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>> [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] I HEREBY CALL
[CALL TO ORDER – Roll Call and Determination of a Quorum]
THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER.IT IS MARCH 14TH, 2023, AT 6:00 PM.
MR. OLSON, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM?
>> MADAM MAYOR, YOU HAVE A SUPER QUORUM.
>> AT THIS TIME WE WILL RECESS TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE
[EXECUTIVE SESSION START TO FINISH]
WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074, PERSONNEL TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE.AT THIS TIME IT'S 6:01, WE ARE IN RECESS.
AT THIS TIME, I'M RECONVENING THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING.
IT IS MARCH 14TH, 2023 AND IT IS 7:21 PM.
COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION?
>> HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON.
ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? [LAUGHTER] NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR WORKSHOP ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
[1. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN]
MR. OLSON, YOU WANT TO START US OFF?>> I'M JUST TRYING TO BRING UP EVERYTHING HERE.
IF YOU GIVE ME A COUPLE OF SECONDS.
MICHAEL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY? [LAUGHTER]
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'M GOING TO BUY SOME TIME WHILE HE PULLS THIS UP.
[LAUGHTER] EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE GENERALIZED ANSWERS FROM THE SURVEY THAT WE PUT OUT.
AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY WE RELEASED THE SURVEY THAT WE COLLECTIVELY CAME TO GATHER ON FURTHER QUESTIONS.
THERE WAS ONE POINT THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT I WAS SLIGHTLY DISAPPOINTED IN, THAT WAS SOME PEOPLE COMPLETED THE SURVEYS BEFORE IT ACTUALLY WENT OUT RATHER.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, GENERALLY SPEAKING, I FELT LIKE THE ANSWERS FELL IN LINE WITH MOST OF WHAT WE EXPECTED.
I FEEL LIKE THAT WE HAD A GENERALIZED RESPONSE ACROSS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, WHICH I HIGHLY WAS EXCITED ABOUT.
I WAS EXCITED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES WE HAD, BUT MORE SO ABOUT THE RANGES.
IF YOU LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND THE PERCENTAGES, WE HAD A LOT OF 15-PLUS YEAR RESIDENTS, AND THEN WE HAD A WAD OF 1-5 AND THEY ALMOST BALANCED EACH OTHER OUT.
WE HAD THE PERSPECTIVE OF NEW RESIDENTS AND PERSPECTIVE OF LONG-TIME EXISTING RESIDENTS.
>> HOW MANY RESPONSES DID WE RECEIVE?
>> FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE.
FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE DEFINITELY EXCEEDED OUR PRIOR SURVEY MONKEY, I THINK, WHICH HAD 12.
[LAUGHTER] NO, IT HAD MORE THAN THAT.
BUT I ALSO SEE THAT WE HAD A PLETHORA ACROSS THE COMMUNITIES WITH KINGS CROSSING COMING IN HEAVILY.
I WOULD PROBABLY THANK TERRY FOR THAT.
BUT WE DID HAVE GROUPS IN THE NEW WHITESTONE PARKER RANCH.
WE WERE SEEING BOTH THOSE AND THEN WE SAW POCO, WE SAW DUBLIN.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD RAPPORT FROM ACROSS THE CITY.
WHAT IT MADE ME AWARE OF, JUST PERSONALLY SPEAKING NOW, IS WE HAVE A LOT TO DO AS FAR AS EDUCATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I DON'T THINK THEY REALIZE, WHETHER IT'D BE WHY WE DON'T HAVE SEWER IN CERTAIN PLACES, WHICH I NOTICED WAS ONE ANSWER, THAT OUR COMPLAIN IS PERFECTLY FINE.
WHY ARE WE DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY? THERE WERE LITTLE TIDBITS THERE THAT I THINK THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE ROLES OF THE CITY.
OBVIOUSLY, DRAINAGE WAS A BIG ONE AND I NOTICED A LOT OF THAT.
I NOTICED AND IT WAS MORE THAN ONE, BUT IT WASN'T A LARGE MAJORITY MENTIONED VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES.
I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE COMMENTS THAT THEY MADE.
I SAW THAT ACTUALLY COME UP ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES, WHY DOES THE CITY NOT HAVE CITIZEN VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES? OBVIOUSLY WE DO IN CERTAIN RESPECTS, BUT MAYBE WE'RE NOT EDUCATING WELL ENOUGH.
I DID SEE WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT HOW GREAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS.
THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RATINGS OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, ACTUALLY, AFTER TALKING TO SEVERAL PEOPLE, I THINK WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF A DISSERVICE ON IT BECAUSE WE DID 1-5, ONE BEING THE HIGHEST.
I TALKED TO PEOPLE WHO SAID, YEAH, NO, I RATED EVERYTHING A FIVE, IT'S GREAT.
IF YOU DID THAT, YOU RATED EVERYTHING THE WORST.
I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON THAT.
WE DIDN'T FOLLOW A NORM AS FAR AS RATING SYSTEMS GO.
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE POLICE AND FIRE DID GREAT.
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SOME PEOPLE SAID NEWSLETTER.BUT I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, MOST PEOPLE WERE GENERALLY HAPPY IN THEIR RESPECTS.
IF YOU LOOKED AT THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE BOUGHT IN PARKER, GENERALLY THEY LIKED THE AREA OR EVEN THOUGH SOMEBODY MADE FUN OF ME, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS ANOTHER REASON THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE CHOSE WHEREVER THEY LIVED.
THAT I THINK OPENS OUR EYES TO EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES.
THE LOW DENSITY, LARGE LOTS AND THE COUNTRY ATMOSPHERE WON THE GAMBIT AS YOU'RE LOOKING THERE.
WHY THEY CHOSE PARKER, IT RAN THE GAMBIT.
BUT EITHER IT'S THE HOUSE THAT THEY WANTED, WHICH MEANS THEY WOULD HAVE BOUGHT IN LUCAS IF THAT WAS THE OPPORTUNITY OR THEY WOULD HAVE BOUGHT IN PARKER, IF THAT'S WHERE IT WAS.
BUT ONE OF ITS KNOWN ATTRIBUTES.
WE DID LEAVE THAT OUT THERE TO SAY THE LARGE LOTS, THE HORSE PROPERTY, THE COUNTRY ATMOSPHERE.
WHAT SHOULD WE ADDRESS FIRST? GENERALLY SPEAKING, WATER AVAILABILITY AND STREET IMPROVEMENTS WERE PRETTY WELL UP AT THE TOP.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND YOU LOOK AT THE PIE, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE ACROSS THE BOARD.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE RESIDENTS WANT EVERYTHING ADDRESSED.
I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY'RE TIRED OF US NOT ADDRESSING A LOT OF THESE ITEMS, AND SOME OF THAT'S GOING TO BE WITH EDUCATION.
WE DISCUSSED THE OPPORTUNITY THERE.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THESE ITEMS WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS FAR AS WHAT OUR PLANS ARE FOR THE FUTURE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS, AND WHAT DO THEY EXPECT? IN THE FUTURE COUNCILS SITTING UP HERE KNOW THAT WE HAD A PLAN ON HOW TO ADDRESS WHAT WE CAN ON DRAINAGE.
BUT STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND WATER AVAILABILITY AND RATES WE CAN'T DO A WHOLE LOT ABOUT, BUT WE NEED TO EDUCATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN ON THAT AND THAT WILL HELP IN THAT RESPECT.
THE FACILITIES, WHAT ARE WE DOING THERE? PARKS AND THE PLAYGROUND ACTUALLY GOT MORE VOTES THAN I WOULD'VE THOUGHT. NOW AND I EXPECTED THAT TO BE THE ONE ANSWER THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO THE QUESTION TYPE CHOICE.
BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING BIG.
NUMBER 4, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS WHEN YOU LOOKED AT IT, BUT THIS ONE SHOCKED ME A LITTLE BIT.
I TAKE MAYBE IS AS A YES AND I TAKE YESES AS A YES BECAUSE YES ALREADY WON.
WE HAVE AN OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF THESE PEOPLE WHO THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER LOOKING AT SMALL RETAIL.
THAT'S SOMETHING I'M GOING TO PUT THAT SEED OUT THERE TONIGHT WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO IT.
