOTE ON IT NOW, JUST SAY NO.
ALWAYS VOTE NO BECAUSE THEY WILL COME BACK BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY.
WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE SOME FEAR OUR CITY IS CHANGING AND I HAVE SOME FEAR POWERFUL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE HUFFINES WILL MAKE THE PEOPLE I KNOW AND LOVE FEAR THE HUFFINES MORE THAN THEY LOVE OUR CITY.
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I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T ANSWER BEFORE DIDN'T LEAVE AND COME BACK.>> HEATHER POWERY. JOHN BARBER.
CODY SHORTER AND MARTY ANDERSON.
>> I'LL PROBABLY NOT TRY NOT TO TAKE ALL OF IT, BUT HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE, LUKE?
>> TWELVE MINUTES. WELL, I CAN SPEAK THAT LONG IF I NEED TO.
LET ME THINK ABOUT HOW I WANT TO WRAP THIS UP.
FIRST OF ALL, MAYBE A COUPLE OF DETAILS.
ONE, WE ALL DESERVE TO SEE THE PLAN, 100%.
WE NEED TO SEE THE LAYOUT THAT THEY'VE PROPOSED, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT.
POWERPOINT PRESENTATION IS NOT ENOUGH, BUT EVEN THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THE COMPLETE LAYOUT OF EVERYTHING THEY WANT, INCLUDING WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO APPROVE WITH RESPECT TO THE 12 ACRES AND PANORAMA DRIVE.
THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR GIVING IT. APPARENTLY, YOU ALL HAVE IT.
YOU'LL NEED TO PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE OR MAKE IT AVAILABLE THROUGH SOME KIND OF EMAIL DOWNLOAD.
PRECEDENT. I'M CONCERNED THAT WHATEVER IS AGREED TO HERE IS GOING TO SET PRECEDENT FOR MURDOD, WHO OWNS SOUTH FORK RANCH.
NOW, MURDOD IS A COMPANY THAT IS GOOD FRIENDS WITH THE HUFFINES.
THEY DO A LOT OF WORK ON HUFFINES DEVELOPMENTS.
I HAVE BY PRETTY GOOD AUTHORITY THAT MURDOD'S BEEN JUST SITTING BACK, WAITING FOR THE HUFFINES TO HAMMER THEIR DEAL THROUGH HERE SO THAT THEY CAN SAY, I WANT THAT MUCH OR BETTER ON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON SOUTH FORK.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND SOUTH FORK RANCH IS FULLY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF PARKER AS OPPOSED TO THIS BEING AN ETJ.
BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, I KNOW WHAT THE CITY OF PARKER AGREED TO ALLOW THE HUFFINES TO DO ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME AND HOW DARE YOU TRY TO RESTRICT ME ON WHAT I CAN DO ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD JUST BECAUSE IT'S TECHNICALLY INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS WHEN IT'S THE CITY WHOSE LIMITS ARE AROUND ME THAT GRANTED THOSE RIGHTS TO HUFFINES.
I THINK WE ARE IN REAL DANGER OF THIS SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR THE SOUTH FORK DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY THAT COULD BE REALLY BAD FOR CHANGING THE NATURE OF THIS CITY.
I THINK THAT'S JUST ONE MORE REASON TO NEGOTIATE TOUGHER TERMS WITH HUFFINES THAN YOU HAVE SO FAR.
NOT QUITTING. THERE'S A MAN NAMED DON CLOUD.
HE LIVES OVER BY CAROLYN MOBIUS IN MURPHY.
HE LIVES DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO MAXWELL CREEK AND HE WOULD BE DRAMATICALLY IMPACTED REALLY BY ANYTHING, FLOODWATERS AS WELL AS THE SEWER PLANT IF IT WERE BUILT.
DON'S AN ATTORNEY, BUT HE'S HAD A STROKE.
SO HE DOESN'T GET OUT A WHOLE LOT, BUT I TELL YOU, HE'S SHARP AS ATTACK.
HE JUST DOESN'T MOVE AROUND THAT FAST ANYMORE.
DON HAS SAID, THIS IS A FIGHT HE AIN'T GIVING UP.
DON IS PROBABLY NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT FEELS LIKE THAT.
NOW, WE'LL REACH A POINT WHERE I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE SETTLEMENT, MAYBE, AND I'LL SAY, OKAY, I CAN AGREE TO THAT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET, AND MOST OF US THAT HAVE SPOKEN HERE TONIGHT HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT WE CALL A REASONABLE SETTLEMENT THAT WE'RE READY TO ENDORSE.
DON'T BUY INTO THE HUFFINES LIE THAT YOU GOT TO APPROVE THIS RIGHT AWAY.
WE GOT TO GET IT DONE FAST SO WE CAN GET MOVING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET MOVING FAST BECAUSE THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF OPPOSITION THAT'S GOING TO STAND IN THEIR WAY AND GOING TO KEEP STANDING THERE HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES.
WE CAN FIGHT THIS THING SIGNIFICANTLY.
THE MORE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WHEN THEY START TO PETITION FOR THIS MUD AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN THIS FIGHT THAN THERE HAVE BEEN SO FAR, AND IT'S GOING TO BE DRAWN OUT EVEN LONGER.
NOW, MAYOR PETE, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TOLD ME IN THE VERY BEGINNING, WHEN YOU AND I FIRST STARTED DISCUSSING THIS THING IS THAT YOU HIRED THE RIGHT GUY WITH ART RODRIGUEZ BECAUSE ART RODRIGUEZ WAS LOOKING AT THE LONG GAME, AND HIS STRATEGY WAS TO WIN IN DISTRICT COURT AND APPEAL AND THAT HE DIDN'T GET CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING WITH TCEQ OR LOSING IN SOA COURT.
WE KNOW THAT TCEQ AND THE SOA COURT IS A CORRUPT ORGANIZATION AND IT'S OWNED BY THE DEVELOPERS.
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BUT HIS STRATEGY WAS, YOU GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THEN YOU APPEAL IT TO DISTRICT COURT.YOU GET IN FRONT OF A JUDGE THAT GOES BY REGULAR LAW INSTEAD OF ADMINISTRATIVE LAW, AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAN WIN.
YOU SAID, THAT WAS ART'S LONG GAME.
IN ORDER TO WIN IN THE LONG GAME, IF YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY AND I'M NOT AN APPELLATE ATTORNEY, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY AT ALL.
YOU'RE MARRIED TO AN ATTORNEY. BUT I KNOW THIS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO WIN THE APPELLATE LONG GAME, YOU HAVE TO START LAYING DOWN YOUR MARKERS ALL ALONG THE WAY SO THAT YOU'VE GOT POINTS TO APPEAL WHEN YOU TAKE IT FOR APPELLATE COURT.
ART DID A LITTLE OF NONE OF THAT.
I'M LITERALLY THE ONLY PERSON, IN THESE ENTIRE CASES, EITHER THE MUD OR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PERMIT THAT FILED A MOTION TO COMPEL AGAINST NATALIE SCOTT AND THE HUFFINES TO RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, TECHNICALLY, AS IT'S CALLED, TO COMPEL THEM TO PRODUCE ITEMS IN DISCOVERY THAT NATALIE SCOTT JUST THUMBED OR NOSE AT.
