Aug 17, 2021 City Council

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IT IS NOW 7:00 P.M., I'M CALLING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF PARKER, TEXAS, TO ORDER ON

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AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK MR., OLSON, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YES, MADAM MAYOR AND ALSO COUNCILWOMAN DIANA ABRAHAM IS JOINED US BY TELEPHONE.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO RECESS TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE

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AT THIS TIME WE ARE IN RECESS, 7:01.

OK, AUGUST 17, 2021.

IT IS NOW SEVEN TWENTY NINE P.M.

AND THIS TIME WE WILL DO THE PLEDGES.

PATTI, DO YOU FEEL UP TO DOING THE AMERICAN PLEDGE? DO I GO UP THERE OR STAY HERE? AND AMANDA, IF YOU DO THE TEXAS PLEDGE.

THANK Y'ALL. OK, NEXT, WE HAVE PUBLIC

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

I WANT TO ADDRESS TWO THINGS.

FIRST, LAST NIGHT AT THE MEETING, I WAS ASSIGNED THE TASK OF PLANNING ABOUT ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS. TURNS OUT THE STATE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR A WHOLE LOT, MANY, MANY YEARS AND THERE IS A WHOLE SECTION THERE IN REVISION F NOW ABOUT WHAT DOCUMENTS AND HOW THEY'RE STORED, HOW LONG THEY'RE STORED, WHAT KIND THAT ARE STORED.

THEY EVEN HAVE CLASSES, THE COMMISSION ON RECORDS THEY HAVE CLASSES FOR THE CITIES TO TAKE AND THEY ARE ONLINE CURRENTLY.

THEY'VE SUSPENDED THEM, BUT ALL THE HISTORICAL STUFF IS OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO VIEW.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT IF THAT'S OUT THERE, IT'S A LITTLE IT'S ABOUT AN 88 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT EXPLAINS EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT.

WHAT CAN BE DONE, WHAT CAN'T BE DONE, WHAT CAN BE STORED, YOU KNOW, THROWN AWAY, WHAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP AND EVERYTHING.

AND THEN THEY WILL ALSO COME TO YOU THE STATE WILL COME TO YOU AND TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW TO DO IT AS WELL. SO IF YOU REQUESTED, SO THEY HAVE CURRENTLY SUSPENDED THAT ON COVID.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AVAILABLE WHEN WE WANT TO.

BUT ALL THE ELECTRONIC STUFF IS OUT THERE.

ALL RIGHT, THE SECOND THING WAS, I WANT TO SPEAK ON THE COMMITTEE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. [INAUDIBLE] LAST NIGHT ESSENTIALLY, WE ALREADY STARTED IT AND WHEN ALL THESE TASKS WERE GIVEN TO CITIZENS, I MEAN, BASICALLY WHEN YOU STARTED IT, KNOW, BACK IN NOVEMBER, THE CITIZENS ASKED FOR IT AND WE GOT IT.

YEAH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT YET.

SO I THINK OVERWHELMINGLY THE CITIZENS HAVE ASKED FOR NOT ONLY PARTICIPATION, BUT I THINK YOU'VE SEEN LAST NIGHT THAT CITIZENS ARE WILLING TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND GET STUFF DONE AND GET IT DONE QUICKLY.

YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE I ASKED THIS QUESTION MULTIPLE TIMES, WHY AREN'T WE, NOTHING'S EVER BEEN ABOUT EXPANDING THIS BUILDING, AND THEN LAST NIGHT, THERE WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF DISCUSSION ABOUT REPURPOSING IT.

AND THE ARGUMENT WAS, WELL, IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY TO DO THIS.

WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. SO WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY TO COME UP HERE AND REPURPOSE IT AND DO ALL THAT STUFF ANYWAY.

HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I MEAN, FINANCIAL SENSE FOR US.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE COMMITTEE COMES INTO PLAY.

I THINK IT [INAUDIBLE] CAN HELP GETTING US THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE CITY, WHETHER

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I MEAN, WE SAT THERE LAST NIGHT AND SEVERAL COMMITTEE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE CROWD THAT CAME UP WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS TO SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T MAKE THIS? WE CAN MAKE THIS ROOM MORE FUNCTIONAL.

IF WE DID THIS, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SEEN, I THINK IT WILL BE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE AND IT WILL MOVE THE PROJECT A LOT FARTHER, A LOT FASTER.

I THINK WE'VE LOST A LOT OF TIME AND IT'S TIME TO PUT THE COMMITTEE IN PLACE, GET IT MOVING SO THAT WE CAN GET THE BUILDING ON THE BALLOT, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, AS DO WE ACTUALLY NEED A BOND? CAN WE FINANCE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS THE BEST OPTION ADDING ON THIS BUILDING AND WE CAN FINANCE IT OUT OF OUR CURRENT COFFERS? OR DO WE HAVE TO DO WE REALLY DO NEED A NEW BUILDING AND THEN IT'S STILL GOT TO PASS FOR A BOND. AND IF WE CAN'T CONVINCE THE VOTERS THAT THIS IS WHAT WE NEED AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING AND TO SIT IT, THIS IS CITIZEN DRIVEN THAT YOU KNOW WHAT CITIZENS HAVE LOOKED AT THIS NOT JUST US AS A COUNCIL AND GOTTEN A FRESH LOOK AT IT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO PASS, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PAYING HIGH TAXES ALREADY ON EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND WHEN THEY'RE [INAUDIBLE] AND IT SAYS RIGHT ON THE BALLOT, THIS IS A TAX.

SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. HAVE A GREAT DAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MR. WILLIAMS. OK, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? OK, I HAVE A LETTER THAT WAS AN EMAIL FROM DR.

CLAY WHO TO ME IT IS A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED WITH THE RECORDS, THE MINUTES OF THIS MEETING.

OK, SO WE WILL DO SO.

OK, NEXT WE WILL GO TO ITEMS OF INTEREST.

[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

WE'LL RESUME IN SEPTEMBER.

DO WE HAVE OK, PARKS AND RECS SHOWS TO BE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO. THE TAX CALENDAR, WE'RE HAVING THE FIRST MEETING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND PROPOSED TAX WRITE ON AUGUST 31ST.

THE SECOND MEETING WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 7TH.

WE WILL ALSO VOTE ON THE PROPOSED TAX WRITE AND PROPOSED BUDGET ON THAT DATE.

THEN NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN ON OCTOBER 5TH AT FROM SIX TO NINE.

