4. TEMPORARY MORATORIUM EXTENSION: PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING EXTENSION OF THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON THE ACCEPTANCE, REVIEW, AND APPROVALS NECESSARY FOR THE SUBDIVISION, SITE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT, OR CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. 833 EXTENDING THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ENACTED BY ORDINANCE NO.’S 824, 815 & 812 ON THE ACCEPTANCE, REVIEW, AND APPROVALS NECESSARY FOR THE SUBDIVISION, SITE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT, OR CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER.

[4. TEMPORARY MORATORIUM EXTENSION: PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING EXTENSION OF THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON THE ACCEPTANCE, REVIEW, AND APPROVALS NECESSARY FOR THE SUBDIVISION, SITE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT, OR CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. 833 EXTENDING THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ENACTED BY ORDINANCE NO.’S 824, 815 & 812 ON THE ACCEPTANCE, REVIEW, AND APPROVALS NECESSARY FOR THE SUBDIVISION, SITE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT, OR CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER.]

AND I NEED TO ASK MY LEGAL COUNSEL A QUESTION BEFORE I GO TO ITEM ONE.

SHOULD I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN HAVE MR. BIRKHOFF COME, OR SHALL I HAVE MR. BIRKHOFF COME BEFORE THE OPEN? GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT. OK.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE EXTENSION OF THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON THE ACCEPTANCE REVIEW AND APPROVALS NECESSARY FOR THE SUBDIVISION, SITE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND OR CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER.

AND WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW IT IS 7:06.

AND MR. BIRKHOFF, WOULD YOU LEAD US OFF, PLEASE? I'M JOHN BIRKHOFF WITH BIRKHOFF, HENDRICKS AND CARTER OR DALLAS, TEXAS.

AND I GUESS THIS IS OUR THIRD ROUND OF TALKING ABOUT THE MORATORIUM.

YOU KNOW, IN OUR LAST MEETING, THERE WAS IT WAS A PRETTY IMPACTFUL STATEMENT THAT I MADE, IS THAT YOU'RE USING MORE WATER THAN THE DISTRICT CAN SUPPLY YOU.

AND WE LOOKED AT THE SUMMERTIME RECORDS AND LOOKED AT THE PER CAPITA USAGE.

AND BECAUSE WE HAD A VERY HOT, DRY SUMMER, PER CAPITA USES WERE BACK UP, YOU KNOW, COMPARABLE TO WHAT THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS AGO.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD A POINT IN TIME THAT THAT WE SAW LAKE LAVON ALMOST DRY UP AND PEOPLE WERE REALLY CONSERVING AND MANAGING THEIR WATER.

BUT IT WASN'T REALLY HOT, HOT LIKE IT WAS LAST SUMMER.

SO WE EXPERIENCED THAT HOT, HOT SUMMER AND PEOPLE REVERTED BACK TO USING A WHOLE LOT OF WATER TO THE POINT THAT WE EXCEEDED WHAT WE ARE, THE CONTRACT WITH THE DISTRICT.

THEY WERE ABLE TO SUPPLY THE WATER.

WE WE PUMP THAT WATER.

GARY PUMPED EVERYTHING OUT OF THE EAST SIDE THAT HE COULD WITH ALL PUMPS RUNNING.

AND AS I TOLD YOU LAST TIME, THE TCQ REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE A BACKUP PUMP.

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SO GARY USED THE BACKUP THUMP TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ALL THE CITIZENS HAD WATER.

SO HERE WE ARE NOW IN THE FALL AND WINTER AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE GOOD.

WE'RE ABLE TO MEET THE DEMAND BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, USING AS MUCH WATER.

THEY'RE NOT PUTTING IT ON THEIR YARDS AND AND STRESSING THE SYSTEM.

BUT SUMMER WILL BE HERE BEFORE WE KNOW IT.

AND WE NEED TO BE BETTER PREPARED IF WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH NORTH TEXAS AT THAT POINT IN TIME, AS I RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST FEW PRESENTATIONS IN MY LETTER THAT WE GET TOGETHER AND DO SOME BRAINSTORMING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH WITH THE CITIZENS TO BETTER MANAGE THEIR WATER.

IN THIS PARTICULAR LETTER, I'M TALKING WITH GARY MACHADO.

YOU KNOW, A BIG CONCERN OF HIS IS THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT ARE COMING ONLINE.

SINCE WE MET LAST, THERE WAS FOUR ADDITIONAL HOMES, BUT THEY'RE PROJECTING THE NEXT 60, 90 DAYS THAT THERE'LL BE ANOTHER 45 HOMES.

SO WE'LL HAVE 49 ADDITIONAL HOMES COME ONLINE BEFORE SUMMER.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THAT MAX USAGE THAT WE HAD LAST SUMMER, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, ADDS A WHOLE LOT MORE WATER.

AND ABOUT ANOTHER 95,000 GALLONS OF WATER THAT WILL USE AT PEAK PEAK DAYS.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, I HAVE DETERMINED MOST OF THESE HOMES THAT GO IN PRETTY SHORTLY AFTER THEY MOVE IN, THEY START TO DIG A BIG HOLE IN THE BACKYARD AND PUT A SWIMMING POOL IN.

AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THOSE POOLS GO IN AND WHEN THEY START FILLING THEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE 20,000 GALLON POOLS AND THEY ALL WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FILL THEM UP ON, YOU KNOW, JULY 1ST TO FOR THE 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG, BIG STRESS ON OUR SYSTEM.

AND I BRING THIS UP JUST TO TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO, YOU KNOW, START NOW, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH SOME IDEAS HOW WE CAN COMMUNICATE BEST TO OUR CITIZENS FOR THEM TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WATER USAGE, HOW TO BETTER MANAGE THE WATER SO WE DON'T GET IN A SITUATION LIKE LAST SUMMER AND WE TOOK HOURLY READINGS OF THE METERS AND MOVEMENT AND TANKS DETERMINED HOW PEOPLE USED WATER HERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TWO PEAKS.