THEY DIDN'T RESPOND HARDLY AT ALL TO PARKER'S DISCOVERY THAT WAS GIVEN.
THE CITY OF MURPHY DIDN'T FILE ONE EITHER, ALTHOUGH I'VE GOT FAR MORE PRAISES FOR STEVE DICKMAN IN THE CITY OF MURPHY BECAUSE HE WILL RETURN MY CALL AND DISCUSS STRATEGY WITH ME AND DISCUSS WHAT TO DO AT THE NEXT HEARING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I DON'T THINK ART'S PLAYING THE LONG GAME, NEVER WAS.
I DON'T BELIEVE HE WAS, AND IT'S PLAYED OUT NOW BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE WHO DID THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ON SEE, LET'S JUST SETTLE THIS THING.
BUT HE DOESN'T LIVE HERE IN PARKER, EITHER. HE LIVES IN AUSTIN.
THIS IS JUST AN HOURLY JOB FOR HIM AND ATTORNEYS LIKE HIM CAN COLLECT PRETTY GOOD HOURLY RATES.
WE DIDN'T DO THE LONG GAME WITH HIM, BUT IT'S NOT OVER YET.
BUT DON CLOUD STILL GOING TO FIGHT, OTHERS ARE GOING TO FIGHT SO THERE'S NO RUSH TO GET ANY OF THIS APPROVED ANYWHERE OVERNIGHT.
THIS WHOLE PROCESS STARTED IN SECRECY AND SURPRISINGLY, DON HUFFINE'S SON ADMITTED THAT TO ME WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING OVER IN MURPHY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, BECAUSE HE SAID AT THE END OF THE MEETING, HE CAME OVER TO ME, AND HE SAID, NOW, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN TRYING TO BE DECEPTIVE.
THIS IS NOT VERBATIM, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY CLOSE TO WHAT HE SAID, AND IT'S THE CONTEXT AND CHARACTERIZED ACCURATELY TO WHAT HE SAID.
AND HE SAID THIS. IT'S NOT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO BE DECEPTIVE TO THE CITIZENS OF PARKER.
HE SAID THE TRUTH IS DON, HIS DAD, STARTED.
HE SAID, "THIS ALL STARTED IN 2019.
WHEN MY DAD WAS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR.
IT'S NOT THAT HE WAS TRYING TO DECEIVE THE CITIZENS OF PARKER.
HE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE NEGATIVE PUBLICITY ABOUT THIS WHILE HE WAS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR.
AND I SAID, THAT'S THE VERY DEFINITION OF DECEPTION.
SO HE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST DECEIVE THE CITIZENS OF PARKER.
HE WANTED TO DECEIVE THE CITIZENS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
HE DECEIVED ME BECAUSE I TOLD YOU EARLIER, I TRIED TO HELP HIM GET ELECTED.
I TRIED TO HELP HIM BEAT CRAIG GAVITT BECAUSE I THOUGHT HE WAS A GOOD CONSERVATIVE GUY.
HE IS CONSERVATIVE, BUT THEY'RE LIBERTARIANS, WHICH LEADS ME TO THE NEXT POINT.
THIS BEGAN IN SECRECY WITH THEM TRYING TO CONCEAL WHO THEY WERE, WHICH IS WHY THEY USED THE NAME, RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, WHICH WAS OWNED BY TEXAS PRAIRIE LAND, WHICH IS A DELAWARE LLC.
THE ONLY REASON YOU FORM A DELAWARE LLC IS SO NOBODY CAN FIND OUT WHO'S BEHIND THE DELAWARE LLC.
THOUGH WE DID EVENTUALLY FIND THAT.
BUT WHEN I ASKED HIM EVEN ABOUT RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS, DON LAUGHED ABOUT IT.
WHEN I WAS SITTING IN HIS OFFICE ON DOUGLAS AVENUE, AND I SAID, HOW IN THE WORLD DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT NAME AND WHY? DON SAID, ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT OF IT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS CUTE.
I SAID, I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.
THE PEOPLE OF PARKER, TEXAS DON'T THINK IT'S CUTE.
BUT THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH CONTEMPT THEY HAVE FOR PEOPLE.
I UNDERSTAND FORMING SPECIAL PURPOSE LLCS TO DO LAND ACQUISITION OR ALL KINDS OF OTHER BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS.
BUT YOU DON'T FORM ONE CALLED RESTORE THE GRASSLANDS OWNED BY TEXAS PRAIRIE LAND IF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS ACTUALLY DESTROY THE GRASSLANDS AND TURN IT INTO ASPHALT AND CONCRETE WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY PLANNED ON DOING.
THIS HAS BEEN DECEPTIVE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING BEFORE THEY EVER CAME OUT HERE, AND THE DECEPTION HAS CONTINUED ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THEM PUTTING, WHETHER IT WAS THEIR REQUIREMENT OR YOUR REQUIREMENT OR AMY'S RECOMMENDATION, THIS AGREEMENT IN PLACE TO KEEP ALL OF YOUR TALK SECRET AND NOT INVOLVE ANYBODY ELSE.
DECEPTION IS NOT A FORMULA FOR SUCCESS, IN MY OPINION.
NOW, THE OTHER THING I'LL MENTIONED IS WHEN I SAT IN DON'S OFFICE AND TALKED TO HIM, HIS FIRST COMMENT WHEN WE FIRST BEGAN OUR DISCUSSIONS WAS, WELL, BUDDY, I'M A PROPERTY RIGHTS GUY.
THEY'RE LIBERTARIAN CONSERVATIVES, AND HE SAID, I'M A PROPERTY RIGHTS GUY.
WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN DO WITH MY PROPERTY? NOW, THAT GIVES YOU SOME INSIGHT INTO THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
THAT'S WHY EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WE NEED THIS IN,
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WHATEVER AGREEMENT IS MADE WITH THEM, BETTER BE ROCK SOLID IN WRITING WITH NO WIGGLE ROOM, WHATSOEVER, RUNNING WITH THE LAND FOREVER.PARKER SHOULD OWN A 10% UNDIVIDED STAKE IN ALL THE COMMON AREA OF THAT SO THAT NOBODY CAN EVER CHANGE THE DEED RESTRICTIONS OR ANY OF THE OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO HE SAID, WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN DO WITH MY PROPERTY? AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, DON, HAVING THE RIGHT TO DO SOMETHING AND IT BEING THE RIGHT THING TO DO ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DO BETWEEN PARKER AND MURPHY, TEXAS IS NOT THE RIGHT THING.
DROP THE MIC. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT I HAD ON HERE TO SAY ANYWAY, AND THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD PLACE TO END IT OTHER THAN DON STILL WANTS TO EITHER BE GOVERNOR OR HE WANTS TO BE CORNIN TO BECOME THE NEXT SENATOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS WHEN CORNIN RETIRES.
