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I HEREBY CALL THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 1ST, 2022 TO ORDER AT THIS TIME,
[CALL TO ORDER]
I'LL ASK MR. OLSON, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YES, MADAM MAYOR, WE DO.OK, THEN I WILL ASK THAT WE STAND FOR THE PLEDGES.
SKIP CAVE, WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS TO LEAD US IN THE AMERICAN PLEDGE AND MIKE SHEFF? WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE? PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
PATTI. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? OK, MOVING RIGHT ALONG SOME ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST?
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
I WILL NOTE THAT PARKS AND RECREATION IS MEETING ON FEBRUARY 9TH IN THIS ROOM AT SIX P.M.THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE IS MEETING ON FEBRUARY 16TH AT SIX P.M.
THE FILING DEADLINE FOR OFFICES IN THE CITY OF PARKER MUNICIPAL OFFICES IS FIVE FIVE P.M.
ON FEBRUARY 18TH, AND THE NEXT FACILITIES MEETING IS SCHEDULED TO BE FEB.
IN THIS ROOM. OH IT MIGHT BE AT THE FIRE STATION.
OK. WE WILL POST WHERE IT WILL BE, BUT IT WILL BE.
OK. THE JUST SO EVERYBODY IS CLEAR.
THE FIRST VOTING BOX IS FOR THE PRIMARY FOR STATEWIDE OFFICES, GOVERNOR, STATE REPS AND LIKE THAT. THE SECOND BOX IS IS HAS TO DO WITH THE MUNICIPAL ELECTION, WHICH IS TO BE ON MAY 7TH. BUT EARLY VOTING WILL START ON APRIL 25TH BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET CONFUSED ON WHICH DATE IS WHAT.
OK. SO WE WILL NOW MOVE TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS. DOO DOO DOO DOO. THERE WE GO.
SEE, I'M TRYING, I'M LEARNING HOW TO DO THIS.
OK? ITEM TWO, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 811 CALLING
[2. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. 811, CALLING AN ELECTION TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 7, 2022 TO ELECT A MAYOR AND TWO (2) CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AT-LARGE; PROVIDING FOR EARLY VOTING; AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A JOINT GENERAL AND SPECIAL ELECTION SERVICES CONTRACT WITH COLLIN COUNTY; PROVIDING FOR THE ORDER AND NOTICE OF THE ELECTION; FINDING AND DETERMINING THAT THE MEETING AT WHICH THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED WAS NOTICED AND IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS REQUIRED BY LAW.]
FOR AN ELECTION TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 7TH, 2022 TO ELECT A MAYOR AND TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AT LARGE, PROVIDING FOR EARLY VOTING.AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A JOINT GENERAL AND SPECIAL ELECTION SERVICE CONTRACT WITH COLLIN COUNTY.
PROVIDING FOR THE ORDER AND THE NOTICE OF THE ELECTION.
FINDING AND DETERMINING THAT THE MEETING AT WHICH THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED WAS NOTICED AND IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS REQUIRED BY LAW.
OK, EVERYBODY, YOU HAD THIS INFORMATION IN YOUR POCKET, INCLUDING THE CONTRACT.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON IT AT THIS TIME? OH OK.
HEARING NONE, I WILL TAKE A MOTION REGARDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 811.
MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE, NO.
811 CALLING FOR AN ELECTION TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 7TH, TO ELECT A MAYOR AND TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AT LARGE, ET CETERA.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, MADAM MAYOR. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 811 AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING ORDINANCE NO.
811, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5-0.
THEY WERE TRYING TO GET ME TO SIGN IT BEFORE YOU ALL AUTHORIZE IN COUNCIL HERE WOULD NOT
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GO FOR IT. OK, NEXT CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION EXCEPTING A DONATION IN[3. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ACCEPTING A DONATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,000 FROM DUANE AND KIM HINSHAW FOR P&R COMMISSION (CHECK #1301). [2022 0111 CC AGENDA ERROR]]
THE AMOUNT OF $1000 FROM DWAYNE AND KIM HINSHAW FOR PARKS AND REC'S COMMISSION.DWAYNE AND KIM HAVE DONATED ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT? MADAM MAYOR, I'LL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE DONATION FROM DWAYNE AND KIM HINSHAW FOR $1000 FOR THE PARKS AND REC'S COMMISSION WITH OUR SINCERE THANKS.
OK. IS THERE A SECOND? I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT A DONATION OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS MADE BY KIM AND DWAYNE HINSHAW FOR THE PARKS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE.
ANY DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THIS DONATION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANYONE OPPOSED? NO MOTION PASSES 5-0.
OK. ITEM NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION ON
[4. DISCUSSION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION ON CANCELING THE MARCH 1, 2022, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, DUE TO 2022 PRIMARY ELECTION DAY VOTING.]
CANCELING THE MARCH 1ST, 2022 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING DUE TO 2022 PRIMARY ELECTION DAY GOING ON IN OUR CHAMBERS AND NOT VOTING DOESN'T END UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK.THAT'S, OF COURSE, IF THERE'S NOT A LINE WAITING TO VOTE, WHICH COULD HAPPEN.
SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE CANCEL THE MARCH ONE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS IDENTIFIED AS NOTED.
OK, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CANCEL THE MARCH 1ST.
OK, I LOST MY PLACE MARCH 1ST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
IS THERE A SECOND? MADAME MAYOR, I MOVE TO SECOND.
OK. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CANCEL THE MARCH 1ST CITY COUNCIL MEETING DUE TO THE PRIMARY ELECTION DAY VOTING GOING ON THAT DATE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
OK, NOW ITEM NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION EXCEPTING THE 2021
[5. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION, ACCEPTING THE 2021 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT AND THE 2021 PARKER PD ANNUAL REPORT.]
RACIAL PROFILING REPORT AND THE 2021 PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL REPORT.AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR. OLSON OR CAPTAIN PRICE IS GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION.
I GOT AN EMAIL HERE FROM CHIEF BROOKS.
I GOT AN EMAIL FROM CHIEF BROOKS.
CHIEF BROOKS IS APOLOGETIC HE COULDN'T BE HERE, HE AND HIS WIFE BOTH HAVE COVID AT THIS TIME. WITH THIS ITEM, WITH CHIEF BROOKS HAS WRITTEN ME IS I'VE REVIEWED THE ATTACHED 2021 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT BY REPORTING THIS INFORMATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND ONCE ACCEPTED IT WILL BE REPORTED TO THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, TCOL.
THIS WILL FULFILL THE TOTALITY OF OUR OBLIGATION AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE AND STATE HOUSE BILL THREE THREE EIGHT NINE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT ME TO READ EVERYTHING HE IDENTIFIED HERE IN THIS.
HE ALSO INCLUDED HIS 2021 ANNUAL REPORT.
THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR OF THE FIVE YEAR ANNUAL REPORT.
HE ALSO PROVIDED WITH THAT THE RACIAL PROFILING.
AND CHIEF BROOKS WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM DIRECTLY, HE CAN BE REACHED BY EMAIL.
WE NEED IT BECAUSE OF THE TIME CONSIDERATION IT HAS TO GET INTO IT.
WE NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS TONIGHT, AND BOTH MYSELF AND CITY ATTORNEY LANSFORD HAVE REVIEWED IT AND WE IT SEEMS LIKE IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CRIMINAL CODE AND TCOL STANDARDS. OK, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS BY ANYBODY AT THIS TIME? THEN I WILL CALL FOR YOUR BAR MOTION.
MADAM MAYOR? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE 2021 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT IN THE 2021 PARKER PD ANNUAL REPORT. OK.
IS THERE A SECOND? MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO SECOND.
OK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND TO ACCEPT THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT AND THE 2021 PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL REPORT.
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NOT HEARING ANY? I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THESE ITEMS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANYONE OPPOSED? NOT HEARING ANY, MOTION PASSES 5-0.
[6. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2022-693 CONFIRMING THE CONCLUSION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF AN INTERIM MUNICIPAL ATTORNEY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]
CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-693 CONFIRMING THE CONCLUSION OF THE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SAY THIS AGAIN, CONFIRMING THE CONCLUSION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF AN INTERIM MUNICIPAL ATTORNEY AND PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.AS ALL OF YOU ALL KNOW SCOTT LEVINE WAS APPOINTED AS OUR INTERIM ATTORNEY.
WE NOW HAVE TREY LANSFORD HERE AS OUR FULL TIME CITY ATTORNEY AND WE NEED TO CONCLUDE MR. LEVINE SERVICES AS OUR INTERIM AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS AS SOON AS YOUR VOTE.
IF YOU VOTE TO DO THIS, OK? I'D TAKE A MOTION.
MADAM MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-693 TO TERMINATE THE SERVICES OF MR. LEVINE, SINCE WE HAVE A FULL TIME ATTORNEY.
OK. IS THERE A SECOND? MADAME MAYOR, I MOVE TO SECOND.
OK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-693.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MADAME MAYOR, DO WE NEED TO AMEND TO INCLUDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND STATE THAT IN THE MOTION AS WELL, SINCE IT'S CALLING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE? I BELIEVE THAT IS.
IF YOU'RE, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE MOTION IS THAT IT'S TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS IT'S CONTAINED IN THE BACKUP.
AND SO BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THAT, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
OK? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? OK, THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022-693, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANYONE OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, MOTION PASSES 5-0.
[7. UPDATE(S): ANY COMMITTEE UPDATES, AS NEEDED. ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF DUE TO COVID-19 FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $500). [PETTLE] Kathy Harvey donated several boxes of Girl Scout Cookies valued at $50.00]
NEXT, WE HAVE COMMITTEE UPDATES.I UNDERSTAND DIANA, YOU HAVE AN UPDATE FOR JUST A VERY BRIEF ONE.
MADAM MAYOR. AS WE ALL KNOW, THE IMPENDING ICE ARMAGEDDON STORM IS HEADING TO PARKER.
HOPEFULLY, SOME NOT REALLY, HOPEFULLY, BUT SOMETIME THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT IF NEEDED, WE WILL BE DEPLOYING EVERBRIDGE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE RESIDENTS ANYTHING AS NEEDED THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT ANY CITY, CITY FUNCTIONING AND RESIDENTS. THAT'S IT.