IF YOU LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION THAT LIKES TO CELEBRATE THAT, WELL I HOPE EVERYBODY WILL PARTICIPATE. HOPEFULLY IT'S ON THIS YEAR.

CHIEF, WHO ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO CONTACT FOR THE COORDINATOR? MICHELLE IS COORDINATING AND IT'S ALSO A LINK PROVIDED ON THE WEBSITE.

OK, THANK YOU.

ON OCTOBER TWENTY THIRD IS NATIONAL PRESCRIPTION DRUG TAKE BACK EVENT, WHICH WILL OCCUR HERE, YOU DRIVE UP AND TO THE POLICE STATION, THEY ARE STANDING OUT THERE, YOU CAN DROP OFF YOUR UNUSED OR EXPIRED DRUGS.

DO YOU HAVE WILL YOU HAVE THE NEEDLE THING AND SYRINGES AND THAT SORT OF THING? AT THE SAME TIME, THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL WILL OCCUR ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER.

TWENTY THIRD FROM TEN TO TWO P.M.

YOU DRIVE UP HERE WITH YOUR HAZARDOUS WASTE AND MR. BERNAS AND HIS FELLOWS WILL BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU GET THAT OUT OF YOUR VEHICLE INTO THEIR CONTAINERS.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THERE WILL BE TWO FOOD DROPS.

ONE WILL BE STARTING SEPTEMBER 1ST TO BENEFIT THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK IS PART OF THEIR PEANUT BUTTER DROP.

THEY HAVE EVERY SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE A BOX IN THE FOYER FOR YOU TO DROP OFF YOUR PEANUT BUTTER, YOUR JELLY, WHATEVER, FOR THEIR BENEFIT.

THE SECOND IS THERE WILL BE A FOOD DRIVE ON OCTOBER TWENTY THIRD, ALONG WITH THE DRUG TAKE BACK AND THE HOME HAZARDOUS WASTE FOR, HAS IT BEEN DETERMINED WHO THAT WILL BENEFIT

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TO 6:00 PM.

MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE.

OK, NEXT, WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS.

[1. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES FOR AUGUST 3, 2021.]

IF THERE'S NO, I WILL TAKE A MOTION ON THOSE.

MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FOR AUGUST 3RD, 2021.

OK, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH, I'LL SECOND, TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 3RD.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM MICHAEL SLAUGHTER.

YOU GET THE NEXT ONE THE MEETING MINUTES.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OK, MS. ABRAHAM, MADAM MAYOR I CONCUR.

OK, MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

NEXT, WE HAVE CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION

[2. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2021-675 APPOINTING AN AUDITOR AND ENTERING INTO A SERVICE CONTRACT WITH SAID AUDITOR FOR 2020-2021 AUDIT. [TABLED – 08032021; REWORDED]]

FINANCE DIRECTOR SAVAGE, DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM? SURE, SO WE WENT [INAUDIBLE] AND THAT CLOSED ROUGHLY TWO WEEKS AGO.

AS OF THE CLOSE, THERE WAS ONLY ONE PROPOSAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED, AND THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT AUDITOR THAT WE HAVE FOLKS [INAUDIBLE], SO I KNOW THE WORDING WAS CHANGED FROM THE RESOLUTION WAS CHANGED FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING SO TO REFLECT THAT.

OK, COUNCIL, AS YOU'VE HEARD, WE WENT OUT FOR BID, WE GOT ONE BID AND IT'S FROM OUR CURRENT PROVIDER.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT OR DISCUSS THAT? MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS, PLEASE.

OK, FIRST, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS PROCESS THAT WAS FOLLOWED.

WHERE WAS THE RFQ POSTED? WE POSTED IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.

OK, AND WAS ANY COMPANY NOTIFIED OR PROVIDED THE RFQ DIRECTLY OR NOTIFIED OF THE OPENING PERIOD OF THE RFQ? WE WERE REQUESTED AFTER THE OPENING OF [INAUDIBLE] DIDN'T ASK FOR THE RFQ, YES.

OK, ALSO, WHY DID THE RFQ ONLY ALLOW FOR A TWO WEEK WINDOW TO RESPOND? [INAUDIBLE] WE WERE TRYING TO GET IT DONE BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETINGS WOULD GET THAT ROLLING. BUT I DON'T THINK, ISN'T THAT FAIRLY STANDARD? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW [INAUDIBLE].

I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS, YEAH I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE TAKE STEPS TO ENSURE THAT WE GET PROPOSALS FROM SEVERAL AUDITORS SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND, UNDERTAKE TRULY A FULL SCALE COMPETITIVE PROCESS, ENSURING THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST SERVICES POSSIBLE FOR OUR OUR ANNUAL AUDIT.

THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATED HAS RECOGNIZED YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM THAT YOU EXPERIENCED IN THIS AUDIT, AND I THINK WE'VE EXPERIENCED OR IN THIS RFQ AND I THINK HAS BEEN EXPERIENCED HERE PREVIOUSLY, AND THEY HAVE SOME BEST PRACTICES, RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADDRESS THOSE.

SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE ENTERING INTO MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENTS AND ACTIVELY SEEKING THE PARTICIPATION OF ALL QUALIFIED FIRMS, OR AT LEAST A, YOU KNOW, A DIRECTED LIST OF QUALIFIED FIRMS, INCLUDING THE CURRENT AUDITOR.

IF THE CURRENT IF WE BELIEVE THAT CURRENT AUDITOR'S SATISFACTORY WITH RESPECT TO THE

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I HAVE WE'VE USED THIS FIRM FOR NINE YEARS SINCE THE FISCAL 2012 AUDIT.

WELL, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE NEED TO REQUIRE MANDATORY ROTATION.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF A FULL SCALE COMPETITIVE PROCESS FOR THE SELECTION OF THESE AUDITORS. I HAVE THREE MAJOR QUESTIONS ABOUT RETAINING THE EXISTING AUDITOR.

ONE, ARE THEY OBJECTIVE? FOR AN AUDIT FIRM THAT HAS ONLY HAS IDENTIFIED TO US THEY HAVE ONLY ONE CLIENT THAT DOES NOT HAVE A MATERIAL WEAKNESS OF INTERNAL CONTROLS GIVES ME PAUSE FOR CONCERN.

TWO, ARE THEY TIMELY? THIS YEAR'S AUDIT WAS NOT PROVIDED UNTIL MAY 12TH.