AND TRADITIONALLY, A CITY HAS ONE PEAK.

WHETHER THAT'S EARLY IN THE MORNING OR LATE IN THE EVENING, YOU HAVE ONE EARLY IN THE MORNING AND ONE AT NIGHT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT HOT AND DRY DURING THE DAY WHEN THE SUN IS OUT, WE TURN OUR WATER ON, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN THAT WATER RESTRICTION TIME IS UP, WHETHER WE NEED THE WATER OR NOT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS TO COMMUNICATE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT YOU START NOW OF HAVING A COMMITTEE OR STAFF WORK ON SOME THINGS THAT THEY CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH TO SAY, CAN WE GO OUT AND EDUCATE OUR CITIZENS ON ON THIS TOPIC? BECAUSE THIS IS BETTER TO MANAGE YOUR WATER NOW THAN TO BE OUT OF WATER COME JULY AND AUGUST? I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BIRKHOFF? I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE WATER MORATORIUM? WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

COME ON UP, MR. [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY MUCH.

I'M LUCY ESTERBROOK, 4407 CHURCH LANE.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

JUST A COUPLE OF DUMB QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO.

I WONDER IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT SURGE PRICING IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO USE AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF WATER IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

CAN WE CHARGE THEM A SUPER A SUPER PRICE FOR THAT? THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, IF SOMEBODY'S GOING TO USE COME ON, THIS IS NOT VERMONT.

IT'S NOT JOLLY OLD IRELAND.

IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GREEN.

IT'S ALMOST A DESERT WHERE WE LIVE.

IT'S A PRAIRIE [INAUDIBLE].

SOMEBODY USES MORE THAN X AMOUNT OF WATER, WHICH MOST OF US ARE, BECAUSE OUR LAWNS LOOK LIKE JOLLY OLD ENGLAND.

UNLESS WE HAVE A WELL, CAN WE CHARGE THEM MORE FOR THAT? AND NUMBER THREE, THOSE POOLS.

CAN WE REQUEST IS THERE A WAY TO MAYBE MORE THAN REQUEST THAT INSTEAD OF USING PARKER WATER, THEY

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TRUCK IT IN TO FILL THOSE POOLS THAT FIRST TIME? AND OF COURSE, THEY'RE GOING TO USE PARKER WATER TO CONTINUE TO FILL THEM AS IT EVAPORATES.

JUST THREE THINGS THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD AND THAT I HAD NO IDEA WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? GOOD.

THEN I WILL CLOSE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS 7:13 P.M..

OKAY, COUNCIL DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 833 EXTENDING THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ENACTED BY ORDINANCE NUMBERS 824, 815 AND 812 ON THE ACCEPTANCE REVIEW AND APPROVALS NECESSARY FOR THE SUBDIVISION, SITE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF PARKER.

MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 833 EXTENDING THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ENACTED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 824, 815 AND 812.

IS THERE A SECOND? MADAM MAYOR, I'LL MOVE TO SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 833, WHICH WOULD EXTEND THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM AS INDICATED BY MR. SLAUGHTER.

ANY DISCUSSION? THEN I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

THANK YOU.

NEXT, WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION AND OR APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER

[5. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2022-722 MAKING THE 3RD COUNCILMEMBER APPOINTMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.]

2022-722, MAKING THE THIRD COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINTMENT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

AS YOU ALL REMEMBER, THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT TAKING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM LUKE'S MANAGEMENT AT THIS TIME TO GIVE HIM A LITTLE BREAK.

SINCE HE IS SO VERY SWAMPED AND WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE ALLOWING THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO DEAL WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN THE MEANTIME, THE WE MADE TWO APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMITTEE, THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM, AND WE DIDN'T MAKE THE THIRD APPOINTMENT BECAUSE THE FEELING WAS WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK MISS ABRAHAM IF SHE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE IN BEING THE THIRD MEMBER OF THAT BECAUSE SHE HAS LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE.

WELL, YEAH, I WOULD.

I HAVE NO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I THINK I'M ALREADY PART OF A DE FACTO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ANYWAY.

WE HAVEN'T MET IN A WHILE, BUT JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT TIMES YOU ALL ARE PLANNING TO MEET, BECAUSE I DO HAVE WORK ENGAGEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN.

SO HEARING THAT, COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OR A NOMINATION FOR THE THIRD MEMBER? MADAM MAYOR, I NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER DIANA ABRAHAM TO SERVE AS THE THIRD MEMBER AND TO SERVE AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY'S COMMITTEE.

OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND.

MADAM MAYOR I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION.

OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DIANA, YOU WANT TO DEFEND YOURSELF? IT'S JUST A SCHEDULING ISSUE THAT I WOULD HAVE THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY QUALM.

AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY TRY TO FIND A REGULAR TIME TO MEET WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BUT FROM TIME TO TIME, THINGS CAN COME UP.

NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

AND YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES IN PUBLIC WORKS.

OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMENTS? OKAY.

THEN I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING DIANA ABRAHAM COUNCIL MEMBER TO THE THIRD POSITION ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

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ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, DIANA.

OH, OKAY. NUMBER SIX, DISCUSSION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ITEMS ON SETTING A FUTURE SPECIAL CALLED

[6. DISCUSSION/CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON SETTING FUTURE SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP MEETINGS]

WORKSHOP MEETINGS.

OKAY, GUYS, THIS IS IT.

WE EITHER HAVE TO FIGURE OUT TIMES AND DATES TO GET THE WORKSHOPS DONE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE TO BE DONE PRETTY QUICKLY OR ELSE I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN DEAL WITH NUMBER SEVEN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.

AND IF Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO MEET IT ON DECEMBER 20TH, THEN YOU BETTER UP SOME DATES WHEN YOU'RE AVAILABLE.

