Nov 15, 2022 City Council

HERE WE GO. I HEREBY CONVENE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF PARKER, TEXAS, ON NOVEMBER 15, 2022

[CALL TO ORDER]

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MR. OLSON, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YES, MADAM MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL RECESS TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0711.

CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY CONCERNING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION.

GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0712 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER.

OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

AT THIS TIME WE ARE IN RECESS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IT IS 6:01 P.M.

AT THIS TIME, I'M RECONVENING THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF THE CITY OF PARKER ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022.

IT IS 8:11 P.M.

AND, COUNCIL, WAS THERE ANY ACTION FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO [INAUDIBLE]? THEN AT THIS TIME WE WILL DO THE PLEDGES.

PRESTON, WOULD YOU DO THE AMERICAN PLEDGE AND, ED, WOULD YOU DO THE TEXAS PLEDGE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU ALL. AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE EXCITED ABOUT.

MY NAME IS STANDRIDGE.

I LIVE AT 3607 HOME DRIVE PARKER, TEXAS 75002-6733.

LAST TUESDAY I ATTENDED THE ISLAND CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THOUGHT WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY OUR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL WERE MISSING.

I THINK BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH LEADERS AND NEIGHBORING TOWNS IS IMPORTANT.

THE ISLAND CITY COUNCIL STARTED THE MEETING BY HONORING ALL VETERANS.

THEY HAD A COLOR GUARD IN ATTENDANCE AND I WAS INVITED AND HONORED TO COME FORWARD AS A VETERAN.

THE NEXT DAY I ATTENDED A VETERAN'S DAY CELEBRATION IN WYLIE.

THE MAYOR, A FEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND A LOT OF VETERANS WERE PRESENT.

A FEW YEARS AGO, PARKER WAS MADE PARKER MADE A SPECIAL TIME TO HONOR OUR VETERANS.

HOW MANY VETERANS DO WE HAVE IN HERE TONIGHT? I KNOW THERE'S SOME ON LINE BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE LISTENING, AND I WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE.

AS A FOLLOW UP TO MY COMMENTS, LAST COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING A GROWING COMMUNITIES IN THE DFW AREA, WE ARE A GROWING COMMUNITY THAT IN THE PAST WAS THE NUMBER ONE IN DFW AS DESIGNATED BY THE D MAGAZINE IN CURRENT WEEKS.

THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS PRESENTED STATISTICS ABOUT MANY LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND HIGH POINTS ABOUT EACH COMMUNITY.

WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT PARKER? HAVE YOU ALL READ THE PAPER? THERE WAS ONE ARTICLE ABOUT PARKER THE SALE OF SOUTHFORK RANCH, BUT NOTHING ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S TIME OUR ELECTED PARKER LEADERSHIP TO BECOME MORE INVOLVED IN RECREATING PARKER AS THE NUMBER ONE COMMUNITY IN

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LET'S LET OTHER COMMUNITIES KNOW WHO PARKER IS.

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? I GUESS THE ANSWER IS WHAT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL DEEMS IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY AND OUR FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. STANDRIDGE. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? THE FEW ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

HOLIDAYS. THE HOLIDAY TREE LIGHTING WILL BE ON SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH, FROM 4 TO 6 P.M.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THERE ARE FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA COUNCIL.

ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE PULLED OFF FOR DISCUSSION? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

ANY DISCUSSION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTES.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU AGREE.

ANYBODY AGAINST MOTION PASSES? THREE ZERO.

I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT DIANNA ABRAHAM AND JIM REED ARE NOT JOINING US TONIGHT.

OKAY. NEXT IS INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE DISCUSSION AND OR APPROVAL OF FUNDING FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, HOLIDAY LIGHTS EVENT

[5. DISCUSSION AND/OR APPROVAL OF FUNDS FOR P&R HOLIDAZE LIGHTS.]

PARKS AND RECREATION IS VERY CONCERNED THAT DUE TO THE SHORTNESS OF TIME BETWEEN PARK FEST AND HOLIDAYS, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY STAND IN TERMS OF FUNDING.

THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO COME AND PUT THE LIGHTS UP.

THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY TO DO VARIOUS THINGS AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S WE'RE A CITY COMMISSION AND YET WE'RE HAVING TO RAISE OUR OWN MONEY FOR EVERYTHING.

WE JUST HAD PARKER FEST.

WE JUST HIT UP ALL OF OUR DONORS.

WE CAN'T GO BACK TO THEM RIGHT NOW.

AND SO THEY ASKED IF THE CITY WOULD BE WILLING TO INVEST SOME SOME MONEY IN THIS EVENT SINCE IT IS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

SO I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION.

SO, MADAM MAYOR, I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSING THIS.

I WOULD USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE PARKS AND REC TO PLAN ON THE CALENDAR YEAR.

SO WHEN WE GO INTO BUDGETS, THEY CAN BRING THIS TO US FOR WHAT THEY DECIDE AND IT DOESN'T BECOME LAST MINUTE ITEMS. I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO.

AND PARKS PARKER FEST WAS A WAS AN EXCELLENT EVENT.

I'M SURE HOLIDAYS WILL BE AS WELL, BUT I THINK THEY NEED TO PULL THAT TOGETHER FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE OF THE ONLY COMMISSIONS THAT TRULY EXPENDS MONEY IN THIS RESPECT.

AT THE SAME SAME TIME, IT WAS MENTIONED TO THEM THAT PERHAPS HAVING TWO EVENTS ALMOST BACK TO BACK WHEN THERE'S A WHOLE YEAR WAS JUST NOT THE BEST PLANNING IN THE WORLD.

SO I'M SORRY THAT NOBODY'S HERE FROM PARKS AND REC TO REALLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WHEN THEY PLAN THEIR EVENTS, SURELY THEY BUDGET FOR EACH EVENT? I WOULD HOPE SO.

AND SINCE THE CALENDAR YEAR, WE'RE NOT FAR DOWN THE ROAD IN THE CALENDAR YEAR.

FOR THEM, $7,500 I BELIEVE WAS THE BOTTOM LINE FOR THE FOR PARKS AND RECS FOR THE YEAR.

I LOOKED ON ON THE BUDGET GRANT IS THAT THE RIGHT AMOUNT SO THAT THE GOT 21500 TO 14000 THAT IS FROM THE PARK.

IT'S CALLED DONATION FOR PARK BENCHES AND WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND FOR THAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE 7500 AFTER THAT.

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SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE RECEIVED 2000 IN DONATIONS FROM PARKER FEST.

THEY GENERATE ANOTHER $350 FROM VENDOR REGISTRATION FEES.

SO IN TOTAL, THAT'S 2,350.

THEY SPENT $1,815.

THERE'S BEEN EXPENSES HAVE BEEN TURNED IN TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THEM.

SO THEY'VE NETTED ABOUT $535 AFTER PARKER FEST.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY GENERATED.

SO THEY GENERATED A POSITIVE STILL $7,500 FOR EVENTS, 70 $500.

SO. THAT'S 2500.

5000 IS BUDGETED FOR FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, THOUSANDS FOR BOY SCOUT PROJECTS AND MISCELLANEOUS OTHER EXPENSES, AND TAKES UP 6000 CITY TRANSFERS, 2500 TO THE PARKS FUND.

SO THAT LEAVES THEM ABOUT 20 $500 TO RAISE FOR REVENUE SLATED FOR 5000 TO 35000 SPECIAL EVENTS.

SO IF YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE 2,500 THE CITY IS GOING TO PUT IN AND THE 2350, THEY'RE ALMOST AT THAT 5000 MARK FOR REVENUE AND THEY STILL.

SO BOTTOM LINE, THEY STILL HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THE BUDGET FOR THE HOLIDAYS EVENTS, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO SPEND IT ON.

YES. SO I GUESS I'M CONFUSED WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR WHEN THEY TALKED TO ME, THEY WERE SAYING THAT DUE TO THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS FOR AN ELECTRICIAN TO PUT UP THE LIGHTS, THAT THE JUST LIGHTING THE BUILDING ALONE WOULD BE $2700.

AND I QUESTIONED THAT.

AND SO I TALKED TO LUKE ABOUT IT, AND I THINK LUKE TALKED TO GARY ABOUT IT AND FOUND OUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF AN ELECTRICIAN IS GOING TO PUT UP HOLIDAY LIGHTS.

I MEAN, USUALLY THE FIREFIGHTER GOES AROUND AND DOES THAT OFF DUTY.

THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF IS IT WAS EITHER LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE THEY HAD AN ELECTRICAL OUTLET INSTALLED AND THAT REQUIRED AN ELECTRICIAN.

BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE AN ELECTRICIAN TO DO HANG CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.

SO THEY TOLD ME THEY HAD BEEN TOLD BY THE CITY THAT THEY COULDN'T USE FIREFIGHTERS.

THEY HAD THIS WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST, AND I DIDN'T KNOW.

SO I CAME BACK TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS TRUE AND WHAT WAS NOT.

AND THERE'S A BIT OF MISINFORMATION GOING AROUND BECAUSE APPARENTLY FIREFIGHTERS CAN HANG CHRISTMAS LIGHTS. THEY JUST CAN'T BE ON DUTY WHEN THEY DO IT.

AND I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD CHARGE $2700.

SO I MY POSITION ON THIS IS I WOULD SAY THAT I CAN'T I MEAN, THEY'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR FUNDING, BUT DIDN'T INCLUDE US.

WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVING, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, WHAT THE OVERAGES ARE.

I MEAN, I'M KIND OF AT A SHOT IN THE DARK, SO I WOULD BE INCLINED TO PROPOSE WE TABLE THIS UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO SPEND.

AND I KNOW THAT'S TOUGH BECAUSE THE EVENTS BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, I THINK.

BUT I CAN'T APPROVE WHAT? I DON'T KNOW. YEAH.

AND YEAH, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER.

HOWEVER, POSSIBLY ANOTHER OPTION TO HELP THEM OUT WOULD BE FOR THEM TO TO GET IN TOUCH WITH WITH MR. SAVAGE AND SEE HOW MUCH MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO, YOU KNOW, TO WORK ON THEIR BUDGET FOR FOR THE EVENT.

BECAUSE I'D HATE TO NOT SEE THE EVENT.

I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN PLANNING IT AND WOULD YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT FOR YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMUNITY WHEN WHEN THEY TALKED TO ME, THEY WERE VERY UPSET. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CANCELING THE EVENT BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT AND THEY DID NOT KNOW I WAS GOING TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.

I WANTED EVERYBODY TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY.

THEY WERE UPSET BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THE $2700 FOR SOMEBODY, AN ELECTRICIAN.

THEY HAVE THEY SAID, WE'LL HAVE TO CANCEL THE REINDEER.

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE HOT CHOCOLATE.

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THEY DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT THAT THEY HAVE TO RAISE THEIR OWN MONEY FOR EVERYTHING.

AND I QUESTIONED THAT BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT THEY WERE BUDGETED AND THEY COULDN'T ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

THEY THINK SOME OF THEIR MONEY DISAPPEARED AND WE DID NOT.

IT GETS VERY, VERY COMPLICATED.

AND I JUST SAID, I'M GOING TO YOU KNOW, I JUST TOLD MYSELF, I'M GOING TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.

SO COUNCIL WILL HEAR THE ENTIRE STORY AND CAN DECIDE WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO RATHER THAN MY JUST MAKING AN ARBITRARY DECISION.

AND THEY ARE MEETING TOMORROW AND THEY'LL, I GUESS, MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER TO GO FORWARD OR NOT.

I DON'T HAVE A CLUE PERSONALLY WHAT GETTING THE REINDEER GETTING HOT CHOCOLATE WOULD COST.

IT IS. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER MEYER.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TO KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA, BECAUSE I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO GO ON FOR THIS.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS IN ANY WAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION TO KNOW IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR $50 OR ARE THEY ASKING FOR 5000 BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER LYNCH.

I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE FOR THEM TO GET WITH MR. SAVAGE AND YOURSELF TO BE MORE PRESENT DURING OUR BUDGETING PROCESSES AS WE GO AND TO PLAN OUT THEIR YEAR'S EVENTS EARLIER IN THE YEAR SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE DATES AND TIMES.

AH, YES.

I MENTIONED TO THEM THAT THEY HAD BEEN INVITED TO THE BUDGET HEARINGS AND TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION AND NO ONE SHOWED UP.

SO THEIR, THEIR WILL WERE.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE I MEAN I THINK THEY SHOULD BE AT THE BUDGET HEARINGS AT LEAST TO MAKE THEIR CASE AND WHAT THEY PLAN.

BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE VERY HELPFUL IF THEY WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND GIVE US A RECAP AND SHOW US THE BUDGET AND WHAT THEY PLAN ON SPENDING, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT THEY HAVE OTHER PROJECTS PLANNED FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, BUT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE AND HOW MUCH THEY WILL COST.

SO AND THEY SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD HANDLE ON ON THEIR FINANCES, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

SO COULD WE DO THAT GET GET SOME A REPRESENTATIVE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.

WE'LL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO SEE THAT HAPPENS.

I HAVE INVITED THEM TO COME TO ALL MEETINGS AND I WOULD PUT THEM ON AN AGENDA IF THEY WANTED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ABOUT LIKE WE USED TO GET A QUARTERLY FROM THE PARKS AND REC.

WELL, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE MORE OF A REQUEST THAT THEY COME AND PRESENT IT RATHER THAN DO YOU WANT TO COME? AND YOU KNOW, BUT AND I AGREE WITH COUNCIL AND SLAUGHTER ON THIS WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION.

IT'S REALLY HARD TO TO GO MOVE FORWARD ON ON DISCUSSION AND FUNDING.

WE HAVE NOTHING TO BASE IT ON.

OKAY. THEN I TAKE IT AT THIS TIME THERE IS NO GOING FORWARD. THERE'S JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022, DASH

[6. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2022-719 MAKING APPOINTMENTS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING (P&Z) COMMISSION.]

IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU SHOULD HAVE.

THE INFORMATION ON PLANNING AND ZONING.

THAT IS. IS IT TRUE THAT THE ONLY OUTSIDE APPLICATION WE HAD FOR ANY BORDER COMMISSION IS FROM LUCY? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

WE DO HAVE ONE APPLICATION FROM LUCY ESTABROOK WHO IS ASKING FOR APPOINTMENT TO ANY OF THE THREE BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS.

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I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE JOE LOZANO AND DAVE LEAMY TO BE RETURNING MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AS I'VE INDICATED, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN IT.

THEY'VE BEEN RELATIVELY CONSISTENT IN THEIR ACTIONS ON THE COMMITTEE.

I HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT WAS THE REASON THAT MR. LAMY, IF WE KNOW, WAS ABSENT, WAS UP BECAUSE OF HIS HEALTH.

YES, HE HAD SERVED.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH'S NOMINATIONS WITH THE ASTERISK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM TO START ATTENDING, ESPECIALLY THE SPECIAL MEETINGS THAT HAVE COME UP. I AGREE.

AND I WOULD NOTE ALSO FOR THE CITY SECRETARY, I NOTICED THAT TECHNICALLY, I GUESS THOSE WOULD BE SPECIAL MEETINGS FOR THEM, AND THEY'RE NOT LISTED ON THIS DOCUMENT FOR THEIR ATTENDANCE. SO IF WE WANT TO KEEP THAT RECORD, WE MIGHT WANT TO UPDATE THAT SINCE EVERYBODY JUST ABOUT WAS ABSENT.

CAN WE DO THAT, PATTI? YES. WAIT. I WAS GOING TO ADD THEM, BUT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS, A LOT OF TIMES THEIR ATTENDANCE IS NOT REQUIRED.

BUT I WAS KIND OF BACK AND FORTH.

I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT I CAN ADD THEM.

SO TECHNICALLY, WE'RE NOT DOING SUBCOMMITTEE FOR MY UNDERSTANDING.

IT'S A SPECIAL MEETING OF COUNCIL AND P AND Z, SO IT'S JUST TWO SEPARATE BODIES.

SO I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD JUST FOR RECORD KEEPING PURPOSES.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPOINT JOE LEZAMA AND DAVE LEAMY TO RETURN TO THEIR POSITIONS ON PLANNING AND ZONING.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS? NOT I DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.

HOWEVER, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS BECAUSE IN THE PACKET THERE WERE COPIES OF THE OUTSIDE OF AN ENVELOPE THAT WERE ADDRESSED TO VARIOUS BOARD MEMBERS, BOTH ON P&Z AND ZBA, AND I WASN'T SURE WHAT THOSE ENVELOPES REPRESENTED.

I GUESS I BELIEVE THOSE ARE.

OR DID YOU SEND OUT LETTERS TO THE ZBA OR PERSONS TO ASK IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN? I THINK WHAT THAT WAS IS WHEN I ATTACHED BECAUSE I WAS WORKING REMOTELY.

CATCH THE RESOLUTION FROM LAST YEAR.

AND WHEN I DO THAT AS DOCUMENTATION, I HAVE WHEN I SEND OUT THE LETTERS FROM LAST YEAR, THAT'S WHAT'S ATTACHED.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELETED.

IT'S BEHIND THE RESOLUTION.

WHEN THEY GOT APPOINTMENT APPOINTED LAST YEAR, I SENT OUT LETTERS TO THEM AND THE ENVELOPES.

I JUST ATTACH COPIES SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF OR I CAN LOOK BACK AND KNOW THAT IT'S TAKEN CARE OF AND IT JUST WASN'T DELETED.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ALTERNATES ALSO OR ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE MEMBERS? FIRST, LET'S JUST GET THE COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY. THEN AT THIS TIME, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE TO MAYOR, JUST REAL QUICK.

I'LL ANSWER THAT REAL QUICKLY.

FIRST, SPECIFICALLY FOR P AND Z, THERE'S NOT AN ALTERNATE THAT'S UP THIS ROUND.

THEIR TERMS DON'T EXPIRE UNTIL NEXT YEAR ON.

THEIR TWO YEAR TERMS? THAT'S HOW THEY WERE APPOINTED LAST YEAR.

YES, MA'AM. WHICH WAS SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED IN OUR CODE.

THAT COUNCIL COULD APPOINT THEM FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.

AND LAST YEAR YOU ALL APPOINTED ALL THE ALTERNATES FOR ALL OF THE POSITIONS FOR TWO YEARS.

SO THEY'RE TECHNICALLY NOT UP AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO HAVE A QUESTION THEN.

IS THERE A REQUIREMENT OF HOW MANY ABSENCES OR ATTENDING MEETINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO ATTEND VERSUS BEING ABSENT? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE OF THE COUNCIL HAS NEVER PASSED A ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION SAYING IF YOU MISS THREE IN A ROW WITHOUT

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WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT.

THAT I KNOW OF.

NOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT CONSIDERED? IF SO, WE'LL PUT IT DOWN AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WANTS TO BE ON IT BUT THEY NEVER SHOW UP, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

WELL, I BELIEVE ON ALL OF THEM, THEY CAN BE REMOVED BY COUNCIL AT ANY TIME.

SO. BUT PATTI, WOULD YOU PUT THAT DOWN ON A FUTURE AGENDA SO WE CAN CONSIDER IT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME? ATTENDANCE POLICY KIND OF REVIEW AN ATTENDANCE POLICY FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

OTHERWISE, TREY WILL GET MAD.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, THEN I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE ON RETURNING MR. LOZANO TO PLACE TWO AND MR. LEAMY TO PLACE FOUR ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 3-0.

NEXT WILL BE CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-720.

[7. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2022-720 MAKING APPOINTMENTS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT (ZBA).]

IN YOUR PACKET, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE INFORMATION.

AND I BELIEVE IT IS.

RANDY KERCHOW PLACE TO DON DIXON FOR PLACE FOUR.

AND THEN WE HAVE TWO VACANT ALTERNATE POSITIONS AND LET'S DEAL WITH THE COMMISSION VOTING MEMBER FIRST.

IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE NOMINATE RANDY KERCHOW FOR PLACE TWO AND DON DIXON FOR PLACE FOUR IN THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

OKAY.

I'LL SECOND, THAT, MADAM MAYOR.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, NOMINATIONS, DISCUSSION? OKAY, THEN AT THIS TIME I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RETURNING RANDY KERCHOW TO PLACE TWO AND DON DIXON TO PLACE FOUR ZBA.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY AGAINST? NOT HEARING ANY.

MOTION PASSES 3-0.

AT THIS TIME WE HAVE TWO VACANT POSITIONS ON IN THE ALTERNATIVE ALTERNATES AS AN ALTERNATE.

WE DO HAVE ONE OUTSIDE APPLICATION, BUT WE HAVE TWO OPENINGS.

MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE PUT LUCY ESTABROOK ON AS ALTERNATE NUMBER ONE FOR THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS TO REPLACE JASON SHEPPARD, WHO HAS RESIGNED.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PUT LUCY ESTABROOK ON AS ALTERNATE ONE ON ZBA.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS ON THAT? THEN I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLACING LUCY ESTABROOK INTO ALTERNATE ONE POSITION ON ZBA.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY AGAINST? PASSES 3-0.

PATTI, WOULD YOU, WELL, I KNOW YOU WILL.

PLEASE LET LUCY KNOW THAT SHE HAS BEEN APPOINTED.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW OR HEARD OR IS ANYBODY CONTACTED YOU ABOUT JOINING THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT SINCE WE DO HAVE ONE MORE APPOINTMENT? PATTI, WOULD YOU SEND OUT ANOTHER EMAIL BLAST OR PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE THAT WE STILL HAVE AN OPENING ON ZBA? IT'S BEEN ON THE WEBSITE AND I THINK YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THE LAST NEWSLETTER.

OH, OKAY, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT AND I THINK WE SENT OUT A BILL LAST A

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DID WE? IF WE CAN DO THAT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I THINK.

I THINK IT WENT OFF AT THE DEADLINE DATE.

I'M SORRY. I THINK IT ROLLED OFF ON THE DEADLINE DAY.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK IN THERE AND REPOST IT, IF YOU WOULD.

YES, MA'AM. I'VE BEEN HAVING APPLICATIONS OVER TOO.

TRYING TO MAYBE TALK TO PEOPLE THAT WHEN THEY SHOW UP TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO FILL THEM OUT.

I THINK THAT'S HOW WE GOT MS. LUCY. NO.

WELL, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAD TOLD ME THEY WERE GOING TO FILE FOR THINGS, BUT I DON'T YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY APPLICATIONS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

YOU LET ME KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

IF I, CAN GET EMAIL ADDRESSES, I'LL SEND THEM AN APPLICATION AND WE'LL SEE IF WE GET IT THAT WAY.

OKAY. NEXT, WE HAVE CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-721.

[8. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2022-721 MAKING APPOINTMENTS TO THE TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.]

MADAM MAYOR, I ASSUMED IT WAS A TYPO BASED ON EVERYTHING INCLUDED THAT SHOWED THE TERM EXPIRATIONS FOR KIM HINSHAW, LEEANNE TURRENTINE AND SHERRY WARE.

EXPIRED NOVEMBER 30TH OF 2021 BECAUSE IT SAID THEIR TERMS WEREN'T UP ON THE COVER SHEET, I'M ASSUMING.

THE ONLY TWO VOTING MEMBERS THAT ARE UP ARE FRANK DE COSTA AND PIERRE BURGESS.

THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE SHOWED.

BUT I NOTICE THAT THE COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM PAGE ACTUALLY SAID THAT ALL OF THEM WERE UP NOVEMBER 30TH.

THAT'S CORRECT. I GUESS WE MISSED THAT ONE.

I THINK WHAT IT IS.

THEN, MADAM MAYOR, I'M ASSUMING YOU WANT TO TAKE THE VOTING MEMBERS FIRST.

I DO. AND THERE'S ONE COMPLICATION, IF YOU WILL, SHERRY, WHERE IS THE VOTING MEMBER? SHE IS NOT UP, BUT SHE WANTS TO STEP DOWN FROM A VOTING MEMBER TO BECOME AN ALTERNATE MEMBER.

SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.

OKAY, THEN, MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE NOMINATE PIERRE BURGESS FOR PLACE TO FRANK DE COSTA FOR PLACE FOUR. AND THEN DO WE WANT TO HANDLE SHERRY'S AS A SEPARATE MOTION? YEAH, I THINK WE WOULD.

OKAY, THEN I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR THE TIME BEING.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPOINT PIERRE BURGESS TO PLACE TWO AND FRANK DE COSTA TO PLACE FOUR.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? NOT HEARING ANY.

I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, MOTION PASSES 3-0 FOR THE ALTERNATE.

NOW THESE.

LET ME BE SURE COUNCIL.

THERE WERE THESE ONE YEAR OR TWO YEAR BECAUSE YOU'VE TOTALLY CONFUSED ME ON P AND RAND OR I THOUGHT THEY WERE ONE YEAR APPOINTMENT BUT.

YES, RIGHT. THOSE ARE ONE YEAR.

AND I BELIEVE.

THERE IS AN ATTENDANCE SHEET.

I BELIEVE IN YOUR PACKET [INAUDIBLE]. MADAM MAYOR, FOR A SAKE OF MAKING IT EASY, BEFORE WE GET TO THE ALTERNATE, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT SHERRY WARE'S RESIGNATION FROM A VOTING POSITION FOR THE PARKS AND RECS COMMISSION AND APPOINT ALTERNATE NUMBER ONE TO TAKE HER PLACE AS A VOTING MEMBER, WHICH WOULD BE DONE DONNA DA COSTA.

OKAY. I TALKED TO DONNA DE COSTA ABOUT BECOMING A VOTING MEMBER AND SHE HAD A QUESTION FOR TREY. THE QUESTION IS, IS IT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR HER TO SERVE AS A VOTING MEMBER WHEN HER HUSBAND IS ALSO A

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SO. OKAY.

I'LL SECOND THAT NOMINATION.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPOINT DONNA DE COSTA TO THE VOTING MEMBER, TO A VOTING COMMISSIONER TO FULFILL THE REST OF MS. WARE'S TERM, INCLUDING THE ACCEPTANCE.

AND THIS IS WHERE THE RESIGNATION AS A VOTING MEMBER.

YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE TO ACCEPT MISS WARE'S RESIGNATION FROM A VOTING MEMBER TO AN ALTERNATE.

WELL, WE WOULD KNOW IN THAT IN THAT SITUATION, YEAH, WE WOULD NOT DO THAT AS PART OF THAT.

IT WOULD JUST SHE WOULD JUST BE THEN PART OF THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE ALTERNATES AT THAT TIME, TO HER RESIGNATION FROM A VOTING MEMBER AND TO APPOINT DONNA DE COSTA AS A VOTING MEMBER.

RIGHT. OKAY.

THEN DURING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 3-0.

OKAY. NOW WE'LL GO TO THE ALTERNATES.

MADAM MAYOR, I NOW MOVE THAT WE.

WELL, DO WE NEED TO PUT SHERRY IN THE BOTTOM PLACE, OR DOES IT MATTER? IT DOESN'T MATTER ON THIS RESOLUTION FOR IT.

SO, MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE NOMINATE SHERRY WARE TO TAKE THE PLACE OF ALTERNATE ONE FOR THE PARKS AND RECS COMMISSION.

DON'T NEED TO DO THAT SEPARATE FROM ALL THE OTHER ALTERNATES, RIGHT? NO. AT THIS POINT YOU COULD APPOINT THEM ALL.

AND I NOMINATE MELANIE HARRIS FOR ALTERNATE TO PUMMEL PAULA JOHNSTON FOR ALTERNATE THREE AND CINDY LANE FOR ALTERNATE FOUR.

OKAY. I HAVE ONE COMMENT ON THAT, WHICH IS OTHER THAN THE VERY FIRST MEETING, MS. JOHNSTON HAS NOT BEEN TO ANY MEETINGS.

DO YOU WISH TO KNOWING THAT? DO YOU WISH TO REAPPOINT HER? I WOULD BE FINE AMENDING THE MOTION TO LEAVE THAT AS A VACANT POSITION.

BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, THERE'S AT LEAST A BODY ASSIGNED TO IT.

BUT THEN WE MIGHT NOT GET ANOTHER APPLICATION, SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE THAT A VACANT POSITION.

OKAY. UP TO YOU. I JUST, LIKE, SAID I WOULD.

YEAH. AND MS. HARRIS HAS NOT BEEN TO A LOT OF MEETINGS, BUT SHE EXPLAINED AT THE TIME SHE WAS APPOINTED THAT SHE WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE FROM SEPTEMBER BASICALLY TO DECEMBER, BUT SHE WOULD BE AVAILABLE FROM DECEMBER TO SEPTEMBER, I THINK AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALTERNATES, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEIR ATTENDANCE IS NECESSARILY ALWAYS MANDATORY.

I WOULD LEAVE MY ORIGINAL MOTION INTACT AND WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT IF WE NEED ANOTHER POSITION.

SO I THINK I WOULD LEAVE.

SHERRY WARE IN PLACE ONE MELANIE HARRIS IS ALTERNATE TO.

HAS PAULA JOHNSTON-HUDKE ACTUALLY, WAS SHE CONTACTED TO SEE IF SHE STILL WANTS TO REMAIN? YES. AND SHE SAID YES.

YES. THEN I WOULD REMAIN HER AN ALTERNATE THREE.

AND CINDY LANE IS ALTERNATE FOUR.

OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

OKAY. THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOU BOTH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLACING SHERRY WARE AS ALTERNATE ONE.

MELANIE HARRIS IS ALTERNATE TO PAULA JOHNSTON-HUDKE IS ALTERNATE THREE.

CINDY LANE IS ALTERNATE FOUR.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 3-0.

SO ON THAT ONE, WE'LL HAVE TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO MATCH WHAT YOU ALL DID.

BUT WE CAN DO THAT.

OKAY. NOW WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER NINE CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTIONS ON ARGUMENT

[9. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. 831 APPOINTING A DEPUTY CITY SECRETARY WITH THE POWERS AND DUTIES TO ASSIST WITH SAID OFFICE AND TO SERVE IN THE ABSENCE OF THE CITY SECRETARY.]

OKAY. WHAT WE'VE WHEN PATTI WAS OUT, WE NEEDED SOMEONE TO ATTEST TO SIGNATURES WHEN THAT THE MAYOR HAD

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FORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT PERSON WHEN PATTI WAS OUT.

SO WHAT WITH THE LADIES IN THE OFFICE WE'VE GOT TOGETHER WITH THEM, THEY THEY ALL EXPRESSED INTEREST IN IT.

AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS JUST ROTATE THIS EVERY YEAR.

LAURA'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST ONE UP JUST BECAUSE SHE HAD SENIORITY, AND THAT WAS WHAT EVERYONE AGREED TO.

IT'S BASICALLY WHEN PATTI'S NOT HERE.

IF WE NEED SOMEONE TO ATTEST TO ANY SIGNATURE AT THE MAYOR MAY HAVE OR TREY MIGHT NEED, WE CAN COVER THAT AT THAT POINT.

THAT'S BASICALLY THE ONLY REASON FOR THIS.

OKAY. FIRST, FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT KNOW, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TEST AND NOTARY PUBLIC? BECAUSE WHAT COULD HAVE A NOTARY IS A DIFFERENT ATTESTATION, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

BUT A NOTARY IS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE.

ATTESTATION IS SOMEBODY THAT HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY TO ATTEST TO THE SIGNATURE OF THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE SIGNING IT.

SO CITY ORDINANCES, CITY CONTRACTS, STUFF LIKE THAT ARE ALWAYS ATTESTED TO BY SOMEBODY WHO IS EMPOWERED BY THE CITY SECRETARY'S POSITION TO ATTEST TO THAT SIGNATURE. AND IN THIS SITUATION, WE HAD PATTI AS OUR CITY SECRETARY, BUT IT WOULD BE ADVISABLE TO HAVE A BACKUP SO THAT IN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE PATTI IS UNAVAILABLE, WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN STILL DO THE JOB THAT IS SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY TO DO THAT JOB.

WOULD THE DUTIES ALSO BE IF PATTI WAS OUT AND WE NEEDED SOMEBODY TO DO OUR COUNCIL MEETING OR PUT THE PACKETS TOGETHER WITH THIS PERSON? THEY CAN ALSO HELP OUT WITH THAT.

AND THE LADIES, THE FRONT OFFICE STAFF IS ALSO WILLING TO HELP OUT WITH THAT AT ANY TIME.

SO THERE WAS NO ISSUES WITH THAT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 831, APPOINTING A DEPUTY CITY SECRETARY WITH THE POWERS AND DUTIES TO ASSIST WITH SET OFFICE AND TO SERVE IN THE ABSENCE OF THE CITY SECRETARY.

OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 831.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES 3-0.

OKAY. ITEM NUMBER TEN.

[10. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON APPOINTING A WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE.]

OKAY, MR. MAYOR.

COUNCIL. THE REASON WE PUT THIS ON THERE FOR A SUBCOMMITTEE IS WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH TIME TRYING TO GET EVERYONE'S SCHEDULES.

AND IF THE WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE WOULD ACTUALLY BE A SUPER QUORUM, IF WE HAD ALL OF COUNCIL ON IT, IT OUTSIDE OF OUR NORMAL MEETINGS.

SO WE WERE ASKING THAT THIS GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WOULD WORK TOGETHER WITH CITY STAFF.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GO THROUGH THE THREE OPTIONS THAT CIVIC PLUS SENT US, DO DEMOS, GO DOWN THOSE THOSE DIFFERENT AVENUES WITH THAT, AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT GROUP WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS THE BEST OPTIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

BUT ALL COUNCIL CAN ATTEND.

YES, WE WILL POST IT.

IT WILL BE POSTED SO ALL COUNCIL CAN ATTEND.

SO IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THE WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE? I WOULD LIKE TO SERVE.

OKAY. I WILL NOMINATE COUNCILMEMBER MEYER.

I HAVE HALF A MIND TO NOMINATE THE TWO THAT AREN'T HERE JUST TO TEACH HIM ABOUT NOT SHOWING UP TO COUNCIL MEETING.

I WILL HONESTLY SAY I WOULD RATHER NOT JUST BECAUSE I'M FOCUSED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND INVESTMENT AND WEDNESDAY MEETING.

SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER TIME AT THIS POINT.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SERVE.

I'D LIKE TO DO THAT AND I WOULD, BUT I DON'T COUNT.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION IN IN THE KIND OF THE THE MANDATE, SO TO SPEAK.

IT INDICATES THAT IT'S STRICTLY LOOKING AT CIVIC PLUS OPTIONS.

IS THIS WHAT WE WANT? YEAH. SHOULD WE NOT BE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS OTHER THAN CIVIC PLUS ON THE WEBSITE WE'VE WE CAN DO THAT THAT THAT IS AN OPTION WE CAN GO THROUGH AND HAVE CIVIC PLUSES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

I THINK ONCE WE START GOING THROUGH IT.

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WE'VE GOT A YEAR ON IT.

I THINK IT STARTED OCTOBER ONE.

IT'S JUST A ROLLING CONTRACT AND IMAGINE IDENTIFYING OUR NEEDS FIRST WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO TO FIRST TAKE A LOOK AT.

AND THAT MIGHT ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT THIS IS THE BEST OPTION TO NOT LOOK AT ANYTHING FURTHER.

I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE WE HAD THERE WAS NO NO WAY FORWARD OTHER THAN THIS.

IF NO LOOKED AT. NO, NOT WHAT OUR NEEDS.

THAT'S ON ME. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

IT'S JUST I KNOW WE'VE USED CIVIC PLUS IN THE PAST.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO GET WITH THEM AND GET THEIR INFORMATION SO WE CAN GO DOWN THAT DIFFERENT AVENUE.

MADAM, DID I HEAR YOU SAY YOU ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BE A MEMBER? THEN I WOULD PROPOSE WE NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER, MAYOR LEE PETTLE AND COUNCIL MEMBER TERRY LYNCH TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

MAY THE ODDS BE FOREVER IN YOUR FAVOR.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES 3-0.

I WOULD AGAIN LIKE TO ITERATE THAT EVERYBODY IS INVITED.

AND IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, MR. OLSON, LORI NEWTON WILL BE THE CITY STAFF FOR LORI AND POSSIBLY ROBIN.

YES. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THREE OF YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO WORK ON THAT PROJECT, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE YOUR OWN SEPARATE STUFF.

YOU DO, TOO. AND SOME OF US KNOW NOTHING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.

OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 11, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION EXCEPTING THE FAJITA WAGON DONATION TO

[11. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ACCEPTING THE FAJITA WAGON DONATION TO PROVIDE LUNCH TO CITY STAFF FROM JOHN AND DEBBIE CHISOLM IN THE AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY $1,500.]

I NEED A MOTION TO EXIST.

MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE DONATION OF THE FAJITA WAGON LUNCHEON IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF 1500 DOLLARS FROM MR. AND MRS. CHISHOLM. MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THAT AND WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD OUR SINCERE THANKS TO THEM FOR PROVIDING THAT FOR OUR STAFF.

YES, IT WAS DELICIOUS.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THE DONATION FROM JOHN AND DEBBIE CHISHOLM IN THE AMOUNT OF 1500 DOLLARS.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 3-0.

AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO THANK THE CHISHOLMS. THAT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.

THAT THEY WOULD BRING THIS BIG BARBECUE WAGON OUT AND FEED US ALL.

THAT WAS VERY WONDERFUL AGAIN.

OKAY. ARE YOU READY? ITEM NUMBER 12.

[12. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING VEHICLE ORDERS UNDER THE ENTERPRISE CONTRACT.]

BASICALLY WITH THE PD VEHICLE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS REPLACING A TAHOE WITH A WITH A FORD EXPLORER AND THEN MOVING CONCURRENTLY, MOVING OVER EITHER THE COMMAND OR CID VEHICLE, THE COMMAND VEHICLE AT THAT TIME, AND THEN GETTING THAT ONE OUTFITTED WITH STRIPES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE IN A NORMAL PATROL VEHICLE.

THE FORD EXPLORER WOULD NOT BE A PURSUIT RATED FORD EXPLORER.

IT WOULD JUST BE A STANDARD XLT.

THOSE COSTS ARE 39,000.

HOLD ON. LET ME PULL IT ALL UP.

I THINK IT WAS 39,000 AND SOME CHANGE JUST FOR THE EXPLORER.

THEN OUTFITTING IT WAS GOING TO COST.

SO SORRY.

16,000, SOME CHANGE AND HALF THAT'S DUE UPFRONT.

SO THE $8,338.78 WOULD BE PAID UP FRONT.

THE OTHER HALF, THE OTHER 8000 WOULD BE FINANCED THROUGH THE THE MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS FOR THE TOTAL COST OF $47,793.77 PAID OUT OVER 60 MONTHS IN THIS VEHICLE WILL BE UNDERNEATH THE MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THE CITY.

IT WILL COST $1,500 TO DECOMMISSION THE OLDER TAHOE AND THEN $7,345

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ANY QUESTIONS ON THE POLICE? LET'S GO. THAT ONE FIRST.

SO MANY QUESTIONS, I'M SURE.

FIRST OF ALL, ON THE COMMAND VEHICLE, I LOVE THE IDEA OF RECYCLING IT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ON THE RECYCLE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BRING THEM BACK TO US IN THE NEXT YEAR AND GO, WELL, NOW IT'S TIME TO STRIP THAT ONE, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD IT FOR A YEAR AFTER WE PAID A RE OUTFIT, THIS VEHICLE THAT WE STILL GOT LOW MILEAGE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT. 18 TO 18 TO OH ONE IS THE ONE WHERE I THINK IT'S CURRENTLY PARKED NOW, ISN'T IT? IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S STILL OF THIS 100,000 MILES AT THE MOMENT.

AND THEN THE COMMAND VEHICLE HAS 4000 MILES.

THEY'RE ROLLING IN THE SMART AND YOU KNOW HOW MANY MILES ARE ON THE CITY VEHICLE CURVE.

SO WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO TAKE THE 18 UNIT AND PUT THAT AT THE END OF THE ROAD OFTEN AND HAVE BOTH OF THOSE PATROL VEHICLES THAT ARE USED MORE FREQUENTLY? IT WOULD BE MORE COST IMPERATIVE TO RE OUTFIT THE INSIDE OF THAT CAR BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SITTING DOWN WITH A POLICE CAR THE LAST TWO FRONT SEATS AND THAT'S IT WOULD ACTUALLY COST WAY MORE MONEY.

SO SO THIS PROGRAM WAS PRESENTED A WHILE BACK.

I KNOW YOU'RE KIND OF STILL GETTING UP TO SPEED.

IS THIS PROGRAM STILL IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE AS AS DO YOU STILL SEE THIS AS BEING A WORTHWHILE PROGRAM GOING THROUGH ENTERPRISE TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS? BECAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO US AND YOU WEREN'T PART OF THAT PRESENTATION.

BUT I'M CURIOUS FROM A STANDPOINT AND NOW YOU BEING THE ASSISTANT CHIEF THERE, HAVE BEEN WITH ANY THING THAT YOU DIDN'T DO, IT HAS ITS UPS AND DOWNS. ENTERPRISE CERTAINLY HAS ITS ISSUES THAT I HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.

BUT THE ROTATING THE CARS THROUGH AND NOT HAVING THAT FIT TO THE CITY ALL AT ONCE SEEMED TO BE A FEASIBLE THING TO DO WHERE YOU CAN SPREAD IT OUT OVER TIME RATHER THAN IN THE PAST WHERE WE HAD TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE, RIGHT UP FRONT.

AND THEN SOMETIMES THOSE INVESTMENTS, AS YOU KNOW, CAN COME OUT TO BE LESS THAN DESIRABLE.

AND WE END UP WITH A CAR THAT IS FAIRLY VIEWED AS A PIECE OF JUNK.

AND IN THIS ENTERPRISE SYSTEM, WE CAN ROTATE THAT OUT AND GET A DIFFERENT CAR.

IF THAT WERE THE CASE THAT WE NEEDED TO DO THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

THE NON PURSUIT RATE, WE'VE ACTUALLY SAVE US MONEY AS FAR AS VEHICLE MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THAT CAR WOULD NOW FALL INTO THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WHERE IT PAYS FOR WHERE THOSE TWO TOGGLES THAT WE HAVE SET UP NOW FOR COMMAND INSIDE ARE GRADED SO THEY DON'T COVER OR FALL IN THE MAINTENANCE PLAN.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THE THE UNIT THAT WE WOULD BE RETIRING 18 AND IS STILL DRIVABLE, THAT ONE WOULD BE SOLD UNDER THE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM.

YEAH, WE WOULD DECOMMISSION IT AND SELL IT.

SELL IT OUT. THEY GIVE US A I DIDN'T SEE AN ESTIMATE OF OUR RECOUP ON THAT VEHICLE.

NO, THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US A RECOUP COST ON THAT.

AND I THINK THAT ONCE THAT SELLS AT AUCTION, WHENEVER IT SELLS ON THEIR LOT, WE GET THAT MONEY BACK.

YEAH. I JUST THOUGHT THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD GIVE US AN ESTIMATE AS TIMES WERE COMING UP SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS LIKE, OH, HERE'S WHAT IT'S WORTH, SO YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. MAYBE I WASN'T.

I'LL JUST DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

I DIDN'T SEE IT IN ANY OF THE INFORMATION WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH MY NOTES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY CAN ONLY SPECULATE THAT.

AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE WAY OFF.

AND SO IT'S QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD GIVE YOU A DEFINITIVE ANSWER EVEN IN A CLOSE RANGE.

IT'S JUST IT'S CLEARLY OBVIOUS THAT A LOT OF THEIR NUMBERS WERE SPECULATIVE.

VERY MUCH SO, WHERE THEY MADE A LOT OF A LOT OF PROMISES THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE KINKS AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THEY CAN'T THEY COULDN'T HAVE FORESEEN THE ISSUE WITH VEHICLES THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING.

BUT MY MY QUESTION BECOMES, IS THERE A BETTER USE FOR UNIT 18 201 THAN TO SELL IT FOR BOTTOM DOLLAR? THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS MY CONCERN.

IT'S GIVING UP AN ASSET IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET MUCH FOR IT.

PREFERABLY, I DON'T LIKE GROWING THE FLEET IF WE DON'T HAVE TO, AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER USE.

AND I WASN'T INTENDING TO GROW OR SWITCH, YOU KNOW, LIKE I HAD PROPOSED EARLIER.

SWITCHING AROUND, BUT I UNDERSTAND CFD MIGHT NOT BE AN OPTION.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S.

I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE IS RUNNING FAIRLY FINE, IS IT NOT, KENNY?

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18, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, NEEDS TO RETIRE AND GO AWAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE GOOD FOR MUCH AFTER AND THROUGH THE CAR FENDERS THAT WE HAD WITH THE 16 MODEL.

THAT CAR GOT DROVE REALLY HARD A LOT BY EVERY OFFICER HERE.

SO IT'S BEEN BEATEN UP MORE THAN ALL OF THEM.

AND YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO, A PATROL CAR GOES FROM A TOTAL STANDSTILL TO 100 MILES AN HOUR AND THEN BACK TO STANDSTILL OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

IT'S IS NOT GOOD FOR.

RIGHT. OKAY. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHEN THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE REPLACEMENT OF VEHICLES THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE THE FIRST YEAR.

SO WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? WELL, WITH THE WAY THE MARKET IS TURNED ON VEHICLES, SINCE THAT TIME WE HAD ENTERED THE CONTRACT, PRICING IS WAY UP.

LIKE I JUST GOT PRICING TODAY.

ORIGINALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT $39,726 FOR CHEVY 2500.

PRICING TODAY FOR AN EXCEL F 250 WAS 50,000.

AND THAT'S PRETTY THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH IN THAT SAME LINE OF PRICING.

IS IT THE SAME? IT'S NOT THE SAME MODEL, THOUGH.

IT'S STILL THREE QUARTERS TIME.

OKAY. AND THEY'RE ALL KIND OF COMING OUT WITH THAT SAME PRICING ACROSS THE BOARD BETWEEN DODGE CHEVY AND BUT OUR RESALE ON OUR TRADE IN OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT SHOULD MAKE UP A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THAT DIFFERENCE, SHOULD IT NOT? JUST DEPENDS ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET'S DOING.

LET ME PULL UP THAT EMAIL SORRY, PIECE OF INFORMATION.

FINDING VEHICLES THAT ARE BASICALLY FOR PUBLIC USE WHERE THEY TAKE AWAY THE AMENITIES OUT OF THEM.

THE MANUFACTURERS ARE NOT MANUFACTURING AS MANY OF THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MAKING AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY ARE HIRING CARS.

SO THEY SLOWED DOWN THE PRODUCTION OF TAHOE'S EXPLORER, ANYTHING RELATED TO PUBLIC SERVICE.

SO FOR ENTERPRISE OR ANYBODY ELSE TO FIND ONE, IT'S A LUCKY DRAW.

AND MOST DEALERSHIPS WON'T ORDER THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT HIGHER PAYING CUSTOMERS, SO THEY GET A BETTER PROFIT MARGIN.

I JUST TALKED TO A BUDDY OF MINE WHO WORKS FOR A POOR DEALERSHIP IN SHERMAN, AND THEY SIMPLY DID AWAY WITH FLEET VEHICLES BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THEM.

YEAH. WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE TAHOE'S? I THINK WHEN WE WERE LOOKING JUST FOR NON PURSUIT RATED, IT WAS EITHER HIGH COUNTRY OR THE TOP OF THE LINE LIKE DENALI.

AND SO I MEAN LOOKING AT THIS IN IT I MADE A NOTE ON IT AS WELL.

MSRP IS 40,008 48 AND WE ARE PAYING LITERALLY LIKE A $600 LESS THAN THAT ON THAT.

AND I MEAN I GET THE MARKET HAS CHANGED BUT WE THAT'S COMING FROM A LOT THOUGH.

THIS ONE'S COMING FROM A LOT ITSELF.

I JUST I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION AND I'M NOT AGAINST REPLACING A VEHICLE AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT OR OR AN FWD VEHICLE.

BUT MY REAL ISSUE HERE IS COMING DOWN TO ENTERPRISE.

HE STOOD UP HERE AND PRESENTED HIMSELF AS BEING WE'RE SO LARGE.

FORD DOES WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT WE WANT.

WE'RE SO LARGE, CHEVY DOES. WE'RE THE LARGEST VEHICLE BUYER IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

WE'RE THE GREATEST THING THAT'S EVER EXISTED.

AND WE GET BETTER DEALS THAN ANYBODY.

AND SO FAR WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.

I MEAN, HE'S BOUGHT OFF THE LOT. WE HAD TO GET THAT ONE REPLACEMENT PD VEHICLE THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.

THAT WAS A LOT PRICE THIS THESE TWO HERE AGAIN A LOT PRICES AND I JUST I'M NOT I LIKE THE IDEA BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING SPECIAL OUTSIDE OF LETTING US FINANCE OR LEASE IT THAN WHAT ANYBODY ELSE COULD DO.

NOW IF IF COUNCIL WANTS US, WE CAN PUT THE ORDERS IN LIKE FOR ALL THE F TWO FIFTIES AND WE CAN DO THAT NOW.

SO WE AT LEAST HAVE AN ALLOCATION COMING TO US BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT A YEAR BUILD OUT.

THAT'S WHY WE BETWEEN ONCE THE ORDERS PLACED UNTIL WE CAN GET IT, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW.

SO, SO ENTERPRISE WITH ALL THEIR GREATNESS AND BUYING POWER AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAD STATED, YOU'RE TELLING US THAT IF WE WANTED TO IF PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO NEED THE F TWO FIFTIES BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT TOO.

IT'S FOR THAT.

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SO THE CHART THAT HE PRESENTED THAT WE BASED OUR.

AND ON THE FIRST YEAR WE WERE GOING TO REPLACE THE MAJORITY OF OUR VEHICLES.

YEAH, WE WERE GOING TO REPLACE LIKE 14 OF THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THE PROBLEM THAT WE RAN INTO WAS WITH THE TAHOE'S.

WE COULDN'T GET THE NON PURSUIT RATED ONES BECAUSE WHEN THE MARKET HAD FLIPPED IT WAS LIKE HIGH COUNTRY.

AND I TOLD STAFF WE'RE NOT BUYING 80,000 TAHOE'S JUST TO DRIVE AROUND.

SO THAT LED US DOWN THE ROAD OF TRYING TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE, WHICH WAS THE FORD EXPLORER, JUST THE XLT AND THOSE WE DID FIND SOME ON THE LOT FOR THOSE.

THEN WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CHEVY WAS THE CHEVY CANCELED A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEIR ALLOCATIONS DURING THAT TIME FRAME.

SO THEY HAD I THINK THEY OPENED IT UP FOR SO MANY CARS AND THEN THEY CANCELED HALF OF THE ORDERS.

SO BECAUSE OF THE CHIP MANUFACTURING, WHICH AGAIN, THAT'S ON THE MANUFACTURER, IF WE PUT THE ORDER IN AND THEY JUST START CANCELING IT, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN THE ENTERPRISE OR ANYONE COULD REALLY DO WITH THAT.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DEFEND ENTERPRISE.

I'M JUST MY ISSUE BECAUSE OF MY OTHER EXPERIENCE.

I HAVE A FLEET AND I HAVE FLEET PRICING WITH TWO DEALERS DIRECT, NOT WITH ENTERPRISE, AND I'M A SMALL FISH COMPARED TO WHAT ENTERPRISE SAYS THAT THEY ARE.

AND I JUST GOT ALL OF MY VEHICLES THAT I ORDERED SIX MONTHS AGO FOR A LOT LESS MONEY THAN WHAT THEY'RE STATING FOR AN XLT EXPLORER.

AND I'M THE LITTLE GUY.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M KIND OF RUNNING INTO SOME SOME QUESTION.

AND I MEAN, AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS JUST A FORD EXPLORER, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PACKAGES AND ALL EVEN THE DEALERS AROUND HERE, ONE IN MCKINNEY IN PARTICULAR WHO IS MY FLEET DEALER, HAD STUFF ON THEIR LOT THAT THEY'RE SELLING FOR LESS THAN LESS THAN MSRP.

AND WE'RE PRETTY MUCH PAYING AN MSRP ON THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO ORDER IT.

IT'S. YEAH, I'M JUST GOING OFF WITH THE INFORMATION I GOT FROM THEM.

SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

DID THEY OFFER ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES OR GUIDANCE? BECAUSE I GUESS I'M TOTALLY AT A LOSS HERE.

NO, I DON'T BLAME I MADE THAT GUY SAY A LOT OF THINGS ON THE RECORDING BECAUSE I WAS GETTING SOME WARED THOUGHTS AND EVERYTHING IS COMING FORWARD AND I SHOULD HAVE GONE WITH MY GUT, BUT I'LL PAY FOR THAT LATER.

THE IDEA THAT THAT WE'RE RUNNING THROUGH HERE AND THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS NOTHING THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED HAS COME TO FRUITION.

AND THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WERE QUESTIONED ABOUT THE UPCOMING CHIP SHORTAGE.

AND WE JUST WE WERE TOLD OVER AND OVER AGAIN, ARE THEY GIVING ANYTHING INTO THE REALM OF EVEN AND I'M SORRY THAT, YOU KNOW, I SOLD YOU A BILL OF GOODS.

WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH ENTERPRISE.

I KNOW KENNY'S HAD PROBABLY SOME OF THE SAME CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD OF NOT BEING HAPPY WITH CERTAIN ASPECTS OF TAKING PLACE.

THEY HAVE GIVEN US INFORMATION SHOWING US WHY THERE'S SUCH A SHORTAGE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MANUFACTURERS LIKE F TWO FIFTIES.

THEIR PRICING I THINK, CAME OUT MIDDAY YESTERDAY.

THAT'S WHY I GOT THOSE THIS MORNING.

SO YEAH, THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP US INFORMED AS POSSIBLE ON THIS.

WHAT'S TAKING PLACE AGAIN, WITHIN THEIR EMAIL THEY SAID ALSO DEPENDING ON ALLOCATIONS, IF WE PUT AN ORDER IN SIX, WE MIGHT GET SIX, WE MIGHT GET TWO DEPENDING ON WHAT FORD WANTS TO DO AT THAT TIME.

OR WE COULD GET NON VERIFIED SOME OF THE STUFF THEY TELL US BASED ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT I MEAN OUTSIDE OF THAT AND I'M GETTING THE SAME RESPONSES FOR OTHER PLACES IN THE WORLD, NOT 100% IDENTICAL ALERT.

AND THEN WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT THE DEALERS OPTIONS, THE CAR THAT'S IN THIS PROPOSAL IS THE CHEAPEST OPTION.

THEY DID PRESENT US WITH FOUR OTHERS THAT WERE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE.

WE WE. I WENT THROUGH AND STARTED LOOKING AT DEALERS AROUND HERE MYSELF, AND THAT WAS MSRP ALSO 39, WHATEVER.

AND SOME CHANGES, PRETTY MUCH THE STANDARD RATE RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WE'RE PAYING ENTERPRISE TO FIND THESE VEHICLES FOR US AT THAT PRICE.

THAT'S WHERE I'M KIND OF RUNNING IT.

AND I KNOW ISSUES WITH MAINTENANCE BECAUSE I'M INVOLVED IN SIGNING SOME OF THE CHECKS.

AND IT'S JUST IT'S I BECOME A IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE KIND OF SCENARIO HERE? BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE ANYTHING SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY SOLD US ON.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M HAVING AN ISSUE ON DOING THIS.

[01:05:01]

IF WE NEED THEM, WE NEED THEM.

BUT TO ME, I'M HAVING A REAL ISSUE ON THEY'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE ANYTHING.

I DON'T SEE THE VALUE IN USING ENTERPRISE ANYMORE.

I GUESS THAT'S THE WAY TO PUT IT.

I'M MISSING WHERE THE VALUE IS OUTSIDE OF FINANCE OPTION OR LEASE OPTION RATHER, BECAUSE WE DON'T FINANCE IT.

RELEASE IT. OKAY.

ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT MAYBE WE TERMINATE THIS CONTRACT? I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE LOOK INTO IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT GROUNDS I MEAN WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE HAVE ONE OF THEIR VEHICLES DO WE ONLY ONLY HAVE ONE VEHICLE SO FAR WE PAID FOR THAT ONE CASH OUT.

WE, WE BOUGHT, WE JUST GOT THE ONE PDB GOING THROUGH THEM.

WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO CUT THEM A CHECK FOR THE FULL AMOUNT ON THAT.

I BELIEVE I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE CONTRACT.

I THINK HE SAID WE COULD CONTINUE TO PAY OUT THAT ONE AS LONG AS WE WANTED.

WE JUST COULD CHOOSE TO ELECT TO BUY OUTSIDE.

NOW I'D HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I DON'T KNOW. I JUST.

I MEAN, I'VE GOT TO BE MISSING SOMETHING HERE.

AND PLEASE TELL ME IF Y'ALL ARE SEEING WHAT I'M NOT.

BUT WHAT VALUE ARE WE GETTING FOR THE EXTRA MONEY WE PAY ENTERPRISE FOR THEM TO MANAGE THIS WHOLE PROCESS? DOES COUNCIL WANT TO GIVE TRI DIRECTION IN LOOKING INTO THE CONTRACT? OH, I ABSOLUTELY DO.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE IN THE CONTRACT.

OKAY. IT MAKES SENSE.

I SEE MICHAEL'S POINT.

AND I MEAN, THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT, THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE PUTTING IN, THERE'S SO MUCH WORK.

AND THE IDEA WAS THAT THIS WASN'T GOING TO THIS WAS GOING TO MAKE THEM ALL WORK EASIER.

YEAH, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE WILL.

IT'S JUST LET'S FIND OUT WHAT WORKS.

I WOULD ABSOLUTELY.

AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER LYNCH, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING, IS THE WHOLE IDEA IS WE WERE PAYING FOR A FLEET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

AND I FEEL LIKE BETWEEN CITY ADMINISTRATOR OLSON AND NOW ASSISTANT CHIEF PRYCE AND CHIEF SHEFF, THEY'RE HAVING TO PUT IN SO MUCH WORK INTO THESE VEHICLES AND LOOKING THROUGH IT, I JUST I DON'T SEE WHAT HE PROMISED.

WE'RE GOING TO COME AND WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THIS IS THE BEST OPTION AND HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET FOR YOURS.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW WHAT THOSE THOSE COSTS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND I'M JUST NOT SEEING THAT.

I'M SEEING HERE PAY FULL PRICE AND STILL PAY US OUR FINDER'S FEE.

JUST TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

WHETHER WE USE ENTERPRISE OR WHEREVER ELSE, THE WORK THAT COMES IN TO THE PAPERWORK THAT YOU GET TO BUILD, THIS CAR IS STILL GOING TO FALL ON US BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THEM OUTFITTED THE WAY WE NEED THEM TO WORK.

AND WE COULDN'T JUST LEAVE THAT TO SOMEBODY WHO'S NEVER EVEN BEEN TO THAT JOB.

SO THAT'S THAT WORKLOAD IS NOT GOING TO LESSEN.

THE IDEA THAT ASSISTANT CHIEF PRICE WAS WHAT THEY TOLD US IS THERE WOULD BE A BASICALLY LIKE A MENU ISED ITEM OF I'M GOING TO PICK THIS.

AND SO ALL OF ALL SIX OF THOSE EXPLORERS THAT GET REPLACED THIS YEAR ARE GOING TO LOOK JUST LIKE THIS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO EACH TIME IT'S CHANGING AND THE NUMBERS KEEP CHANGING AND WE ORDERED TRUCKS FROM THEM AT ONE PRICE AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND SAY THEY CAN'T DO IT AT THAT PRICE.

IT'S GOT TO BE THE OTHER PRICE.

AND IT'S I JUST I'M NOT SEEING IT.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S PUTTING MORE WORK ON OUR STAFF.

SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN FINDING THAT OUT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THESE BECAUSE WE NEED THE VEHICLES AND THEY HAVE THEM.

BUT I JUST I'M CONCERNED TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS.

I DON'T SEE THE SAVINGS.

OKAY. YEAH.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WELL, I NEED TWO PUBLIC WORKS TRUCKS COMING UP.

THOSE ARE GETTING ROUGH.

AND THEN THE POLICE AND THE AT LEAST ONE PLACE AND THE ONE FIRE VEHICLE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.

I DON'T HAVE THE I DID NOT PUT THE TRUCKS ON THERE JUST BECAUSE I WOULDN'T HAVE PRICING UNTIL TODAY.

AND THAT WAS A YEAR. THAT'S A YEAR OUT, THOUGH.

THAT'S A YEAR OUT JUST TO GET OUR NAME ON THE ALLOCATION LIST.

AND IT TOOK A YEAR ON THE LAST TRUCK THAT WE GOT TO.

YEAH. DO YOU SEE AN ISSUE WITH US BEING ABLE TO GO AT THIS ALONE AND BE ABLE TO GET ON THE LIST TO PURCHASE? IT DEPENDS ON IF THE DEALERS ARE DOING FLEET.

AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST QUESTION I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT, BUT I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT WE CAN GO THROUGH WHAT WE BOUGHT THE TRUCK FROM AND FOR THE FLEET SALES OVER THERE AND THEY WOULD WORK WITH US ON OBTAINING TRUCKS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE THINGS, BUT THE TRUCKS WILL BE.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S HAVING A PROBLEM OF GETTING VEHICLES.

I THINK THAT'S JUST A PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING THESE DAYS AND THE COSTS ARE GOING UP.

I CAN TELL YOU JUST FROM A FIRE TRUCK PERSPECTIVE.

[01:10:04]

I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THE WORLD HAS CHANGED SINCE ENTERPRISE MADE THEIR.

YET IN A MANNER THAT I'M SURE THEY DID NOT NECESSARILY PREDICT.

NEVERTHELESS, WHAT IS NOW OCCURRED IS NOT NECESSARILY OPERATIVE FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE.

YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.

AND SOME OF IT BEING THE HE WAS QUESTIONED ON WITH THE CHANGING.

WHAT ABOUT THE CHANGING? OH, WELL, WE'VE BEEN IN MARKET ANALYSIS FOR THE LAST SO MANY YEARS.

WE CAN FORESEE WHAT'S COMING UP.

AND, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S THAT'S I'M GOING TO GET OFF MY SOAPBOX ABOUT ENTERPRISE TO SAY I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE VEHICLES, I MEAN, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS WITH THESE TWO VEHICLES IF WE NEED THEM OUTSIDE OF ENTERPRISE, WE HAVE TO GO REPRICE THEM SEPARATELY.

YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO GO REPRICE THEM SEPARATELY, WORK WITH A FLEET DEALER OF SOME SORT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET AT THAT POINT.

YEAH, WELL, THESE ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER A YEAR.

CAN WE WAIT THAT LONG? WELL, THE EXPLORERS ARE ON THE LOTS THEMSELVES.

IT'S HARD FINDING A RED EXPLORER.

THAT'S THE FIRE RED FIRE TRUCK OR ED.

BUT WE DID FIRE ONE, APPARENTLY.

AND CHIEF SHEFF MAY NOT LOVE THE STATEMENT, BUT WORST CASE, WE COULD ALWAYS FIND A WHITE ONE AND PUT FIRE DEPARTMENT ON IT.

I KNOW HE WANTS A RED ONE, BUT IF WE LOST THIS ONE AND WE TURNED TO RED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ONE, YEAH, I THINK WE COULD GO WITH WHITE PD.

CAN YOU GUYS DO WHITE OR BLACK OUT THERE? WHITE? OBVIOUSLY, BLACK IS THE EASIEST ONE.

I COULD THROW A LITTLE STRIPE ON IT AND IT'S A LOT CHEAPER THAN WRAPPING THE DOORS AND DOING OTHER THINGS.

SO WHITE, BLACK OR GRAY IS WHAT I'M HERE.

WHATEVER COLOR. THERE WAS A CITY I USED TO WORK FOR THAT THEIR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WENT TO ONE OF THE DEALERS AND GOT THE UGLIEST CARS, THE COLORS, AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITY DROVE.

SO THEY WERE BRIGHT YELLOW, ORANGE, NO CARS THAT NO ONE WANTED AT THAT TIME.

BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE PRICE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COMMAND EXPLORER AT $70,000.

I MEAN, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE HIGH TO ME.

I THINK THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THAT FOOD OUTFITTING.

YEAH, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PRICE OF THE VEHICLE AND OUTFITTING ALTOGETHER.

THAT'S EVERYTHING. BUT YOU CAN'T MOVE THE EQUIPMENT FROM ONE VEHICLE TO ANOTHER.

REALLY. A LOT OF THAT IS JUST EMBEDDED.

THE COST OF PULLING THE WIRES AND PULLING IT OUT AND PULLING IT OUT IN A WAY THAT IT'S NOT DAMAGING THE EQUIPMENT IS THAT THE EQUIPMENT'S BEEN ON THE VEHICLE FOR TEN YEARS, ALMOST TEN YEARS NOW, AND EVENTUALLY THIS STUFF WENT OUT OF CONTROL BACK.

SO THEY DO HAVE A SHELF LIFE EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE THAT'S $15,000 WORTH OF EQUIPMENT.

I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE $70,000 FOR AN EXPLORER IS AWFULLY HIGH.

I'M YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE COST BENEFIT OR THIS CONTRACT AND SEE WHAT IT IS AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

WE CAN'T GET THE VEHICLE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, BUT.

BUT WE WERE SOLD, I THINK, SOME PROMISES THAT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, BUT THEY CAME TO DELIVER.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY WOULD EVER GET TO BE INVOLVED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

WELL, THAT WASN'T YEAH, THAT WAS WHAT THAT'S WHAT IT CALLED FOR.

BUT THEN WHEN ORDERS STARTED CANCELING ON US, THAT THAT BECAME OUT OF FRUITION.

WELL, THEN, MADAM MAYOR, I ACTUALLY WOULD MOVE THAT WE TABLED THIS ITEM WITH STAFF HAVING THE DIRECTION OF DOING THE RESEARCH.

SORRY. SMALL CORRECTION.

YOU'LL MOVE TO POSTPONE IT.

YES, MOVE TO POSTPONE THE ITEM AND GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND FIND LOCAL DEALERS TO FIND OUT IF WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS.

[01:15:18]

AND FOR THIS ISN'T A PART OF THE MOTION? WELL, I THINK FOR CLARITY IT WOULD BE.

JUST. JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT'S A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO AN EVENT CERTAIN AND THAT'S STAFF TO BE ABLE TO FIND OPTIONS TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL.

AND AT THAT TIME, STAFF CAN PLACE THIS ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

WHAT HE SAID, OKAY.

I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED MOTION PASSES? THREE. OH. AND ALSO TRY.

YOU SAID THAT WE DIDN'T NEED A MOTION ON IT, BUT WOULD YOU PLEASE RESEARCH THE CONTRACT? OKAY. ADAM, 30.

[13. DISCUSSION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. 832 AMENDING ORDINANCE NOS. 770 AND 498 REGARDING POLICE DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS AND APPOINTMENT OF A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.]

COUNSEL YOU HAVE THIS IN YOUR PACKET.

IN ORDER TO APPOINT A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE TO OVERSEE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAD TO AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 770 AND 498 AND TO 830 TO THE.

AT THIS TIME, IF THIS PASSES, WE WILL REMOVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM THE SUPERVISION OF ADMINISTRATION AND OR LUKE OLSON.

THE REASON BEING MR. OLSON IS SO OVERWORKED RIGHT NOW.

HE NEEDS TO HAVE SOME THINGS TAKEN OFF HIS PLATE.

AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES TIME AND NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF HIS PLATES UNTIL EITHER HE FREES UP OR WE GET A POLICE CHIEF IN PLACE.

SO. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? IF THE COMMITTEE, THE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WOULD CONSIST OF THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE APPOINTED AND SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.

I WAS THINKING DIANA ABRAHAM, BECAUSE SHE ALSO HAS A BACKGROUND IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

UNFORTUNATELY, SHE IS NOT HERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT HER SCHEDULE MIGHT BE.

SO JUST SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE SO I COULD REACH OUT TO HER IF THAT'S OKAY WITH COUNCIL.

WERE YOU ALL TALKED OUT AFTER THIS? SO IF WE DON'T HAVE TO APPOINT HER, IF SHE DOESN'T WANT IT, THAT'S SO.

DO WE NEED TO POSTPONE THIS ONE AS WELL, OR.

NO. WHAT YOU COULD DO IS YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND PASS THE ORDINANCE, WHICH AMENDS THE PRIOR ORDINANCES TO WHICH ESTABLISHES THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.

AND THEN AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE COULD PUT ON THE APPOINTMENT OF THAT THIRD COUNCIL MEMBER TO THIS COMMITTEE.

FOR THE TIME BEING. THE OTHER TWO WOULD STILL BE ON THE COMMITTEE SINCE THEY'RE LISTED, RIGHT? CORRECT. MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 832 AMENDING ORDINANCES, NUMBER 770 AND 4.98 REGARDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS AND APPOINTMENT OF A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 832, AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 770 AND 498

[01:20:07]

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

THEN I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES THREE ZERO OK.

MR. OLSON, DO YOU WANT TO DO A QUICK UPDATE ON 2551?

[14. UPDATE(S)]

WE'VE GOT TO GET WITH JOHN ON THAT.

I GOT AN EMAIL I THINK YESTERDAY, SO WE GOT TO GET WITH JOHN ON THAT ON OUR SCHEDULING FOR OUR WATERLINE REPLACEMENTS.

AND THEN GARY.

WAS THERE ANYTHING ON THE CALL THIS WEEK WORTH NOTING? THE SCHEDULING THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR THE, THE DESIGN THAT THE RELOCATION.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

AND I KEEP NOTIFYING THEM OF THAT.

THEY'RE PUSHING HARD FOR APRIL MEETING OF THE CONTRACT WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING DONE IN JANUARY FOR THEM AND I THINK WE'RE ON TRACK WITH THAT.

BUT AGAIN, UTILITIES, THE ONLY UTILITIES OUT THERE RIGHT NOW IS NORTH TEXAS.

AND AND THERE'S A LOT MORE WITH ELECTRIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOT TO BE DONE OUT THERE.

SO I GUESS WE'LL SEE IF IT LETS IN APRIL OR NOT AT THIS POINT.

OKAY. SO WE THINK IT'S ON TRACK FOR OUR PORTION IS.

YES, AS WE'VE AGREED WITH THEM.

HAVE WE HEARD FROM TEXTRON AT ALL? JUST THE EMAIL I GOT YESTERDAY AND THEN I THINK, GARY, YOU SPOKE WITH THEM TODAY, ALTHOUGH I'M MEETING WITH THEM THIS MORNING.

YES. WITH ON THE PROJECT.

SO OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT'S ALL WE KNOW AT THIS POINT.

I HAVEN'T GOT ANY UPDATES ON ANY OF THE OTHER CONTRACTORS IN THE AREA.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING COME ACROSS.

NORTH TEXAS IS MAKING THE TIE INS ON THEIR WATER ON.

WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES WITH THEM CLOSING DOWN, CURTIS, LIKE THEY'VE DONE.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT AND WORKING THROUGH THAT.

THEY'RE TRYING TO NOT CLOSE IT.

THEY'RE TRYING TO LEAVE THE BARRICADES KIND OF UP.

BUT YOU CAN GO THROUGH THERE IF YOU NEED TO AS A KIND OF A DETERRENT OR TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN.

THAT COMES SPEEDING THROUGH THERE.

AND THEN WHEN THEY GET DONE, THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO BE DONE WITH THEIR TIE INS BY THE END OF NOVEMBER.

AND THEN IN EARLY DECEMBER, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE PERMANENT ASPHALT PATCH FOR THAT SECTION OF ROAD.

THAT'S HORRIBLE. WEATHER PERMITTING, WEATHER PERMITTING MORE BY THE TIME YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING ASPHALT DOWN.

WELL, THAT'S ALL WE KNOW AT THIS TIME FROM TEXT DOT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, MIKE DIDN'T JUMP, SO IT MUST BE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE UPDATES? OH, I'LL UPDATE ON COMP PLAN.

SO WE STARTED THAT PROCESS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, AND IT WAS GOING PRETTY WELL.

OUR LAST MEETING, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DETERMINE SURVEY QUESTIONS.

WE HAD A QUORUM OF COUNCIL AND WE HAD ONE MEMBER OR TWO MEMBERS OF P AND Z.

SO WE DID NOT HAVE A QUORUM AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GO FORWARD.

HOPEFULLY, IF ANY OF THEM ARE LISTENING, I THINK CITY ADMINISTRATOR OLSON HAS TRIED TO GET DATES FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

MY POSITION IS WE ATTEMPT TO WORK THIS OUT AND IF NOT, COUNCIL MEETS IN ONE OF OUR VARIOUS WORKSHOPS THAT WE'VE GOT GOING FORWARD AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS WITHOUT P AND Z.

IF I MEAN IF WE EXTEND THE OLIVE BRANCH, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO SLOW IT DOWN ANY THING ELSE.

I WILL NOTE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE WORKSHOP ESTABLISHED FOR CFP AND SEVERAL OTHER THINGS, WATER RIGHTS AND AND HOPEFULLY YOU'VE NOW GOT THE DATES.

MR. OLSON TO TRY TO PUT THINGS.

I'VE GOT ONE DATE AND IF YOU CAN MARK IT ON YOUR CALENDAR, WHAT DO I SAY? DECEMBER 13TH. CAN'T REMEMBER NOW.

DECEMBER 13TH? YES, DECEMBER 13TH.

IT'S THAT TUESDAY. YEAH.

I'M JUST NOT SURE ON TIME YET.

SO WE'RE I'M TRYING TO GET THAT FIGURED OUT.

MR.. ON WATER RIGHTS, THAT'S ON THE WATER RATES.

MR. JACKSON SAID HE WAS AVAILABLE THAT EVENING.

I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN IF IT'S AMENABLE TO COUNCIL, IF WE CAN JUST KNOCK OUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF AND A COUPLE HOUR PERIOD, MAYBE START AT ONE OR SOMETHING AND TRY TO KNOCK OUT SEVERAL OF THESE ITEMS ALL AT ONCE AND JUST MOVE FORWARD ON THOSE WHILE WE HAVE YOUR UNDIVIDED ATTENTION AT THAT TIME.

[01:25:08]

I DON'T MAKE ANY PROMISES ON HOW MY ATTENTION IS DIVIDED.

WE WILL HAVE COFFEE.

THERE IS A COFFEE POT.

I THINK WE STILL HAVE IT CURB.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE.

NO ONE ON STAFF DRINKS, COFFEE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER REPORTS, UPDATES? ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FROM ANYONE? SORRY, MAYOR. YOU SKIPPED THE DONATION AS PART OF THAT SECTION OF IT.

OKAY, WE'LL DO DONATIONS FIRST.

OKAY. WE FOR THE RECORD, WE WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT A DONATION FROM CHIP AND LINDA JUSTICE, WHO DONATED TWO DOZEN TIPS.

TREAT COOKIES ESTIMATED AND A VALUE OF $40.

NOW, CAN I GO? IS THERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS BESIDES THE RESEARCH ON THE CARS?

[15. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

AND IF WE CAN FIND A THIRD PERSON OR FOURTH PERSON FOR THE VACANCY ON ZBA, I BELIEVE IT IS.

WE HAD STILL ONE OPEN POSITION.

OKAY. HOW DID YOU GET THAT? OK ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? THAT BEING THE CASE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

IT IS 936.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.