THIS IS MORE THAN SEVEN MONTHS AFTER THE YEAR END AND IS UNACCEPTABLE.

THE CURRENT PROPOSAL TARGETS A DATE OF MARCH.

IF THE REPORT IS NOT ISSUED UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH, THIS WOULD BE SIX MONTHS TO PROVIDE THE YEAR IN AUDIT TO OUR RESIDENTS.

TO ME, THIS TOO IS UNACCEPTABLE.

THREE, ARE WE GOING ARE WE GETTING AN ADEQUATE FRESH VIEWPOINT? HOW CAN THE SAME AUDITOR FOR THE PAST NINE YEARS GIVE US A FRESH VIEWPOINT? I RECOMMEND THAT WE RESTART THE RFQ PROCESS WITH CHANGES TO ENCOURAGE OTHER COMPANIES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS BY OFFERING A MULTIYEAR CONTRACT AND ACTIVELY SEEKING THE PARTICIPATION OF OTHER FIRMS. THE GOVERNING BODY IS ONE OF THREE MAIN GROUPS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, FOR THE QUALITY OF FINANCIAL REPORTING, ALONG WITH THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND INDEPENDENT AUDITORS.

AS THE GOVERNING BODY, WE MUST BE STRIDENT IN OUR ACTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIES AUDIT IS BEYOND REPROACH, TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE PUBLIC FINANCE FUNCTIONS IN MAINTAINING THE CITIZEN'S CONFIDENCE IN THE AUDITED FINANCIAL RESULTS.

I, IS THAT A MOTION? I, NO, I AM VOTING AGAINST APPROVING THIS RFQ, AND I URGE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE AGAINST USING THE AUDITORS FOR THE COMING AUDIT. GRANT, I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE THAT WASN'T A MOTION, THAT WAS JUST A STATEMENT.

BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

IF WE WOUND UP USING BROOKS WATSON, CAN WE GET A DIFFERENT AUDITOR TO TO DO OUR AUDIT? YES, I DID SPEAK WITH THE FIRM AND THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANYWHERE FROM A FROM THE PARTNER ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE STAFF ACCOUNTANT THEY COULD SUPPLY A NEW SET OF EYES TO LOOK AT THE BOOKS THIS YEAR, YES.

WAS THERE A REASON THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF, OF THE DELAY IN THE AUDIT BEING DELIVERED TO US THIS PAST AUDIT YEAR? SO I THINK THEY WERE EXPERIENCING COVID ISSUES AND THE REPORT WRITERS WERE OUT FOR EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, AND SO THEY EXPRESSED THE REPORT WRITERS IS WHAT CAUSED EVERYTHING TO GET BACKED UP, SO.

DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE THE SAME DIFFICULTY THIS YEAR IF WE GO WITH THEM? I WOULDN'T EXPECT TO HAVE THE SAME DIFFICULTY.

THERE WAS THE FIRST ONE WE'VE HAD THAT WAS DELAYED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE SO.

GREAT, JUST TO FOLLOW UP, MAYOR, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? CERTAINLY, ALL RIGHT.

QUESTION'S FOR GRANT, GRANT, DID YOU ASIDE FROM THE TIMELINESS OF THE REPORT, HAVE YOU NOTICED ANY DISCREPANCIES OR ANY ISSUES WITH THE ACCURACY OF THE AUDIT OR THE CREDIBILITY OF THE AUDITOR OR ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN FOR THE CITY IN REGARDS TO THE ACTUAL PRODUCT? THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I'VE HAD IS HAS BEEN THAT THE TIMING OF THE AUDIT AND THAT WAS ALSO DISCUSSED AND THEY WERE WILLING TO TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE ON THE TIME THAT THEY COME OUT TO ALLOW ME TO GET MORE OF THE YEAR END ENTRIES IN.

SO THEY SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE FLEXIBLE ON THAT.

SO IF I WANTED TO START IN THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER, WE COULD DO THAT.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THEM.

OK, AS FAR AS THE INTEGRITY OF THE ACTUAL PRODUCT AND THE ACCURACY, THERE IS NO OTHER ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN ALL THESE YEARS OR IN THE MOST RECENT YEAR PARTICULARLY AND

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SO DID THEY GIVE ANY PATH FORWARD FOR IF THEY GO INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN TO BE MORE PROACTIVE SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON? NO, BUT I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

BUT, NO, LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'VE BEEN LATE ON PROVIDING AUDITS . AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WE HAD EMAILED BACK AND FORTH ON ONE TOPIC, AND IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT FOR SOME REASON WHEN I READ THE RFQ, IT DID SEEM LIKE THEY WERE PRETTY ASSUMPTIVE ON THE FACT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO GET IT.

THAT WAS JUST KIND OF MY OVERALL PERCEPTION, BUT MAYBE IT WAS JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT SHOULD BE BID OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE AND SO FORTH.

BUT THAT WAS, YOU ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO TIMING, IT SEEMS LIKE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THEIR PROPOSALS IN THE PAST HAVE INDICATED, BUT WHY ARE THEY WHY A MARCH DEADLINE FOR THE AUDIT THIS YEAR? SO A MARCH DEADLINE WOULD BE IDEAL FOR THE FACT THAT OUR CONTINUING DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO REPORT FOR, FOR OUR DEBT, THEY'RE DUE AT THE END OF MARCH AND A LOT OF TIME, THOSE REQUIRE YOUR AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

SO BEFORE ,OF COURSE IT'S DONE, IT'S NICE TO HAVE THE AUDIT FINANCIALS DONE.

IT'S NOT MANDATORY, BUT IT'S ALWAYS NICER TO HAVE THAT.

IT SEEMS A LONG TIME TO ME TO WAIT SIX MONTHS FOR YOUR RESIDENTS, FOR YOU, EVEN YOUR BOARD, YOUR COUNSEL, TO RECEIVE THE FINAL NUMBERS FOR THE YEAR.

YEAH, THAT'S A VERY LONG TIME.

SO I GUESS WITH RESPECT TO MAKING A MOTION, I MOVE THAT WE DON'T PASS THIS, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO AND I COULD USE SOME HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH HOW THE WORDING AND STUFF.

I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL ESTABLISH AN AUDIT COMMITTEE WITH RESPONSIBILITIES FOR REVIEW AND OVERSIGHT OF THE ANNUAL AUDIT.

