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>> GOOD EVENING. I HEREBY CALL
[CALL TO ORDER]
THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING OF PARKER, TEXAS TO ORDER.IT IS FEBRUARY 20TH, 2024 AT 6:00 PM.
MR. OLSON, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM?
>> OKAY. WE'VE GOT A QUORUM, WE DON'T HAVE A SUPER QUORUM.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL RECESS TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH
[EXECUTIVE SESSION START TO FINISH]
THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074, GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0711, AND GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0712.AT THIS TIME, WE ARE IN RECESS.
>> YES, MADAM MAYOR YOU DO. [BACKGROUND]
>> NO, MADAM MAYOR. [BACKGROUND]
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
[BACKGROUND][CONSENT AGENDA]
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>> MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO REMOVE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 3 RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-781 AND PLACE IT IN INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. [BACKGROUND]
>> MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR ITEMS NUMBER 1 AND 2 AS PRESENTED. [BACKGROUND]
>> MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THE MOTION [BACKGROUND]
>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION WHAT MOTION ARE WE LOOKING FOR?
>> I DID READ THAT AND THE QUESTION I GUESS IS DO I ADDRESS MY QUESTIONS THEN TO MAYOR PATEL?
>> I THINK THAT WAS THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THAT COMMUNICATION IS THAT, TWO AND THROUGH SO YOU TELL HER WHAT THE CHAIR WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW AND THEN SHE DIRECTS THE NEXT OF THE CONVERSATION.
>> THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS OVER AGREEMENT REALLY BETWEEN
[3. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-781 AUTHORIZING AN INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PARKER AND THE TOWN OF FAIRVIEW, TEXAS FOR TEMPORARY USE OF FIRE APPARATUS (LOANING AND BORROWING OF FIRE APPARATUS).]
US AND THE CITY OF FAIRVIEW IN TERMS OF IF WE SUMMARIZE AS BEST AS I CAN, IF WE HAVE AVAILABLE APPARATUS AND FAIR VIEW IS IN NEED OF IT, THEN WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND LIKELY LEND THAT EQUIPMENT UP TO FAIR VIEW.THE AGREEMENT THEN READS BASICALLY THAT WHAT WE ASK IS, IN ESSENCE, IF WE NEED IT BACK, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN GET IT BACK TOO, IS THAT IT GETS RETURNED WITH AS MUCH GAS THAT WAS IN THE VEHICLE AS WHEN WE LENT IT.
MY QUESTION IS THAT I KNOW WE HAVE SOMEWHAT A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CITY OF FAIRVIEW FIRE DEPARTMENT, CERTAINLY IN MAINTAINING OUR VISION OF BEING UNIQUELY COUNTRY, IT CERTAINLY IS THE TYPICAL THING THAT IF SOMEONE NEEDS A TRUCK AND YOUR FRIEND NEEDS A TRUCK, THEN, YEAH, GO AHEAD AND USE THE TRUCK, JUST BRING BACK SOME GAS IN IT.
I GET IT BEING FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THAT THROUGH THE AGREEMENT ITSELF, IT TALKS ABOUT THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE CITY OF FAIRVIEW TO HAVE INSURANCE.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS OF COURSE, I WOULD HAVE IS IS THE INSURANCE LIMITS BASICALLY THE SAME AS WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON OUR OWN VEHICLES? SECOND QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF CITY OF FAIRVIEW IS ACTUALLY UTILIZING
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THE EQUIPMENT AND FOR WHATEVER REASON GETS INTO AN ACCIDENT, AND THAT EQUIPMENT IS NO LONGER USABLE.I KNOW THE AGREEMENT TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD COVER DAMAGES, BUT DAMAGES ISN'T REALLY SPELLED OUT IN THE AGREEMENT AT ALL.
I ASSUME FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT, IT'S NOT LIKE HAVING AN AUTOMOBILE AND YOU GET THE RENTAL CAR COVERAGE.
[LAUGHTER] FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IF WE DON'T HAVE USE OF THAT EQUIPMENT AND WE NEED IT AND THEY BASICALLY GOT INTO AN ACCIDENT MAKING IT UNUSABLE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT AND BASICALLY GET SOMETHING.
IS THAT THEN COVERED IN DAMAGES AS WELL? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT TRYING TO EVEN ORDER FIRE EQUIPMENT, IT COULD TAKE A COUPLE YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW BETWEEN PARTS AND TRYING TO GET MORE EQUIPMENT IN HERE, HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
LASTLY, BEING THE THIRD QUESTION, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT CERTAINLY IF WE LENT EQUIPMENT UP THERE AND SAD IN THEIR FACILITY AND THEY FELT THAT THEY NEEDED IT JUST BECAUSE IT WOULD BE BENEFIT FOR SAFETY OF THEIR OWN CITIZENS, BUT THEY DIDN'T WIND UP USING IT.
BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT AS WE GET RID OF FIRE EQUIPMENT, WE GET VERY LITTLE BACK FOR WHAT WE INITIALLY SPENT ON THE FIRE EQUIPMENT.
THE ODOMETER DOESN'T READ ALL THAT HIGH WHEN WE GET RID OF IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, NOT REALLY KNOWING HOW MUCH THEY WOULD USE OUR EQUIPMENT OR WE WOULD USE THEIR EQUIPMENT, THEN I'M WONDERING IF THERE REALLY SHOULD BE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SAYS, OKAY BASED UPON MILEAGE USED THAT THERE'S AT LEAST SOME TYPE OF RATE TO MAKE IT FAIR TO BOTH CITIES.
>> RESPOND TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT COMPARABLE INSURANCE WOULD REQUIRE IN OTHER VEHICLES.
I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
FROM TIME TO TIME, SMALL FIRE DEPARTMENTS WILL BORROW EQUIPMENT FROM THE OTHERS WHEN IT'S NEEDED FOR VOIDS.
EACH DEPARTMENT HAVING TO MAINTAIN A SIGNIFICANT POOL OF ASSETS IN RESERVE, WHICH ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT TYPICALLY DO THIS ARE THOSE THAT WILL, FROM A MUTUAL AID PERSPECTIVE, OPERATE TOGETHER EFFECTIVELY BY US LENDING THEM BORROWING FROM THEM.
BY THE WAY, THIS IS MORE WITH RESPECT TO US BORROWING THAN FAIR VIEW BORROWING FROM US.
SINCE WE DON'T HAVE RESERVES AND THEY HAVE RESERVES FOR THEMSELVES.
BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS BECAUSE OF THE MUTUAL, THE JOINT RESPONSES, WE ALL BENEFIT TOGETHER FROM THE LOANING OF THIS APPARATUS.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE. SO THAT'S THE BENEFIT FOR THAT IN TERMS OF THE DETAIL AND GRANULARITY OF THE AGREEMENT ITSELF FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE USAGE AND THE TIME AND THE MILEAGE, ETC.
TYPICALLY, THESE ARE ROUGHLY A WEEK TO TWO WEEK LOANERS WHILE SOMETHING IS GETTING REPAIRED OR SOMETHING IS BEING WORKED ON IN AN EMERGENCY TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT, ALL OF THE VEHICLE REPAIR SHOPS PROVIDE EMERGENCY REPAIR SERVICE, EITHER WHEN REALLY CALLED UPON AND THEY'LL JUMP SOMEBODY AHEAD IN THE QUEUE.
WE'VE HAD TO UTILIZE THAT OCCASIONALLY OVER THE YEARS.
TO PUT PERSPECTIVE IN THE 40 YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, I CAN COUNT ON ONE HAND THE NUMBER OF TIMES WE BORROWED, AND WE BORROWED FROM FAIRVIEW ONCE, WE BORROWED FROM LUCAS ONCE AND THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THEY HAVE BORROWED ARE, IN THIS CASE, ENGINE 12, WHICH IS NOT OPERABLE NOW, BUT WHEN IT WAS, WE DID LOAN LUCAS FOR A PERIOD OF ABOUT A WEEK.
THAT APPARATUS, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH LUCAS ALREADY.
THIS AGREEMENT, BY THE WAY, IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS EXECUTED BETWEEN FAIRVIEW AND LUCAS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THIS FROM FAIRVIEW.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE AGREEMENT THEY HAVE WITH LUCAS.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AGAIN, IS MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY AMONG ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT OPERATE ON A REGULAR BASIS TOGETHER IN TERMS OF DEPRECIATION OF VALUE BECAUSE OF THE LOW, AND I THINK GIVEN A 20 YEAR LIFESPAN OF THESE THINGS, THE ONE OR TWO WEEKS THAT THEY WILL OPERATE, AND SINCE WE ALL OPERATE WITHIN THE SAME JURISDICTIONAL AREAS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THIS THING.
THIS IS NOT NEW YORK CITY, WHICH IS RUNNING ON 20 CALLS A DAY.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX IN FAIRVIEW,
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ONE OR TWO FOR US.WE BORROW THE OPERATIONAL NEED, THE NECESSITY OF HAVING, THIS IS REALLY HAVING IT IN YOUR BACK POCKET.
WHEN WE HAD OUR TRUCK OUT FOR SERVICE, AND WE'RE RELYING ON OUR OLD ENGINE, THAT ENGINE HAD A MECHANICAL BREAKDOWN.
AND WE REACHED OUT TO FAIRVIEW AND SAID, HEY, WE NEED SOMETHING WOULD YOU MIND AND THEY BROUGHT THEIR ENGINE OVER.
WE HAD ELEVATED THE ISSUE WITH THE TECHNICIANS.
THEY CAME OUT THAT SAME DAY THEY REPAIRED.
WE NEVER ACTUALLY NEEDED THE APPARATUS.
BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE BASIS OF THIS IS IF SOMEBODY CALLS AND SAYS, HEY, WE HAVE OURSELVES IN A BIND, CAN WE BORROW YOUR APPARATUS? THE THREE THINGS, AND I KNOW YOU POINTED OUT, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT WHICH IS IF WE DON'T HAVE IT TO GIVE, WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO GIVE.
THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO IN OUR MUTUAL AID.
WHEN WE REQUEST MUTUAL AID FROM A DEPARTMENT, OR A DEPARTMENT REQUESTS MUTUAL AID FROM US, THE AGREEMENT IS IF WE CAN DO IT, WE WILL.
THERE'S NO OBLIGATION ON OUR PART.
NOR COMMITMENT ON OUR PART TO DO THIS.
SIMILARLY, WE HAVE THAT SAME CONCEPT EMBEDDED HERE, AS WELL AS THE ABILITY TO, EITHER PARTY CAN TERMINATE THIS IN 90 DAYS WITHOUT ANY PENALTY.
THIS IS TRULY AN AGREEMENT OF CONVENIENCE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HAVING THE ABILITY TO REACH OUT TO FAIRVIEW, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, REACH OUT TO LUCAS IN A SIMILAR TYPE OF AGREEMENT.
IT'S BEEN SO LONG, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE IT IS, BUT IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE BURIED IN THE CITY RECORDS FOR US TO REACH OUT OR VICE VERSA ON THESE SMALL THINGS.
I'M NOT SURE I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, BUT I'M TRYING TO GIVE PERSPECTIVE TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
>> FROM OUR STANDPOINT, ALL ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT WOULD BE OFFICE OFFICE INSURED.
IT WOULDN'T MATTER DRIVE AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME COVERAGE AS THE INSURED TEAM INSURANCE.
YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO BE I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY HAVE TEAM INSURANCE THE SAME HAVE THE SAME COVERAGE.
>> I'M JUST LOOKING UP WITH FAIRVIEWS OF TML [LAUGHTER] INSURANCE. I'M TRYING TO FIND IT.
>> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR LEGAL COUNSEL.
IN THIS DOCUMENT, DOES IT STATE THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE US ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THE DECLARATION PAGE THAT THE INSURANCE POLICY IS IN FORCE? I DON'T SEE THAT.
>> THAT'S NOT IN THAT DOCUMENT.
THAT DOCUMENT IS JUST AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT'S AUTHORIZED UNDER 791.
WE COULD REQUIRE IT, BUT THEY COULD REQUIRE IT OF US AS WELL BECAUSE AS CHIEF MENTIONED, WE WERE MOSTLY BEING THE BORROWER IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND WE HAVE A LONGSTANDING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH SEVERAL OTHER CITIES.
I THINK IT'S FAIRVIEW, LUCAS, AND SOMEBODY ELSE WHERE WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN OPERATING UNDER THAT.
AND THIS WAS JUST TO REFINE DOWN THE RELATIONSHIP, TO ACTUALLY DELINEATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE BORROWING AND THEY'RE BORROWING THE APPARATUS.
>> IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE TML FAIRVIEW IS PART OF TML IRP.
SO I'D ASSUME THEY WOULD HAVE THE SAME COVERAGES AS US BECAUSE THERE'S PRETTY MUCH STANDARD COVERAGES, CORRECT. GRANT.
>> WE HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, MADAM MAYOR? [BACKGROUND]
>> I WOULD, THANK YOU. SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE'RE THE BORROWER.
BUT I MEAN SAME THING FROM AN ASPECT OF JUST FAIRNESS AS WE LOOK AT BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES.
QUESTION, I GUESS WHAT PART OF WHAT MAY BE GRANT BROUGHT UP IS IF IT'S THE INSURANCE, THAT WE HAVE INSURANCE AND THEY HAVE INSURANCE AND MAYBE IT'S REGARDLESS OF WHO'S DRIVING.
THEN IS THAT A QUESTION OF IN FACT, IF THERE IS DAMAGES OR SOME TYPE OF ACCIDENT? WELL, THEY WOULD HAVE OUR EQUIPMENT.
DOES IT COME BACK TO OUR INSURANCE IN TERMS OF PAYMENT,
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WHATEVER DEALING WITH THEM?>> SO UNDER THE INTERLOCAL COOPERATION ACT AND THEN HAVING THIS AGREEMENT IN PLACE ACTUALLY HELPS HAVE THE PAPER TRAIL RIGHT BECAUSE EACH OF US ARE COVERED BY OUR TML COVERAGE, OUR EQUIPMENT IS COVERED.
WE HAVE THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT AUTHORIZES THE USE BY EITHER CITY.
SO OBVIOUSLY WHOEVER IS USING IT WOULD BE THE ONE WHOSE INSURANCE SHOULD COVER THAT SITUATION. THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING.
>> SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, GOOD TO KNOW.
I STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ISSUE THAT THE DAMAGE THEMSELVES ARE NOT REALLY DEFINED AND IF THERE IS AN ACCIDENT, JUST HOW IT WORKS IF WE DON'T HAVE USE OF THAT EQUIPMENT ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BASICALLY PAY US.
IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, WE'D HAVE TO GO OUT AND TRY AND FIND EQUIPMENT.
AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT ON THE RENTAL MARKET. I DON'T KNOW.
SO DOES THAT MEAN THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE US A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD SUFFICE OR WHATEVER.
BUT I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT 95, MAYBE 99% OF TIME IS GOING TO BE A ONE WEEK, ONE DAY, TWO WEEK THING.
BUT JUST IN THE OFF CHANCE THAT IT ISN'T, THEN IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT COVERS IT, IN MY OPINION.
>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO REPEAT BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING TO EACH OTHER AND I DIDN'T CATCH IT ALL.
>> SO MY COMMENT WAS THAT I UNDERSTAND FROM WHAT YOU SAID CHIEF, THAT IT'S LIKELY A COUPLE DAYS, A WEEK, MAYBE A MAXIMUM OF A TWO WEEK TYPE SITUATION ALMOST FOR SURE.
HOWEVER, IF IT WHATEVER CASE MIGHT BE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT CASE THAT IS, BUT YOU CAN NEVER SAY NEVER IS THAT IT COULD BE LONGER.
AND IT COULD BE A LONGER SITUATION AND THERE COULD BE AN ACCIDENT THAT OCCURS IN OUR CASE, IF WE'RE NOT THE BORROWER BUT THE BORROW THAT THEY HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND WE'RE WITHOUT OUR EQUIPMENT FOR WHATEVER PERIOD OF TIME, REGARDLESS IF THEY HAVE A EMERGENCY REPAIR VIA SOMETIMES EMERGENCY REPAIR, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REPAIR IT.
IF IT HITS A TREE AND ROLLS OVER, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR THAT ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS, AND HAVE IT BACK TO YOU IMMEDIATELY.
SO TO ME, THE AGREEMENT DOESN'T REALLY COVER ENOUGH DESCRIPTION AND DAMAGES TO TRY TO IDENTIFY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS.
>> I'M THINKING OF TWO SPECIFIC RESPONSES.
FIRST, I ALWAYS LIKE TO PUT PERSPECTIVE AROUND THINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE 100% CORRECT.
WE CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR EVERYTHING. WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW.
SO PERSPECTIVE HERE IS WHEN WE OR ANY OTHER CITY PROVIDES A LONER, THIS IS OUT OF RESERVE.
THESE ARE NOT OUR FRONT LINE. THIS IS NOT OUR TRUCK.
WE DON'T GIVE OUR FRONT LINE APPARATUS.
THEY DON'T GIVE THEIR FRONT LINE APPARATUS.
SO FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF OUT OF USE, YES, IT COULD BE OUT OF USE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
I'M ASSUMING THE INDEMNITIES WE HAVE WOULD PROTECT US TO A DEGREE, FINANCIALLY.
THE OTHER IS THAT THE POOL OF RESERVE APPARATUS AMONG THESE CITIES, WILEY INCLUDED WE WOULD REACH OUT TO ONE OTHER PIECE OF APPARATUS IF WE NEEDED THAT IN THAT POOL.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL AGREEMENT AMONG ALL OF THE PARTIES.
IN THE EVENTUALITY, ONE PIECE OF APPARATUS, REGARDLESS OF WHICH THAT CITY HAPPENS TO HAVE OWNED IT, IS PERMANENTLY DESTROYED OR DESTROYED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IS IN A EXTENDED REPAIR.
THEN WE WOULD REACH OUT IF WE NEEDED OTHER APPARATUS UNDER AN AGREEMENT SIMILAR TO THIS, WE WOULD REACH OUT TO CITY LUCAS, WHOEVER HAS AN APPARATUS THAT THEY COULD LEND TO US.
THAT'S THE BEST RESPONSE I CAN GIVE YOU.
THE OTHER IS MORE OF A CAUTION, AND I DON'T MEET IT IN THE DEROGATORY SENSE, BUT THE MORE GRANULAR WE GET WITH THIS, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE OBLIGATED AS A CITY.
WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SORT OF CENTER OF THE FAIRWAY TYPE OF AGREEMENT, ACCOMMODATING AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES.
THIS, TO A DEGREE, ALSO PULLS FROM THE CALLEN COUNTY MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT WE HAVE FOR THE USE OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS,
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AS WELL AS OUR APPARATUS UNDER EMERGENCY SCENE.IT ALSO PULLS, I BELIEVE, FROM SOME OF THE WORDING WE USE IN OUR AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENTS WITH LUCAS WITH FAIRVIEW, ET CETERA.
SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS WE CAN ALWAYS GET MORE GRANUAL, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE OTHER SIDE ALSO, BUT I LEAVE IT TO COUNSEL DECIDE HOW GRANUAL YOU WANT TO GET.
IT REALLY IS UP TO YOU ALL AND I CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-7801 AUTHORIZING THE INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PARKER AND THE TOWN OF FAIRVIEW.
>> MADAM MAYOR I SECOND THE MOTION.
[4. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THE ANNUAL AUDIT REPORT.]
>> FIRST I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE, SO SOPHIA PARKER, THE AUDIT MANAGER FOR FALLON PARK IS GOING TO BE HERE TO PRESENT [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'M SOPHIE. I'M FROM FALLON PARK.
I'M ONE OF THE AUDIT MANAGERS THERE AND WE CONDUCTED YOUR FISCAL YEAR 2023 ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT.