BUT I THOUGHT OVERWHELMINGLY THAT QUESTION WOULD BE NO.
WE DIDN'T PUT IT ON THEIR RESIDENTS, SURPRISED US WITH IT.
I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
THEY DID VERY MUCH STATE SMALL RETAIL.
EVEN IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OPEN-ENDED QUESTION THAT THEY COULD ADD, THERE WERE MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT COMMERCIAL, THAT THEY'D LOVE A COFFEE SHOP, THEY'D LOVE AN ICE CREAM PARLOR.
THERE WAS A TRACTOR SUPPLY, THE ONE UP THE ROAD, SO WE LOST THAT.
>> DID WE HEAR ABOUT THAT? [LAUGHTER]
>> YEAH, I KNOW. YOU LOOK AT THE RATINGS AND LIKE I SAID, THEY ALL STAYED ABOVE THE MID, WHICH IS ALL THAT WE CAN EXPECT DEPENDING ON WHO DOES IT.
I THINK AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN ALWAYS DO A BETTER JOB.
CITY ADMINISTRATION DOES BETTER THAN WE DO.
I DON'T DISAGREE. OUR EMPLOYEES DO BETTER THAN WE DO.
POLICE AND FIRE, EVERYBODY LOVES THOSE GUYS.
I THINK THAT THAT'S IT EXCEPT FOR THE ONE WHO WAS UNHAPPY ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT THE WEBSITE, IT RATED LOWER THAN WE DID SO THAT'S WIN.
THE COMMUNICATION EMAIL BLASTS, I THINK WE COULD DO BETTER ON.
COMMUNICATION NEWSLETTER, I THINK WE COULD DO BETTER ON.
IT'S NOT TO SAY WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
>> YOU'LL BE SORRY YOU SAID THAT.
>> NO, [LAUGHTER] I WON'T. I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S SAYING THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT.
I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO DO BETTER IN EDUCATION ON THESE ITEMS. I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER DOES A FABULOUS JOB WITH OUR NEWSLETTER AND HOPE SHE KEEPS IT TILL THE END OF TIME BECAUSE I WON'T TAKE THAT ONE.
THIS IS AGAIN, THAT QUESTION I WAS TALKING ABOUT, HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED IN PARKER? I FEEL LIKE WE GOT EXACTLY WHAT I WAS HOPING.
WE GOT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST MOVED HERE AND ARE STARTING THEIR FAMILIES IN PARKER, STARTING THEIR LIVES IN PARKER IS A BETTER WAY TO PHRASE THAT.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
THAT PROVIDES TWO ENDS OF A SPECTRUM.
WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THERE WERE DIRT ROADS IN PARKER, ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO MOVE FROM PLANO OR MURPHY OR HIGHLAND PARK, WHAT ARE THEY SEEING AS WELL? WE DID GET BOTH OF THOSE RESPECTS.
>> JUST ONE COMMENT THAT I THOUGHT WAS VERY TELLING AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY ENCOURAGING WAS THAT YOU SAW THE COMBINATION OF ALMOST 200 PEOPLE SO THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF PEOPLE, ARE FIVE YEARS OR LESS THAT RESPONDED TO THIS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
IN THE DEMOGRAPHIC, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, MAYBE THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE COMMERCIAL INFLUX THAT MAYBE WE'RE NOT THINKING OF WITH THE 6-16 PLUS YEAR PEOPLE.
BUT INTERESTINGLY, MANY OF THE OTHER RESPONSES, I THINK WE'RE VERY COHESIVE, WHICH WHAT WE THOUGHT.
>> I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION ON THAT.
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I WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S ALSO THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE AND ARE USED TO THE CITY FUNCTIONING WITHOUT COMMERCIAL THAT CAN'T SEE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO START FIGURING OUT OTHER WAYS TO PAY FOR STUFF.IF YOU WANT THOSE STREETS TAKING CARE OF, WE TALK ABOUT OUR DEBT CAPACITY.
EVEN IF IT TOOK 100% OF THAT, THAT WE HAVE AS DEBT CAPACITY AND I PUT IT TOWARDS ROADS. WE CAN'T.
WE'LL PUT A DENT IN THE ROAD ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.
WE'VE GOT THINGS WE'VE GOT TO PAY FOR.
I THINK THAT IT'S MUCH EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THAT TO SOMEBODY WHO'S MOVED FROM A CITY THAT HAD IT, THEN MAYBE SOME THAT HAD 16 PLUS YEARS, BUT BASED ON SOME OF THE RESPONSES THAT WE'VE HAD AND JUST BEING IN PARKER, AS LONG AS I HAVE I CAN READ SOMEBODY'S A GENERALIZED STATEMENT THAT THEY PUT IN AND SOMETIMES I CAN GUESS WHO THAT PERSON IS EVEN WITHOUT KNOWING A NAME BECAUSE IT WAS ANONYMOUS.
BUT I CAN GATHER AND I THINK WE HAD SOME LONGER-TERM RESIDENTS WHO WERE LIKE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THIS.
BUT 429 RESPONSES, I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER.
DO I THINK SOME OF THOSE PROBABLY WERE DOUBLED DIPPERS? I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE, BUT BASED ON SOMETIMES WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY'RE WITHIN A MINUTE OF EACH OTHER IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S A CHANCE. IT'S ALSO A CHANCE THEY PASS IT OFF TO SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE HOUSE.
I'M GOING TO TAKE IT AS THE STATEMENTS ARE ALL ACCURATE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANY GOOD WAY TO SCRUB IT UNLESS SOMEBODY PUT THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS IN THERE TWICE.
GENERALLY, I THINK WE ENDED UP WITH A LOT OF EMAIL ADDRESSES WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT, THE PEOPLE WHO WANT INFORMATION.
>> I REDACTED THOSE THE ONE I SENT OUT TO COUNCIL.
I DID NOT SEE ANY ONES THAT WAS DOUBLE-DIP.
>> AS FAR AS I COULD BE WRONG.
BUT WHEN I DID A CURSORY SEARCH THROUGH, I DID NOT SEE ANY ONE.
I KEPT MY EYE ON IT JUST TO SEE.
>> BUT I WILL SAY THAT IT WAS ENCOURAGING THAT MANY PEOPLE WANTED TO JOIN THE EMAIL LIST FOR THE CITY AND GET THAT INFORMATION.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE ON.
HOW MANY PEOPLE PUT THOSE IN THERE? DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY RAN? I THINK AT ONE POINT WE WERE OVER 200.
WEREN'T WE? THREE HUNDRED AND FOUR.
THREE HUNDRED AND FOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES ON THERE.
THAT'S A LOT OUT OF 400 AND SOMETHING RESPONSES TO HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO SAY, HERE'S MY EMAIL ADDRESS.
WE ONLY RECEIVED A FEW THAT SAID, WHY ARE YOU ASKING FOR AN EMAIL ADDRESS? MOST OF THEM UNDERSTOOD. AGE GROUP WAS ALSO ANOTHER INTERESTING ONE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THERE, 41-65, IT'S A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AGAIN.
IT'S A MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD AGE BRACKET.
THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE RESPONSES THAT WE RECEIVED.
WE DID RECEIVE A HEALTHY NUMBER OF 65 PLUS, AND THEN WE RECEIVED ONE UNDER 22.
THE FEAR THAT THE TEENAGERS WERE GOING TO GO IN AND MESS WITH THE SYSTEM, WELL THEY DIDN'T.
WE DID HAVE THAT BENEFIT AS WELL.
I THINK THAT TO ME, I WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THIS.
YOU KNOW AS A SIDE NOTE, I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THAT THE CITY OF PARKER CONSIDER SURVEYS MORE FREQUENTLY TO DETERMINE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY BECAUSE OUR RESIDENTS ARE WILLING TO RESPOND TO THEM AND THIS IS NEW.
>> I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD. ONE THING THAT I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON THE AGE DISTRIBUTION, JUST AS LOOKING AT DEMOGRAPHIC THINGS THAT I'VE DONE SOME OF THIS IS THAT WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT THIS AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE PRICE POINTS ARE FOR OUR HOMES AND YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE'S CURVE WITHIN THEIR SALARY RANGE IN THEIR WORK ENVIRONMENT.