OK, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH THAT WE DO NOT ACCEPT THE AUDITING FIRM OF BROOKS WATSON AND WE'RE I'M NO DEAL WITH THEM ONE AT A TIME.

OK, IS THERE A SECOND? NOT HEARING A SECOND, MOTION DIES.

OK NOW, THE SECOND MOTION, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, MS. LEE, IS FOR AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ON THE AUDIT THAT THE COUNCIL ESTABLISHED AN AUDIT COMMITTEE WITH RESPONSIBILITIES FOR REVIEW AND OVERSIGHT OF THE ANNUAL AUDIT.

OK, MS. LYNCH HAS MADE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL WILL ESTABLISH AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WITH REVIEW AND OVERSIGHT AND OVERSIGHT OF THE AUDIT.

IS THERE A SECOND? I WOULD SECOND THAT.

THERE'S A MOTION BY MS. LYNCH AND A SECOND BY MR. REED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR ANY DISCUSSION? I'M JUST GOING TO ASK IF THAT FITS INTO THE AGENDA ITEM BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, SO I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT COULD NULLIFY YOUR COMMITTEE IF THAT'S THE PATH THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THE FUTURE. I THINK THAT IT'S NOT CURRENTLY ON THE AGENDA.

IT COULD BE. IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PLACED ON REQUEST FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. BUT I WOULD I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS THE MATTER THIS EVENING.

OK, AND I WOULD SUPPORT PUTTING IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

GOOD. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

THAT OK, I WILL PUT THAT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. IF YOU WOULD NOTE THAT LLOYD FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OK, NOW GOING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, I WILL ASK, IS THERE A MOTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-675 APPOINTING AN AUDITOR OF BROOKS WATSON'S AND ENTER INTO A SERVICE CONTRACT WITH SAID AUDITOR FOR THE 2020-2021 AUDIT.

SO CURRENTLY, THE MOTION THAT WAS PENDING WAS THE MOTION NOT TO ACCEPT HIM.

THAT MOTION FAILED FOR NOT HAVING A SECOND.

SO IF THERE'S SOMEONE ON COUNCILMAN THAT WOULD BE INCLINED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT THAT MOTION NEEDS TO BE MADE.

MADAM MAYOR, I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-675,

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OK, COUNCIL MEMBER ABRAHAM HAS MADE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2021-675.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MADAM MAYOR, WHILE ACKNOWLEDGING COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH'S RESERVATIONS.

OK, WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-675 APPOINTING AN AUDITOR AND ENTERING INTO A SERVICE CONTRACT WITH THAT AUDITOR FOR 2020-2021. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, I WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE MOTION TO INCLUDE A DIFFERENT AUDITOR FROM THE PAST YEARS SO THAT WE GET A FRESH SET OF EYES.

THE QUESTION DOES THAT NEED TO BE IN THE MOTION COUNCIL? I THINK SHE'S I THINK WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS REQUESTING IS, WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL MEMBER ABRAMS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AMENDING HER MOTION IN THAT REGARD.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH MAKING THAT AMENDMENT.

AND THEN THEN WE WOULD ASK COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER WHETHER HE IS ALSO, SINCE HE SECONDED THE MOTION, WILLING TO ADOPT THAT AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.

I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.

OK, OK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PASS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-675 WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT THE AUDIT BE DONE BY DIFFERENT AUDITOR WITHIN THAT FIRM.

YEAH TO BE CLEAR, I THINK THE AMENDMENT SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON IS THAT WITHIN THE FIRM THAT WE'VE SELECTED, THAT THE AUDIT TEAM BE COMPRISED OF DIFFERENT MEMBERS, IS THAT EFFECTIVELY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IT'S OK, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PASSING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-675, APPOINTING AN AUDITOR AND ENTERING INTO A SERVICE CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH SAID AUDITOR FOR 2020 AND 2021 AND THIS WOULD BE WITH A DIFFERENT SET OF AUDITORS WITHIN THE BROOKS COURT IS BROOKS WATSON FIRM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

OK, DIANA, MADAM MAYOR, I CONCUR, WITH WHICH? DIDN'T WANT TO GET IT WRONG.

THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES FOR ONE.

THE ONE IS MS. LYNCH. OK, NOW DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION AND ANY APPROPRIATION, ANY

[3. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON  HAVING THE ARCHITECT KENT SPURGIN MAKE UPDATES TO BUILDING ARCHITECT PLANS BASED ON CURRENT FEEDBACK AND  CREATING A "CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE" FOR THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX PROJECT.]

DID YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ONE AT A TIME? OK, LET'S DO THAT.

YES, MADAM MAYOR, JIM REED AND I ARE PRESENTING AN AGENDA ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION TO ADDRESS TWO ISSUES.

WE'RE ONLY TALKING ONE AT THIS TIME.

WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ONE THIS TIME.

OVERALL WITH RESPECT TO THE PROJECT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT THAT TO US, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US TO GET IT DONE AND TO GET IT DONE RIGHT.

WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE [INAUDIBLE] OK, AT THIS POINT.

I'M GOING TO STOP YOU MS. LYNCH AND I'M GOING TO READ THE WHOLE THING, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO THAT, THEN I NEED TO HAVE THE WHOLE THING READ.

OK, AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION AND ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON HAVING THE ARCHITECT KEN SPURGEON MAKE UPDATES TO THE BUILDING ARCHITECT PLANS BASED ON CURRENT FEEDBACK AND CREATING A CITIZEN'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX PROJECT.

OK NOW, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I JUST NEEDED [INAUDIBLE] YEAH, YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT.

WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE RESIDENTS THAT FEEL THAT SUFFICIENT RESEARCH WAS DONE IN THE PRIOR PROPOSALS AND THAT WE SHOULD JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

WE BELIEVE THAT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT IS OUR DUTY TO LISTEN TO THE WILL OF THE VOTERS IN

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WE DO, HOWEVER, BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE DELAYING THE PROCESS AS WE ALL RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR A PERMANENT SPACE FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ADEQUATE SPACE FOR OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

OUR GOAL IS TO MOVE DELIBERATELY, INCLUDING BOTH THE RESIDENTS AND STAFF IN THE DISCUSSIONS. THE FIRST ITEM RELATES TO GETTING AN UPDATED PLAN FOR THE ARCHITECT.

THE REASONING BEHIND THIS REQUEST IS TO HAVE A STARTING POINT FOR RESIDENTS TO CONSIDER AND TO PROVIDE A TRUE COMPARISON OF WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND TO SEE WHAT THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED SIZE LOOKS LIKE.

