Apr 19, 2022 City Council

JUST WE HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT IT DOES WHEN YOU TURN THE LIGHTS ON OR SITTING THERE FOR A FEW MINUTES.

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[CALL TO ORDER]

LET ME FINISH THIS UP. I'LL BE ON THE WAY.

YEAH, JUST. BUT I MEAN.

I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK AT IT ADMIN.

YOU KNOW, THE ADMIN VEHICLE, CHIEF HAS VOLUNTEERED.

ON PAPER THOUGH, ON PAPER, THE ONLY ELECTRIC VEHICLE THAT CAN MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE IS A TESLA MODEL Y OR THREE STANDARD RANGE ON THE PV SIDE OF THINGS, ON PAPER.

NOW THAT'S WHAT'S ON PAPER, WHAT'S THE REALITY? THOSE CAN BE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.

THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE FOR YOU, BECAUSE IN LUKE BROUGHT IT UP, YOU GOT THIS COOL SYSTEM THAT YOU TYPE IN ALL THE VEHICLES.

I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE USING EPA STANDARDS.

YES. ON DETERMINING FUEL EFFICIENCY..

FOR LIKE CURRENT.. VEHICLES.

CURRENT VEHICLES, SO IT TAKES A IT TAKES A BLEND OF CITY AND HIGHWAY MILEAGE.

RIGHT. BASED ON [INAUDIBLE] BASED ON YOUR YOUR CITY AND WHAT WE THINK.

BUT IS THIS USING EPA NUMBERS? IT'S USING THE MANUFACTURER'S REPORTED CITY AND HIGHWAY MILEAGE.

AND WE PUT A DEGRADATION FACTOR IN THERE.

SO IT KIND OF BRINGS YOU BACK VEHICLES.

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ENDS UP ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE IDLING SOMEWHERE, YOU'RE USING THE BATTERY CHARGE.

SO YOU START OUT WITH 200 AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE AT 150 AND YOU JUST SAT IN ONE PLACE, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN MOVED.

I THINK THOSE ARE DOWNHILL WITH NO CLIMATE CONTROL ON..

TEXAS SUMMERS AND IT'S IT'S NOT REALLY A FEASIBLE I MEAN FOR A POLICE YEAH WE ACTUALLY RESPOND.

I ACTUALLY TALKED TO NICK ABOUT THE FORD LIGHTNINGS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE LIGHTNINGS BACK IN THE EARLY 2000S THE REAL FAST ONES THEY'VE RE MARKETED I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S OUT THERE.

THESE ARE PRETTY FAST THOUGH.

THEY WERE BUT THEY DON'T OFFER THE SAME GOVERNMENT REBATES RIGHT NOW ON THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE SO FAR BACK ORDERED FOR THAT PURPOSE.

AND THEN I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF SPECIAL THINGS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET ON BECAUSE THEY'RE SO LIGHT.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL TOW PACKAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO THERE IS SOME FACTORS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT.

BUT I THINK WITH THE NUMBER YOU PULLED UP FOR, JUST ONE WAS 40,000.

FORTY SOME ODD THOUSAND DOLLARS. I MEAN, IT'S THEY RUN ABOUT $10,000 MORE.

THAT WAS THE POINT, TOO, IS THE PRICE POINT ISN'T MUCH HIGHER.

WELL, YEAH. AND I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT WORKSHOP WHEN COUNCIL DOES, BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME VEHICLES THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED THAT IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO CONSIDER THAN OTHERS IN THIS WORLD AS FAR AS WHAT THOSE VEHICLES ARE CAPABLE OF AND WHAT'S COMING OUT, THE CHEVY SILVERADO/AVALANCHE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE AVALANCHE IS GOING TO COME OUT NEXT SUMMER THEY SAY. THE TESLA CYBER TRUCK IS GOING TO COME OUT TWO YEARS AGO.

SO WE'VE SEEN HOW THAT RUNS.

FORD LIGHTNINGS ARE RUNNING BEHIND BECAUSE THERE'S A LITHIUM SHORTAGE.

RIVIAN'S OUT SO I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE COME BACK TO COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THAT GOING FORWARD THAT EVEN THOUGH IT COSTS MORE, THIS IS AN INVESTMENT THE CITY WANTS TO MAKE.

AND IF IT MAKES SENSE.

LIKE I'M GOING TO PICK ON GARY'S GUYS, JUST TWO OF THEM.

LIKE IF IT MAKES SENSE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO GO LIKE TO A HYBRID FORD ESCAPE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION OR SAME THING WITH BUILDING INSPECTIONS.

THOSE ARE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NEEDED A FULL TRUCK, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TRUCKS HERE THAT THEY CAN HOP IN AND USE ALSO.

SO THOSE ARE OPTIONS WE WOULD LOOK AT.

YEAH, TWO DIFFERENT MOTIVATIONS.

ONE, YOU HAVE THE FINANCIAL MOTIVATIONS, THEN TWO, YOU HAVE THE THE CLEAN CITY MOTIVATIONS, I GUESS YOU'D SAY BEHIND, HEY, WE WANT TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF OUR ENVIRONMENT TYPE MOTIVATIONS.

WE TAKE BOTH THOSE THINGS.

DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME, I'M 100% ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE DOLLAR AT THE END OF THE DAY.

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AND SO I THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM THAT STANDPOINT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HEDGING OUR BETS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

BUT I THINK THAT THAT COVERS MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE MOST OF THESE OTHERS, I THINK WE'VE ANSWERED IN OTHER PLACES SO . ANY FURTHER? GO AHEAD.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THIS.

SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP REGARDING THE AGREEMENT AND WHAT IS MISSING AND WHAT NEED WHAT SHOULD BE CHANGED, CAN WE MAKE THOSE CHANGES? I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I.

I THINK WE'VE MADE ALL THE CHANGES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MADE SOME OF THEM WE COULD MAKE SOME WE COULDN'T.

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WE MIGHT COME BACK AND AND MAKE THEM POTENTIALLY.

I JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THAT LANGUAGE IS [INAUDIBLE] AND WE'D WE JUST REQUEST THAT LANGUAGE FROM Y'ALL AND THEN WE WOULD EVALUATE WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE OR NOT.

CHIEF, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT CARTER.

SO RIGHT NOW, I OWN THE POLICE RADIO.

I OWN THE CAMERA, I OWN THE RADAR.

WHEN YOU GIVE ME A NEW CAR AND I PUT THOSE THINGS IN THAT CAR, WHO OWNS THOSE THREE ITEMS? YOU DO. I MEAN, REALISTICALLY, WE WE DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT EQUIPMENT.

IT HAS NO VIABLE HAS NO VALUE TO US AS A COMPANY.

AND THE ONLY TIME THIS THESE THINGS COME UP IS REALLY IN EVEN JUST A VERY LONG TIME IN DEFAULT SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO REPO VEHICLES FROM THE CITY. AND I TOTALLY GET THAT.

BUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, CHIEF, IS BASED ON THE CONTRACT, IT TECHNICALLY BELONGS TO HIM, NOT HIM, BUT ENTERPRISE, AS SOON AS WE MAKE ALTERATIONS TO THE VEHICLE.

SO WHEN WE I WILL HAVE TO REPLACE THE BOX, THE CONTROLLERS, ALL THAT I WILL CARE ABOUT.

BUT THOSE THREE ITEMS I CARE ABOUT.

SO IN THE SCHEDULE FOR WHEN WE REPLACE ONE, CAN WE RIDE THAT THE RADIO, CAMERA AND RADAR BELONGS TO THE CITY DEPARTMENT? SO.. I'VE NEVER SEEN IT.

I DO. I GUESS WE'D PROBABLY FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT.

THERE'S NOWHERE IN THE SCHEDULE NECESSARILY NOTATE THAT.

I MEAN, PER SE THAT I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE RIDER OF SOME SORT.

SO I DON'T REALLY I CAN'T REALLY SAY I'LL GO TO YOU TREY.

AM I TOTALLY OUT OF LEFT FIELD HERE WITH I MEAN, I GET THAT IT NEVER HAPPENS.

AND I GET MURPHY'S LAW DOES TEND TO APPLY IN THE CITY OF PARKER.

MY CONCERN IS I GET WHAT IT SAYS.

I ALSO KNOW WITH THE ADVANCEMENTS EVEN IN LIGHT AND I UNDERSTAND, CHIEF, BUT MONEY COMES DOWN TO IT.

AND YOU KNOW, WAYLON IS MAKING LED LIGHT BARS NOW THAT THEY EXPECT TO LAST FOR 20 YEARS AND BE UNIVERSAL.

WILL THEY? WHO KNOWS? BUT IN THE IDEAS THAT IF WE GOT A 2015 TAHOE OR 2020, THAT SAME LIGHT BAR ACTUALLY WOULD FIT BOTH VEHICLES.

WE COULD SALVAGE THAT IN AN OFFSET AND MAKE IT EVEN BETTER PROGRAM FOR THEM BECAUSE WE'RE SAVING MORE.

AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY THAT TECHNICALLY THAT LIGHT BAR WOULD BELONG TO THEM? I YOU ARE READING IT CORRECTLY.

YES. AND THIS IS JUST A BUSINESS POINT OF THE OF THE CONTRACT THAT HASN'T BEEN RAISED PRIOR TO NOW.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

AND WHEN WE GIVE IT BACK TO THEM, THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE WITH IT.

IF THAT'S A BUSINESS TERM THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ATTEMPT TO NEGOTIATE DIFFERENTLY, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE CONTRACT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN.

BUT I ALSO I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IF, IF IT ONLY APPLIES A DEFAULT WHEN WE CHANGE THE CARS OUT, THEY WILL COME GET THE OLD CAR AND TAKE THAT EQUIPMENT OUT AND PUT IT IN THE NEW CAR.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THAT EQUIPMENT GOES AWAY.

IT DOESN'T SAY DEFAULT THE IT SAYS WHEN THEY TURN IT IN AND IT BELONGS TO THEM.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT HE'S SAYING THAT'S ONLY A DEFAULT SITUATION.

YEAH, THAT'D BE WHEN WE DO A TRANSFER OF THE VEHICLE, THAT EQUIPMENT IS TRANSFERRED AND THEN WE GET TO DETERMINE WHAT IS REPLACED.

AS FAR AS THE BOX, IF IT STILL FITS, IT GOES IN A LOT OF OUR INSTRUMENTS.

IT GOES IN AND IT STILL WORKS, IT GOES IN.

WE GET TO DO ALL THAT.

SO I DON'T REALLY SEE IT AS THE ISSUE.

I THINK THE ONE PLACE THAT WOULD NOTE VERY EXPENSIVE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, THEY MAY NOT HAVE VALUE TO YOU, BUT YOU CAN TURN OVER 7 TO 9000 INDIVIDUAL PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.

YEAH, WELL, MY CONCERN IS AND I DON'T WANT TO KEEP BEATING THIS, BUT MY CONCERN IS, IS I GET IT IN NICK IS BEING 100% HONEST WITH US HERE AND GIVING US ALL OF THIS INFORMATION.

THE NEXT GUY MAY READ IT TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

[3. CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION, AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2022-688 ON THE 2021-2022 INVESTMENT POLICY. [This item was originally on the December 7, 2021, City Council agenda.]]