OK, AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK MR. OLSON AND MR. MACHADO TO EDUCATE US ON WHAT PREPARATIONS THE CITY HAS TAKEN AND PUT INTO PLACE FOR THE COMING WINTER EVENT.
WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO LOADS NOW OF SAND, I BELIEVE.
OK, SO WE'LL BE HERE TOMORROW MORNING WITH THE TWO LOADS OF SAND.
WE'RE GOING TO HIT THOSE BRIDGES AREAS AND THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE SHARP BANKS AND EVERYTHING. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO FILLED UP ALL OF OUR KEROSENE TANKS.
YEAH, AS MUCH AS WE CAN BE PREPARED.
AT THIS TIME, I NOTICED ON THE EVENING NEWS THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY SHUTTING DOWN.
DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE SHUTTING THE CITY DOWN THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, OR MAYBE EVEN AS EARLY AS THREE O'CLOCK TOMORROW, SO PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO GET HOME BEFORE THE ICE HITS BECAUSE SOME OF OUR WONDERFUL EMPLOYEES DO NOT LIVE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE CITY OF PARKER. SO WHAT SAY, YOU ALL? I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO PUT ANYONE IN DANGER, SO THERE'S NO REASON I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A PLAN TO SHUT DOWN EARLY.
WE CAN DO REMOTE TO THURSDAY, FRIDAY IF THAT'S OK WITH COUNCIL.
WE'VE GOT THE CAPABILITIES WITH ANSWERING TELEPHONES AND EVERYTHING AND EMAILING AND EVERYTHING ELSE THROUGH OUR SYSTEM.
SO IF THAT'S OK WITH COUNCIL THAT WAY.
THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED. THAT WAY, THE WORLD DOESN'T STOP, IF SOMEBODY REALLY HAS A NEED FOR INFORMATION, THEY CAN GET IT.
THAT'S CORRECT. AND ALSO ON OUR CITY WEBSITE, WE'VE PUT THE ENCORE RELEASED A NEW STATEMENT. IT'S GOT THE INFORMATION IF YOU WANT TO DOWNLOAD THE APP FOR OUTAGES AND STUFF
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LIKE THAT AND THE PHONE NUMBERS.SO IF YOU DO SAY, YOU KNOW, BRANCHES FALL ON YOUR LINES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN NOTIFY THEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN THEY SAID THEY WOULD.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING 24/7 DURING THIS EVENT.
SO DO YOU KNOW IF REPUBLIC WASTE IS GOING TO HAVE TRASH SERVICE ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.
I'M STILL HERE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM RICKY AND HIS EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER ON THAT.
WE DID POST SOMETHING ON MONDAY MORNING ONCE THEY ACTIVATED IT.
AS SOON AS WE DO FIND SOMETHING OUT, I'LL GIVE RICK A CALL TOMORROW AROUND LUNCHTIME AND SEE WHAT THEIR DETERMINATION IS AT THIS POINT, AND THEN WE'LL POST IT ONLINE AND SEND IT OUT. OK, CAN YOU ALSO DO AN E BLAST, TOO? YEAH, WE'LL E BLAST IT AND GO THAT ROUTE.
YES, MA'AM. AND IF SOMEONE COULD POST IT ON FACEBOOK, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AFTER WE DO IT.
YEAH, IT SEEMS TO GET MORE ATTENTION THAN THE WEBSITE.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON THAT.
OK, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR THINGS THAT WERE MISSING ON THIS WEEK? WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. I KNOW THAT CHIEF SHEFF AND I'M ASSUMING CAPTAIN PRICE EVERYTHING'S GOOD WITH THE FIRE AND POLICE.
GARY, EVERYTHING'S GOOD WITH PUBLIC? YOU GOT YOUR AIR MATTRESS READY? OK. OK.
ANY OTHER COMMITTEE UPDATES AT THIS TIME? JUST WANTED TO UPDATE ON THE RFQ COMMITTEE DID MEET AFTER COUNCIL AGREED TO GO OUT FOR THAT. WE HAVE MADE ALTERATIONS TO THE RFQ, WHICH HAS NOW BEEN SENT BACK TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR, WHO WAS KIND ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE FOR US, AND THAT SHOULD BE POSTED FAIRLY SOON.
YES, IT'S A, SO WE SHOULD HAVE THAT OUT.
SO HOPEFULLY BY 30 DAYS FROM THE DAY OF POSTING, WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE TO COUNCIL FOR THAT AS WELL. OK.
COMP PLAN IS STILL ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT? OK, NEXT MEETING. ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? YES, MADAM MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM MEYER WANTED AN UPDATE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR AND KIND OF THE HISTORY OF THE COMP PLAN.
WE'VE GOT A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ON THAT.
IT'S PROBABLY IT'LL INCLUDE THE RFQ INFORMATION.
WE WON'T HAVE ANY BIDS BACK BY THAT POINT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE KIND OF AN UP TO THAT DATE.
ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, FOR THE RECORD, THAT CATHY HARVEY DONATED SEVERAL BOXES OF GIRL SCOUT COOKIES VALUED AT FIFTY DOLLARS TO THE CITY.
WE THANK MISS HARVEY FOR THAT.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON YOUR FUTURE AGENDA SHEET, WE ARE GETTING HOPEFULLY CAUGHT UP AND HAVE
[8. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
EVERYTHING ON THERE CORRECTLY.IF YOU NEED TO ADD ANYTHING, HAVE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. AND IF YOUR NAME IS BY SOMETHING AND YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT OR SOMETHING YOU HAD ON HERE DROPPED OFF.
LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS IS ACCURATE AND UP TO DATE AS POSSIBLE.
SO BECAUSE THE ONE THING I HAVE ON HERE THAT IS ON THE GRADE STEP PROGRAM, I BELIEVE THAT IS MR. SAVAGE AS WELL AS MR. LANCE. NOT HEARING ANY COMMENTS THERE.
OK, THEN AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND I HOPE THIS WILL WORK.
I WAS TALKING IN A MEETING WITH LUKE AND MR. LANSFORD AND MYSELF, AND I THINK CINDY WAS THERE ALSO ABOUT WE NEEDED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON SEVERAL THINGS BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS THEM.
AND GOSH, IT WAS GOING TO BE HELL TRYING TO GET A TIME WE COULD ALL GET TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT'S AN ACT OF CONGRESS.
AND TREY SAID, WHY DON'T YOU JUST HAVE IT IN THE MEETING? IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME.
WE COULD DO THIS, SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY THIS AT THIS TIME.
[9. DICUSSION ITEMS TRASH AND BULK TRASH ORDINANCE UPDATE PARK RULES COMPLAINTS REGARDING ANIMAL SALES WITHIN THE SPECIAL ACTIVITY DISTRICT AGENDA, PACKET, AND MINUTES]
AND THE FIRST THING UP IS TRASH AND TRASH ORDINANCE UPDATE.AS YOU ALL ARE ALL AWARE, [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE NEW CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC WASTE, THE TRASH SERVICES CHANGED TO THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, AND BULK TRASH AND BRUSH IS NOW PICKED UP ON YOUR REGULAR ON YOUR, ONCE A MONTH ON YOUR REGULAR TRASH DAY.
IF YOU'RE IF I'M LOOKING AT JIM, SPRING HILL STATE IS THE LAST FRIDAY OF THE MONTH.
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I THINK IT IS. AND PEOPLE STARTED CONTACTING ME AND I SUSPECT SOME OF YOU ALL ABOUT WHEN CAN WE PUT STUFF OUT? I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE IT OUT FROM FRIDAY TO FRIDAY, BUT I WANT TO HAVE A WEEKEND.BUT NO, I WANTED NO MORE THAN WEDNESDAY TO FRIDAY GUESSES.
WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT TO DO, IF ANYTHING? AND JUST SOME BACKGROUND, SOME OF THE CITIES WE'VE RESEARCHED.
THEY DO ALLOW LIKE BRUSH TO GO OUT LIKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS AHEAD OF BEFORE BULK ITEMS, LIKE IF YOU'RE PUTTING A WASHING MACHINE OUT THERE FOR THEM TO PICK UP WASHING MACHINE WOULD BE LIKE 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
LIKE YOUR BRUSH AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE.
OTHER CITIES HAVE LIKE SACHSE, MURPHY, A COUPLE OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES.
WHEN WE RESEARCHED IT, IT WAS KIND OF ALL OVER THE BOARD, TO BE HONEST, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT. SO WE WERE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK.
ANYTHING FROM A FUNCTIONAL STANDPOINT, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THE BRUSH, LIKE YOU SAY, I KNOW FOR MYSELF, I DO A LOT OF THAT MYSELF, AND SOMETIMES IT'S MORE THAN A ONE DAY EVENT.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF, I GUESS, DEBRIS OUT IN OUR STREET WAYS.
BUT IF WE FRAME IT SUCH THAT MAYBE THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF A GRACE PERIOD THAT YOU CAN DO THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, WASHING MACHINES AND OTHER LARGE PIECES OF APPLIANCES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ENFORCE IT ALSO.
HOW HAS COMPLIANCE BEEN WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE? BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT IT'S A DOMINO EFFECT.
IF ONE PERSON VIOLATES THE TIME FRAME AND PUTS IT OUT, THEN YOU START SEEING A MYRIAD OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE SAME THING? I THINK WE'VE HAD A COUPLE, GARY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE THAT WE'VE HAD TO SEND LETTERS TO AND TALK TO.
BUT I THINK THAT WAS JUST NOT CHECKING THE SCHEDULES.
YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST MONTH, IT'S ACTUALLY WENT QUITE WELL.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANY REALLY ISSUES SINCE WE SWITCHED TO IT, THIS METHOD, LIKE WE DID BEFORE. BUT AS FAR AS I THINK WE'VE HAD ABOUT, I HATE GUESSING, AND I THINK ABOUT FIVE OR SIX, IF I REMEMBER, RIGHT, GARY.
