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>> [BACKGROUND] GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
TONIGHT, I'M CALLING THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER]
IT IS FEBRUARY 21ST, 2023 AT 6:00 PM.MR. OLSON, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM?
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
WE WILL GO INTO RECESS TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 PERSONNEL, TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE.GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0711, CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY CONCERNING PENDING OR COMPETENCE RELATED LITIGATION.
GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0712, CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY, UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OR THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS, CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
WE ARE IN RECESS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE RECONVENING OUR REGULAR MEETING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, IT IS 7:09 PM.
IS THERE ANY ACTION FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION?
>> AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK PRESTON IF HE WOULD LEAD US IN THE AMERICAN PLEDGE AND SHARON, IF YOU WOULD LEAD US IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE.
>> I'M ASKED TO REMIND EVERYBODY UP HERE ON COUNCIL, SO WHEN YOU SPEAK, PLEASE SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE, WHICH HOPEFULLY YOU WILL HAVE TURNED IT ON.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
NEXT, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. [INAUDIBLE]>> I KNOW WE ARE DISCUSSING A NUMBER OF THINGS RIGHT NOW, BUILDING WATER, ETC.
IT CAUSED ME TO GO ONTO OUR WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THE MAP THAT WE HAVE ON THE PARKER WEBSITE.
I HAVE A QUESTION AS TO WHY WE HAVE NOT UPDATED THAT MAP.
IT'S EIGHT YEARS OLD, AND IT CERTAINLY DOES NOT REFLECT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR CITY IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
IS THERE A REASON? CAN WE DO IT? BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO KNOW OF THE EMPTY SLOTS THAT ARE THERE.
HOW MANY ARE ETJ? HOW MANY ARE NOW PLANNED? DON'T KNOW. IT'S A 2015 MAP, SURELY WE CAN UPDATE IT. THANK YOU.
>> ED STANDRIDGE 3607 HOLD DRIVE PARKER, TEXAS 75002-6733.
IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT 6733 MEANS, THAT'S THE SECTION OF TOWN THAT I LIVE IN.
I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE COUNCIL.
WE REALLY DID A LOT LAST MEETING.
THERE'S SOME THAT PUT IT IN MORE.
THERE'S SOME THAT REALLY PUSHED HARD TO GET IT TO WHERE IT IS AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
A NUMBER OF US HAVE WORKED ON THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE FINALLY MAKING SOME HEADWAY.
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MY CONCERN IS THE AMOUNT OF TEXTING BETWEEN THIS COUNCIL PERSON AND THE AUDIENCE THAT WERE TAKING PLACE.MY OPINION IS IF YOU CAN'T CONDUCT YOURSELF AS A COUNCIL MEMBER WHILE YOU'RE SITTING AT THE DESK, THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO BE SITTING THERE, CERTAINLY NOT TAKING YOUR DIRECTION AND THE ORDERS FROM THE CITIZENS.
THAT'S A DISRESPECT TO THE CITIZENS, ALL OF US SITTING OUT THERE.
I WOULD REQUEST THERE BE SOMETHING PUT IN PLACE THAT WE USE TO HAVE THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE AMOUNT OF TEXTING THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
YOU CAN'T SHUT THE TEXT OFF BECAUSE THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
ONE OF THE COURT RULINGS WHERE SOMEBODY, A DOCTOR MISSED THE MESSAGE AND THE PATIENT DIED, SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND SO YOU CAN'T TURN THEM OFF.
I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO SET THEIR OWN TEXT BACK-AND-FORTH TO THE AUDIENCE.
I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME SUPPORT ON THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTERESTS.
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION IS MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, MARCH 8TH AT 5:00 PM IN THIS ROOM AS FAR AS I KNOW.CANDIDATES NIGHT WILL BE CONDUCTED BY THE PARKER WOMEN'S CLUB AT VICTORY CHURCH ON APRIL 13TH AT 7:00 PM.
THE NATIONAL PRESCRIPTION DRUG TAKE BACK DAY IS SATURDAY, APRIL 22ND, FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM AND I ASSUME THAT THE OFFICERS WILL BE OUT TO TAKE THE DRUGS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DROPPING THEM OFF.
OF COURSE, WE WILL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT EARLY VOTING.
PATTY, WHAT DAY, IS IT APRIL 6TH THAT IS THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE?
>> IT'S ON THE FRONT PAGE AS THE BOTTOM [INAUDIBLE].
>> APRIL 6TH IS THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE, SO YOU CAN VOTE IN OUR ELECTION. PLEASE DO SO.
IF YOU'RE NEW TO PARKER, PLEASE CHANGE YOUR ADDRESS TO PARKER BECAUSE EVERY YEAR THAT COMES UP WHERE SOME PEOPLE HAVE FORGOTTEN TO DO THAT.
THEN OUR ELECTION WITH EARLY VOTING STARTING ON APRIL 24TH, THE ELECTION DAY IS ACTUALLY MAY 6TH.
NEXT, WE WILL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH CONSISTS OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR JANUARY 11TH, 2023, AND THE MEETING MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 7TH, 2023? NOT HEARING ANYTHING, I WILL TAKE A MOTION.>> MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IS.
>> I'LL HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ABRAHAM TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'LL SECOND THAT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSE? MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU.
[3. TEMPORARY MORATORIUM EXTENSION]
NOW, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE EXTENSION OF THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON THE ACCEPTANCE, REVIEW AND APPROVALS NECESSARY FOR THE SUBDIVISION, SITE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER.AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, IT IS 7:16.
IS SOMEONE HERE FROM MR. BIRKHOFF'S OFFICE?
>> PLEASE COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF, SIR.
>> GOOD EVENING MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ANDREW MATA. I'M WITH BIRKHOFF, HENDRICKS AND CARTER.
MR. BIRKHOFF HAD AN EMERGENCY, HE COMES INTO MY OFFICE AT 04:45 AND SAYS, I GOT TO GO, YOU HAVE TO STEP IN.
HE'S GOING TO BE A GRANDDAD HOPEFULLY.
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>> BUT HE DID MENTION THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGE, WE ARE STILL IN THE WINTER DEMANDS, WE HAVE BEEN SINCE EARLY DECEMBER AND YOU'RE NOT USING HIS WATER, BUT AS THE TEMPERATURE GOES UP AND HEAT RISES AND PEOPLE START USING IT, YOU GET THAT IMPACT.
THERE HAS BEEN ABOUT 28 ADDITIONAL HOMES SEALS ISSUED AND I BELIEVE BY THE SUMMER YOU'LL BE AT ABOUT 45.
IF NOTHING ELSE HAS CHANGED, WE STILL RECOMMEND THE MORATORIUM STILL BE IN PLACE, BE INTACT UNTIL THE CITY SIGNS THAT CONTRACT WITH THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.
WE ALSO RECOMMEND A WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THE CITY CONSIDER WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AS SUMMER COMES INTO PLAY, IT'S GOING TO PUT AN IMPACT ON THE SYSTEM LIKE IT DID LAST YEAR.
WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY CONSIDER THAT.
DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THE PUBLIC?
>> COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT HEARING ANYTHING. THANK YOU, SIR.
>> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE?
>> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE WATER MORATORIUM? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
WE ARE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON WATER MORATORIUM.
IT IS 7:19 P.M. AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER I39, EXTENDING THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ENACTED BY ORDINANCE NUMBERS 833, 824, 815, AND 812 ON THE ACCEPTANCE, REVIEW AND APPROVALS NECESSARY FOR THE SUBDIVISION, SITE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT, AND OUR CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER.
I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THE ARGUMENTS IN YOUR PACKET.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 839 EXTENDING THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ENACTED BY ORDINANCES 833, 824, 815, AND 812.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROTEM SLAUGHTER, TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 839.
>> MADAM MAYOR I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.
>> IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? THEN I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING ARGUMENTS NUMBER 839, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU.
[4. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION, ACCEPTING THE 2022 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT AND THE 2022 PARKER PD ANNUAL REPORT.]
CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ACCEPTING THE 2022 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT FIRST AND THE 2022 PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL REPORT.MR. CROSS, I THINK THIS HAS YOUR NAME ON IT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL, FIRST, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.
BASICALLY IT LAYS OUT THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB AS FAR AS THE RACIAL PROFILING LAWS CONCERN.
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WE'VE HAD ZERO COMPLAINTS IN THE 2,234 TRAFFIC STOPS THEY HAD LAST YEAR.WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE UP KICKING GROWTH IN TRAFFIC COMPLAINTS, SO THAT NUMBER IS REALLY GOING TO GROW FROM NEXT YEAR.
AS COMPARED TO THE LAW, WE HAVE TO THEN ANALYZE THAT COMPARED TO THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US, THE ROADWAYS AROUND US.
THROUGH THOSE COMPARATIVE DATA, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE EXACTLY RIGHT ON TRACK.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAS TO BE REPORTED TO THE COUNCIL BY MARCH 1ST OF EVERY YEAR.
>> COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ON THAT, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS REPORT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT AS PRESENTED.
>> I'LL SECOND THAT MADAM MAYOR.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER LEE, TO ACCEPT THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL? NOT HEARING ANY, THEN I'LL ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.
ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-0.
NEXT, WE HAVE THE 2022 PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ANNUAL REPORT.
I PUT UP ONE OF THESE PACKETS IN FRONT OF YOU, THERE'S A COUPLE BACK ON MY DESK, IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS ANY.
BASICALLY IT'S GOING TO OUTLINE WHERE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
I DO HAVE TO MENTION THAT THIS REPORT WAS CREATED BY MICHELLE.
SHE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB PUTTING THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR YOU-ALL, SO I CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR IT.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
I WON'T BORE YOU WITH ALL OF THIS SUPERFLUOUS STUFF WHICH IS OUR VISION AND STUFF THAT WE GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR.
IF YOU'LL FLIP THROUGH THE PAGES TO THE FIRST TAB THAT SAYS ORGANIZATIONAL CHART LOOKS LIKE THIS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENCES THERE.
AS WE STARTED LAST YEAR, THE DEPARTMENT WAS ORGANIZED USING THIS CHART.
AS WE WENT THROUGH AND WITH A VOTE OF THE COUNCIL, WE MOVED THIS STRUCTURE TO A CHIEF AND AN ASSISTANT CHIEFS POSITION.
THIS IS THE NEW CURRENT ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AS WE ARE FULL-STAFFED.
CURRENTLY AS SETTING, I'M COVERING BOTH THE ASSISTANT AND CHIEF UNTIL THAT POSITION CAN BE FILLED.
MOVING TO THE NEXT PAGE IS JUST A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT LIES UNDER WHAT DEPARTMENTS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF WHAT.
THE NEXT ONE IS OUR CITY BEAT MAP.
I THOUGHT THIS TO BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED, AS WE WERE MOVING TOWARDS FUTURE GROWTH, WE DECIDED TO BUILD A FOUR-STAGE AREA WHERE OFFICERS WOULD PATROL.
WITH THE CURRENT WAVE OF THE WAY WE'RE WORKING AND HOW IT'S GOING, WE'VE MOVED FROM THIS FOUR BEAT PATROL AREA TO A TWO BEAT AREA.
ANYTHING IN ONE AND FOUR WOULD BE ONE BEAT WHERE ONE OF THE PATROL OFFICERS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AND TO ASSIST THE OTHER ONE AT NIGHT, THE TWO AND THREE WOULD BE ONE OF THEIR SELVES.
WE NEED TO UPDATE THIS MAP AS SOME OTHERS HAVE SAID.
BUT UNTIL WE GET THAT NAILED DOWN, THAT GIVES YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE.
THE NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE OUR GROUP A OR MAJOR CRIMES.
THEY'VE GONE UP SLIGHTLY OVER THIS LAST YEAR AND I THINK THAT'S DUE TO THE LIGHTENING OF COVID AND PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO OUT AND ABOUT AND MOVE FREELY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE? IT BREAKS DOWN BASICALLY HOW MANY OF THOSE CALLS OR TYPES OF CALLS THAT WE RESPOND TO.
THEN THE NEXT ONE IS JUST A CHART TO SEE WHERE IT IS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S ON THE RISE, BUT THAT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING AND TRAFFIC IS TRAVELING THROUGH THE ROADWAYS ARE GETTING LARGER, SO WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE.
THE NEXT TAB YOU WILL SEE IS A CLASS B OR GROUP B CLASSIFICATIONS OF CRIMES.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CARRY THE LESSER PENALTIES.
IN THIS, THEY HAVE GONE UP AS ABOUT WITH THE REST OF THE YEARS MOVING FORWARD.
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WE USE THE POPULATION FOR THE NORTH TEXAS REGIONAL OR NORTH-CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR GROUP OF REPORTING.IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY, WELL, I SAY SIGNIFICANT, ABOUT A 100 PEOPLE DIFFERENT THAN THE US CENSUS.
BUT THIS ONE CLOSELY RELATES MORE TO WHAT WE ARE FOR THE 5730 IN THIS AREA.
THEN THE GROWTH IN THOSE TWO CATEGORIES OVER THE YEARS IS PRETTY EQUIVALENT TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE OTHER CHARTS.
OUR RESPONSE TIMES HAVE VARIED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, ONE HAVING TO DO WITH OFFICERS ON DUTY.
WE'RE SHORT-STAFFED, SO SOMETIMES THEY GET A LITTLE LONGER, SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE IN FULL STAFF, THEY GO TO A LITTLE SHORTER TIMES WHERE AN OFFICER OR ONE-PERSON GOVERN THE WHOLE CITY HAS GOT TO TRAVEL BOTH SIDES.
NOTHING UNUSUAL IN THAT REPORT THAT CONCERNS US.
LET ME SKIP THROUGH THE RESPONSE TIMES OVER THE FIVE YEARS.
WE PRETTY MUCH KEPT CONSISTENT IN THERE, WITH 2020 BEING A LITTLE LESS BECAUSE WE HAD LESS PEOPLE OUT AND ABOUT NO TRAFFIC ON THE ROADWAYS, NO STUFF BECAUSE OF COVID.
ACCIDENTS, THEY'RE SIMPLY THAT ACCIDENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM EVERYWHERE.
WE TRY TO FOCUS IN THE AREAS OF PATROL WHERE THOSE ARE OCCURRING.
WE'RE ALSO USING THOSE SPEED CONTROL DEVICES THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE TO TELL US IDEAL TIMES TO WORK THOSE AREAS FOR ISSUES AND IT SEEMS TO BE HELPING SOMEWHAT.
WE WENT FROM 21 ACCIDENTS TO 18 IN THE LAST YEARS.
INVESTIGATIONS, THEY'RE PRAYING PRETTY CONSISTENT AS WELL.
WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF DIFFERENT CASES IN BUT THE CLEARANCE RATES ARE DECLINING BECAUSE STAFFING ISSUES, THE ONE GUY THAT WE HAVE DOING INVESTIGATIONS CAN'T FOCUS ALL OF HIS TIME ON THAT BECAUSE HE'S HAVING TO SPEND PART OF HIS DIME ON PATROL SO THAT INVESTIGATION CLEARANCES ARE GOING BACKWARDS A LITTLE BIT.
WE EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE UNTIL WE GET BACK TO STAFF.
ALARMS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE IN THE WAY THAT YOU SEE ALARMS. THROUGH PART OF LAST YEAR, THE WAY WE WERE CATEGORIZING ALARMS OUTSIDE THE CITY OF PARKER, WE WERE STILL LOGGING THEM AS OURS WHERE WE ASSISTED MURPHY WITH A BUSINESS OR COLLIN COUNTY WITH A BUSINESS.
SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE.
HOWEVER, WE'VE DONE AWAY WITH TRACKING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE SIMPLY NOT OURS.
WE TRACK THOSE AS AN AGENCY ASSIST.
THE BUSINESS NUMBER IS GOING TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT YEAR, SO YOU'LL SEE A DECLINE IN BUSINESS.