I THINK THAT IS COINCIDENT WITH THE AGE AS WELL.
THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BIG TELLING DEMOGRAPHIC THERE. THAT'S A LOOK AT.
>> WITH THAT, WE DID GO ROUGHLY FOR 14 DAYS.
AT THE END OF THE 14 DAYS, WE WERE STILL GETTING ENOUGH RESPONSES THAT AS COUNCIL DISCUSSED, WE HAD THE AUTHORITIES TO EXTEND IT.
I DID REQUEST MR. OLSON EXTEND IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER TO ALLOW MORE.
WE DIDN'T GO OUT AND CONTINUALLY HOUND PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO THIS BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING STEADY RESPONSES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TIME.
I'M OVERALL VERY HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY THAT WE HAVE.
AS I SAID BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE OVERALL APPETITE OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT I THINK THAT THESE WERE GOOD MILESTONES FOR THE CITY THAT TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
THEN OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT SOMETHING WE COULD STICK WITH, THAT WE ARE HAVING TO MAKE THESE CHANGES.
BUT I THINK OVERALL PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOW PEOPLE WILL START TO GET UPDATES.
I HOPE PEOPLE WILL READ THOSE UPDATES WHEN THEY GET THEM.
GENERALLY, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE ON THE SURVEY.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL'S OPINIONS WERE OF THE RESULTS THAT WE GOT IN SINCE EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM NOW.
>> YOU WENT THROUGH THAT VERY QUICKLY [LAUGHTER] BUT YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT WAS IN THERE AND I AGREE.
I THINK IT GIVES A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHERE THINGS ARE AND IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT.
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I DON'T THINK IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT.WHICH IS GOOD. IT'S CONFIRMING WHAT WE THOUGHT OUR NEEDS WERE AS FAR AS ADDRESSING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HOW WE DO IT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT CHALLENGE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
BUT OVERALL, I WAS SUPER PLEASED WITH THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES AND THE COMMENTS TO [LAUGHTER] THE PEOPLE DID GIVE A LOT OF COMMENTS WHICH I FIND HELPFUL AND IT'S EDUCATES ME FURTHER AS TO THE RESIDENTS AND WHERE THEY ARE SO THAT AS I'M TALKING TO PEOPLE, IT HELPS ME TO THINK ABOUT HOW I RESPOND AS WELL.
REALLY LOOKED THE GRAPHS AND EVERYTHING WERE GREAT WAY TO PULL THAT TOGETHER.
>> I WILL HAVE TO GIVE MICROSOFT ALL THE CREDIT ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S YOU PUT THOSE GRAPHS TOGETHER.
[LAUGHTER] TO ADD THIS SURVEY IT WASN'T DIFFICULT AT ALL FOR ME BECAUSE LOOKED AT MOST OF IT.
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I DON'T THINK IT IS A HARD TOOL FOR US TO UTILIZE FOR THAT EDUCATION, FOR THAT TRANSPARENCY, TO GET THAT.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THEM ON HERE LIKE I SAID, THAT WERE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE SOMEBODY WAS IN PARKER RANCH AND SAID FIXED DUBLIN ROAD, WHICH I HIGHLY APPRECIATE I LIVE OFF OF DUBLIN ROAD, BUT IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT POINTS THAT THEY CARED ABOUT.
WE HAD ONE THAT SAID FIREWORKS SHOULD BE LEGAL IN PARKER.
THESE ARE JUST RANDOM THOUGHTS SO YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT A RESIDENT HAS.
I DO IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THROUGH ALL OF THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS, I RECOMMEND IT. IT'S WORTH A GOOD READ.
>> I DON'T THINK I GOT THE COMMENTS I RECEIVED THE-.
>> IT WAS ON THE SURVEY THAT PATTY SENT OUT.
THERE WAS AN EXCEL ON FRIDAY, SO SHE SENT IT OUT.
IT ACTUALLY HAS MORE REDACTIONS IN IT, BUT IT HAS THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> I SENT ONE FILE OUT WITH AN EXCEL AND THEN ONE WE'RE JUST WITHIN GENERAL.
>> PATTY RECENT. THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO SET THE AGENDA.
IT'S AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT SHOULD BE WITH THE AGENDA THAT YOU RECEIVED ON FRIDAY, BUT IT ACTUALLY HAS THE DETAILED RESPONSES ON THERE SO YOU CAN READ.
HOPEFULLY, IF YOU DIDN'T GET IT, I'M SURE THAT YOU CAN GET IT.
BECAUSE I DO THINK IT IS WORTH IT.
IT'S WORTH A READ BECAUSE THERE'S SOME INTERESTING THINGS AND I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THESE THINGS WE ARE ALREADY ADDRESSING, WHICH HAS BEEN AMAZING, SUCH AS NO BIG TRUCKS ON THROUGH STREETS.
WE'VE ALREADY STARTED APPROACHING THAT.
ONE COMMENT WAS GREAT CITY NEEDS SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE COFFEE SHOPS.
THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THEM LIKE THAT.
I THINK TO BE EFFICIENT IN WHAT WE DO NEXT, THESE ARE SOME GREAT COMMENTS TO HAVE.
WITH THAT THE OTHER THING THAT I'M GOING TO DISCUSS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE NEXT STEPS ON IT NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS HAS BEEN WORKING ON REDRAFTING AND I WILL TAKE NO CREDIT FOR THAT BECAUSE SHE'S ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON RETYPING SOME SECTIONS AND PUTTING THEM IN THERE.
BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO START DISCUSSING THE C WORD AND THAT'S COMMERCIAL.
I THINK WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE END OF THIS AND NOT HAVE IT DONE.
I DID ASK THE LAST TWO MEETINGS FOR PEOPLE TO START GIVING YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO TO DRAFT A SEGMENT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGARDING COMMERCIAL IN PARKER.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IF ANYBODY HAS DONE THAT OR GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO WHAT YOUR OPINIONS ARE.
>> THE ONE CONCERN THAT I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IS THAT ONCE YOU OPEN THAT DOOR, YOU CAN'T SHUT IT SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER HAS TO BE WELL THOUGHT THROUGH AND IT NEEDS TO HAVE PARAMETERS BUILT AROUND IT THAT, THAT LATER ON, WE DON'T WIND UP WITH HOME DEPOT OR WALMART OR WHATEVER.
>> WHEN WE ACQUIRE THOSE ACRES THAT ARE COMMERCIALS.
THE COUNCIL THEN SPECIFIED CERTAIN THINGS LIKE COULD BE DO WE HAVE THAT LIST? THAT COULD BE A GUIDELINE.
>> IT'S WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE ISSUE IS THE PROPERTY THAT YOU WOULD DO COMMERCIAL PRIMARILY RIGHT NOW IS IN THE ETJ SO YOU NEEDED WORKOUT, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SO THOSE DEVELOPERS WOULD HAVE TO WORK.
YOU'D HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM TO FIGURE THOSE PARAMETERS OUT.
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I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE WILL.I DON'T KNOW IF A DEVELOPER WOULD WORK WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
LUKE, THERE IS OTHER LAND IN PARKER TOO THAT COULD AND I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER WHAT MY CONCERN IS IF WE DON'T HAVE THE WALLS TO WORK WITHIN, FUTURE COUNCILS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE WERE THINKING AND WHAT THE RESIDENTS WERE THINKING AND THEN WE END UP WITH AN AVERAGE OF ONE ACRE LOTS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS NOT AT ALL THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WAS INTENDED AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO SET THAT GUY'S IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT LAND WILL EVENTUALLY BE ZONED THAT BECAUSE SOMEBODY CAN ALWAYS MAKE THE APPLICATION ONCE WE HAVE THAT OPEN AND COUNCILS CAN REVIEW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
>> DO WE HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE THE BUCKET LAND IS? NOT PARTICULARLY HOW IT SOUNDS [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE ETJ MAP WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST IDEAL.
LIKE JUST GOING BACK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HARD CORNER WITH HOGAN PARKER ROAD HERE PRETTY SOON.
THAT'S GOING TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT THOSE TRIP COUNTS.
I THINK YOU'RE GETTING OVER 50,000 TRIPS A DAY SO YOU'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE GETTING PEOPLE LOOKING AT THAT INTERSECTION VERY, VERY HARD FOR COMMERCIAL.