I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT.
I'M COUNTING ON YOU, LUKE, TO ADVANCE MY SLIDES.
THANK YOU. IT SOLD BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THERE'S NOTHING WILD.
SO THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE OBJECTIVES AND THE SCOPE OF THE AUDIT.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE REPORT STRUCTURE ITSELF, AN OVERVIEW OF THE AUDIT RESULTS, SOME FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS THAT I THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU ALL AND TO MANAGEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN OUR REQUIRED GOVERNANCE COMMUNICATION LETTER.
THIS IS SIMPLY JUST YOUR AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS AND ANY PAST ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'RE USING TO TRACK.
THEN THERE WILL BE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END, BUT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON A SLIDE, FEEL FREE TO STOP ME IN THE MIDDLE AND ASK.
THE OBJECTIVES OF OUR AUDIT ARE TO CONDUCT AN AUDIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS AND GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS OR YELLOW BOOK.
PLAN AND PERFORM THE AUDIT TO OBTAIN REASONABLE ASSURANCE ABOUT WHETHER THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE FREE FROM MATERIAL MISSTATEMENT.
TO DO THIS, WE PERFORMED A RISK ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE THE NATURE, EXTENT, AND TIMING OF OUR SUBSTANTIVE AUDIT PROCEDURES AND WE ALSO DOCUMENTED THE CITY'S INTERNAL CONTROL AS WELL.
WE DID CONDUCT A FULL SCOPE AUDIT.
WE LOOKED AT THE GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES, BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITIES IN EACH MAJOR FUND.
IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR BOUND REPORT, THAT'S THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT WITH THE SEPARATELY ISSUED LETTERS IN THE FRONT COVER.
THE TABLE OF CONTENTS SHOWS YOU WHAT'S TO COME IN THAT REPORT.
YOU HAVE THE INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT FIRST PAGE, 1 THROUGH 3.
THE MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS.
A HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF WHAT WENT ON AT THE CITY AND A PROSPECT OF VIEW AT THE COMING YEAR, 7-15.
THE GOVERNMENT WIDE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ON PAGES 18 THROUGH 21, THESE ARE PREPARED USING THE ACCRUAL BASIS OF ACCOUNTING.
THE FUND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ON PAGES 22 THROUGH 28.
THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS ARE MODIFIED ACCRUAL AND THEN THE PROPRIETARY FUNDS ARE FULL ACCRUAL.
THE NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, JUST MORE DISCUSSION ON THE BALANCES.
THE REQUIRED SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION, THIS IS YOUR BUDGET TO ACTUAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND IN YOUR TMRS STATEMENTS.
OTHER SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION FOR PARKER, THIS IS THE COMBINING STATEMENTS, AND THEN THE COMPLIANCE AND INTERNAL CONTROL SECTION, AND THIS IS ANOTHER REPORT THAT WE ISSUED.
THE TWO REPORTS ARE THE INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
>> WE ISSUED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION ON PAGES 1 THROUGH THREE, IT WAS ALL STANDARD LANGUAGE OR A CLEAN OPINION.
AND THEN THE INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT ON INTERNAL CONTROL OVER FINANCIAL REPORTING AND ON COMPLIANCE AND OTHER MATTERS.
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THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS OR A YELLOW BOOK REPORT.AGAIN, ALL STANDARD LANGUAGE HERE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THERE WERE NO MATERIAL WEAKNESSES, SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES, OR OTHER CONTROL MATTERS TO COMMUNICATE TO ALL.
ON THE GOVERNMENT WIDE STATEMENTS, THE FULL ACCRUAL BASIS ON THOSE STATEMENT OF NET POSITION AND STATEMENT OF ACTIVITIES.
THE NET POSITION OF THE CITY AT FISCAL YEAR END WAS APPROXIMATELY 67.5 MILLION, ON PAGE 19.
THE OVERALL NET POSITION OF THE CITY INCREASED BY 4.8 MILLION OR 8%.
THEN UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION OF THE CITY IS 15.2 MILLION AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR SPEND.
THIS IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT YOUR GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES REVENUES.
YOUR REVENUES FOR GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES TOTALED 8.1 MILLION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 1.2 FROM THE PRIOR YEAR.
THIS IS LARGELY ATTRIBUTED TO THE GRANTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS INCREASE OF 59% FROM THE PRIOR YEAR DUE TO THE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE DEVELOPER.
IN ADDITION TO THE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS, WE ALSO NOTICED INCREASES IN PROPERTY TAXES AND INVESTMENT INCOME FROM THE PRIOR YEAR.
THE GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES EXPENSES, THESE TOTALED 6.3 MILLION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 45,000.
I WOULD CONSIDER THIS STAYED RELATIVELY STABLE, 1% ATTRIBUTED TO A SLIGHT INCREASE IN PUBLIC WORKS EXPENSE DUE TO ONGOING PROJECTS AND INCREASED PERSONNEL COSTS.
YOUR LARGEST FUNCTIONAL EXPENSE CATEGORY IS PUBLIC WORKS OF 3.1 MILLION.
THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF YOUR GENERAL FUND, AND UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE ON PAGE 22, WE LIKE TO POINT THIS OUT TO LOOK AT YOUR RESERVES.
AT FISCAL YEAR '22, YOUR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE WAS 5.5 MILLION.
THIS INCREASED TO 6.8 MILLION AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR '23, ROUGHLY AN INCREASE OF 1.3 MILLION.
THIS IS WHAT THE CITY CAN USE TO MEET ONGOING OBLIGATIONS.
GENERALLY, WE LIKE TO SEE 3-6 MONTHS.
THIS REPRESENTED A BALANCE OF 22 MONTHS IN RESERVES AT FISCAL YEAR END.
THEN YOUR BUDGET TO ACTUAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
I WANTED TO POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T EXCEED APPROPRIATIONS AT ANY LEVEL, WHICH IS GREAT.
THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES, FINAL BUDGET WAS 5.6 MILLION, YOUR ACTUAL WAS 6.1.
THIS IS A POSITIVE VARIANCE OF 488,000.
THIS SUGGESTS REALLY GOOD BUDGETARY CONTROL HERE.
BUT MOST ESPECIALLY IN YOUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, YOUR FINAL BUDGET WAS 4.5 MILLION, YOUR ACTUALS CAME IN ROUGHLY 3.7 MILLION.
THIS WAS A POSITIVE VARIANCE OF $823,558.
THEN YOUR OTHER FINANCING SOURCES AND USES, YOU BUDGETED FOR 1.1 MILLION, YOU CAME IN AT 1.18 MILLION.
THIS WAS A POSITIVE VARIANCE OF 28,000.
THE NET CHANGE AND FUND BALANCE HERE WAS 1.3 MILLION.
YOUR WATER AND SEWER FUND UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION AT FISCAL YEAR END FOR '22, IT WAS 4.9 MILLION.
AT '23, WE WERE AT 6.8 MILLION.
THIS REPRESENTED AN INCREASE OF 1.8 MILLION.
TOTAL NET POSITION OVERALL INCREASED BY ALMOST 3 MILLION OR 12%.
THIS IS AGAIN DUE TO THOSE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS IN YOUR WATER AND SEWER FUND, AS WELL AS AN INCREASE IN CHARGES FOR SERVICES FOR YOUR WATERS.
IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S A SEPARATELY BOUND LETTER IN THE FRONT OF YOUR PACKET.
THIS IS THE REQUIRED GOVERNANCE COMMUNICATIONS LETTER.
YOUR ATTACHMENT 1 SUMMARIZES CORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS ACCEPTED BY THE CITY.
ESSENTIALLY, THESE ARE AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS.
ANYTHING UNDER 10 IS GREAT NEWS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, AND THE ADJUSTMENTS WERE VERY SIMPLE IN NATURE.
THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE GOOD IDEAS TO COMMUNICATE BUT ARE NOT MATERIAL TO THE AUDIT.
WE DID COME UP WITH TWO RECOMMENDATIONS AFTER THIS YEAR'S AUDIT.
THE FIRST WAS TO REVIEW THE CASH RECONCILIATION AND ACCOUNTS PAYABLE PROCESS IN THE ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE ENCODE.
WE DID NOTICE THAT THERE WERE TIMES WHERE CASH TRANSACTIONS WERE CHANGING DATES DUE TO THE DATE THAT THE TRANSACTION WAS POSTED, WHICH THEN CAUSED YOUR HISTORIC LOOK AT RECONCILIATIONS TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY WERE IN THAT MOMENT.
WE DO SUGGEST THAT MAYBE TAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE TRAINING ON THAT SPECIFIC MODULE OF ENCODE WOULD BE USEFUL.
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THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY WANTED TO POINT OUT, THE CORONAVIRUS STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS.ALL CITIES AS YOU KNOW HAVE GOTTEN A PRETTY LARGE SUM OF FUNDS FOR THIS, BUT JUST BE MINDFUL THAT IT HAS TO BE ALLOCATED FOR SPEND BY THE END OF FISCAL YEAR '24 AND THAT COULD TRIGGER A SINGLE AUDIT IN AN UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.
A SINGLE AUDIT IS NEEDED WHEN THERE ARE EXPENDITURE IS IN EXCESS OF 750,000, SO THERE ARE COMPLIANCE AND CONTROL REQUIREMENTS THERE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK LUKE AND GRANT, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND THIS AUDIT HAS GONE REALLY WELL.
ALL THANKS TO THEM FOR FACILITATING THAT AND FOR YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO ME TONIGHT.
DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ANYTHING THAT I COULD ANSWER OR ADDRESS?
>> OKAY. I WILL START THIS OFF.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> [LAUGHTER] ACTUALLY, NOT TODAY.
>> OH MY GOD. I'M GOING TO HAVE HEART FAILURE.
>> [LAUGHTER] I APPRECIATE THE SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT WAS PRESENTED AND I THINK IT IT CLEARLY IDENTIFIES THE ITEMS IN THERE AND YEAH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I'M SURE THE CITY WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTIONS.
>> OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KACHO.
>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THE CORONA VIRUS RECOVERY FUNDS AS FAR AS THE EXCESS OF 750, SO IF WE SPEND IN EXCESS OF 750 INDICATES THAT WE COULD TRIGGER A SINGLE AUDIT.
I'M ASSUMING A SINGLE AUDIT MEANS THAT WHATEVER THAT PROJECT WAS, THAT THAT PROJECT ITSELF WOULD BE AUDITED.
THAT'S WHAT THE SINGLE AUDIT MAY BE.
>> YEAH, SO TECHNICALLY, IF YOU DID SPEND MORE THAN 750, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL EXPENSES OF FEDERAL FUNDS.
USUALLY THAT WOULD BE YOUR LARGEST BECAUSE YOU HAVE 1.2 MILLION AVAILABLE TO SPEND.
AND THEN WE WOULD DECIDE WHAT THE MAJOR PROGRAM FOR TESTING IS, IT WOULD BE THAT ONE, AND THEN WE WOULD DO COMPLIANCE AND CONTROL REQUIREMENTS OF THAT FEDERAL FUNDED PROGRAM.
>> YES. I GUESS TO CARRY ON ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION REGARDING COUNCIL MEMBER KACHO'S QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE, YOU NOTED 750, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY A TOTAL OF 1.2 MILLION IN TOTAL, SO HOW DID THOSE TWO NUMBERS DIFFER?
>> YEAH, SO 750 IS JUST THE THRESHOLD FOR SINGLE AUDIT, WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE AND WHAT EVERY CITY HAS, VERY SLIGHTLY.
YOU GUYS DO HAVE 1.2 IT'S RECOGNIZED IN YOUR DEFERRED REVENUE.
WHEN THAT'S SPENT, WE'LL RECOGNIZE THAT IN REVENUE PROPERLY.
>> THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION RELATED TO THAT.
>> WE'LL COME BACK AT THAT TIME.
>> JUST TO CARRY ON WITH AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THAT, IF THE PROJECT THAT WE EMBARK ON, LET'S JUST USE A ROUND NUMBER COST THREE MILLION AND 1.2 MILLION OF IT WAS FEDERAL FUNDS AND THE REST WAS FUNDS FROM OUR OWN RESOURCES WITHIN THE CITY.
DOES THAT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WITH RESPECT TO A PROJECT?
IT STILL JUST DEPENDS ON THE SOURCE OF THOSE FUNDS IS FROM A FEDERAL PROGRAM, SO ANY EXPENSE OF THOSE IN ONE FISCAL YEAR OF ANYTHING OVER 750 TRIGGERS A SINGLE AUDIT.
SOME OF OUR CITIES ARE ISSUING DEBT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS TO DO LARGER SCALE PROJECTS.
THAT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU STILL HAVE TO DO THE SINGLE AUDIT IF YOU'VE SPENT MORE THAN 750.
>> WHEN YOU SAY THE WORD APPROPRIATE, IS THERE FURTHER CLARIFICATION IN TERMS OF WHAT IS MEANT BY APPROPRIATE?
>> SURE, THERE'S THE O&B COMPLIANCE SUPPLEMENT.
HAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM, THE CSL FUNDS YOU CAN USE FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
THERE REALLY ISN'T THAT LIMITED GUIDANCE ON WHAT YOU CAN OR CAN'T SPEND IT ON.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE A LOT OF CITIES, THERE'S DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE A LOT MORE SPECIFIC, LIKE MUST BE SPENT ON A WATER PROJECT.
THIS ISN'T LIKE THAT YOU WILL STILL HAVE TO QUARTERLY REPORT YOUR ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES OF THOSE FUNDS OR ANNUALLY, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THOSE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE O&B COMPLIANCE SUPPLEMENT, YOU CAN SEE ELIGIBLE USES.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, IT JUST HAS TO BE ALLOCATED BY THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 24.
NOT NECESSARILY SPENT, SO YOU JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A PROJECT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND IT ON.
>> WHEN YOU SAY ALLOCATED, WE JUST HAVE TO ALLOCATE.
>> DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER HERE, MISS LYNCH?
>> YES. LET ME FOLLOW UP ON MS. KNOBS QUESTION OF ALLOCATED VERSUS SPENT.
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IF I ALLOCATE OR IF I APPROPRIATE SAY THE 1.2 MILLION TO BE SPENT BUT I ONLY SPEND HALF OF IT IN A YEAR.>> ASSUMING THAT'S YOUR ONLY SOURCE OF FEDERAL FUNDS.
WE HAVE TO REMEMBER ANY OTHER SOURCE OF FEDERAL FUNDS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY SMALLER GRANTS, THAT WOULD COUNT AS AN EXPENDITURE OF FEDERAL FUNDS AND TOWARDS YOUR 750.
>> YES. THE OTHER QUESTION I GUESS ON THE 1.2 MILLION AS FAR AS ALLOCATING IT AND SIMILAR HERE EXPEND DOES THERE HAVE TO BE A CONTRACT IN PLACE IN FACT TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND AND THEREFORE WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS OR JUST ALLOCATE MEAN THAT WE'VE BUDGETED IT.
>> I THINK MANY OF OUR CITIES ARE TAKING IT TO MEAN BUDGETED.
THEY HAVE A PROJECT IN MIND AND THEY'RE BUDGETING FOR IT.
>> MS. KNOBS, I HAD A DIFFERENT UNRELATED QUESTION, AND GOING BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL SLIDE PRESENTATION WHERE YOU COVERED THE $15 MILLION OF, I GUESS, MONIES THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR SPENDING, COULD YOU JUST RESTATE.
>> UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION OF THE CITY AS $15 MILLION.
>> OH, YEAH. THAT'S JUST WHAT'S NOT RESTRICTED FOR OTHER PURPOSES LIKE DEBT SERVICE OR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THAT'S JUST ESSENTIALLY AMOUNTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN INVESTED IN CAPITAL ASSETS OR FORMALLY RESTRICTED, SURE.
>> AT THIS TIME, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> COUNSEL. I WILL CALL FOR A MOTION.
>> MADAM MAYOR. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE ANNUAL AUDIT REPORT AS PRESENTED? THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE ANNUAL AUDIT REPORT AS PRESENTED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THANK YOU, THAT WAS VERY GOOD.
[5. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. 865 AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES AND APPROVING AMENDMENT(S) TO THE FY 2023-2024 OPERATING BUDGET. [2 new employees]]
ITEM NUMBER 5.CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 865, AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES AND APPROVING AMENDMENTS TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 2024, OPERATING BUDGET REGARDING TWO NEW EMPLOYEES, AND I'M GOING TO START WITH GRANT.
>> I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF COVER THE POSITIONS FIRST OR IF YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH WHAT THE DOLLAR, WHICHEVER WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT AS FAR AS THE POSITION WOULD, WHEN YOU'LL WANT TO SPEAK MORE TO THE POSITIONS, MAYBE, AND I'LL HANDLE THE BUDGET SIDE OF IT?
>> WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS THE CITY IS ASKING FOR TWO NEW POSITIONS.
ONE WILL BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO ASSIST GARY.
THE OTHER IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO HELP LUKE.
I'M GOING TO GET THIS RIGHT AND AMY AND FLOATING AROUND AS NEED BE.
WE ARE SNOWED, WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP UP AND GET EVERYTHING DONE AND DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.
A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE MUD AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES IN ON THAT BECAUSE THAT TAKES AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME.
WE HAVEN'T HIRED A NEW PERSON IN 2.5 YEARS, THREE YEARS.
>> WE HAVE ADDED POSITION AND THAT WAS THE LAST POSITION WE ADDED, SO IT'S 2.5 YEARS NOW.
>> FOUR YEARS BUT WE'VE ADDED NUMEROUS PEOPLE TO OUR POPULATION.
WE'RE PROVIDING MORE SERVICES. WE NEED HELP.
SINCE WE DIDN'T BUDGET WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET SESSION, WE ARE NOW ASKING FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO BE DONE.
SO WE WILL HAVE THE FUNDS TO ADD TWO ADDITIONAL PERSONS AND GRANT WILL TALK ABOUT THAT.
>> AS FAR AS A BUDGET IMPACT, THIS IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION HIRING ON APRIL 1, WHICH WOULD BE JUST SIX MONTHS INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR,
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THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FUNDED.YOU CAN SEE IN THE GENERAL FUND IT WOULD BE ABOUT A $30,000 IMPACT.
IN THE WATER FUND, IT WOULD BE THE SAME.
IT'D BE A $30,000 IMPACT, AND THAT WOULD BE ASSUMING FUNDS WOULD BE COMING FROM THE EXISTING FUND BALANCE.
>> OKAY. QUESTIONS. MISS LYNCH.
>> YES, MADAM MAYOR. QUESTION. ARE THERE JOB DESCRIPTIONS FOR THESE POSITIONS?
>> THERE ARE FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT FOR LUKE AND AMY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND THE ONE FOR ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S OLD. AN UPDATED ONE HASN'T BEEN DONE BECAUSE UNTIL WE KNEW WE WOULD HAVE A POSITION THAT WASN'T CREATED.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.
UNLESS YOU COME UP HERE AND SEE HOW BUSY WE ARE, I DON'T THINK SOMETIMES YOU APPRECIATE WE'VE GOT EMPLOYEES THAT ARE WEARING THREE DIFFERENT HATS.
I'LL USE JACKSON AS AN EXAMPLE.
ANNA DEALS WITH THE CONTRACTORS.
ANNA IS THE ONE THAT SPEAKS SPANISH, SO SHE GETS PULLED INTO COURT TO DO INTERPRETING.
ANNA BACKS UP PAT, WHEN SHE'S OUT.
ALMOST ALL OF THE PEOPLE UP HERE ARE LIKE THAT.
BUT GARY HAS A LOT OF PAPERWORK THAT HE'S REQUIRED TO DO.