BECAUSE WE HAVE CIP, WE HAVE COMP PLAN, WE HAVE THE FACILITY, AND THAT ONE IS UP AGAINST A DEADLINE.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S BUSY.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT THE THING THAT I'M A LITTLE BIT TICKED OFF ABOUT IS THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I'VE ASKED PEOPLE FOR THEIR DATES.

SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT PROVIDING THOSE DATES.

THAT ISN'T HELPFUL.

I REALLY NEED Y'ALL TO PROVIDE THE DATES WHEN YOU'RE AVAILABLE, SO I'LL SIT HERE AND TAKE THEM.

MR. REED, DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU MIGHT BE AVAILABLE? IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY.

THE WEEK OF THE 12TH, NEXT WEEK I SHOULD BE AVAILABLE.

THE WHOLE WEEK? I'LL BE IN TOWN. I'LL BE IN TOWN ON THE WEEK OF THE 19TH ALSO.

OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS JANUARY IS CONCERNED, PROBABLY THAT FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY 3RD, I'LL BE AVAILABLE ALSO.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DID SEND DATES EARLIER.

YES, I GOT MOST OF THIS.

I GOT IT FROM EVERYONE. DID YOU FINALLY GET THEM? YEAH, I GOT THEM FROM EVERYONE.

I KNOW SCHEDULES HAVE CHANGED SINCE I GOT DATES BASED ON EMAIL, OTHER EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS.

OKAY, WHERE ARE WE THEN? WELL, I DON'T. I DON'T HAVE ANYONE FROM JANUARY.

YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE ALWAYS HERE.

DIANA, DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE? I SUBMITTED. I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT SUBMITTED IT.

I GOT HERS. YES. OKAY.

SO NOW I HAVE ENOUGH THAT WE CAN DO THE THINGS WE HAVE.

I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL.

IF I GET FOUR. YEAH, IF I GET FOUR, THAT FOUR SHOW UP.

THAT WAS MY ONLY FEAR.

YEAH. ALL OF THESE WORKSHOPS REQUIRE SUPER, SUPER, SUPER.

IS THERE A TIMING ADJUSTMENT THAT YOU GUYS CAN MAKE? BECAUSE I CAN. I CAN TRY TO GET HERE AS, AS LONG AS IT'S LIKE CLOSER TOWARDS THE END OF THE WORKDAY.

WE CAN. BUT I HATE TO PUT CITY STAFF ALSO WHERE THEY'RE HAVING TO GO OVER FIVE OR FIVE AND STUFF, BUT IT'S OKAY. LET ME SEE HERE.

CAN WE DO SOME BY ZOOM OR.

NO? WE CAN'T DO THAT.

THAT'S GOTTEN REVOKED AFTER COVID BY THE GOVERNOR.

YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT'S JUST THIS HAS BEEN SUCH A WEIRD YEAR THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THINGS SCHEDULED IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER.

AND NOW WE'RE WE'RE UP AGAINST THE NEW YEAR.

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AND SOME OF THIS STUFF, IF WE REALLY WANT IT ON THE MAY BALLOT, HAS TO BE DONE IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIME, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING A NEW FACILITY.

THAT ONE'S VERY IMPORTANT.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TERMS CHANGING THE TERMS OF OFFICE, THAT ONE HAS TO BE PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO ON IN FEBRUARY FOR A MAY BALLOT.

WORK.

I'M TRYING TO IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'M TRYING TO KEEP THEM AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY. AND AS I TOLD YOU, I'M TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED TO BE OUT OF TOWN ON WORK THAT DAY.

BUT IF THE PLANS DO CHANGE, I WILL BE HERE AT THE MEETING.

OKAY. MY PLAN IS TO BE HERE.

SO YOU WILL BE HERE.

GOOD. THAT'S MY ONLY THING IS JUST TRYING TO GET THAT FOURTH COUNCIL MEMBER.

SOMETIMES I GOT TWO GONE OR HAD, IT WAS LIKE OH, THAT WAS TIGHT.

I GUESS ONE OF THE I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS WHAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ITEM THAT YOU GUYS WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT AT THIS NEXT MEETING? WELL, YEAH, AFTER THE 14TH, BECAUSE WE DO A CIP AND WE'RE DOING BUILDING, ARE WE DOING WHAT? I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO HIGHEST PRIORITIES THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

I AGREE. I WOULD ALSO ADD I GOT A COUPLE OF THEIR DATES AND THAT WAS IT OFF THAT.

SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IN COMMITTEE UPDATES, YOU HAD INDICATED THAT YOU WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD INVITING P&Z BUT IF THEY DON'T SHOW [INAUDIBLE].

COUNCIL WOULD STILL GO FORWARD.

IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH DOING IT THAT WAY SO WE CAN CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD? AND I THINK ALL THOSE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN POSTED WITH WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS AS PART OF THEM AS WELL.

SO THEY CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THE BEGINNING, BUT NOT INTERACTIVE DISCUSSION.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT I SEE WITH THAT.

AT THAT POINT, IT IS IN THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING AS TO THEIR PARTICIPATION.

AT THE VERY FIRST OR SECOND MEETING, WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE INTERACTING WITH US BECAUSE WE BROUGHT THEM IN TO MICHAEL BOOTH, CAME IN AND A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE.

SO AS LONG AS WE CAN BRING THEM IN, I'M GOOD WITH IT.

YEAH, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAN IN MY OPINION.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ACTUAL QUORUM FOR THE P&Z WOULD NOT IMPACT ANYTHING.

AND OBVIOUSLY IF THEY WANT TO BE THERE, THEY CAN INTERACT.

SO WE GET A QUORUM FOR THIS FOR THE SWEARING IN.

YEAH, OKAY.

I'M JUST I'M JUST TRYING.

I'M LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR HERE.