THEN RESIDENTIAL ALARMS, WE NO LONGER TRACK THE ONES WE RESPOND TO IN OUR ALARM LOGS FOR OUTSIDE THE CITY, BUT WE STILL TRACK THEM AS CALLS FOR SERVICE.
THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN THIS ALARM REPORT WILL BE STRICTLY PARKER ALARM CALLS THAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO.
ANIMAL SERVICES IS INTERESTING [LAUGHTER] QUANDARY FOR ALL OF US.
THERE'S NO REALLY CONSISTENT WAY TO GIVE YOU OTHER THAN JUST WHAT WE DO.
WE'VE TRIED TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE BY HAVING OFFICERS RESPOND FIRST AND SEE IF IT'S GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT FOR ANIMAL CONTROL FROM MURPHY TO COME AT AN EXPENSE.
THOSE THAT WHERE THEY DO, THEN WE'LL CALL THEM SO THAT WE'VE CHANGED THAT PROCESS UP A LITTLE BIT AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE HELPED, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING DOWN IN ANIMAL CALLS A LITTLE BIT.
CITATIONS, WHICH IS ALL PART OF THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.
IN DECEMBER AND NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN.
WE'VE HAD STAFF OUT SICK, AND WE'VE HAD STAFF OUT HURT.
BUT MOVING INTO THIS YEAR, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE ALREADY INCREASED DRAMATICALLY.
THEN THE SPEED TRAILERS AGAIN IS HELPING GIVE THEM DIRECTED TIMES TO WORK TO TARGET PROBLEM AREAS.
THEN WE STILL HAVE THESE ONGOING EVENTS SUCH AS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT THAT WE ENJOY SPENDING ALL THE TIME WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE THE SPEED DEVICES WHERE WE CAN MEASURE IN THREE DIFFERENT FORMS OF WHERE WE GET COMPLAINTS OF BREED PROBLEMS. THEN THE NATIONAL DRUG TAKE BACK, WHICH IS NO COST WHERE WE WORK WITH THE DEA.
THANK YOU, DIANA, AND CAN GET SOME OF THAT OFF THE STREET.
MOVING FORWARD INTO NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO UP OUR RECRUITING GAME BECAUSE WE ARE BEHIND AND SEE WHAT
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WE CAN DO TO GET PEOPLE THAT ARE WORTHY TO COME TO WORK HERE AND BE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR FAMILY.WE WANT TO DO A LITTLE MORE WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
I'VE BEEN TALKING OVER WITH SUPERVISOR STAFFS ABOUT ONCE A QUARTER TRYING TO DO LIKE COFFEE WITH A COP IN OUR BUILDING WHERE YOU WANT TO COME AND HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE AND VISIT WITH US, SIT DOWN, GET TO KNOW US.
THAT'D BE GREAT. I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD ADVANTAGE FOR THE CITIZENS TO GET TO KNOW THE OFFICERS AT WORK HERE.
[NOISE] THE OTHER THING IS I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO DO DRIVES FOR BOOKS AND TOYS AND OTHER COMMUNITY-RELATED STUFF.
WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THAT AND COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THEN MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO TRY AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMS. LASTLY, WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS WORLD'S GREAT SOCIAL MEDIA, AND THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN HAVE BETTER CONTACT WITH US.
I THINK THE TWO PLATFORMS THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY START WITH WOULD BE FACEBOOK AND HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE JUST FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEN MOST COMMUNITIES HAVE A NEXT-DOOR PROGRAM.
MAYBE GET ON THAT TO WHERE WE CAN COMMUNICATE BACK AND FORTH AS WELL.
I'M STAYING AS FAR AWAY FROM TIKTOK BECAUSE I CAN GET MA'AM, BUT I CAN'T EVEN SPELL IT.
THERE WE GO. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM.
>> WE GET TO WORK. THE DELHI AREA AND EAST PARKER AND PARKER AND HOGUE SEEM TO BE OUR TWO MAJOR AREAS FOR ACCIDENTS, AND THEN AGAIN AT BETSY AND DUBLIN.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE MOVED SPEED SIGNS DOWN TO BETSY AND DUBLIN TO SEE WHEN THE MOST TRAFFIC GOES THROUGH SO WE CAN HAVE AN OFFICER THERE AND THAT IS IMPACT THOSE ACCIDENTS IN THAT INTERSECTION A BUNCH.
THE NEXT THING WE STARTED DOING IS WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE DELHI AND EAST PARKER THAT WILL COME UP TO MAKE THE RIGHT TURN AND THEY DON'T STOP, THEY JUST KEEP ON TRUCKING AS REQUIRED BY LAW.
WE'VE HAD OFFICERS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN TARGETING RUNNING THAT RED LIGHT IN THE RIGHT TURN.
THAT HAS HELPED MITIGATE SOME OF THAT.
THERE'S NO REAL WAY TO SAY ANY OF IT, BUT DELHI AND ALL THE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.
THEN WHERE THEY DUMP OUT AND JUST GET IMPATIENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT TRAVELS THROUGH HERE AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
WE FIND IT REAL EARLY IN THE MORNING WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO WORK AND THEN LATE IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN THEY'RE GOING HOME.
WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP PLANS TO PUT OFFICERS IN THAT AREA TO HELP MITIGATE THAT.
>> HOW DO YOU NOTICE THE INCREASE IN ANY OF THOSE ACCIDENTS ESPECIALLY ON BOARD DUE TO THAT TRANS STOP ESPECIALLY THAT HAD A LOT OF ACCIDENTS, CAN YOU TELL ME THAT? [INAUDIBLE]
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THE TRUCK STOP LIES IN THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE HIGHWAY PATROL TO DO TRUCK INSPECTIONS WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING ON OUR ROADWAYS.
THEN WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH COLLIN COUNTY TO GO IN AND OUT OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR ETJ AND NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION.
THE ACCIDENTS THAT YOU SPEAK OF THERE, I WOULDN'T SAY THEY WOULD BE A MAJOR PROPONENT TO THE PROBLEM, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PROBLEM.
THERE'S A SECURITY GUARD THAT WORKS IN THERE THAT I'VE ACTUALLY TALKED TO, AND HE LED US TO BELIEVE WHEN MOST OF THE TRUCKS ARE GOING IN AND OUT, WE TRY TO GO THROUGH THERE.
COLLS BEING WHAT THEY ARE AND STAFFING BEING THE ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL EVER BE ABLE TO CONTROL IT UNTIL WE STOP IT.
>> HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OTHER CRIME IN COLLS?
>> NO. THE ONLY OTHER CALLS THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THERE WHERE WE ASSISTED THE COUNTY WAS ONE OF THE TRUCKS CAUGHT ON FIRE AND BURNED SEVERAL OF THEM IN THAT AREA.
THEN WE'D HAVE HAD REPORTS OF UNCONFIRMED REPORTS OF PROSTITUTION, BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN OBSERVED OR ANY ARREST OR ANY OF THAT MADE IN THAT AREA. YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF BOSS?
>> A VERY NICE PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY.
>> THE CRIME RATE PER CAPITA IS PRETTY INTERESTING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW WE COMPARE TO OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES?
>> WE'RE ACTUALLY QUITE LOW, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, COMPARED TO OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, BUT THOSE THAT SURROUND US ARE MUCH LARGER THAN WE ARE AND THEY ALSO HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS AREA THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
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ANY OF THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE ISSUES SUCH AS MARTIN STONE, THE TRUCK STOP, THOSE AREAS WE DON'T TRACK THAT INFORMATION, SO WE'RE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN MOST OF THOSE OR ACTUALLY ALL OF THEM, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.>> LUCAS IS PROBABLY THE CITY THAT'S MORE COMPARABLE TO PARKER.
>> THEY THROW IN THERE NOW BUT WE HAVE DROPPED IN OUR RESPONSES TO THEIR REQUESTS AT WALMART A LOT.
THAT IS ENCOURAGING TO US THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOT ENOUGH DEPUTIES TO WORK OVER THERE TO SLOW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT OR THEY'RE JUST NO LONGER CALLING US. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU.
>> YOU'VE GOT ON HERE ABOUT CITIZENS VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A MINUTE.
>> YES, MA'AM. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
WE HAD ACTUALLY LOOKED IN THE PAST OVER THE LAST YEAR ABOUT DEVELOPING A PROGRAM THAT COULD HELP WHERE WE GET CITIZENS OF PARKER INVOLVED IN WHAT WE DO.
THEN THAT VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY TO TAKE OUR CARS TO GET THEM WASHED IF THEY NEED TO BE WASHED OR TAKE IT TO GET A SHOP TO BE SERVICED.
SOME OF THOSE SHOPS ARE SUBSTANTIAL DISTANCES AWAY LIKE THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S PUT IN THEM AS DONE EITHER AT ALL STAIN OR AN ARGYLE, TEXAS.
IF SOMETHING REPAIR HAS TO GO TO THOSE PLACES, IT TAKES TWO OFFICERS OR TWO CITY STAFF AWAY FROM THEIR JOB TO DRIVE THEM OVER THERE, DROPPED THEM OFF, AND THEN GO BACK AND GET THEM.
THIS VOLUNTEER PROGRAM WOULD ACTUALLY HELP ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT FOR US AND THE CITIZENS CAN SEE WHAT WE DO OTHER THAN JUST POLICE WORK.
THERE'S A LOT GOES INTO THAT AND THEY CAN HELP IN THOSE WAYS.
THEY COULD HELP WITH SETTING UP ELECTION STUFF, MONITORING PARKING.
THEY CAN DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF FOR US.
THE OTHER THING, IF WE SO DESIRE TO MOVE INTO IT THAT THEY COULD DO WHAT'S CONSIDERED A CITIZENS ON PATROL.
NOW THAT'S A LONG WAY OFF AND A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS LATER, BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, IF AN OFFICER WAS SITTING BEHIND A BROKEN DOWN CAR ON THE ROAD AND HE GETS ANOTHER CALL AND HE'S THE ONLY ONE DUTY.
HE CAN'T GO TO THAT OTHER CALL WE HAVE TO INVITE SOMEBODY ELSE AND THOSE VOLUNTEERS COULD BE THERE TO GO SET WITH THAT CAR WHILE HE GOES AND DOES THE REAL JOB.
IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO ALL OF US.
BUT HONESTLY, ONE THAT GETS US TO INTERACT WITH THE CITIZENS THAT WE WORK FOR AND WITH.
THEN TWO, IT FREES UP SOME OF OUR STAFF TO DO WHAT THEY'RE HIRED TO DO AND THEN GIVE THESE INDIVIDUALS OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARS FOR OIL CHANGE OR CAR WASHES OR REPAIRS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
>> IT SOUNDS INTERESTING. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE POLICE REPORT FROM ANYBODY? THANK YOU CHIEFF.
>> AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL REPORT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO ACCEPT 2022 PARKER PD ANNUAL REPORT.
>> I'LL SECOND THAT MADAM MAYOR,.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THE 2022 PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL REPORT.
AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION NOT HEARING ANY I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO.
THANK YOU. THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL PASS IT ON TO MICHELLE.
SHE PUT A LOT OF HOURS AND WORK INTO THAT, SO I'LL PASS IT ON TO HER.
>> WELL, IMAGINE EVERYBODY IN THE DEPARTMENT THEY'RE ALL PUTTING IT A LITTLE BIT.
>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO WAIT RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS GOING TO INQUIRE ME AS WELL.
I'M GOING TO WAIT WHEN YOU DO THE NEXT AGENDA BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO REQUIRE ME AS WELL.
[5. PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON A CONTEMPLATED DONATION(S) TO THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM THE BERKSHIRE FECHT QUAIL CONSERVANCY, AND THE FECHT FAMILY.]
PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON A COMPTON PLOTTED DONATION TO THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM THE BERKSHIRE EFFECT QUELL CONSERVANCY AND EFFECT FAMILY.>> COME JOIN YOU IN THE HOT SEAT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO BY YOURSELF.
THIS IS EIGHT ON ONE. I DON'T THINK.
MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO PRIOR TO COVID, I STARTED ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR EFFECTIVE AS READINESS.
I FOUND OUT OUR BUDGET FOR AMO IS IN 6 AND 10,000 DOLLARS, THAT'S TO BE USED OVER 365 DAYS TO KEEP YOU SAFE WHEN YOU DIAL 911.
THAT'S NOT READINESS SO WHEN GLASS BREAKS AT YOUR HOUSE, NOT MINE AT THREE IN THE MORNING AND YOU DIAL 911, THEY'RE TRAINED AND READY TO COME IN WITHOUT ADRENALINE COMPLAINING, NO BLOOD PRESSURE MOVING,
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JUST THE MACHINE BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE IT SO MANY TIMES.THE IDEA WAS TO CREATE THE PARKER TOP COP.
THIS WAS BEFORE THE SECOND TOP GUN CAME OUT.
WE WANTED TO HAVE A PLAQUE THAT WE WOULD DONATE TO THIS CITY, ALONG WITH AND THAT WOULD BE THE TOP COP FOR 12 MONTHS.
A LOT OF BRAGGING RIGHTS, LITTLE MORE REASON TO GO TO THE RANGE, ETC.
WE WANTED TO SPONSOR AT THE RANGE OF YOUR CHOICE AND HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR PEOPLE NEED BETTER THAN US.
WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE SOME EXTRA FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THAT RANGE, HAVE THAT DAY, GO TO DINNER, AND JUST HAVE A LOT OF FUN AND SAY THANK YOU TO THEM.
THEIR DONATION WILL BE WAY IN EXCESS OF 500 LUKE AND I TALKED ABOUT AMMO GOING THROUGH THE ROOF, ETC.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE BETWEEN 4 AND 8,000 DOLLARS OR WHAT THE NUMBER IS BECAUSE WE'RE STILL IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS.
ON THE TIMELINE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY I STARTED TALKING TO CHIEF BROOKS ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND THEN HE HANDED ME OFF TO YOU AND I'VE HAD SOMEBODY CITIZENS AND YOU SHOULD BE OUR NEXT POLICE CHIEF.
DO YOU MIND IF I JUST CALL YOU POLICE CHIEF? WOULD THAT BE OKAY?
>> [LAUGHTER] I'M ASSUMING THAT'S UNDER 2023 CHRISTMAS LIST.
>> ABSOLUTELY. ACTUALLY, CHIEF BROOKS AND I, HE TALKED TO ME PROBABLY BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS YOU ALL HAD AND THEN PASS IT OFF TO ME AND I THINK SOMEWHERE ABOUT JUNE OR JULY OF LAST YEARS WHEN WE STARTED ACTUALLY COMMUNICATING ABOUT THIS.
THEN HIS UNTIMELY DEMISE OF LEAVING THE DEPARTMENT HAS LEFT IT TO ME AND THROUGH THAT, WE DO OUR ANNUAL QUALIFICATION THROUGH TEXAS LEGENDS AND THE WAY WE HAVE STRUCTURED IT IS TO PROVIDE A PROCESS OVER THE WHOLE YEAR TO TAKE OUR AUTHOR ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS SO THAT WE COULD WORK WITH THEM ANY WEAKNESSES THEY HAVE, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THIS PROGRAM WOULD FOLLOW ALONG WITH THAT AS HE MAKES THE DONATIONS TO THE CITY, WE'LL USE THOSE TO IMPROVE OUR OFFICERS AS WE'RE ALREADY DOING.
IT WOULD TAKE THE WHOLE ENTIRE YEAR FOR IN MY OPINION AND THIS IS FURTHER DETAILS BUT THAT WE WOULD GET TO THE END OF THE YEAR BEFORE THAT PLAQUE WILL BE CREATED.
THEN ONCE IT'S DONE, THEN THEY HAVE THE BRAGGING RIGHT FOR THE NEXT YEAR TO CARRY OVER THAT HE DONATES TO THE CITY.
>> THERE WOULD BE A DONATION TO THE CITY.