AND THIS AGREEMENT, THIS AGREEMENT IS ALL INCLUSIVE AND YADDA, YADDA, YADDA, WHICH IS EVERY CONTRACT THAT'S EVER BEEN WRITTEN BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S IN THE OTHER TWO DOCUMENTS I'M LOOKING AT HERE FROM THEM, SO I'M ASSUMING IT'S IN THAT ONE TOO.

I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.

THAT'S MY CONCERN.

SO I WOULD THINK TO ME THE DEPARTMENTS MAY NOT BE CONCERNED, BUT I CAN SEE ISSUES IN THE FUTURE.

YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE GOOSENECK HITCHES, IF WE HAVE STUFF LIKE THAT THAT SHOULD BELONG TO THE CITY, IF WE PAY FOR IT TO BE ABLE TO USE IT ON A FUTURE VEHICLE, OUR BUDGET IS SLIM ENOUGH WHEN IT COMES TO THIS THAT I THINK TO ME THAT'S THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR TO MAKE SURE WE CAN INCLUDE IN.

I GET IT'S A BUSINESS TERMINOLOGY THAT'S IN HERE, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.

AND THOUGH HE'S SAYING THAT IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE, IT HASN'T UNTIL IT HAS UNTIL WAYLON HAS A SHORTAGE ON LIGHT BARS AND THEY REALIZE, WELL, WE CAN TAKE THAT OR A SHORTAGE ON RADIOS.

THEN THEY REALIZE, OH.

UNIVERSAL. WE CAN USE THAT FOR ANOTHER CITY.

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SO YOU WILL SEND THE VEHICLE TO OUR OUTFITTER, CORRECT? WE DON'T, WE DON'T OWN [INAUDIBLE] I KNOW THAT, BUT I THOUGHT YOU CONTRACTED..

WITH THE WHOEVER Y'ALL DECIDE TO USE.

THERE IS A SENTENCE IN SECTION EIGHT, MIDDLE OF THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH.

IT TALKS ABOUT ANY ALTERATIONS, ADDITIONS TO REPLACEMENT PARTS OR IMPROVEMENTS TO A VEHICLE WILL BECOME AND REMAIN THE PROPERTY OF LESSOR AND WILL RETURN WITH SUCH VEHICLE UPON VEHICLES RETURN PURSUANT TO SECTION FOUR.

NOTWITHSTANDING THE FOREGOING, SO LONG AS NO EVENT OF DEFAULT HAS OCCURRED OR IS CONTINUING, LESSEE SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE ANY ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT INSTALLED BY LESSEE ON A VEHICLE PRIOR TO RETURNING SUCH VEHICLE TO LESSOR UNDER SECTION FOUR.

BUT IF MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE CONTRACT WITH OUTFITTERS THAT OUTFITTED THE VEHICLES THAT THEY'RE USING ARE WELL YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE ONE.

YOUR CONTRACT WITH THE SAME PEOPLE WE DO.

I GET THAT. BUT I'M SAYING THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT AS YOUR MAINTENANCE PLAN IS, I HAVE TO GO TO YOUR PLACES, NOT NOT ENTERPRISES, BUT THE ONES THAT YOU ARE PARTNERED WITH.

IT'S DIFFERENT HERE. I MEAN, OUR GUYS CAN GO TO TAKE FIVE.

THEY CAN GO TO WAL MART, WHICH IS THOSE ARE CONTRACTED.

THOSE ARE THE SAME JOBS. YEAH.

I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. TO SOME DEGREE, YEAH.

AS LONG AS YOU FEEL LIKE THAT GIVES US ENOUGH PROTECTION IN WHICH TO MOVE THESE THINGS.

ESPECIALLY FOR THE EQUIPMENT CHIEF IS TALKING ABOUT.

YES, BECAUSE I'M NOT TO MUDDY ANYTHING UP HERE, BECAUSE WE YOU KNOW, LIKE IF WE TAKE IT TO THE OUTFITTER AND IT'S GOT ALL THE THAT'S ALL AMORTIZED WITHIN THE PAYMENT BECAUSE MOST IT DEPENDS ON JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW WE BREAK UP THE AMORTIZATION.

CAN YOU GO OVER EQUIPMENT? IS ANY EQUIPMENT THAT IS TOTAL OUTFITTING COSTS UNDER $5,000.

WE AMORTIZE 100% OF IT IN EQUIPMENT.

TOTAL AFTERMARKET EQUIPMENT COST BETWEEN 5000 AND 10000.

WE AMORTIZE 75% OF IT INTO LEASED WHEN WE BUILD 25% OF IT UP FRONT AND ANY AFTERMARKET EQUIPMENT, TOTAL COST OF OUTFITTING SOME SUPPLIES, MOSTLY A PV FOR THE MOST PART ABOVE $10,000.

WE CAPITALIZED HALF OF IT INTO LEASE, THE OTHER HALF WE BUILD UPFRONT.

AND THAT'S WHY IN THE ANALYSIS YOU SEE THAT UPFRONT EQUIPMENT COST SECTION IN THERE.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF.

WELL THAT MUDDIED IT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE NOW I HAVE THE QUESTION FOR TREY THAT IF THEY'RE AMORTIZING IN THE EQUIPMENT, DOES THAT STILL CONSTITUTE THAT? WE'RE THE ONES WHO MADE THE ALTERATIONS.

THAT WOULD BE OUR IT WOULD BE OUR VEHICLE AND OUR EQUIPMENT IF WE'RE PAYING FOR IT, IN MY OPINION.

BUT YEAH, WE PAY FOR IT OVER THE LEASE THAT GOES TO THEM THROUGH THEIR PROGRAM.

DOES THAT STILL PROVIDE US, DO YOU BELIEVE, ENOUGH PROTECTION IN THAT RESPECT? I THINK SO, BECAUSE UNDER SECTION FOUR IS THE USE AND SURRENDER OF VEHICLES IS BASICALLY IF YOU'RE USING THE VEHICLE IMPROPERLY, THEN THAT'S A DEFAULT UNDER THE THING.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT PARAGRAPH, IT'S, I THINK PART OF WHERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT OF AT THE EXPIRATION OR EARLY OR TERMINATION OF THIS AGREEMENT OR UPON DEMAND BY LESSOR OR MADE PURSUANT TO SECTION 14, WHICH IS THE DEFAULT PARAGRAPH, LESSEE SHALL RETURN THE VEHICLE AT SUCH PLACE WHERE IT WILL MEANS THAT IS OVER IS POINTING TO SPECIFICALLY A BREACH SITUATION OR A IMPROPER USE BECAUSE THIS AGREEMENT ITSELF ISN'T TERMINATING WHEN WE'RE CHANGING VEHICLES OUT.

THIS AGREEMENT IS IS A MASTER LEASE.

AND THE SCHEDULES OF TURNING THINGS IN BY AGREEMENT UNDER THE SCHEDULES IS IS ITS OWN KIND OF DEAL WITH ENTERPRISE THAT COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE DECISIONS ON.

AS THOSE VEHICLES COME UP, THE MASTER EQUITY LEASE IS GOING TO REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL WE DECIDE TO TERMINATE IT.

IF WE DECIDE TO OR IF WE'RE IN BREACH AND THEY TERMINATE THE LEASE, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE VEHICLES WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT IN THERE.

SO I WAS ACTUALLY REFERRING TO EIGHT, WHICH DOESN'T REFER TO THAT.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S ONE OF THE TIMES IN WHICH THEY TALK ABOUT THE EXPENSE.

THERE'S ALSO A SURRENDER VEHICLE AT THE TERM THAT SAID, I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

IF THERE'S ANY ALTERATIONS, ADDITIONS, REPLACEMENT PARTS OR IMPROVEMENTS TO A VEHICLE WILL BECOME AND REMAIN THE PROPERTY OF THE LESSOR WILL BE RETURNED WITH THE VEHICLE UPON SUCH VEHICLES RETURN PURSUANT TO SECTION FOUR, WHICH I GET THAT THAT'S THE SURRENDER OF THE VEHICLE, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S TALKING ABOUT.

THEY'RE NOT JUST ON 14.

AND THEN I GET WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE ANY ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT INSTALLED BY US.

BUT MY CONCERN IS IF WE CONTRACT WITH A CERTAIN VENDOR TO PUT SOMETHING IN AND THEY USE THAT SAME VENDOR AND THEY'RE PAYING IT, DOES THAT STILL CONSTITUTE AS US BEING THE ONES TO MAKE THAT ALTERATION? I DON'T, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY EQUIPMENT THAT IS INSTALLED IN THAT VEHICLE THAT THE CITY OF PARKER PAYS FOR, THAT WE GET TO KEEP IF WE IF WE SO CHOOSE AT THE END OF

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IF WE HAVE TO BUY DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE AND YELLOW LIGHTS, THAT'S GOING TO ADD UP EVERY YEAR.

BUT IF WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE SAME ONES EVERY TIME, THAT SAVES US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.

SO MY QUESTION IS, CAN WE MAKE THOSE ALTERATIONS AFTER WE RECEIVE THE VEHICLE AND WOULD THAT ALLEVIATE? AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO AMORTIZE IT INTO THE LEASE AND THEN IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT WE DO.

YOU CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

NOW, I HAVE LIKE WHEN I'VE BUILT A BUDGET LIKE THIS, SANS LIKE THE RADIOS AND ALL THE OTHER AND THE RADIOS, RADARS AND CAMERAS.

I BUDGET FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THAT EQUIPMENT EVERY TIME WE TURN OVER THE VEHICLES BECAUSE I NEED, I CANNOT RUN BY THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE CAN REUSE IT.

I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REUSE IT BECAUSE IF I ASSUMED WE COULD REUSE IT AND WE CAN'T, THAT BUSTED THE BUDGET WIDE OPEN REALLY VERY QUICKLY.

SO IF WE CAN REUSE IT, THAT'S QUOTE UNQUOTE GRAVY INTO THE BUDGET, SO TO SPEAK.

JUST FROM THAT STANDPOINT OF IT, YOU BUDGET IT, BUT IT LOOKS EVEN BETTER IF YOU DO THIS AND IT DOESN'T HAVE COUNCIL YELLING AT YOU A YEAR FROM NOW GOING, WHY DIDN'T WE SAY WHAT IT'S AT. IN THAT INSTANCE, WE WOULD BE COMING TO YOU GO, WOW, WE SAVED MORE THAN YOU SAID.

THAT'S EVEN BETTER. I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

YEAH, FOR SURE. I AGREE 100% THERE.

SO IN TERMS OF IF WE CAN TRANSFER, WE JUST KNOW IF WE CAN TRANSFER, WILL TRANSFER.

IF WE CAN'T TRANSFER, WE WON'T TRANSFER THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK.

I MEAN, IF THAT ALLEVIATES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THAT [INAUDIBLE] THAT KIND OF SECURES MY CONCERN, I'D WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT IT.

YEAH. THAT WOULD DO IT. YEAH.

I DON'T, I DON'T, I THINK THOUGH IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY SAY IN THERE ANYTHING IN THAT PARAGRAPH IN REGARDS TO OWNERSHIP RELATED TO THE AMORTIZATION HAS NOTHING IN THAT SECTION THAT'S TALKING ABOUT THOUGH.

SO BUT YOU CAN DO IT HOWEVER YOU WANT.

WE WOULD MUCH RATHER Y'ALL PAY FOR IT UP FRONT.

BY THE WAY, FROM A RISK STANDPOINT, IF I'M BEING IF I'M BEING QUITE FRANK ABOUT IT FROM A LENDING BECAUSE WE'RE ENTERPRISES ALSO LENDS THE MONEY SO WE'RE IF WE DON'T HAVE TO IT'S A BETTER OFFER FOR US AS WELL.

SO BUT WE'LL DO HOW YOU WANT US TO.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS COUNCIL? WELL, THAT BRINGS UP A QUESTION AS TO THE COST OF THE VEHICLES.

WHEN YOU, WHEN THESE PROJECTED COSTS WERE PUT TOGETHER, DID YOU INCLUDE ANY OF THE ADD ONS THAT EVERYTHING THAT? I WENT THROUGH THE FLEET VEHICLE BY VEHICLE AND WE PUT WE ASSIGN COSTS TO THE OUTFITTING FOR EVERYTHING, EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON OUR OWN AND THAT WOULD BE THEN REMOVED, CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. WELL, I'D HAVE TO BUDGET IT FROM A UPFRONT CAPITAL STANDPOINT AND NEED TO BE IN THE BUDGET IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT ON YOUR OWN EVEN SO.

DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE? [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN HAVING TO GO OUT AND BUY THE COMPONENTS OURSELVES.

[INAUDIBLE] SO UNDER THE SCHEDULE WE'D HAVE AN UPFRONT CAPITAL PORTION AND IN THE PORTION THAT'S BEING AMORTIZED OUT.

SO LET'S SAY, SAY WE BOUGHT A POLICE VEHICLE, WE PAID 35,000 BUCKS FOR THAT POLICE VEHICLE AND WE SPENT 20,000 ON OUTFITTING THE EQUIPMENT.

BUT WHEN YOU TAKE AT THE TIME YOU TAKE DELIVERY OF THAT VEHICLE AND THAT FIRST MONTH, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE LEASE PAYMENT FOR THE VEHICLE COME UP AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN INVOICE FOR THE ACTUAL UPFRONT EQUIPMENT.

SO YOU HAVE. SO IF THAT LEASE PAYMENT WAS 700 BUCKS, FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, YOU'D SEE THAT FIRST INVOICE WOULD BE 700 PLUS $20,000 FOR THAT EQUIPMENT UPFRONT.

AND SO THEN YOU'D HAVE TO WE HAVE TO WE NEED TO BE ALL COUNT FOR IT IN THE BUDGET IN ORDER TO BECAUSE THE MONEY'S GOT TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE, OBVIOUSLY.

SO WE WANT TO BE ALL ACCOUNT FOR IT AND THAT THE CITY WOULD BE REIMBURSING ENTERPRISE FOR THAT.

AND NICK, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT HAVING THAT BUDGET AHEAD OF TIME, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT, THAT WOULD ALL BE ROLLED INTO THAT, CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. WE HAD A TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERYTHING BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU'RE HIRING US, YOU'RE HIRING US TO MANAGE THE FLEET.

SO OUR JOB IS TO IS TO PUT LONG TERM PROJECTIONS IN PLACE AND LOOK AT YEAR OR YEAR BUDGET.

BUT IF WE CAN DELIVER THE VEHICLE COMPLETELY OUTFITTED, BUT THEN YOU'RE LOSING OUT ON HALF THE PART OF THE BENEFIT OF HIRING US IS TO COORDINATE ALL THAT.

AND NOW THE CITY IS RUNNING VEHICLES ALL OVER CREATION TO HAVE THOSE VEHICLES OUTFITTED.

SO HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH US BUYING THE ADD ONS AND THEN OWNING THEM? IF YOU'RE I'M NOT FOLLOWING I GUESS IF YOU WERE IF YOU'RE DELIVERING A COMPLETED VEHICLE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEN WE

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I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE.. [INAUDIBLE] WHETHER WE AMORTIZE THEM OR DON'T AMORTIZE THEM, UNLESS YOU'RE IN DEFAULT, YOU HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THOSE ADD ONS.

THE AGREEMENT HAS DOESN'T REALLY SPECIFY THAT I THINK THOSE ADD ONS ACTUALLY GET DONE WITH WITH IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE.

BUT HE'S TALKING ABOUT AS THE PAYMENT FOR WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED IS GOING TO BE ROLLED INTO THE OVERALL PAYMENT.

SO IF YOU HAVE TO BUY NEW EQUIPMENT TO OUTFIT IT, THAT 35,000 VEHICLE IS NOW GOING TO BE 55,000.

IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER VEHICLE, THEY DELIVER A RAW 35,000.

BUT WE HAD EQUIPMENT WHEN IT GOES TO THE OUTFITTING OUTFIT, THEY PUT OUR EQUIPMENT ON THERE AND THEN THAT ONE WOULD BE A AMORTIZATION FOR THE LEASE, NOT THERE WOULD BE NO AMORTIZATION. IT WOULD ONLY BE THE LEASE.

AM I CORRECT? YEAH.

YOU'RE YOU'RE ARTICULATING CORRECTLY AND THAT IS ASSUMING THAT WE GET TO KEEP IT.

AND IF WE ROLL IT INTO THE LEASE THAT WE OWNED THAT EQUIPMENT, GET ALL OF THOSE UNDERSTANDINGS.

I THINK THERE'S SOME SOME GRAY AREA.

THE BUT IF OUR COUNSELOR IF OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS COMFORTABLE WITH IT, THEN I ALSO I MEAN, I'M MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT IDEA.

THE OTHER THING THAT I DID WANT TO ADD IS I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR YOUR FLEET ANALYSIS.

THIS WAS MY LAST MARK.

LIKE I SAID, IT DIDN'T SAVE THEM ALL IN THE CORNER FOR SOME REASON.

YEAH. ESTIMATED CURRENT FLEET EQUITY IS BASED ON THE CURRENT FLEET SIDE UNSEEN AND CAN BE ADJUSTED AFTER A PHYSICAL INSPECTION.

OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE NOT WALKED OUT AND INSPECTED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR VEHICLES.

ONE QUESTION THAT I HAD FOR YOU, WAS THIS A CONSERVATIVE OR IS THIS EXTREMELY GOING ON TO, YOU KNOW, DOING EXCELLENT CONDITION FOR EVERYTHING? BECAUSE. NO, WELL, HERE'S HOW HERE'S HOW WE BASE VALUES ON.

WE HAVE A WHOLE TEAM. THEIR WHOLE JOB IS JUST A REMARKETING OF VEHICLES.

SO I SEND IT OUT TO OUR REMARKETING TEAM AND THEY EVALUATE THE VEHICLES BASED ON WHOLESALE VALUE OF THOSE VEHICLES, NOT KBB, WHICH ISN'T IT HAS NO IT'S NO BASIS IN REALITY WHATSOEVER.

ZILLA. [INAUDIBLE] SO WE SELL EVERYTHING ALL BLACK BOOK.

SO BLACK BOOK IS ACTUAL, REAL VEHICLE PERFORMANCE IN THE MARKETPLACE.

AND THEN WE ALSO BACK OFF FOR CONDITION BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH CITIES THAT WE THAT WE WORK WITH AND THEN WE USE TO BACK OFF A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM THERE TO PUT INTO AN ANALYSIS LIKE THIS, BECAUSE WE GOT TO BE ABLE TO HIT THESE NUMBERS.

AND I CAN GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES.

I WAS LIKE LAST WEEK, TWO WEEKS AGO, AS WOULD THE CITY OF ALVARADO, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR CLIENTS.

AND WE LOOKED AT THE, THE RESALE PERFORMANCE FROM THREE YEARS AGO, THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND INTO THIS YEAR.

AND EVERY YEAR WE'VE ACTUALLY TURNED OUT ABOUT DOUBLE WHAT WE PROJECTED EVEN BEFORE PRE-PANDEMIC OVER WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING TO SELL THEIR VEHICLES FOR. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME REFERENCE POINT THERE, WHICH ONE OF THESE ENTITIES DO YOU ACTUALLY WORK FOR? IS IT THE FLEET MANAGEMENT GROUP? IS IT I WORK FOR ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT OR ENTERPRISE HOLDINGS? GOT IT. THE COMPANY. SO YOU WORK FOR, THE PARENT COMPANY OVER ALL OF THESE OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE IN ALL THE AGGREGATORS.

BASICALLY, SO ENTERPRISE JUST THE REASON ENTERPRISE FM TRUST IS THE LENDING ARM OF OUR BUSINESS.

IT'S THROUGH THAT WHAT'S CALLED THE ASSET BACKED FINANCE MARKET THAT FUNDS IT.

AND THE PRIMARY INVESTOR IS THE ENTERPRISE, THE FAMILY ENTERPRISE INTO THAT TRUST.

AND IT HAS IT HAS TO BE SET THAT WAY AT ARM'S LENGTH.

SO THAT BASED ON THE COVENANTS OF THAT TRUST, HOW THE ABS MARKET ACTUALLY ACTUALLY WORKS.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THAT [INAUDIBLE] TRUST AND LENDING ARM OF THE BUSINESS WITH THE ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT INC.

IS THE ACTUAL MANAGEMENT COMPANY ITSELF TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR.

COUNCIL ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? WHAT WOULD COUNCIL LIKE TO DO? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-695 APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE MASTER EQUITY LEASE AGREEMENT IN RELATED DOCUMENTS WITH ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT.

MAY I ASK, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO GIVE DIRECT, I GUESS, OR AT LEAST GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF THAT THEY BRING VEHICLE CHANGES OVER TO US? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY OUTLINE THIS.

IT GIVES CITY MANAGEMENT THE AUTHORITY IN THERE.

WE'LL GET WITH NICK AND GET BEFORE ANYTHING IS ORDERED.

SO I JUST WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP.

SO WE JUST I DON'T WANT TO BOG IT DOWN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE UNLESS YOU'LL HAVE SPECIAL MEETINGS, I MEAN, YOU'LL CALL SPECIAL QUORUMS AS IT RELATES TO HIM LUKE BRINGING IT TO YOU, THAT SOMETIMES THAT MIGHT NOT ALWAYS WORK.

FOR INSTANCE, IF WE NEED TO ORDER VEHICLES NEXT WEEK, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING PRIOR TO THAT TO CALL A QUORUM IN ORDER TO AUTHORIZE LUKE TO DO THAT? AND IF THOSE TIME CONSTRAINTS IF THERE'S TIME CONSTRAINTS RELATED OUT, ARE Y'ALL PREPARED TO DO THAT?

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SO THERE'S NO AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON LUKE OR OUR CITY STAFF TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND HAVE TO ANSWER FOR THEM LATER.

NEVER MIND THAT. SO ARE YOU SAYING? I'M ASKING WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE THE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO MAKE SURE THEY BRING VEHICLE SELECTIONS TO COUNCIL? CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? WHAT'S EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE LOOK LIKE NEXT WEEK? I KNOW PATTI'S OUT.

CAN WE DO A WORKSHOP? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET THAT STUFF? YEAH I MEAN, ONCE THEY WERE THEY OPEN UP THE [INAUDIBLE].

I'M GOING TO BUILD IT AND SEND IT TO YOU.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE IT BY FRIDAY.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY UPLOAD PROCESSING.

THEY HAVEN'T RELEASED ALL THEIR 2023.