JUST DOUBLE CHECKING . WE'VE GOT LIKE FIVE, FIVE OR SIX THAT WE NEED IS JUST, WE NEED TO DETERMINE WHICH DEADLINES ARE HITTING US THE FIRST WHICH AND I AGREE WITH TERRY THAT I THINK WE GOT TO GO WITH CIP, COMP PLAN, AND FACILITY, BUT OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS OF THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROOM LIKE TO WEIGH IN.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT AHEAD OF THE WORKSHOP THAT WE ALL DO OUR HOMEWORK SO THAT WE ACTUALLY COME IN PREPARED TO PRESENT SOMETHING OR DISCUSS SOMETHING SPECIFIC AND THAT WE'RE NOT BRAINSTORMING DURING THE THE WORKSHOP UNLESS IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

AND THAT WOULD SPEED THINGS UP, PARTICULARLY LIKE ON THE COMP PLAN.

AND I AGREE AND I THINK TYPICALLY MICHAEL'S ALWAYS PROVIDED SOMETHING AS MUCH AS HE CAN IN ADVANCE.

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THE WATER RATE STUDY.

ARE WE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THAT IN ADVANCE.

AND CIP, I ALWAYS WILL.

WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION INFORMATION PRIOR TO AS WELL.

OKAY. IF YOU NEED PEOPLE AT YOUR WORKSHOP OR AT ANY WORKSHOP, FOR EXAMPLE, IF GARY IS NECESSARY OR MR. BIRKHOFF IS NECESSARY [INAUDIBLE] LET US KNOW SO WE CAN CHECK THEIR AVAILABILITY AND SO WE CAN HAVE THEM THERE SO WE DON'T GET TO THE MEETING AND THEN, OH WELL, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE BIRKHOFF IS NOT THERE.

THAT DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS.

YEAH. THE ONLY OTHER DISCUSSION THAT I WOULD HAVE AND I'D BE VERY INTERESTED TO HEAR OTHER PEOPLE'S FEEDBACK ON IT, BUT ON THE FACILITY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE WHERE THERE I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TOUCHED THAT AS A COUNCIL FOR SOME TIME NOW AND I CAN'T IMAGINE US COMING IN AND BEING ALL COHESIVE AND PREPARED FOR THAT.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION INVOLVED IN THAT MEETING.

IT'S GOING TO BE SO MY POINT BEING IS THAT THAT ONE'S NOT GOING TO BE CRISP AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMEBODY SPEARHEADING THAT WHERE IT WINDS UP BEING A REVIEW, IN MY OPINION . JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TRYING TO GET ONE DONE.

TERRY, YOU SAID YOU WERE IN THE [INAUDIBLE] THE 19TH AND 20TH [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, DECEMBER.

JIM, YOU SAID YOU WERE HERE.

WHAT'S EVERYONE'S AVAILABILITY LIKE MID-AFTERNOON ON THE TUESDAY THE 20TH? I'M GOOD. GOOD.

YOU WANT TO DO THE CIP? WOULD YOU BE PREPARED FOR THE CIP? I'LL MAKE IT WORK.

I'M SORRY. NO. JIM, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE CAN.

NO, I'M JUST SAYING.

YOU WERE JUST SAYING WHAT IS MID AFTERNOON? IS THAT LIKE 2:00 OR WHAT 3:00? 3:00. I CAN MAKE THAT WORK.

I'M JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH IDEAS HERE.

AND THEN WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT AFTER WE DO CIP.

WE CAN HAVE THE INITIAL DISCUSSION OF BUILDING WHERE WE WANT TO GO, STUFF LIKE THAT.

WHERE WE LEFT IT WAS PRICE POINTS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU DO HAVE THE PRICE POINT BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO GET THOSE OUT.

YEAH. AND ONCE WE GET THOSE, MAYBE WE CAN.

I THINK I'VE SENT THAT OUT TO EVERYONE.

AND SEE WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

AND WE CAN JUST HAVE LIKE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THAT.

IS THAT WORK FOR YOUR SCHEDULE TREY? YEAH, THAT'S FINE. I KNOW PATTI YOU'RE OUT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL RECORD THE MEETING IN ITSELF SO WE CAN HEAR.

YOU'RE IN ON THE 20TH? [INAUDIBLE] AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION IS JOHN BIRKHOFF.

SO WE MIGHT TALK OFFLINE AND ASK YOU THAT BECAUSE IT PROBABLY WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT WE'LL BE CONCISE.

I JUST DON'T KNOW HIS I DON'T KNOW HIS SCHEDULE.

SO IF YOU CAN FIND THAT OUT FOR US.

DO WE WANT HIM AT THAT MEETING? YEAH. YEAH. SO DOES THAT WORK WITH YOU? I'M NOT TRYING TO INTERRUPT ANYONE'S HOLIDAY TIME.

I'M TRYING NOT MY HARDEST NOT TO.

AND IF WE DON'T CANCEL THE 20TH, WE CAN MAKE THAT KEEP THAT AS A REGULAR MEETING JUST IN CASE SOMEONE'S SCHEDULE DOES GET WONKY.

SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN.

WE CAN STILL HAVE.

WE DON'T NEED THE SUPER QUORUM THEN.

SO THAT'S ALL I WOULD ASK, IS THAT YOU CHANGE THE MEETING TIME TO 3:00.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE HERE.

SO IT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THE DATES? LOOK, ANY TIME IN JANUARY, IF YOU GUYS NEED I MEAN, I'LL TRY TO ACCOMMODATE.

IT'S JUST THAT I'M, I'M OUT OF TOWN BASICALLY AFTER THE 16TH IN DECEMBER.

SO I REQUEST THAT WE WORK MAYBE THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS TO COME UP WITH WHAT DAYS WE WANT WORKSHOPS IN JANUARY AND WE GO AHEAD AND BLAST THOSE OUT SO WE CAN SAVE THOSE DATES.