I THINK THE SMART THING FOR HIM TO DO WOULD BE TO LEARN HOW TO COOPERATE WITH THE PEOPLE OF PARKER TO PUT SOMETHING IN OUT HERE THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR OUR AREA, AND WHAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED AND Y'ALL WERE TENTATIVELY AGREEING TO IN GETTING TO THIS IS NO ACCIDENT THAT ART RODRIGUEZ PUT THIS UP HERE TONIGHT.
THIS WASN'T A PROPOSAL THAT WAS ONLY BY THE HUFFINES AND Y'ALL HATED IT, BECAUSE ALL WOULDN'T HAVE EVER PUT IT UP THERE.
IF THERE WASN'T SOMEBODY ON THE NEGOTIATING TEAM THAT SAID, YEAH, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD STARTING POINT OR YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.
SO IT'S TIME FOR THE HUFFINES TO COME AROUND A LITTLE MORE TO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AND MAYBE HE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR OR SENATOR OR GO DO SOMETHING ELSE. THANK YOU.
>> IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE AT ALL THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> AND WE WILL MOVE ON ONTO OUR AGENDA TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
[1. PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION (P&R) SPECIAL MEETING – WEDNESDAY, APRIL 24, 2024, 5 PM @ DACOSTA RESIDENCE, 6003 SOUTHRIDGE PKWY, PARKER, TX]
I'LL NOTE THAT THIS SATURDAY THERE IS A DRUG DROP OFF AT THE POLICE STATION WHERE YOU CAN JUST DRIVE UP TO THE POLICE STATION, AN OFFICER WILL BE STANDING THERE, AND YOU CAN DROP OFF YOUR UNUSED OR EXPIRED PRESCRIPTIONS.YOU'RE ALSO TAKING SHARPIES, THEY'RE ALSO TAKING NEEDLES.
JUST DRIVE UP DROP OFF IN BETWEEN 10:00 AND 2:00 PM.
I'LL NOTE IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD HAVE, BUT EARLY VOTING HAS STARTED, AND IT'S RIGHT HERE AND EARLY VOTING WILL GO THROUGH APRIL 30TH.
IT'S 8:00-5:00 ALL OF THIS WEEK NEXT WEEK IS 7:00-7:00.
THEN JUST TO MAKE IT MORE CONFUSING ON MAY 28TH, WE WILL BE HAVING VOTING FOR THE RUNOFF OF THE PRIMARIES, THE STATE OFFICES HERE.
THAT VOTING WILL START ON MAY 20TH AND GO TO ELECTION DAY, WHICH IS MAY 28TH AND I'M JUST AMAZED WE HAVE SO MANY ELECTIONS SO CLOSE TOGETHER.
THEN THEY WONDER WHY PEOPLE DON'T COME AND VOTE, YOU JUST GET TIRED.
THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 7TH AT 7:00 PM IS CANCELED AND IT'S RESCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, MAY 14TH.
THIS IS AFTER THE ELECTION AND THAT WE CANNOT HOLD A COUNCIL MEETING UNTIL WE CAN CANVASS THE VOTES.
THE COUNTY DOES THAT AND SO THEY NEED X AMOUNT OF TIME, GENERALLY, IT TAKES THEM ABOUT A WEEK TO GET THE INFORMATION TO US.
PARKS AND RECREATIONS HAS A MEETING ON MAY 8TH AT 5:00 PM IN THIS ROOM.
THERE WILL BE A CONCERT IN THE PRESERVE ON SATURDAY,
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MAY 11TH FROM 6:00-8:00 PM.THIS IS PARKS AND RECS IDEA, AND THEY WANT TO SEE HOW PEOPLE LIKE IT OR DON'T LIKE IT IN THE CITY OF PARKER.
>> THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS OF INTEREST.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
WE WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.THERE ARE THREE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR MARCH 26TH, 2024, WHICH WAS A CITY COUNCIL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WORKSHOP.
APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR APRIL 2ND, 2024, CITY COUNCIL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WORKSHOP AND APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 2ND, 2024 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED.
>> I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER NO, AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER FE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
NEXT, WE WILL GO TO THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 5,
[5. CONSIDERATION AND ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION CONCERNING RESOLUTION NO. 2024-787 ADOPTING THE FY 2023-2024 - FY 28-29 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN ATTACHED HERETO AS EXHIBIT "A".]
CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION CONCERNING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-787, ADOPTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2028, 2029 FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.COUNSEL IN YOUR PARKER, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE CAMP IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-787, ADOPTING THE FISCAL YEAR '23, '24 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR '28, '29 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS ATTACHED IN EXHIBIT A WITH THE AMENDMENT WITH A CHANGE FOR PAGES 26 AND 27 OF THE DOCUMENT.
THEIR PAGES 49 AND 50 IN THE AGENDA PACKET TO ADDRESS COMMENTS TO UPDATE THOSE NUMBER SCHEDULES.
>> IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THAT ALL OF THE UPDATES FROM THE RECENT TOWN HALL AND THE COMMENTS WE'RE GETTING FROM CITIZENS ON THE WEBSITE ARE GOING TO BE UPDATED INTO THIS PLAN.
IT IS A FLUID LIVING PLAN THAT WILL BE UPDATED AS NECESSARY. IS THAT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE ONLY REASON I SUGGESTED AMENDING THIS DOCUMENT IS BECAUSE THESE ARE SPECIFIC NUMBERS THAT JUST WEREN'T UPDATED IN THE PREVIOUS SECTION.
THE OTHER COMMENTS ARE ALL VERY GOOD, AND WE DO WANT TO INCORPORATE THEM IN FUTURE VERSIONS, BUT APPROVING THE EXHIBIT A AS IS WITH THOSE TWO CHANGES, I THINK WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT.
>> THANK YOU. NOW FOR THE DISCUSSION, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER THERE.
AMANDA, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? EXCUSE ME, COUNSEL MEMBER NO, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD?
>> NO, MADAM MAYOR. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO JUST SHARE MY APPRECIATION FOR THE COLLABORATION THAT WAS PUT FORTH INTO CREATING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND ALSO, I'D LIKE TO I VOTE MY APPRECIATION TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AT THE TOWN HALL AND ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL
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AND THE CITY STAFF AND ALL WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS COLLABORATIVE PROJECT.JUST WANTED TO JUST THANK EVERYONE AND JUST NOTE THAT WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO SEEK ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, IF I CAN MAKE A COMMENT DISCUSSION ALSO.
I THINK IT WAS A GREAT COLLABORATIVE EVENT, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A DOCUMENT.
HE NEEDED TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND I THINK IT WAS A REALLY GOOD COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, AND I APPRECIATE THE WHAT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
>> IF YOU WOULD, ANYTHING BEFORE WE VOTE BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN MAKE YOUR COMMENTS AFTER WE HAVE A VOTE ON SOME.
>> NO MORE COMMENTS, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU.
>> YEAH I HAVE A COMMENT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT DOCUMENT, IT'S A GREAT STEP FORWARD.
WE WANTED TO GO OUT AND REALLY PUSH THE TRANSPARENCY ITSELF OF WHAT WE ALL HAD IN FRONT OF US, NOT JUST FACILITIES, BUT ROADS AND VEHICLES AND EVERYTHING.