IS THERE A TIME THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AT LEAST 72 HOURS BETWEEN GETTING THE INFORMATION AND US BEING ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION? NOT FOR ORDERING VEHICLES? I MEAN, ALL WE NEED IS 72 HOURS.

SO I THINK WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN MAKE SOMETHING WORK THERE TO GET A QUORUM, AT LEAST TO MAKE DECISIONS.

WELL, WE NEED AT LEAST FOR THE INITIAL ROLLOUT.

DO WE NEED A SUPER QUORUM FOR A WORKSHOP NOW? I DON'T THINK SO. A WORKSHOP? WE DON'T NEED 72 HOURS.

WE JUST HAVE TO POST IT AT A WORKSHOP WE DON'T NEED.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GIVE US DRAFT DIRECTION SO WE CAN JUST DO A WORKSHOP AND .. OKAY, JIM, WERE YOU SAYING SORRY, YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUT, TOO? I MEAN, IS COUNCIL COMFORTABLE WITH JUST LETTING STAFF MAKE THE DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD AND.

I THINK UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND THIS PROGRAM, I THINK INITIALLY I KNOW IT PUTS A PRESSURE ON YOU ALL WITH THE TIMELINE, BUT I THINK INITIALLY IT WOULD IT WOULD HELP US ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] BE ABLE TO DO IT LEGALLY.

FOR A WORKSHOP, COULD WE HAVE? I MEAN, QUITE HONESTLY, I'LL BE OUT THERE, SO JUST TELL ME WHEN I NEED TO WALK IN HERE.

HAD THAT CAPABILITY.

YES, WE COULD, THEY COULD PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY YES.

[INAUDIBLE] HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.

I'M GOING TO BUILD THE WHOLE SCHEDULE BASED OFF 2022 VEHICLES, WHICH WERE NOT NECESSARILY PROBABLY ARE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY CHANGE WHAT THE VEHICLES ARE GOING TO CHANGE TO THE 2023. THE ONLY THING THAT THAT YOU'RE ONLY DECISION TO MAKE AS YOU ALL CAN GIVE ME DIRECTION RIGHT NOW ON THIS ON TERMS OF THE IF WE'RE DOING HALF TON TRUCKS IN THERE, YOU GET TWO OPTIONS, EITHER A FOUR TURBOCHARGED FOUR CYLINDER ENGINE OR YOU HAVE A V8 ENGINE.

THOSE ARE YOUR TWO OPTIONS OF ENGINES AND A HALF TON TRUCK.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY DECISION YOU HAVE TO MAKE AS IT RELATES TO THOSE.

NO TORK ON THOSE.

WELL, GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

IS THERE A SECOND OR.

WAIT A MINUTE, TERRY, DID YOU ACCEPT? I DID, EXCEPTING AND..

I WILL SECOND THE MOTION AS AMENDED.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER TO ACCEPT RESOLUTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-695 WITH THE AMENDMENT TO DIRECT TO STAFF TO BRING INFORMATION BACK TO COUNCIL.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-695, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? NOT SEEING ANY, MOTION PASSES FIVE-ZERO.

I'LL TALK TO YOU SOON. NICK, ONE QUESTION.

YOU'RE OUT. CAN YOU? SO YOU THINK BY FRIDAY YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO.

I'M GOING TO BUILD IT OFF 2022'S AND GET Y'ALL APPROVED SPECS OFF THAT THEN.

I JUST DON'T WANT US, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S GOING TO REALLY LOOK LIKE ONCE THEY OPEN UP HER EXACT DATE WHEN THEY'RE OPEN UP.

SO I WANT TO BE PREPARED TO BE ABLE TO ORDER VEHICLES LIKE IMMEDIATELY WHEN THEY OPEN UP AND WE CAN ALWAYS GO TO THE COURT, THOSE COMPANIES WEBSITES TOO, AND SEE WHAT ENGINE OPTIONS THEY'RE OFFERING.

THERE'S ONLY A HALF TON.

THERE'S ONLY TWO OPTIONS. WELL, I'M SAYING IF WE WENT TO, YOU KNOW, CODE ENFORCEMENT TO A CAR OR A SMALL SUV OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE, WHAT'S EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE LOOK LIKE MONDAY? I HATE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.

PUT EVERYONE ON THE SPOT. I JUST WANT TO WHILE WE'RE ALL IN ONE ROOM.

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TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, I'M OUT.

SO TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, YOU'RE OUT? YOU GUYS WIDE OPEN. OK, DOES THE DAYTIME CAUSE ANY CONCERNS? NOBODY. IT'S OKAY WITH ME ANY TIME.

I ACTUALLY AM PRETTY GOOD AFTER 2:00 ON.

SO 2:30 MONDAY.

WE CAN POST IT TOMORROW MORNING AND WE CAN HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THAT.

IS THAT. DIANA, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE? OKAY. YOU CAN JOIN US VIRTUALLY APRIL 25TH.

AND EARLY VOTING IS GOING ON HERE WHERE WE CAN MEET IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

WE'LL JUST HAVE TO LEAVE IT OPEN IF PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN.

YEAH, IF PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN, WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

I KNOW WE'RE HARD UP FOR SPACE RIGHT NOW, SO.

SO WE CAN MEET.

I WILL SEND OUT MONDAY THE 25TH 2:30.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL, MAYOR, COUNCIL I APPRECIATE YOU ALL ESPECIALLY I APPRECIATE YOUR INVESTMENT AND INVESTING SO MUCH TIME INTO THIS.

I TRULY DO.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND BREAK AND LAST MINUTE COME TOGETHER ON MONDAY.

I KNOW THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS TOUGH TO DO.

EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE. EVERYBODY'S VERY BUSY.

SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU, NICK. OKAY.

MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-696 REGARDING NOMINATION OF A BOARD OF DIRECTOR POSITION FOR THE COLLIN COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. AS YOU ALL KNOW FROM YOUR PACKET THAT A PERSON HAS RESIGNED, THEREFORE LEAVING AN OPENING.

AND IN THE PAST WE HAD SUBMITTED MR. STANDRIDGE FOR OUR OUR REPRESENTATIVE AND OF COURSE PARKER BEING RATHER SMALL, AS WITH THE NUMBER OF VOTES AS PLANO AND OTHER CITIES DO, WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

BUT IS THERE A NOMINATION FOR SOMEONE TO SERVE TO BE PUT FORTH FOR THE POSITION OF DIRECTOR? MADAM MAYOR, IF HE'S WILLING TO, I WOULD JUST NOMINATE MR. STANDRIDGE AGAIN AND LET HIM HAVE ANOTHER SHOT AT IT.

MR. STANDRIDGE, ARE YOU WILLING TO DO SO? WAKE UP. IT IS A COMPLIMENT FROM THE BOARD OF CONSIDERING ME FOR THAT NOMINATION.

I'M A CITIZEN, JUST LIKE Y'ALL ARE.

AND THE HORRENDOUS AMOUNT OF APPRAISAL VALUES THAT HAVE GONE UP SHOULD NOT BE ACCURATE.

BUT WHEN YOU SEE MANY HOUSES GOING UP 100,000 PLUS, THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT.

THEN THERE'S SOMETHING NOT QUITE RIGHT.

AND I WOULD ENJOY BEING ON THE BOARD OF THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO BE ABLE TO RETURN, OFFER MY INPUT TO RETURN SO THAT WE CAN GET IT BACK IN CONTROL, SO THAT WE CAN ALL HAVE A BETTER LIFESTYLE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

I WOULD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT VERY MUCH.

OKAY, THEN THAT A MOTION.

YES MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOMINATE MR. ED STANDRIDGE.

OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO NOMINATE MR. STANDRIDGE FOR THE POSITION OF FOR THE NOMINATION OF A BOARD OF DIRECTOR POSITION FOR THE COLLIN COUNTY APPRAISAL CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? NO. PASSES 5-0.

MR. STANDRIDGE, WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE MS. GRAY YOUR ADDRESS? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE PIECE OF PAPER.

LIKE WE ALL DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ACCEPTING AN ONGOING DONATION IN THE AMOUNT EXCEEDING $500.

NOT EXPECTED TO EXCEED $2500 FROM MUSLIMS GIVING BACK, HOPEFULLY.

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I A GROUP OF MUSLIMS WOULD LIKE TO BRING A FOOD TRUCK TO THE CITY OF PARKER AND PROVIDE BOXED LUNCHES FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

THEY DO THIS FOR IRVING AND SEVERAL OTHER CITIES AND WHICH IS A VERY NICE GESTURE.

BUT IT IT'S OVER THE AMOUNT THAT I CAN JUST PERSONALLY ACCEPT.

SO WE'RE WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU ALL TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE FEELING IS ON THIS.

SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ONE WAS THAT I ASSUME THAT EACH LUNCH IS GOING TO BE WAY LESS THAN THE 2500.

SO THE 2500 IS FOR AN ONGOING BASIS.

SO ONE THING THAT COULD BE AN OPTION HERE TO MAKE THIS MAYBE NOT SEEM AS LOFTY OF A DONATION IS COULD WE SPLIT IT UP THAT THEY DO IT ON A MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY BASIS.

SO IS MUCH LESS VALUE AND THEN IT ISN'T AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE.

WELL, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE TOTALITY OF THE DONATION OVER THAT TIME FRAME, BECAUSE THE WAY WE READ THE ORDINANCE THAT EXCEEDS $500.

LIKE THEY'RE GIVING SOMETHING OVER $500, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IT'S MONTHLY, WHICH WOULD NOT EXCEED THE $500.

BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE TOTALITY OF IT, WE STAFF AND OURSELVES DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

SO THAT WAS WHY WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU ALL.

SO PART OF THE DIFFICULTY IS THE FIRST MONTH WE MAY HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND GET A BOX LUNCH. THE NEXT MONTH WE MAY HAVE 26 PEOPLE.

SO WE WE CAN'T EVEN PUT A MONTHLY VALUE ON IT IN THAT KIND OF DEAL.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF WE FEEL THAT IT EXCEEDS 2500, WE WILL IMMEDIATELY BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT DONATION IS I THINK IT IS INCREDIBLY GENEROUS THAT THEY WANT TO DO THAT FOR OUR STAFF AND TO RECOGNIZE, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A SMALLER CITY AND WE DON'T ALWAYS GET RECOGNIZED IN SOME OF THE BIG GIVEBACKS.

WITH THAT, MADAM MAYOR, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE DONATION, WHETHER IT'S 500,000.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST VERY THOUGHTFUL THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO THINK OF OUR THIS GROUP IS WILLING TO THINK OF OUR STAFF, THANK THEM FOR THEIR DONATION AND WILLINGNESS AND APPROVE THE DONATION, SINCE IT WILL BE IN EXCESS OF 500 BUT NOT EXPECTING TO EXCEED $2,500.

IF IT DOES EXCEED THAT, I WOULD ASK THAT IT COME BACK TO COUNCIL SO WE CAN THANK THEM FOR THEIR GENEROSITY BEYOND THAT.

OKAY. JUST TO CLARIFY, LORI WILL BE KEEPING TRACK OF HOW MANY THAT'S GOING TO BE THEIR POINT OF CONTEXT.

WE WILL KNOW HOW MUCH, WHAT BOX IS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THAT A QUESTION THOSE ARE GOING TO BE RECONCILED.

ONE QUESTION THAT I DID HAVE ON THIS, JUST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE, I KNOW IT SAYS CITY STAFF.

WE DON'T ALWAYS NECESSARILY ACCOUNT FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS, THE PART TIME GUYS THAT WE HAVE, BUT ARE THEY GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PROGRAM AS WELL? YES. OKAY. IS THERE A TIME FRAME ON THIS? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ONE.

NO, IT SAYS OVER THE NEXT YEAR THEY WANT TO DO IT FOR THE WHOLE YEAR IN THEIR EMAIL.

YEAH. YEAH.

AND I GUESS IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE AFTER THAT, THEY WILL SEND US SOME NEW MORE INFORMATION.

I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. SLAUGHTER. IS THERE A SECOND, MADAM MAYOR? I'LL MOVE TO SECOND.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN ABRAHAM TO ACCEPT THE GENEROUS DONATION FROM THE MUSLIMS GIVING BACK OF PROVIDING BOXED LUNCHES TO STAFF ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY ONE OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES FIVE-ZERO.

THANK YOU. ANY COMMITTEE UPDATES FROM ANYONE?

[4. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2022-695, APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE MASTER EQUITY LEASE AGREEMENT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS WITH ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT]

THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE, CONSISTING OF MYSELF AND CHIEF BURKES TODAY, CHIEF SHEFF WAS OUT.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A PARKER RESIDENT NAMED MR. DAVID DRIVER.

HE HAS PRIOR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS TRAINING EXPERIENCE AND IS ALSO PREVIOUS MILITARY.

AND SO HE HE JOINED US TODAY.

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OURS IS TAILORED SPECIFICALLY TO PARKER [INAUDIBLE] AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED FUTURE TABLETOP EXERCISES SO THAT WE CAN TALK AS LIKE WORST CASE SCENARIOS.

FOR PARKER, WE PRETTY MUCH DETERMINE THAT IT'S USUALLY GOING TO BE A NATURAL DISASTER EVENT, SUCH AS A TORNADO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT COMES THROUGH HERE.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO SOME TABLETOP EXERCISES AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR SO THAT WE ARE PREPARED FOR THESE KIND OF SCENARIOS.

I KNOW PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A TORNADO THAT'S COME THROUGH PARKER.

PEOPLE IN ROWLETT SAID THAT IN 2015.

AND SO I ALWAYS WANT OUR CITY TO BE PREPARED FOR THESE KIND OF SCENARIOS.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT COMING UP WITH A DISASTER RECOVERY PLAN.

THAT'S SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.

AND FINALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT ENGAGING OUR RESIDENTS IN A VOLUNTEER COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM.

WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH THE NAME OF IT YET, BUT IT'S BASICALLY DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS.

IT'S LIKE NEIGHBOR CHECKING ON NEIGHBOR DURING A UNFORTUNATE EVENT SUCH AS A TORNADO OR ANY OTHER DISASTER.

AND IT ALSO HELPS ALLEVIATE THE STRAIN ON OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES DURING THAT TIME.

SO THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE UTILIZED A SIMILAR KIND OF PROGRAM AND WITH VERY BENEFICIAL RESULTS.

WE ALSO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THIS TORNADO SEASON.

BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROGRAM OVER OF COURSE, MAYBE THE NEXT 2 TO 5 YEARS, WE'LL HAVE A GOOD CITIZEN FORCE ACTUALLY THERE THAT CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, BE RESPONSIVE OR DEPLOYED DURING THIS SUCH AN EVENT AS A TORNADO.

SO WE'LL BE PUTTING OUT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

WE DO WANT CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT IN IT.

SO IF THERE ARE CITIZENS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BEING A VOLUNTEER, WE'RE GOING TO AT THE RIGHT TIME, WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUT THAT KIND OF ANNOUNCEMENT.

SO SOMETHING FOR RESIDENTS TO THINK ABOUT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ABRAHAM I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT YOU MIGHT LOOK AT VIPS, VOLUNTEER AND POLICING.

THEY HAVE A NONPROFIT WEBSITE.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAM GUIDELINES SIMILAR TO THAT THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO CUT AND PASTE TO FORM ONE THAT FITS US BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEM FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS AND WHAT YOU EXPERIENCE TORNADOES, FLOODS AND ALL OF THAT AND WHAT THOSE PROGRAMS LOOK LIKE IN TRAINING PROTOCOLS.

HOPEFULLY NOT FLOODS RELATED TO DRAINAGE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. ABRAHAM? OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMITTEE UPDATES? YOU KNOW. OKAY.

OKAY. NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTER FOR THE RECORD THAT THE CITY HAS ACCEPTED A DONATION TO THE FIRE, POLICE AND CITY STAFF FROM CINDY AND JAMES HENDERSON AND ANTHONY CORDOVA, WHO DONATED SNACKS VALUED AT $120. WE THANK THEM VERY MUCH FOR THEIR GENEROSITY.

NEXT, I WILL ASK, ARE THERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED AT THIS TIME? IF NOT, AS YOU KNOW, JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PUT IT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA LIST AND GET IT ON THE AGENDA AS SOON AS WE CAN. AT THIS TIME, THAT CONCLUDES THE COUNCIL MEETING, AND WE WILL I WILL ADJOURN IT AND WE WILL GO TO WHERE THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED, AND I'LL GO TO THE WORKSHOP, WHICH.

WELL, I KNOW. DON'T I ADJOURN THE COUNCIL.

OKAY? NEVER MIND.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO THE WORKSHOP AND THERE ARE TWO ITEMS ON THE WORKSHOP.

THE FIRST ONE IS TO REVIEW THE FEE SCHEDULE, WHICH I BELIEVE MR. SLAUGHTER YOU WOULD LIKE TO HANDLE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HANDLE, BUT I DIDN'T WANT IT ON HERE.

THERE ARE YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT AS A CITY WE INCUR COSTS FOR THINGS THAT WE DO.

THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS ON HERE THAT ARE CURIOSITY THAT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.

OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THOSE WAS WHEN WE BROUGHT UP THE ALARM PERMITS.

I UNDERSTAND AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT NIGHT THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND WE CHARGE FOR THE REGISTRATION AND THEN WE CHARGE AN ANNUAL RENEWAL EVERY YEAR.

AND IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER TO PAY THAT AND IT'S LATE, THEN THERE'S A THERE'S A LATE FEE ON THAT, PLUS THE RENEWAL.

AND I STILL KIND OF LOOK AT THIS AND GO AS THE CITY OF PARKER, WE PROVIDE A SERVICE.

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EVERY JANUARY, OUR RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY BURDENED WITH THE HOLIDAYS AND THE BURDENED WITH PROPERTY TAXES, AND WE'RE THROWING ANOTHER $20 IN THERE ON COSTS OF EVERYTHING ELSE ALSO KICKS IN IN JANUARY FOR COST.

IS IT REASONABLE TO CONTINUE TO CHARGE? AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT FEE.

I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL KIND OF NICKEL AND DIME FEES ON OUR FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S REASONABLE FOR A CITY OF OUR SIZE TO CONTINUE TO CHARGE THOSE TO OUR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE I DO THINK IT ALL ADDS UP.

MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE AN ALARM AND I THINK THAT AN EXTRA $20 WOULD BE APPRECIATED BY THEM AND IT SEEMS LIKE A MINUTE AMOUNT OF MONEY.

BUT FOR SEVERAL OF OUR RESIDENTS, IT'S NOT.

I HEARD ABOUT IT DURING OUR LAST WHEN WE DISCUSSED THAT.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE FORGET AND THEN THEY GET HIT WITH IT WHEN THEIR ALARM GOES OFF AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY THE LATE FEE.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERATE ON THAT MANY TIMES.

OH OOPS, I FORGOT BECAUSE WE WE DON'T SEND OUT THE PAPER NOTICES ANYMORE.

BUT I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.

I ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF OUR ANIMAL CONTROL FEES.

I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE KIND OF THE COSTS THAT WE OFFSET.

AND I'D LIKE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT AGREEMENT WITH MURPHY AND WHETHER WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER OPTIONS FOR THAT OUTSIDE OF THAT, SUCH AS THE COUNTY.

SO THOSE WERE KIND OF THE TWO THAT I HAD THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS, WERE THOSE TWO FEES ON THE FEE SCHEDULE.

OK, JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE OF IT, I'VE HAD A REQUEST TO PUT THE ANIMAL CONTROL CONTRACT ON A FUTURE AGENDA SO WE COULD ALL LOOK AT IT AND DISCUSS IT.

SO THAT DOES ADD, THERE WAS ONE MORE THAT I HAD MARKED ON HERE, WHICH HAS BEEN ASKED.

IT'S ACTUALLY UNDER SIGNAGE WHICH REALLY FALLS FOR DEVELOPERS.

IT DOESN'T FALL FOR THIS, BUT WE HAVE TEMPORARY REAL ESTATE SIGNS REQUIRE $75 FEE.

SO I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I KNOW WHO ARE IN REAL ESTATE WHO HAVE ASKED ME IF I PUT A FOR SALE SIGN IN A HOUSE, DO I HAVE TO PAY A $75 FEE? IT'S NOT REALLY CLARIFIED ON OUR FEE SCHEDULE.

JUST AS A TEMPORARY REAL ESTATE SIGN.

IT'S $75.

NO, WE HAVE IT, BUT IT'S ON OUR FEE SCHEDULE.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER WITH HIM WE COULD PUT IF WE CHOSE.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF ONE THAT I THOUGHT WAS I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT CONSIST OF? 5000 BUILDER SIGNS UP AND DOWN PARKER ROAD.

WE DON'T CHARGE $75 A PIECE FOR.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THOSE NEED TO BE ON HERE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, NOT WITHOUT LOOKING AT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WAS TAILORED TO THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE.

IT WAS I WAS LOOKING AT IT.

IT WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR THE DEVELOPERS PUTTING UP SIGNS FOR THAT BASED ON THE ORDINANCES, BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT THE FEE SCHEDULE SAYS.

SO I JUST THINK WE COULD CLARIFY, SINCE WE DON'T CHARGE THAT TO THEM EITHER.

A LOT OF THE SIGNS, THEY COME OUT ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND THEY GO DOWN ON MONDAY MORNING BECAUSE OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEY'RE FOR HOUSES NOT, YOU KNOW. WELL, THOSE GUYS ARE PAID PER SIGN THEY PUT OUT.

SO THEY DON'T CARE. THEY'LL JUST KEEP PUTTING THEM OUT THERE.

I THINK CHAD'S COLLECTED A COUPLE LATELY, HASN'T HE? SO YEAH, WE ARE HAVING CODE ENFORCEMENT GO OUT OVER THE WEEKENDS NOW.

THAT IS AWESOME. YEAH.

YEAH WHICH IS WHY THEY NEED IT.

YEAH. SO COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER, THERE'S MORE FEES THAN THE TO THE ALARM AND, AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL.

SO WOULD YOU PROPOSE THAT WE LOOK AT ALL THE CITY FEES.

OH, I'M PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE AND LOOKING AT ALL OF THEM, WHEN I INITIALLY BROUGHT THIS UP, I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING TO PUT IT KIND OF IN A SHORT WORKSHOP ON TOP OF A MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A MUCH MORE DRAWN OUT CONVERSATION TO HAVE AS FAR AS THAT GOES, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIRECTIONS THAT THIS COULD GO.

AND THIS IS A VERY COMPACT WAY TO LOOK AT A LOT OF THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO ORDINANCE BY ORDINANCE.

AND WE CAN START LOOKING AT THEM FROM THIS STANDPOINT AND THEN PULL THE ORDINANCES THAT GO WITH THEM TO DETERMINE VALIDITY AND WHETHER WE WANT TO CONTINUE.

AND ON THE ANIMAL PORTION OF IT, I ASK THAT MAYBE WE POSTPONE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT HAS TO BE DONE AND..

YES. THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO. WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE POINT OF THE WORKSHOP WAS, UNLESS I MISUNDERSTOOD, WAS US TO KIND OF GIVE DIRECTION SO THAT WE COULD THEN START LOOKING AT WHAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT. SO WHICH ONES WOULD WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT WAY THAT WE'RE NOT JUST PULLING STAFF 100% INTO THIS? I THINK THE ALARM ONE IS DEFINITELY ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT.

I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT.

I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THE REAL ESTATE SIGNAGE.

AND I THINK ANIMAL CONTROL OR THE THE THREE IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM MEYER HAD ALREADY BEAT ME TO THAT ONE REQUESTING THAT TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM.

SO I THINK THAT THOSE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT AS WELL TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S AN EFFICIENT COST.

THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT I WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT IS JUST THIS JUST CURIOSITY IS THE POOL AND FENCE IN GROUND FEE OF $500 VERSUS AN ABOVE GROUND, WHICH IS

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THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO.

YEAH. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING FOR MY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, I JUST WANT TO KNOW.

[INAUDIBLE] THE ABOVE GROUND POOL IS WAY SIMPLER FOR US IN GOING $500, GOING FOR INSPECTION.

INSPECTS A LOT OF INSPECTIONS.

A LOT OF INSPECTIONS.

YEAH. NO, I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE I DON'T SHOW UP TO.

AL AND ON ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THINGS, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THOSE BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY BEING IMPOSED ONES.

WHICH ONES? IF YOU'RE ADDING ON TO YOUR HOLES AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

ALL THOSE ARE ENFORCED.

ALL THE PERMITS. YEAH.

OH YES, YES, YES.

WE HAVE OUR SOFTWARE SPECIFICALLY FIGURES THAT OUT WHERE IT'S ALL PROGRAMED IN THERE.

YEAH. THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT GOING INTO THE FEES FOR THE PERMITS.

YEAH. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED HERE, THERE WAS ALREADY STUFF PRE HIGHLIGHTED.

SO TO MAKE SURE THAT I CLEARED IT, IT'S, I NOTICE THAT WE DON'T CHARGE A PLUMBING CONTRACTOR TO RENEW, BUT WE CHARGE ELECTRICAL? STATE LAW CHANGE. GOT IT.

OKAY. SOMEBODY HAD A GOOD PLUMBERS GOT.

YEAH, THEY HAD SOME GOOD LAWYERS THERE.

I WISH WE COULD DO ROOFERS.

WELL, IN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES ORDINANCES, THEY INDICATE THAT ELECTRICAL AND MECHANICAL ALSO ARE EXEMPT BY STATE LAW. THAT'S ALSO NEW.

IS THAT. OKAY.

SO THOSE ARE TWO THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED.

THE OTHER ITEMS THAT I'D KIND OF LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND DISCUSS IS THE ZONING VARIANCE CHARGE THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT.

AND THE WELL IS THAT 600.

AND I WILL TELL YOU OFF MOST OF THAT, I THINK A GOOD DISCUSSION IS IS WOULD BE HELPFUL ON THAT FOR ALL OF US TO TALK ABOUT IT, TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE HAVE VARIANCES.

AND ARE THERE SOME THINGS THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE CONSIDER CHANGES TO OUR CODE BECAUSE THEY DON'T REQUIRE YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T BE REQUIRING CERTAIN THINGS.

SO I'D LIKE A ROBUST DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE.

AND THEN THE OTHER IS BULK WATER SALES.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL IT.

GARY. YES, YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CHARGE PEOPLE, THESE PEOPLE THAT PUT THOSE THINGS ON THE WATER HYDRANTS.

BUT YEAH, I JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CHARGING AN APPROPRIATE FEE FOR THOSE BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF WATER GOING OUT THROUGH THOSE.

BULK WATER IS GOING TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE AND FILL UP A TANK AT THE FIRE HYDRANT.

OKAY. SO WHAT DO WE CALL THE THING WHERE THEY HAVE A FIRE HYDRANT AND METER METER THAT IT'S BASED ON? YEAH. SO IS IT YOU KNOW, WHAT IS WHAT IS THE RATE USED AND THAT KIND OF THING I THINK WOULD BE OKAY, YEAH.

MY QUESTION THERE AND WHEN IS IT APPROPRIATE? NOT APPROPRIATE.

ANY TIME THEY COME FILL UP THE TANK FOR THE WATER.

WELL, THEY FILL UP A LOT OF TANKS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CHARGING THEM THE RIGHT AMOUNT.

AND THAT WE KNOW ABOUT IT.

GARY TELLS ME THEY'RE WATCHING.

I GOT A CALL FROM THE PRESIDENT TONIGHT ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT'S TAKING WATER OUT OF A FIRE HYDRANT AND WHO'S ON PARKER ROAD.

AND SHE'S QUITE UPSET ABOUT IT AS WELL.

IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE NEED TO GO OVER A WHOLE LOT OF THIS, AND SOME OF IT MAY NEED TO BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CODES OF COUNCIL. I WILL ASK YOU, IS THERE HOPE FOR THE CODES THAT WE WILL SEE THEM? WHICH CODES? WELL, I MEAN, CODE OF ORDINANCES, SOME OF THAT.

WE'RE STILL WAITING ON BIRKOFF BECAUSE HE'S BEEN PULLED OFF ON OTHER ASSIGNMENTS.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S ON THE LIST, BUT AND THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THIS IS JUST MY OPINION THAT WE WANT TO SLICE THIS MAYBE INTO PIE SECTIONS BECAUSE I THINK WE WOULD GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS ON A WORKSHOP TRYING TO ADDRESS ALL THE FEE SCHEDULE IN ONE.

IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO CUT THIS OUT AND DO THIS ON A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE I THINK THAT SOME THINGS WOULD GET NEGLECTED BECAUSE WE GET TIRED AFTER A WHILE

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OKAY, CAN WE PRIORITIZE SO WE KNOW WHICH ONES YOU ALL WANT TO GO WITH FIRST, WHICH ONES YOU DON'T WANT TO GO WITH SECOND.

OTHERWISE, LUKE AND I ARE GOING TO DRAW STRAWS AND MAYBE LET TRADE BE THE FINAL ARBITRATOR.

MADAM MAYOR, THERE WERE NO STRAWS IN THE BUDGET, SO YOU'RE OUT OF LUCK THERE.

I WOULD SAY THE BEST PLACE TO START AT THE BEGINNING.

MAYBE GO WITH THE ALARMS, AND WE COULD PROBABLY DO ALARMS AND ANIMAL CONTROL TOGETHER SINCE THEY BOTH START WITH A'S.

THERE'S NO SCIENCE BEHIND THAT.

BUT I JUST THINK THAT THOSE TWO COULD GO TOGETHER BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ALARMS IS GOING TO BE VERY LONG, BUT I THINK ANIMAL CONTROL MIGHT BE A LITTLE LONGER.

WOULD ANIMAL CONTROL BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ANIMAL CONTROL CONTRACT, THOUGH? YES. I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE IT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MAYBE SOME RESEARCH.

YES, I KNOW THAT. ALARMS. YEAH. AND I REALLY STARTED THAT PROJECT.

I DIDN'T GET VERY FAR, BUT I STARTED I WAS KIND OF ASSIGNED THAT PROJECT A WHILE BACK BEFORE THE RENEWAL COMES UP, I BELIEVE IN JULY.

YEAH. SO YEAH, BETWEEN NOW AND JULY THAT'S WHY I FIGURE THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE TO GO AHEAD AND DELVE INTO BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE RESEARCHED AFTER OUR CONVERSATIONS IN A WORKSHOP TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET TO IT.

YEAH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

CAN I GET SPECIFICS ON WHAT YOU WERE EXACTLY WANTING FOR ITEMS IN THE PACKET? THAT WAY, WE'RE MEETING YOUR GUYS'S GOALS AND NEEDS.

OKAY. I CAN TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ANIMAL CONTROL.

NOT THAT I'M TRYING TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM.

NO, YOU CAN HAVE IT.

I JUST WOULD LIKE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.

SO I REVIEWED THE LAST TWO YEARS OF ANIMAL CONTROL AND INVOICES.

AND BASED ON THE LAST TWO YEARS, I CAN COME UP WITH CATEGORIES THAT THEN WE CAN DISCUSS SO IT CAN BE DONE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG DISCUSSION, BUT THERE PROBABLY ARE PROBABLY TEN OR 15 CATEGORIES THAT THINGS WOULD FALL INTO AND THEN DISCUSS THE FEES ASSOCIATED AND WHO PAYS THEM.

WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE THE CONTRACT FOR.

YEAH. AND ANY ORDINANCES THAT WOULD RELATE TO THAT. THAT'S ALL.

YEAH, THERE'S JUST NO.

YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG CONVERSATION.

TAXING ON STAFF.

RIGHT. YOU CAN ADD BOTH OF THOSE TOGETHER.

LUKE. LUKE, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO DO THE ANIMAL CONTROL RESEARCH? THAT'S PRETTY BACKED UP RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES.

WE ARE VERY BACKED UP AND USUALLY WE DO THIS DURING THE BUDGET, JUST KIND OF REVIEW.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE STILL GOT A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOT.

EVEN LUKE SCRATCHED THE SURFACE.

I THINK I CAN DO I CAN DO MOST OF THAT AND NOT GIVE IT TO HIM AS WELL.

COUNCIL ALSO NEEDS TO BE AWARE, AS I THINK MOST OF US ARE, THAT COMING UP, STARTING IN MID-MAY OR 1ST OF JUNE, WE'RE GOING TO START OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS, OUR PLANNING WORKSHOPS.

I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKSHOP TO DEATH BECAUSE FROM NOW UNTIL SEPTEMBER, IT'S A VERY HECTIC TIME.

AND I DON'T WANT ANYTHING WHERE WE GET SO TIRED, WE SHORT SHIFT SOMETHING AND SAY, OH, OKAY, WE'LL DO THAT LATER AND THEN LATER NEVER HAPPENS.

SO EVERYBODY AGREES BECAUSE THEY'RE TIRED LIKE NOW.

WELL, THEN, IS THIS BETTER THAN TO WAIT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF COUNCIL WANTS, BUT IS IT BETTER TO WAIT THAN FOR DURING THE MASS NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS THAT WE HAVE? WELL, I THINK WE HAVE TO GO AHEAD BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACT ON THE ANIMAL ORDINANCE ON THE ANIMALS WITH MURPHY THAT COMES UP FOR RENEWAL IN JULY OR AUGUST, I DON'T REMEMBER.

SO THAT ONE I THINK HAS TO GO.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE READY TO DEAL WITH THAT CONTRACT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME IF WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGES.

PLUS, WE MAY HAVE TO TALK TO MURPHY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WHATEVER WE WANT MAY NOT BE AGREEABLE TO THEM.

PLUS, THERE MIGHT BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT.

I DON'T KNOW. SO THAT ONE, I THINK ALARMS IS IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK THAT IT CAN WAIT A LITTLE WHILE BECAUSE IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD A WORKSHOP IN JANUARY WHEN ALL THIS WAS GOING ON, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE EFFECTIVE.

BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE COULD DO THAT.

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WE HAVE UNTIL JANUARY, UNTIL THE NEXT ONES ARE DUE TO REALLY ADDRESS IT.

WE JUST WANT ENOUGH TIME TO GET IT INTO PLACE IF WE DECIDE TO.

AGAIN, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY QUICK CONVERSATION.

I JUST THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT TO IT.

IT'S JUST KIND OF ONE OF THEM THAT KEEPS GETTING BROUGHT UP.

BUT I THINK THAT I AGREE.

I'M I'M FINE.

WHENEVER WE NEED TO DO IT FOR ANIMAL CONTROL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THE IDEA AS WELL, BUT I THINK WE CAN HAMMER ALL THAT OUT IN WORKSHOP OR AT LEAST START TO GET A DIRECTION THERE.

WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO, TROY, TROY WILL HAVE TO ADVISE ME, IS WE CAN DO A WORKSHOP ON ANIMALS AND HAVE OTHER THINGS ON THE WORKSHOP IF TIME PERMITS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME, BUT IT TURNS OUT IT ONLY TAKES 10 MINUTES.

THEN WE COULD GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM IS STAFF WOULD STILL HAVE TO PREPARE FOR ALL THOSE CONTINGENCY ITEMS AS WELL.

SO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME FROM THEM.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST PIECEMEAL IT.

LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S JUST ONE OF THESE ARE BUDGET RELATED AND WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO THE BUDGET.

SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE IN THE EXISTING BUDGET WORKSHOPS TWO BIRDS, ONE STONE.

BUT I THINK ANIMAL CONTROL WILL HAVE TO BE ITS OWN SEPARATE BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THERE.

DO WE? I'VE NEVER SEEN A REAL ESTATE SIGNAGE CHARGED.

HAVE WE EVER CHARGED ANYONE THAT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HOLD OFF ON BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EVEN PLANNED BUDGET BUDGETED FOR THAT.

SO AND THEN IT'S MUCH LESS OF A CONCERN FOR A WORKSHOP AND MUCH MORE OF A WE JUST NEED TO CORRECT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.

YEAH. AND THE ZONING VARIANCE CODES, I DON'T THINK WE DO THEM THAT OFTEN.

AND HOW MANY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I THINK WHAT, WHAT TERRY WAS GETTING AT IS SOME, SOME ISSUES THAT COME UP FAIRLY COMMON, MAYBE ADDRESS THOSE IN CODE WHEN WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND.

BUT CODE CHANGES.

WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT THOSE IN THE PAST ALSO AND THERE ARE SOME LEGAL REASONS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT SOME OF THE ITEMS, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. WELL AND MAYBE WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO KNOW WHAT THOSE WELL BUT I THINK GARY'S POINT IS WE CAN DISCUSS IT WITH THE CODE MAYBE AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CHANGE TO THE CODE, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE I SUSPECT IT'LL COME UP ANYWAY.

OKAY.

SO OUR FIRST WORKSHOP WILL BE ON ANIMALS.

IS THAT EVERYBODY IN [INAUDIBLE] NO.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A WORKSHOP, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A WORKSHOP LIKE WE'RE HAVING NOW.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SEPARATE WORKSHOP WITH THAT BEING THE ONLY THING.

HOW DO YOU WANT IT TO? I REALLY WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE IT AT THE END OF A COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE ALL TIRED.

OKAY, THEN I WILL ASK EVERYBODY TO PLEASE SEND LUKE SOME TIMES AND DATES WHEN YOU'RE AVAILABLE.

BECAUSE THAT'S THE HARDEST THING WHEN WE DON'T HAVE IT WITH THE COUNCIL MEETING IS TRYING TO GET A DATE THAT'S AGREEABLE.

CAN I SUGGEST THAT WE GET WITH LET LUKE TELL US WHAT HE HAS TIME TO PREPARE FOR IN THAT INSTANCE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON HERE AND I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR SCHEDULES.

BUT I THINK WE COULD LET LUKE TELL US WHAT THE CITY CAN DO AND THEN WE WORK WITH THAT.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES.

I JUST I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT COMING UP AND WELL, WE'RE GOING INTO SUMMER, A LOT'S COMING UP AND WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO BUDGET.

SO WE HAVE DCEQ STUFF COMING UP BECAUSE WE JUST GOT NOTICED TONIGHT.

I MEAN IT'S, A HECTIC TIME.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING WORRIED ABOUT IS YES.

AND WE DON'T WANT.. TIME CONSTRAINTS.

LET'S JUST PRIORITIZE BASED ON WHATEVER YOU'RE WHATEVER YOU FEEL IS, IS YOURIF YOU COULD SEND THOSE TO ME, THAT WOULD BE SO I CAN PUT IT AT LEAST IN MY CALENDAR THAT WAY.

I KNOW, YOU KNOW, MICHAEL IS FLYING TO EUROPE.

I DON'T KNOW. WHATEVER, YOU KNOW.

BUT JUST SO I CAN HAVE IT.

NOTE, THERE'S NO MASK MANDATE.

AROUND ELECTION TIME.

I USUALLY ASK FOR EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULES ANYWAY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SEVERAL MEETINGS COMING UP, BUT WE'VE GOT THE BUDGET THINGS COMING UP.

USUALLY IF YOU'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR A WHILE AROUND THIS TIME OF YEAR, I START PROMPTING PEOPLE TO GET THEIR VACATION.

SO WE'LL TRY TO GET TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT ALL THOSE THINGS.

YEAH. IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON VACATION AND UNAVAILABLE, LET EITHER LUKE OR PATTY KNOW SO WE CAN GET IT ON THE CALENDAR.

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THE OTHER THING THAT IS ON HERE IS THE TO CLARIFY THE COMMUNICATIONS POLICY, AND THAT REALLY IS THE ELECTRONICS POLICY BECAUSE IT'S MUCH MORE THAN JUST CITY EMAIL.

I MEAN, IT IS THINGS LIKE AND TREY IS GOING TO HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THIS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES IN THE LAW THAT ARE SURPRISING.

DON'T BE LOOKING AT ME.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT.

BASICALLY, WHEN WE WHEN COUNCIL DIRECTED US AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING TO COME UP WITH A POLICY, I BELIEVE IT WAS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CITY STAFF.

WELL, WE DIDN'T THINK UNTIL AFTER THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT DOES NOT HAVE EMAIL ADDRESSES FOR EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE OVER THERE.

I THINK WE'RE 26 TO 28 SHORT THERE.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE THAT DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO LET ALONE A COMPUTER AT PUBLIC WORKS.

THEY JUST THEY DON'T HAVE AN EMAIL.

THEY USUALLY GO THROUGH THEIR SUPERVISOR FOR STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S THIS ADDITIONAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IF WE DO THAT.

ONE THING I'VE KIND OF GOT A BALLPARK IDEA OF WHAT IT COSTS PER EMAIL, DEPENDING ON IF WE ALLOW THEM TO HAVE IT ON THEIR CELL PHONE OR IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT ON THEIR CELL PHONE. THERE'S KIND OF DIFFERENT PRICING FOR THAT.

AND THEN I'VE HAD I'VE ASKED MIKE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE COST IS IF WE BROUGHT IT LIKE GOT AN EMAIL SERVER HERE AT CITY HALL, HE DOES NOT THINK THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION, BUT HE'S RUNNING THOSE NUMBERS.

SO BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO. WELL, I'M ALSO LOOKING AT SHOULD CITY COUNCIL HAVE A CITY PHONE? YOU KNOW, IF IF WE GET TEXT FROM RESIDENTS THAT'S ON A PHONE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S USUALLY ABOUT CITY BUSINESS, NOT ALWAYS.

SOMETIMES IT'S HAPPY EASTER, BUT, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THAT BE A SEPARATION? I DON'T KNOW. AND THAT'S AN EXPENSE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S REAL EASY.

LIKE LUKE HAS TWO PHONES.

MOST PERSONAL NETWORK.

YEAH, PATTY HAS TWO PHONES.

GRANT DOESN'T.

GARY DOES.

CHIEF I THINK DOES.

BUT YOU KNOW SHOULD THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE IT IN IN IN TRANSPARENCY AND EASE OF COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, AND YOU WERE ALSO TELLING ME ABOUT SOME SOCIAL MEDIA AND FACEBOOK STUFF.

I MEAN I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I THINK THAT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE HAVE THAT OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN COMMUNICATIONS.

I WAS KIND OF CONCERNED TO FIND OUT WE DON'T HAVE AN AUTO RETENTION PROGRAM HERE.

YOU KNOW, EVEN AT MY OFFICE, IF YOU DELETE SOMETHING, IT'S NOT DELETED.

I CAN GET IT.

I CAN GET IT ON THE SERVER.

WELL, OUR POLICY SAYS THAT IF YOU DELETE IT, IT CAN BE PURGED.

AND SO THAT WAS THERE SHOULDN'T BE A POSSIBILITY.

WE TOOK THIS FROM A WE STOLE THIS.

GOT IT. OKAY, THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER.

SO, NO, NOTHING CAN BE DELETED ON OUR CITY EMAIL.

WE PAY FOR THE ADD ON FOR THE AUTO RETENTIONS SO THAT WE KEEP THAT WE HAVE.

WHAT'S IT CALLED.

WHAT'S THAT EMAIL? THE OFFICE 365.

NO THE WHERE WE CAN RECOVER EMAILS AND STUFF ON I BELIEVE IT'S ONCE IT'S SHARP BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT DOUBLE CHECK WITH MIKE ON THAT.

I'M PRETTY SURE WE HAVE THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN PROTECTIONS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM CITY STAFF BEING ABLE TO REVIEW ELECTED OFFICIALS EMAILS AND THAT THAT ALL FALLS TO HIM. BUT I THINK THAT GENERALLY THE POLICY THAT WAS PROVIDED COVERED MOST OF WHAT MY CONCERNS WERE.

I AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T THINK I THINK THE WAY THIS POLICY READS IS IF YOU'RE ASSIGNED TO CITY EMAIL, THEN YOU'RE TO USE IT.

I MY THE SPIRIT OF MY REQUEST FOR THIS WAS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO PREVENT ISSUES LIKE WE HAD IN THE PAST.

THAT'S VERY CLEAR CUT.

BUT ALSO THOSE MORE FULL TIME CITY STAFF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMUNICATED WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS.

OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULDN'T.

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SO TO ME, THAT'S NOT AS BIG OF AN ORDEAL AS IT WOULD BE FOR YOU FOR ME, FOR TERRY, FOR LEE, FOR CINDY, FOR.

DIANA, FOR JIM, FOR TREY.

SORRY I MISSED YOU THERE. I WAS RUNNING AROUND.

I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING VIA CITY.

IT PROTECTS, IT CLARIFIES.

IT DOES EVERYTHING THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF HAVING TO CARRY TWO CELL PHONES, BUT I IT'S A PAIN.

YOU KNOW, I AM NOT A FAN OF IT.

AND I JUST KEEP MY MESSAGES AND DO MY BEST.

I MEAN, THERE'S CERTAIN UNDERSTANDINGS THERE FOR ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS AND THERE'S BEEN CASE LAWS THAT DEAL WITH SOME OF THAT.

THAT I READ WHEN I WENT THROUGH MY INITIAL TRAINING.

BUT I THINK THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THIS COVERED MOST OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

I DON'T THINK MY INTENTION WAS TO COVER ALL THE VOLUNTEER FIRE GUYS.

IF THEY'RE NOT ASSIGNED AN EMAIL FOR NOT PAYING FOR ONE, THEN WE CAN'T OBLIGATE THEM TO USE IT.

BUT FOR ALL OF US, WE HAVE AN EMAIL.

YEAH, WE WERE JUST THAT WAS SOMETHING WE THOUGHT OF AFTER THE FACT BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF IT'S VALID.

WE DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T PLAY BY, YOU KNOW, JUST A GENERAL FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR ON THIS.

THAT WAY, IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES OR ANY CLARIFICATIONS THAT YOU MAY NEED, WE WANT TO GET WITH THIS ONE ON ONE.

YOU CAN WE JUST WANTED TO GET THIS OUT BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED THE COUNCIL WANTED THIS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY APPARENTLY HAD THIS ISSUE SO IN TEXAS.

BUT WE ARE WE KIND OF TRIED TO TAILOR IT TO A LOT OF OUR STUFF AND I'LL CHECK WITH IT.

I'M PRETTY SURE WE HAVE THAT.

I FORGET THE NAME OF THAT SOFTWARE WE HAVE, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

YEAH, I HAD A FEW THINGS IS WHAT IF YOUR EMAIL IS NOT FUNCTIONAL? MINE IS NOT FUNCTIONAL, I'M USING IT.

BUT IF IT STARTS SHOOTING OUT INAPPROPRIATE CONTENT, I CERTAINLY HOPE SOMEBODY WILL LET ME KNOW IT'S DONE.

YEAH. IF THAT HAPPENS, WE, MIKE HAS TURNED OUR IT PERSON HAS TURNED UP THE FILTERS ON THAT SO THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN EVER AGAIN.

SO YEAH, I DIDN'T LOG ON TODAY FOR A CLASS.

YEAH. THERE'S YEAH.

WE'VE GOT IT PRETTY SQUARED UP HERE RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW ANNA.

SHE GETS EMAILS FROM CONTRACTORS.

I HAVE TO RELEASE THE EMAILS JUST BECAUSE THEY GET CLOGGED UP AND JUST THE WAY IT'S TAILORED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I DO HAVE TO RELEASE THOSE.

SO SHE'LL COME TO ME AND SAY, THE CONTRACTOR SAID, SHE SAID THEY SENT THIS.

SO I GOT TO START LOOKING THROUGH IT AND THEN I RELEASE IT TO HER.

SO YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S A PAIN, BUT IT IS.

WE'VE HAD AND WE'VE MORE OF I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO SECURITY, BUT YEAH, WE DO HAVE WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS TO THE NETWORK THAT PREVENTS A LOT OF THAT STUFF HAPPENING.

STILL GET FAKE LEE ASKING ME FOR MONEY ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S NOT HER EMAIL ADDRESS HERE.

IT'S OH, I THINK I'D RATHER THAT THE OTHER INAPPROPRIATE STUFF THAT GOT SENT OUT GET DIRECT DEPOSIT CHANGES FOR ME TO WAS THE FIRST ONE.

SO THAT WAS SHE DOESN'T GET A PAYCHECK.

YEAH. YEAH.

I'M NOT GOING TO LIKE WE DID HAVE A LITTLE FUN WITH THAT ONE.

I WOULD SAY WITH CHIEF CHEF SENDING ALL THOSE OUT JUST TO SEE IF HE COULD GET ONE.

YOU KNOW, IF FOR ANY REASON THE CITY'S ELECTRONICS ARE NOT FUNCTIONAL, WHAT DO YOU DO? I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PROVISION FOR THAT, WHETHER IT'S DUE TO THE FREEZE OR MALFUNCTIONING OR OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON THE SITUATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S TAKING PLACE.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING GOING, YEAH, YOU'D MAKE AN EXCEPTION AT THAT POINT.

TREY, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? IF LIKE I KNOW MICHAEL WAS COMMUNICATING WITH ME, HE WAS USING HIS SON'S, WHAT, FOUR WHEELER FOUR BY TO CHARGE. YEAH.

YEAH. SO, BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC.

YEAH, WE COULD, WE COULD EVEN ADD A CLAUSE INTO THE POLICY ABOUT IN EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES.

YEAH. THAT, YOU KNOW, EXCEPTIONS CAN BE MADE AND I KNOW THAT I DON'T.

I MEAN THAT'S UP TO EVERYBODY IF THEY WANT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARY.

ONE THING THAT I WOULD SAY, JUST IN GENERAL, IF YOU PUT YOUR EMAIL ON YOUR PHONE BECAUSE WE USE EXCHANGE, IT DOES TAG YOUR PHONE SO YOU CAN PULL THE EXCHANGE SERVERS AND SEE EVERY

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IF YOU PUT YOUR EMAIL ON YOUR PHONE, THEN OUR IT GUY CAN GO INTO EXCHANGE IN THE EVENT THAT SOMEBODY REQUESTS ALL OF THE DEVICES.

WELL, YOUR DEVICE IS ALREADY LISTED THERE BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY SAVES THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU LOGGED ON FROM THIS DEVICE.

YOU LOGGED ON FROM THIS ONE.

IF YOU CHANGE FOUR PHONES IN A YEAR, IT LOGS ALL OF THOSE.

SO IT'S THE IDEAS OF WHAT'S PROTECTED AND WHAT'S NOT.

I MEAN, IT'S ALL OPEN.

WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING IS JUST FORWARDING EVERYTHING TO EMAIL AND THEN FORWARDING IT TO MY CITY EMAILS.

SO WHETHER IT'S A TEXT OR WHATEVER, IT'S THERE.

COMMUNICATIONS AREN'T THAT ENTERTAINING, BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS THEM, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO THEM.

JUST GO THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS.

THERE'S NOTHING THERE THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.

LOOK ON PAGE 128, UNDER DEFINITIONS, ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO EMAILS, TEXT MESSAGES, INTERNET POSTINGS AND INSTANT MESSAGES.

TROY, YOU WERE TELLING ME THAT THERE WAS A LOT ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA THAT IS FAIRLY NEW LAW THAT WE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF.

I MEAN, GENERALLY THE NEW LAW IS THAT, YES, YOU IF YOU ARE USING YOUR FACEBOOK, TWITTER OR INSTAGRAM TO DO CITY BUSINESS, IT BECOMES A CITY RECORD.

SO THE SAFEST THING TO DO IS TO HAVE A PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

IF YOU SO WANT A PERSONAL ACCOUNT, BUT HAVE IT LOCKED DOWN TO JUST YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS AND DON'T HAVE IT REFERENCE YOUR OFFICIAL POSITION WITH THE CITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN IF YOU WANT A FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, SLAUGHTER FOR COUNCIL FACEBOOK PAGE, THEN THAT CAN BE ALL OF YOUR YOUR STUFF. THAT WOULD BE THEN SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS, STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT DOES CONTAIN CITY BUSINESS AND GENERALLY I WOULD AGREE.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE 5000 PEOPLE HERE, SO AND WE ALL LIVE AND SPEND MOST OF OUR TIME HERE.

SO A LOT OF OUR FRIENDS ARE THE RESIDENTS.

FOR INSTANCE, A WATER LEAK ISSUE THAT CAME THROUGH.

I HAD A FACEBOOK MESSAGE ABOUT THAT TO START THAT CONVERSATION.

I SCREENSHOT THAT.

I PUT IT ACTUALLY ON THIS LITTLE FLASH DRIVE HERE THAT HOLDS ALL OF MY STUFF SO THAT IF THERE'S EVER A QUESTION, IT'S THERE.

BUT I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF IT.

WHEN WE SOMEBODY ASKS ABOUT BULK TRASH AND WE ANSWER IT, I SCREENSHOT THAT AND SAVE IT JUST BECAUSE BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY AND I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH AND FIND ALL OF THAT. YEAH, BUT I THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT COMES UP, PARTICULARLY WITH THE FACEBOOK PAGE, UNIQUELY PARKER, BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT THAT'S AN OFFICIAL FACEBOOK.

YEAH. AND IT IS NOT.

SO HOW DO WE DISASSOCIATE OURSELVES OR SHOULD WE BE DISASSOCIATED FROM UNIQUELY PARKER FACEBOOK PAGE? I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN.

WE DON'T. WELL, NO, I DON'T.

WELL, AND THAT WAS THE OTHER THING THAT TREY WAS TELLING ME ABOUT IS THAT, SAY, SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING ON THERE.

WHEN'S BULK TRASH PICKUP? AND I SAY IT'S ON MONDAY.

AND THEN DIANNA COMES ON AND SAYS, OH, WAIT, MY NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S WEDNESDAY.

THEN TERRY COMES.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WALKING QUORUM, YOU JUST GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE IF EVERYBODY LIKES.

SO I USUALLY LET DON'T GET ON THAT.

SO YEAH, YOU KNOW YOU JUST GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN KIND OF WRAP THIS GO THROUGH IT ALL REALLY I GUESS WITH OUR WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

WHAT'S THAT? THE INTERNET SECURITY CLASS THAT WE HAVE TO DO EVERY YEAR.

SO YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SIT THROUGH ANOTHER VIDEO AGAIN, THAT LOVELY 20 MINUTE VIDEO, AND WE CAN WRAP THAT UP INTO THERE TO WITH THAT, JUST TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AT THAT TIME.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS BEFORE WE BRING IT TO FINAL FORM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, LET US KNOW.

THAT WAY WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IT FITS WITHIN THE SECTIONS OR NOT.

IN GENERAL I GET I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD.

I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT PER.

I DON'T THINK WE PURGE, BUT SURE WE DON'T.

WE MAY WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AT SOME POINT, NOT AS A WORKSHOP OR DURING WHATEVER.

ON IN THIS GOES TO YOUR QUESTION, CINDY.

SHOULD THE CITY OF PARKER HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE? MANY CITIES DO NOW.

YOU KNOW, CITY OF MURPHY HAS ONE CITY OF MELISSA, I THINK.

AND, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE HAVE ONE AND MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS THE CITY OF PARKER ONE, AS OPPOSED TO UNIQUELY PARKER? NOW, THAT'S A DECISION WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE ON WHETHER WE WANT TO DO THAT AND CAN WE DO THAT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF WORK

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SO HE'S GOT PLENTY OF TIME.

YEAH, I REALLY HAVE TIME TO KEEP THE WEBSITE.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. WELL, AT THIS TIME, WE WILL CLOSE THE WORKSHOP AND RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE TO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 PERSONNEL TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0711, CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY GOVERNING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION.

GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 TO CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THIS STATE OF TEXAS, CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER.

OPEN RECORD, OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

WE ARE IN RECESS.

IT IS 9:46.

WE ARE NOW RECONVENING THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 19, 2022.

COUNCIL IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, THERE IS NOT.

THERE BEING NO FURTHER ACTION.

THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10:14.

WHAT ARE YOU [INAUDIBLE]

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.