IT WOULD NOT BE A DIRECT DONATION TO ANY POLICE OFFICER OR ANY INDIVIDUAL.
OF COURSE, WE WOULD NEED COUNSEL TO TELL US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THIS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH NOT ONLY THE LAW, BUT THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW.
>> IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FIT IN TO ALL OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE.
COUNCIL, YOU'VE HEARD WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAUSES YOU PAUSE?
>> I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS WHAT YOU ALREADY HIT ON THAT THE DONATION BE SOMETHING THAT'S TO THE CITY AND NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PERCEIVED AS BEING TOO GIFTS TO INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS FROM THE FOUNDATION OR FROM YOUR FAMILY.
WHATEVER STRUCTURE THAT TAKES, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IN GREATER DETAIL.
>> I'M GREAT WITH THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MONEY. I'M GREAT WITH THAT ALL.
>> WELL, I THINK IT WOULD GIVE OUR OFFICERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOMETHING TO MOTIVATE THEM INTO SHOOTING A LITTLE EXTRA MORE THAN THEY ALREADY DO WITH US.
THEN, AS WITH ANYTHING, ANY FRIENDLY COMPETITION, GENERALLY GETS CAMARADERIE GOING BETWEEN THE STAFF AND I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR STAFF.
WE ARE A SMALL FAMILY AND WE ARE A FAMILY SO THAT'S I THINK THIS ALONG WITH HIS FAMILY WOULD BENEFIT US ALL.
>> JUST FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION, YOU WANT THIS TO BE ONLY PEOPLE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SOMEONE BEHIND ME IN A BURGUNDY SHIRT THAT'S BEEN WEARING ME OUT, THE ONES THAT SHOOT IN THIS.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR DIRECT ORDERS SIR.
>> IT WOULD BE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? YES. THEN WE CAN TAKE THE BURGUNDY SHIRT WITH US TO SCORE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER REED, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> NO. I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT IS THERE ANY BENEFIT AND IF IT WAS GOING TO BE OVER THE WHOLE YEAR WITH THE DONATION COME IN AND SEGMENTS AS OPPOSED TO COMING IN IN ONE FELL SWOOP, OR IS THERE ANY BENEFIT OF DOING THAT?
>> WE WOULD HAVE TO JUST GIVE THEM THE DETAILS ON THAT HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THAT FROM THIS POINT ON.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY THING AS A SUGGESTION THEN THAT MIGHT MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE PALATABLE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE OVER THE WHOLE YEAR, ACCUMULATE OVER THE END OF THE YEAR.
>> FIRST AND FOREMOST, FORMIDABLY TO GET YOU ALL'S OPINION AND TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D WANT US TO CONTINUE.
>> WE MAY DO IT IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
>> THE DONATION WOULD COME INTO THE CITY AND THE CITY WILL THEN BUDGETED BACK TO
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THE POLICE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THIS SPECIFIC TOP COP PROGRAM.>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT'S A MAGNANIMOUS GESTURE.
MR. FACT, ON YOUR HEART AND YOUR FOUNDATIONS PART, BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT MYSELF I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT ALL OFFICERS HAVE THAT READINESS PREPAREDNESS TRAINING AND ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE PRICE OF AMMUNITION AND WEAPONS IN GENERAL.
NOW, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE SOMEBODY DOING IT FOR THE CAUSE SO THANK YOU.
>> I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENEROSITY AND IN COMING FORTH WITH A GOOD IDEA LIKE THAT.
I JUST HOPE THAT IT REALLY HELPS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN. THANK YOU AGAIN.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THUS FAR.
IT SOUNDS LIKE AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM.
ANYTHING TO HELP ENCOURAGE OUR POLICE OFFICERS, INSPIRE THEM TO WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER IS A GOOD THING.
WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM YOUR FOUNDATION AND YOUR FAMILY.
I LOVE THE CAMARADERIE THAT WILL BUILD, THE MORALE AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF IT.
>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S AWESOME.
I THINK IT BENEFITS THE CITY GREATLY BECAUSE HOPEFULLY YOU WILL HAVE OFFICERS WHICH IF THEY NEED TO USE DEADLY FORCE, THEY WILL USE IT WHERE IT SHOULD GO AND NOT ANYWHERE [LAUGHTER] JUST ANY OLD PLACE.
>> CAN WE TAKE SOCKS, PUT TENNIS BALLS IN THEM AND HIT THEM WHILE THEY SHOOT AND GIVE MORE AND MORE PRESSURE.
[6. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON KING’S CROSSING PHASE 5 PRELIMINARY PLAT.]
>> ITEM NUMBER 6, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ON KING'S CROSSING PHASE 5, PRELIMINARY PLAT.
I BET THIS HAS PRESTON'S NAME ON IT.
>> YES, MA'AM IT DOES. [LAUGHTER]
PRESTONWOOD 4040 NORTH CENTRAL DALLAS, TEXAS, 75204.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME. HAPPY MARDI GRAS.
I'M SO GLAD WE'RE ALL AT A COUNCIL PARTY THIS EVENING.
[LAUGHTER] KING'S CROSSING PHASE 5 IS THE NEXT PHASE IN THE KING'S CROSSING MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE BUILDERS HAVE CONTINUED FROM PHASE 1 TO PHASE 2, TO PHASE 4, AND THEN ON TO PHASE 3.
[LAUGHTER] PHASE 5 WILL DELIVER THE NEXT SET OF LOTS FOR THEM TO CONTINUE THEIR BUILDING PROGRAMS. THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE WAITED TO BRING IT TO COUNSEL UNTIL THE LOMA FOR KING'S TRUSTING PHASE 3 WAS MADE EFFECTIVE BY FEMA.
WE NOW KNOW WHERE THAT LOMA LINE IS AND THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED IN THIS ENGINEERING DESIGN.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONGTIME COMING.
THEY'D BEEN WORKING ON ENGINEERING PLANS FOR A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS.
THIS PHASE WILL HAVE 36 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND THEN TWO COMMON AREA LOTS.
YOU WILL NOTE THAT AT THE TOP RIGHT-HAND CORNER OF THE PLAT THAT PARCEL RIGHT THERE IS BEING LEFT OUT OF THE PLAT INTENTIONALLY.
THAT FUTURE WILL BE TO RESIDENTIAL LOTS, BUT IT IS IMPACTED BY FLOODPLAIN TODAY.
RATHER THAN PLATING THEM AND THEN HAVING GARRY NOT ISSUE CO'S TO BUILD ON THEM.
WE JUST MADE THE DECISION THAT IT'S EASIER FOR THE CITY TO NOT INCLUDE THEM IN A PLAT AND WE'LL JUST CONSTRUCT THEM WITH PHASE 6 AT A LATER TIME.
THE 36 LOTS THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN THIS PHASE WILL BE READY TO BUILD UPON AT THE END OF THE PHASE.
THEN THE TWO COMMENTARY LOTS ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION AND THE EAST SIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION.
THE WESTERN COMMON AREA LOT IS THE PARKER LAKE ESTATES RETENTION POND THAT DRAINS INTO A FORMER AGRICULTURAL POND AND THAT WILL BE PARTIALLY CHANNELIZED IN TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AS WATER CONTINUES TO THE LARGE COMMENTARY LOT THAT IS ON THE EASTERN END OF THE TRACT THAT IS HANDLING THE FLOODPLAIN MITIGATION IN THAT AREA.
WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL ROUNDS OF REVIEWS IN BOTH A DRAINAGE STUDY, A DETENTION STUDY, AND ENGINEERING REVIEW WITH BIRKHOFF HENDRICKSON & CARTER.
ANDREW, I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T KNOW YOUR LAST NAME.
>> M-A-T-A, MATA. I CAN REMEMBER THAT.
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HE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO MR. BIRKHOFF'S COMMENTS OR MR. IVY OR MR. KIRCHOFF'S COMMENTS THROUGH THE PROCESS.BUT THEY WORKED THROUGH THIS OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME TO CONFIRM THAT THEY WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEER FOR THIS NEXT PHASE.
GARRY, DID I LEAVE ANYTHING OUT?
>> NO. YOU ADDED THE LARGE CHART.
>> ON PAGE 2 OF THE PLAT, THAT'S CORRECT.
IS PATTY DRIVING OR ARE WE DRIVING?
>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, GO INTO PAGE TWO ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, P&Z MADE A COMMENT THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO TRACK THE LOT NUMBERS IN SIZE.
WE HAD THE ENGINEERED GO AHEAD AND PUT A LOT SIZE TABLE ON HERE.
THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO HAVE ANYWAY, BECAUSE WHEN THE FINAL PLAT COMES IN WITH A RECORD DRAWINGS, THEY'LL ADD A CULVERT SIZING TABLE TO IT AS WELL, SO THAT THE BUILDERS KNOW WHAT ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF WHAT CULVERT GOES WITH WHAT LOT.
THEN IT'S ON A SINGLE CITY DOCUMENT THAT THE STAFF CAN REFER TO, RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO BACK AND FORTH FROM MULTIPLE SHEETS.
WE'RE LEARNING AND WE'RE TRYING TO HELP YOU SIMPLIFY.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER?
>> I HAVE A DRAINAGE QUESTION, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU.
>> SURE AND RYAN KING, THE DESIGN ENGINEER IS HERE AS WELL, AND WE HAND IT OFF TO WHOEVER YOU NEED TO.
>> I'VE HAD RESIDENTS WHO HAVE CONTACTED ME CONCERNING, I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFERENT PHASE, BUT PARTICULARLY PHASE 1 WHERE THEY'RE SEEING ONGOING ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA.
THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU IS, WHAT ARE YOU AS A DEVELOPER, AS A GROUP DOING TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS? HOW MUCH OF THAT IS THE RESIDENTS DECISIONS OF WHATEVER THEY DID TO THEIR PROPERTY THAT PERHAPS CONTRIBUTED TO THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM? HOW MUCH IS IN YOUR CONTROL OR WAS IN YOUR CONTROL DURING THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT?
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE SAME ISSUES DURING EACH PHASE.
SURE. TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE DRAINAGE DESIGN PROCESS, THIS STARTS VERY HIGH LEVEL AND YOU LOOK AT A DRAINAGE AREA MAP, THE CIVIL ENGINEER, AND THEN THE HYDROLOGISTS LOOK AT THIS MAP AND FIGURE OUT BASED UPON THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE.
RYAN, FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME AT ANY POINT IN TIME.
BASED ON THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE, WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT DRAINAGE AREA BASINS AND THIS WATER GOES HERE, THIS WATER GOES HERE.
FROM THAT POINT THEY CREATE A DRAINAGE DESIGN TO MOVE WATER FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
THAT IS THEN GONE THROUGH CIVIL ENGINEERING DESIGN.
THE DESIGN ENGINEER CONFIRMS HOW TO MOVE WATER FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
THEN THE CITY ENGINEER CONFIRMS THAT PROCESS WORKS SO THAT THEY AGREE WITH THE CALCULATION, THE SIZING, THE LAND ALLOCATION FOR THAT.
THEN ONCE IT'S CONSTRUCTED, THE DESIGN ENGINEER CONFIRMS THAT WHAT WAS CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE COMPLIES WITH THE DESIGN.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME THEY ISSUE A SET OF RECORD DRAWINGS.
HERE ARE THE DOCUMENTS OF RECORD FOR HOW THIS WAS DESIGNED.
AT THAT END POINT IN TIME, THE OWNERSHIP CHANGES TO A BUILDER OR A HOMEOWNER.
THAT'S WHERE IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED AS WHO'S TOUCHING AND WHO'S MODIFYING SOMETHING ON A LOT.
BUT THE ACTUAL DESIGN PROCESS IS DONE IN GREAT DETAIL.
THERE ARE SEVERAL REGISTERED PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ALL LICENSED AS ENGINEERS OR HYDROLOGISTS, WHO DETERMINE THE SIZE OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THE FLOW OF WATER FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
THEY ALL CONCUR BEFORE THE PROJECTS EVER STARTS.
THEY CONCUR AGAIN BEFORE THE CITY ACCEPTS THE FINAL PLAT.
>> WHAT CAN YOU DO NOW IF ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THE ONGOING CONCERNS IN THAT PARTICULAR PHASE? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE MORE.
>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT IT ON SOMETHING THAT'S RELEVANT TO THAT PHASE.
I AM CAREFUL TO ONLY TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC PHASE.
>> WE ONLY HAVE PHASE 5 ON THIS AGENDA.
>> BUT I'D WELCOME THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING TOO.
>> DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, MS. MEYER?
IN LOOKING AT THE MAP IN THAT LITTLE NOTCH UP ON THE TOP THAT YOU SAID IT'S NOT REALLY PART OF THIS PHASE BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN, CORRECT?
>> WHEN I LOOK AT THE MAP AND MAYBE I'M READING IT WRONG, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE FLOODPLAIN EXTENDS TO THE TWO LOTS OR THREE LOTS TO THE LEFT OF THAT. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THE FLOODPLAIN LINE SHOULD BE THIS DARK LINE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS COMING UP AND EXITING THE PROPERTY LINE.
>> RIGHT HERE? THOSE ARE DIFFERENT TOPOGRAPHY LINES AND THIS IS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE LOT IN THE PROPERTY LINE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING?
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>> CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT?
>> CAN YOU ZOOM IN IT ALL LUKE?
>> WHERE IT SAYS HUNDRED-YEAR FLOOD PLAIN AND THERE'S AN ARROW GOING TO THE DOTTED LINE TO THE LEFT. YOU SEE THAT?
>> THAT DOTTED LINE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT COMES DOWN INTO THOSE BLOCKS BUT IT MIGHT NOT.
>> BRIAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? DOES IT COME ONTO LOTS 28 AND 29 WITHIN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT OR IS IT ENTIRELY CONTAINED ON THE TWO LOTS THAT ARE NOT PLOTTED?
>> THAT LOT THEY DO COME DOWN INTO THOSE DRAINAGE EASEMENTS THERE ON THOSE TWO LOTS.
THE 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN FOR THE NATHAN D. MEYERS STUDY, BUT IT DOES NOT GET ACROSS THE PAD IN THAT AREA.
IT IS TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT IN THAT LOCATION.
>> BUT IT IS IN THE PROPERTY? CORRECT?
>> YES, IT IS AND IT'S ALSO ON THE LOT.
IF YOU GO SOUTH A LITTLE BIT DOWN, SO LOT 24 IT ACTUALLY HAS THE FLOODPLAIN ON THAT LOT AS WELL AND WHAT THE CITY AND THE REVIEW ENGINEERS LETTING US DO IS PROVIDE WHAT'S CALLED A LOMR F. IT'S A FILL WHERE WE CAN GET ONE LOT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN WITH FEMA.
WE GET FEDERALLY APPROVED WITH A SINGLE LOT WITHOUT HAVING TO CHANGE THE FLOODPLAIN LINE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ON LOT 24 RIGHT THERE SO THERE IS ONE LOT THAT IS BEING AFFECTED BY THE FLOODPLAIN, BUT THE CITY AND THEIR REVIEW ENGINEER HAS AGREED TO LET US DO A LOMR F, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT FEMA ALLOWS FOR, FOR A SINGLE LOT.
>> A TYPICAL FLOOD STUDY, YOU WILL DO A, WHAT'S CALLED A LOMR. IT'S A LETTER OF MAP REVISION AND THAT MAP REVISION, CORRECT? WE DID THAT ON PHASE 3, AND THAT IS WHERE WE PHYSICALLY CHANGED THE LINE OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND FEMA ACKNOWLEDGES IT, REVIEWS IT, AND THEY CHANGED THEIR LINE ON THEIR MAPS.