AND THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL SINCE WE HAVE ALL GIVEN OUR JANUARY AND WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T CHANGE.

CAN WE DO THAT? YES, I THINK I GOT EVERYONE AND WE GOT IT ON RECORDING SO I CAN GO BACK AND LISTEN.

SO IF YOU'LL SEND EVERYBODY OR YOU OR PATTI OR TRISH, SEND US OUTSIDE, THIS IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT FOR DECEMBER.

THIS IS THE DATE TIME.

SAME THING FOR JANUARY.

SO WE CAN HAVE A RECORD AND GET IT ON OUR CALENDARS.

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OKAY? OKAY, THEN WE WILL AT THIS TIME MOVE ON

[7. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON CANCELING THE DECEMBER 20, 2022 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.]

TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON CANCELING THE DECEMBER 20TH, 2022 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT INSTEAD OF CANCELING IT, WE CHANGE THE TIME TO 3:00.

MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE CHANGE THE TIME OF THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FROM DECEMBER 20TH, 2022, TO BEGIN AT 3:00 PM.

IS THERE A SECOND? MADAM MAYOR I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CHANGE THE 20 12-20-2022, THAT'S TOO MUCH, MEETING TO 3 P.M.

FROM 7 P.M..

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. I CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

OKAY. NOW, THIS ONE'S GOING TO BE A REAL TOPIC, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON CANCELING THE JANUARY 3RD,

[8. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON CANCELING THE JANUARY 3, 2023 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.]

2023 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND STAFF WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT IF WE WOULD CANCEL THIS MEETING BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BE HERE ON THE HOLIDAY PUTTING A PACKET TOGETHER.

MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CANCEL THE JANUARY 3RD REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.

Y'ALL ARE TOO EXCITING.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CANCEL THE JANUARY 3RD, 2023 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CANCELING THE JANUARY 3RD, 2023 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

NOW WE HAVE A FEW UPDATES.

[9. UPDATE(S):]

MR. OLSON, I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO TELL US IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE ON 2025, 21 [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH. THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE WATERLINE REPLACEMENTS OUT THERE WITH NORTH TEXAS.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER CONTRACTORS OUT THERE AT THIS POINT WORKING.

SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT THERE.

WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO COMPLETE WITH OUR DESIGN FOR OUR WATERLINE.

AND WE'LL START THE PROJECT HERE FAIRLY SOON.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED THROUGH THE COUNTY, CORRECT, GARY FOR THAT PROJECT.

AND THEN I GUESS THE NEXT ITEM IS MINE TOO.

IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ON 2551.

ANY QUESTIONS ON 2551? OKAY, THEN GO RIGHT AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT. ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT.

AFTER THAT LAST MEETING, WE HAD THE CARS ON HOLD.

I WAS TOLD I NEEDED TO MAKE A DECISION FAIRLY QUICKLY.

SO WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WAS GET ONE BECAUSE WE KNEW WE NEED ONE FOR THE PD.

SO WE ENDED UP GETTING ONE EXPLORER.

IT WAS LIKE THE $38-39,000 ONE.

ASSISTANT CHIEF PRICE HAD WENT AROUND LOOKING AT OTHER DEALERS, TALKING TO OTHER DEALERS, SEE WHAT THEY HAD LOT, WHAT THEY HAD COMING IN.

FUNNY ENOUGH, COUNCILMEMBER SLAUGHTER SENT ME ONE THE DAY WE ORDERED IT.

THAT WAS COMING ON THE LOT.

THAT WAS LIKE THREE GRAND CHEAPER.

AND SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO PLAY IT BY EAR FOR THE REST OF THE VEHICLES AT THIS POINT, SEEING WHAT THE MARKET'S GOING TO DO IN NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING WITH ENTERPRISE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE MARKET AND GO ON FROM THERE.

WHAT I WAS A LITTLE DISTURBED ABOUT WITH ENTERPRISE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY WHEN I WALKED IN AT 2:00, MR. OLSON ADVISED ME WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION NOW, YOU KNOW, OR LOSE THE CARS.

I FELT THAT PUT US IN AN UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE AVAILABLE INFORMATION THAT MR. OLSON WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HAD.

WE HAD SAID, ANYTIME THIS HAPPENS, WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO ALL OF COUNCIL.

WE COULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT VIOLATING QUORUM LAWS.

SO IT WAS A VERY, VERY UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION AND I AM CERTAINLY HOPEFUL, IF NOT DEMANDING, THAT ENTERPRISE NEVER PUT US IN THAT POSITION AGAIN, PERIOD.

AND I'D LIKE TO ADD, IF ENTERPRISE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BRING US CARS OFF A DEALER'S LOT, WE CAN GO FIND THOSE.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO BIG, BIG BENEFIT THAT WE'RE GETTING.

AND THAT WAS THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T THERE'S THE STOCK IS LIMITED ON LOTS AND WHAT THEY'RE COMING OUT WITH.

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SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT LOTS TO REPLACE VEHICLES THAT WE'VE GOT, BUT WE CAN START ORDERING FOR CERTAIN VEHICLES IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING.

BUT AT THIS POINT, WE KNEW THAT VEHICLE, AT LEAST ONE OF THE MOVING THE COMMAND VEHICLE OVER TO PATROL.

WE NEED WE NEEDED THAT COMMAND VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FOR THAT.

SO THAT WAS THE EASY OPTION.

I THINK ONCE WE TALKED AND TALKED WITH A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO I DO KIND OF THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD MOVE TO GO FORWARD SLOWLY.

A LOT OF THE THINGS I'M SEEING OUT IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW IS SHOWING THERE'S A LITTLE SOFTNESS THERE EVEN IN THE AUTOMOTIVE MARKETS RIGHT NOW.

NOW, IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE A WHILE FOR THAT TO FUNNEL THROUGH.

SO I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY A GOOD MOVE TO GO FORWARD.