EVERYONE COULD GET A GOOD VIEW OF WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF US FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT SIX YEARS.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN AN AMENDMENT, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE AMENDMENT, SO HARD TO IDENTIFY WHAT IT IS.
MY CONCERNS ARE TWO FOLD ON THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.
ONE IS THAT THERE IS ERRORS IN IT, AT LEAST FROM A MATHEMATICAL AND NUMBERS ERROR PERSPECTIVE.
I HATE TO PUT OUT A DOCUMENT WITHOUT ANY REVIEW.
NOT KNOWING THAT, IN FACT, THE ERRORS HAVE BEEN FIXED OR UNDERSTANDING MAYBE WHERE SOME OF THE NUMBERS CAME FROM.
ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THE TRANSPARENCY WAS TO TRY TO IDENTIFY NOT ONLY OF ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD IN FRONT OF US, BUT THE TOTAL IMPACT OF ALL THOSE PROJECTS.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR COUNSEL, BUT I WOULD GUESS THAT COUNSEL WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT TOTAL IMPACT IS, AND I THINK THE AVERAGE CITIZEN WOULD HAVE NO EARTHLY IDEA.
I DON'T THINK THAT REALLY COMES UP WITH A SUMMARY THAT REALLY IDENTIFIES WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, WHAT THE TOTAL COSTS ARE, WHERE THE GAPS ARE, AND HOW MUCH WE REALLY NEED TO TRY TO GAIN AND FUNDING IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE ALL THIS AND WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT AND IT WILL GO OUT THERE AND CONTINUE TO BE CHANGED.
BUT I THINK IF IT'S THE INITIAL DOCUMENT, IT NEEDS TO GO OUT THERE WITH SOME TYPE OF SUMMARY AND SOME TYPE OF CLEAR TRANSPARENT VIEW OF WHAT THE TOTAL IS.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS?
>> CAN I SPEAK TO MR. KERCHO'S COMMENTS?
>> GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH.
>> WITH RESPECT TO A SUMMARY OF THE NUMBERS, I INTENDED TO HAVE COPIES FOR ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE.
BUT WE GOT SIDETRACKED WITH A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, IS THE PROJECTED CASH NEEDS.
THAT SECTION DOES PRESENT WHAT THOSE CASH NEEDS ARE FOR THE FUNDS.
ONE OF THE PIECES THAT WAS ADDED FOR PROPRIETARY FUNDS, IT SHOWS THE TOTAL CUMULATIVE NUMBER, SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO PHYSICALLY ADD THOSE NUMBERS.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THOSE CASH NEEDS ARE IDENTIFIED THERE AS AGAIN, A GOOD STARTING POINT.
YES, CAN IT BE IMPROVED? I THINK FOR THE FUTURE, IT COULD DEFINITELY BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR TO HELP IDENTIFY THOSE NUMBERS AT THIS POINT, WHERE THE GOAL IS TO GET THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENTS.
AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE PEOPLE COMING TO THE TOWN HALL.
FROM WHAT I SAW THERE WAS SOME GOOD COMMENTS THERE.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE ON THIS.
BUT I THINK UNTIL WE GET SOMETHING OUT THERE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE SPINNING OUR WHEELS.
I FEEL THIS GIVES THE CITY SOMETHING TO GO WITH WITH RESPECT TO CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS AND IDENTIFIES THE ONES THAT ARE MISSING.
>> GLANCING AT THE NUMBERS, IF I ADDED UP TO TWO NUMBERS, IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $14 MILLION.
I BELIEVE THAT THE NUMBER IS PROBABLY CLOSER IN THE RANGE OF 30, AT LEAST IN MY OWN OPINION.
FROM A FACT THAT PUTTING OUT A DOCUMENT THAT SAYS, 14, WHEN I TRULY BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS CLOSER TO 30 IS SO FAR FROM BEING TRANSPARENT.
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I WOULD SAY, NO, I WOULD NOT PUT THIS DOCUMENT OUT YET.>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FECHT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-787.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-787, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THE ONE AGAINST IS COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO.
FOR PEOPLE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
>> WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE FILE [INAUDIBLE]?
I PUT IT IN THE NEW SECTION ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
>> THANK YOU ALL. ITEM NUMBER 6,
[6. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-785 AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A STANDARD AGREEMENT FOR ENGINEERING RELATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH THE CITY’S ENGINEER, BIRKHOFF, HENDRICKS & CARTER, LLP, RELATED TO THE WATER LINE RELOCATION AND IMPROVEMENTS ON DUBLIN ROAD, AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF ANY NECESSARY AND RELATED DOCUMENTS. [POSTPONED 2024 0319]]
CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-785, AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A STANDARD AGREEMENT FOR ENGINEERING RELATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH THE CITY'S ENGINEER, BIRKHOFF, HENDRIX AND CARTER LLP, RELATED TO THE WATER LINE RELOCATION AND IMPROVEMENTS ON DUBLIN ROAD, AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION AND ANY NECESSARY AND RELATED DOCUMENTS.>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-785.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOE AND THE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-785.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO.
>> IN THE PACKET AT THE BEGINNING, NOT NECESSARILY IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF, BUT IT SAYS THAT CITY COUNCIL IS LOOKING TO AT LEAST COMPLETE PHASE 1.
PHASE 1, AS I READ THE DOCUMENT IS BASICALLY BETWEEN PARKER ROAD AND DUBLIN CREEK.
BUT AS WE BASICALLY GO INTO OUR CIP, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING FIRST WAS IN MY OPINION OR BELIEF, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY, WAS SOUTH DUBLIN.
A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED AS TO WHY IT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT PHASE 1 IS LISTED AS PHASE 1 WITHIN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.
PHASE 2 IS ACTUALLY THEN THE SOUTH PORTION.
>> WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO.
>> WELL, PAGE 56 WAS THE SUMMARY AND THEN [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT'S AN OLD DOCUMENT. I APOLOGIZE.
THE PHASES WERE MIXED UP ON THAT ONE.
PHASE 1 WOULD BE BETSY TO THE SOUTH CITY LIMITS.
PHASE 2 WOULD BE PARKER ROAD TO BASICALLY BETSY, DUBLIN CREEK.
THEN PHASE 3 WOULD BE THE BLUFFS TO DUBLIN CONNECTOR.
THOSE TWO SOMEHOW JUST GOT FLIPPED AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GOT FLIPPED BECAUSE THAT'S THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT.
BUT PHASE 1 IS WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
BEFORE THE MAYOR EXECUTES THIS, I CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CORRECTED ON THAT DOCUMENT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOE AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-785.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
>> I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT OF DISCUSSION.
WELL, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE MOTION WILL BE WITH THE AMENDED PHASES, CORRECT?
>> YES. I CAN REVISE THE MOTION THAT WILL INCLUDE THE AMENDED PHASES OF THE PROJECT.