WE FEEL THE CURRENT PROCESS IS LACKING.

DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE TO BE FOCUSED ON THE INFORMATION FROM THE FAILED BOND PROPOSAL RATHER THAN INFORMATION BASED ON NEW IDEAS.

HAVING LISTENED TO RESIDENTS REVISIONS IN POPULATION PROJECTIONS AND CONTINUED FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS DURING THE WORKSHOPS.

WE PROPOSE THAT COUNCIL AND STAFF AGREE ON AND DOCUMENT CHANGES TO THE BOND PROPOSAL INFORMATION BECAUSE THAT IS OUR BEST STARTING POINT.

MEET WITH THE ARCHITECT TO ADDRESS HOW SUCH CHANGES COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO A NEW PLAN AND HAVE THE ARCHITECT CREATE SUCH A PLAN WITH THE GOAL OF REDUCING SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM WHAT THAT WHICH THE VOTERS DECLINED TO APPROVE.

DUE TO RECENT ENGINEERING STUDIES, I'M SORRY, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONED THE QUALIFICATIONS OF OUR ARCHITECT.

WE'VE RECEIVED A BIO FROM THE ARCHITECT KENT SPURGEON AND SEE THAT HE HAS A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE ON THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.

WE HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM OUR STAFF AND MS. AMANDA KNOW, A RESIDENT THAT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH LAYOUT OPTIONS AND HAS HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. SPURGEON, WHO EXPRESSED CONFIDENCE IN HIS WORK AND BELIEVE THAT HIS EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE ON THE PROJECT WARRANT THE REMAINING, HIS REMAINING THE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT. WE BELIEVE IT WISE TO CONTINUE WITH HIM.

AND WOULD IT BE OK TO ADD A COPY OF HIS BIO IN THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX WEBSITE? YEAH, WE CAN DO SO AT THIS POINT.

[INAUDIBLE] LEAVE IT, GIVE IT TO JIM AND THEN ASK OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YEAH, I CONCUR WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN HAS KIND OF ADDRESSED THAT THE, PLEASE SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE. CAN YOU HEAR BETTER NOW.

OK, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN LYNCH ON EVERYTHING THAT SHE COMMUNICATED.

ADDITIONALLY, I AM VERY MOTIVATED FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.

AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAT IS COMPILED SO THAT WE CAN MOVE IN A MORE DRAMATICALLY QUICK FASHION.

WE'VE LOST A LOT OF TIME AND IT'S GOOD TO GET MORE INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THESE DISCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW, SOLID AND MOVE FORWARD WITH EVERYONE'S OPINION.

THE OTHER CONSIDERATION THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE REITERATED IS THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN PRETTY LOUDLY ON THIS WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS.

I THINK EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED A NEW FACILITY.

I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THE OPTIONS FOR THAT FACILITY ARE UNITED WITH THE PEOPLE AS WELL AS THE STAFF IN THE COUNCIL.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK THIS TAKES A GREAT STEP AND MOVING FORWARD IN THAT REGARD SO THAT WE GET BUY IN.

FURTHER DISCUSSION, SO THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD TO IT, I THINK, IS PART OF WHAT YOU WERE ASKING WAS TO TAKE IT TO HIM WITH THE GOAL OF REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE VOTED ON.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WE VOTED ON THE BOND, NOT THE BUILDING.

AND THOUGH I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE ON THE TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, I'M NOT GOING TO PROPOSE TO UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYBODY VOTED THE WAY THAT THEY DID WHEN THEY VOTED NO. SOME PEOPLE DID IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND NINE MILLION DOLLARS.

SOME PEOPLE DID IT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

SOME PEOPLE DID IT BECAUSE WE HAD AN ANNEX ON THERE.

EVERYBODY HAD A DIFFERENT REASON.

AND MY ONLY CONCERN WITH LOOKING AT THIS, AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE, ARE CONTRACTORS SUCH AS MR. SPURGEON COST MONEY? AND SO SENDING IN A FEW REVISIONS BASED ON WHAT WE'VE GOT, IF WE DON'T HAVE MORE OF A SOLID IDEA, THAT'S GOING TO COST MONEY.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU PRESENT THAT.

I KNOW YOUR NEXT STEP IS, IS THE COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT YET.

YOU PRESENT THAT SAY WE HAVE A COMMITTEE AND THEY TOTALLY DESTROY IT.

WE'RE SPENDING MONEY AGAIN TO REVAMP THE PLANS AGAIN, AND WE'VE KIND OF BEEN DOWN THAT

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THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN WITH IT, IS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BENEFIT WOULD BE OF SPENDING MORE MONEY RIGHT NOW WITHOUT ALL OF THE EXTRA INFORMATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COLLECT NOW. AND I AGREE, RESIDENTS AND INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SPEND CITY TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE A GROUP OF INTERESTED CITIZENS WITH VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS THAT ARE WILLING TO GIVE INPUT, PROVIDE INPUT AND GET US IN THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO SO THAT WE CAN NARROW THINGS DOWN ON SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. OUR PRELIMINARY SUGGESTIONS AND OPINIONS, IT INDICATES THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO GIVE UP THEIR TIME AND TALENTS.

WE HAVE THREE NEEDS ASSESSMENTS IN ALREADY ON FILE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELIEVE THAT THOSE NEEDS ASSESSMENTS ARE ADEQUATE BUT THESE WERE DONE BY PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE THAT DO NEEDS ASSESSMENTS AND WHEN SOMEBODY THAT HASN'T DONE A NEEDS ASSESSMENT STARTS CRITIQUING IT AND I MEAN, I TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY LIKE THE CONCLUSION OF THOSE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE.

THE POINT BEING, WE HAVE A GROUP OF CITIZENS AND ANY RESIDENT OF PARKER IS WELCOME TO COME IN, LISTEN, GIVE THEIR OPINIONS AND AS WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER IN THESE MEETINGS, WE'RE STARTING TO MAKE HEADWAY.

WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS LOOKING AT VARIOUS ASPECTS FROM THE LAST NIGHT'S MEETING.

WE HAVE FIVE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE NEEDS ASSESSMENTS IN THE PAST.

THEY AND THEIR STAFF HAVE LOOKED AT WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, WHERE THEY NEED TO BE IN THE FUTURE, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, A MODERATE GROWTH TO EIGHT OR NINE THOUSAND MILLION, EIGHT OR NINE THOUSAND PEOPLE IN PARKER.