HE'S GOT TO DO REPORTS FOR TCEQ, OUR FAVORITE AGENCY.
HE HAS TO DO WATER REPORTS, HE HAS TO DO STORM WATER REPORTS FOR THE FEDS.
HE CAN'T BE DOING ALL HIS PAPERWORK AND FIXING BROKEN WATER MAINS AT THE SAME TIME.
HE CAN'T RESPOND TO RESIDENTS REQUESTS FOR SERVICE WHEN HE'S OUT DEALING WITH A BROKEN WATER MAIN, HE NEEDS SOME HELP.
THAT'S WHERE BOTH OF THESE ARE COMING FROM.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS?
>> YES. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALL THREE, AMY, LUKE, AND GARY.
ON A SCALE 1-10 WHAT NUMBER WOULD YOU SAY THIS IS A NEEDED, AND HOW MUCH MORE COULD THIS INCREASE PRODUCTIVITY BY DOING THIS?
>> I SAW AMY, SHE REDACTED FOR A WEEK AND A HALF DOCUMENTS THAT SOMEONE COULD HAVE HANDLED.
YOU PAID AN ATTORNEY TO REDACT DOCUMENTS FOR A WEEK AND A HALF?
>> I COULD HAVE HAD SOMEONE, AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, LOOK THROUGH ALL MY DOCUMENTS, PULLING ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS, INSTEAD OF FOR A WEEK AND A HALF, TWO WEEKS, GOING THROUGH ALL MY DOCUMENTS, PULLING THOSE DOCUMENTS OUT OF MY STUFF SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT AND I COULD'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON OTHER THINGS WITH THE MAD, TCEQ, AND OTHER ITEMS TOO.
I KNOW GARY, HE'S BUSY ALL THE TIME.
IF YOU GO TO HIS OFFICE RIGHT NOW.
>> WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF FILING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
WE'RE WAY BEHIND ON FILING WITH A LOT OF STUFF.
WE NEED TO GET THINGS PUT BACK TO THEIR ORDER.
>> I KNOW IT'S FRUSTRATING SOMETIMES FOR Y'ALL.
YOU ASK FOR SOMETHING TO BE DONE AND WE TELL YOU, WELL, WE'LL DO IT, BUT WE CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO FIGHT TIMELINES ON THE LEGAL ISSUES AND STATE MANDATES.
IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY, WE DO.
IT'S JUST WE DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE TO DO IT AS TIMELY AS WE WOULD LIKE.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS.
WE HAVE EVALUATED, TRIED TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
WE'VE TRIED ROTATING SERVICES AROUND WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
SAME EFFECT, WE ARE JUST SNOWED.
ONE THING I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE BURNT OUT, BECAUSE THEY'RE OVERWORKED.
WE'RE GETTING READY TO LOSE ONE PERSON THAT I KNOW OF, TURNED IN HIS RESIGNATION AS I UNDERSTAND I AND IT'S SAD.
I HATE THAT, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR. MR. KERCHO.
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>> JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ONE, I GUESS I'LL JUST LAY OUT THE QUESTIONS THE WAY I GO.
FIRST, JUST ASSUMING THEY'RE BOTH FULL TIME.
TWO, LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ANTICIPATING IT'D BE ABOUT A $35,000 ANNUAL SALARY.
JUST WANT TO VERIFY THAT YOU'VE HAD THE DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY AND FEEL THAT THAT IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT TO BRING TO THE TABLE TODAY.
THREE IS REALLY FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF WORK LOCATION.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT FACILITIES AND ABILITY TO HOUSE AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DO REMOTE NOW, SO JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOUSING OF THESE TWO PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY.
LASTLY, IF YOU ALREADY HAD ANY INDIVIDUALS IN MIND.
>> DON'T HAVE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN MIND, WE WOULD FIND A PLACE TO PUT THEM.
WE'VE MANAGED TO DO THAT LIKE WHEN AMY CAME ABOUT, WE CLEARED OUT A PART OF AN AREA AND BUILT A LITTLE OFFICE THERE.
GARY MAY LOSE HIS OFFICE OR PART OF IT.
WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT AS IT COMES.
IT'S MORE IMPORTANT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THEM.
THAT'S OUR GOAL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
WILL THESE POSITIONS BE POSTED?
>> TWO, PRIOR TO POSTING, WILL THERE BE, YOU MAY NOT CALL IT A JOB DESCRIPTION, BUT A NARRATIVE OF THE FUNCTIONS OF THE JOB?
>> THERE WILL BE A JOB DESCRIPTION DONE? YES, MA'AM.
>> YES, MA'AM. LIKE I SAID, WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD TIME AND UNTIL WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A JOB TO DEVELOP A POST, WE DIDN'T TAKE THE TIME TO TO DO THE JOB DEAL.
WE DO HAVE AN OLD ONE, LIKE I SAID, THAT WE USED IN THE PAST, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD ONE FOR PUBLIC WORK, SO WE WILL HAVE TO CREATE THAT ONE FROM THE BEGINNING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY. THEN I WILL CALL FOR A MOTION.
>> MA'AM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 865 AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES AND APPROVING AMENDMENTS, THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024, OPERATING BUDGET IN REGARDS TO TO NEW EMPLOYEES.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER KERCHO AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER FECHT TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 865. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 865.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 4-0.
I THANK YOU AND THE CITY THANKS YOU.
[6. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2024-782 AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE AND/OR SERVICE OF TASERS, IN-CAR AND BODY WORN CAMERAS, AND RELATED PARTS AND ACCESSORIES FROM AXON ENTERPRISE, INC., UNDER ITS SOURCEWELL COOPERATIVE PURCHASING PRICING, AND THE EXECUTION OF NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.]
CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-782, AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OR SERVICE OF TASERS IN CAR AND BODY WORN CAMERAS AND RELATED PARTS AND ACCESSORIES FROM AXON ENTERPRISES UNDER ITS SOURCE WELL, COOPERATIVE PURCHASE, PRICING, AND THE EXECUTION OF NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.COUNCIL, WHAT THIS IS IS THIS IS EQUIPMENT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS THE BEST THERE IS TO HAVE.
CHIEF PRICE HAS WORKED HIS MAGIC TO INVESTIGATE EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT WOULD FIT PARKER, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST FOR OUR OFFICERS IN TERMS OF SAFETY, WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF AUTOMATIC REPLACEMENTS.
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I'M GOING TO ASK CHIEF PRICE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.THE COMPANY THAT WE WERE USING IS NO LONGER COMPETENT.
>> TO SAY THE LEAST. I'M BEING NICE HERE.
>> SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THE LAW PASSED THAT BODY WORN CAMERAS WOULD BE UTILIZED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE EVENT THAT THEY OPERATE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS A MAJORITY OF WHAT WE DO, WE PARTNERED WITH WATCHGUARD CAMERA SYSTEMS OUT OF ALLEN AND PURCHASED A SERVER BASED SYSTEM ALONG WITH IN CAR AND BODY WORN CAMERAS.
WAS IT LAST YEAR, MIKE, THAT MOTOROLA BOUGHT?
>> LAST YEAR MOTOROLA BOUGHT WATCHGUARD AND HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB AT KILLING THE WATCHGUARD NAME.
THEY'VE KILLED EVERY SET OF CUSTOMER SERVICE, EVERY SET OF PRODUCT REVITALIZATION, EVERYTHING THEY CAN DO TO KILL THE WATCHGUARD NAME AND PUT MOTOROLA ON IT.
IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, I GOT AN EMAIL FROM THEM ON JULY 1ST THAT SAID THAT THE EQUIPMENT WE CURRENTLY OWN IS NO LONGER SERVICEABLE AS OF JULY 31ST OF THIS SAME YEAR.
THAT LEFT US GOING, OH, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? I REACHED OUT TO THE POLICE CHIEFS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS AND ASKED FOR RECOMMENDATIONS OF CAMERA SYSTEMS IN USE THAT'S NOT MOTOROLA.
ABOUT 98% OF THEM SAID AXON IS THE WAY TO GO, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
BUT YOU GET THE ABSOLUTE BEST EQUIPMENT.
YOU GET THE ABSOLUTE BEST OF EVERYTHING.
IN THIS RESEARCH, WE DISCOVERED THAT CURRENTLY OUR BODY WORN CAMERAS TAKE UP ABOUT 9 TERABYTES OF DATA ON OUR CURRENT SERVER SYSTEM. IS THAT CORRECT, MIKE?
>> IF WE MOVED TO AXON, THEN IT WOULD GO TO A CG'S COMPLIANT CLOUD BASED STORAGE AND WE CAN MOVE EVERYTHING FROM WATCHGUARD TO THE CLOUD BASE AND THEN FREE UP NINE TERABYTES OF SPACE IN OUR CURRENT PD SERVER SYSTEM.
IT ALSO PUTS A BODY WORN CAMERA ON EVERY OFFICER, SO IT'S ISSUED TO THAT OFFICER.
IT'LL GIVE US A COUPLE SPARES IN CASE SOMETHING BREAKS.
2.5 YEARS INTO THIS VENTURE, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW EVERYBODY'S BODY CAMERAS, OTHERWISE REPLACE THEM, GET BRAND NEW.
WITH WATCHGUARD, WE WOULD HAVE TO BUY A NEW BODY CAMERA.
IT GETS AUTOMATIC STARTING OF ALL THE CAMERA SYSTEMS IF THEY REMOVE THEIR WEAPON FROM THEIR HOLSTER, FROM BOTH EITHER THE DUTY WEAPON OR THE TASER AND WILL KICK THAT CAMERA ON.
IN THAT MOMENT OF CRISIS, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT THING, IT'LL AUTOMATICALLY KICK IT ON SO YOU HAVE THAT VALUE AND SUPPORT TO THE OFFICER AND TO THE CITY AS WELL.
KIND OF REDUCING SOME LIABILITY, BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT IN THE ANNUAL AND IT ALSO IN THE SAME PACKAGE, UPGRADES OUR CURRENT TASERS FROM THE VERY OLD X26P, IS A SINGLE SHOT DEVICE TO A TASER SEVEN, WHICH IS A DUAL SHOT DEVICE.