>> ARE YOU ACCEPTING THAT AS A SECOND? NOW, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
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NO. MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO. THANK Y'ALL.[7. CONSIDERATION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NO. 2024-788 ESTABLISHING TML NEWLY ELECTED CITY OFFICIALS' ORIENTATION TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR NEWLY ELECTED OR APPOINTED COUNCILMEMBERS; PROVIDING A REPEALING CLAUSE; PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]
CONSIDERATION AND ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-788, ESTABLISHING TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE NEWLY ELECTED OF CITY OFFICIALS ORIENTATION TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR NEWLY ELECTED OR APPOINTED COUNCIL MEMBERS, PROVIDING A REPEALING CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.>> MADAM MAYOR, I VOTE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 7, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-788, ESTABLISHING TML NEWLY ELECTED CITY OFFICIALS ORIENTATION TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR NEWLY ELECTED OR APPOINTED COUNCIL MEMBERS, PROVIDING A REPEALING CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOE AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FECHT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-788, ESTABLISHING THE TML NEWLY ELECTED CITY OFFICIALS ORIENTATION TRAINING.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO.
>> I'M OBVIOUSLY THE MOST RECENT PERSON TO HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT.
THERE'S THREE THINGS HERE IN THE SUMMARY.
ONE IS THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, THE SECOND IS THE OPEN MEETING ACT, AND THE THIRD IS THE ACTUAL TML EVENT ITSELF.
THE PIA, OR PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, AS WELL AS THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT, BOTH OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT, ALREADY REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.
WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION ONLINE FOR FREE AND GET OUR CERTIFICATE.
THE TML EVENT ITSELF IS A DAY AND A HALF EVENT.
THE HALF A DAY OF THE SECOND DAY IS PURELY ON TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT AND PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.
BASICALLY, IT'S A REPEAT OF WHAT YOU ALREADY COULD GET FREE ONLINE.
THE OTHER DAY, FIRST DAY, OTHER THAN, OF COURSE, MEETING A NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE ON COUNCILS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, IMPORTANT, INTERESTING, A GOOD PORTION OF THE DAY IS ALSO ABOUT JUST ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AND PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
WE'RE NOT PARKER, AND WE'RE NOT PLANO, AND WE'RE NOT RICHARDSON.
THE WAY THAT WE CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS IS NOT ALL THAT CLOSE TO WHAT SOMETIMES THEY PREACH IN THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, YET THEY SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME ON IT.
THEN HAVING GONE DOWN TO SAN ANTONIO FOR IT, IT COST THE CITY, WHEN I WENT, I THINK IT WAS CLOSE TO MAYBE $1,900 OR SOMETHING.
IT WAS EXPENSIVE, TIME WENT DOWN THERE, AND THE HOTEL, ET CETERA.
TO SAY THAT WE LEARN SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET OVER THE VIDEO FOR FREE, AND THEN GO OVER PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, WHICH WE DON'T REALLY FOLLOW TO THAT DECREE HERE, I WOULD RATHER TAKE THE NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TML EVENTS THAT COME UP THAT DO LOOK PRETTY INTERESTING, AT LEAST TO ME, THAT COME UP THAT WE SEE FROM OUR E MAILS AND SEND PEOPLE TO THOSE THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.
THEREFORE, THIS WHOLE THING IS JUST TO SAY IT FORCES US TO SEND A NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIAL TO THE TML.
AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE BEST USE OF OUR FUNDS.
>> I WOULD CONCUR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO.
IT SEEMS TO BE OVERKILL AND MUCH BETTER WAY, GOOD SUGGESTION OF DOING SOME OTHER TYPES OF TRAINING.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME GOOD THINGS THROUGH TML.
BUT THIS ONE, NOW, I HAVE TO ADMIT I TOOK MINE DURING COVID AND I DID IT ONLINE, BUT WE GET THE MAIN PIECE THAT WE'RE ALREADY REQUIRED TO TAKE, WHICH IS ONLINE.
THEN THANKFULLY, WE DO DO THAT.
OUR CITY ATTORNEY GIVES AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION OF THOSE PACKS. MY TWO CENTS.
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>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-788, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION FAILS ON A VOTE OF 3-2.
COUNCIL MEMBER NOE AND COUNCIL MEMBER FECHT WERE FOR AND MAYOR PRO TEM REED, COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH, AND COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO WERE AGANIST.
[8. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-789 SUSPENDING CERTAIN PARK RULES APPLICABLE TO THE PRESERVE, A CITY PARK, PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 97.11 AND 97.14 OF THE PARKER CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CONCERT IN THE PRESERVE ON SATURDAY, MAY 11, 2024, FROM 5:00 P.M. TO 9:00 P.M., UPON SATISFYING CERTAIN CONDITIONS; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]
CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-789, SUSPENDING CERTAIN PARK RULES APPLICABLE TO THE PRESERVE A CITY PARK PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 97.11 AND 97.14 OF THE PARKER CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CONCERT IN THE PRESERVE TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 11TH, 2024, FROM 5:00-9:00 PM, SATISFYING CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL TO SUSPEND CERTAIN RULES, AND THEY WERE LISTED IN YOUR PACKET.
NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES, IN CASE THERE'S FOOD TRUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR THE SOUND STAGE, YOU'LL HAVE A LIST OF WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT'S FOR SUSPENDING THEM FOR THE HOURS OF 5:00-9:00, AN HOUR BEFORE THE CONCERT'S SUPPOSED TO START, AND AN HOUR AFTER IT ENDS.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-789, SUSPENDING CERTAIN PARK RULES APPLICABLE TO THE PRESERVE A CITY PARK PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 97.11 AND 97.14 OF THE PARKER CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CONCERT IN THE PRESERVE TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 11TH, 2024, FROM 5:00 PM-9:00 PM.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM JIM REED AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TODD FECHT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024-789.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-789, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FIVE, ZERO.
PARKS & RECS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[9. CONSIDERATION AND ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-790 AUTHORIZING THE FUTURE PLACEMENT OF STOP SIGNS SO THERE WILL BE THREE STOP SIGNS AT THE INTERSECTION OF DUBLIN & CREEKSIDE COURT, AND THREE STOP SIGNS AT THE INTERSECTION OF DUBLIN AND EDGEWATER COURT THEREBY CREATING A THREE-WAY STOP AT EACH INTERSECTION.]
CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-790, AUTHORIZING THE FUTURE PLACEMENT OF STOP SIGNS.THERE WILL BE THREE STOP SIGNS AT THE INTERSECTION OF DUBLIN AND CREEKSIDE COURT, AND THREE STOP SIGNS AT THE INTERSECTION OF DUBLIN AND EDGEWATER COURT, THEREBY CREATING A THREE-WAY STOP AT EACH INTERSECTION.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-790, AUTHORIZING THE FUTURE PLACEMENT OF STOP SIGNS AS NOTED.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FECHT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-790.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO.
>> WELL, GOING BACK. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS CREATE A PROBLEM BY FIXING A PROBLEM.
LOOKING THROUGH THE INFORMATION, WHICH OBVIOUSLY MIGHT BE DATED, IT SAID THE CITY MARSHAL CAN PLACE A SIGN BASICALLY WHEREVER THEY DEEM NEEDED.