AND IT WAS JUST HIS BRUSH, I THINK IS WHAT IT WAS THAT WE'RE JUST PUTTING IT OUT A WEEK OR TWO TOO EARLY.
SO THE CONCERN THAT CAME TO ME FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE IS I DON'T WANT BRUSH OUT THERE.
IT WASN'T SO MUCH THE BULK, IT WAS THE BRUSH.
I DON'T WANT IT OUT THERE, THE RATS AND RODENTS AND IT'S HORRIBLE.
I'M TRYING TO SELL MY HOUSE AND I CAN'T DO IT.
DO NOT ALLOW IT TO SIT OUT THERE FOR A WEEK.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE SAYING, BUT I NEED A WEEKEND.
YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE BEST? I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A QUESTION.
HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO ANALYZE LIKE WHAT TIMES OF THE YEAR LIKE, YOU KNOW, DURING SPRINGTIME, DURING CERTAIN WEEKENDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE DOING SPRING CLEANING OR IN THE FALL.
AND MAYBE WE CAN TAILOR IT TO SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT TIME WHERE WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY, WHERE THERE'S A MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE PUTTING THE BRUSH OUT BECAUSE OF THE CLEANING AND THEN FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A STRINGENT POLICY THAT WAY WE CAN ACCOMMODATE.
I DON'T KNOW. THAT MIGHT BE MORE WORK, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO TRY TO SEEING LIKE AROUND MARCHES WHEN PEOPLE START CLEANING UP THE YARD, STARTING TO GET FLOWERS PUT IN.
AND THEN, DEPENDING ON WHEN THE FIRST COLD SNAP COMES, IT COULD BE SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER.
I THINK THIS YEAR WE SAW IN NOVEMBER THAT FIRST COLD SNAP.
SO, YOU KNOW, LEAVES AREN'T LEAVING THE TREES, SO IT COULD BE A MOVING TARGET WITH THAT.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DO BAG LEAVES AND STILL PUT THEM OUT.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE DURING DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, WHERE THE DAYS ARE LONGER AND PEOPLE COME HOME FROM WORK, THEY STILL HAVE TIME TO GET THINGS OUT TO THE STREET AND MAYBE GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, A FEW DAYS GRACE PERIOD.
BUT THEN IN THE WINTER MONTHS, LIKE NOW, MAYBE THE WEEKEND BEFORE, I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF BRUSH, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET IT DONE IN AN HOUR OR TWO.
YEAH, I STRUGGLE WITH BEING TOO STRINGENT AS FAR AS A CITY AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ORDINANCES FOR TRASH PICKUP.
YEAH, I CAN UNDERSTAND THINGS LIKE REFRIGERATORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SITTING OUT FOR LONG PERIODS, BUT A WEEK IS NOT THAT LONG OF A PERIOD.
AND SO I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THIS ANY MORE STRINGENT.
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AND, YOU KNOW, BUT PERHAPS AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, WE COULD HAVE A REPORT OF HOW MANY VIOLATIONS THERE ARE AND HOW MANY FINES.I DON'T LIKE THE YEAH, I DON'T LIKE THIS.
BUT YEAH, ARE WE ENFORCING THINGS OR ARE WE SEEING THE SAME PEOPLE DOING THIS? YOU KNOW, DOING THIS, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT.
IT THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME, HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS CAN, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE THE MAIN ARBITER IF PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEIR AREA SHOULD BE MORE CLEANED, PICKED UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT AS A CITY, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S REALLY THE ROLE WE SHOULD BE PUSHING TOO MUCH TO SOME EXTENT, YES.
BUT YET HOW MUCH I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL THERE.
TRUE, NEAL, A LOT OF THE CITY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE SYCAMORE DUBLIN ROAD.
I WOULD ARGUE THAT PEOPLE WHO MOVE INTO THOSE AREAS, THOUGH THEY UNDERSTAND THEY DON'T HAVE HOAS. THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I USUALLY HAVE AND WE HAVE OTHER WAYS TO ENFORCE IT IS WHEN THE ITEMS GO OUT THERE TOO EARLY, THEY END UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY.
DUBLIN IS ONE. SYCAMORE'S ONE.
BRANCHES END UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY.
SUDDENLY, YOU HAVE VEHICLES HAVING TO SWERVE AROUND ON ROADS THAT ALREADY HAVE THEIR ISSUES, SO.
BUT I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH ON THE IDEA THAT I DON'T WANT TO BECOME SO RESTRICTIVE AT THIS POINT.
IF WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL AS IT IS, I DON'T WANT OUR RESIDENTS HAVING TO CUT THEIR TREES IN THE DARK OR HAVING TO PULL OUT THEIR BRANCHES IN THE DARK TO TRY TO TO MAKE THAT FUNCTION, TO FUNCTION TO SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HERE.
WE ARE THE ONES WHO CHANGE THE DATE OF BULK PICKUP.
I STILL HAVE MY DOUBTS WHETHER THEY'LL MAINTAIN THAT SCHEDULE.
SO WHO KNOWS WHETHER THEY'LL ACTUALLY CONTINUE TO PICK UP ON THOSE DAYS? I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO TRY, BUT WE'VE SEEN HOW TRASH GOES.
MY POSITION IS, I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT, THE ORDINANCE PROBABLY SHOULD SIT THE WAY THAT IT IS, AND WE REEVALUATE THIS AFTER A SPRING SEASON TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY ISSUES FROM ANY OF THIS OR IF WE'RE HAVING COMPLIANCE ISSUES AS IT SITS.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, AND I THINK WE HAVE PROVISIONS IN THERE, IF THERE'S AN EVENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN THERE'S THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF A RELAXATION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT COULD BE DIFFICULT TO GET TAKEN CARE OF IF THERE'S AN EVENT IN THE EVENT OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE HAVING THIS FREEZE OR YEAH, I THINK LAST YEAR, THE BULK OF THE BULK OF ISSUES WAS AFTER THE FREEZE, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS CLEANING UP AFTER AFTER THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT.
BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE EVERYBODY.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE AS A CITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A SENSITIVITY ON THE OTHER END OF RESIDENTS WHO DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT ALL THE TIME.
SO MAYBE WE LOOK AT BECAUSE OUR ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALLOW US TO SUSPEND IT, BUT MAYBE WE LOOK AT AMENDING IT TO ALLOW THE MAYOR OR CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO SUSPEND THE ORDINANCE DUE TO A NATURAL DISASTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR A PERIOD OF SO MANY DAYS. I STILL THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF TIME LIMIT BECAUSE I LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION THE DAY AFTER THEY PICK UP.
SO I MEAN, TO BE REASONABLE, IF IT WAS SIX DAYS PRIOR, THAT WOULD GIVE THEM IF LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, GIVES THEM THE WEEKEND.
I THINK THIS ONE STARTS ON THURSDAY, SO THEY HAVE THE THURSDAY PRIOR TO THE BULK TRASH PICKUP WEEK, THEY CAN START PUTTING STUFF OUT.
THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE.
RIGHT, I'M SAYING BACK IT UP TO THE WEEKENDS.
YOU KNOW, STARTED WITH SATURDAY TO THURSDAY OR SATURDAY.
I THINK ABOUT FIVE DAYS, IT JUST SETTING A STANDARD OF MAYBE FIVE DAYS AND THEN HAVING IT CHANGE BASED ON A WEATHER EVENT OR WHATEVER.
IF THAT'S NEEDED, THEN THAT CAN BE AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION.
OK, JIM, DID YOU HAVE SOME? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT SINCE THE PICKUPS ARE DIFFERENT DAYS FOR DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS THAN A ONE, SIZE FITS ALL CAN BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT; RIGHT? THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, I GUESS, RIGHT? SO, YEAH, SO UNLESS YOU HAVE THE WEEKEND BEFORE, YOU SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO.
YEAH, AND IN THE UNKNOWN VARIABLE IS REPUBLIC WASTE FEELS THAT THEY CAN DO ON THURSDAY ALL THE THURSDAYS AND ON FRIDAY ALL THE FRIDAYS.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW SO FAR SO GOOD UNTIL THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PICK UP TRASH, ACCORDING TO THEIR SCHEDULE, BECAUSE THEY HAD A STAFF SHORTAGE.
SO I MEAN, SOMETHING CAN ALWAYS COME UP WITH OUR TRASH PEOPLE.
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JUST I MEAN, THAT HAPPEN, WHAT, TWO WEEKS AGO.I WOULD SAY THAT THE FIVE DAYS, THE ONLY CONCERN IS PEOPLE FOR FRIDAY.
THEY DON'T REALLY GET A WEEKEND AT THAT POINT.
OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT OUT THERE NECESSARILY ENFORCING THIS ON THE WEEKEND.
I THINK MAYBE LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM SAYS, WE START SATURDAY AND GIVE EVERYBODY FROM SATURDAY, TO THE SATURDAY BEFORE THEIR PICKUP.
THEY CAN START PUTTING STUFF OUT.
YEAH, AND THEN WE PUT A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO SUSPEND THIS DUE TO A NATURAL DISASTER OR SOMETHING THAT COMES UP THAT THE CITY SEES FIT, OK? AND THAT WOULD APPLY TO.
A BRUSH NOT TO WASHING MACHINES AND COMMODES.
WE COULD GO WITH 24-48 HOURS OR FORTY EIGHT HOURS MAX.
48 HOURS BECAUSE THAT'S MORE OF A SAFETY ISSUE, TOO.
I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY IS PUTTING OUT THEIR REFRIGERATOR OR SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HEAVY OUT THERE AND THEN THERE'S A WIND EVENT, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GOT TO, YOU KNOW, THREE HUNDRED POUNDS REFRIGERATOR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
AND YOU KNOW, SO I THINK 48 HOURS IS.
I THINK PEOPLE IN OUR AREA APPRECIATE PUTTING THINGS OUT EARLY BECAUSE AND I SEE THERE'S AN ORDINANCE FOR PICKING UP THINGS THAT ARE RECYCLABLE.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE PUT OUT FOR THIS TRASH THAT PEOPLE PICK UP.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO MOVE THINGS AROUND IN, YOU KNOW, IN A FREE WORLD.
AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH LIMITING IT TO SO FEW, YOU KNOW, SO LITTLE BIT OF A TIME THAT PEOPLE CAN PUT THINGS OUT.
IS SIX DAYS, IS THAT? YOU THINK THAT'S TOO LIMITING? WELL, I DON'T SEE THE REASON TO THE NEED FOR CHANGING IT.
IT'S THURSDAY NOW? AND IF WE LET THEM PUT IT OUT 48 HOURS BEFOREHAND, THAT WOULD BE TUESDAY, MONDAY OR? WEDNESDAY. YEAH, YEAH, TUESDAY.
SO IT WOULD GO OUT TUESDAY TO BE PICKED UP ON THURSDAY ON BULK.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK OUT OF TOWN.
YOU KNOW, THEY GO OUT ON SUNDAY AND YEAH, IF THEY CAN'T PUT IT OUT FOR THE WEEKEND.
YEAH, WELL, ONE OF THE TIMES I HAD MORE COMPLAINTS IN MY ENTIRE TIME HERE IS WHEN SOMEBODY PUT OUT A JOHN ON DUBLIN ROAD AND IT WAS OUT THERE SO LONG.
THE BICYCLERS THANKED US FOR PROVIDING THE FACILITY FOR THEM, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.
SO IT WASN'T WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.
YES, IT WAS. BUT IT WAS STILL OUT THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
IT WAS OUT FOR WHAT WAS IT, TEN DAYS? WHATEVER THE ORDINANCE CALLED FOR.
I GUESS THERE WAS ANOTHER TOILET THAT I'M RECALLING BECAUSE I RECALL ONE THAT WAS OUT FOR MONTHS, BUT.
THAT WAS BEFORE THIS ORDINANCE, I THINK.
WE DID HAVE ONE THAT WAS OUT THERE, ALMOST.
THERE WERE PHOTOS ALL OVER FACEBOOK, AND PEOPLE WOULD STOP AND TAKE A PICTURE OF THE TOILET. AND THEN YOU HAD THAT IN YOUR SUBDIVISION, WHERE A JOHN WAS OUT ALMOST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
AND IT WENT OUT THE DAY AFTER THEY PICKED UP THE BULK.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT DEFINITELY NEED TO BE TRIMMED UP BECAUSE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
I CAN SEE HOW PEOPLE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT UPSET TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT.
THAT IS STARTING TO GO OUT ON WEEKENDS NOW AND STARTING TO TAKE PICTURES AND SENDING OUT LETTERS MONDAY MORNING.
ONCE YOU GET EVERYTHING SQUARED UP.
SO, SO MAYBE WE COULD WORD IT IN A WAY THAT SAYS, IF NECESSARY, YOU CAN START PUTTING YOUR BRUSH OUT THE WEEKEND PRIOR TO YOUR PICKUP.
IS THAT WAY IF IF PEOPLE ARE HOME AND THEY CAN PUT IT OUT, YOU KNOW, A DAY BEFORE TWO DAYS BEFORE THEY'LL STILL DO THAT RATHER THAN HAVE IT SIT OUT THERE FOR A WEEK.
BUT IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WORKS LONG HOURS OR TRAVELS OR WHATEVER, THEY HAVE THE PRIOR WEEKEND TO PUT THE THE BULK TRASH, NOT THE BULK TRASH THE BRUSH OUT.
OK, NOW TERRY WHAT? WHAT DID YOU WANT TO DO ON NOT TO BRUSH THE BULK? PRESENTLY, THEY'RE THE SAME; AREN'T THEY? YEAH, I WOULD LEAVE THEM THE SAME.
WHICH THEY ALL? OR MAYBE I SHOULD ASK TREY WHO WOULD BE CHARGED WITH WRITING UP AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION? WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST? HOW WOULD YOU WORD IT?
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JUMP IN. YEAH, AS I JUMP IN MY FIRST EVENING HERE, I WILL, I GUESS, START BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE POLICY DECISION IS COUNCIL'S TO MAKE, AND IT'S THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL THAT WE CAN GET IN THIS WORK SESSION OF.YOU KNOW WHAT THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL IS IS BASED ON WHAT THE MAJORITY OF YOU WANT TO DO.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE A WEEKEND FOR BRUSH AND MAYBE ABOUT 48 HOURS FOR LIGHT BULK, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD.
YES. SO CURRENTLY, AS OF NOW, YOU KNOW, I READ THIS BEFORE, AND I'VE READ IT THREE TIMES, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE ACTUALLY CONTRADICTS ITSELF.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT IT'S A VIOLATION THURSDAY PRIOR TO THE MONDAY, BUT THEN IT SAYS YOU CAN'T DO IT BEFORE THE MONDAY OF THE WEEK OF.
BUT THERE'S NO VIOLATION BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AFTER THE THURSDAY.
SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP, BUT I THINK THAT PUTTING THEM TOGETHER WILL PROBABLY PUT LESS STRESS ON OUR STAFF BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. I DIDN'T REALIZE I THOUGHT WHEN BULK WENT OUT, BRUSH CAN GO OUT. WHEN BRUSH CAN GO OUT, BULK CAN GO OUT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE CONFUSING AND CONVOLUTED TO TRY TO SEPARATE THEM.
OK. WELL, YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE IF WE FOLLOW UP ON IT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE STRAGGLERS LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM MEYER WAS SAYING.
I THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE OK WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE RUN INTO IN THE PAST. I KNOW IN MY SUBDIVISION, IN SPRING HILL, SAME SITUATION.
YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE HUGE AMOUNTS OF BULK STUFF OUT THERE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S HUGE AMOUNTS TWO DAYS AFTER THE DAY OF PICKUP.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IN SOME CASES PRIOR IS THEY WOULD COME AROUND AND THEY WOULD PICK UP AGAIN. AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT EITHER.
SO I THINK THAT IF WE ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE AS IT SAID, THE RESOLUTION AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
AND MAYBE IT'LL WE JUST DO A GOOD JOB COMMUNICATING THAT AS WELL, MAYBE IN THE NEWSLETTER AND COMMUNICATING IT AS COUNCIL PEOPLE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND JUST, YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE TO BUY IT.
AND I THINK THAT WILL BE A STEP FORWARD AND THEN EVERYBODY CAN ADHERE TO THAT.
AND IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM AFTER THAT AND WE NEED TO TWEAK IT, THEN IT WON'T BE SO CONVOLUTED HAVING THEM AND SAYING.
OK, CLEAN UP THAT ORDINANCE TO CLEAN UP THAT ORDINANCE.
DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD ADD A PROVISION IN THERE THAT ALLOWS FOR SUSPENSION OF IT IN THE EVENT OF A DISASTER FOR BRUSH? I AGREE. I CAN'T SEE A DISASTER THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO PUT A TOILET OUT EARLY, BUT BRUSH I COULD SEE. THEY GET HIT BY A TORNADO.
WELL, I THINK THE TORNADO WOULD PUT THE BRUSH OUT THERE, [INAUDIBLE] AT THAT POINT.
I THINK THE TORNADO WOULD BE THE ONE THAT PUTS THE BULK OUT AT THAT POINT.
YEAH, IT COULD HAPPEN, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE THE PROVISIONS TO ALLOW THE MAYOR TO SUSPEND IT, THEN I MEAN THAT OR CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO SUSPEND IT, THEN I THINK THAT COVERS THAT.
BUT I DO AGREE WE HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE THE WEEKEND PRIOR.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE THE THURSDAY.
IF WE GO SATURDAY, I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO ABIDE BY THAT.
AND ALSO TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE BULK, IF THE TOILET'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, THAT WHICHEVER RESIDENT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING IT BACK IN COMPLIANCE WITH MAKING SURE ITS 25 FEET.
WE HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE SAYS LESS THAN 25 FEET FROM THE EDGE AND 10 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE ROAD. SOME OF OUR ROADS JUST AREN'T THAT WIDE.
YEAH, WE'LL GET WITH GARY AND COME UP WITH A REASONABLE IF THAT'S OK WITH COUNCIL AND REASONABLE DISTANCE.
SO WHEN YOU'VE GOT CERTAIN AREAS WHERE YOU'VE GOT CERTAIN AREAS, SOME OF THE NEWER SUBDIVISIONS, YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE ISSUES.
THAT'S WHERE YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF FENCES.
YEAH, EXACTLY THAN THAT STREET.
SO TEN FEET FROM THE STREET? YEAH, YEAH. OK, COUNCIL, DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH INFORMATION TO COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION ORDINANCE? IT DOES. WE'LL WORK ON THAT AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION A WHILE BACK, ASKED US TO CONSIDER BANNING SMOKING AND OR VAPING. I FIGURED THAT WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT OR CONSIDERING THAT WE MIGHT AS WELL LOOK AT ALL OF THE RULES AND SEE IF WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THEM BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THEM SINCE, I THINK 2017.
SO MY QUESTION ON SMOKING IS IF WE BAN SMOKING.
HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THAT?
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DO YOU HAVE AN OFFICER THAT COULD DO NOTHING BUT STAY IN THE PILE? OK? LET IT REFLECT THAT, CAPTAIN PRICE SAID NO.YEAH. BUT THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A SIGN THAT BANS IT WILL DETER MOST PEOPLE FROM USING TOBACCO OR I'M NOT SURE VAPING IS A DIFFERENT CATEGORY AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, BUT MOST PEOPLE WILL ADHERE TO IT, I WOULD THINK.
I GUESS I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS ON THAT IT'S OUTDOORS.
I MEAN, IT'S I DON'T KNOW IF ANOTHER CITY THAT REALLY BANS THAT UNLESS THAT I CAN THINK OF, I GET THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT.
IF WE HAD AN INDOOR FACILITY, I WOULD SEE DOING IT THERE.
IF WE HAD A PAVILION, NOT ON THE PAVILION, YOU KNOW, NOT MAYBE NEAR THE BARN.
SO IT DOESN'T GO UP IN FLAMES.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE THAT ON.
THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE IS THAT WAS, WAS SMOKING, TRADITIONAL SMOKING, CIGARETTES OR CIGARS OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
WELL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PART, BUT ALSO JUST OVERALL LITTER.