FOR A LOMR F, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS SAYING, I'M FILLING IN THIS FLOODPLAIN HERE AND YOU'RE TELLING FEMA THAT YOU'RE DOING IT AND SHOWING THEM HOW AND THEY ALLOW FOR THAT IF YOU PROVE THAT YOU'RE GETTING THAT HOUSE OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
THAT SATISFIES ANY MORTGAGE COMPANIES SAYING THAT THIS HOUSE IS NOT GOING TO FLOOD IN 100-YEAR STORM, SO THAT THEY'RE ON LOT 24 AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE KEEPING THOSE TWO LOTS OUT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD BECAUSE THAT LINE WOULD HAVE TO BE MOVED IN ORDER TO GET MORE THAN ONE LOT OUT IN THIS PHASE.
>> WHEN YOU RAISE I DON'T ABOUT THIS FORGIVE ME HERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER.
IF YOU RAISE THE ELEVATION OF LOT 24 THAT WATER HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.
OUR HYDROLOGIST AND I AM NOT THE HYDROLOGIST ON THIS PROJECT.
I DID THE DESIGN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, THE STREETS, THE WATER, THE SEWER.
WE HAVE A HYDROLOGIST THAT RUNS MODELS ON THESE CREEKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEY HAVE MODELED WHAT'S GOING TO OCCUR WHEN WE FILL LOT 24.
THEY KNOW WHERE THAT WATER'S GOING.
THEY'VE PROVEN THAT THEY'VE SENT IT TO THE CITY'S REVIEW ENGINEER.
THEY REVIEWED THEIR MODELS AS WELL AND WE'RE JUST NOT MOVING THE LINE.
THAT LINE IN REALITY WOULD GO AROUND THE PAD FOR LOT 24 BUT SINCE IT'S JUST FOR ONE LOT, FEMA ALLOWS FOR US TO NOT PHYSICALLY CHANGED THE LINE ON THEIR MAP BUT TO DO MORE THAN THAT, WITH THOSE LOTS NORTH OF THE CUL-DE-SAC, WE'RE WAITING UNTIL PHASE 6, WHEN THEY WILL COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER STUDY AND ACTUALLY MOVE THE LINE AGAIN WITH PHASE 6. MOST LIKELY.
>> ARE ANY OF THESE CHANGES DISCLOSED TO THE BUILDER OR THE HOMEOWNERS?
>> THEY HAVE TO BE, THEY ALL ARE.
>> WHEN SOMEBODY BUYS THAT HOUSE ON LOT 24, THIS IS NOT THE NATURAL POOL OF WATER.
>> THEY'LL KNOW THAT THE HOUSE HAS BEEN RAISED OUT OF THE FOOT.
THEY RECEIVE WHAT'S CALLED A FLOODPLAIN ELEVATION CERTIFICATE.
THAT IS A LETTER THAT STAMPED BY A HYDROLOGIST.
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IT SAYS THAT THE HOME HAS PAD HAS BEEN BUILT UP OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND HERE'S OUR CERTIFICATION THAT THAT IS CORRECT.THE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING THIS IN A 1, 2 STEP PROCESS IS THE LOMR, AS WE EXPERIENCED FOR KING STREET, TOOK A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS FOR THE WHEELS OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MOVE MOST EXPEDITIOUSLY TO STAMP A PIECE OF PAPER THAT HAD BEEN REVIEWED BY MULTIPLE ENGINEERS.
TO THE NORTH OF KINGS 5 IS KING'S CROSSING PHASE 6, WHICH HAS SIGNIFICANT FLOODPLAIN, AND IS ALREADY UNDERGOING A FLOOD STUDY.
THAT FLOODPLAIN COMES ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO THIS TRACT AND IS ALREADY BEING STUDIED.
IT'S PART OF THE NEXT PHASES FLOODPLAIN STUDY AND THIS ALLOWS THIS PHASE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND THEN WHEN KING'S CROSSING PHASE 6 COMES IN, FEMA WILL ACTUALLY MOVE THEIR LINE AGAIN AS THEY DID WITH KINGS 3.
IF YOU PULL UP A FEMA MAP, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE LINE IS NOW OVER OUTSIDE OF LOT 24.
>> THE REASON I'M ASKING IS IN THE KING'S CROSSING IS BEING BUILT UP NOW?
>> I SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESSING IT SO THE WHOLE TIME.
ON THANKSGIVING DAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, BUT WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF RAINFALL.
>> I DROVE DOWN LEWIS LANE IN THE TWO HOUSES IN THAT BACKUP TO LOUIS AT THE S CURVE, THERE WAS A LOT OF WATER THERE.
IT DIDN'T GET NEAR THE HOUSE, BUT IT WAS IN THEIR BACKYARD.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE FUTURE AND MAYBE THESE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BUT IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT EVEN IF YOU RAISE THE PAD, SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE A LAKE AROUND THE HOUSE.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? [LAUGHTER] IS THAT DISCLOSED ALSO FROM YOU TO OR THE BUILDER TO THE HOMEOWNER.
>> IT IS DISCLOSED IN GREAT DETAIL FROM US TO THE BUILDER.
I CANNOT CERTIFY WHAT ANY BUILDER DIES AFTER THEY TAKE CONTROL OF A LOT.
>> TERRY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
>> YES, I DO. IT IS FALL OFF OF COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER AND FORGIVE US BECAUSE YES, YOU ALL GET TO SEND IT OFF TO THE BUILDER AND WIPE YOUR HANDS ON IT BUT AS WE'VE SEEN IN MEETINGS MOST RECENTLY, PEOPLE COME BACK AND BRING IT BACK TO US AND THIS IS NOT US, THIS IS DEVELOPMENT AND THE BUILDER AND THEN THE HOMEOWNER.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU'RE TELLING US THAT IT HAS MOVED OFF OF THE PAD SITE.
I'M FOLLOWING YOUR BUILD LINES HERE AND IT DOES FALL STILL WITHIN THE BUILD LINES IF I AM SEEING THIS CORRECTLY IT'S VERY SMALL ON MY SCREEN BUT YOUR 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS STILL STAYING WITHIN THE BUILD LINES OF THE PROPERTY, CORRECT?
IT COMES ACROSS 24, IT COMES ACROSS AND I SEE THAT IT WAS IN THE OLD PHASE AS WELL, AND I'M FOLLOWING THAT BUILD LINE AND I KNOW YOU SAID THAT IT YELLOW MARK TO SHIFT IT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] SO SURE, COUNCIL SLAUGHTER SO, EACH LOT HAS A 100-FOOT BY 100-FOOT BUILDING PAD AND THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY SHOWN ON THE PLAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A LIMITATION THAT THE CITY.
[OVERLAPPING] MONITORS FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
THE FLOODPLAIN MAY COME ON TO THE LOT PAST THAT BUILD LINE, BUT IT IS NOT WHERE THE PAD IS LOCATED, WHICH IS HOW THE ENGINEERING IS DESIGNED.
THE PAD IS LOCATED AT THE 50-FOOT BUILD LINE AND THEN GOES 100 FEET BEHIND THAT, AND THEN THE CENTER OF THE LOT, THE PAD IS CENTERED ON THE CENTER OF THE LOT, IS GOING TO HAVE SPACE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PAD.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
>> IT DOES. I'M FAMILIAR WITH CONSTRUCTION TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE PLAT MAPPING WORKS BUT I GUESS I STILL HAVE CONCERNS SIMILAR THAT YOU'RE BUILDING THE PAD AND YOU HAVE RAISED LAND TO MOVE WATER, WATER GOES SOMEWHERE.
MY NEXT QUESTION WILL BE A FOLLOW-UP.
WHEN YOU FOLLOW THE 100-YEAR FLOOD, I NOTICED THAT IT DOES GO INTO 24 AND WHEN YOU ALTER THAT, IT'S GOING TO PUSH WATER MOST LIKELY TO PHASE 4 AGAIN, BASED ON THE TOPOGRAPHY OF YOUR MAP, WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING TO ALLEVIATE THAT ISSUE?
>> AGAIN, THAT'S ALL STUDIED BY THE HYDROLOGIST AND THAT QUESTION WAS ACTUALLY RAISED BY BIRKHOFF HENDRICKSON CARTER IN ONE OF THE REVIEW LETTERS.
THEY MODELED IT AND CONTINUE TO SHOW THE FLOW OF WATER IN THE DIFFERENT DRAINAGE AREA BASINS AND BIRKHOFF HENDRICKSON CARTER AGREED BASED ON THE MODEL WHERE THEY
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BELIEVE WATER WILL FLOW AND THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE DRAINAGE EASEMENT AROUND THAT LOT TO ACCOMMODATE ANY FLOW THAT WOULD BE COMING ONTO IT TODAY.AGAIN, A GENERAL STANDARD OF DEVELOPMENT IS THAT YOU CANNOT SEND MORE WATER SOMEWHERE THAT IT IS RECEIVING TODAY.
IF YOU'RE POURING A CUP OF WATER INTO A BOWL AFTER DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN POUR NO MORE THAN A CUP OF WATER INTO THAT BOWL.
YOU CAN POUR HALF A CUP, THAT'S FINE AND THE OTHER HALF A CUP HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WE'RE ASKED TO BE DETAINED AND RETAINED, BUT THERE IS NO MORE WATER GOING TO A LOCATION THAT IT IS RECEIVING TODAY.
>> MY LAST QUESTION IS GOING TO BE THE SAME ONE I ASK EVERY TIME YOU COME UP HERE.
WHAT IS THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND DID YOU FACTOR IN, WHAT I CALL THE WASTE LOT, THE 25X?
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR KING'S CROSSING REQUIRES A MINIMUM AVERAGE LOT SIZE FOR ALL LOTS.
IT IS NOT CALCULATED ON A PER-PHASE BASIS.
OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS.
>> I CALCULATED THAT AND IT'S A LITTLE SLIGHTLY OVER ONE ACRE.
>> WHICH AND I'M SORRY, I'M INTERRUPTING YOU NOW. I'LL SET THAT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD REQUEST THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER CONTINUE.
>> THAT BRINGS UP A QUESTION FOR ME IS, IF IT'S SLIGHTLY OVER AN ACRE AND THERE'S STREETS IN EASEMENTS AND ALL THAT, THE ACTUAL LOT SIZE IS LESS THAN AN ACRE?
>> NO, MA'AM. THE STREETS ARE NOT CALCULATED WITHIN THE LOT TABLE.
THE LOT TABLE CALCULATES IF IT'S AN ACRE, IT'S GOING TO COUNT FROM THE CORNER OF THE LOT WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF THE STREET, TO THE BACK OF THE LOT, AND AROUND WHICH IT'S GOING TO DRAW A BOX BUT IT'S NOT INCLUDING ANY PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
>> THE HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY, CORRECT.
LIKE MY HOME, I HAVE A LOT OF IT HAS A 20-FOOT EASEMENT FROM THE CITY ON THE FRONT OF IT AND IT'S CURRENTLY GRASS AND IT HAS A TREE IN IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF THEY WANTED TO MAKE THE ROAD WIDER, THAT OUT.
>> IF YOU TAKE 49.583 ACRES AND THEY'RE.
>> THIRTY SIX RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
>> THIRTY SIX RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
>> AND WERE THE OTHER LOTS INCLUDED IN THEIR CORRECT?
>> BECAUSE I COUNTED 38. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YES, MA'AM. THE REASON THAT IT'S MORE THAN 30 ACRES [OVERLAPPING] IS BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, IS NOT CALCULATED.
>> IT'S NOT CALCULATED IN THE [OVERLAPPING] LOT SIZE.
WHERE IT SAYS PRELIMINARY PLOT PHASE 5 [OVERLAPPING] 29.583 ACRES AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE STREETS?
>> THAT DOES INCLUDE THE STREETS.
THE LOT TABLE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE STREETS.
IF YOU ADD UP THE TOTAL SIZE OF THE LOTS IN THE LOT TABLE, YOU WILL ARRIVE AT SOMETHING LESS THAN 49?
>> YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GET IN. THEY'RE ALLOWED.
NET ONE ACRE GROSS 1.25 ACRES IS WHAT I REMEMBER FROM THAT GROUP.
>> YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THE GROSS IS DEFINED AS BASICALLY THE WHOLE PROPERTY SO ROADS, WASTE LOTS, ANYTHING THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THAT 1.25.
THEN THERE'S ALSO A COMMENT FROM JOHN MARKOFF, GARY, YOU WANT TO TOUCH BASES ON THAT ON STOPPING SHORT.
>> THERE'S AN AREA [NOISE] MAP WE CAN SHOW WE TALK ABOUT.
>> DO YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM MIC SO THAT HE CAN BE HEARD WHEN WE RECORD?
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>> THAT AREA WHERE LUKE'S CURSOR IS AT, RIGHT IN JUST A LITTLE SOUTH THERE, YEAH.
WHAT IS IT, PRESSED IN ABOUT 40 FEET?
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE LEFT OUT BECAUSE OF SOME DRAINAGE CONCERNS TO TRY TO GET ACROSS THE DRAINAGE THAT WILL BE COMPLETED WITH THE NEXT PHASE AND WE'RE WORKING ON AN AGREEMENT FOR THAT RIGHT NOW TO. [OVERLAPPING]
>> FOR THAT. WE JUST GOT THE ENGINEERING NUMBERS, I THINK TODAY, OR WAS IT YESTERDAY?
>> YESTERDAY. JOHN WAS GOING TO LOOK AT IT TODAY BUT I THINK HE GOT SIDETRACKED.
ANDREW, DID YOU HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THOSE ENGINEER?
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO, HE DIDN'T GIVE ME THOSE INFORMATION, JUST [BACKGROUND] SHORT.
>> YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET WATERS OF THE USA IN THAT AREA SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPER IS NOT DISTURBING ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE DISTURBING UNTIL A FULL STUDY IS COMPLETED AT THAT POINT.
>> WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT. GO AHEAD MR. SLAUGHTER.
I WAS ON THE LINE WHERE I WAS GOING TO GO NEXT BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE LOT TABLES AND THE MAPS BECAUSE USUALLY THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, BUT ACTUALLY, THE ACREAGE ON THE MAPS DOES MATCH YOUR LOT TABLE.
YOU WERE SAYING THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENT CALCULATION BETWEEN YOUR LOT TABLE AND YOUR MAP, BUT THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME.
THE 1.026 ON 20, SO IT IS LISTED ON THE THING I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT 27, IT'S 1.014.
>> THE SUMMATION IS JUST GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
I DON'T HAVE AN EXCEL TABLE TO SUMMIT REAL FAST.
BUT IF WE WERE TO ADD ALL OF THOSE UP, JUST GO DOWN THE LIST, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TOTAL 49 ACRES.
>> BECAUSE THERE'S LESS HYDROGEN A LOT THAT IS BEING PLOTTED.
>> MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION WAS, I KNOW OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS WHAT IT IS AND IT RELATES AND STATES RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
ARE YOU COUNTING 32X AND 25X THE TWO THROWAWAY LOTS, THE ONE THAT IS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND THE ONE THAT'S THE OTHER ONE IS ALSO A DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT YOU WEREN'T DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW? ARE YOU COUNTING BOTH OF THOSE AS RESIDENTIAL?
>> THEY'RE NOT COUNTED AS RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THEY HAVE TO DOUBLE 24-INCH CULVERTS THROUGH THERE JUST TO HANDLE THE WATER FLOW GOING THROUGH THOSE LOTS.
I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
>> REALLY THAT WAS ASKING FOR A DETAIL WHICH WE'RE GLAD TO PROVIDE.
THINGS LIKE THAT ARE VERY HELPFUL WHEN THE CITY ASK FOR THEM UPFRONT BECAUSE THEN THE DESIGN ENGINEER CAN PROVIDE IT AND THE BUILDER DOESN'T HAVE TO ASK HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DO THIS? IT'S DESIGNED BY THE DESIGN ENGINEER.
THE CITY'S CONSULTING ENGINEER CAN CONFIRM THAT.
THEN THE BUILDER HAS DIRECTIVE OF EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD BE BUILT THERE, INCLUDING A DIAGRAM.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
>> CLARIFY FOR ME THE FLOW OF WATER.