BUT I THINK WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I THINK IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THAT, IN THAT OVERALL.

WE CANNOT GO FORWARD BASED ON I MEAN, WE'RE LOSING OUR EQUITY IN THE CARS WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE LEASING THEM. SO.

WE'RE LOSING OUR EQUITY WHEN WE'RE LEASING THEM.

ONCE WE TRADE IN OUR CAR THAT WE HAVE AND WE GO WITH ENTERPRISE.

IF WE DO WHAT SAY WE? WE HAVE DONE ONE, WE COULD RECOVER THAT.

WE COULD RECOVER FINANCIALLY FOR THAT.

WE HAVE NO EQUITY IN THE CARS AS WE PROGRESS, WE SELL THE CARS.

AND DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? NO, BECAUSE WE BUILD EQUITY WITHIN THE CARS AS WE MOVE ALONG, WITHIN THE PAYMENT, THE MONTHLY PAYMENTS.

THESE ARE SIMPLE LEASES THAT WE WORKED OUT, NOT STRAIGHTLY.

SO WE OWN THE EQUITY AND WE CAN PAY THEM THE PRICE OF THE CAR, PLUS THE FEE.

THAT WAS PART OF HIS PRESENTATION, IF I UNDERSTOOD.

WE CAN BUY IT OUTRIGHT.

WE'RE BASICALLY FINANCING THEM, NOT REALLY LEASING THEM.

THEY JUST RUN IT ON A LEASE CONTRACT INSTEAD OF A FINANCE CONTRACT, CORRECT? RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT WE WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF SELLING THAT CAR.

WE CAN SELL IT AT ANY POINT WE WANT.

WE CAN. YES.

WE HAVE EQUITY IN THAT CAR.

POINT? I MEAN, IS IT REALLY THE WAY HE PRESENTED IT, IT WAS A BENEFIT TO US.

BUT I'M NOT SEEING THAT BENEFIT MATERIALIZE NOW.

I THINK SINCE THE AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DEFEND HIM AT ONE BIT, I THINK THE MARKET COMPLETELY SHIFTED ON THEM AND THEY WERE CAUGHT FLAT FOOTED. THAT'S MY OPINION ON IT.

WHETHER THAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG.

AND THAT'S THAT HAPPENED DURING THE INITIAL PERIOD THAT WE SIGNED THE CONTRACT WITH THEM AND STARTED GOING FORWARD.

THEN ALLOCATIONS STARTED GETTING PULLED BY THE MANUFACTURERS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE OUTSIDE THEIR REALM.

SO THERE'S BEEN YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN UNCONTROLLABLE FACTORS ON THEIR END, BUT IN MY OPINION, THEY SHOULD HAVE ALSO SEEN THOSE UNCONTROLLABLE FACTORS POSSIBLY COMING UP IN THE FUTURE. AND AND I, I GET THAT PART BUT TRADING IN A CAR EVERY YEAR OR EVERY TWO YEARS IS DIFFERENT THAN HAVING OWNING THAT CAR AND KEEPING IT FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

SO THE BENEFIT THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE, I'M NOT SURE IS GOING TO MATERIALIZE.

BUT IS THAT JUST A TEMPORARY THING AND I THINK I LIKE COUNCILMEMBER REED'S COMMENT OF WE MAYBE JUST NEED TO JUST WAIT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN EVEN THE CITY OF PLANO, YOU KNOW, IS EXPERIENCING AND DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION OF THE VEHICLES RIGHT NOW.

[INAUDIBLE] YEAH.

TOYOTA, TUNDRAS, THEY'RE PULLING WHATEVER THEY CAN OFF LOTS AND JUST DOING WHAT THEY CAN RIGHT NOW.

IT'S JUST A STRANGE TIME.

I REALLY THINK TRYING TO TAKING AN ACTION RIGHT NOW WOULD BE A MISTAKE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO TO WAIT AND SEE HOW THINGS WORK.

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SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE LOCKED INTO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO RENEW OR GET A NEW CAR EVERY YEAR AS AS THEY LAID IT OUT IN THAT CONTRACT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT AT ALL.

THAT IS THAT IS TOTALLY UP TO THE CITY'S POSITION AT THAT TIME.

WHAT THEY DO IS MAKE SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT THE MARKET IS AND WHAT WE CAN GET IN RETURN FOR THAT VEHICLE DURING THAT TIME PERIOD.

SO LIKE, LET'S SAY THEY COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, OUR F150S THIS YEAR IS NOT A GREAT TIME TO DO IT.

THEN WE'LL KEEP THE F150S, ANOTHER YEAR OR ANOTHER TWO YEARS, WHATEVER THEY DEEM IS LIKE THE IDEAL TIME BETWEEN US GETTING EQUITY BACK IN OUR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'D GET BACK IN OUR VEHICLE THAT WE'RE SELLING TO PUT TOWARDS THE PURCHASE PRICE OF A NEW ONE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY TRY TO FIGURE OUT FOR US.

YEAH, THAT WAS PART OF THE SERVICE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE, WAS THAT IF THAT VEHICLE IS DEPRECIATING.

I THINK WHAT THEY SAID, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WAS THAT YOU COULD HAVE A VEHICLE FOR A YEAR AND ESSENTIALLY GET A NEW VEHICLE AND IT WOULDN'T REALLY BE ANY CASH OUT OF POCKET FOR THE CITY. THAT WAS HOW THEY WERE BILLING IT BECAUSE OF THE APPRECIATION OF THE CARS.

HOWEVER, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE ONCE WE GET INTO NEXT, SAY, JUNE-JULY, I MEAN, IT MAY EVEN BE A LITTLE SOONER THAN THAT.

THE CAR PRICES MAY DEPRECIATE A LITTLE BIT.

AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT STORY.

SO BUT THE ONLY THING I THINK WE'VE SEEN AND GARY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN THIS IS F250S, 350S, THOSE ARE WHAT, 8% HIKE OVER YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR.