YOU HAVE CIGARETTE BUTTS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT GETS AND IT DOES LOOK KIND OF UGLY AND IT TENDS TO KIND OF SOIL THE WHOLE AREA.
SO THERE IS THERE SOME AREAS IN PARKS WHERE SOMETIMES THEY TRY TO RESTRICT THAT, THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW.
YOU CAN HAVE REPOSITORIES TO KIND OF TRY TO ADHERE TO THAT, BUT PRO TEM MYERS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO THAT YOU SAY NO SMOKING, THEN THAT RESTRICTS THAT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT SO WHEN I WAS ON PARKS AND RECS, WE DID THE CLEANUPS.
I DON'T EVER RECALL SEEING, I MEAN, I COULD SEE THAT THAT COULD BECOME AN ISSUE.
I NEVER RECALL SEEING, WE HAD ALL KINDS OF TRASH IN THERE, BUT NOT REALLY CIGARETTE BUTTS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEVER RAN INTO, AND ALL THE TIMES I'VE BEEN THERE, I CAN'T RECALL EVER SEEING ANYBODY SMOKE THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE A MUTE POINT EITHER WAY. I CAN'T THINK OF ANY TIME I'VE BEEN THERE THAT I'VE SEEN SOMEBODY SMOKING WHILE THEY'RE WALKING THROUGH THE PARK.
IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING I'VE SEEN, BUT I, JUST AGAIN, I KIND OF I'M GOING TO STEAL COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH'S POINT OF SOMETIMES WE START TO OVERREGULATE SOME THINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT WE CAN'T REALLY ENFORCE BECAUSE IT'LL BE TOUGH AND VAPES.
I AGREE THAT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.
AND THOUGH I'M NOT A SMOKER, I'M NOT A VAPOR.
I THINK AS LONG AS WE BAN WHICH IT ALREADY IS, ANY UNLAWFUL ITEMS THERE, THEN THE PD WOULD HANDLE THAT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD ENFORCE IT.
AND COUNCILMAN SLAUGHTER, I CERTAINLY WASN'T SUGGESTING THAT WE WOULD DO THAT OR HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO IT, I WAS JUST BRINGING OUT THAT THAT COULD BE IN SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM THEN.
I DON'T SEE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO, IF WE NEED TO DO IS WE CAN INVITE PARKS AND RECS TO COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING AND EXPLAIN THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS.
I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW HOW THIS CAME UP.
DID YOU TALK TO I TALKED TO BILLY.
I THINK IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY WHEN I TALKED TO BILLY, I THINK IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THEY WERE REVIEWING AND THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IS WHAT I BASICALLY GOT OUT OF IT.
MICHAEL, I THINK YOU WERE AT [INAUDIBLE].
I THINK IT WAS RIGHT AFTER YOU WERE ELECTED.
YEAH. SO, YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE LIKE IT'S UNLAWFUL TO DISCHARGE FIREARMS, FIREWORKS, YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING WITH A FIRE IN IT.
WE'VE GOT IT BANNED AT THIS POINT.
SO YOU KNOW, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.
THE ONE NOTICE THAT I DID HAVE IS WE HAVE THE PROVISION IT'S UNLAWFUL TO CARRY A FIREARM UNLESS YOU'RE A PEACE OFFICER OR DULY LICENSED.
THE STATE HAS REMOVED THAT PROVISION.
I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO REMOVE SAID PROVISION.
IF YOU'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO CARRY A FIREARM, I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CARRY A FIREARM. SO I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
IF IT'S A CITY MUNICIPAL AREA, THEN YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CARRY A FIREARM, EVEN IF YOU DO HAVE A CONCEALED CARRY.
THAT'S NOT ACCURATE. NO, YOU CAN CARRY ON A MUNICIPAL PROPERTY.
THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN'T CARRY LIKE HERE, IS WHEN COURT IS IN SESSION.
YOU CANNOT CARRY ON A COURT OR WHEN COURT IS IN SESSION.
I THINK IT'S FEDERAL. NOW YOU CAN'T CARRY ON FEDERAL PROPERTY UNLESS IT'S ALLOWED, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN PARTS THAT WILL ALLOW IT OUTSIDE, BUT THEY DON'T ALLOW IT IN FEDERAL BUILDINGS, BUT YOU CAN CARRY A FIREARM ON MUNICIPAL PROPERTY.
BUT THE PROVISION, THOUGH THERE IS STILL A LICENSE, THAT PROVISION NO LONGER EXISTS.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT UPDATING THAT.
AND IT DOES SAY AS AMENDED, SO LET US TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING AMENDED UNDER THAT CHAPTER H.
YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF IT JUST WE HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT WAS DRAWN UP, IF IT JUST AUTOMATICALLY BE AMENDED OR IF IT HAS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
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THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME OR A WHILE BACK, AND I DON'T APOLOGIZE.I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAIL WHERE YOU COULD OPEN CARRY WITHOUT A LICENSE, BUT IF YOU WERE CONCEALED CARRY, YOU STILL NEEDED TO HAVE A LICENSE.
NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAW IS ON THAT.
WE'RE A CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY NOW.
WHEN THEY WENT WITH THE OPEN CARRY, YOU COULD BE OPEN OR CONCEALED, IT DIDN'T MATTER.
AND THEN THE NEXT STEP WITH THAT WAS CONSTITUTIONAL, WHICH HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER, SO THEN THAT'S ALLOWING YOU TO DO IT AT ANY TIME.
SO ONE THING I WANTED TO THE RULES ARE REALLY MY HODGEPODGE OF PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING, WHICH AGAIN IS A LITTLE OVERBOARD IN MY VIEWS.
BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF AT ANY TIME YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ASK WANT TO ASK THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE RULES AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE US THEIR INPUT.
TO ME, THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THAT.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT AS WE PUT SOME KIND OF SIGNS UP, PERHAPS A BETTER APPROACH WOULD BE TO ASK PEOPLE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS THEY'RE IN THE PARK, PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS, AND MOST PEOPLE WILL BE RESPECTFUL.
SO THE SIGN BOARDS ARE UP, THE SIGNS ARE NOT.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LIGHTEST OF BEST WENT UP. WAS THIS HOW IT WAS GOING TO BE POSTED, THE WAY IT'S LISTED IN OUR DOCUMENTS? I SAW A SCHEMATIC OF IT A WHILE BACK AGO.
I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND IT JUST.
YEAH. YEAH. IT LOOKS VERY, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHY DO I WANT TO COME TO THIS PARK IF YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, RULE ME TO DEATH? I BELIEVE IT WAS A CUT DOWN VERSION OF THIS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BECAUSE IT FIT ON A, IT DID FIT ON A DECENT SIZED POSTER.
GARY, DO YOU REMEMBER? I THINK WE LOOKED AT THAT A WHILE BACK AGO.
I'D HAVE TO PULL THAT EMAIL UP AND LOOK AT EXACTLY THE DESIGN SCHEMATIC OF IT.
BUT I DON'T, TO BE HONEST, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS ALL OF THESE.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD TAKE FRONT AND BACK OF ALL THOSE BOARDS TO POST ALL THESE.
SEE IF WE CAN PUT UP A QR CODE.
ACTUALLY, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA AT THIS POINT.
I MEAN, OLSON READING THIS, IT'S JUST FUN IS PROHIBITED HERE.
SO HAVE WE HISTORICALLY HAD PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF THESE THINGS? BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, WHY ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE IT? THE ONLY THING I KNOW OF THAT HAS OCCASIONALLY BEEN A PROBLEM IS ATVS, AND PEOPLE COME AND TRY TO DO WHEELIES AND WHATNOT IN THE PRESERVE MIC].
I'M CURIOUS HOW DO OTHER CITIES DO THIS KIND OF SAME THING WITH THEIR PARKS? I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A PARK THAT HAD 25 RULES.
USUALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE AT THE PARK AND THAT'S THAT THAT'S ME WHEN I'VE GONE TO PARKS.
YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SOME RULES OUT THERE, BUT NOT NOTHING LIKE THIS.
I WOULD SUGGEST THEY PICK THE TOP FIVE RULES AND PUT, THOSE, POST THOSE AND LEAVE IT AT THAT. MY MEMORY BACK WHEN I WAS ON IT AND WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS, THAT WAS KIND OF THE
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THING THAT I BROUGHT UP THEN AND WE WERE DISCUSSING MOST PARKS TELL YOU NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES OUTSIDE OF THE PARKING LOT, THE HOURS THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BE IN IT AND USUALLY NO ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.AND YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO DO NO SMOKING IN THE GAZEBO AND NO LITTERING.
AND THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE DISCHARGING A FIREARM IS ALREADY AGAINST. WE DON'T HAVE TO POST THAT.
THAT'S AGAINST STATE LAW. SO WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY POST THAT THERE.
I CAN SEE A NO SWIMMING SIGN IN OUR POND THAT DOESN'T EVER REALLY HAVE WATER IN IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT, BUT I GUESS YOU COULD KIND OF PUT A SIGN OUT ON THE DIRT HOLE TO SAY, DON'T SWIM IN IT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, I AGREE, I THINK THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH HERE FOR A MUNICIPAL PARK.
OK, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL CHOICES.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO IS ASK PARKS AND RECS TO GO OVER THESE AND COME UP WITH THEIR TOP FIVE, TOP 10.
TOP TWO? THINK ABOUT JUVENILES, THEY'LL STOP READING AT TWO.
YEAH, THEY DON'T. THEY SEE ONE AND THEN THEY STOP.
WE CAN SEND IT BACK TO PARKS AND RECS FOR THEM TO REVIEW.
WE CAN ASK LUKE AND TRY AND MAYBE MICHAEL BECAUSE HE WAS PARKS AND REC TO LOOK AT THESE AND TRY TO CONSOLIDATE THEM DOWN OURSELVES, OR WE CAN JUST NOT DO NOTHING.
SO I KIND OF AGREE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO SAID IT NOW.
WE HAVE A PARKS AND REC COMMISSION.