IS IT GOING TO THE, I GET MY BEARINGS MIXED UP BUT IS IT GOING TO THE SOUTHEAST AND THEN OUT TO LEWIS LANE.
>> THE MAJORITY OF THE WATER GOES DUE EAST TO LEWIS LANE AND THEN NORTH INTO THE CULVERTS UNDER LEWIS LANE THAT GOES INTO THE CITY OF LUCAS IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
THAT'S RIGHT WHERE THE CITY LINE IS.
I'M TRYING TO SEE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT JUST GOES EAST.
SOME OF THESE NORTHERN LIGHTS GO TO THE EXISTING CHANNEL THAT IS IN THAT DRAINAGE THAT 75-FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT ON THE REAR OF THOSE LOTS, 28 AND 29 AND SO ON.
ACTUALLY, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE LOTS SHOULD DRAIN FORWARD TO THE STREET.
THE STREET GOES OUT TO LOT 25X.
THE DITCHES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET GO OUT TO 25X.
THEN ACROSS TO THE NORTHEAST, THEY GET INTO THAT MAJOR CHANNEL OVER THERE, ROUGHLY WHERE THOSE EASEMENTS ARE HITTING THE NORTH CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE THE CONTOURS AND IT GETS TO BE A LOT MORE CONTOURING OVER THERE. YEAH.
>> IT'S RIGHT IN THERE IS WHERE I WOULD SAY ABOUT 90 PERCENT OF OUR DRAINAGE ACTUALLY HITS THAT POINT RIGHT THERE WHERE THE CURSOR IS, AND THEN GOES DIRECTLY INTO THOSE LARGE CULVERTS.
WHICH HAVE ALSO BEEN MODELED AS PART OF THE FLOOD STUDY IN KING'S CROSSING PHASE 3.
AGAIN WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
>> I JUST NEED TO GET RIGHT THERE.
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ONCE IT CROSSES LEWIS, IS THAT IN THE BACK OF THE LUCAS SUBDIVISION THAT HAS THE BACKSIDE TO LEWIS LANE?>> CORRECT. IT DOES GO DOWN THERE AND GO ALONG THE REAR OF SOME LOTS THAT ARE IN LUCAS AND THIS CREEK ACTUALLY DOES COME BACK THROUGH AT KING'S CROSSING PHASE 3, IS IN THE REAR OF THOSE LOTS AS WELL.
IT COMES BACK INTO THE CITY OF PARKER FOR A SHORT WHILE BEFORE LEAVING BACK INTO LUCAS.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE NAME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT LUCAS THAT IT GOES BACK INTO THAT'S ALSO, THEY'VE STUDIED THAT AS WELL DOWNSTREAM.
I THINK I CAN'T REMEMBER THE ENGINEER THAT DID THAT STUDY, BUT WE HAD TO LOOK AT LUCAS'S STUDY AND THEN OUR HYDROLOGIST HAD TO MATCH IT AND THEN MODEL IT ALL THE WAY UP TO LUCAS ROAD.
WE'VE MODELED IT ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO LUCAS ROAD, THIS CREEK THROUGH HERE, AND HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO AFFECT THAT CREEK THERE.
>> I'M SORRY, ONE MORE QUESTION.
>> WHEN YOU CALCULATE KING'S CROSSING THREE, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LEWIS AND IT'S BEING DEVELOPED OR BUILT ON NOW, IS THE OVERFLOW FROM THIS GO INTO THAT SUBDIVISION OR THE BACK OF THAT SUBDIVISION? IF SO, WAS THAT ANTICIPATED WHEN THOSE LOTS WERE SOLD?
>> WHEN WE DESIGNED THIS DEVELOPMENT HERE, WE HAD TO ACTUALLY OVER DETAIN ON THE FAR WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY.
IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE OTHER SIDE ON THE SCREEN, THERE WAS AN EXISTING RETENTION POND THAT PARKER LAKER STATES HAD BUILT RIGHT HERE.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY MODIFIED THIS POND.
WE'VE REDESIGNED THE OUTFALL STRUCTURES FOR THAT TO DETAIN MORE WATER IN IT SO THAT WE'RE NOT RELEASING ANY MORE WATER INTO THE CREEK THAN WHAT'S GOING THERE TODAY.
WE WERE ACTUALLY SENDING THE SAME OR LESS WATER THAN WHAT WE WERE SENDING BEFORE.
THEREFORE THERE'S NO MORE WATER GOING DOWN TO KING'S CROSSING PHASE 3T.
THE HYDROLOGIST THAT DID THE FLOOD STUDY ON KINGS 3, IS THE SAME HYDROLOGIST THAT DID THIS ONE.
HE'S MODELED IT AGAIN AFTER POST-DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PROJECT TO SHOW THAT KINGS 3 IS NOT BEING AFFECTED DOWNSTREAM BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
>> JUST IN SUMMARY, THAT RETENTION POND IS ENHANCED SO THAT IT CAN COLLECT MORE WATER ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OF EITHER THE NEWEST EDITION HERE OR THREE, THE AMOUNT OF WATER THROUGH THE HYDROLOGISTS IS GOING TO BE CONSERVED FROM WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF IT WAS ONLY KING'S CROSSING 3.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING, CORRECT?
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR PRESTON AT THIS TIME? YOU LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD A QUESTION.
>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU PASS THEM OR ACCEPT TO PASS THE PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR KING'S CROSSING PHASE 5.
>> THANK YOU. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, GARY, DID THIS GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING?
>> OKAY. WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THAT?
>> THEY RECOMMENDED MOVING IT TO COUNCIL.
DID THEY HAVE ANY ISSUES ON ANYTHING THAT THEY NOTED?
>> THEY HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE THOSE IN THE P&Z MEETING.
>> OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF COUNCIL ON KING'S CROSSING PHASE 5? IF NOT, THEN I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CONSIDERATION OF KING'S CROSSING PHASE 5 PRELIMINARY PLAT.
>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE KING'S CROSSING PRELIMINARY.
EXCUSE ME, KING'S CROSSING PHASE 5 PRELIMINARY PLAT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THAT.
>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE KING'S CROSSING PHASE 5 PRELIMINARY PLAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
NEXT, WE HAVE MR. OLSON YOU'RE UP WITH AN UPDATE.
[7. UPDATE(S):]
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>> WELL, THE PARKER LAKES DRIVEWAY GOT COMPLETED TODAY AND THEY'RE WORKING ON.
>> CURTIS. YEAH. THEY WERE WORKING ON IT WHEN I WAS COMING FROM SIGN TO GET A SODA.
SO THOSE DRIVEWAYS SHOULD BE COMPLETELY REPAIRED.
IT DID LOOK [OVERLAPPING] PARKER VILLAGE SORRY.
I THINK THEY HAD ONE SIDE STILL SHUT DOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT.
>> THEY DID BECAUSE OF THE THICKNESS OF THE [OVERLAPPING]
>> SO THEY LET THAT CURE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, SO OKAY.
LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON NOW, NORTH TEXAS' WATERLINE IN CERTAIN AREAS OUTSIDE OF PARKER, STILL HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM ELECTRIC PROVIDERS WHEN THEY'RE MOVING.
I KNOW NORTH TEXAS IS CLEANING UP THEIR MESS AS WE SPEAK.
I KNOW THEY'VE STARTED DOING SOMEWHAT OF A DECENT JOB, CLEANING UP WHAT THEY'VE GOT.
STILL, EVEN THE ROAD'S DIRTY, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, EVERYTHING SEEMS LIKE IT'S MOVING FAIRLY QUICKLY.
THEN GARY, HAVE THEY REVIEWED OUR PLANS?
>> I WAS ON A CALL WITH TEXSTON THIS MORNING AND THEY NEEDED SOME CLARIFICATION ON SOME STUFF THAT I WAS ABLE TO SEND OVER TO THEM TODAY AND [INAUDIBLE] IT WAS MOVING.
>> SO HAVE ALL THAT STUFF DONE.
SO OUR CROSSINGS AND LOWERING SHOULD BE.
>> ALSO GOT SOME CONTRACTORS THAT ARE [OVERLAPPING].
>> BEFORE THEY GET THEIR DESIGN INCLUDED.
>> SO WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES HOLDING THIS PROJECT UP.
[8. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $500)]
WE WILL MOVE FROM DONATIONS TO THE CITY.ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS FOR POLICE FUND AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD, JERRY DURO DONATED $100 CASH TO THE PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
YING YANG KATHRYN LEE DONATED CHIPS, A 12-PACK GREEN TEA, AND A 12-PACK OF STRAWBERRIES AND CREAM DR. PEPPER, VALUED AT APPROXIMATELY $36 TO THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE THANK OUR DONORS VERY MUCH.
NOW, WE WILL HAVE OUR WATER RIGHTS STUDY. OKAY.
>> MADAM MAYOR, JUST ONE POINT OF ORDER.
I THINK YOU MISSED ONE OF THE DONATIONS.
>> STOPPED 12 PACK OF STRAWBERRIES AND CREAM, DR. PEPPER VALUE.
>> IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, MADAM MAYOR, I'LL READ IT.
ALYSSA AGUILAR DONATED CHIPS AND GATORADE, VALUED AT APPROXIMATELY $30.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE WE GO THE WORKSHOP,
[9. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
I WILL GO AHEAD AND ASK ARE THERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO NOTE AT THIS TIME?>> MAYOR, IF I MAY, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW IT WOULD WORK, BUT I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING WHERE AS PRESTON SO KINDLY MENTIONED THAT SOMETIMES RESIDENTS AREN'T MADE AWARE OF THERE.
HE CAN'T GUARANTEE WHAT BUILDERS DO AFTER IT TRANSFERS OF DOING SOME FORM OF WORKSHOP OR AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE INVITE SOME BUILDERS AND TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THEIR POLICIES AND THE WAY THAT THEY CAN COMMUNICATE THE DRAINAGE TO RESIDENTS.
I KNOW THAT DRAINAGE IS A MASSIVE OF ORDEAL IN OUR CITY AND IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR RESIDENTS AND CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL.
I THINK IT MIGHT DO US VERY WELL TO HAVE THEM COME IN AND DISCUSS THIS WITH THOSE RESIDENTS.
BEING A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS I'VE HEARD RECENTLY OR NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT NECESSARILY JUST OLDER PARKER NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? AS YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING, RIGHT NOW, IF YOU DO THINK OF ANYTHING, JUST SHOOT ME AN EMAIL AND WE'LL GET IT DONE.
NOW WE'LL GO TO OUR WORKSHOP ON WATER RIGHTS.
[10. WATER RATE]
YEAH, LOOK WHO WE HAVE WITH US.I'M VICE-PRESIDENT OF WILLDAN FINANCIAL SERVICES.
I'VE GOT WITH ME A DENTIST GIRL WITH WILLDAN ALSO.
WE HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING THE CITY'S WATER RATE CONSULTANTS FOR ABOUT THE LAST SEVEN YEARS NOW.
WE DID A STUDY SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND THEN WE WERE ENGAGED TO LAST YEAR TO DO AN UPDATED AND NEW WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES STUDY.
I DID A PRESENTATION BACK IN DECEMBER WHERE WE WENT OVER A LOT OF THE DETAILS.
SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS RATHER HURRIEDLY BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS BEFORE AND THE NUMBERS HAVE NOT CHANGED AT ALL SINCE OUR DECEMBER PRESENTATION.
BUT I DO WANT TO REITERATE A COUPLE OF PRETTY IMPORTANT THEMES.
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THAT IS THAT THE ISSUE IS THAT YOU'RE FACING WITH REGARDS TO YOUR WATER RATES ARE ISSUES THAT CITIES ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS AND ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES ARE FACING.YOU TRY TO RUN YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER OPERATION LIKE A BUSINESS.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WANT THE REVENUES FROM YOUR RATES TO COVER ALL THE COSTS OF PROVIDING THAT SERVICE.
WELL, ALL OF US WHO RUN BUSINESSES UNDERSTAND THAT COSTS GO UP AND COSTS HAVE GONE UP.
THEY'VE GONE UP PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE WATER INDUSTRY.
AND YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO PASS THOSE COSTS THROUGH TO YOUR RATE PAYERS IN A MANNER THAT WILL GET YOU THE REVENUES THAT YOU NEED, WHILE AT THE BEST EXTENT POSSIBLE, MINIMIZING THE IMPACT ON YOUR RATE PAYERS.
NOW WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE IN THE CITY? WELL, THE CITY HAS ACTUALLY GOTTEN A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE IT'S DONE ITS LAST WATER RATE ADJUSTMENT.
YOU DID YOU LAST RATE ADJUSTMENT IN THE YEAR 2020.
HOWEVER, SINCE THEN, THE NATIONAL INFLATION RATE HAS REALLY SPIKED UP.
INFLATION RATES ABOUT 7-8 PERCENT RIGHT NOW. GUESS WHAT? THAT NOT ONLY MAKES THE COST OF EXIT THE GROCERY STORE MORE EXPENSIVE, IT ALSO MAKES YOUR WATER MORE EXPENSIVE.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT IS IMPACTING THIS LONG-TERM RATE PLAN IS THE FACT THAT YOU PURCHASE ALL YOUR WATER FROM NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AND THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND RESELL IT TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
WELL, NORTH TEXAS HAS ANNOUNCED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT RATE INCREASES 10-13 PERCENT A YEAR FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
WELL, WHEN YOUR MAIN SUPPLIERS COSTS GO UP, YOU HAVE TO PASS THOSE COSTS STUDIO RATE PAYERS.
THEN FINALLY, THE UTILITY HAS PLANS TO FUND ABOUT $12.4 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
WATER SYSTEMS ARE EXPENSIVE, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN AND THEY BREAK DOWN OVER TIME AND YOU HAVE TO CONTINUALLY REINVEST IN THAT SYSTEM.
THIS $12 MILLION WILL GO TOWARDS THE FUTURE OF THE CITY, BUT IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE IT TO BE REIMBURSED FROM YOUR RATE PAYERS.
ALL OF THOSE FACTORS TOGETHER ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE NEED FOR THE TOWN TO DO A NEW RATE PLAN.
THIS IS JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHAT YOUR CURRENT RATES ARE RIGHT NOW.
CUSTOMERS PAY A COMBINATION OF A BASE RATE AND A VOLUMETRIC RATE.
THEY PAY A BASE RATE OF $40 FOR WHICH THEY GET THE FIRST 4,000 GALLONS AND THEN THEY PAY A VOLUMETRIC RATE THAT'S BASED ON AN INVERTED BLOCK RATE.
THE MORE YOU USE, THE MORE YOU PAY.
IT'S INTENDED TO ENCOURAGE CONSERVATION.
ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, YOU ONLY HAVE A FEW HUNDRED WASTEWATER CUSTOMERS AND THOSE CUSTOMERS PAY ABOUT $78 A MONTH FOR WASTEWATER SERVICE.
A COMMON QUESTION THAT'S ASKED IS, HOW DO YOUR RATES COMPARE TO YOUR NEIGHBORS? WELL, THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON OF YOUR WATER RATES FOR 10,000 GALLONS OF WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE, THAT'S A LITTLE BELOW THE AVERAGE HERE IN THE CITY OF PARKER, YOUR AVERAGE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 15,000 GALLONS, BUT 10,000 IS A REASONABLE BENCHMARK.
AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU ACTUALLY, ON THE WATER SIDE, COMPARE PRETTY FAVORABLY TO MOST OF YOUR NEIGHBORS.
A CUSTOMER USING 10,000 GALLONS OF WATER PAY $66 A MONTH FOR THAT SERVICE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'RE LOWER THAN MOST OF YOUR NEIGHBORS, LITTLE HIGHER THAN FRISCO AND WALK ROCK WALL BUT YOU'RE LOW OR THAT JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND NOTABLY YOU'RE ABOUT $17 BELOW THE STATE AVERAGE.
SO YOUR RATES ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW COMPARE PRETTY FAVORABLY TO THE REST OF THE STATE.
SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME BRIEF BACKGROUND ON VOLUMES AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR RATE ALTERNATIVES.
AND I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO MR. GORE.
>> HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DENNIS GORE.
I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU FIRST ABOUT THE ACCOUNTS AND BILLING UNITS.
THEN WE'LL SWITCH UP THE COST OF SERVICE, AND WE'LL FINISH OFF WITH THE THREE SCENARIOS WE'RE PRESENTING YOU IN DECEMBER.
SO WHAT ARE ACCOUNTS CURRENT? IN TEST YEAR 2022, WE HAVE ABOUT 2,032 ACCOUNTS.
TO NO SURPRISE, THE MAJORITY OF IT IS RESIDENTIAL WITH ABOUT 1,895 ACCOUNTS.
ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, YOU ONLY HAVE ABOUT 423 ACCOUNTS.
BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE GROWTH THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING AND FORECASTING IS ABOUT 61 NEW ACCOUNTS PER YEAR, WHICH TRACKS PRETTY CLOSELY TO THE INFORMATION WE GOT FROM STAFF AND HISTORICAL GROWTH AS WELL.
LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
IN TEST YEAR 2022, WE SOLD ABOUT 426 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT HOW MUCH YOU'VE PURCHASED.
THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU BUILT FOR YOUR CUSTOMERS IN THE CITY.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING THIS TO REACH ABOUT 541 MILLION BY FISCAL YEAR 2031, WHICH IS ABOUT A 2.7 PERCENT ANNUAL AVERAGE INCREASE.
IN REALITY, THOUGH, THOSE RED BARS ARE GOING TO GO UP AND DOWN BASED ON WEATHER PATTERNS OF THAT YEAR.
A WETTER YEAR, WE'LL HAVE LESS WATER SOLD AND HOTTER YEAR WE'LL HAVE MORE WATER SOLD.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WHAT ARE THE MAJOR FACTORS THAT ARE AFFECTING THE NEED FOR RATE INCREASES IN THE CITY? FIRST OF ALL, IS YOUR WHOLESALE ASSUMPTIONS.
NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT PROVIDES ALL THE TREATED WATER TO THE CITY AND TREATS ALL THE WASTEWATER FOR THE CITY AS WELL.
THEREFORE, CASTING THAT FOR THE WATER RATE, THEY'RE INCREASING IT BY ABOUT 11-13 PERCENT PER
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YEAR UNTIL 2024 AND ABOUT 5-9 PERCENT AFTERWARDS.ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, IT'S EVEN HIGHER INCREASES WERE 12-20 PERCENT PER YEAR UNTIL 2025, WITH LOWER INCREASES AFTERWARDS AS WELL.
THE SECOND FACTOR IS THE INFLATION.
INFLATION HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER RECENTLY THAN HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY.
WE ARE TAKING THAT A LITTLE BIT INTO CONSIDERATION AND HAVE HIGHER INFLATION RATES IN 2023 AND 2024.
BUT THEN WE ARE ALL HOPING IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO NORMAL AND WE'RE GOING TO BE USING A THREE PERCENT INFLATION RATE FOR THAT.
THE LAST MAJOR FACTOR IS YOUR WATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OF ABOUT 12.4 MILLION.
WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT YOU THREE SCENARIOS.
SCENARIO 1 IS GOING TO ASSUME THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ISSUE THAT FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OF 12.4 MILLION, MAJORITY OF THE FUNDED WITH LONG-TERM DEBT.
SCENARIO 2 IS GOING TO ASSUME THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ISSUE ANY DEBT TO FUND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, BUT YOU'RE JUST GOING TO USE YOUR RATE REVENUE TO PAY FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
SCENARIO 3 RELATES TO SCENARIO 1 WHERE YOU WILL ISSUE DEBT BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM CHARGE.
YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO INCREASE THE VOLUMETRIC TIERS TO PROVIDE SOME SUPPORT FOR THE LOW VOLUME USERS. LET'S GO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO WHAT IS YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN? AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S RIGHT NOW, IT'S SPREAD OUT IN BAR CHART BETWEEN THE YEARS.
YOU HAVE SMALL ITEMS IN 2024 SMALL ITEM IN 2026.
ANOTHER KIND OF A SMALL ITEM AT 2027 BUT THE MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN 2025 FOR SIX MILLION, WHICH IS FOR WATER LINE.
ANOTHER ONE IS IN 2029 FOR ANOTHER SIX MILLION, WHICH IS FOR A WATER TANK.
IN SCENARIO 1 AND 3, WE'RE ASSUMING THAT YOU WOULD ISSUE SIX MILLION IN 2025 AND SIX MILLION IN 2029 TO FUND THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO THIS IS YOUR COST OF SERVICE COMBINED FOR BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER.
SO IN TEST YEAR 2022, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT BELOW FOUR MILLION.
WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO REACH THE FISCAL YEAR 2031, ABOUT $8 MILLION.
LET'S LOOK AT THE COLORS. THE RED COLOR IS NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.
GREEN IS YOUR CURRENT DEBT AND PURPLE IS FUTURE DEBT FOR SCENARIO 1 AND 3.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE RED AND TEST YEAR 2022 WAS ALMOST 60 PERCENT OF YOUR TOTAL COST OF SERVICE.
EVERY YEAR THAT RED PORTION IS GOING TO BE HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER AND WILL REACH PROBABLY ABOUT 65-66 PERCENT OF YOUR TOTAL COST OF SERVICE BY FISCAL YEAR 2031.
LET'S LOOK AT THE SCENARIOS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO SCENARIO 1, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU IMPLEMENT THE FIVE-YEAR RATE PLAN, WHICH HAS THE RATES GO IN AND EFFECT IN OCTOBER OF EVERY YEAR.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SET IN STONE.
YOU CAN GO IN ANY YEAR AND CHANGE IT, BUT THEY DO NOTHING APPROACH IS IT WILL GO INTO EFFECT AND YOU WILL GET THE REVENUES AND NEED TO RUN YOUR UTILITY.
WE ASSUME NO CHANGE IN THE RATE STRUCTURE.
WE ASSUME SAME PERCENTAGE TO THE BASE AND VOLUME RATES ARE APPLIED, AND YOU'RE GOING TO FIND $12 MILLION OF YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT WITH THAT 20-YEAR TERMS AND FOUR PERCENT INTEREST.
>> NOW, DENNIS, CAN YOU STOP RIGHT THERE?
>> SORRY. WE CAN MOVE THAT DEBT WHEN IT'S ISSUED AROUND TO.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ISSUED IN YEAR 4.
IT COULD WAIT UNTIL YEAR 10 AND DO 12 MILLION, CORRECT? IF WE HAD TO DO AT THAT POINT, THIS WAS JUST GIVING US A STARTING POINT.
>> WHAT HAD TO BE ISSUED DURING THAT TIME PERIOD.
>> LET'S LOOK AT THE RATE INCREASES FOR THE RATES.
YOUR MINIMUM CHARGE IS GOING TO GO UP FROM $40 THIS YEAR TO ABOUT $43.60.
BY THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 IS GOING TO REACH $59.32.
WE RECOMMEND THAT YOUR VOLUME RATE FOR YOUR FIRST YEAR IS GOING TO GO UP FROM $4.35 TO $4.74.
BY FISCAL YEAR 2027 IS GOING TO REACH $6.45.
THE OTHER TIERS HAVE SIMILAR PERCENTAGE INCREASES, JUST DIFFERENT DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT YOUR OUTSIDE CITY CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO GET A PREMIUM OF 10 PERCENT WITH THIS APPROVAL.
THEN ON THE WASTEWATER RATES, YOUR CURRENT RATE OF $78.98 IS GOING TO GO TO $86.88, AND BY FISCAL YEAR 2027 IS GOING TO REACH $123.75.
THIS IS ALL GOOD AND WELL, LET'S LOOK HOW IT AFFECTS YOUR ACTUAL BILLS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. [LAUGHTER] I THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST WAITING FOR THE POLICE. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE.
[BACKGROUND] WHEN WE LOOKED AT COMPARISONS, THAT WAS YOUR ABOUT AVERAGE 10,000 GALLON WATER USER.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE PAYING $66.10.
WITH THIS RATE INCREASE, THEY'RE GOING GO UP TO ABOUT $72 AND FIVE CENTS FOR ABOUT $5-6 INCREASE, WHICH EQUALS ABOUT NINE PERCENT.
A LITTLE BIT LOWER PERCENTAGE ADJUSTMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, 25, 26, AND 27.
THE DOLLAR INCREASE IS JUST BECAUSE YOUR BILL IS NOW HIGHER, BUT THE PERCENTAGE IS GOING TO DECREASE A LITTLE BIT FROM 9-8%.
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OF COURSE, THE MORE YOU USE, THE MORE DOLLAR AMOUNT INCREASES YOU HAVE WITH THE PERCENTAGE REMAINS ABOUT THE SAME.IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS PLAN, YOUR AVERAGE BILL OF $66.10 IS GOING TO GO UP TO 72.05.
AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'RE COMPARING VERY FAVORABLY TO YOUR SURROUNDING CITIES, YOUR WAY BELOW YOUR SAMPLE AVERAGE AND I CAN PROMISE YOU THIS, A LOT OF THESE CITIES ARE LOOKING FOR RATE INCREASES AS WELL.
>> IF I CAN STOP ME JUST ONE SECOND, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE PREVIOUS.
I'M JUST DOING A CUMULATIVE FROM 22-26.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 42 PERCENT INCREASE IN WATER RATES CUMULATIVELY FROM 22-26. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
>> THAT'S CORRECT AND THAT TRACKS VERY CLOSELY.
>> AGAIN, THEY'RE DOING HIGHER.
THEY'RE DOING DOUBLE DIGITS, 13, 14, 15 PERCENT AND THE CITY IS ABLE TO MANAGE THAT, REDUCED THAT TO ABOUT 9-8 PERCENT FOR THOSE YEARS.
>> WITHIN EIGHT YEARS, NORTH TEXAS' RATE IS GOING TO DOUBLE.
IT'S GOING TO GO UP BY ABOUT 50 PERCENT IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
A LOT OF THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY THAT.
>> NOT NECESSARILY COST BUT THEIR RATE.
YOU ARE IMPLYING THAT, IT WAS ALL THE COSTS ARE PASSING THROUGH.
I TEND TO DISAGREE WITH THAT BUT THAT'S FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
>> LET'S LOOK AT SCENARIO 2 AND HOW IT COMPARES TO SCENARIO 1. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SCENARIO 2, WE STILL RECOMMEND THAT YOU IMPLEMENT THE FIVE-YEAR RATE PLAN.
WITH THIS ONE THOUGH THERE'S NO DEBT THAT ARE GOING TO BE ISSUED TO FUND YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
WHAT DOES THIS RESULT AND THIS RESULTS IN YOU HAVING TO HAVE HIGHER WATER ADJUSTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE UP AND HAVE THE MONEY ON HAND WHEN YOU NEED IT RATHER THAN ISSUING DEBT AND PAYING PRINCIPAL AND INTERESTS.
LET'S LOOK AT THE RATES FOR THAT.
AGAIN, FOR ALL THE SCENARIOS, THE WASTE WATER RATES ARE REMAINING EXACTLY THE SAME BECAUSE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING ALL FROM THE WATER SIDE, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
IN SCENARIO 2, WE RECOMMEND TAKING YOUR CURRENT MINIMUM CHARGE FOR WATER FROM $40-$46 AND THAT'S GOING TO GO UP TO $70 AND 81 CENTS BY FISCAL YEAR 2027.
YOUR VOLUME RATE FROM $4.35 TO ABOUT $5.
THAT'S GOING TO GO UP TO ABOUT $7.70 BY FISCAL YEAR 2027 AND SIMILAR PERCENTAGE ADJUSTMENTS FOR ALL THE OTHER TIERS AS WELL.
WE STILL RECOMMEND YOU TAKE THE OUTSIDE CITY PREMIUM FROM 0-10 PERCENT AND AGAIN THE WASTEWATER RATES HAVE NOT CHANGED FROM SCENARIO 1.
HOW DOES THIS COMPARE WITH THE BILLS COMPARED TO SCENARIO 1? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? THIS MEANS IF YOU DON'T ISSUE DEBT, YOUR 10,000 GALLON AVERAGE WATER USER IS GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER BILL IN THIS YEAR, ABOUT $3.96.
BUT THIS ACCUMULATES OVER TIME AND BY FISCAL YEAR 2027, YOUR 10,000 GALLON AVERAGE WATER USER IS GOING TO HAVE ABOUT $18.99 HIGHER BILL THAN YOU WOULD WITH SCENARIO 1 WHERE YOU DO ISSUE DEBT.
NOW, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SCENARIO 3.
HOW DOES SCENARIO 3? SCENARIO 3 WILL STILL RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE THE FIVE-YEAR RATE PLAN AND IMPLEMENT OR FIVE YEARS.
THE BIG DIFFERENCE HERE FROM SCENARIO 1, AGAIN, YOUR ORGANIZE THE $12 MILLION TO FUND YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT THE PERCENTAGE INCREASES ARE ONLY GOING TO APPLY TO YOUR VOLUME TIERS NOT THE MINIMUM CHARGE.
HOW DOES THIS AFFECT YOUR RATE PLAN? LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
AS YOU CAN SEE, YOUR MINIMUM CHARGE STATES FROM $40 ALL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PERIOD.
THIS MEANS YOUR VOLUME RATE INCREASES HAVE TO BE HIGHER.
YOUR FIRST TIER IS GOING TO GO FROM $4.35 TO $5 AND BY FISCAL YEAR 2027 IS GOING TO BE $7.59.
SIMILAR PERCENTAGE TO THE ALL THE OTHER TIERS AS WELL.
WASTEWATER HASN'T CHANGED AND WE STILL RECOMMEND IMPLEMENTING AND 10 PERCENT PREMIUM FOR OUTSIDE CITY CUSTOMERS.
HOW DOES THIS AFFECT YOUR BILLS? HERE I ADDED ACTUALLY ANOTHER USER JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE PICTURE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
IF YOU USE UNDER THE AVERAGE OF 10,000 GALLONS WATER BELOW, YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE A LOWER INCREASE, NOT A NEGATIVE INCREASE, A LOWER INCREASE THAN YOU WOULD WITH SCENARIO 1.
WITH THAT 10,000 GALLON WATER USER, YOU'LL SEE ABOUT $2.4 LESS BILL THAN YOU WOULD WITH SCENARIO 1.
BY FISCAL YEAR 2027, THAT'S GOING TO ACCUMULATE TO ABOUT $12 AND 46 LESS THAN YOU WOULD SCENARIO 1.
THAT'S ABOUT, IF YOU'RE USING ABOUT AVERAGE OR BELOW, IF YOU'RE USING A LITTLE BIT ABOVE AVERAGE, LIKE THE 20,000 GALLON USER, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SLIGHTLY HIGHER INCREASES WITH SCENARIO 3 AND SCENARIO 1.
BUT THE BIG HIT, THE BIG PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING HIT THE MOST ARE YOUR VERY HIGH VOLUME USERS.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT 100,000 GALLON WATER USER.
I'M SURE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF VERY HIGH-VOLUME USERS, BUT THERE ARE BIG LOTS IN THE CITY, SO THERE ARE SOME.
FOR THAT 100,000 GALLON WATER USER, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE IF $51.86 HIGHER
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BILL THIS CURRENT YEAR AND BY FISCAL YEAR 2027, THAT DIFFERENCE IS GOING TO BE ABOUT $223.38 MORE.ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE ONLY INCREASING YOUR VOLUME RATE AND NOT INCREASING YOUR BASE RATES, YOU'RE MAKING SURE THAT YOUR REVENUE COMES MORE FROM THE BILLING UNITS, WHICH MEANS DURING WET YEARS, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE AS MUCH REVENUE AS YOU WOULD DURING DRY YEARS.