I'LL JUST BE UPFRONT AND HONEST WITH YOU, JUST BASED ON NUMBERS AND VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC, LOCATION, EVERYTHING THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT AT SOME POINT.
THE PROBLEM IS IN THE ETJ SO YOU HAVE VERY LIMITED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITHIN THERE.
THEY SET FALSE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ON THAT.
>> WE DID GET SOME YEARS AGO, A DEVELOPER THAT WAS INTERESTED IN PUTTING A RACE TRACK AT HOGAN AND PARKER.
>> WELL, SO I'M GOING TO TAKE A DIFFERENT OPINION HERE IS FROM WHAT I'VE LEARNED IN MY EDUCATION ON COUNCIL, WHICH HAS BEEN AMAZING, IS THAT ULTIMATELY IN THE ETJ, IF THEY WANT IT, IT'S GOING TO COME AND THEN FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, EVEN IF IT'S AN ETJ, IT'S IN PARKER, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE TO OVERLOOK IT.
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT, BUT WE GET NO BENEFIT FROM IT SO LOOKING AT THE ABILITIES TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE FUTURE, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM ANYWAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH CERTAIN COMMERCIAL LINES THAT ARE THERE, WE SHOULD MAKE IT ENTICING TO A POINT TO DIRECT THAT IN SOME WAY AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS HAS TO BE, BUT IT HAS TO BE A FRAMEWORK TOO.
TO ME I UNDERSTAND AND I REVIEWED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THAT COMMERCIAL A WHILE BACK AND I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE OPTIONS, BUT VERY LIMITED OPTIONS ON THINGS THAT WILL GAIN REVENUE FOR THE CITY BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT SALES TAX-BASED BUSINESSES.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WAS CONSIDERING BACK THEN SO WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT.
OTHER THAN PROPERTY, WHAT BENEFIT DOES IT PROVIDE BEING IN THE CITY OF PARKER? I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO START ADDRESSING AND IT'S GOING TO BE A MUCH LONGER CONVERSATION THAN HERE.
BUT BEFORE I EVEN ENTERTAIN OR REQUESTED THAT AS A FUTURE WORKSHOP, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS GIVEN ANY THOUGHT EITHER BEFORE THIS, AFTER THIS OF WHETHER THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE WANT TO HAVE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO OR WERE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.
>> I AGREE. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO AGREE IS WHAT WILL THE CITY HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THAT PARTICULAR, WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR ANY BUSINESS OR COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY? BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS MURPHY TALKED ABOUT GREATLY WHEN THEY STARTED ADDING THAT THEY DIDN'T EXPECT THAT SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE COST JUST SAFETY AND JUST A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIMES AND THAT IS A CONSIDERATION.
>> WELL, I THINK ANY CONVERSATION PIGGYBACKING ON YOUR STATEMENT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I THINK ANY CONVERSATION WE HAVE REGARDING THIS HAS TO INVOLVE GARY.
IT HAS TO INVOLVE CHIEF CHEF, IT HAS TO INVOLVE ASSISTANT CHIEF PRICE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO FEEL IT AND WHAT'S THAT'S GOING TO TAKE? BUT AGAIN, THE UNFORTUNATE TRUTH IS IF THEY PUT A RACE TRACK ON A HARD CORNER AND THE ETJ AND GOD FORBID IT CATCHES FIRE, CHIEF CHEFS GUYS ARE STILL THE ONES RESPONDING TO IT.
WE JUST DON'T GET ANY BENEFIT FOR IT [LAUGHTER] AND SO WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE IN THEIR DEPARTMENTS.
I JUST I DON'T WANT TO PLAY THE GAME OF CATCH-UP AND COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH
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IS STARTED THE IDEA AND WE PUT IT ON THE BALLOT FOR THE SALES TAX INCREASE THAT WILL GO TOWARDS ROADS.THAT'S A HUGE ADDITION TO THAT ACCOUNT THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY SEE FOR PLANNING FOR ROAD PROJECTS DOWN THE LINE AND BEING ABLE TO INCREASE OUR DEBT CAPACITIES BY THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND OUR PURCHASING POWER TO HANDLE THESE.
THIS IS ANOTHER REVENUE IN WHICH TO MAKE THAT FROM BEING A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO, WE COULD TALK SERIOUS MONEY IN BEING ABLE TO DO IT AND TAKE THAT BURDEN OFF OUR RESIDENTS.
BUT AGAIN, IN MY MIND, IT HAS TO BE BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL THAT BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF PARKER.
NOT A GIANT BIG BOX STORE, WALMART OR TARGET OR BUT SOMETHING THAT WILL ACTUALLY DO IT.
IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT OUR RESIDENTS IN THE LONG RUNS, LIKE THEY SAID, A COFFEE SHOPS, ICE CREAM PARLORS, STUFF THAT STILL GENERATES A SALES TAX REVENUE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN LIVE WITH TO BE IN AREAS.
THAT'S THE OTHER POINT IS I WOULD LIKE TO START DISCUSSING THE AREAS OF PARKER THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE SO THAT WE CONTROL THAT AND WE DON'T HAVE A GAS STATION OUTSIDE OF EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARKER IF WE HAVE ANY AT ALL, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, OR A BEER BAR DOWN AT THE CORNER OF THE PRESERVE.
>> I'VE HAD WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS EARLIER AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE FOLKS LIKE MYSELF WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME AND REALIZE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL ECONOMICS, ESPECIALLY AT BUILD-OUT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE THE REVENUE IS GOING TO BE AT A CAP TO LIMIT, LET'S JUST SAY, AND WE ARE PRETTY SURE THAT THERE WILL BE CONTINUING INFLATION EVEN IF IT'S AT HOPEFULLY A LOWER RATE THAN IT IS NOW, BUT IT WAS STILL CONTINUED TO GO UP SO I AGREE AND I ALSO AGREE THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME TYPES OF POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL THAT ARE FRAMING YOUR CITY ANYWAY.
IF IT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE, IT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION, BUT THERE'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN ALSO, WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE RESTRICTIONS, THEN EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD BE THERE AND IT COULD BE AN EYESORE AND MAYBE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE REVENUE FOR IT.
BUT THERE IS AT LEAST A RESTRICTION WHERE IT CAN'T BE IN THAT AREA AND AS WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER BY COUNCILMAN MEYER IS THAT THERE IS AN EROSION THAT CAN HAPPEN OVER THAT TIME.
I THINK THAT ONE OF THE KEYS IS GOING TO BE UNDERSTANDING AND I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, MAYOR PRO TEM SLAUGHTER, IS THAT WHERE IS THE BENEFIT FOR US REVENUE-WISE? WHAT CAN WE DO WITH IT? WHAT DOES IT PROVIDE US? THEN WHAT RESTRICTIONS IN OR OTHER PARAMETERS CAN WE FRAME AROUND IT TO CAUSE IT TO BE FAVORABLE FOR US? I THINK THOSE ARE BIG DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE I THINK THAT IN SOME SENSE, YOU MAY HAVE VERY LITTLE BANDWIDTH ON WHETHER IT'S AN ICE CREAM PARLOR OR A GAS STATION.
YOU MAY HAVE VERY LITTLE BANDWIDTH, OR WHETHER IT'S A BIG BOX STORE OR WHETHER IT'S A TINY LITTLE SHOP.
BECAUSE I THINK ONCE THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING GETS ZONED IN THERE, AT LEAST MY UNDERSTANDING OF COMMERCIAL ZONING IS THAT IT'S PRETTY OPEN ON THE WAY IT GOES IN.
ANYWAY, I THINK THOSE ALL NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AND ON HOW WE DO IT, LOCATIONS, AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE KEY TO THAT.
YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT ON MY QUARTER.
I THINK THAT BROADER CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE HAD IS, ARE WE LOOKING AT STRIP CENTER OR ARE WE LOOKING AT MORE OF A DOWNTOWN? OUR OWN NEW DOWNTOWN PARKER, WHERE YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS AND WINE BAR.
WHAT ELSE? SPORTS BAR, SOMETHING DOWN THAT LINE, LIKE A HIGHLAND VILLAGE ICE CREAM SHOP.
>> WELL, LIKE A MARKET STREET OR SOMETHING.