I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD GO BACK TO THEM AND THEY SHOULD BE THE ONES AS PART OF THEIR DUTIES BECAUSE THIS FALLS UNDER THEM TO PROVIDE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US AND WRITE IT UP THE WAY THAT THEY WOULD THINK AS LONG AS IT PASSES.
THEY HAVE THAT CHARTER AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AND THEN THEY HAVE THEIR THOUGHT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW ALL THE REASONS FOR ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE SO THAT THEY CAN GIVE US A PROPOSAL.
I THINK FEBRUARY 9TH, I WILL MAKE SURE THIS GETS TO THEM BY THEN FOR THEM TO START WORKING. OK.
AFTER TRADE DAYS OPENED SOUTHFORK, FOR MANY OF YOU, I THINK WENT TO TRADE STATE SOUTHFORK, I GOT A SOME COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS REGARDING THE ANIMALS.
WE HAD SOME RESIDENTS WHO FELT THAT THE ANIMALS WERE BEING ABUSED, THEY WERE BEING MISTREATED AND THEY DID NOT LIKE IT.
AND THEY WANTED US TO BAN ANIMALS AT TRADE DAYS.
IN CHECKING WITH JAN OR TIM AT SOUTHFORK.
JENNA INDICATED THAT ALL OF THE ANIMALS AND BASICALLY WE'RE TALKING PUPPIES AND THAT SORT OF DEAL. ALL OF THEM HAD BREEDER CERTIFICATES AND VETERINARIAN CERTIFICATES.
SHE INDICATED THAT THE CAGES DID HAVE BOTTOMS OR THEY HAD A LITTLE WAYS DOWN A METAL TRAY SO YOU CAN RENT IT OUT AND THAT SORT OF THING.
I HAD TOLD THE PEOPLE THAT I WOULD BRING THIS UP TO COUNCIL BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, THEY WERE MOST CONCERNED.
THEY ACTUALLY WANT US TO BAN WITHIN THE CITY OF PARKER, AS WELL AS THAT SOUTHFORK.
WHAT WAS ALL ON THE TRADE, BARTER, SELL.
THE ANIMALS, YEAH. YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE DEAL, IN MY THOUGHT, IMMEDIATELY WENT TO CATTLE.
HOW? BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE MOST UPSET.
MICHAEL, I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE THERE.
DID YOU HAPPEN TO NOTICE ANY OF THE? SO I NOTICED IT.
ACTUALLY, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO IS PART OF AN ANIMAL ORGANIZATION GRABBED ME WHILE I WAS THERE AND I WENT AND LOOKED THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT ANIMALS THERE.
MY WIFE DOES THE VOLUNTEERING WITH DIFFERENT RESCUES AND THINGS.
THERE WAS ONE VENDOR THAT HAD A MASS OF DIFFERENT PUPPIES.
THEY WERE ON WIRE CRATES LIKE A RABBIT CRATE, AND SO IT WAS CHICKEN WIRE UNDERNEATH THEM THAT THEY WERE STEPPING ON DEFECATING.
THE IDEA WAS THE DEFECATION WOULD GO THROUGH THE MESH AND DOWN TO A TRAY.
IT DIDN'T. SO THEY WERE STOMPING ALL IN IT, AND THOSE WERE PRETTY BAD.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, EVERY TRADE DAYS, FLEA MARKETS THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT I'VE EVER GONE TO AND IT WAS IN MCKINNEY, THE ONE IN CANTON.
WE HAVE SEVERAL RESIDENTS HERE WHO WON FAIRLY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO CITY HALL THAT BREEDS
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DOGS, AND HE SELLS THEM.I KNOW, YOU KNOW, CATTLE, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO RAISE QUAIL AND SELL THOSE.
SO WE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT BANNING IT WHEN IT IS THE LIVELIHOOD OF MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA.
I DO HAVE SOME PICTURES THAT JANICE SENT ME.
I'M SORRY I COULD NOT GET THEM OFF.
IF YOU WANT TO SCROLL JUST SO YOU CAN SEE.
IT'S THE KIND OF AD SHE DID PUT EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL, ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE UNDER COVER, THEY WEREN'T OUT IN THE YARD.
IF YOU DIDN'T GO, THEY WERE IN THE BARNS IN THE BACK.
THE THREE BARNS ALL HAD VENDORS IN THEM.
THEY WERE IN A BARN, ALL BY THEMSELVES ON THE FAR END, SO THEY WERE COVERED FROM THE ELEMENTS. THEY DID HAVE, EVERYBODY HAD CERTIFICATES POSTED THAT I COULD SEE THEY HAD THEIR BREEDER CERTIFICATES. I DIDN'T SEE VETERINARIAN RECORDS, BUT I UNDERSTOOD THE CONCERN. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT THAT WE CAN DO IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS WITHOUT AFFECTING A LARGE MASS OF OUR RESIDENTS, OTHER THAN ENCOURAGE THE RESCUES TO PUT THEIR ADOPTIONS OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, GET A SPACE. AND I'M SURE JANA WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THEM TO GET THEIR SPACE OUT THERE AND ADOPT OUT DOGS IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND DO ANIMAL RESCUE. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY GOOD ANSWER, ONE I DON'T THINK.
WE SHOULD TELL JANET TIM, WHO SHE CAN AND CANNOT CONTRACT WITH IN TERMS OF HER VENDORS. I MEAN, IS THE NEXT THING.
WELL, WE DON'T LIKE THAT JEWELRY, SO YOU KNOW OR PICK SOMETHING.
NO, UNLESS THERE'S CLEAR EVIDENCE OF ABUSE.
IT'S REALLY NOT THE CITY'S BUSINESS, IN MY ESTIMATION, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO START REGULATING SO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS, OR WE WOULD HAVE TO WATER DOWN AN ORDINANCE SO MUCH IT WOULDN'T APPLY TO ANYTHING BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO DOOR TO DOOR AND TELL HER.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT IS OUR JOB TO TELL OUR RESIDENTS WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO IN THEIR PROPERTIES. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO OBJECT TO IT.
THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO TO MAKE THEIR COMPLAINTS WITH THEIR STATE LEGISLATURES TO GET BREEDING STOPPED.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE CITIES I KNOW THAT HAVE PASSED ORDINANCES LIKE THIS THAT HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES, FRISCO BEING ONE OF THEM RECENTLY THEY PASSED IT.
THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO BRED.
WELL, THEY WERE GOING AFTER ONE PERSON AND NOW IT'S AFFECTED A LOT OF RESIDENTS.
AND I JUST I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S, IT'S OUR CONCERN THE WELFARE OF ANIMALS, BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.
OK, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT AT THIS TIME, WE SHOULD STAY OUR COURSE, BUT KEEP AN EYE ON IT FOR ANY ABUSES THAT ARE OBSERVED.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MADE, YOU DISCUSSED IT WITH SOUTHFORK WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUE THAT WAS WAS BROUGHT UP AND AND I'M SURE THEY ASSURED YOU THEY WOULD BE KEEPING AN EYE AS WELL FOR THE FUTURE.
YES, THEY LIKE I SAID, AS SOON AS I TALKED TO JANA, SHE WAS LIKE, I'VE GOT THE CERTIFICATES, I'VE GOT BREEDER PERMITS, I'VE GOT THE VET STUFF, SHE SAYS.
I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU KNOW BAD THINGS GO ON.
AND I SAID, WELL, WE'VE GOT A GROUP, THEY'RE WERE GOING TO COME TO YOU.
AND I SAID I WOULD PREFER I WOULD PREFER TO REFER THEM TO YOU, JANA, BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR THING, IT'S YOUR CALL, AND THEY CAN TELL YOU WE DON'T WANT YOU HANDLING ANIMALS.
THAT'S NOT TO ME, OUR OUR FUNCTION.
JANA IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
THE ONLY OTHER ISSUE WITH THESE LADIES WERE WE DON'T LIKE PUPPY MILLS, OK? I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO DOES, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THESE ARE PUPPY MILL DOGS.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, EVERYBODY THAT WAS THERE, THERE WAS AN ENGLISH BULLDOG OR FRENCH BULLDOG BREEDER, I CAN NEVER TELL THE DIFFERENCE, HE HAD THREE PUPPIES.
I MEAN, IT WASN'T 30, IT WAS THREE, AND IT WAS HIS DOG HAD THOSE.
HE WAS SELLING THEM. THERE WAS A PERSON WHO HAD MINIATURE POODLES AND ONE OTHER TYPE OF DOG. AGAIN, IT WAS HER PETS THAT HAD THOSE DOGS.
IT WASN'T A LOT. THE ONLY ONE I SAW THAT TO ME, IT WAS JUST KIND OF A GROSS SETUP WITH ONE VENDOR AT THE VERY END.
AND I, YOU KNOW, SOUTHFORK, I TOLD THEM OR I TOLD THE PERSON WHO COMPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY SHOULD CONTACT SOUTHFORK IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS THEIR PROPERTY AND THAT IS THEIR SETUP AND THEIR VENDORS.
SO THEY WOULD BE WILLING, I'M SURE, TO LOOK INTO IT AND FIND OUT.
BUT OTHERWISE THEY WERE CLEAN.
YOU KNOW, THE SETUPS WAS CLEAN, THE WOODS NO SMELL.
THEY WERE OUT OF THE ELEMENTS. THEY WEREN'T OUT IN THE MAIN YARD.
THEY HAD HEATERS? THEY DID. AND MOST OF THEM SATURDAY, WHEN IT GOT COLD, THEY WEREN'T THERE BECAUSE THEY
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DIDN'T WANT TO BE OUT THERE, EITHER.SO BECAUSE I WENT FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND SATURDAY, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER SEEING, THERE WAS ONE OF THEM THERE, AND SHE ACTUALLY HAD PROPANE HEATERS SET UP FOR FOR THE PUPPIES THAT WERE THERE. ALL THE OTHER VENDORS WERE GONE.
OK, SO LET'S JUST LET SOUTHFORK HAVE IT UNTIL AND UNLESS SOMETHING OCCURS THAT NEEDS TO CAUSE US TO HAVE ATTENTION THERE.