THAT'S THE CONCERN IS TO COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER'S POINT, THAT'S WHAT I BROUGHT UP WITH THE CONTRACT.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THEY WERE GIVING US THE PROJECTIONS BASED ON THEN WE WERE KIND OF ON THE CUSP OF THE CHIP ISSUE.

SO USED CAR PRICES WERE GOING NUTS AND THEY WERE STILL BANKING THEM ON THE NEW PRICES OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THOSE WERE GOING TO DO.

BUT NOW THOSE HAVE GONE UP.

WHEN THOSE COME DOWN, THE USED CAR PRICES ARE GOING TO COME DOWN.

AND SO I, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO EVALUATE IT AS IT GOES.

I DON'T SEE RIGHT NOW I'M NOT SEEING IT.

BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND WHEN I ASKED IF WE HAVE ANOTHER VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE TO, WE CAN GO OUT AND FIND ONE ON A LOT.

WE'RE NOT LOCKED IN TO HAVE TO BUY FROM ENTERPRISE, SO WE COULD ALWAYS FIND SOMETHING ON OUR OWN AND TAKE IT IN THAT TIME FRAME IF THEY'RE JUST GOING OUT TO A LOT ANYWAY.

CORRECT. TYPICALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE MASTER LIST THAT A VEHICLE IS COMING IN AND GOING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S EASIER TO LOOK UP THAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE THEN WE'RE GOING TO EACH DEALER.

I KNOW ASSISTANT CHIEF PRICE WENT TO SEVERAL DEALERS LOOKING AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, WE THAT WAS THE BEST DEAL WE COULD FIND WAS WHAT ENTERPRISE HAD GIVEN US.

BUT THEN I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WEREN'T NOTIFIED THAT THEY HAD THAT VEHICLE COMING IN.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

ARE THERE ANY VEHICLES THAT YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED BETWEEN NOW AND THEN ? I THINK THERE'S I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE LIST NOW WHAT WE'VE MARKED OFF, WHAT WE HAVE.

AND THERE WAS ONE FOR SURE SHORT TERM AND A SECOND ONE, I THOUGHT.

YEAH, THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE THE FIRE AND THEN MAYBE ANOTHER ONE OVER AT THE PD TO MOVE THAT ADDITIONAL ONE OUT OF PATROL RATED VEHICLE INTO FLEET REGULAR FLEET.

BUT THEN AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PATH FORWARD.

AND AS I SAID, I HAVE A LOT OF INSIGHT IN THIS.

SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD JUST KIND OF HANG LOOSE.

WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED FOR NOW.

AND LET'S LOOK AND SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.

AND TO THE EARLIER COMMENTS THAT WERE SAID, I THINK BY CINDY THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK AT IT.

AND I THINK THAT WE CAN ALWAYS CONTEST WHAT THEY WHAT THEY TELL US.

AND IF THEY SAY, OH, IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO SELL IT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE $5,000 ON IT.

WE MIGHT SAY, WELL, WE MAY NOT JUST WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR US, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CUT IT.

GIVE US THE TIME TO MAKE IT.

AND ALWAYS WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL DEAL THAT WE ALL COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF SITTING DOWN AND LOOKING AT TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE, WHAT WE WERE GOING TO CHOOSE, AND WHETHER IT WAS ONE VEHICLE OR THREE VEHICLES, WHETHER IT WAS FORDS, WHETHER IT WAS.

AGREED, I THINK WE'LL BE IN A BETTER POSITION AS THE MARKET IS A LITTLE MORE BETTER BALANCED THAN THEN IT WON'T BE SUCH A HASTY DECISION, I THINK. SO WHEN DID WE START THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT? I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

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I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY.

[INAUDIBLE] I PUT THE ASTERISK.

HIS COMMENT TO ME, I REMEMBER BECAUSE I ASKED THAT QUESTION AS HE SAID, AT ANY POINT, WE COULD CHOOSE TO NO LONGER MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LEASES AND PURCHASE THEM OUTRIGHT.

WE COULD SELL THEM ALL OFF AND DO WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE.

OR THE THIRD OPTION IS WE KEEP THOSE IN LEASE AND START BUYING ON OUR OWN LIKE WE USED TO.

AND THOSE WERE ALL OPTIONS THAT WE HAD THE ENTIRE TIME.

WE WEREN'T OBLIGATED TO ANYTHING REALLY THE WAY THE PROGRAM WORKS BECAUSE HE SAID OVER AGAIN, OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP YOU HAPPY AND TO KEEP YOU ON BOARD.

THAT WAY WE DON'T FORCE ANYBODY AND AT ANY TIME, IF THERE'S EQUITY IN THE VEHICLE, YOU COULD SELL IT.

WE COULD JUST TAKE THE EQUITY PART WAYS OR WE KEEP PAYING IT, OR WE JUST PAY IT OFF AND WE KEEP THE VEHICLE AND WE GO OUR SEPARATE WAYS.

BUT COUNCIL MEMBER TO YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION.

THERE'S NOT LIKE AN ANNUAL A SPECIFIC ANNUAL REVIEW IN THE CONTRACTS.

AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE FIRST YEAR WE WERE SCHEDULED, ACCORDING TO HIS PRESENTATION, WE WE'RE SCHEDULED TO REPLACE MOST OF THE VEHICLES.

SO THAT OBVIOUSLY ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

NO, BECAUSE OF THE ALLOCATION NUMBERS AND THEN THE PRICING THEMSELVES WAS JUST ASTRONOMICAL.

IN MY WELL.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE MY CONCERN WOULD BE IF WE WOUND UP DOING THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S AND THEN WE CHOSE TO GET OUT OF THE THE LEASE.

IT WOULD IT WOULD BE A HARDSHIP ON OUR BUDGET, LET'S JUST PUT IT THAT WAY.