MORE OF YOUR REVENUE COMES FROM THE VOLUMES COMPARED TO WHEN YOU DO INCREASE THE BASE CHARGE.
THIS IS REVENUE THAT COMES INTO MATTER.
JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU DO THINK ABOUT THESE PLANS.
I'LL PASS IT ON TO DAN JACKSON FOR FINISHING THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS.
>> SURE. JUST IN CLOSING, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS HERE, A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
BUT THE WAY WE WOULD BREAK THIS DOWN IS THAT THE DECISION ON WHAT IS THE BEST RATE STRUCTURE IS REALLY A TWO-TIERED DECISION.
THE FIRST TIER IS DO YOU WANT TO ISSUE DEBT OR DO YOU NOT WANT TO ISSUE DEBT? I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT'S PRETTY UNREALISTIC TO DO $12 MILLION OF INVESTMENT IN YOUR CITY WITHOUT ISSUING SOME FORM OF DEBT.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF YOU ISSUE DEBT, YOU ARE MAKING FUTURE RATE PAYERS PAYING MORE OF THE COST OF ASSETS THAT THEY WILL BE USING.
IF YOU BUY AN ASSET WITH CASH, LET'S SAY YOU PUT IT IN A NEW WATERLINE, PAY FOR IT ALL WITH CASH.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT ANYBODY WHO MOVES INTO THE CITY OF PARKOUR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IT GETS A FREE WATER LINE BECAUSE THEY GET ALL THE BENEFIT OF PAYING THE COST OF IT.
WHEREAS IF YOU ISSUE DEBT FOR THAT, THEN THEIR WATER RATE IS REIMBURSING SOME OF THE DEBT.
QUESTION 1 IS DEBT OR NO DEBT.
IF YOU DO THE DEBT SCENARIO, THEN QUESTION NUMBER 2 IS, WHO SHOULD PAY FOR IT? SHOULD IT BE YOUR HIGH-VOLUME USERS OR SHOULD IT BE EVERYBODY EQUALLY? IF YOU DO THE FIRST SCENARIO, EVERYBODY'S BILL GOES UP BY THE SAME PERCENTAGE AMOUNT.
WHATEVER YOU PAY IN TODAY IS X PERCENT MORE TOMORROW.
IF YOU DO THE THIRD SCENARIO WHERE WE'RE KEEPING THE MINIMUM CHARGE FIXED, THEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE PUSHING MORE OF THE COST ONTO THE HIGHER VOLUME USERS.
WELL, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THAT ALSO ACTS AS AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO CONSERVE WATER TO A GREATER EXTENT.
I GUESS THAT'S REALLY THE BEST WAY TO FRAME IT.
A TWO-TIERED APPROACH AS TO WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST RIGHT DECISION.
ALL OF THESE STRUCTURES WILL GET YOU THE REVENUE YOU NEED TO RUN YOUR SYSTEM.
THEY'LL ALL MEET THE GOALS THAT YOU NEED.
IT'S REALLY NOW A QUESTION OF WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE RATE STRUCTURE? WITH THAT WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> THE QUESTION I JUST HAD WAS THAT OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU RUN THESE SCENARIOS, YOU HAD THE VERY HIGH USAGE RATE FOR THE SCENARIO, ETC.
THEN OF COURSE THERE'S THE USAGE ISSUE UP AND DOWN.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO RUN A MODEL HERE TO GIVE AN AVERAGE.
BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOME SCENARIOS THAT GO INTO BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IN THE THIRD SCENARIO WHERE MY CONCERN IS AS ON THOSE HIGH USERS, THAT'S WHERE ALL THE REVENUE IS COMING FROM.
MY QUESTION IS THAT IF THAT IS NOT BALANCED AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE SHORT
>> YOU PREDICT USAGE AND YOU PREDICT HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SCALE BACK.
WE ECONOMISTS HAVE AN OLD SAYING.
YOU RAISE THE PRICE IS SOMETHING YOU CAN GET LESS OF IT.
THERE ISN'T AN ELASTICITY WHICH MEANS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE LESS WATER IF YOU CHARGE MORE FOR IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART RIGHT HERE, IF YOU USE ABOUT 20,000 GALLONS OR LESS, YOU PAY LESS UNDER SCENARIO 3.
THAT IS ABOUT 75 PERCENT OF YOUR MONTHLY BILLS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE GET A BIT OF A BREAK UNDER SCENARIO 3, BUT A FEW PEOPLE PAY A LOT MORE.
IT'S A GRADUATED INCOME TAX WHERE THE HIGHEST INCOME PEOPLE PAY THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF TAX.
YES, THERE AREN'T THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT USE A LOT OF WATER BUT THEY WILL PAY MORE.
AGAIN, I'VE STUDIED THIS A GOOD BID AND I'VE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CITIES, INCLUDING CALIFORNIA, WHERE IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
THE THING THAT HAPPENS IS THAT JUST WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.
EVERYBODY IS GETTING A BREAK, "FOR 20,000 OR UNDER IT'S NOT EXACTLY RIGHT." BUT LET'S SAY IT FOR THIS SAKE OF ARGUMENT, AND THEN THE HIGHER USAGE PEOPLE, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, YOU'LL DRIVE CONSERVATION.
THEN THEY CONSERVE AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU COME SHORT.
THEN YOU HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL AGAIN AND SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, THE WATER RATE NEEDS TO GO UP. [OVERLAPPING]
UNQUESTIONABLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ELASTICITY FACTOR THAT ASSUMES PEOPLE WILL USE LESS WATER BUT WE CAN'T TELL THE FUTURE WITH PERFECT ACCURACY AND IF PEOPLE CONSERVE MORE THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATE, YES, THEN YOU WILL HAVE A REVENUE SHORTFALL.
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WATER IS A FUNNY BUSINESS.YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING A PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET YOUR RATE PAYERS NOT TO BUY.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN YOU PUT THESE CONSERVATION INCENTIVES IN, OH MY GOD, PEOPLE ACTUALLY CONSERVE.
THEN THEY STOP USING WATER YOU HAVE REVENUE SHORTFALLS. IT'S AN ART.
>> OF COURSE, THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE TO IT ALSO THAT'S EVEN WORSE THAN OUR PARTICULAR CASE BECAUSE THE WAY OUR RATE IS STRUCTURED.
THERE'S A TAKE OR PAY, SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THE AMOUNT ANYWAY.
IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUT ANYWAY AND YOU HAVE THE BUILD CONSUMER, WHICH IS WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.
NOW, YOU'RE IN A FURTHER DEFICIT.
>> GO AHEAD, MR. [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WE HAVE MORE WET YEARS THAN DRY YEARS.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION A COUPLE OF TIMES OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
TWO OF THOSE YEARS CAME DOWN TO THE LAST MONTH OF US BARELY MAKING PROFIT OFF THAT SYSTEM.
THAT WAS PRETTY CLOSE, WE WERE SWEATING OUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS THERE TOWARDS THE END.
>> [OVERLAPPING] AT THIS TIME, MR. SLAUGHTER GO AHEAD [OVERLAPPING] THEN WE'LL COME BACK.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL START WITH THE ONE.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION THAT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT INCURRING DEBT, BUT LOOKING AT YOUR NUMBERS HERE, YOU'RE CALCULATING THIS ON A BOND AT 4%, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS WE'VE HAD, WE'RE ALREADY OVER 4% FOR A BOND AS OF TODAY.
IN DOING SO, IF WE DO THE NO DEBT ROUTE, IF I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVES HERE, A 20,000 GALLON USER HAS AN INCREASE OF $32.99 OVER SCENARIO 1, WHICH IS SCENARIO 1 THAT PROVIDES APPROXIMATELY $12 SO THAT WOULD PUT THEM AT ABOUT $45 ROUGHLY OVER THE COST OF THAT.
DID YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WITH THE CALCULATIONS JUST TAKING ON THAT DEBT, IT WON'T COME OUT OF THE WATER FUND, BUT IT WILL INCREASE THE AMOUNT THAT TAXPAYERS HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT DEBT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT WHETHER THEY PAY THE DEBT PAYMENTS OR WHETHER THEY PAY BASICALLY SELF-FINANCING.
>> UNDER SCENARIOS 1 AND 3, THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS, INCLUDING INTERESTS, ARE ALL FACTORED INTO THE RATE.
THIS IS NOT A TAX-RELATED ISSUE, IT'S A RATE-RELATED ISSUE, SO THE RATES WILL REFUND IT ALL.
WHEREAS UNDER SCENARIO 2, THERE IS NO INTEREST AND SO THAT COST ISN'T THERE, BUT THE CASH FLOW ELEMENT IS THERE BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GENERATE ALL THIS CASH TO ACCUMULATE $12 MILLION TO PAY FOR THESE ASSETS.
>> CALCULATE THAT BASED ON A 4% [OVERLAPPING] RATE FOR THAT WHICH IS NOT.
HOPEFULLY, WE GET THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE TODAY.
>> WE'RE NOT THERE TODAY. NO. BUT ONE THING, BY 2025, 2026, WE'RE HOPING THAT IT GETS BACK THERE.
>> I ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND.
I KNOW YOU RATE US AGAINST ALL THE OTHER CITIES.
YOU SAID OUR AVERAGE IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 15,000 GALLONS.
I'M ASSUMING THOSE CITIES USED 10,000 GALLON.
SO IN THEORY, A PARKER RESIDENT DOES PAY A HIGHER BILL THAN A FRISCO RESIDENTS JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE GROUND TO WATER?
>> WELL. YEAH, BUT SOMEBODY WHO BUYS TWO BIG MACS PAYS MORE THAN SOMEBODY WHO BUYS ONE BIG MAC.
[OVERLAPPING] YOUR PEOPLE USE MORE WATER SO THEIR BILL IS GOING TO BE HIGHER IN THAT SENSE. YES.
>> I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT IT, COMPARING CONTRAST TO SAY THAT WE'RE LOWER, THAT'S ONLY IF WE ACTUALLY HIT THAT MAGICAL 10,000.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT.
MY LAST QUESTION AND THEN I'LL RELINQUISH IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT SCENARIO 3 BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
IT REALLY PUTS THE BURDEN ON HIGH-VOLUME USERS.
COUNCIL MEMBER LEE ALREADY BROUGHT UP THE IDEA THAT THEY MIGHT STEP AWAY FROM THE HIGH-VOLUME USERS EITHER SELL OFF SOME OF THEIR LAND OR GET A WELL TO IRRIGATE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
BUT IN TODAY'S CURRENT SITUATION, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH HIGH-VOLUME USERS UNDER ALMOST 100,000 GALLONS TO OFFSET AND MAKE THAT A REASONABLE SCENARIO?
YOU HAVE MORE HIGH-VOLUME USERS THAN WHAT IS TYPICAL FOR MANY CITIES IN THIS AREA AND SO YEAH.
YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT WE CAN CHANGE WHEN THE DEBT IS ISSUED AND I UNDERSTAND THAT FOR SURE.
HOWEVER, THE SCENARIOS THAT ARE PRESENTED STILL THE REVENUES ARE COVERING THE DEBT WHETHER WE ISSUE IT OR NOT. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YES. IT IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN WHERE ALL THE RATES GO INTO EFFECT AUTOMATICALLY IN OCTOBER OF EACH YEAR.
KEEP IN MIND, THE COUNCIL ALWAYS HAS THE ABILITY TO GO BACK IN AND AMEND THAT RATE PLAN AT ANY TIME THEY WANT.
SO IF YOU SET A FIVE-YEAR RATE PLAN ON COURSE TO ISSUE $12 MILLION IN DEBT AND FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU DON'T ISSUE THE DEBT, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO BACK IN AND CANCEL, CHANGE, OR EDIT THE SCHEDULE RATE ADJUSTMENT.
>> OKAY. WITH RESPECT TO, LET'S USE THE $6 MILLION, THE FIRST MONIES THAT WE NEED,
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IF WE HAVE OR WITH OUR WATER IMPACT FEE, COULD THAT NOT REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF THE DEBT THAT WE ARE NEEDING TO BORROW?>> I THINK WATER IMPACTS IS ONLY ON NEW CUSTOMERS, IT'S BASED ON NEW CUSTOMERS.
YOU CAN'T USE IT ON PRE-EXISTING CUSTOMERS.
SO LET'S USE DUBLIN ROAD, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE IT BACK FEES FOR THAT UNLESS WE WERE OVERSIZED ON THE LINE FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN THERE'S THAT COST DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN 24-36 INCH LINE GOING THROUGH THERE THAT YOU COULD USE THAT IMPACT FEE FOR.
BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, LOT OF OUR STUFF NOW IS GOING TO BE REPAIRS RELATED.
YOU'VE GOT THE POTENTIAL WATER TOWER THAT WE'VE TRIED TO PLAN FOR.
DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL ON THAT AND THEN SOME DIFFERENT WATER LINES UPGRADES JUST IN CASE STUFF BREAKS.
[LAUGHTER] EVERY YEAR WE HAVE SOMETHING MAJOR HAPPEN, RIGHT GARY? [OVERLAPPING]
>>GOOD POINT. SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS A GOOD POINT.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE MONIES THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING TO NEED TO SPEND IN 2025 ARE ON OLD LINES UNTIL WE REALLY COULDN'T APPROPRIATELY USE THE IMPACT FEE, BUT THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE NEEDING IN '29 PERHAPS.
>> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A COMBINATION OF EVERYTHING INVOLVED IN IT.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO USE SOME IMPACT FEES WITH AN ELEVATED STORAGE TOWER AND THEN YOU'D ALSO HAVE SOME GREAT DEBT ISSUANCE WITH THAT.
GARY, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THE IMPACTS ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW? [OVERLAPPING] SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT ON THAT. ACTUALLY, YOU DO HAVE IT RIGHT THERE?
>> NO. [OVERLAPPING] [BACKGROUND]
>> WE GOING TO SO MUCH MORE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.
>> OKAY. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
THE OTHER QUESTION RELATES TO THE AMOUNT THAT YOU USE.
YOU USE 10% AS A SURCHARGE, SO TO SPEAK, FOR THE OUTSIDE CITY.
IS THAT WHAT OTHER CITIES TYPICALLY USE OR IT SEEMS I'VE SEEN SOME NUMBERS THAT ARE BIGGER THAN THAT? [LAUGHTER]
>> YES, IT IS VERY TYPICAL FOR A CITY TO CHARGE A HIGHER RATE FOR OUTSIDE CITY CUSTOMERS AND INSIDE, BECAUSE THE COST OF SERVING OUTSIDE CITY CUSTOMERS IS HIGHER.
I COULD GO INTO A LONG EXPLANATION OF RATE METHODOLOGY, BUT PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.
[LAUGHTER] BOTTOM LINE IS THAT HUNDREDS OF CITIES IN TEXAS DO THIS.
THE AVERAGE IS ACTUALLY CLOSER TO 50% THAN IT IS 10 PERCENT.
WE RECOMMEND 10% BECAUSE A DETAILED COST OF SERVICE ANALYSIS FOR COMPARING INSIDE AND OUTSIDE CITY CUSTOMERS HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED AS PART OF THIS ANALYSIS, SO 10% IS A BARE MINIMUM.
YOU COULD RAISE IT IN FUTURE YEARS AS YOU GO FORWARD, BUT 10% IS CLEARLY A VERY MINIMAL CHARGE.
IF I COULD TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, YOUR OUTSIDE CITY COST IS AT LEAST 30-50% GREATER THAN YOUR INSIDE CITY, SO YOU COULD ASSESS A HIGHER OUTSIDE PREMIUM.
BUT WE THOUGHT 10% WOULD BE GOOD TO EASE THE CUSTOMERS INTO THE HIGHER OUTSIDE CITY RATE.
>> BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE 91 RESIDENTS [OVERLAPPING] PAYING ADDITIONAL COSTS OF HAVING ANOTHER RATE STUDY DONE JUST FOR OUTSIDE SERVICES, AND THEN POTENTIALLY THAT BEING A RATE HEARING DOWN WITH THE PUC [OVERLAPPING] ON TOP OF THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT WAYS ITSELF COST-EFFECTIVE FOR THE CITY AT THIS POINT.