OK. AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT A CAVEAT TO ENCOURAGE IF A RESIDENT HAS A CONCERN OR SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THAT THEY SHOULD COME FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE CAN ADDRESS IT AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THERE.
YEAH, I HAD THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I DID INVITE THEM TO SPECIFICALLY COME TO STATE THEIR CONCERNS.
BUT OK, NOW THE NEXT ONE, YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY WONDERING WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING SOME CHANGES.
SOME OF YOU ALL HAVE INDICATED TO ME IN THE PAST THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION IN THE PACKET. OTHER PEOPLE SAY, OH MY GOD, THESE PACKETS ARE 20 POUNDS.
THERE'S TOO MUCH INFORMATION IN THEM.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID THERE'S TOO MUCH IN THE MINUTES.
ALL THE MINUTES HAVE TO DO IS, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MOTION AND WHAT IT WAS.
WHO MOTIONED AND WHAT THE MOTION IS AND WHETHER IT WAS PASSED OR NOT.
OTHER PEOPLE SAY, NO, I WANT SOME INFORMATION, SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THE AGENDA FOR ME TO REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
OTHER PEOPLE SAY; DO YOU REALLY NEED ALL OF THIS? OK, I WANT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT SO THAT POOR PATTI OVER THERE IS NOT GETTING IT FROM EVERY DIRECTION AND WE'VE GOT A DIFFERENT COUNCIL.
HE MAY HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS ON SOME OF THIS.
SO AND I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST ARBITRARILY MAKE CHANGES.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE DO.
SO HOPEFULLY IT MEETS ALL THE NEEDS AND LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
IS THERE A LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO HAVE LIKE EACH MEETING'S ENTIRE PACKAGE PUT IN? LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE DOING THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE PRIOR MEETINGS. SO A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE LIKE THREE MEETINGS THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE; RIGHT? BUT WE END UP GETTING ALL THE NOTES FROM THAT MEETING, THEN ALL THE NOTES FROM THE OTHER MEETING AND THEN ALL THE NOTES FROM THE OTHER MEETING.
AND THAT IS JUST UP TO PAGE, YOU KNOW, 244, AND NOW WE HAVE LIKE THE REMAINDER.
I JUST I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S NEEDED A LEGALLY OR B, IF MAYBE IF IT'S EASIER JUST TO PUT A HYPERLINK IF ANYBODY WANTS TO REVIEW IT AND THEN? OK, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THE LEGAL STANDARD IS THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THE PUBLIC NOTICE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. SO IF WE WERE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT HAD A HYPERLINK, THAT WOULD BE OK. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED NOTES ON EVERYTHING BUT LIKE WHEREAS WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHERE YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE MINUTES BE ATTACHED NOW, WHETHER THEY'RE ATTACHED PHYSICALLY IN A BIG STACK LIKE THAT, OR IF YOU PROVIDE A HYPERLINK TO WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN STILL GET TO THOSE DOCUMENTS, I THINK THAT'S FINE. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS TO THE MINUTES.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL MINUTES, SO WHATEVER ANYTHING THAT WAS ON THAT AGENDA FOR THAT PARTICULAR MEETING.
ALL THOSE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS.
WHERE IT'S ON, LIKE, THE CONSENT AGENDA TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
YOU WOULD NOT NEED ALL THE EXTRA DOCUMENTS, YOU WOULD JUST NEED THE MINUTES THEMSELVES.
I THINK THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE BULK OF THAT.
ARE OTHER PEOPLE FEELING THE SAME THING THAT IF, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE CONTINUED SOMETHING AND WE GET THREE AND FOUR DEALS AND IT'S THIS BIG; DO WE REALLY NEED ALL OF THOSE OR DO WE JUST NEED THIS IS WHERE WE ARE? ONE THING THAT.
I DON'T GET MINE ON PAPER ANYMORE, I JUST READ IT.
BUT AND WHAT LED ME TO THAT DECISION IS THE DURING BUDGET SEASON WHERE SAME BUDGET MEETING, AFTER MEETING, AFTER MEETING, AND IT'S A HUNDRED PAGES LONG, RIGHT? AND WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I RUN OUT OF SPACE TO FILE THESE THINGS IN MY HOUSE.
SO. SO THAT'S WHEN I DECIDED TO GO TO ALL ELECTRONIC.
AND THEN IF THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE I DO NEED TO SIT DOWN LIKE THE FIRST TIME A BUDGET COMES OUT, I NEED TO SEE THE PAPER.
SO THEN I'LL CALL UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, PATTI OR SOMEBODY, COULD YOU PRINT THE BUDGET FOR ME AND THEY'LL DO IT? BUT I REQUEST WHEN I NEED IT.
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AND IF I DON'T REQUEST, I DON'T GET IT.YOU KNOW, I CAN LOOK AT IT ELECTRONICALLY, AND IT'S WORKED OUT PRETTY WELL FOR ME.
I MEAN, LIKE, THIS LAST AGENDA WAS PRETTY SHORT AND PRETTY EASY TO REVIEW ON A COMPUTER, BUT THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.
I'LL NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT TOO MUCH DOCUMENTATION IN OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ABRAHAM, I THINK ON THE CONSENT ITEMS, WE DON'T NEED THE ENTIRE PACKETS AGAIN ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM THAT BECOMES A LITTLE BURDENSOME TO FIND SOMETHING AND TO KEEP TRACK OF MY NOTES.
I DID IT SIMILAR REASON MAYOR PRO TEM MEYER DID.
ONE, I DIDN'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR THEM.
TWO, CARRYING AROUND FORTY FIVE POUNDS WORTH OF PAPER TO REVIEW THEM.
IT DIDN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE WHEN I CAN KEEP IT HERE AND KEEP MY NOTES.
BUT TO ME, I WOULD AGREE IF WE CAN JUST GO WITH THE MINUTES, I'M FINE WITH REMOVING THE PACKETS FOR THE REST BECAUSE THOSE ARE ONLINE.
WE CAN IF WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE AN ITEM ON A PACKET, WE CAN GO BACK AND GET THEM OR WE HAVE OUR ELECTRONIC.
BUT AS FAR AS THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS, I MEAN, I DON'T EVER MIND THE INFORMATION. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE HAVE THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION.
THERE'S SOMETIMES THAT I SCRATCH MY HEAD BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE ORDINANCES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1990 TO LAY IT OUT.
AND I THINK THAT SOME OF THAT'S A LITTLE OVERKILL, BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE CAN EVER HAVE TOO MUCH INFORMATION ON THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. BUT THE CONSENT, I THINK I AGREE YOU COULD.
PROBABLY ELIMINATE 300 PAGES ON SOME OF THESE AGENDAS BY REMOVING THE PACKETS FROM THE PREVIOUS AGENDAS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUBLIC ALSO WANTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO.
THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED THAT IN THAT EVENT, IF THERE'S A HYPERLINK, IF YOU NEED, THEY COULD ALWAYS ACCESS THAT WAY.
OR WE CAN JUST SAY IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, JUST CONTACT THE CITY AND GET IT DONE. MAYOR PRO TEM MEYER SUGGESTS SHE DOES MAKE A COMMENT.
. YEAH. WELL, PART OF MY CONCERN IS AND THIS IS AS TO PATTI.
SHE RUNS AROUND TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, OODLES OF DOCUMENTS GOING BACK TO 1997 OR WHATEVER. DO WE REALLY WANT THAT? DO WE REALLY NEED THAT? I MEAN, I WANT THE PACKET TO BE OR WHETHER IT'S ELECTRONIC OR PAPER TO BE WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS IT TO BE, AND NEEDS IT TO BE.
I JUST WANT US TO ELIMINATE ANYTHING THAT'S UNNECESSARY.
PATTI DO YOU GET MANY CALLS FROM CITIZENS OR EVEN COUNCIL ABOUT I NEED EXTRA THINGS IN A PACKET.
YOU ASKED ABOUT THE MINUTES AND THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL.
I'M OF THE BELIEF THAT MINUTES SHOULD DOCUMENT WHAT WAS DECIDED DECISIONS AND NOT A LOT OF OF THE OF THE DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THEM NOW RECORDED SO PEOPLE CAN GO LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION.
BUT THE RECORD SHOULD STATE WHAT THE YEAH, WHAT DECISIONS WERE MADE WITH RESPECT TO THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. AND I READ ONLINE, BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER. I DON'T COMPLAIN IF THERE'S I'D RATHER MORE THAN LESS SOMETHING I FEEL LIKE IS MISSING. SOMETIMES, THOUGH, IS KIND OF A CONCLUSION OF ALL OF THE INFORMATION.
THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, PULLING, AND I'M GOING TO USE REPUBLIC WASTE, MAYBE AS AN EXAMPLE OF LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL RATES ON REPUBLIC WASTE COMPARED TO WHAT WE WERE CHARGING OUR RESIDENTS.
THERE WASN'T A LINK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU HAD TO PHYSICALLY CALCULATE THOSE NUMBERS OUT.
IT SEEMS LIKE A SIMPLE THING, BUT FOR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO TO RELATE TO WHAT THIS ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS COMPARED TO HOW IT IMPACTS THEM, YOU KNOW, AND
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FOR US, TOO, I THINK THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE VERY HELPFUL.I ALSO LIKE TO ALWAYS SEE WHERE WHERE IS THIS GOING TO BE IN THE BUDGET? I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUDGETING.
WE'RE ANSWERING QUESTIONS BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET.
SO THAT'S MY, YOU KNOW, SOME COMMENTS ON THE THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. ALSO, WITH RESPECT TO GOING BACK, I'M FINDING THAT THE ORDINANCES THEMSELVES OR I SHOULD SAY, THE CODE OF ORDINANCE, THAT'S ALL.
SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER THAN LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCES THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE LEGISLATURE WHERE YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK FIVE DIFFERENT PLACES TO SEE WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CODE.
SO, YEAH, I WONDER IF THE CODE MIGHT BE AN EASIER THING TO GIVE ME BECAUSE I FIND MYSELF GOING OVER THERE TO SEE WHAT THE RULES REALLY ARE.