>> WHERE WOULD THAT BE? THAT'S ANOTHER THING YOU HAVE TO LOOK THE WAY WE'VE GROWN, WOULD IT BE A QUOTE DOWNTOWN, I DON'T MAYBE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY IS OFF A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T SEE THAT CONFIGURATION BEING VERY.
>> A BETTER TERMINOLOGY IS A MAIN STREET.
>> WE'RE LIMITED. WE HAVE TWO MAIN STREETS THROUGH PARKER BASICALLY AND WHAT LAND IS AVAILABLE AND THOSE TWO STREETS, PARKER ROAD AND HOGUE ROAD.
WELL NOT HOGUE ROAD BUT DELAIDE.
I THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS GOING TO TAKE SOME LEGAL ADVICE TOO.
HOW DO WE LIMIT WHAT GOES IN THERE AND WHAT ARE ALL OUR OPTIONS? DO WE GET A DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP?
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ISN'T THAT OPENING THE DOOR FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TOO? THERE'S SO MANY THINGS I THINK LEGALLY THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AS TO HOW TO APPROACH THIS AND THEN FIRST, WHERE THE AVAILABILITY THE LAND IS.WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE THE AVAILABILITY IS.
ZONINGS. THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND LIMIT THAT IN THAT RESPECT.
WORKING, DO WE WANT TO WORK WITH A DEVELOPER? I HONESTLY THINK THAT IF OUR APPETITE CHANGES, WE'LL START HEARING FROM THE DEVELOPERS FAIRLY QUICKLY WHO HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN THIS FOR A LONG TIME AS AN UNTAPPED AREA BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST US.
IF YOU GO EAST, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT EAST WHEN YOU'RE GOING DOWN PARKER ROAD.
WE'RE THE LAST FRONTIER UNTIL YOU GET OUT TO ST.
PAUL AND WILEY [LAUGHTER] AND SO PEOPLE WILL LOOK FOR THAT AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE MINUTE THAT WE TAKE AN APPETITE TO CONSIDER REZONING SOME STUFF TO A LIMITED COMMERCIAL PROPERTY VALUES, LAND VALUES.
A LONG PART OF THE ROAD WILL GO UP [LAUGHTER] SUDDENLY AND YOU'LL START SEEING THE PROPERTY COME UP FOR SALE SO WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT TOO BECAUSE DEVELOPERS WILL WANT THE PROPERTY.
BUT I JUST GENERALLY FEEL LIKE WHETHER WE WANT IT OR NOT, WE'RE GETTING IT.
WHETHER IT BE A FIREWORKS DONE TOO, THEY WERE SO GRACIOUS TO WORK WITH US AS FAR AS DESIGN AND EVERYTHING ELSE WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO.
BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR RESIDENTS HERE DON'T REALIZE THAT'S NOT THE CITY OF PARKER BECAUSE IT'S A PARKER ADDRESS AND IT'S WITHIN THEIR GUIDES.
WHETHER IT'D BE A STONE YARD THAT THEY JUST THINK IT'S PART OF THE CITY OF PARKER.
I DEALT WITH SO MANY PEOPLE AS I'VE BEEN HERE TALKING TO THEM THE GOING, WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING THIS? WE ALREADY HAVE COMMERCIALS EVERYWHERE.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT KIND AND I HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THEM.
WELL, IT'S NOT IN PARKER AND THEN PASS HAD COME OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE CAN DO THIS STRATEGICALLY, WE'LL HAVE MORE SAY THAN IF WE JUST SIT BY AND GO, LET'S WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT ANYWAY IN THE ETJ AND.
>> JUST THROWING OUT THERE, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ALL DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES AWAY, BUT YOU DO HAVE CHAPTER 3AD.
YOU CAN MAKE CHAPTER 3AD AGREEMENTS WHICH WOULD ALLOW LIKE A PROPERTY TAX REBATE AND/OR A SALES TAX REBATE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
YOU SEE THAT NEBRASKA FURNITURE MART IN THE COLONY GOT A BIG ONE, AND THAT SPURRED ALL THE GROWTH AROUND IT SO YOU DO HAVE THOSE OPTIONS.
I KNOW WHERE I LIVE IN CORINTH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE CITY ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, DID A 3AD AGREEMENT WITH HER CAPITAL MANAGEMENT FIRM AND IS BUILDING, A WHOLE DOWNTOWN RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME.
IT'D BE HUGE AND SO I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION HOW THEY DID THAT.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AT THIS POINT.
>> SEVERAL RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED ABOUT IF AND WHEN WE HAVE A NEW MUNICIPAL FACILITY, IF WE COULD HAVE A STREET IF RETAIL ALONG THE DRIVE IN, AN ICE CREAM SHOP, THE COFFEE SHOP, TO MAKE THAT SOME OF THE RETAIL VARY.
>> IT WOULD BE ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY IN.
>> IT WOULD BE CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
>> WELL, THAT'S AN OPTION. IS IT OR IS THAT AN OPTION WHERE THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY AND JUST LEASES OUT BUILDINGS? [LAUGHTER]
>> YOU DO LIKE A LAND LEASE FOR 100 YEARS OR SOMETHING DOWN THAT LINE. WHAT YOU WOULD DO.
>> I WAS SURPRISED BY SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT TALKED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WHEN I PREFER FOR OFFICE WORK, THERE WILL NEVER BE COMMERCIAL AND NOW THEY'RE LIKE, CAN WE DO THIS? [LAUGHTER] IT'S INTERESTING.
>> AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'VE LEARNED THAT NOMENCLATURE IS EVERYTHING AND SO WHEN A RESIDENT SAYS NO COMMERCIAL, I HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THAT DOESN'T MEAN NO ICE CREAM SHOP.
THEY NEVER INTENDED IT TO MEAN NO ICE CREAM SHOP, THEY MEAN NO HOME DEPOT, NO SPIRITS LIQUOR OR ONE OF THOSE STORES SO THEY HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT IDEA BETWEEN WHO YOU SPEAK TO.
BUT IN LOOKING AT IT, WE HAD A GOOD MAJORITY AND IF YOU LOOK AT THROWING IT OUT THERE, THE AVERAGE PERSON WHO COMES TO BOND ELECTIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE SHOW UP FOR THOSE IS PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAD RESPOND TO THIS.
IT'S NOT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE SO THAT'S A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF THE WHAT I CONSIDER THE INVOLVED POPULATION AND I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE TO GET AHEAD OF THIS AND NOT PLAY CATCH-UP IN THE FUTURE.
BECAUSE IF WE WILL KICK OURSELVES AND FUTURE COUNCILS WILL KICK US FOR NOT ADDRESSING IT NOW BEFORE IT BECOMES THAT AND SUDDENLY NOW PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR OTHER ITEMS COULD SUDDENLY BE MORE VALUABLE GOING A DIFFERENT ROUTE AND SO WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THOSE RESPECTS IF WE HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY FOR SOMETHING TO POSSIBLY BE REZONED SOME OTHER WAY.
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I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE PUT THIS ON FOR A WORKSHOP BECAUSE I THINK THAT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, EVERYBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER AND THINKS IT'S A WORTHWHILE TOPIC.>> HOPEFULLY, WE CAN GET SOME INFORMATION.
PRIOR TO THAT TIME ON WHAT ZONING WOULD WE NEED? WHAT ZONINGS ARE THERE? BECAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RETAIL COMMERCIAL ZONINGS THAT THERE MIGHT BE.
>> MAYBE IF WE CAN EVEN HAVE A REVIEW OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PROPERTY OR ANY OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN PARKER THAT MAYBE HAVE SOME UNUSUAL USES THAT WE CAN REVIEW THOSE AS WELL AS TO WHAT PREVIOUS COUNCILS THOUGHT OF IN THAT RESPECT.
>> ALSO, I THINK LOOKING AT AS COUNCIL MEMBER, MEYER MENTIONED THE AREAS, THE ETJ, SO THAT WE ACTUALLY CAN TAKE A LOOK ON THE MAP AND SEE WHAT AREAS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE WANTED NEED TO BE PROTECTIVE OF OUR RESIDENTS, THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T INFLUENCE OR ENCOURAGE THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS.