SO THAT PART HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

I BELIEVE IF PEOPLE TAKE IT AT FACE VALUE OR LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT THEY FEEL LIKE MAY BE INCORRECT.

BUT HERE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

AND THIS IS WHERE I HAD THE PROBLEM WITH THIS.

WE, THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR WERE ELECTED BY THE RESIDENTS OF PARKER TO SPEND THE CITY BUDGET TO ALLOCATE THE CITY BUDGET IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS.

WE WERE WE WERE GIVEN THE TASK TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP AND DIRECTION.

AND I THINK IT IS SO WRONG TO PUSH OFF OUR RESPONSIBILITY ONTO RESIDENTS THAT WERE NOT ELECTED. WE WERE THE ONES THAT WERE ELECTED AND TRUSTED WITH THOSE DECISION MAKING PROCESSES. HOW WE GO ABOUT IT, WE'RE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.

BUT FRANKLY, I THINK THIS PROPOSAL IS DESIGNED TO CIRCUMVENT THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I THINK IT'S OFFENSIVE AND I THINK IT'S OFFENSIVE BOTH TO THE COUNCIL AND TO OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THAT.

AND EVERYTHING THAT COUNCIL CINDY HAS TALKED ABOUT IS I UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF VIEW, HOWEVER, FROM BEING ON THE COUNCIL AND I HAVE ENGINEERING EXPERIENCE, BUT NOT IN CONSTRUCTION PER SAY.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS FAR AS MORE INVOLVEMENT AND WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION, AND I WANT TO SEE IT BOILED DOWN TO MORE OF AN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AS IN OFF OF TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BUT AN EXECUTIVE BRIEFING, I WILL CALL IT, LIKE YOU WOULD DO IN BUSINESS.

BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN YOU GET INTO AN OPEN MEETING AND THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT TOPICS IN THE MEETING YESTERDAY, THERE WAS A LOT OF MOVEMENT FORWARD, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF MOVEMENT BACKWARD AS WELL.

AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION CAN BE DIGESTED AND PULLED TOGETHER INTO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE EASILY COMPREHENDED SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

AND I AGREE, COUNSEL, WE WERE ELECTED TO DO THIS AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY AND I'LL TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY IN THE LEADERSHIP ROLE AS WELL AS I KNOW EVERYONE ELSE HERE WILL.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE DECISIONS TO GO FORTH WITH, NOT BE IN A DEBATE MANNER.

IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S DOWN TO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF YOU WERE IN A

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THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT WE'RE STILL AT THAT POINT YET. SO MY POINT BEING IS, IF YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED, THEN YOU DO HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT GOES OFF AND WORKS ON THESE THINGS SIMILAR TO A SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD.

YOU GET THIS INFORMATION BOILED DOWN SO THAT WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS AND MOVE FASTER? SO THAT'S MY POINT ON THOSE.

OK, DIANA, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES MADAM MAYOR, IT SEEMS LIKE THE DISCUSSION IS SLOWLY GOING ON TO ACTUALLY BE ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A BRIEF POINT ON THE ARCHITECT ISSUE.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN MEYER, AS WELL AS COUNCILMAN SLAUGHTER IN TERMS OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE SPENT ALREADY ON ARCHITECTURAL CONSULTATION REGARDING THE FACILITY HAS BEEN AS WE ALL KNOW QUITE A BIT.

AND TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE ARE IN A PROCESS WHERE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO DETERMINE THE MINUTIA, SEEMINGLY THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOTH INSIDE AND OUT, I THINK IT'S NOT FISCALLY APPROPRIATE TO TRY TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY RIGHT NOW WHEN WE ARE STILL IN TALKS, YOU KNOW, JUST THE BASIC SQUARE FOOT ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, OFTEN [INAUDIBLE] AND SO I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON HOW ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO INCORPORATE, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN DOING, CURRENTLY INCORPORATE ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE COME IN AND THEIR VIEWPOINT AND THEIR SUGGESTIONS, THEIR EXPERIENCE, AND THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT ALONG WITH THAT AND THEN DECIDE FROM THAT POINT ON THE [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN TRY TO FOCUS ON THE SUGGESTIONS OF HOW TO DO THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS ON THAT POINT ON.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD SPENDING OF CITIZEN'S TAX PAYING DOLLARS DO TRY TO DO THAT BEFORE ANY OF THE DETAILS ARE ACTUALLY FLESHED OUT.

OK, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE MOTION THAT WE ONLY DISCUSSED THE ITEM ONE WE HAVEN'T REALLY DISCUSSED ITEM TWO YET. WELL, SHE CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION IF SHE WISHES.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOT VOTE ON A CITIZEN'S ADVISORY COUNCIL AT THIS TIME AND ALLOW THE CITY TO AND THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE IN THE PATH THAT WE'RE GOING.

OK, WE HAVE A WELL, CAN I JUST ASK FOR SOME CLARITY, JUST FOR LORI'S SAKE? WERE YOU SAYING THAT YOU ARE MAKING A MOTION THAT WE AT THIS POINT NOT ESTABLISH A COMMITTEE OR THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU SAID NOT VOTE ON.

YES, I OK, LET ME CLARIFY THAT WE NOT ESTABLISH A CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX AT THIS TIME.

OK, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. MEYER THAT WE DO NOT ACCEPT A CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME IS, PARDON.

DO NOT ESTABLISH, DO NOT ESTABLISH, I'M SORRY.

DO NOT ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME.

IS THERE A SECOND? NOT HEARING A SECOND, MOTION DIES.

OK, MADAM MAYOR MAY I MAKE A FEW MORE COMMENTS FIRST WITH IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS ON THE ARCHITECT AND THAT WAS A STRUGGLE.

TIMING WISE WHICH DO WE DO FIRST? WHAT COMES FIRST THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG? AND THE REASON WE SAW THAT AS AN IMPORTANT THING TO GET DONE NOW IS TO TO BE ABLE TO DO TWO PATHS AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT RESIDENTS THAT WE CAN ALL LOOK AT AND PICTURE WHERE WE THINK WE ARE AT THE PRESENT TIME.

AND I HONESTLY THINK WE'RE SO CLOSE, I REALLY THINK WE'RE SO CLOSE TO TO AGREEMENT ON YEAH ON THIS THAT I'M INCORPORATING THE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN THE WORKSHOPS AS WELL AS IN IN OUR COUNCIL WORKSHOPS, YOU KNOW, WITH STAFF, SOME OF THEIR IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED.

I THINK WE COULD IT WOULD BE USEFUL.

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BUT I FEEL LIKE PRESENTING A PICTURE, A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.

AND UNTIL PEOPLE CAN SEE THE PICTURE RIGHT NOW, THEY KEEP SEEING, YOU KNOW, THEY KEEP SEEING THE OLD BOND INFORMATION AND IT'S NOT HELPFUL.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENT THERE WITH RESPECT TO YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT.

FIRST, WITH RESPECT TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I, I SEE YOUR YOUR VIEWPOINT.

WE AS A COUNCIL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THE DECISIONS, BUT WE NEED ASSISTANCE AND THE RESIDENTS ARE THE BEST PEOPLE TO ASSIST IN DOING THE INVESTIGATION, THE RESEARCH, THE KICKING THE CANS AND ASKING SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT HONESTLY, THROUGHOUT SINCE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, I HAVEN'T SEEN TOUGH QUESTIONS, BE ASKED AND ANSWERED AND PUT IN WRITING SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE SAYING.

WHAT IS THIS PROJECT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? HOW MANY OFFICES? YEAH HOW MANY STAFF ARE EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS GOING TO HAVE? HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOT? WHY DO THEY NEED THESE THINGS? WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHY YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF SHARED SPACES DO WE HAVE? THOSE THINGS ARE SO IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS TO GIVE US SOME INPUT TO HELP US.

THESE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN GOOD.

AND LAST NIGHT I REALLY IT WAS WONDERFUL SEEING THE RESIDENTS STEP UP AND SAY I'LL HELP.

BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS YOU'VE GOT INDIVIDUALS COMING BACK AND GIVING THEIR FEEDBACK WITHOUT THEM HAVING, YOU KNOW, OTHER RESIDENTS TO ENGAGE WITH TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE, TO, YOU KNOW, TO HELP THEM FLESH OUT THE DISCUSSION BEFORE IT COMES HERE SO THAT WHEN IT COMES HERE, THE RESIDENTS REALLY YOU KNOW, THEY'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THIS ISSUE.

WE KNOW WHAT THE POINTS ARE AND THIS IS THE WAY WE THINK IT NEEDS TO GO.

IT'S NOT MEANING THAT WE ARE DISAVOWING OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

WE STILL WILL BE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.

BUT, BOY, IT MAKES SUCH A DIFFERENCE TO GET THE RESIDENTS TO BUY IN AND TO YEAH.

TO GET THEIR EXPERTISE.

THAT'S WHERE WE CAN GET SOME EXPERTISE.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID, AND I REALLY DON'T SEE WHY THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHERE ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE INVITED CAN'T BE THE PLATFORM FOR DOING ACCOMPLISHING WHAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING AND WHAT WE ALL ARE ENVISIONING.

AND WE HAVE TO BE AND LET ME CAN I JUST FINISH, DIANA, WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIZED AND AS WE'RE GOING FROM MEETING TO MEETING WE SEE WHERE WE NEED TO START FOCUSING AND NARROWING THINGS DOWN.

BUT INVITING THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE CANNOT BE A BAD THING.

IT'S GOT TO BE A GOOD THING, AND RATHER THAN SETTING UP A SELECT GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HANDLE THE PROJECT, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOING THAT AND DOING WHAT WE LEARNED WAS THE WRONG WAY A YEAR AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO? OK DIANA, YES, IF I MAY STEP IN AS FAR AS THE MOTION THAT COUNCILWOMAN MEYER MADE, I WOULD SORT OF NOT EXPECTING THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE STILL ON THE SECTION ABOUT THE ARCHITECT. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MOTION WAS ABLE TO GET ON THE FLOOR WHEN WE WEREN'T EVEN DISCUSSING THAT TOPIC YET, BUT I LET MR. [INAUDIBLE] DECIDE THAT. BUT NOW THAT WE ARE ON THAT TOPIC AS PART OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED HEARING FROM RESIDENTS, I WOULD SAY EVEN A FEW MONTHS BACK BEFORE THE FACILITY MEETING, WE WERE HAVING THEM WITH MORE FREQUENCY.

THERE WAS TO ME AT LEAST, I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO ME BECAUSE FOR ME PERSONALLY, RESIDENTS THAT SPOKE TO ME THEY WERE LIKE, OH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A COMMITTEE. WELL, WHEN THESE MEETINGS BECAME MORE FREQUENT, WE OPENED IT UP TO THE ENTIRE CITY. PEOPLE STARTED SHOWING UP, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THERE'D BE MORE PEOPLE THAN OTHERS DURING [INAUDIBLE] MEETINGS AND OTHER MEETINGS.

BUT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS AT THAT POINT WAS WELL THESE MEETINGS INVOLVED EVERYONE IN THE

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THEY FEEL THAT WE'RE GETTING ADDRESSED.

THAT WAS THE FORUM THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS TOLD ME THAT THEY FELT COMFORTABLE THAT THEY WERE GETTING ADDRESSED THERE.

MY CONCERN IS ALSO A SIMILAR CONCERN THAT I VOICED PREVIOUSLY THAT HAVING A SPECIFIC COMMITTEE WHILE AT THE SOME TIME, IT SOUNDS GOOD TO, YOU KNOW, JUST AT FACE VALUE IT SOUNDS GREAT TO HAVE A CITIZEN COMMITTEE, MADE UP FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE, AND YOU'RE AN APPOINTED CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, ETC..

WE HAVE LEARNED THROUGH OUR HOME RULE COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY THAT NO KIND OF SITUATION, ESPECIALLY POLARIZING ISSUES LIKE [INAUDIBLE] AND NOW FACILITIES, THOSE COMMITTEES HAVE NOT PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN OUR CITY.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M AGAINST IT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, YOU KNOW, HISTORY, YOU HAVE TO LEARN FROM YOUR HISTORY AND WE HAVE LEARNED THAT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS PARTICULAR FORMAT THAT WE HAVE HAD RIGHT NOW WITH THE FACILITY MEETING, I THINK HAS BEEN MORE INCLUSIVE, MORE SUCCESSFUL.

THERE'S NOT ONE PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL THAT IS APPOINTED AT THE CHAIR TO OVERSEE EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING HAS TO BE YOU KNOW SO [INAUDIBLE] TO DO THAT INDIVIDUAL.