SO THOSE ARE JUST A FEW COMMENTS THAT I HAVE.
. OK. PATTI DOES THAT HELP YOU OR DO YOU NEED MORE GUIDANCE OR WHAT ? . I THINK WHAT THEY'RE GETTING AT IS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO GO LOOK AT THE ITEM, THEY CAN GO TO THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING.
IT'S JUST THE MINUTES NEED TO BE THE MINUTES THEMSELVES IS WHAT I'M HEARING.
LIKE GENERAL DISCUSSION, COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER MADE THE A MOTION, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH SECOND AND FIVE.
THAT'S ALL WE NEED FOR MINUTES.
YEAH, AND THAT'S ALL WE NEED FOR MINUTES, YOU KNOW? AND THEN THE PACKET STUFF, IF THEY WANT TO GO, LOOK AT THAT, THEY GO TO THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING OR GO TO THAT ONLINE SWAGIT MEETING AND GO DIRECTLY TO THAT ITEM TO LISTEN TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE.
SO YOU GUYS ARE JUST WANT PHYSICAL, JUST GENERAL DISCUSSION, WHAT WAS GENERALLY DISCUSSED AND THEN MOTION SECOND DONE WITH.
I THINK THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER, THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT MINUTES ENTAIL.
YOU KNOW, THE ONE PART OF OUR WEBSITE THAT ACTUALLY IS FAIRLY USER FRIENDLY AS OUR ARCHIVES FOR PRIVATE PRIOR MEETINGS AND MINUTES, THAT'S THE ONE PART THAT'S EASY TO USE.
I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH, IT SHOULD BE VERY BRIEF TO THE FACT OF WHAT HAPPENED.
AND THAT'S IT. WE DON'T BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE START GETTING INTO THE DETAIL, BUT NOT ALL THE DETAIL GOES IN THERE. SO IT'S ONLY CERTAIN POINTS AND THEN IT CAN BECOME CONFUSING.
WHEREAS IF IT JUST SAYS WHAT HAPPENED, THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE CARE ABOUT.
WHAT HOW DID THE COUNCIL VOTE? OK, BUT THE PDF ITSELF THAT YOU SEND US, I USE THAT, THAT I MAKE MY NOTES ON IT.
I KEEP THAT'S MY PAPER DOCUMENT.
I'M NOT ASKING THAT TO BE REMOVED.
IT'S JUST WITHIN THE PDF, YOU KNOW, MORE LINKS WOULDN'T HURT.
YOU UNDERSTAND. OK, I THINK WE CAN HANDLE IT.
AND THEN THE ONE THING, OH, GO AHEAD.
I WAS GOING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT ABOUT I WAS GOING TO SAY IN YOUR POCKET, EVERY TIME THERE IS A CALENDAR, DO YOU REALLY NEED THIS EVERY TIME OR WOULD YOU LIKE IT ONCE OR AT ALL? YOU KNOW, AND YEAH.
YEAH, I AGREE, BECAUSE ON THAT CALENDAR, I WIND UP LOOKING AT THE DATES ANYWAY, JUST TO CROSS-REFERENCE IT, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP ME AT ALL.
KIND OF AN ADD ON. THERE'S AN ICAL LINK ON THE WEBSITE CALENDAR, AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT LINKED TO MY PHONE. SO IT UPDATES THERE WHEN YOU UPDATE THE CALENDAR ON OUR WEBSITE SO I CAN SEE WHEN STUFF GETS CANCELED BECAUSE THESE PAPER ONES CHANGE ALL THE TIME, SO I DON'T REALLY EVEN LOOK AT THEM.
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. I THINK WE HAVE RSS CALENDAR FUNCTIONS WITHIN THAT.SO YOU CAN TIE IT. YEAH, I DO ON MY PHONE.
YEAH, I HAVE CALENDAR ON MY PHONE.
YEAH, YEAH. WELL, YOU ALL THINK ON IT BECAUSE IF WE CAN IMPROVE OUR AGENDA, OUR MINUTES AND THE NEEDS OF THE PACKET, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE.
THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO STOP TODAY.
WE CAN ONLY DISCUSS IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PATTI IS WILLING TO MAKE WHATEVER CHANGES THAT NEEDS TO BE. TREY WILL KEEP US LEGAL, HOPEFULLY.
AND I JUST WANT THE OTHER THING I NEED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW IS STARTING TOMORROW.
THE AGENDA MEETINGS WILL BE AT 10 O'CLOCK ON WEDNESDAYS.
THAT'S WHERE PRO-TEM MEYER MYSELF, LOU, TREY GET TOGETHER AND DO THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING. LIKE TOMORROW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 215.
ONCE WE HAVE DONE THAT, ANY AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU WANT ON THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE TO GET INTO US BY FIVE O'CLOCK TUESDAY, THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
THE FOLLOWING? THE WEEK PRIOR TO THE MEETING? YES. OK. BECAUSE WE HAVE AGENDA MEETINGS SOMETIMES, TOO.
RIGHT? WELL, IF WE HAVE THE AGENDA MEETING WEEKLY, YOU KNOW, AND SOMEBODY SAYS AFTER WE'VE HAD THE AGENDA MEETING AND THEY SAY, OH, CAN YOU ADD SUCH AND SUCH ON? WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF THEY GET US THE DOCUMENTATION OR WHATEVER IS NEEDED BY 5:00 P.M. THAT TUESDAY.
THAT GIVES PATTI PLENTY OF TIME TO GET THE AGENDA TOGETHER, PULL WHATEVER DOCUMENTS THERE NEEDS TO BE AND HER TO GET TO HAVE ACTUALLY TIME TO REVIEW THE PACKETS AND THEN THEY GO OUT WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW BECAUSE THE DEADLINES ARE CHANGING ON THAT AND I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY. OH, YOU DIDN'T TELL ME THAT? NO. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL WORK BETTER.
I THINK IT WILL, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, STAFF JUST SPENDS A LOT OF TIME RUSHING TOWARDS THE GOAL LINE, LIKE WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, THE PACKETS ARE DUE FRIDAY OUT.
IT JUST IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE COPIER OR WE HAVE AN ISSUE.
WE'VE HAD ISSUES WHEN THE POWER WENT OUT HERE AND YOU WERE RUSHING TO TRY TO GET STUFF.
YEAH. SO IT JUST, IT STARTED TO BECOME PROBLEMATIC, LIKE TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE.
ALMOST IF WE COULD GET IT THAT WAY, WE HAVE ENOUGH IT GO OVER IT.
OK, SO IF IT WAS THE LIKE TOMORROW WE'RE MEETING THE SECOND, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DUE THE FIRST, LIKE TODAY IS WHAT SHE'S GETTING AT.
THAT WAY, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE HAVE TIME TO CONTACT YOU AND SAY, HEY JIM, I SEE YOU WANTED THIS ON THE AGENDA.
WE NEED THIS AND THIS TO GO FORWARD.
AND THAT GIVES US ENOUGH TIME TO GET THAT WITHOUT SAYING, GEE, WE HAVE TO MOVE IT INTO THE NEXT MEETING TO MARCH.
AND IF YOU, I THINK WE'LL WORK WITH EVERYONE IS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE FAIR TO EVERYONE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING.
AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT DOING EVERYONE.
I THINK WE'RE DOING SOMETIMES A DISSERVICE IF WE CAN'T GET TO IT AND FULLY VET EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO WHEN WE'RE JUST SITTING THERE, RUSHING AND RUSHING AND RUSHING THAT WHOLE WEEK. AND IT'S IT JUST BECOMES TOO MUCH AT THAT POINT.
AND I'LL JUST ADD IN LIKE WITH THAT, THE MATERIALS COME INTO PATTI ORIGINALLY AND THEN SHE'LL PULL IT TOGETHER, AND THEN IT STILL HAS TO COME THROUGH ME AND THEN LOU BEFORE WE'LL, YOU KNOW, APPROVE IT FOR THE AGENDA AND JUST GIVING US TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON WHAT IT IS BEFORE IT GOES ON, THERE WOULD BE BETTER SUITED TO SERVE THE CITY.
YEAH, IT'S REAL HARD FOR TREY OR SOME OF US.
IF WE GET A CONTRACT AT NOON ON FRIDAY TO GET IT REVIEWED, GO OVER.
MAKE SURE IT'S CORRECT TO GET IN THE PACKET TO GO OUT FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
NO. YOU KNOW, THAT JUST CAN'T, UNLESS IT'S AN ABSOLUTE EMERGENCY, WE HAVE NO CHOICE THAT JUST DIDN'T. BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE GET CONTRACTS SOMETIMES AND I'M JUST PICKING ON CONTRACTS WHERE IT'LL SHOW THE WRONG DATE OR THE, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT CITY OR SAYS HOME
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RULE INSTEAD OF GENERAL LAW, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT TIME TO CATCH EVERYTHING.SO THIS HOPEFULLY WILL GIVE THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PRETTY HARDCORE ABOUT THAT NEW DATE. IT MAY CAUSE SOME THINGS TO GET MOVED TO WEEK.
PEOPLE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION AND LOOK AT WHAT'S COMING UP WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND GET THE INFORMATION IN.
NOTHING WRONG WITH GETTING IT IN EARLY.
YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE YOU FOR THAT, BUT WE WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT THAT.
SO IF YOU'RE TOLD I'M SORRY, IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS RATHER THAN THIS, YOU'LL NOT WHINE.
WELL, YOU'RE WHINE, BUT WE'LL KNOW IT'S MICHAEL.
THIS IS WHY I HAVE A PAPER AGENDA.
I NEED TO GO NOW. OK, THANK YOU.
OK. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL RECESS TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN A.GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 PERSONNEL TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE.
GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0711 CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY CONCERNING, PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION.
GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0712 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER OPEN READING ACT. AT THIS POINT, WE ARE IN RECESS.
OH, I GOT TO WAIT FOR EVERYBODY TO GET HERE.
WE ARE RECONVENING THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 9:21.
COUNCIL. WAS THERE ANY ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, MADAM MAYOR. OK, NOT HEARING ANYTHING ELSE.
OK, THANK YOU.
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