>> ALONG WITH THAT FRAME THAT SO THAT, BECAUSE WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS WE'LL BE GOING IN AND WE'LL BE SAYING PROBABLY THAT, WE WILL, IF WE ELECTED TO HAVE SOME PROPOSALS, THEN THERE WILL BE SOME OTHER GUARD BANDS ON WHERE WE'RE NOT, IT COULD BE OUTSIDE THOSE LIMITS AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING I THINK FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE IT IS OPENED UP, ARE YOU ABLE TO PUT ORDINANCES TOGETHER THAT HAVE ANY TEETH IN THEM THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE RESTRICTIONS?
>> I GUESS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL ZONINGS OUT THERE.
WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO GENERAL NARROW DOWN? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GENERALLY NARROW IT DOWN TO?
>> I WOULD SAY JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCES, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, SMALL RETAIL.
MOST CITIES HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ORDINANCE OR A ZONING WHICH I THINK WOULD COVER MOST OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE THAT GENERALLY ALLOWS SERVICE-BASED BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALSO TAX REVENUE, SALES OFFICES, AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THEN I WOULD SAY SMALL RETAIL BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE IT AND THEN A SMALL FOOD ESTABLISHMENT, THROWING OUT A MAJOR COFFEE CHAIN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK GENERALLY OUR RESIDENTS DRIVE TO GET THE COFFEE NOW I DON'T THINK THEY'D HAVE A PROBLEM WITH INSERT NAME OF COFFEE STORE HERE SHOWING UP IN PARKER OFF OF PARKER ROAD.
BUT I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ON A BASIS OF WHAT WE WOULD ALLOW DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS IN THE CITY.
BECAUSE A COFFEE SHOP CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN
>> THAN AT CITY HALL OR, I KNOW WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION, BUT THERE'S A LARGE PLOT OF LAND RIGHT NEXT TO CITY HALL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE WITH THAT, BUT THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS OR THE LAND THAT'S FOR SALE AROUND THE PRESERVE, WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE FOR THAT.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY HERE THAT I THINK WE WANT TO BE AHEAD OF BEFORE AND THEN WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT INCENTIVIZATIONS CAN WE DO TO ENCOURAGE ETJ LAND TO WANT TO BE PART OF THE CITY OF PARKER.
WHAT BENEFIT CAN WE PROVIDE THEM SO THAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPERS AND BUYERS WANT TO BE PART OF THE CITY OF PARKER, BUT HAVE SOMETHING COMMERCIAL THERE SO WE GROW THE BENEFIT OF WHATEVER IT IS?
>> MAYBE BRING SOME OF THEM IN THAT ARE NOW IN TEACHER.
>> ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S JUST THEY'RE HERE, WHICH IS WASTED REVENUE, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S SITTING OUT THERE THAT THEY DON'T BENEFIT FROM THAT WE COULD BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF.
I WILL ADD THAT I THINK THIS IS FOR ANY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE I WOULD HATE FOR THIS TO BE THE ONE ITEM WE DO A COMP PLAN, NOT DISCUSSING COMMERCIAL, AND IT JUST BE THAT ONE ITEM THAT NEVER GETS ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE, SO IT BECOMES THAT ISSUE DOWN THE LINE.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS, AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER, I KNOW YOU WERE WORKING ON RETYPING A FRAMEWORK BASED ON THAT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SHARE FROM THAT.
I KNOW WE WERE GOING TO SHARE THE DOCUMENT.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET, BUT YOU'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY ON THAT.
>> WHAT I DID IS I WENT BY THE TABLE OF CONTENTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN ONE OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
I STARTED WITH THAT AND THEN I STARTED ACTUALLY DID THE EASY PART.
[LAUGHTER] BUT I UPDATED THE VISION, THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY, HISTORY OF PARKER.
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COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OF COURSE, WE HAVE THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE THE SURVEY VISION STATEMENT, REGIONAL INFLUENCES THE GEOGRAPHIC DATA, POPULATION AND DEMOGRAPHICS, HOUSING AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE I STOPPED.I HAVE THAT PUT TOGETHER IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, BUT IT'S WAY PREMATURE, I GUESS.
I SAID THAT'S THE EASY PART, BUT I THOUGHT THAT START WITH SOMETHING.
[LAUGHTER] THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE'LL NEED TO GATHER.
I THIS IS MORE THAN A TWO-PERSON JOB, I THINK MY ESTIMATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE SOME OF THIS AND SHOULD WE SPLIT IT UP BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS OR SHOULD WE GET OUTSIDE RESIDENTS TO HELP VOLUNTEER TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS BECAUSE I SEE OUT AWFUL LOT OF WORK AND RESEARCH.
>> [LAUGHTER] IF YOU REMEMBER ORIGINALLY I MENTIONED WE GET TO A POINT TO FIND AN OUTSIDE FIRM THAT CAN ASSIST IN SOME OF IT.
THERE IS A LOT RESEARCH HAVE TO DO.
THE ISSUE WITH RESIDENT VOLUNTEERS IS WE HAVE A LOT OF WELL-MEANING RESIDENTS.
AS SOMEBODY WHO'S WORKED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOW FOR TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS, THREE YEARS, ALMOST FOUR YEARS.
IT DIES OFF VERY QUICKLY WHEN ASSIGNMENTS START COMING OUT AND THE THINGS JUST DON'T GET DONE.
AS YOU SEE, IT'S A DOMINO EFFECT.
IF ONE CHAPTER DOESN'T GET DONE, IT'S VERY HARD TO DO THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE SOME OF THEM TIE IN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT SPLITTING IT UP AMONGST COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WHETHER PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITIES TO HELP WITH THAT.
>> IF WE BREAK IT DOWN INTO SMALLER PIECES, EACH PERSON KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEIR PART IS IN AND IT'S NOT GENERALIZED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT REALLY HARD.
>> CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO ABOUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL OF SMALL COMMERCIAL MAYBE ONE PERSON HANDLE WHAT WE'RE LIMITED TO AS FAR AS ZONING.
WHAT THE RESOURCES ARE NEARBY LOCALLY.
WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES WE WOULD CONSIDER? WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN INTO SMALL SEGMENTS LIKE THAT AND NOT GIVE IT ALL TO MICHAEL WHO DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF FREE TIME AND THE WAY IT IS.
>> LOOK HOW MUCH STAFF TIME IS AVAILABLE DON'T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT
I THINK THAT IT'S EITHER COUNCIL MEMBERS OR VOLUNTEERS FROM THE COMMUNITY OR IF WE HAVE TO GO TO AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT THEN DO THAT, BUT LET'S EXHAUST OUR OWN INTERNAL RESOURCES FIRST.
>> ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT JUST LOOKING AT THE TABLE OF CONTENTS THAT WE HAD BEFORE? THERE'S A SECTION ON LAND USE, THERE'S A SECTION ON STREETS AND DRAINAGE, UTILITIES, AND FACILITIES, AND PARKS.
TAKING THOSE TYPES OF AREAS AND USING A PREVIOUS DRAFT, I'M ASSUMING IS HOW YOU'RE STARTING THIS.
IS WHERE THE PREVIOUS DRAFTER AND THEN IDENTIFYING THE DATA THAT'S MISSING BECAUSE IT SEEMS IS THERE DATA THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE GATHERED.
>> WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS SOME OF THE CATEGORIES YOU MENTIONED ARE STRAIGHT DATA LAND USE, WE HAVE A LAND USE MAP.
WE DON'T WANT TO ALTER THAT AGAIN.
UTILITIES, THAT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WHO THE PROVIDERS ARE? WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION THE WAY THAT I DID IT AND I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR COUNCIL MEMBER MEYERS WHEN I WAS WORKING ON IT.
I BORROWED SOME OTHER CITIES AND LOOK TO SEE WHAT THEY HAD VERSUS WHAT WE HAD AND EDITED THINGS ACCORDINGLY BECAUSE NO CITY QUITE MATCHES US, BUT IT GAVE ME A SPIRIT AS TO WHAT THE CATEGORY WAS, WHAT THE PARAGRAPH WAS.
>> WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD FOLLOWS THEIR VIEWS.
>> I STARTED PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
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I SAID I PUT TOGETHER THE EASY PART.IF YOU WANT TO CUT CAN, WE CAN SHOW THIS ON THE SCREEN AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT I'VE DONE AND THEN WE CAN JUST TAKE IT FROM THERE IF THAT'S OKAY.