IN THE EVENT THAT YOU END UP HAVING TO SHOOT TWICE, YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO RELOAD THE WEAPON, IT'S ALREADY THERE FOR YOU.
IT'S GOING TO INCREASE SAFETY FOR THE OFFICERS AND THE VIOLATORS.
I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION TO MAKE TO GET US A CONTRACT MOVING FORWARD THAT KEEPS OUR DATA SYSTEMS CURRENT AND OUR EQUIPMENT CURRENT AND MOVING WITH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, DATA CHANGES.
YOU BUY A COMPUTER TODAY, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXPIRED THREE MONTHS AGO, SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL HELP US KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
THE ANNUAL PRICE TAG IS $57,577.
WE ALREADY PAY TASER A LITTLE OVER 5,000 GRANT FOR THE TASERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT KEEP US RENEWED IN CARTRIDGES AND UPDATED BATTERIES AND WEAPONS.
THAT WILL NULLIFY THAT CONTRACT, OPEN A NEW CONTRACT TO KEEP US IN THE SAME PROCESS.
CURRENTLY OUR SALARY SAVINGS COULD COVER THIS YEAR'S.
THE NEXT PORTION OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD.
THE CONTRACT IS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT AND A MATTER OF FACT, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM AXON IS WATCHING US NOW.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM,
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I CAN GET HIM ON THE PHONE [LAUGHTER] AND THEN THE IT IS HERE WITH ME AS WELL IN CASE WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.MIKE, CAN YOU STAND UP? THAT'S MIKE [INAUDIBLE]. HE'S OUR IT.
>> CONTRACT IT. I DON'T THINK HE'S EVER BEEN TO A COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE.
>> I ASKED HIM TO BE HERE BECAUSE FIVE DOLLAR QUESTIONS ARE ABOVE MY HEAD, SO I NEEDED HIS EXPERTISE.
>> COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF PRICE? TODD.
>> YES. ON THE 57,000 THAT'S AN ANNUAL AND IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, CORRECT?
>> DOES THAT GO UP AT ALL OR IS IT A FLAT?
>> IT STAYS FLAT THOSE FIVE YEARS.
IT'S A GUARANTEED, THAT'S THE PRICE FOR FIVE YEARS.
AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS, WE MAY HAVE THE COST OF LIVING GOING UP AND THOSE NUMBERS WILL, I'M SURE, GO UP A LITTLE BIT AS WE GO ALONG.
BUT IT GUARANTEES US FOR FIVE YEARS TO HAVE CAMERAS AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY AT ABOUT SIX WITH WATCHGUARD, SEVEN MAYBE.
>> IN THAT FIVE YEARS, IT'S NEW ONES EVERY TWO YEARS, WAS THAT CORRECT?
>> NEW BODY CAMERAS EVERY 2.5 YEARS.
THEY WILL COME AND INSTALL THE CAR CAMERAS.
ONCE ALL THAT EQUIPMENT IS, THEY WILL COME IN AND TAKE OUT THE OLD CAMERAS THAT MOST OF WHICH ARE FALLING APART AND DYING AND WE CAN'T GET WATCHGUARD TO FIX.
THEN THEY WILL INSTALL THAT AS PART OF THIS AND THEN EVERY 2.5 YEARS, A NEW BODY CAMERAS, SO TO ENSURE THOSE ARE UP AND FUNCTIONING.
>> OKAY. MISS NOE. MISS LYNCH.
>> I'M HONESTLY STILL TRYING TO PROCESS.
YEAH, THAT'S QUITE A LARGE ADDITION AS FAR AS I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE EQUIPMENT WISE, WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR.
>> A LARGE PORTION OF IT IS DYING.
WE'RE LIMPING IT THROUGH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOWN TO FIVE BODY CAMERAS TO ROTATE OR SIX BODY CAMERAS TO ROTATE THROUGH THE FORCE.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THEM IN THE SHOP THAT NEEDED A SD CARD THAT THEY ACTUALLY GAVE ME WHEN THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BECAUSE WE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GUY IN THE SHOP AT WATCH GUARD.
>> OKAY. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] I DON'T RECALL HOW MUCH.
YEAH, WE WE PAID FOR THOSE BODY CAMS AT THAT TIME.
BUT IT I GUESS THAT'S PART OF THAT'S HOW WE HAVEN'T AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT TECHNOLOGY REPLACEMENT PLAN.
BUT SPEAKING OF WHAT'S HERE TODAY, WE'RE TALKING BASICALLY AN ADDITIONAL $52,000 THIS YEAR.
WELL, $57,000 BUDGET IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FIVE YEARS.
WHETHER WE CAN ABSORB IT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, IT DON'T I'M NOT SURE IT MATTERS TO ME BECAUSE WE'RE SIGNING A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT.
WE'RE REALLY COMMITTING TO FIVE YEARS AND THAT'S ARE THERE ANY OTHER VENDORS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES OR IS THERE A LESSER? I WANT OUR POLICE PEOPLE TO BE SAFE FOR SURE.
>> OKAY. I'M GOING TO LET CHIEF PRICE TALK ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS.
I WILL SAY THIS BECAUSE I WAS KIND OF LIKE YOU WERE WHEN THIS CAME PRESENTED TO ME.
ONE, I REALLY LIKE THE STORAGE ON THE CLOUD BECAUSE IF WE GOT, SAY, AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST AND WE HAD TO BRING SOMETHING BACK, THEY WILL EVEN REDACT IT FOR US.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND STAFF HOURS LIKE AMY JUST DID DOING THAT.
ON THE BODY CAMS RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR EVERY OFFICER TO HAVE THEIR OWN.
WE HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE WE HAD PERSONNEL WORKING OFF DUTY JOBS AND THEY COULDN'T WEAR A BODY CAM BECAUSE OUR ON DUTY OFFICERS HAD THEM ALL.
I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT BODY CAMS COME ON THE MINUTE ANYTHING HAPPENS, SO THE OFFICER CAN'T SAY, OH, GEE, I FORGOT TO TURN MINE ON.
IN THE HEAT OF A SITUATION THAT MAY BE A VERY TRUE STATEMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT FOCUSED ON TURNING ON YOUR CAMERA, YOU'RE FOCUSED ON WHAT'S EVER COMING UP.
IS IT EXPENSIVE? YES. IT'S ALSO A RECRUITING TOOL.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME NEW OFFICERS TO COMPLETE
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OUR DEPARTMENT AND ITS IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD EQUIPMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THANKS FOR THE INTERVIEW.I'M GOING ON TO MURPHY WILEY, PICK A PLACE.
OKAY. NOW, KENNY, WOULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THE OTHER OPTIONS?
>> I DID REACH OUT TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT VENDORS, ONE OF WHICH CAME SECONDLY RECOMMENDED TO AXON WAS A COMPANY CALLED LENS LOCK.
THEY DO PROVIDE SIMILAR FEATURES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TASERS, NOTHING IN THAT.
THEY WERE ABOUT $12,590 MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THIS PROGRAM.
THE OTHER CAMERAS THAT WAS MENTIONED WERE NAMES THAT I'VE NEVER HEARD OF.
MOST OF THEM WOULD BE A PRODUCT TO BE SHIPPED FROM CHINA IF WE NEEDED A REPLACEMENT.
NOBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE USE OF IT.
THROUGH THE RESEARCH THAT I DID THROUGH THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS WE HAVE SOME AGENCIES AROUND HERE THAT USE AXON.
THIS ONE CAME THE MOST RECOMMENDED AND THE MOST LOGICAL FOR OUR DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT NOT ONLY GOT THEM THE CAMERAS, YOU GOT THEM UPDATED EQUIPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IT GOT A NEW MORE STATE OF THE ART EQUIPMENT FOR SAFETY CONCERNS AS WELL.
>> THEY HAVE 24/7 SUPPORT FOR OUR OFFICERS?
>> ABSOLUTELY, 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
THEY CAN CALL A PHONE NUMBER AND REACH A PERSON THAT WILL HELP THEM IF THEY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT.
>> OKAY. THEY REPLACE ANY MALFUNCTIONING EQUIPMENT AT NO CHARGE?
>> NO CHARGE. IF ONE OF THE OFFICERS IS IN A SCUFFLE IN THE STREET AND THEIR CAMERA GETS KNOCKED OFF AND SOME CAR COMES DRIVING BY 30 SECONDS LATER AND RUNS OVER IT, AXONS GOING TO SEND THEM A NEW CAMERA. NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
>> OKAY. MR. KIRK, HOW I DON'T THINK WE ASKED YOU IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS.
>> I DO. YOU GOT A BIG LONG PIECE OF PAPER.
[LAUGHTER] I'M READY, RANDY. GO AHEAD.
>> JUST A COUPLE. ONE IS I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND.
WELL, I'LL JUST ASK YOU IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
ONE QUESTION IS FROM A BUDGETING PERSPECTIVE, JUST KIND OF GET AN IDEA IN MY HEAD AS TO I KNOW THAT CHEAP PRICE THAT WE'VE PURCHASED THE CAMERAS BEFORE.
I DIDN'T LOOK BECAUSE I DIDN'T COULDN'T FIND WHERE WE WERE REALLY SPENDING THE MONEY.
BUT DO WE HAVE ANY MONEY AND REPLACEMENT OF THOSE? BECAUSE WE KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO BE COMING UP TO BE SOMEWHAT NON USABLE.
THAT'S A QUESTION 1, JUST TO GET A HAND AROUND BUDGET AS TO HOW MUCH MORE WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING THAN WHAT WE'VE CURRENTLY GOT IN THE BUDGET.
SECONDLY, I COUNT AS I WENT THROUGH THE INVOICES, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A FEW PLACES THAT SAY QUANTITY 6.
THERE ARE A FEW PLACES THAT SAY QUANTITY 12 AS TO WHAT WE'RE EQUIPPING AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WE ARE EQUIPPING.