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WHICH I ASSUME NOW IS OUR CHIEF OF POLICE.HAVING TALKED TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, SOME INDICATED THAT THE STATE LAW OF TEXAS BASICALLY SAYS THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF STUDY AT THE INTERSECTION TO IDENTIFY IF IT, IN FACT, WARRANTS A STOP SIGN.
THAT STUDY SHOULD BE DONE PRIOR TO ANY TYPE OF PLACEMENT OF A STOP SIGN BECAUSE, IN FACT, IF SOMEONE RAN THE STOP SIGN AND IT WAS A PLACE THAT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE EVER HAD A STOP SIGN TO START WITH, THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL LEGAL ISSUES.
IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, CERTAINLY, I'M OKAY WITH THE STOP SIGNS.
ALONG EDGEWATER, ESTATE LANE, AND CREEKSIDE, A LOT DIDN'T REALLY WANT THE STOP SIGN BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO STOP TRYING TO GO UP AND DOWN DUBLIN.
I'D SAY MORE THAN 50% PROBABLY SAID IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE INCREASED POLICE PRESENCE THERE AT LEAST WHEN THE SCHOOLS COME OUT, ETC, BECAUSE THEY FELT MAJORITY ARE PEOPLE COMING FROM SCHOOL AT POST-SCHOOL TIMES, COMING THROUGH THERE.
BUT THEY JUST HAD ANOTHER ACCIDENT ACTUALLY SATURDAY WHERE THEY PLOWED THROUGH, AGAIN, THE ROCKS AND THE DRISCOLL'S FENCE.
I TALKED WITH THE DRISCOLL'S, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CONTINUE TO GET THEIR FENCE PLOWED THROUGH AND SAID, WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE TO SEE, AND REALLY PUT IT UP THERE AND SAID, WE COULD MAYBE LOOK AT STOP SIGNS, WE COULD LOOK AT SOME TYPE OF POLICE PRESENCE, COULD PUT UP SOME TYPE OF GUARD RAIL.
WE FELT THAT THE GUARD RAIL PROBABLY WOULD DO A LOT MORE DAMAGE TO THE CAR.
MAY STOP PEOPLE FROM RUNNING THROUGH THAT S CURVE QUITE A BIT.
IT PROBABLY DID CREATE A LARGER CHANCE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME INJURY FROM IT BECAUSE IT IS TOUGHER RUNNING INTO A GUARD RAIL THAN SOME ROCKS AND A FENCE.
POLICE PRESENCE, TOUGH, BECAUSE I THINK MAJORITY OF PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THERE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THERE ANYWAY.
A FEW PEOPLE GET STOPPED ALONG THE WAY, PROBABLY NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
OUR FLASHING LIGHTS OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T HAD SOME EXTENT, THE BIGGEST EXTENT, I THINK, WHICH SOME PEOPLE SAID EARLIER HAS BEEN THE DISREPAIR OF THE ROAD.
IT SLOWED THEM DOWN AND REDUCED THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS.
I'M CERTAINLY GOOD WITH STOP SIGNS AS LONG AS I COULD GET SOME TYPE OF UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CITY OR LAWYER THAT, IN FACT, IT DOES NOT NEED A STUDY AND WE CAN PLACE A STOP SIGN THERE ON OUR OWN ACCORD.
>> LEGAL, I WILL ASK FOR YOUR OPINION ON THAT.
>> WELL, THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED WAS IN 1979, AND THERE IS A PROCESS.
I THOUGHT THAT IT DID ACTUALLY SAY THAT IT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION CODE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
IF WE FOUND THAT IT DID REQUIRE A STUDY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THESE WERE GOING TO BE ERECTED IMMEDIATELY.
>> BASICALLY, WHEN I TALKED TO MR. BIRKHOFF, OUR CITY ENGINEER, THE STUDY WAS NOT NEEDED WHEN HE CHECKED WITH HIS TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
IT IS THE CITY'S RIGHT TO PUT UP STOP SIGNS WHERE THEY PLEASE.
IF THAT HAS CHANGED IN THEIR OPINION, IT HASN'T BEEN RELAYED TO ME.
AT THIS POINT, I'M JUST LOOKING AT UNIFORM TRAFFIC CODE RIGHT NOW.
>> I FOUND THAT THERE WAS A SECTION 2A.03 OF THE TEXAS MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.
IT SAYS, GUIDANCE AT INTERSECTIONS WHERE FULL STOP IS NECESSARY AT ALL TIMES, CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN FIRST USING LESS RESTRICTIVE MEASURES SUCH AS YIELD SIGNS.
THE USE OF STOP SIGNS ON MINOR STREET SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IF ENGINEERING JUDGMENT INDICATES THAT A STOP IS ALWAYS REQUIRED BECAUSE OF ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS; TRAFFIC VOLUME, RESTRICTED VIEW EXISTS THAT REQUIRE ROAD USERS TO STOP IN ORDER TO ADEQUATELY OBSERVE CONFLICTING TRAFFICS ON THE STREET, OR HIGHWAY AND OR CRASH RECORDS INDICATING THAT THREE OR MORE CRASHES THAT ARE SUSCEPTIBLE CORRECTION BY INSTALLING A STOP SIGN HAVE BEEN REPORTED WITHIN 12 MONTHS. THERE'S MORE TO THAT.
>> WE CERTAINLY HAVE HAD THAT.
I SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT WE DID DO SOME STOP SIGN PLACEMENT ON A TEMPORARY BASIS TO OMIT SOME DIFFERENT THINGS. HAVE WE NOT DONE THAT?
>> NO. THAT WASN'T AT THAT AREA.
THOSE WERE TEMPORARY STOP SIGNS OVER IN A CONSTRUCTION SITE.
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>> BUT I MEAN IN A DIFFERENT AREA.
>> AS FAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT.
>> CORRECT. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE 1979 LAW, WE PROBABLY NEED TO REVISIT THAT ORDINANCE AT SOME POINT JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S WORDED.
THE WAY I READ IT WAS IT WAS IN THE TIME OF EMERGENCY BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CHIEF OR MARSHAL AT THAT TIME TO SIGN A DOCUMENT, FILE IT WITH THE CITY SECRETARY, AND ALSO FILE IT WITH THE MAYOR.
THAT TO ME SEEMED LIKE IT WAS MORE OF AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
WE'LL NEED TO COME BACK LATER ON AND PROBABLY CLEAN UP THAT.
>> BUT NO. AS FAR AS I KNOW ON THIS, THERE WOULD NOT BE A TRAFFIC STUDY NEED AT THIS TIME.
>> I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE NUMEROUS RESIDENTS OFF OF ESTATE LANE AND OVER IN THAT AREA THAT CONTACTED ME, AND NOT ONE OF THEM WERE IN FAVOR OF IT.
THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING, BUT THEY CAN'T DEFINE WHAT IT IS.
THEY JUST DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING THE ANSWER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMENTS? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE ON ADOPTING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-790.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[10. UPDATE(S):]
MR. OLSON, I THINK WE START WITH YOU ON AN UPDATE ON 2551.>> 2551, THEY ARE STARTING TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK.