>> WE NEED A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT MOMENTUM.
>> ARE YOU WANTING TO COMPLAIN OUR COMPLAINT PDF?
>> I GET A LITTLE CARRIED AWAY WHEN I'M DOING THIS.
I HAVE GRAPHICS AND OTHER THINGS.
[LAUGHTER] THESE ARE THE CHAPTERS THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING AND YOU CAN JUST START SCROLLING THROUGH THEM AND LET'S LOOK AT THEM.
>> TELL ME IF I'M GOING TOO FAST.
>> THE INTRODUCTION IN THE FIRST CHAPTER IS SHAPING OUR FUTURE AND IT JUST BASICALLY OUTLINES WHAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PURPOSE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEN HOW IT'S PUT TOGETHER WITH THE VISION, STRATEGY, AND ACTION.
THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY IS JUST OPEN TO LEGAL STUFF.
HISTORY OF PARKER OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AVAILABLE AND I PUT THAT IN THERE.
AGAIN, BUILDING ON PAST PLANNING EFFORTS AND ACKNOWLEDGING ALL THE PLANNING THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO.
OUR VISION STATEMENT, THERE WAS A GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
>> GUIDING PRINCIPLES, THAT [LAUGHTER] WAS ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT WE AGREED UPON, BUT [LAUGHTER] MY SENTENCE THERE SAYS IT ALL.
DO WE HAVE ANY? [LAUGHTER] THEN THE GEOGRAPHIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC INFLUENCES.
THE FIRST PART IS HOW COLLIN COUNTY COMPARES WITH THE REST OF TEXAS AND THEN HOW DO WE COMPARE WITH COLLIN COUNTY? IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.
I THINK THIS IS 2021 DATA OFF OF THE 2000 CENSUS, AND THEN SOME GRAPHS AND CHARTS OF POPULATION AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
THERE'S THE MAP OF THE BLACK AREAS, PARKER'S IN THE PINK AND THE BLACK AREAS ARE THE ETJ AS OF THE TIME THIS MAP WAS PUBLISHED, WHICH IS THE LATEST ONE I COULD FIND.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS IDENTIFY HOW MANY ACRES OR WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PARKER IS STILL ETJ? THAT SHOULDN'T BE TOO DIFFICULT.
ISRAEL IS THE SOFTWARE THAT'S USED BY THE COUNTY, AND I ALSO HAVE AN OLD VERSION OF IT AND I TRIED TO SEE IF I COULD BRING UP SOME OF THE COUNTY DATA IN MY COMPUTER, BUT I DIDN'T WORK TOO WELL.
MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME OF THIS INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY SINCE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ON THAT MAP IF WE DID HAVE ANY COMMERCIAL.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. THEN THE NEXT PAGE IS, AGAIN, COMPARISON TO COLLIN COUNTY ON HOME VALUES AND WEALTH INDICATORS AND AGE AND INCOME AND THAT TYPE OF THING, AND THEN I GET DOWN TO THE NEXT PAGE IS LAND USE.
WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS IN THIS WHOLE PLAN PUT TOGETHER THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE.
I'M DOING THE EASY PART, THE PAST [LAUGHTER] AND THE PRESENT, SO WHERE WERE WE AND WHERE ARE WE NOW? NOW, IT'S THIS COMMITTEE'S JOB TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP OF WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE AND THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT PART.
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THE NEXT SECTION IS NEIGHBORHOODS AND CHARACTERISTICS.WHAT I DID HERE IS I START, I WAS DOING THIS TODAY.
[LAUGHTER] THE BLACKLIST IS THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY RESEARCHED, ALL THE SUBDIVISIONS, WHEN THEY WERE APPROVED, THE PLOTS WERE APPROVED.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHEN THE HOUSES WERE BUILT, BUT WHEN THE PLOTS WERE APPROVED.
MY HOPE WAS TO PUT EVERY SUBDIVISION IN PARKER IN THERE.
THERE WOULD STILL BE HOUSES, OF COURSE, THAT MAY NOT FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY.
I KNOW THEY FALL INTO SOME SUBDIVISION, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE NOT WORTH THE EFFORT OF GOING INTO EACH INDIVIDUAL HOUSE AND FINDING THAT INFORMATION, BUT THE MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS.
I THINK THAT'S IT. THAT'S AS FAR AS I GOT.
OH, I'M SORRY. I DID GO FURTHER.
[LAUGHTER] INFRASTRUCTURES STARTED WITH THE WATER IN THE PAST.
OF COURSE, THE HISTORY OF THE WATER SYSTEM.
NOW THE WATER SYSTEM EXPANSION, SOME OF THAT INFORMATION, THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS ARE THE AREAS THAT I NEED SPECIFIC INFORMATION OR DATES ON.
OBTAINING THOSE DATES MAY BE PROBLEMATIC FOR SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES.
GARY HAS BEEN A BIG HELP IN PROVIDING A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION THOUGH.
STREETS AND DRAINAGE AND GENERAL PROBLEMS AND ALL THAT.
I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN GO TO AN OUTSIDE SOURCE TO GET THIS INFORMATION, QUIZZES IS INTERNAL.
THIS IS WHERE DO WE WANT PARKER TO GO AND HOW DO WE WANT TO GET THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DECIDE.
ALTHOUGH THIS QUESTIONNAIRE IS GOOD, I THINK AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET MORE SPECIFIC WITH PEOPLE AND ALSO GET MORE FEEDBACK FROM THEM ONCE WE IDENTIFY WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE.
>> I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE REMAINING LARGE PLOTS OF LAND THAT SOMEBODY MAY OWN AND THEN CHOOSE TO SELL.
>> IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY NOTES IS I DON'T WANT TO TRAP OURSELVES INTO THINKING COMMERCIAL IS JUST DTJ.
WE ARE ALLOWED TO OPEN LAND THAT IS IN PARKER ALREADY THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT FOR SOMETHING, SO I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT OURSELVES.
>> NO. WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT STRENGTHENING AS OF TWO OR ZONING FOR RESIDENTIAL TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY COUNCILMEMBER MEYER, YOU'VE DONE A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE EASY STUFF AND THIS GIVES US A REALLY GOOD FRAMEWORK AND IT'S A LOT PRETTIER THAN THE ONES I WAS WORKING ON BECAUSE I'M NOT GOOD WITH THE GRAPHICS AND EVERYTHING.
IT DEFINITELY GIVES US A VERY STRONG FOOTHOLD INTO BEING ABLE TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE PUT INTO IT BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE I DO AGREE AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WITH WHERE YOU'RE AT RIGHT NOW THAT MOST OF THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE BY US AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT'S THE ONES WHO WERE ELECTED TO MAKE SOME OF THESE DECISIONS AND THEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ALL WILL GIVE US SOME OF THE RESIDENTS.
I WOULD LOVE RESIDENT INVOLVEMENT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO HELP.
I JUST LIKE I SAID, MY EXPERIENCE HAS NOT BEEN GREAT SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY IDEAS OF HOW WE WOULD DO THAT AS FAR AS ENERGIZING THE RESIDENT BASE TO COME FORWARD AND WANT TO PUT IN THIS LEVEL OF WORK.
>> IN THE QUESTIONNAIRE WASN'T ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT THERE WEREN'T VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES?
>> SOME PEOPLE RESPONDED TO THAT SO MAYBE YOU CAN CONTACT THEM SEE IF THEY WANT TO VOLUNTEER.
>> ONE OF THE CRITICISM IS WE DON'T HAVE THIS.
HERE'S YOUR CHANCE AND WE CAN SEND OUT A BLAST TO OUR RESIDENTS AND SEE HOW IT WORKS.
>> THE ONLY THING I'D SAY WITH RESPECT TO VOLUNTEERS IS I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE PRODUCTIVE TO GET VOLUNTEERS IF THERE WAS A TRUE STRUCTURE OF WHAT WAS
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NEEDED FOR THE RESIDENTS TO DO NOT JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO MEET AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE. [OVERLAPPING]>> THAT EACH ONE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIFIC JOB.
>> WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY OUR NEXT STEP IS ANOTHER WORKSHOP WHERE WE TALK ABOUT ZONING, COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IS NEXT.
>> I SEE THAT AS BEING A VERY POINTED DISCUSSION, MUCH LESS BROAD.
GENERALLY ON THE WORKSHOP, I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME MORE OF THIS DISCUSSION TO BE HAD.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE LIKE SHE HAD UP THEIR DRAINAGE ANALYSIS.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF US UP HERE ARE HYDROLOGISTS, WE CAN GIVE A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT WE BELIEVE THE DRAINAGE ISSUES ARE, WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING IN THE OUTSIDE EXPERTS.
IT'S MORE OF WHAT MY THOUGHT PROCESS WAS.
NOT NECESSARILY SOMEBODY TO WRITE IT ANYMORE, BUT THE OUTSIDE EXPERTS THAT CAN HELP US FOCUS ON WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND WRITE IT UP AT A PROPER FORM, WHETHER THAT'D BE OUR CITY ENGINEERS OR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, HAVE TO BRING IN THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT NO MATTER HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN HERE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITIES TO GIVE THAT.
>> WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR HELP ON THIS BEFORE, WHAT WERE WE INCLUDING? I REMEMBER THERE WAS NO RESPONSES BUT WHAT WERE WE INCLUDING?
>> WE HAD ASKED FOR A FIRM TO HELP US WITH GATHERING SURVEY DATA, WHICH WE'VE NOW DONE ON OUR OWN, GENERAL CLERICAL ASSISTANCE AND RESEARCH ASSISTANCE AND WE GOT A BIG FAT GOOSE EGG ON RESPONSES.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE SPECIFIC SPECIALTIES IF WE GET TO A CATEGORY AND FIND THOSE INDIVIDUALS, INSTEAD OF FINDING A FIRM, BECAUSE THE FIRMS ARE JUST TOO BUSY WITH THE LARGER CITIES TO CARE ABOUT DOING WORK FOR US.
>> NOW, ON THE DRAINAGE FROM MY KNOWLEDGE ON MY SUBDIVISION THAT HAS DRAINAGE ISSUES, WE HAD A CITY ENGINEER THAT DID WORK TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE AND THOSE REPORTS SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE.
I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S JUST BEFORE I BROKE MY ANKLE IN THE DITCH.
[LAUGHTER] I HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT YEAR THAT WAS.
I KNOW GARY AND YOU CAN VALIDATE THIS.
WE DID HAVE AN ENGINEERING STUDY ON MOSS RIDGE, CORRECT?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE DO THE WHOLE THING, BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME WORK DONE IN THERE.
>> JUST A SECTION OF IT I DON'T RECALL.
>> BUT IT WAS THE SECTION THAT FLOODS.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE DID EASY ACRES, WE PROBABLY HAD AN ENGINEERING STUDY DONE ON THAT TOO.
>> I REMEMBER ONE BEING DONE ON THE STATE LINE BECAUSE OF THE BRIDGE.
>> I KNOW THERE'S AN ENGINEERING STUDY.
THERE'S SOME WORK BEEN DONE ON THAT.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE BRIDGE NEEDS TO BE?
>> I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME INFORMATION THAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS THAT WE NEED TO START PULLING TOGETHER BEFORE WE DECIDE TO GO OUT TO ANOTHER ENGINEERING FIRM.
>> [OVERLAPPING] DOING THE ENGINEERING STUDY AND THAT WAS PART OF SOME COST SAVING BECAUSE AN ENGINEERING STUDY WAS REALLY EXPENSIVE.
WE'RE GOING BACK WITH THE SAME SIZE.
>> I THINK GENERALLY WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE HAVE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED.
I DON'T WANT TO GO OUT AND BLANKETLY HIRE AND I WOULDN'T BE ADVOCATING FOR SUCH AN ENGINEERING FIRM.
BUT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM GREGORY LANE BUT WE'VE MADE A REPAIR SINCE THEN, THEN SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE INVALIDATED BECAUSE WE'VE NOW CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST HIT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PEOPLE FROM NEW NEIGHBORHOODS COME THAT ARE HAVING DRAINAGE ISSUES AND THOUGH THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE NOT THE CITY, I THINK WE HAVE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT IN THE RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE DRAINAGE PROFILE ON HERE OF THIS IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A HOMEOWNER.
HERE'S WHAT THE CITY HAS SO THAT THEY DON'T EXPECT US TO COME CLEAN OUT THEIR CULVERTS THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND OR IF THEY PUT IN A POOL AND THEY RUN LARGE EQUIPMENT OVER IT AND THEY HAVE NOW LOWERED THE ANGLES ON THEIR CULVERTS, YOU NEED TO BUILD THAT BACK UP.
THAT'S WHERE YOUR DRAINAGE ISSUE COMES FROM, NOT FROM SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE FOUR MILES DOWN THE ROAD.
I THINK WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE.
>> WOULD THAT INFORMATION GO INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS FAR AS WHAT THE RESPONSES ARE FOR RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS AND THE CITY?
>> ABSOLUTELY EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT I HAVE SEEN WHEN IT DISCUSSES DRAINAGE, FARMERSVILLE IS A PRIME EXAMPLE.
IT ACTUALLY DISCUSSES CURB AND GUTTER VERSUS OPEN CULVERT AND DITCH.
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THERE'S ACTUALLY SPECIFICS IF YOU READ THEIRS WHERE THEY'VE HIGHLIGHTED THOSE FACTS.LUCAS DOES IT IN THEIRS THEY HIGHLIGHT THOSE FACTS OF WHAT THIS BELONGS TO US, THIS BELONGS TO YOU.
IF NOT SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IT'S GIVING GENERALITIES THAT FIT ACROSS THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY'VE BUILT OUT.
THE CITY OWNS NO CULVERT OR DITCHES IN THOSE RESPECTS SO THEY'RE ABLE TO SAY THAT'S OWNER RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A TIME IN WHICH WE NEED TO LAY THAT OUT.
WHAT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY? WHAT IS THE OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY?
PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BEFORE WE GET TOGETHER NEXT TIME IS FOR US TO GET A COPY OF THAT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE JUST LOOKING AT IT ON THE SCREEN IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S REALLY IN IT AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY SEE WHAT'S IN IT AND MAYBE LOOK AT SOME OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AS WELL AND COME BACK WITH SOME FEEDBACK, SOME SUGGESTIONS.
>> YOU'RE WILLING TO SHARE WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL? IT'S WHAT SHE WAS ASKING US IF WE CAN HAVE WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY WORKED ON YOUR FRAMEWORK.
[LAUGHTER] THAT'S ACTUALLY COMPLETED ALREADY.
>> CATHERINE, HOW MUCH INFORMATION CAN WE GET ON ZONING?
>> I BELIEVE IT'S JUST AN INFORMATION.
>> BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL ON THE ZONING.
>> WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY CLASSIFICATIONS THERE ARE.
>> IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO TAKE THREE RANDOM CITIES AROUND HERE THAT ARE NOT DALLAS PLANO BUT, LUCAS, EVEN CROSSROADS.
>> SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND GET WHAT THEIR COMMERCIAL ZONING ORDINANCES LOOK LIKE BECAUSE THAT'LL GIVE US AN IDEA EVEN IF WE DON'T ELECT ALL OF THEIR ZONING ORDINANCES OR ALL OF THEIR ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS IT'LL GIVE US AN IDEA OF WELL, SOMEBODY'S ALREADY SAID YES, YES, NO SO WE CAN DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
>> MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION, IF YOU'RE OUT AND ABOUT, WRITE DOWN THE INTERSECTIONS AND STUFF THAT YOU LIKE OF COMMERCIAL.
BECAUSE SOME AREAS MIGHT JUST HAVE SPECIFIC COMMERCIAL ZONING FOR THOSE AREAS SO WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE TWO.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME SPOT ZONING OR THAT SPOT ZONING, BUT A GENERAL OVERLAY DISTRICT OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
>> IN OTHER CITIES, STUFF LIKE THAT.
IF YOU COULD LET THAT WAY, IT'D BE EASIER ON US TO TO PULL SOME OF THAT STUFF.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? NOT HEARING ANYTHING ELSE.
IT IS 8:23 PM.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.