THIRD IS THAT IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN OBTAINING ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE ARE OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, HOW DOES THAT WORK HAS BECOME A NEW PRICE, OR THIS PRICE BASICALLY STAYS WHATEVER CALCULATES OUT TO BE PER UNIT AS WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD SOMEBODY?
>> OKAY. I'M GOING TO ASK GRANT TO PLEASE ADDRESS THE BUDGET ISSUE AND THEN KENNY IF YOU'LL ADDRESS THE REST.
>> FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE PART BUDGET BODY CAMERAS, WE HAVE TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION.
THE TECHNOLOGY REPLACEMENT FOCUSED ON COMPUTERS AND RADIOS.
THE FOCUS OBVIOUSLY FOR THAT AS FAR AS THE VEHICLES SYSTEM AND ALL THAT, THAT'S TYPICALLY BUT FOR THE REPLACEMENT FUND.
WHENEVER WE GET THE VEHICLE, IT BECOMES COMPREHENSIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT GOES INSIDE THE SPORTS CAMERAS IN THE VEHICLE, EVERYTHING ELSE IS INCLUDED IN THE REPLACEMENT.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, FOR BODY CAMERAS, WE REALLY HAVE IT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET.
IT'S NOT REALLY ACCOUNTING FOR ANY BODY, FOCUSING ON COMPUTERS.
>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHERE IT'S IN THE QUOTE WHERE YOU GET SIX AND 12.
THE SIX QUOTES OUT THE CAMERAS FOR THE CARS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY ALLOTTED SIX PATROL UNITS OR SIX UNITS AND THOSE WILL BE THE SIX CAMERAS THAT GO TO THAT.
THE 12 CAMERAS IS WHAT WE ARE ALLOTTED FOR OFFICERS AND CURRENTLY, THAT WOULD GIVE US THREE OR FOUR OVERAGE OF THAT.
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I'LL HAVE TO HAVE THEM ADJUST THAT NUMBER.BUT WE PLANNED OUT TO GO TO WHERE WE WERE FULL AT 12 OFFICERS FOR THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
THEN IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO CHANGE AFTER OR DURING THAT TIME, I WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND YOU COULD DETERMINE WHETHER YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT AS A NECESSITY OR NOT.
MY CURRENT POSITION ON PATROL, WHEN I'M NOT WORKING PATROL, IF WE HAD TO HAVE AN EXTRA CAMERA, I COULD USE MINE FOR ONE OF THOSE OFFICERS THERE BECAUSE OUR BUILDING HAS CAMERAS IN THEM.
BUT WE'VE ALLOTTED FOR HOW MANY OFFICERS WERE ALLOTTED AND THEN THREE SPARES.
>> YOU ALLOTTED FOR THREE OFFICERS OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD?
>> YES. WE ALLOTTED FOR 15 CAMERAS.
THAT GIVES ONE IF SHOULD ONE OF THOSE CAMERAS GET RUN OVER TONIGHT AND WE'LL WAIT ON AXON ACT TO SEND US A NEW ONE.
THEY HAVE ONE HERE TO USE SO NOBODY'S WITHOUT A CAMERA, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THEM BEING REPLACED, I THINK YOU HAD MADE A COMMENT EARLIER THAT SAID WATCH CARD THAT WE WERE MAYBE REPLACING CAMERAS EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS. DID I HEAR THAT WRONG?
>> NO. IN THIS PARTICULAR QUOTE, THEY WILL REPLACE THE BODY CAMERAS EVERY 2.5 YEARS.
>> HOW LONG WERE WE KEEPING THE ONES FROM WATCHGUARD?
>> SINCE WE MADE THAT PURCHASE, SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO.
WE'VE ONLY HAD TO REPLACE ONE THAT I REMEMBER, AND AT THAT TIME THAT CAMERA WAS $6,000.
>> FROM THE TWO-YEAR REPLACEMENT, JUST SO I GET IT, OBVIOUSLY, APRIL 2024 WHEN IT WOULD START, YOU'D GET ALL NEW EQUIPMENT.
THEN APRIL 2026, THEY'D REPLACE IT.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE APRIL, BUT TWO YEARS FROM WHEN IT TAKES EFFECT BECAUSE ONCE Y'ALL'S DECISION IS MADE TONIGHT AND WE DECIDE TO DO IT, THEN ONCE WE GET THE [INAUDIBLE] SO IT MAY BE MIDDLE OF MAY BEFORE IT HITS AND GETS FULL OF.
WHENEVER THAT START DATE WHEN THEY COME HERE WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND WE STARTED UP, THEN FROM THAT DAY 2.5 GOING FORWARD WOULD BE IT.
>> THEN IS THERE ANY TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED IN AXON THAT BASICALLY AS WE ADOPT AXON, WOULD WE BE DOING ANYTHING WITHIN THE FORCE OR OUR ID OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE THAT BASICALLY WOULD SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOW IN BED WITH AXON BECAUSE OUR SYSTEMS ARE NOW BUILT AROUND AXON?
>> OUR CAMERA SYSTEM WOULD BE BUILT AROUND AXON.
WE WOULD BE IN THE SAME SHAPE THAT WE WERE IN WITH WATCHGUARD BECAUSE NOW OUR CAMERA IS ALL DOWNLOAD TO THE SERVER WHICH IS A WATCHGUARD-PERFORMED SERVER.
SAME THING WOULD HAPPEN WITH AXON.
THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE TWO SYSTEMS IS WE HELD THE WATCHGUARD IN HOUSE, AND WITH THE AXON, IT'S OUT IN THE CLOUD.
IF WE DECIDED FIVE YEARS FROM NOW TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT COMPANY IN A DIFFERENT CLOUD, WE COULD TAKE THAT CLOUD AND MOVE IT OVER AND THEN MIKE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO GETTING INTO THE SYSTEM.
BEING ABLE TO ENSURE THAT IT'S ALL THERE.
WE GET CHANNELED IN THE CORRECT WAYS.
WATCHGUARD DOES NOT ALLOW US TO REDACT.
WE'VE, UP TO THIS POINT, HAVE BEEN DESCENDING A DEAL TO THE AG GOING, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE REDACTION SOFTWARE, BUT THE LAW CHANGED THIS YEAR AND WE CAN NO LONGER DO THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO REDACT VIDEO, AND THIS PROGRAM THAT WE'RE MOVING INTO WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
>> MAYBE ONE LAST QUESTION IS THAT, FROM PREVIOUS IT EXPERIENCES IS THAT SOMETIMES WHEN SOMEONE ELSE KEEPS YOUR IT DATA, CLOUD OR WHATEVER, AND YOU END THE RELATIONSHIP FOR WHATEVER REASON, SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THEM EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY AND IT COULD BE DELAYED, ET CETERA, AND IT BECOMES A BIG FIGHT.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN OUR CONTRACT THAT BASICALLY SAYS IF WE END OUR AGREEMENT WITH AXON, THEY HAVE X AMOUNT OF TIME TO PROVIDE US WITH THE NINE TERABYTES OF DATA?
>> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THROUGH THE [INAUDIBLE] PROGRAM, SAYS THEY HAVE TO WHETHER THEY WANT TO OR NOT.
SO YES, THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS WE WILL GET IT AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MANDATES BY LAW THAT WE GET IT.
>> MISS NOE, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
>> LUKE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
>> I WILL SAY IF WE GO MOTOROLA, YOU PAY FOR THE NAME.
[LAUGHTER] ANYTHING THAT YOU HAD MOTOROLA'S NAME TO JUST ADD ZEROS TO IT.
THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS.
AXON IS WIDELY USED IN THE PROFESSION RIGHT NOW.
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I KNOW WE'VE TAKEN VEHICLES OVER THERE, TURNED THEM OVER IN LESS THAN TWO HOURS AND NOW WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.I FEEL BAD. WE HAD A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
WE DID PILOT PROGRAMS WITH THEM.
SAD TO SEE THAT GO, REALLY SAD BECAUSE IT WAS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
>> THE LAST TIME I TOOK A CAR TO THEM TO HAVE A WATCH BATTERY CHANGED IN THE SYSTEM SO THAT IT WOULD STAY CONNECTING TO THE SERVER AND THE CAR CAMERA AND THE BODY CAMERA WOULD STAY CONNECTED.
IT TOOK THEM FIVE DAYS TO PUT A WATCH BATTERY IN THE CAR.
WE WERE ALREADY DOWN TO THREE CARS AND THEY TOOK ONE OF THOSE FOR FIVE DAYS TO PUT A WATCH BATTERY.
>> YES. I HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
ONE WITH RESPECT TO THE SERVER.
ARE THERE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR BACK UP OF THEIR SERVERS SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN? ARE THEY MAINTAINING BACK UP OF THE SERVER? COME ON UP, MIKE.
>> COME ON UP, MR. [INAUDIBLE]
>> I WILL LET MIKE ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
[LAUGHTER] WAY ABOVE MY FAVORITE.
>> BECAUSE IT'S A CLOUD-BASED SYSTEM, WE HAVE ACCESS TO EVERYTHING.
NOW, THE PART OF IT, THEY DO DO THEIR OWN BACKUPS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE DATA TO DO OUR OWN BACKUPS IF WE WANTED TO.
IT WOULD EVEN FOLLOW UP IF YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING THE DATA AT ANY POINT, WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO IT IF WE WANTED TO BE DOING A DOUBLE BACKUP TO ANOTHER LOCATION.
>> DOES THEIR PROCESS INCLUDE REGULAR BACKUPS OF THEIR SERVERS?
>> NOT ONLY THAT, IT ALSO INCLUDES REDUNDANCY.
>> MIKE, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE [INAUDIBLE] PART OF IT, CORRECT?
>> THE SECOND QUESTION ISN'T TECHNOLOGY.
>> IT RELATES TO THE VEHICLES AND THE CAMERAS IN THE VEHICLES.
IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE WILL BE SIX CAMERAS FOR THE CARS AND I HEARD YOU SAY EVERY 2.5 YEARS THE BODY CAMS WOULD BE CHANGED OUT, BUT THE CAMERAS IN THE CARS, WHAT'S THE ROTATION OF THAT? IF WE SOLD THE CAR, WOULD THAT LESSEN THE PRICE OF OUR CARS? [LAUGHTER]
>> NO, IF WE SELL A CAR, WE ALWAYS REMOVE ALL OF THAT EQUIPMENT ANYWAY BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO.
I'M ON THE HOOK FOR A CRIMINAL CHARGE IF SOMEBODY USED IT TO DO SOMETHING BAD.
WE REMOVE ALL OF THAT EQUIPMENT.
THOSE CAMERAS ARE UPDATED THROUGH THE CLOUDS ON A REGULAR BASIS WHERE THE BODY CAMS WOULD HAVE NOT BE AND THAT BODY CAM TECHNOLOGY IS WHAT'S BEING IMPROVED REGULARLY.
THEN THE CAR CAMERAS IS PRETTY MUCH A STATED SET THING, AND SO THOSE WOULD NOT BE REPLACED EVERY 2.5 YEARS, BUT THEY ARE GETTING UPDATES THROUGH THE SYSTEM ALWAYS, CONTINUALLY IF I'M CORRECT, MIKE?
>> THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THOSE CAR CAMERAS STAYED UP TO DATE AND THEN WHEN WE BUY A NEW CAR, THAT CAMERA WILL JUST COME OUT OF THAT AND MOVE TO THE NEXT.
OR IF WE NEEDED UPDATED EQUIPMENT THAT AXON WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
>> MR. FECHT, ANY QUESTIONS? MISS NOE, ANY QUESTIONS? MR. KERCHO? MISS LYNCH? THANK YOU, CHIEF PRICE AND MR. [INAUDIBLE] AT THIS TIME I WOULD TAKE A MOTION.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THE MOTION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KERCHO TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-782 AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOE.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-782, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO. THANK YOU.
NOT ONLY DO I THANK YOU, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THANKS YOU, MR. FECHT, IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE.
[LAUGHTER] AT THIS TIME WE WILL GO TO UPDATES.
[7. UPDATE(S)]
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2551, MR. OLSON AND MR. MACHADO.>> IT'S REALLY WET OUT THERE [LAUGHTER] AND I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM OUT THERE WORKING, SO THAT'S ALL I GOT.
>> NO PROGRESS ON [INAUDIBLE]?.
>> NOW ASK THIS I GUESS, TO CHIEF PRICE, HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ON 2551 ON THE CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE?
>> OKAY. MR. OLSON, YOU WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT ENTERPRISE?
>> NO. I'M GOING TO CHOOSE MY WORDS WISELY HERE.
THE F150 SHOULD ARRIVE THIS WEEK.
NEXT WEEK. BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK.
>> MID TO END OF NEXT WEEK, THEY FINALLY GOT THE LAST PART IN AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THAT TO GET SHIPPED OUT TO US NOW, SO WE SHOULD HAVE THAT HERE FAIRLY SOON.
I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT AT THIS POINT.
I THINK MY MEMO TO YOU ALL KIND OF COVERED THE REST OF THAT.
>> WEBSITE, MISS LYNCH, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WEBSITE COMMITTEE?
>> THE WEBSITE COMMITTEE DID MEET LAST WEEK AND THE FORMAT OF THE WEBSITE I THINK IS IS COMING ALONG.
IDENTIFYING THE MAIN ITEMS THAT ARE TO BE ON THE HOME PAGE AND THE MAIN PAGES.
>> I WILL SAY THIS. IF ANYBODY EITHER HERE OR WATCHING HAS ANY IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS FOR OUR WEBSITE, PLEASE SEND THEM TO MR. OLSON SO THAT THE COMMITTEE CAN GET THEM AND CONSIDER THEM BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE YOUR INPUT TO MAKE THE WEBSITE AS USEFUL TO YOU AS POSSIBLE TO ME.
>> IF YOU HAVE PICTURES THAT ARE OF PARKER, PHOTOS OF JUST ANIMALS, FLOWERS,.
>> BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF PARKER.
>> BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF PARKER.
YES, MA'AM. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEM SO WE CAN HAVE THEM ROTATING.
[OVERLAPPING] WE'D PREFER NOT TO HAVE PEOPLE, SO WE HAVE TO GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF CONSENT AGREEMENTS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF THAT, BUT JUST NICE PHOTOS THAT WE CAN HAVE A ROTATING PHOTO GALLERY ON OUR WEBSITE.
>> COMP PLAN. MR. KERCHO, DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATE FOR US?
>> SURE. WE MET LAST THURSDAY.
WE DO HAVE A CURRENT DRAFT IN WHICH TO WORK WITH, AND WE TOOK THAT DRAFT AND REALLY REVIEWED IT IN REGARDS TO LOOKING AT ADJACENT CITIES TO PARKER, AS WELL AS LOOKED AT THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND LOOKED AT CITIES THAT HAD SIMILAR POPULATION AS PARKER.
PURPOSE BEING TRYING TO IDENTIFY IF THERE'S ANY SECTIONS IN THE CURRENT DRAFT THAT WE HAVE EITHER THAT WE FELT MAYBE SHOULD BE DELETED, EXCESS INFORMATION OR WAS NOT THERE AND WE FELT WE NEEDED TO ADD IT.
WE ALSO CAME UP WITH A LIST OF THINGS FROM THE CURRENT DRAFT THAT WE HAVE THAT WE FEEL NEEDS TO BE INFORMATION BROUGHT FROM THE CITY AND PROVIDED THAT TO THE CITY'S STAFF IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION FOR INCLUSION.
THE NEXT MEETING IS THIS THURSDAY AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE FIRE STATION.
>> NO REAL UPDATE BEYOND WHAT I MENTIONED AT OUR LAST MEETING EXCEPT THAT THE MATTER WAS REMANDED TO TSEC FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE AT A CIVIL COURT.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA ON HOW?
>> NO. IT WAS REMANDED FOR ADDITIONAL NOTICE PROCEDURES, SO IT'LL GO IN THE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCEDURES THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE NOTIFICATION.
>> AS FAR AS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WE DON'T HAVE SO MUCH OF AN UPDATE, BUT WE NEED TO SCHEDULE.
>> AT THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS SAID THAT THERE WERE MANY OPEN ITEMS AND UNTIL THOSE WERE WORKED ON, NO FURTHER MEETING WOULD BE SCHEDULED, SO WE'VE HAD NO NOTICE THAT THOSE ARE READY TO GO.
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>> OKAY. THEN A MEETING NEEDS TO BE SCHEDULED.
ANYTHING ELSE? I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE MONTHLY REPORTS JUST FOR A MINUTE.
EITHER ON MARCH 5TH OR MARCH 19TH, I THINK ARE OUR NEXT TWO DATES, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS AND REFRESHING THEM.
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF EVERYBODY HAS LOOKED AT THEM, IDENTIFIED WHAT THEY NEED, DON'T NEED, WHAT NEEDS TO BE REFRESHED, SO WE DON'T GO ON THIS ISSUE AND EVERYBODY'S LIKE.
HAVE AN IDEA. NEXT IS ACCEPTING OF DONATIONS FOR THE FIRE POLICE AND CITY STAFF.
[8. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $500)]
FOR THE RECORD, FIRST IS MARIA ORZAKO WHO DONATED CANDY VALUED AT $10 TO THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT.PRITI AND MOHIT MOHINDRU DONATED TACO CABANA LUNCHEON VALUED AT $40 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE LIMIS DONATED A TRAY OF COOKIES FOR CITY STAFF VALUED AT $19.98 THE LIMIS ALSO DONATED A TRAY OF COOKIES VALUED AT $20 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR DONATIONS AND TRULY DO APPRECIATE THEM.
[9. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
ARE THERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? I DID GET THE CIP. GO.>> FROM OUR LAST PARTICULAR MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT NEEDING TO ADOPT THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSION SCHEDULES, AND I ASSUME THERE'S NOT SINCE WE'RE ALREADY FOLLOWING THAT, APPARENTLY THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO BE DONE OTHER THAN ADOPTING IT.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FUTURE ITEM TO GET [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ALSO WE WERE GOING TO NOTE, WE TALKED ABOUT A COUNCIL WORKSHOP IN REGARDS TO THE PERSONNEL MANUAL.
IT'S OUT THERE SOME PLACE AS WELL?
[LAUGHTER] I COULD HAVE MISSED ONE. WE HAVE THAT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IF YOU CAN.
>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD WAS THE ENGINEERING SERVICES, JUST TO GET UPDATE AS TO WHERE WE ARE IN THE EARTH CARE.
I'M SORRY IT DIDN'T MAKE TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS THE STREET MAINTENANCE.
THE PAPERWORK JUST DID NOT GET DONE.
WE HAVE HAD GLITCHES THAT HAVE PREVENTED US LEGALLY FROM GOING FORWARD.
WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT IT WILL BE ON THE MARCH 5TH AGENDA AS WELL AS SOME INFORMATION ON ENGINEERING ON RELOCATING OF THE WATER LINE ON DUBLIN ROAD.
WE'RE HOPING THAT MR. BURKOFF WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION BACK FOR US.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS. THEN IN ADDITION, I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE REGARDING STOP SIGNS AT CREEKSIDE AND EDGEWATER.
>> YES. STOP SIGNS ON DUBLIN ROAD AT BOTH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
I'D LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE ON THOSE TWO STOP SIGNS, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE ON STOP SIGNS AT DUBLIN ROAD AND CHAPARRAL.
[BACKGROUND] CREEKSIDE ESTATES AND CHAPARRAL.
>> THAT'S NOT OUR INTERSECTION.
>> THAT'S NOT OUR INTERSECTION.
THE OTHER STOP SIGNS FOR EDGEWATER AND CREEKSIDE IS THAT RIGHT? I DON'T WRITE QUITE AS FAST AS YOU TALK. HOLD ON.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE AT ALL? IF NOT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
IT IS 8:22.
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