A LITTLE BIT BUT I REMEMBER ASKING THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION WHEN HE WAS HERE AND HE WAS HE WAS PRETTY ADAMANT IN SAYING THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THE VEHICLE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS IN A LEASE, AS YOU GAIN THE EQUITY IN THAT VEHICLE, THEN WHEN YOU SELL IT BACK, YOU GET THE ENTIRE MONEY BACK, CORRECT? YEAH. FOR THAT VEHICLE.

SO SO IT WAS WELL, OF COURSE IT WAS DEPENDING ON THE MARKET, OF COURSE.

BUT THE POINT BEING, THOUGH, IS THAT IT WOULD BE THE SAME.

I MEAN, WHETHER WHETHER THE CAR IS THREE YEARS OLD OR WHETHER IT'S ONE YEAR OLD, WHATEVER DEPRECIATION THERE'S GOING TO BE, THERE'S GOING TO BE.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT IN BOTH CASES, WHETHER YOU OWN THE CAR OR YOU RELEASING IT.

AND THAT WAS THE QUESTION I THINK WE ASKED.

AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO PUSH BACK ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IS THE CASE, THAT HE THE ASTERISKED AS MAYOR PRO TEM SLAUGHTER WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WAS HE REALLY TELLING US THE TRUTH OR NOT? BUT I AGREE.

I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T WE NORMALLY DON'T TRADE IN OUR CARS EVERY YEAR.

WE WE KEEP OUR CARS UNTIL THEY NEED TO BE TRADED IN.

AND I THOUGHT WE HAD THIS DOOMSDAY SCENARIO PITCH TO HIM WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND IT WAS ALL LIKE, OH, IT'S GOING TO BE THE MONKEY SUNNY DAY.

YEAH, THE MONKEY WRENCH IS, IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED WAS PROBABLY A BLESSING, IS THAT WE DID NOT GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS WHERE WE ALREADY WOULD HAVE REPLACED 5 OR 6 CARS.

SO THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE ALLOCATION SITUATION.

AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH THIS NEXT 6 TO 8 MONTH TIME FRAME, WE'RE GOING TO REALLY GET A GOOD FEEL ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN A MORE NORMAL AUTOMOBILE MARKET. AND NOW THEN WE'LL SEE IF IT REALLY MAKES SENSE, BECAUSE THE PITCH AT THE TIME WAS THAT THEY'RE GOING UP SO RADICALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MAKING MONEY EVERY TIME YOU TURN IT IN, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE HAD IT 2 OR 3 YEARS.

AND WE KNEW THAT ONE GO FOREVER.

SO WE'LL WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. TREY, I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO DO A BRIEF UPDATE ON TCQ.

YES, MA'AM. WELL, WHAT WE CAN SHARE ABOUT THE CURRENT MUD PROCEEDING AND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT PROCEEDING IS THAT THOSE THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE MATTERS. THERE IS ONE FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN OUR ETJ AND ONE FOR THE MUD THAT WOULD BE IN OUR ETJ.

THE CITY HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE AN AFFECTED PARTY IN BOTH CASES, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN IS A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE OTHER CASE AND ITS PROCEDURE.

SO THAT IS CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE DISCOVERY PROCESS AND LOOKING AHEAD TO A FINAL HEARING ON THAT PROBABLY IN FEBRUARY IF THE SCHEDULE HOLDS. MEANWHILE, THE MUD PROCEEDING JUST HAD ITS FIRST PRELIMINARY HEARING WHERE THE PARTIES WERE ESTABLISHED.

THE CITY, AGAIN WAS WAS FOUND TO BE AN EFFECTIVE PARTY WITHOUT OBJECTION.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A SCHEDULE FOR THAT.

THAT HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE AN AGREEMENT AS TO THE SCHEDULE.

SO THEN IT WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE TO TO SET THAT AND THEN IT WOULD GO THROUGH DISCOVERY UP TO FINAL HEARING AND THAT WOULD BE MID, MID TO THIRD QUARTER NEXT YEAR. WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET.

SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE UPDATE WE CAN SHARE ON THOSE CASES.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LANSFORD? OKAY.

THEN I'LL MOVE ALONG TO ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS FOR POLICE, FIRE AND CITY STAFF.

[10. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $500) Page 3 of 3 Walmart Neighborhood Grocery, Roxanne Bogdan, Jill Lambouses, and Taven Culverhouse donated gift baskets to Council and Staff estimated value $400 Anonymous donation of $80 cash for Parkerfest. Lisa Birdsong Real Estate Group donated a Pecan Pie estimated value is $15.00 to the Parker Police Department. The Presbyterian Church (formerly known as Corinth Presbyterian Church) donated cookies and a gift basket estimated value is $25 to the Parker Police Department. Chigani Family donated a turkey estimated value is $40.00 to the Parker Police Department.]

FOR THE RECORD, THESE ARE DONATIONS THAT ARE LESS THAN $500.

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FIRST, WE HAVE THE WAL-MART NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY FROM ROXANNE BOGDAN, JILL LAMBOUSES AND TAVEN CULVERHOUSE DONATED GIFT BASKETS TO COUNCIL AND STAFF ESTIMATED VALUE OF $400.

THEN WE HAVE ANONYMOUS DONATIONS OF $80 FOR PARKER FEST.

THAT'S FROM PEOPLE WHO STUFFED MONEY INTO DONATION JARS.

WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO PUT MONEY IN IT AND IT WAS A TOTAL OF $80.

LISA BIRDSONG, REAL ESTATE GROUP, DONATED A PECAN PIE ESTIMATED AT $15 TO THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE CORINTH PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, DONATED COOKIES AND A GIFT BASKET ESTIMATED VALUE OF $25 TO THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CHIGANI FAMILY DONATED A TURKEY ESTIMATED AT $40 TO THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE FOLKS FOR THEIR GRACIOUS DONATIONS AND THINKING OF US.

WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S AWESOME.

WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE.