Oct 18, 2022 City Council

[CALL TO ORDER]

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YES, MADAM MAYOR, YOU DO.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

WE ARE RECONVENING OUR REGULAR MEETING AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION COUNCIL IS THERE ANY ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, MADAM MAYOR.

OK, THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO DOING THE PLEDGES AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE A PLEDGING KIND OF GROUP.

OKAY, MR. STANDRIDGE, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE AMERICAN PLEDGE? AND, SALLY, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE? THANK YOU. OKAY.

I SEE WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

UNLIKE SOMETIMES I'M GOING TO READ THIS TIME.

MY NAME IS ED STANDRIDGE, 3607 HOKE DRIVE PARKER, TEXAS 75002-6733.

I'VE BEEN A PARKER RESIDENT SINCE 1999.

I'VE SERVED ON NUMEROUS COMMITTEES AND ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'M PROUD TO BE A PARKER RESIDENT.

WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS MY CONCERN THAT WE HAVE A FEW CITIZENS IN PARKER THAT SEEM TO ENJOY HOLDING PARKER BACK AND GAIN ATTENTION BEING NEGATIVE.

WHEN I MOVED TO PARKER, WE WERE A PROGRESSIVE, THRIVING COMMUNITY, THE ENVY OF DFW AND TOUTED TO BE ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE COMMUNITIES IN DFW.

WE HAD PRIDE IN OUR UNIQUELY COUNTRY COMMUNITY.

HOWEVER, OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE BECOME A SMALL TOWN WITH A STALE ATTITUDE, ENCOURAGED BY A FEW WHO OPPOSE ANY CHANGE.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PRIDE OF YESTERYEAR? IF YOU READ THE PAPER OR WATCH THE NEWS, MANY SMALL TOWNS, MUCH LIKE PARKER, ARE PROGRESSING.

PRINCETON HAS A NEWLY COMPLETED MUNICIPAL BUILDING, SALINA, WITH GROWTH AND COUNTRY CHARM.

AUBREY WITH ITS SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE AND THE LIST GOES ON, AS IDENTIFIED IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS EVERY SUNDAY EXCEPT FOR PARKER.

WE HAVE LOST OUR TOWN OR WE HAVE LET OUR TOWN FALL BEHIND.

OVER THE PAST YEARS, EFFORTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO PASS A MUNICIPAL BUILDING BOND WHERE THE EMPLOYEES OF PARKER HAVE SUFFICIENT WORK SPACE AND AT THE SAME TIME REFLECTS PRIDE AND PROFESSIONALISM IN OUR COMMUNITY IN DFW.

IF WE HAD POSITIVE SUPPORT FROM PARKER RESIDENTS FIVE PLUS YEARS AGO, WE'D BE MEETING IN AN ATTRACTIVE COMPLEX THAT WOULD SUPPORT OUR CITY REQUIREMENTS AND REFLECT A PROGRESSIVE COMMUNITY.

INSTEAD, WE ENDURE OVERCROWDED SPACE FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES AND A DETERIORATING PORTABLE BUILDING FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH I MIGHT ADD THAT WE PAY A MONTHLY

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TODAY BECAUSE THE COST OF MATERIAL AND LABOR TO BUILD A COMPLEX EVEN SMALLER THAN WE HAVE DISCUSSED WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF 30% GREATER.

SOME CITIZENS HAVE ASKED WHY WE ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD AS A DECISION IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNCIL, HOWEVER, TO MOVE FORWARD OR PAUSE TO VOTE ON A BOND FROM PARKER CITIZENS IS NECESSARY.

A FURTHER EXAMPLE OF OUR DECLINE IS WITH THE RECENT BUDGET.

THE VOTE FOR A TAX REDUCTION WAS APPROVED.

BUT WHY? WE HAVE STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEED A MAJOR REPAIR.

BUT MORE IMPORTANT IS HOW WE'RE TREATING OUR CITY EMPLOYEES COMPARED TO OTHER MUNICIPALS.

GO BACK TO THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS AND IT SAYS SOME THINGS ABOUT THAT, HOW EMPLOYEES ARE BEING TREATED IN MUNICIPALITIES.

ARE THEY BEING REWARDED FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS? THINK OF FEBRUARY WHEN THE FREEZE AND THE CITY WORKERS WERE OUT IN FORCE, AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES, WORKING TO SUPPORT US THE CITIZENS, THAT EACH TAKE PRIDE IN BEING THERE TO ASSIST YOU.

AND THE LIST GOES ON.

SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? I, FOR ONE, HAVE PRIDE IN PARKER AND ALL EMPLOYEES EXCUSE ME OF PARKER AND WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ALL CITY EMPLOYEES, POLICE AND FIRE AND THE NEED FOR A MUNICIPAL BUILDING.

WE NEED TO REGAIN THE PRIDE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKE PARKER ONCE AGAIN A GROWING JEWEL IN DFW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. STANDRIDGE. OK.

WHERE'S SALLY.

COME ON UP, SALLY.

SALLY BENNEX. PLEASE, WHEN YOU SPEAK, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR COMPLETE ADDRESS.

SURE. SALLY BENNIX.

SALLY BENNIX, 6305 NORTHRIDGE PARKWAY IN 75002.

WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING TONIGHT, BUT I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA FOR SOUTHRIDGE ESTATES, AND WE ARE VERY CONCERNED REGARDING THE PLANNED TXDOT EXPANSION OF 2551, PARTICULARLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE LACK OF TRAFFIC CONTROL AND THE ENTRANCE WAY THAT WILL CREATE A PASS THROUGH TO LUCAS, THROUGH RAVENSTHORPE AND THE CUT OFF OF FIVE HOUSES THAT ARE OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS.

AND WE WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN DETERMINING A SOLUTION TO THAT.

WE'VE SPOKEN TO TEXT AND HAVE PROPOSED SOMETHING.

WE KNOW THERE ARE CHALLENGES, INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES, AND WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM ANYONE? OKAY. THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO SOME ITEMS OF INTEREST.

[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

THE LINK TO THAT IS ON THE AGENDA SHEET.

SO IF YOU NEED HOME HAZARDOUS WASTE, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND HOOK UP WITH THEM AND THEY WILL COME OUT AND PICK IT UP.

NEXT, WE HAVE A NATIONAL PRESCRIPTION DRUG TAKEBACK EVENT ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 29TH, FROM 10 TO 2, AT WHICH TIME THERE WILL BE POLICE OFFICERS OUT IN THE DRIVE THRU.

SO ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DROP THEM OFF AND KEEP ON GOING.

ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 30TH, FROM 3 TO 6 P.M.

WE WILL HAVE PARKER FEST.

WE ARE VERY MUCH IN NEED OF AND WOULD APPRECIATE SOME VOLUNTEERS TO HELP US PUT ON THE EVENT AND RUN THE EVENT.

THE BLUES BROTHERS WILL BE BACK AND YOU CAN GO ONLINE TO THEIR WEBSITE AND GET AN IDEA OF THEM IF YOU IF YOU WISH.

THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF NOVEMBER 1ST IS CANCELED DUE TO EARLY VOTING, AND EARLY VOTING STARTS ON MONDAY THE 24TH, AND WILL RUN TO THE ELECTION DAY IN NOVEMBER 8TH.

PARKS AND RECREATION NEXT MEETING IS NOVEMBER 9TH.

I'M NOT SURE OF WHAT TIME IT WILL BE BECAUSE THEY ARE DISCUSSING THAT.

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THE HOLIDAY TREE LIGHTING, WHICH WILL BE ON SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH FROM 4 TO 6 P.M..

AND NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING TO ME ABOUT VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE A SURPRISE IF THEY COULDN'T USE SOME HELP.

OKAY, NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

MINUTES RESOLUTION 2022-715 ON ENCOR, ITEM THREE, RESOLUTION 2022-716.

MEMBERSHIP BETWEEN PARKER AND TCAP.

ITEM FOUR, RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-717.

REGARDING SUSPENDING RULES FOR PARKER FEST.

I'M GOING FAST BECAUSE LUKE'S GOT TO LEAVE TOWN AS SOON AS I GET FINISHED, SO HE HAS THREATENED ME.

SO IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS ANYTHING PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY, THEN I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION.

MADAM MAYOR MOVED TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IS.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ABRAHAM TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? GO AHEAD. I'LL SECOND THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

ANY DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY ALCOHOL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL THOSE AGAINST.

MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

THANK YOU.

ITEM 6, HELP IF I DO ITEM FIVE, WOULDN'T IT?

[5. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2022-706 APPROVING THE CAPITAL ASSET POLICY. [POSTPONED – 07192022]]

I'M STILL GOING TO BE ON THE ROAD FOR A WHILE.

CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-706 APPROVING THE CAPITAL ASSET POLICY, YOU WANT TO..

MAYOR, COUNCIL BACK IN JULY WE HAD BROUGHT A DRAFT TO YOU ALL.

THERE WERE SOME CLARIFICATIONS THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN.

I THINK WE MADE THOSE CLARIFICATIONS.

WE DID FIND AN ORDINANCE THAT WE DID ATTACH FROM 2010 TO DISPOSAL OF ITEMS AND THEN WITH THE REAL PROPERTY WE DID MAKE A, WITH THAT ONE. IF IT, LET ME BACK UP.

THE DISPOSAL, THE 2010 DISPOSAL ORDINANCE, IF THAT EVER GETS AMENDED, YOU KNOW THAT, THIS POLICY WILL ALSO GET AMENDED.

THEN WITH THE REAL PROPERTY, WE REFERRED IT BACK TO STATE STATUTE ON HOW WE DISPOSE OF THOSE PROPERTIES.

THOSE SEEMED LIKE TO BE THE BIGGEST ITEMS IS ANY OTHER POLICIES THAT COME UP.

THOSE WILL TIE INTO THIS OR THIS WILL TIE IN TO THOSE.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT ALL WORK AND TRY NOT TO CREATE A HUGE PROBLEM FOR EVERYONE AND REDOING EVERY ORDINANCE OR EVERY RESOLUTION.

EVERY TIME WE DO SOME MINOR CHANGE OR AUDITORS WANT SOMETHING DONE DIFFERENT.

OKAY, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS JUST ON IT'S ON THE RESOLUTION ITSELF.

SECTION TWO.

IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT STORAGE.

WHERE WILL WE PUT THESE ITEMS? I'M NOT FOLLOWING.

OK TRACKING MAINTENANCE AND DISPOSAL OF CAPITAL ASSETS FROM THE CITY.

WELL, THE 2010 ORDINANCE DESCRIBES HOW WE DISPOSE OF THOSE ASSETS.

MY CONCERN IS WHERE THE KEPT WHERE THE ASSETS KEPT.

DO WE HAVE THEM IN STORAGE OR THOUGH WITH THE DEPARTMENT? WELL, TYPICALLY THEY STAY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT UNTIL IT'S DISPOSED OF.

OKAY. IT JUST WASN'T CLEAR TO ME.

LIKE THERE'S A PRINTER IN OUR HALLWAY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE SOMEONE BURNT UP THE PRINTER FROM CUTTING CHECKS.

WOULD THE UNDER SECTION THREE, DOES THAT COUNSEL OUT, AND THIS MAY BE A TRICK QUESTION.

THE 2010-295.

THIS IS JUST CAPITALIZATION WHEN WE HAVE TO PUT FOR THE AUDIT AND STUFF.

NO.

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IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT CITY RESOLUTIONS.

WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE.

YEAH. TYPICALLY, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A POLICY, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ORDINANCE FOR THIS.

SO. WELL, JUST SINCE THE OTHERS ARE SPELLED OUT.

IS THAT? IS THAT DOABLE? RIGHT.

WE COULD WE COULD ADD THAT WORD IN THERE AND THEN Y'ALL COULD IF YOU IF COUNCIL SO CHOSE TO APPROVE THIS, YOU COULD APPROVE IT AS AMENDED.

WITH THAT, WE WOULD ADD THAT.

OKAY. THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION ON MY PART.

WOULD CALLING WHERE IT SAYS ALL CITY ORDINANCES, WOULD THAT INCLUDE RESOLUTIONS OR DO WE NEED THE ACTUAL WORD RESOLUTIONS IN THERE? WELL, I THINK IT'S GOT POLICIES, RULES AND REQUIREMENTS.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY A RESOLUTION IS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT WHEN YOU BELIEVE TYPICALLY WHAT YOU'RE MOST LIKELY COVERED.

THE ATTORNEY IN ME WOULD ALWAYS SAY, IF YOU CAN BE MORE SPECIFIC, BE MORE SPECIFIC, BUT I THINK YOU WOULD BE COVERED IN THIS INSTANCE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION PASSED BY COUNCIL WOULD CERTAINLY BE A REQUIREMENT THAT HAS BEEN PLACED ON STAFF.

OKAY.

I HAD A QUESTION UNDER 4.4.

I'M JUST FULL OF QUESTIONS TONIGHT.

IT SAYS COST OF FIXTURES PERMANENTLY ATTACHED.

WE HAVE A RAMP RAIL SYSTEM ATTACHED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IS THAT CONSIDERED PERMANENTLY ATTACHED WHEN IT'S TO A MODULAR RENTED BUILDING? I DON'T THINK IT WOULD MEET THE CAPITALIZATION THRESHOLD FOR THAT.

JUST IT'S BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS FOR 25,000.

I THINK THAT I HOPE THAT RAMP DID NOT COST US 25,000 WHEN WE DID WHEN WE REDID THE RAMPS AND EVERYTHING, IT WAS, WHAT, 21,000? THAT WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF, THOUGH.

THAT WAS AWNINGS AND RAMPS AND LIGHTING AND MET THE THRESHOLD IS MY POINT.

OH YEAH, IT ALMOST DID. BUT YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T.

COULD.

ON 6.0.

THE DEPRECIATION AMOUNTS CALCULATED.

WHO DOES THE CALCULATION? I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE OUR AUDITORS.

CORRECT. GRANT.

GRANT OR THE AUDITORS.

OKAY. DOES IT NEED TO SAY THAT? NO. AND LAST QUESTION ON 7.0 BY THE CITY'S FLEET MANAGER, WHO MIGHT THAT BE? UNDER RIGHT NOW, THAT'S UNDER PAT, BECAUSE SHE'S HANDLING ALL THE FLEET RELATED ITEMS. IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? OR DO WE NEED. IT'S ONE OF THOSE OTHER DUTIES AS ASSIGNED WITH PAT.

WELL, I DIDN'T MEAN COMFORTABLE WITH PAT.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH NUMBERS BY CITY FLEET MANAGEMENT UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR.

UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

I'M ASKING, SHOULD THERE BE MORE SPECIFICITY? IS THERE A FORMAL POSITION? I DON'T THINK THERE'S A FLEET MANAGER POSITION IN OUR DEPARTMENTS ANYWAY.

RIGHT. YEAH, WE'RE JUST KIND OF PUTTING FLEET MANAGEMENT UNDERNEATH PAT BECAUSE SHE PAYS ALL THE BILLS, SHE'S TRACKING ALL THE INVOICES AND EVERYTHING UNDER THAT.

SO THAT ONLY MADE SENSE FOR HER TO UNDERSTAND AND HAVE THE UNIT NUMBERING AND ALSO THE LANGUAGE, SAYS CITY'S FLEET MANAGEMENT, NOT MANAGER.

YES, MANAGEMENT, RIGHT.

YEAH, MANAGEMENT.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO ANY OF THE PAYMENTS, THOSE ARE GO THROUGH ANOTHER AVENUE.

SO YEAH, IT'S STILL COMING THROUGH PAT SO THAT'S WHY WE JUST PUT THAT UNDERNEATH HER.

AND IF FOR ANY REASON PAT LEAVES US, FLEET MANAGEMENT WOULD THEN FALL UNDER THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.

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I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT WAS THAT ONE AMENDMENT, THOUGH, THAT WE NEEDED JUST FOR MOTION PURPOSES, WHICH IT'S UNDER.

IT WOULD BE ADDING THE WORD RESOLUTIONS TO SECTION 1.3.

ADD THE WORD RESOLUTIONS TO SECTION 1.3.

MADAM MAYOR, I DO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-706, APPROVING THE CAPITAL ASSET POLICY AS AMENDED BY ADDING CITY RESOLUTION UNDER 1.3 RESPONSIBILITY.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. MAYOR PRO TEM SLAUGHTERED.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL MOVE THE SECOND OK.

AND THAT'S ALSO WITH THE AMENDMENT WITH THE AMENDMENTS TO SECTION 1.3.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OK HEARING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-706 THE CAPITAL ASSET POLICY.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY ONE AGAINST? PASSES FIVE ZERO.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO LUKE GRANT AND STAFF, THIS IS WELL DONE.

VERY GOOD. NOW WE'LL GO TO ITEM SIX UPDATES AND I'M GOING TO GO FIRST BECAUSE I GET TO

[6. UPDATE(S):]

WE'VE GOT ABOUT FIVE WORKSHOPS WE'RE HOLDING UP WATER RESILIENT..

RATES. WATER RATES STUDY FACILITY, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

I COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT JUST SENDING ME A DATE SAYING I CAN BE AVAILABLE 2:00 ON TUESDAY IS NOT GOING TO COVER ALL OF THEM.

SO IF YOU WOULD SEND PATTI THE MOST DATES AND TIMES THAT YOU CAN BE AVAILABLE SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY FIND TIME BECAUSE SOME OF THESE DO REALLY NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR WE START GETTING INTO HOLIDAYS AND THEN PATTI IF YOU'D LET ME KNOW IF YOU DO NOT GET THEM BY 4:00 FRIDAY.

SO BECAUSE I CAN'T SCHEDULE LUKE CAN'T START UNTIL WE HAVE THEM, I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING CRAZY TRYING TO GET Y'ALL TOGETHER. WE HAD TO CANCEL ONE WORKSHOP FOR LACK OF QUORUM, AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN.

SORRY, I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION.

DO YOU WANT MAINLY THOSE DAYS IN NOVEMBER? DO YOU WANT ALL THE DAYS IN NOVEMBER? IN DECEMBER, WHENEVER YOU WILL BE AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, PREFERABLY TILL NOVEMBER.

OKAY, YEAH, IF POSSIBLE.

IF POSSIBLE. AND IF WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT, WE'LL EXPAND THAT.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO WHAT OUT OF THE WE HAVE YOU'RE SAYING WE HAVE FIVE WORKSHOPS AND SO CAN WE PRIORITIZE LIKE BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS AND BECAUSE OF OTHER MEETINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AROUND THAT TIME PLUS EARLY VOTING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

WHAT ARE THE TOP TWO OR THREE THAT WE CAN AT LEAST TRY TO TACKLE IN NOVEMBER? I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO FIVE WATER RIGHTS, PROBABLY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FACILITY, BECAUSE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT FOR BOND OR WHATEVER, IF THAT'S THE DETERMINATION WE NEED TO GET THAT DONE.

THE OTHER THINGS ARE AND THIS ONE I DON'T THINK WILL TAKE VERY LONG.

IT'S ON ANIMAL CONTROL AND THE FEES AND WHAT ELSE? JUST THERE'S A COUPLE OTHERS I DON'T REMEMBER NOW, BUT I THINK WE HAD DUBLIN ROAD.

OH, DUBLIN ROAD WAS ANOTHER ISSUE.

BUT THAT KIND OF FALLS BACK INTO CIP, REALLY.

SO WE COULD ALL HAVE THAT.

AND THERE'S ONE ON FENCES, BUT THAT CAN, THAT CAN BE PUSHED TO NEXT YEAR.

WELL YEAH. THE ONE ON DRAINAGE AND FENCES.

OH YEAH. THAT'S THE ONE.

YEAH. BECAUSE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT.

IT'S LIKE THE ANIMAL ONE COULD PROBABLY HOOK ON WITH ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY LONG.

BUT THEN CERP, I IMAGINE IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE LONG, SO.

WE JUST NEED TO HAVE SOME GUIDANCE ON INSTEAD OF SENDING YOU AN EMAIL SAYING, GEE, CAN YOU BE AVAILABLE TUESDAY AT FOUR?

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MADAM MAYOR, THERE ARE ANY OF THESE THAT WE CAN ADD TO THE.

NO, I THINK OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER.

ARE THERE ANY OF THEM THAT ARE YOU THINK WILL BE SHORT ENOUGH WE COULD ADD TO THAT COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DO WORKSHOPS ON IT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT TIMING IS KIND OF TOUGH WITH THE HOLIDAYS AND WORK SCHEDULES AND ALL OF THAT, IF YOU CAN ALREADY HAVE US CORRALLED AT THAT POINT.

IT'S LIKE ANIMALS THAT ONE CAN PROBABLY BE A REAL QUICK WORKSHOP BEFORE THAT MEETING, BUT YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET THE FULL LIST.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T BRING IT TONIGHT AND GET SOME TIME SO WE CAN MOVE THESE THINGS FORWARD BECAUSE ON SOME OF THEM, WE'RE AT A DEAD STOP.

I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING WE MIGHT NEED ANOTHER WORKSHOP ON COMP PLAN.

WE GOT ONE SCHEDULED.

YEAH, THAT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL, BUT IT'S LIKE CIP.

THAT MIGHT BE MORE THAN THAN ONE.

DON'T KNOW.

ANYWAY, IF Y'ALL WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO DO THAT.

AND THEN JUST SEND PATTI A QUICK EMAIL BY FRIDAY 4:00, AND THEN LUKE CAN PUT THEM TOGETHER AND SEE IF ANYTHING WILL WORK NOW.

BUT IT'S NOT.

WE'RE ROLLING DICE AND GOING FROM THERE.

YEAH. OKAY.

YOU WANT TO DO AN UPDATE? MR. OLSEN ON 2551.

OKAY. WAS THERE A PHONE CALL THIS MORNING THAT.

NO, I ACTUALLY MISSED THAT PHONE CALL.

THEY CHANGED THE TIME.

BY THE TIME I CALLED IN, THEY HAD ALREADY MOVED IT EARLIER.

BASICALLY, RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE NORTH TEXAS IS KIND OF DOING SOME OF THEIR WORK.

THEY'RE STARTING TO GET STUFF MOBILIZED TO DO THEIR CONNECTION.

OUTSIDE OF THAT, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OTHER MOVEMENT ON ANY OTHER UTILITIES OVER THERE.

SO WE'RE AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THEY'RE BEHIND AT THIS POINT.

HAVE YOU HEARD FROM JENNIFER OR ANYBODY AT TECH STOCK? THEY'RE STILL PUSHING FOR AN APRIL LETTING OF THE CONTRACT.

BUT I KNOW THEY'RE PUSHING HARD AND IT'S I DON'T SEE THEM GETTING ALL THAT UTILITIES OUT OF THE WAY BY THAT TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH WINTER COMING UP.

OKAY. YOU WANT TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON ENTERPRISE.

ENTERPRISE. WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE RUNNING INTO RIGHT NOW IS THE COST OF VEHICLES ARE EXTREMELY HIGH.

I THINK WE HAVE EXPLORERS NOW.

CHIEF, WOULD YOU FIND ONE FOR 39? RIGHT AT 40, ALMOST.

BUT THEN YOU START OUTFITTING IT AND YOU'RE UP TO THE 50.

WHAT IF YOU GOT THAT NUMBER? 55, 50 TO 55, 45? THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE COMMAND ONES AND THEN THE COMMAND ONES ARE GOING TO GO OVER TO THE PATROL.

SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AS MUCH EQUIPMENT IN THAT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT PRICING WISE.

SO WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AT SOME POINT AND GO OVER THAT WITH YOU ALL ON THOSE PRICING.

AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS TRUCKS, IT'S I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE THE COST OF THOSE AT THIS POINT. THEY'RE ASTRONOMICAL.

I PERSONALLY CANNOT I WOULD NOT PAY THAT MUCH MONEY FOR A TRUCK, BUT THAT'S JUST ME PERSONALLY.

SO WHAT ARE THEY SAYING? I THINK THE LATEST EMAIL HOLD ON, I GOT AN UPDATE.

I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT 60 IS THE CORRECT FOR 2500.

THEY'LL COME DOWN AT SOME POINT, BUT IT MAY BE A WHILE.

THREE QUARTER TON.

THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING PRICES LOWER THAN 53 RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S FOR 2022S.

THE 2023 IS GOING TO BE A 10% INCREASE.

WHOA. SO AND THEN THE TAHOE OR TAHOE OR NO NOT INTERCEPTOR.

EXPLORER FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THAT.

THAT'S VERY COSTLY IN ITSELF, TOO.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND VEHICLES AND JUST TRYING TO FIND THEM ON THE LOTS THEMSELVES.

AS PROBLEMATIC AS IT IS, WE'VE GOT THEM LOOKING AT ALL DIFFERENT OPTIONS AT THIS POINT.

SO ARE WE KEEPING OUR VEHICLES UNTIL REPLACEMENTS COME IN? CORRECT. YES. ARE WE DOING THE MAINTENANCE ON THEM OR HAVE THEY TAKEN OVER THE MAINTENANCE PART? WE ARE DOING THE MAINTENANCE ON THOSE RIGHT NOW TO SAVE THE CITY, THE $6 CHARGE AT THIS POINT.

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I DO YOU KNOW, AS WE WERE DISCUSSING, THE BILLING HAS BEEN A LITTLE LESS THAN COMFORTABLE AS FAR AS THE WAY THAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED IT.

I'M HOPING BY NEXT MONTH THAT BILL IS CORRECT.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU ALL CAN STRESS TO OUR ACCOUNT, RATHER THAT THE BILLING NEEDS TO BE ACCURATE, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THAT CARRYOVER BALANCE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSEDLY TAKING CARE OF. YEAH, WE I'VE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WHEN I WAS ON VACATION WITH STEPHANIE, HOW THAT WAS NOT HANDLED CORRECTLY.

BUT I WAS OUT IN COLORADO. SO SHE DOES KNOW THAT.

AND I DID SAY MY PIECE WITH SOME OTHER THINGS.

SO THEY'RE AWARE OF IT.

BUT MY ONLY THING IS, IS WE NEED TO START PUTTING THESE ORDERS IN FOR THESE VEHICLES.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL'S APPETITE IS FOR THAT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A MAJOR CONVERSATION.

WHETHER WE HOLD ON TO VEHICLES FOR AN EXTRA YEAR OR 10% INCREASE IS RIDICULOUS.

YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS, I THINK THERE'S FORD'S GOT ALL THE TRUCKS SITTING AT THE INDIANAPOLIS SPEEDWAY RIGHT NOW, ALL WAITING FOR CHIPS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE CHIPS FAST ENOUGH.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS GOING ON.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT FORD IS GOING TO DO TO A QUARTERLY, I THINK IT WAS A QUARTERLY RELEASE ON THEIR VEHICLES.

CHEVY DID A ONE TIME RELEASE FOR THE YEAR.

SO WE'RE FEELING LIKE FORD IS PROBABLY THE ROUTE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO JUST BASED ON THE QUARTER OR THE QUARTERLY RELEASE OF THEIR VEHICLES.

SO SO THAT THAT OPENING, THAT BIT THAT HOW DO I CALL IT, IT'S THE OPEN MARKET THAT THEY'VE PUT OUT THERE FOR THE DEALERS.

AND LIKE ENTERPRISE, IT WILL BE DONE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS AND THEY'LL HAVE AN ALLOTMENT OF VEHICLES THAT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITHIN.

SO I KNOW I THINK I TOLD YOU ALL CHEVY CUT THEIRS IN HALF ONCE THEY GOT ALL THEIR ORDERS.

AND SO THAT DIDN'T HELP US AT ALL EITHER.

ARE WE HAVING ANY ISSUES WITH OUR CARS? AND IF SO, ARE WE HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING PARTS? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY PARTS PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW.

I THINK I'M NOT GOING TO I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

GOOD DECISION. IT'S YEAH, IT'S A REAL ROCKY SUBJECT.

NOW. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

I THINK IT'S JUST JUST LIKE WITH ANYTHING I KNOW.

LIKE IF THERE'S REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

I KNOW. LIKE, PERSONALLY, IT TOOK THEM TEN DAYS.

MY TRUCK SITTING THERE FOR TEN DAYS FOR THEM TO DO A MAINTENANCE ITEM ON IT.

AND I GUESS THAT'S HOW THEY'RE SCHEDULING NOW.

YOUR CAR JUST SITS THERE FOR THAT TIME AND WHEN THEY GET TO IT, THEY GET TO IT AND THERE'S NOT THEY'RE NOT TAKING APPOINTMENTS ANYMORE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE DEALERSHIPS OR SOME OF THOSE OTHER PLACES.

SO THERE IS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES GOING OUT THERE, AND I THINK THAT'S MORE RELATED TO PARTS ISSUES AMONGST THEIR DISTRIBUTION.

BUT THAT'S THE BEST I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW WHAT WE GOT GOING ON.

OKAY. IT'S NOT AFFECTING ANY OF OUR SERVICES TO OUR CITIZENS.

NO, MA'AM, NOT AT THIS POINT.

I KNOW WE GOT ONE PD VEHICLE.

WE DEFINITELY NEED TO GET OFF.

WHAT'S THAT? 20 UNIT? THE 18. THE 18 UNIT.

IT'S STARTING TO GET COSTLY FOR US, SO EVENTUALLY WE'D LIKE TO GET ONE THOSE.

ONCE MOVED OVER AND THEN THAT ONE REPLACED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY ONE.

AND I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK WITH HOPEFULLY NOT UP TO 45,000 ON THAT ONE RETROFIT RETROFITTING AN EXCEL THING.

WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE XLT ON THAT ONE.

JUST THE BASELINE EXPLORER FOR THAT ONE.

OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THE COST OF VEHICLES HAVE INCREASED, BUT THE COSTS, THE RESALE VALUE OF OUR EXISTING VEHICLES HAS ALSO INCREASED. SO DOES ONE OFFSET THE OTHER? I HAVEN'T SEEN A SCHEMATIC ON THAT YET FROM THEM.

I NEED TO GET WITH REPUBLIC ENTERPRISE.

YEAH. IT'S A WHOLE ROTATION HERE.

NO, BUT NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SCHEMATIC OF WHAT THE PRICING IS GOING FOR RIGHT NOW ON THOSE VEHICLES ON THE RESALE MARKET.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN LOOKING AT THAT.

BUT WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

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WE HAVE A PLAN OF ACTION.

WE HAVE A LAYOUT.

WE'RE WORKING ON THE VISION STATEMENT AND THE SURVEY QUESTIONS AND HAVE ANOTHER MEETING COMING UP TUESDAY.

NOW THAT WILL BE A LITTLE LATER IN THE AFTERNOON AND THEY'LL BLAST THAT OUT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WORKING ON THIS AND GET IT DONE.

VERY GOOD. YES, I SAW WHERE THE MONTHLY REPORTS THERE'S A LINK IN YOUR PACKET ON GOING TO THE MONTHLY REPORT.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THOSE? OKAY. THEN WE HAVE SOME ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS FOR FIRE, POLICE AND CITY STAFF.

FOR THE RECORD, AJ SIEBERT OF V.C.

THREE, INC.

CYPRESS CYBER SECURITY DONATED A HALF DOZEN COOKIES FROM TIFF'S TREATS VALUED AT $10.

PAUL LOPEZ AND THE RBA TAX SECTION DONATED ONE DOZEN COOKIES FROM TIFF'S TREATS VALUED AT $20.

SUE HARE [INAUDIBLE] DONATED SNACKS BAR VALUED AT $40.

DUBLIN ROAD ESTATES DONATED $225 TO THE PARKER POLICE AND $245 TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S FROM NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, AND IT WAS SUBMITTED BY KRYSTAL AND CHUCK PEARL.

PHIL AND JOANNE NADEAU DONATED $100 TO THE PARKER POLICE AND $100 TO THE PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

MIRIAM BACARDI DONATED ONE DOZEN BUNDT CAKES VALUED AT $23.

NINA COOK OF HOUSTON DONATED CHIPS VALUED AT $20.

THE WRIGHT FAMILY DONATED NOTHING BUNDT BUNDTINIS, VALUED AT $25.

AND FIRST UNITED BANK OF DURANT OKLAHOMA DONATED $500 TO PARKER FEST.

WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

WE WILL SOON NEED TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR SOMEONE TO DONATE TO HOW TO LOSE WEIGHT FROM ALL THESE COOKIES THAT WE SEEM TO BE GETTING.

THAT'S AWESOME, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT FOLKS.

ARE THERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO NOTE AT THIS TIME, AS YOU ALL KNOW, JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL IF YOU THINK

[7. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

OK. LASTLY, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO WE'RE ENDING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT THIS TIME AND WE'RE GOING TO A WORK SESSION ON COUNCIL

[8. COUNCIL TERM LENGTH]

OKAY. WE WHAT ARE YOU LAUGHING ? UNDER THE LAW, THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK CITIZENS ABOUT THE TERM OF SERVICE OF A PARTICULAR OFFICE. BACK IN 2013, WE LOOKED AT INCREASING BOTH THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL'S TERMS FROM TWO YEARS TO THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

AT THAT TIME IT WAS NOT FELT TO BE A GOOD THING.

WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND I ASK TREY TO DO SOME SOME LEGAL RESEARCH ON IT BECAUSE PEOPLE KEEP TELLING ME THEY'RE TIRED OF ELECTIONS AFTER ELECTION AFTER ELECTION BECAUSE THE WAY IT WORKS NOW, WE HAVE AN ELECTION EVERY YEAR AND PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE A BREAK.

SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BRING THIS UP AND LOOK AT IT AND TREY I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

I'M NOT SURE I SAY THAT UPDATE LANGUAGE WASN'T ON MY COMPUTER, BUT IT MUST BE THAT THAT MUST BE THE TV.

OKAY. SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW.

A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE LAW AND THE WORK SESSION IS BASICALLY A QUESTION OF IS THIS SOMETHING COUNCIL WANTS TO LOOK AT FOR THIS YEAR, OR DO YOU WANT TO

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BUT. SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW IS THAT UNDER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 22035.

MAYOR AND THE ALDERMEN OF A MUNICIPALITY ARE ELECTED FOR A TERM OF TWO YEARS UNLESS ONE IS LONGER ESTABLISHED UNDER THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION.

SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE'RE OPERATING UNDER NOW.

NO REASON FOR US TO DO ANYTHING IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO KEEP IT AT.

SO GO TO THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND ARTICLE 11, SECTION 11, IS THAT A GENERAL LAW CITY MAY PROVIDE BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE QUALIFIED VOTERS VOTING AT AN ELECTION CALLED FOR THAT PURPOSE FOR A LONGER TERM OF OFFICE THAN TWO YEARS FOR ITS OFFICERS, OR BOTH, BUT NOT TO EXCEED FOUR YEARS.

SO LAYMAN'S TERMS IS THAT COUNCIL COULD CALL AN ELECTION FOR THE VOTERS TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO EXTEND THE COUNCIL TERMS TO EITHER THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

THE TERMS COULD STILL BE STAGGERED, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, IN THE SENSE OF HAVING YOU COULD BE VOTED ON ONE YEAR, HALF OF YOU THE OTHER YEAR, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A YEAR OFF IF YOU WERE DOING THREE YEAR TERMS OR YOU WOULD HAVE TWO YEARS OFF, OR YOU COULD DO EVERY OTHER YEAR IF THERE WERE FOUR YEAR TERMS KIND OF A DEAL.

THEY CAN STILL BE STAGGERED, BUT WE CAN ONLY GO AS HIGH AS FOUR YEARS UNDER THE LAW.

SO THE EFFECTS OF CHANGING THE TERMS, IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THE TERMS, I MEAN, ALSO IN THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION IS THAT A MUNICIPALITY EXTENDING MUST ELECT ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF ITS GOVERNING BODY BY A MAJORITY VOTE.

AND THIS NOW WOULD THEN EXTEND TO VACANCIES.

RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVE A VACANCY, THAT VACANCY CAN BE APPOINTED.

IF WE WERE TO EXTEND THE TERM PAST TWO YEARS TO EITHER THREE YEARS OR FOUR YEARS, IF THERE NOW COMES UP A VACANCY, THAT VACANCY WOULD HAVE TO BE FILLED BY ELECTION, NOT BY APPOINTMENT. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.

THIS WAS ALSO THEN CONFIRMED BY A TEXAS THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION.

AND I PUT THE SIDE UP THERE, IF YOU CARED TO NOT SLEEP AT NIGHT AND YOU NEED SOMETHING TO PUT YOU OUT.

BUT SO THE FIRST IS THE FIRST SUBSECTION B IS OBVIOUSLY ALREADY IN PLACE, BUT THE SECOND WOULD BE THE CHANGE FROM WHAT YOU'RE OPERATING UNDER NOW.

SO THE IMPORTANT DATES FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION DATE IS MAY SIX, 2023.

THE LAST DATE TO CALL THAT ELECTION IS FEBRUARY 17TH OF 2023.

IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE AHEAD THIS TIME, YOU COULD GO AGAIN FOR NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 7TH ELECTION DATE WITH AN AUGUST 21ST CALLED DATE LAST CALL DATE FOR THAT ELECTION.

SO THAT IS MY OVERVIEW.

AND IT IS YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO WE CAN GO DEEPER IF COUNCIL HAS A DESIRE TO LOOK AT THAT THIS YEAR, OR WE COULD HOLD OFF A YEAR AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

BACK WHEN WE DID THIS IN 2012-13, WHENEVER WE WERE TOLD THAT IF WE WENT TO FOUR YEARS, YOU HAD TO HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE VOTE WHICH BEEN A RUN OFF.

IF THERE WASN'T, IF SOMEONE DIDN'T GET 50% OF THE VOTE, WHEREAS IF YOU KEPT IT AT THREE OR LESS, YOU WENT WITH THE PLURALITY, JUST A MAJORITY OF THE VOTE? OR DID I SAY THAT BACKWARDS? BECAUSE HONESTLY, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I'M NOT SURE I'D HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP.

WELL, THE THE DEAL IS IF, SAY, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE OR TWO OR THREE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR COUNCIL AND NEITHER GETS 50% OF THE VOTE, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RUNOFF WHERE IF YOU UNDER OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

IT'S JUST THE THE GREATER VOTE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GETTING INTO THE CHALLENGE THAT I SEE IS THAT IF WE HAVE EITHER THREE OR TWO POSITIONS OPEN AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK, THE NUMBERS DON'T WORK OUT. NO ONE WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO GET 50%.

RIGHT. YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE VOTE.

SO YEAH, YOU WOULD UNLESS YOU HAD YOU WOULD RUN INTO AN ISSUE IF YOU HAD THREE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR ONE PLACE.

WELL, IF YOU HAD IF YOU HAD TWO POSITIONS OPEN AND IT'D SAY FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE RUNNING, THEN IT'S A LOT HARDER FOR ANYBODY TO GET 50%.

BUT WE ARE THE MAJORITY RULE.

SO THERE WOULD BE NO PHYSICAL WAY BECAUSE WE'RE AT LARGE FOR MORE THAN ONE PERSON IN THAT LINE TO GET I MEAN, ONE PERSON COULD GET 50%, THE OTHER PERSON COULD GET 40 AND THEN TEN.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PARTY BASED NOT AN AT THAT LARGE VOTE, BECAUSE THAT LARGE THERE'S NO WAY FOR THE PARTIES TO GET THEM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT WARDED.

WE'RE NOT SET INTO WARDS OR DISTRICTS.

WELL, THE WHAT THEY TOLD US ABOUT BACK THEN WAS LIKE PISD.

PISD DOES NOT RUN BY PARTIES ALLEGEDLY, BUT EVERYBODY WHO GOT ELECTED EITHER HAD TO HAVE 50%

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SO IN OUR INSTANCE, THE THREE OF THEM COME UP AND THEY ALL RUN.

IT WOULD BE PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

EVEN IF ONLY ONE OTHER PERSON RAN WE'D HAVE FOUR PEOPLE RUNNING FOR THREE SEATS, IT WOULD BE PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR ALL THREE OF THEM TO GET 50% OF THE VOTE.

YEAH, AND THAT'S MY QUESTION TO YOU.

COULD WE STILL GO BY THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF VOTES RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO BY 50%? I'LL PUT THIS WITH AN ASTERISK.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE BECAUSE UNDER THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 2204 IS THAT TO BE ELECTED TO OFFICE OF A GENERAL LAW MUNICIPALITY, THE PERSON MUST RECEIVE MORE VOTES THAN OTHER PERSONS FOR THE OFFICE.

SO IT'S A IT'S SPECIFICALLY A PLURALITY UNDER THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE IF I FIND THAT TO BE DIFFERENT, I WILL CERTAINLY REPORT BACK.

THE THOUGHT THAT I HAVE ON IT IS LESS ON THE PERSON RUNNING, MORE ON STAFF, AND SPECIFICALLY PATTY, WHO AS SOON AS ONE ELECTION IS OVER, IS HAVING TO START INTO THE NEXT ONE.

AND IT TAKES A LOT OF STAFF TIME AND A LOT OF CITY COSTS THAT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE HOW MUCH IT COSTS THE CITY JUST TO RUN AN ELECTION EACH MAY. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT.

IT'S THE SAVINGS, I THINK, TO THE TO THE CITY AND THE LACK OF ONE YEAR OF OF AN ELECTION, BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY'S ELECTIONED OUT.

SO THE COST TO RUN IT I'M SORRY, THE COST TO RUN AN ELECTION IS ABOUT $15,000 A BALLPARK.

OH UNDER 10,000.

I THINK IT'S REALLY BASED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ALL HAVING ELECTIONS.

THEY SPREAD IT OUT AMONGST ALL.

I THINK IT'S BASED ON POPULATION ISN'T IT GRANT THAT'S HOW THEY BREAK THAT OUT FOR THE ELECTIONS.

WHEN WE DIDN'T, WE USED TO DO OUR OWN AND IT WAS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE.

I DO BELIEVE THEY DO PULL IT OUT THOUGH.

I THINK I REMEMBER LAST LAST TIME IT WAS ABOUT 10,000, SOMEWHERE IN THAT BALLPARK.

THAT SOUNDS. BUT WHAT I FIND A LITTLE ODD IS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE TO PUT OUT THE YOU KNOW, THE TIME AND EFFORT TO CAMPAIGN ARE WELL IN THE MONEY.

BUT, I MEAN, IN THIS REQUEST CAME FROM SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT A COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GO VOTE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I.

WELL, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I WOULD SAY THAT THE BENEFITS TO THIS IS IF I AM UNDERSTANDING IT RIGHT.

WE DON'T DECIDE ON THIS. WE DECIDE TO PUT IT OUT FOR VOTE FOR PEOPLE TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

SO THE RESIDENTS GET TO DECIDE ULTIMATELY IF THEY'RE TIRED OF ELECTIONS, BASICALLY.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE BENEFITS OF IT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE ALL JUST KIND OF BEEN ACCUSTOMED TO EVERY EVERY TWO YEARS.

THIS IS WHAT IT IS. BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS A BENEFIT TO LOOKING AT IT JUST FROM A COST SAVINGS PERSPECTIVE, A STAFF TIME PERSPECTIVE.

AND IF IT'S THE RESIDENTS APPETITE, IF WE'RE ALREADY HAVING AN ELECTION, WE COULD THROW IT ON A BALLOT AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

YEAH, AND THAT WAS WHY I PUT IT ON HERE IS FOR ONE, TRIED TO EDUCATE US A LITTLE BIT ON IT AND THEN DECIDE WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO, IF ANYTHING. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING BUT.

I DON'T HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, EXCEPT TO SAY THAT TWO YEARS DOES COME AROUND VERY QUICKLY.

AND THE THOUGHT OF TO ME, TWO YEARS YOU'RE A COUNCIL MEMBER IS BASICALLY JUST GETTING THEIR FEET WET.

AND TO HAVE A THREE YEAR TERM SEEMS TO MAKE MORE SENSE.

THE ABILITY TO HAVE A YEAR OFF WOULD MAKE, YOU KNOW, WOULD DEFINITELY BE NICE.

FROM FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE.

I DON'T UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'VE GOT A SENSE OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS BELIEVE IN THAT.

I THINK FOUR YEARS SEEMS TOO LONG, THOUGH, OF OF A TERM.

YEAH, I AGREE. YEAH. MY $0.02.

YEAH. WHAT GOT BACK TO ME FROM SEVERAL RESIDENTS IS THEY DON'T WANT TO VOTE EVERY YEAR, THEY'RE TIRED OF IT.

TWO, THEY THINK THAT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH MORE IF THERE WAS THREE YEARS BECAUSE THERE'S VERY LITTLE THAT ACTUALLY GETS DONE IN TWO YEARS BECAUSE IT'S A COMPLICATED WORLD AND IT'S A CAMPAIGN YEAR.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO WAIT ON THINGS.

AND I SEE IT AS, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER HALF OF THAT IS SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, NO, I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER TWO YEARS, BECAUSE IF YOU GET A BAD APPLE IN THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY TWO YEARS.

I MEAN, I DON'T I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH.

FOUR YEARS FOR A MUNICIPAL ELECTION SEEMS A LITTLE MUCH.

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AND AGAIN, $10,000 SAVINGS, YOU KNOW, EVERY EVERY THIRD YEARS.

IT'S SOMETHING. RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT AND PATTY GETS A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CONSIDERING THIS AS A A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, I DON'T KNOW THE RESIDENTS FEELING EITHER.

BUT THE ELECTION WOULD TELL US WHETHER THEY WANT IT OR THEY DON'T.

AND I MEAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

IT'S SOMETHING THE RESIDENTS ASK FOR.

I DON'T SEE A HARM IN PUTTING IT ON A BALLOT IF WE'RE ALREADY I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAVE ELECTIONS LINED UP, SO WE JUST PUT IT ON THE BALLOT FOR THE ELECTIONS.

I THINK I AGREE ALSO.

I MEAN, IT'S IT'S UP TO THEIR APPETITE AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

I MEAN, I'VE HEARD THAT IN TALKING TO MANY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WE JUST VOTED LAST YEAR.

YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THING I'VE HEARD THAT QUITE A BIT.

BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, IT'S IT'S UP TO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, YOU KNOW? AND I THINK THAT, AGAIN, FOUR YEARS IS TOO MUCH.

I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A REALLY BIG COMMITMENT, NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, I THINK FOR A SMALL MUNICIPALITY, WE DON'T AS LONG.

OKAY, SO IF I'M HEARING CORRECTLY, Y'ALL WANT TO PUT IT ON AN AGENDA FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN GO FROM THERE.

THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. THEY CAN VOTE YAY OR NAY AND AGREE.

WELL, IF THEY SAY NO, WE'RE AT THE SAME POSITION.

IF THEY SAY YES, THAT WAS THEIR APPETITE.

SO THEN I'M MUCH HAPPIER KNOWING THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DECIDE BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE UP TO THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE.

YEAH. THE ONLY THING WE'RE DECIDING IS TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT OR NOT AND HOW TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.

THAT RIGHT? I'M SORRY. HAVE OTHER CITIES GONE THROUGH THE SAME KIND OF ISSUE? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S A NEW TREND THAT'S COMING UP, OR IS THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT CITIES HAVE THREE YEAR TERMS. WHEN WHEN SENATE BILL 100 CAME OUT, WHATEVER YEAR, THAT WAS ALMOST EVERY CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEY ALL CONSIDERED IT.

SOME WENT FOR IT, SOME DIDN'T.

SOME CITIES CHANGED FROM 2 TO 3.

SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS WENT TO FOUR.

I DON'T THINK ANY CITY DID THAT.

I REMEMBER, BUT I'M GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, SO I DON'T KNOW.

BUT THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE FIRST ALLOWED TO MAKE THE CONSIDERATIONS, AS FAR AS I KNOW.

AND IT'S JUST NEVER COME UP SINCE THEN.

AND LIKE I SAID, SOME CITIZENS STARTED TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT.

ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS MADE A REQUEST THAT WE HOLD A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS IT, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND SO IF I'M IF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS HAVE THIS PUT ON AN AGENDA TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND IF SO, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, I WOULD ADD THAT WE MIGHT GET A BUNCH OF PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT DAY THAT SAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AND THAT'LL MAKE THE DECISION FOR US OR PEOPLE MAY NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE ANYTHING AND THEN THEY DECIDE AT THE NEXT ELECTION.

THAT'S RIGHT. OR THEY MIGHT SAY, IS THIS ABOUT TERM LIMITS OR TERM LENGTHS? THAT'S RIGHT. AND WE'LL GET HINTS THAT WAY, TOO.

SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION THAT MAYBE TREY, YOU CAN ANSWER.

HOW WOULD IF SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT PASSED? HOW WOULD IT AFFECT THE EXISTING COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE EITHER JUST RECENTLY GOT ELECTED OR ARE COMING UP FOR ELECTION? IT WOULDN'T AFFECT ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON IT.

IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT FOR THE NEXT ELECTION, LIKE AFTER IT'S APPROVED.

SO THEY'D BE GRANDFATHERED INTO THEIR TWO YEAR, TWO YEAR TERMS UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY HOLD AN ELECTION UNDER THE THREE YEAR DECISION.

YEAH. SO PEOPLE THAT LET'S SAY IT WAS ON THE MAY BALLOT, PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE MAY BALLOT WOULD BE RUNNING FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. 3 TO 3 YEAR IF IT GOT PASSED, RIGHT.

NO, NO, NO, NO. IT WOULD STILL BE A TWO YEAR BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE IN EFFECT UNTIL ONE.

AND AND THEN BUT BUT THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T UP FOR ELECTION REELECTION THAT YEAR, WOULD THEY SERVE THREE YEARS OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO BE REELECTED AFTER TWO YEARS? NO. IF YOU'RE ALREADY ON IT, IT'S TWO YEARS.

IF YOU'RE ALREADY IF YOU'RE ALREADY ON IT, IT WOULD BE TWO YEARS.

IF THAT GETS PASSED AT THE NEXT ELECTION, IT WOULD BE AN ELECTION FOR A THREE YEAR TERM.

AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THE LAST TWO YEAR GROUP WOULD ROLL OFF AND YOU WOULD HAVE THE SECOND ONE FOR THE THREE YEARS.

SO OUR IN OUR CASE, IF WE WERE LOOKING AT IT IN OUR TERM, SO SO THE THREE OF US ARE ON THAT TERM AND WHOEVER WOULD WANT TO RUN, WE WOULD STILL BE ONLY ON FOR TWO

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THEN THEN FOUR FOR TERRI AND MICHAEL AND THE CONSTITUENTS WOULD WANT TO RUN.

WOULD THEY RUN? THEY WOULD BE GOING FOR A THREE YEAR TERM AT THAT POINT.

SO IT JUST REALLY WOULDN'T BE IMPLEMENTED FOR TWO YEARS IF IT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE MAY BALLOT.

ANYTHING ELSE? OK PATTY, WOULD YOU PLEASE PUT THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR US? AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HELP WORD THAT SO THAT WE GET IT RIGHT.

OK IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY NOT HEARING ANYTHING ELSE? WE ARE ADJOURNED.

IT IS 8:20 P.M..

GET OUT OF HERE. BE SAFE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.