NOW, IF SOMETHING CHANGES DOWN THAT LINE, IF WE GET LIKE 1,000 CONNECTIONS, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT AT THAT POINT, BUT 91, 92 UNDER 100, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT FOR THE CITY TO SPEND THAT TYPE OF FUNDS ON THAT STUDY.
>> WITH THE 10% REQUIRE A RATE STUDY, [OVERLAPPING] THEY GO INTO THE PUC?
>> NO. I THINK THAT'S FAIR WITHIN LINE.
I THINK WE COULD RAISE IT UP PERCENT OR TWO EVERY YEAR FROM THAT POINT ON. YES, MA'AM.
>> OKAY. MR. RAY, DID YOU HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS?
>> NO, NOT RIGHT NOW, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU.
>> THE FORECAST THAT YOU DID THE SIX MILLION IN 2021 AND 2029, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A VERY LARGE NUMBER SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I TRULY UNDERSTAND.
THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS IN 2025, WE HAVE TO SPEND SIX MILLION DOLLARS OR IN 2029 THAT WE WILL SPEND SIX MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL COME UP THOSE TWO YEARS.
THESE ARE JUST HYPOTHETICAL PROJECTS.
>> IT'S PART OF THE CITY'S LONG-TERM PLAN.
[OVERLAPPING] I THINK THE INTENTION IS TO DO IT.
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IT IS NOT A GUARANTEE.LOOK WHAT CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND 2025.
BUT ANY FINANCIAL PLAN HAS TO BE BASED ON A SET OF ASSUMPTIONS AND EXPECTATIONS.
IT IS EXPECTED THAT YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO SPEND THIS LEVEL OF MONEY TO KEEP YOUR SYSTEM OPERATING AT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL.
>> YES. THIS SEEMS SIMPLE, BUT TO ME IT'S CONFUSING.
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 10 YEARS OUT TO BUILD A WATER TOWER OR PUT AN EXTRA LINES OR WHATEVER AND WE PAY FOR IT NOW, AT THE END OF THE 10 YEARS, WHEN THOSE THINGS COME TO PASS AND THE TOWER IS BUILT AND THE LINES ARE PUT IN, WOULD THE RATES GO BACK DOWN?
>> IF YOU ISSUE LONG-TERM DEBT, THEY PROBABLY WOULD NOT BECAUSE YOU'D BE PAYING FOR IT OVER A 20-YEAR PERIOD.
IF YOU WERE TO CASH FUND IT, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY, AND I USE THAT WORD WITH ALL OF IT CAPITALIZE POSSIBILITY, THAT DOWN THE ROAD YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME GREAT RELIEF TO CUSTOMERS BECAUSE THE ASSET WILL BE BUILT.
IT'S LIKE PAYING CASH FOR A HOUSE, YOU DON'T HAVE A MORTGAGE PAYMENT, SO THEORETICALLY, YOU'VE GOT EXTRA MONEY AVAILABLE TO YOU.
BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE WATER SYSTEM IS, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING COMING UP.
I THINK IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO TELL RATE PAYERS, WE'LL LOWER YOUR RATES LATER ON DOWN BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THAT GUARANTEE.
COSTS ARE GOING UP FOR EVERYBODY, BUT CERTAINLY, THERE IS SOME CASH RELIEF THAT COULD BE EXPECTED WAY DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU CASH FUND CERTAIN OF THESE PROJECTS NOW.
>> BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF IT'S A BOND, WE PAY ON THE BOND PLUS WE PAY ANY INFLATIONARY COSTS THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
>> YOU PAY THE BOND COST, YOU PAY THE INTEREST.
>> COST OF WATER AND OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO IT.
THEY'RE NOT REALLY EQUAL IN COMPARISON?
>> YEAH. THE RATE PLAN IS NOT JUST BASED ON THE CAPITAL PLAN AND THE DEBT.
THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT GO IN, THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF FACTORS.
THE TWO PRIMARY ONES ARE YOUR DEBT AND NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, BUT YOU HAVE OTHER COSTS GOING UP TOO.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE SALARIES OVER TIME, YOUR INSURANCE COSTS ARE GOING UP, CHEMICALS COSTS, ALL OF THAT.
IT'S A COMBINATION OF MANY FACTORS; TWO PRIMARY AND OTHER SECONDARY.
>> EXCEPT WE CAN HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER SOME OF THE FACTORS.
OVER THE COST OF WATER, WE REALLY HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTROL.
>> NO, YOU DON'T. NORTH TEXAS DOES A VERY GOOD JOB FOR THE MOST PART OF MANAGING WATER RESOURCES FOR THIS WHOLE AREA, BUT WHEN THEY HAVE TO BUILD A NEW LAKE LIKE THE BOIS D'ARC RESERVOIR AND SPEND A BILLION DOLLARS WITH A B TO BUILD THAT LAKE.
THEY GOT TO RECOVER THE REVENUE, AND SO THEY PASS IT TO YOU AND YOU HAVE TO PASS IT TO YOUR RATE PAYERS.
THAT'S JUST A FACT OF LIFE IN THE WATER INDUSTRY.
>> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND IT RELATES TO THE FUND BALANCE.
I MEAN, WE CHARGE RATES AND WE HAVE FLUCTUATIONS OVER THE YEARS AND NOW WE'VE RETAINED A FUND BALANCE, AND I KNOW PART OF OUR FUND BALANCE IS NECESSARY FOR EMERGENCY NEEDS, ETC, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION OF, WHAT IS OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE IN THE WATER FUND?
>> I'M LOOKING AT LAST YEAR'S AUDIT NUMBERS, SO ITS UNRESTRICTED, IT'S A LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION.
>> THAT WAS AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF '21.
BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE 2022 YEAR.
>> [BACKGROUND] I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT WENT UP, I'M IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THAT DRAFT RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, I KNOW IT DID GO UP, PROBABLY COUPLE MORE ABOUT $1,000.
>> MAYOR PEDOL, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY HAS A POLICY WITH RESPECT TO HOW MUCH RESERVE OR FUND BALANCE
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WE NEED TO RETAIN IN THE CITY PROPRIETARY FUND, WHICH WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL GUIDANCE FOR US.THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE TO THINK ABOUT, BUT AGAIN, I'M MAKING THE REQUESTS THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE GIVEN RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT NUMBER WE COULD POSSIBLY USE OF THAT FUND BALANCE AS AVAILABLE FUNDS, I DON T KNOW, IN CALCULATING THE RATES NEEDED FOR OUR WATER.
>> DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING MR.
>> DO ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS?
>> I THINK SO. MY COMMENTS WILL BE SENDING EXECUTIVE SESSION ON POTENTIAL LITIGATION AND SOME THINGS.
>> AS I UNDERSTOOD TONIGHT, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS COUNCIL NEEDS TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION IN WHICH WE WISH TO GO. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> LIKE SOME DIRECTION OR IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT SCENARIO, I GUESS, YOU GUYS HAVE HAD SOME MONTHS TO LOOK AT IT.
I'VE ONLY HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON IT, SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE ARE COMING UP ON THE DRY SEASON, HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT A WET SEASON.
>>I HAVE A QUESTION. THOUGH TEXAS RAISES THE RIGHTS-BASED ON OCTOBER, WE'RE NOW IN FEBRUARY, ALMOST TO MARCH, DOES THAT MEAN THAT WOMEN THOUGHT THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THEY ARE GOING TO BE BACK DATED?
>> NO. WE'RE GOING FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.
>> WE'VE BEEN EATING THE INCREASED COST.
LUCKILY, IT'S THE WINTERTIME, THERE'S NO HIGH USAGE DURING THIS TIME OF YEAR EXCEPT WHEN PEOPLE'S PIPES BREAK AND USE 300,000 GALLONS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
THOSE ARE FAR AND FEW BETWEEN THEM, BUT WE'RE COMING UP ON THE PARKER WATERING SEASON AS I SHOULD SAY.
GETTING BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT, WE STILL ARE CONVERTING WATER METERS, STUFF LIKE THAT, SO WE DO HAVE THOSE COSTS THAT WE'RE GOING INTO BECAUSE THOSE CENSUS METERS THAT WE HAD PURCHASED.
GARY, YOU HAVE A NICE WORD FOR THE CENSUS METERS THAT WE HAD?
>> WE'VE BEEN SWITCHING OVER TO THIS BADGERS AND THOSE BADGER COSTS HAVE WENT UP.
>> BADGER METERS ARE ALREADY HARD TO GET.
>> YEAH, EVERYTHING'S HARD TO GET RIGHT NOW FOR US.
I THINK THIS LAST ORDER WE SIX MONTHS AGO, BEFORE WE GOT AN ORDERING.
>> DO WE HAVE ALL THE TWO WHICH METERS PUT IN?
>> WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE WAITING ON THOSE TWO.
WE'RE WAITING ON A LOT OF STUFF AND IT'S JUST EVERYTHING IS BACK ORDER.
THE STAINLESS STEEL WE USE, EVERYTHING'S JUST GONE SKY HIGH ON THESE PRODUCTS FOR US AND I DON'T SEE THEM COMING DOWN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET THAT PRICE FOR IT NOW.
>> WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? WHAT TO LOOK AT ANY MORE SCENARIOS, DO YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION? WHAT WOULD YOU ALL LIKE?
>> I WOULD TO SEE MATERIAL WE'RE REFERRING TO AS FAR AS ONE BALANCE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE STAFF TO IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE [INAUDIBLE] ARE NEEDED FOR.
>> YEAH. IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND THEN PROJECTED INTO THE 5-10 YEARS SO THAT WE HAVE AN IDEA.
ALSO, HOW MUCH DO WE NEED? WE HAVE A HEDGE OF PROTECTION, SO TO SPEAK, THAT WE KEEP FOR CATASTROPHIC SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR WATER BILL FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE CITY STILL NEEDS TO OPERATE AND WE STILL NEED TO SUPPLY WATER REGARDLESS EVEN IF THE SKY FALLS SOON.
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SO FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.ALL THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
THEN THE OTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAVE AND PROBABLY OTHER PEOPLE AGREE, WHAT IS THE COST OF US SHORT-TERM FINANCING, SO TO SPEAK? A LARGE CHUNK OF OUR CITY IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE IN 20 YEARS.
I MEAN, NEW PEOPLE TAKE THEIR PLACE, BUT THE PEOPLE [LAUGHTER] RESIDING HERE NOW LIKE MYSELF, I WON'T BE HERE IN 20 YEARS.
SO DO I WANT TO PAY FOR A LONG-TERM PROJECT THAT'S OUT 20 YEARS NOW? WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK SO.
[LAUGHTER] SO LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT OUR RESIDENTS WOULD SEE JUSTIFICATION FOR RAISING RATES AND HOW WE RAISE THE RATES.
I THINK IT'S MOSTLY STAFF THAT WOULD HAVE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
>> JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
>> YEAH. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMAN MEYER WAS SAYING AND WHAT COUNCILMAN LYNCH WAS SAYING, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
THE OTHER THING, I TALKED TO THIS EARLIER BUT MY OVERALL SCENARIO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M MAKING A PROPOSAL ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE THE HIGH WATER USAGE PUNITIVE RATE, AND THE REASON I DON'T IS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT IT PROVIDES A VALUE FOR THE CITY OVER TIME BECAUSE THERE'S MORE RISK IN DOING THAT, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP SHORT.
AGAIN, I'VE SEEN THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND YOU CAN LOOK ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THESE EXACT TYPES OF SCENARIOS HAVE GONE THROUGH.
JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD JUST PUBLICLY LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO TAKE OFF THE TABLE.
>> MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY, I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER REED, I DON'T LIKE HEDGING OUR BETS AGAINST 100,000-GALLON USERS.
I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE A WATER SYSTEM THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY THANKFUL.
DOES SELF-FUND AND THEY MIGHT BE AT THE VERY END, IT SQUEAKS BY ENOUGH TO ADD TO IT.
I AM MORE IN FAVOR OF LOOKING AT BOTH SCENARIO 1 AND 2, HOWEVER, COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER RAISES A VERY VALID POINT IN CASH PAYING A SYSTEM THAT MIGHT NOT BE BENEFICIAL TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
THE ONE QUESTION, AND I'M PRETTY SURE I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT WE RECENTLY DISCUSSED DEBT CAPACITY.
I AM ASSUMING THAT THAT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THIS UNTIL WE'D BE RAISING THE FUNDS TO FUND THAT DEBT AND THE WATER FUND IS TOTALLY SEPARATE THAN GENERAL FUND IMS.
>> CORRECT. BECAUSE THIS ISN'T TAX.
>> BASE [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY THAT ONE SO IT DOESN'T COME UP LATER IF I GET THAT QUESTION.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I AM PROBABLY BETWEEN SCENARIO 1 AND 2 ON THESE, LEANING MORE TOWARDS ONE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DEBT OVER THREE.
>> ANY OTHER INFORMATION YOU MIGHT SUGGEST WE GET?
>> NO. BUT I CONCUR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER.
>> WELL, I HAVE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE THE BASE USERS AND THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH.
SEVERAL OF THEM ARE ON FIXED INCOMES AND THEY'RE SCARED AND I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
HOW WOULD ANYTHING WE DO AFFECT SOMEBODY THAT'S ON A FIXED INCOME, RETIRED, WHATEVER? BECAUSE THAT'S AN ISSUE.
WHAT I'M HEARING YOU ALL SAY IS YOU NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION.
WE'VE GOT A PLACE WHERE WE'RE COMING TOGETHER, BUT WE NEED A BIT MORE INFORMATION, GET THE INFORMATION AND COME BACK, DO ANOTHER WORKSHOP.
>> MADAM MAYOR, IF I CAN JUST ASK, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ORIGINALLY DID THIS TO BE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER '22 [LAUGHTER] AND OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE MARCH OF '23.
SO IN PARKER'S SPIRIT, WE'RE DEFINITELY BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.
BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THE NEXT TIME IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO COME AS AN AGENDA ITEM, SHARING THE INFORMATION WITH OPTIONS OF GOING WITH EITHER PROPOSAL OR EDITING AT THAT POINT.
>> SO SCENARIO 1 OR 2 AT THAT POINT.
>> I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS LIKE MANY OTHER ISSUES THAT WE COULD HASH 85 OTHER SCENARIOS, BUT I THINK THESE ARE PRETTY BASIC AND STREAMLINED SCENARIOS,
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THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR PROVIDING THEM.I THINK IT'S EITHER THE OPTION OF DEBT TO DEBT OR NOT TO DEBT.
[LAUGHTER] I MEAN THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
>> IT'S DEBT OR NOT TO DEBT HOW USERS ARE ASSIGNED BY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON OUR SCENARIOS WHEN THEY'RE BROUGHT BACK IS, AS YOU RECOMMENDED, THE OUTSIDE CITY PREMIUMS, A STEADY INCREASE THAT THE STAFF FEELS LIKE IS COMFORTABLE YEAR OVER YEAR FROM '22, '23, '24, INSTEAD OF STAYING AT A FLAT 10.
>> THAT'S FINE. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I CONCUR WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THERE WAS ANOTHER THING I WAS GOING TO MENTION IS THAT I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE STATIC FOR THAT EXTERNAL USE.
>> WHAT MANY CITIES DO IS RAISE IT FIVE PERCENT A YEAR, 10-15, 20-25, SOMEWHAT ALONG THOSE LINES.
>> WE JUST GOT TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE START TOPPING OUT THERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT A PUC.
>> CASE HEARING BECAUSE THAT DOES.
>> IT GETS REAL COSTLY REAL QUICK.
>> THAT SOUNDS VERY REASONABLE AND I FEEL LIKE WE COULD DEFEND THAT.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> COUNSEL, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.