RAIN IS STARTING TO SLOW SOME OF THE PROGRESS DOWN AT THIS TIME.
THE CREW THAT WAS, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WORKING ON THE DRAINAGE PROJECT FROM HOGGE TO MAXWELL CREEK, THEY GOT PULLED ONTO ANOTHER JOB, SO THEY'LL BE BACK.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE BACK THIS WEEK OR BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK.
I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ON THAT ONE.
BUT THEY SHOULD BE BACK OUT SOON.
>> I'D SAY, THE WEBSITE, ROBIN AND LAURIE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THE COMPANY ON ADDRESSING THE FORMAT OF THE WEBSITE.
THE ONE AREA THAT I GUESS WAS DISAPPOINTED TO LEARN IS TO HOW OUR WEBSITE, IT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS FROM ANY OF OUR OTHER RECORDS RETENTION SO THAT ANYTHING ON THE WEBSITE IS SOMEWHERE ELSE ON OUR CITY SERVER.
IT'S AN ADDITIONAL STEP FOR EVERYBODY TO ENTER SOMETHING INTO THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
FROM A TRANSPARENCY STANDPOINT, I THINK THE CITY REALLY WORKS HARD TO KEEP THAT INFORMATION UP, BUT IT'S MORE WORK.
I THINK WE'RE STILL TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OPTIONS, HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
SOME CITIES DO USE THEIR CITY SERVER, BUT LUKE HAD SOME GOOD POINTS.
WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO PUT OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THAT.
>> TO GO BACK, I THINK THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD A SECURITY BREACH WAS THROUGH THE LASERFICHE SOFTWARE. IS THAT CORRECT, PETTLE? WAS THAT HOW THEY GOT THROUGH OUR SERVER BACK IN 2017 BEFORE I WAS HERE? I THINK THAT'S HOW THEY GOT AND LOCKED DOWN OUR LASERFICHE AT THAT TIME.
>> IT NEEDS TO BE FLUSHED OUT. BUT THE WORK THAT ROBIN AND LAURIE HAVE DONE IS A GREAT START AND WILL BE A GOOD THING TO START THE WEBSITE OFF.
BUT HOPEFULLY, WE CAN FIND WAYS OF MORE EFFICIENTLY SETTING THAT UP.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WITH OUR CONTRACT IT PERSON OF SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS, LIKE SHAREPOINT, OR SOME OTHER FORMAT THAT WE COULD USE, HOPEFULLY.
>> BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO MAKE THE WEBSITE AS USER FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO 34 STEPS TO TRY TO FIND THE CODE OF ORDINANCE OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> I CAN TELL YOU, ON THE NEW WEBSITE, IT'S ACTUALLY A CLICK OF A BUTTON ON THE FRONT HOME PAGE.
I'D SAY THAT WE'RE IN A BIT OF A DELAY.
WE'RE WAITING ON ONE FOR THE CIP TO GET APPROVED.
NOW THAT IT'S APPROVED, HELPFUL.
[02:40:03]
WE'RE ALSO WAITING ON A COUPLE OF REVISIONS.THEREFORE, PRIOR TO SETTING UP OUR NEXT MEETING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON, REVISIONS TO COME ABOUT IN ORDER TO DISTRIBUTE.
>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, WE RECEIVED OUR 2024, I BELIEVE, F-150 A WEEK-AND-A-HALF AGO.
WE STILL ARE WAITING FOR THE OTHER F-150, WHICH I THINK WAS COMING AT THE END OF JULY, AUGUST.
THEN WE HAVE ONE THAT WILL BE STARTING OUTFITTING.
THE FORD EXPEDITION WILL BE OUTFITTED BEGINNING OF JUNE OF THE COMING MONTHS.
THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON IT. IT MIGHT MOVE UP A LITTLE BIT WITH THE OUTFITTING IF SOME ADDITIONAL PARTS COME IN FOR THE OUTFITTING OF THAT IN A SOONER TIME FRAME.
>> WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET TO THEM THIS WEEK.
>> I KNOW. BUT WE DID HAVE 28 RFQS.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THOSE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT IT OFF.
IT JUST HAS BEEN REALLY BUSY LATELY.
>> YES. THIS WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP BY COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'VE LOOKED AT THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE WITHIN THAT.
WE THINK BASICALLY WHAT WE CAN DO IS IT DOES ALLOW THE CITY OR OTHER UTILITY ENTITIES TO HAVE A RESTRICTION OR GET APPROVAL FROM THEM.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, I'VE TALKED WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, IF THEY WANT TO PUT A FENCE WITHIN OUR EASEMENTS AND IT'S NOT A MAJOR EASEMENT WE USE ON A DAILY BASIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SIGN A WAIVER THAT WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND THAT WOULD RUN CONCURRENT WITH THAT, SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT.
I THINK THAT SOLVES YOUR ISSUE THAT YOU WERE HAVING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT WILL BE AWESOME. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE HOMEOWNER, PROPERTY OWNER, TO SIGN SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY HAS SOMETHING, RECORDS WE GOT THE RIGHT TO DO THIS.
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL TAKING A LOOK AT THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO. WE APPRECIATE THAT BRINGING IT UP TO OUR ATTENTION.
OUR BIGGEST FEAR WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DAMAGE A FENCE OR SOMETHING AND ONLY THE FENCE CONTRACTORS COME IN AND SIGNED OFF ON IT, AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HOMEOWNERS SIGNED OFF ON IT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE WILL GET SOME SORT OF DOCUMENT DRAWN UP AND GET THAT MOVING FORWARD. [OVERLAPPING]
POOLS YOU MAKE THE HOMEOWNER SIGN THAT THING THAT THEY PUT THIS THING.
>> THE CHILDREN'S SAFETY FENCE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT EVEN GETS NOTARIZED. [LAUGHTER].
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER UPDATES? AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOUR MONTHLY REPORTS ARE TO BE REVIEWED AS YOU CAN,
[11. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $500)]
AND AS WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING ON MONTHLY REPORTS ON AN AGENDA PRETTY QUICKLY, WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE LOOK AT THEM TO SEE IF THEY'RE GATHERING THE INFORMATION YOU WANT, IF NOT, WHAT INFORMATION AND WHAT'S THE FORMAT THAT WILL BE BECAUSE THAT'S COMING UP.NEXT IS DONATIONS, ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD.
ONE, MURPHY DENTAL AND IMPLANT CENTER DONATED SNACKS, VALUED AT $20 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
MIRIAM BUROGARDE AND MOHAMMED MASSADI DONATED ONE DOZEN BUNDTINIS VALUED AT $28 TO CITY STAFF.
JONI COBB DONATED SNACKS VALUED AT $40 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THESE PEOPLE.
WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST GENEROUS AND GIVING RESIDENTS AND THEY MAKE OUR POLICE, FIRE, AND STAFF FEEL SO GRATEFUL.
THEY LOOK AT WHAT GOES ON IN OTHER CITIES, ESPECIALLY OUR POLICE AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE, HOW CAN PEOPLE BE LIKE THAT AND NOT APPRECIATE THEM? BECAUSE OUR RESIDENTS JUST SO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING, ALL THE COOPERATION, AND WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
LASTLY, ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS?
[12. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
MR. KERCHO. COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO.>> I JUST HAD A QUESTION. ON THE MAY 14TH MEETING ON CANVASSING, IS THAT ALL THAT THAT MEETING IS GOING TO BE IS BASICALLY BRINGING ON NEW COUNCIL MEMBER? [OVERLAPPING]
[02:45:01]
>> IT WILL BE CANVASSING THE VOTE, INSTALLING THE NEW, SAYING GOODBYE TO THE OLD, AND THEN HAVING A RECEPTION, AND ELECTING A MAYOR PRO TEM. THAT'S IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MY CONCERN THERE IS THAT WE TOOK THE MAY 7TH MEETING, MOVED TO MAY 14TH, AND MAY 14 IS ONLY CANVASSING, AND THEN SECOND MEETING IN MAY, WE'VE CANCELED, WHICH SEEMS THAT WE WON'T HAVE A SINGLE MEETING IN MAY.
>> UNLESS WE CALL FOR A SPECIAL ONE, THE DIFFICULTY IS, WE HAVE VOTING GOING ON IN THIS ROOM AT THE TIME WE SHOULD HAVE OUR SECOND MEETING, MAY 21ST I THINK IT IS, AND IF I MOVE IT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE LOSE LIVE STREAMING.
I HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT COMPLAIN IF WE HAVE A MEETING THAT IS NOT LIVE-STREAMED BECAUSE THEY CANNOT BE HERE IN PERSON AND THEY WANT TO WATCH IT LIVE-STREAMED AND WE HAVE NO MECHANISM IF WE HAVE IT IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THEREFORE I WOULD RATHER CANCEL THE MEETING THAN CUT ALL THE PEOPLE OUT FROM SEEING IT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAYBE ADD ADDITIONAL COMMENT ON TO WHAT COUNCILMAN KERCHO JUST NOTED, AND THAT IS THAT TODAY WE HAD THE VOTING EQUIPMENT HERE, AND WE DID GO AHEAD AND CARRY ON A COUNCIL MEETING TODAY, SO I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY AS SCHEDULED IF POSSIBLE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE DIFFERENCE IS TODAY'S MEETING ENDED AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
THAT MEETING ENDS AT SEVEN, AND SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO START A COUNCIL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU MEAN THE VOTING. [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH. I'M SORRY. THAT VOTING IS 7:00-7:00.
>> SURE. I GUESS, WOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO RESCHEDULE THAT MEETING FOR A DIFFERENT DAY OTHER THAN THE TUESDAY THAT IT'S SCHEDULED? [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. WE CAN DO THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
I THINK WE ALL LOOK AT SCHEDULES AND SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT JUST SO WE CAN KEEP THINGS MOVING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. I'LL HAVE TO. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'D LIKE TO GET CAUGHT UP ON SOME STUFF TOO [LAUGHTER] I UNDERSTAND.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME OTHER THINGS OUT THERE LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SOME THINGS GOING THERE AND SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE GOING ON.
IT'D BE NICE TO KEEP THINGS MOVING.
FROM MAY 20TH TO MAY 28TH, AND THEN ELECTION DAY IS ACTUALLY OF MAY 28, YEAH.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE MONDAY, MAY 27TH, IT SAYS NO VOTING.
>> DEPENDS ON IF THERE IS A QUORUM.
WELL, IF IF EVERYONE WILL LET US KNOW, WOULD YOU BE AVAILABLE ON MAY 27TH. EXCUSE ME, PATTY?
>> IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW COUNCIL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S MEMORIAL DAY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MEMORIAL DAY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> OH, I GUESS THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT A GOOD DAY.
MAYBE THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO VOTING.
>> WE REALLY DID TRY TO LOOK AT FINDING ANOTHER DAY BUT IF WE CAN COME UP ONE.
>> >> WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE NEW COUNCIL ON AT THAT POINT, POSSIBLY TWO, MAYBE ONE, NOT SURE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SUPER QUORUM.
>> I WOULD STILL PUSH TO EITHER HAVE IT IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T ZOOM IT BECAUSE I THINK GOING THE ENTIRE MONTH WITHOUT A COUNCIL MEETING JUST ISN'T REALLY GOOD. [OVERLAPPING]
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CHIEF, SHEFF HAS ALWAYS BEEN WONDERFUL TO US AND ALLOW US TO USE THAT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE CAN'T LIVE-STREAM OR ANYTHING.
THERE'S ALSO LIMITED SEATING IN THERE.
>> IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD JUST HAVE IT RECORDED AUDIO-WISE? COULD I KNOW WE'VE HAD OTHER MEETINGS THAT WE RECORDED USING AUDIO IN THERE, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT.
>> REMEMBER WE TRIED TO DO THAT? YOU RECORDED ONE OF THE CIP MEETINGS IN THE FIRE STATION.
>> IF I HAVE TO, I CAN FIGURE IT OUT HOW TO DO A BETTER JOB THIS NEXT TIME.
IT'S JUST THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THAT LAST CIP MEETING THAT IT DIDN'T CATCH EVERYONE SPEAKING BECAUSE I ONLY HAD ONE CAMERA.
>> LET US LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHAT MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH.
I AGREE WITH Y'ALL THAT IT'S BETTER
[02:50:01]
TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AND GO AHEAD AND A SPECIAL MEETING DOES HAVE TO HAVE A SUPER QUORUM.>> YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT COUNCIL ON 7TH THAT YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO GO.
WE CANCELED THE 7TH AND MADE THE CANVASSING ON THE 14TH, THE 7TH WOULD BE A REGULAR MEETING DATE.
I'M JUST SUGGESTING IF YOU'RE WANTING A SECOND DATE AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE READY, BUT I THINK THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ITEMS SO THE NEXT THING WE NEEDED TO TAKE CARE WAS CANVASING.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT DATE OUT.
>> YEAH. IF IF THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WAS NECESSARY RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE DETERMINED THAT MEETING WOULD BE CANCELED, THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA IS APPOINTING THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE, IT'S THE APPOINTMENT OF OFFICIALS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
IT'S VERY EASY TO MOVE THEM TO JUNE, BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT COULD COME UP THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, SO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO CUT OUR RESIDENTS OUT FROM BEING ABLE TO SEE LIVE-STREAM OR SOME WAY OF ACCESSING EVERYTHING.
ANYTHING ELSE? THEN SINCE THIS CLOCK'S, AND I SURE HOPE IT'S WRONG, IT SAYS IT'S 2:33. [LAUGHTER]
>> THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> I KNOW MAYBE THE ORDER AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, THE BIBLE SAYS [INAUDIBLE], WE MAY BE AGAINST SOME OF THE THINGS BUT THE PERSONAL TAX THAT WAS BROUGHT ON BY SOME OF Y'ALL TODAY, YOU HAVE TO RECEIVE MORE [INAUDIBLE] UPON IT.
IT IS 10:33. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
>> TWO, THREE MORE. [LAUGHTER]
>> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO START TAKING BREAKS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.