I THINK THAT IF WE OPEN IT UP TO A PARTICULAR COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY OUT, CERTAIN RESIDENTS [INAUDIBLE] NEIGHBORHOODS OUT.

I KNOW THOSE WERE CERTAIN CONCERNS, FROM PEOPLE BE FAVORED OVER OTHERS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I JUST DON'T WANT THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF INDICATION THAT WE'RE EITHER DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THEM AND I'M NOT SAYING [INAUDIBLE] IN THE STRONG SENSE OF THE WORD, BUT THAT WE'RE LEAVING CERTAIN PEOPLE OUT OR FAVORING OTHER PEOPLE OVER OTHER INDIVIDUALS. SO IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS IS BEING ADDRESSED THROUGH THESE MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING MORE INPUT, MORE INVOLVEMENT FROM RESIDENTS, SPECIALLY IN ONE THAT WE HAD YESTERDAY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN LIEU OF A ACTUAL FORMALIZED CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU HAD ASKED TO SPEAK AFTER TERRY.

OK, OK, I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF RUN THROUGH BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, SO I'LL JUST HIT ONE AND THEN THE OTHER BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOT AN OPINION. THE I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION ON KENT DRAFTING A NEW FLOORPLAN, AND I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST.

THE OLD FLOORPLAN IS IRRELEVANT AT THIS POINT IN MY OPINION THAT BOND DIED AGAIN, WE WEREN'T EVEN VOTING ON THAT FLOOR PLAN.

WE WERE VOTING ON THE BOND. BUT THAT'S DEAD.

SO IF PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, AMANDA HAS DRAFTED SIX VERSIONS OF HERS.

I THINK IT IS, OR SEVEN, NINE.

I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN QUITE A FEW THAT I'VE RECEIVED, AND THEY'RE AMAZING, BY THE WAY.

BUT THAT, I FEEL LIKE, IS KIND OF A FREE APPROACH TO NAILING OUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

AN ARCHITECT LOOKS MUCH MORE MATHEMATICALLY INTO THE DRAWING, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET FOR HIM TO START MAKING ADDITIONS AND IN DRIVING WALL THICKNESSES AND DETERMINING SUPPORT AND ACTUALLY DRAFTING OUT THE INITIAL FLOOR PLAN THAT WILL TURN INTO PLANS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE BUILDING.

KIND OF GOING ON THE THE COMMITTEE IN GENERAL, CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT, I'M 100 PERCENT BEHIND. I'VE NEVER SAID IN ANY WAY THAT I THINK THAT THE COMMITTEE A COMMITTEE COULD HURT. I DO AGREE WITH WHAT OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SAID.

WE KIND OF STARTED THAT YESTERDAY WITH ASSIGNING OUT JOBS AND OUR RESIDENTS STEPPED UP AND THEY REALLY DID.

THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE WITH THIS THAT IS BEEN BROUGHT, AND IT WAS WELL TYPED OUT AND WELL THOUGHT THROUGH, I CAN SEE.

BUT KIND OF WHAT I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER WITH THE ARCHITECT AND MAYOR PRO TEM MEYER ECHOED. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY IN HERE FOR A COMMITTEE TO SPEND CITY MONEY WITHOUT ANY APPROVAL, SUCH AS WORK WITH THE ARCHITECT.

EVERY TIME YOU CALL HIM, IT COSTS US MONEY.

HE'S ON AN HOURLY CLOCK, JUST LIKE AN ATTORNEY WOULD BE OR OUR ENGINEER.

IT ALSO GIVES THE AUTHORITIES FOUR SUBCOMMITTEES THAT CAN SOLICIT RESIDENT AND NONRESIDENT EXPERTS.

WE MIGHT HAVE THAT GOOD FRIEND WHO WILL HELP OUT BUT IN GENERAL, TO ME, THE CONCERN WITH THAT IS THAT GIVES THE AUTHORITY FOR WHOEVER IS ON THAT COMMITTEE TO GO OUT AND FIND AN ARCHITECT OR FIND SOMEBODY LIKE MR. TERRELL THAT WAS HERE YESTERDAY AND GET THE CITY A BILL.

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IT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT WE BUILD BEFORE WE COME UP WITH AN AMOUNT OF MONEY.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE AN AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I MY CONCERN IS THAT WHEN I LOOK AT THE ORGANIZATION OF THIS, WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, THERE'S NO LIMIT TO THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE HAVE DONE THE INFORMAL MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD HERE AND I APPRECIATE ANY PARKER RESIDENT CAN BE A MEMBER OF IT.

THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WILL VOTE IN AN OPEN MEETING ON THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND SECRETARY. ARE WE ACKNOWLEDGING THE MEMBERS, ARE WE HAVING TO APPOINT THEM AS A COUNCIL? IF WE'RE DOING THAT, DOES EVERYBODY HAVE TO APPLY TO BE ON THIS? BECAUSE ONE MEETING YOU MIGHT HAVE THIRTY FIVE PEOPLE.

THE NEXT MEETING YOU MIGHT HAVE THREE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WE'VE ALL SEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GET MEETING OUT.

THE OTHER PART THAT I HAD A CONCERN WITH IS THE CHAIR WILL BE THE OFFICIAL LIAISON WITH AND AVAILABLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHICH TO ME, READING THIS EXCLUDES COUNSEL FROM THE COMMITTEE, WHICH HAS BEEN ONE THING I'VE BEEN AGAINST SINCE IT WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP BY A CITIZEN AT THE BEGINNING.

I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH COMMITTEES, BUT I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IGNORING THE FACT WE ARE ALSO RESIDENTS AND EXCLUDING COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I AGREE WITH YOU I DO FEEL LIKE THIS DOES THAT. YOU KNOW, THE POSITION THAT I'VE ALWAYS TAKEN IS WHEN YOU ELECT SOMEBODY, THEY'RE NOT YOUR LEADER, THEY'RE YOUR REPRESENTATIVE.

AND MY JOB IS NOT TO LEAD THE CITY.

MY JOB IS TO REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS REQUESTS.

AND IN DOING SO, THAT LEADS THE CITY FORWARD.

AND I FEEL LIKE IT LIMITS MY SAY ON IT, WHICH I FIND SOMEWHAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE INTENTION, BUT THAT WOULD BE OFFENSIVE TO ME TO SAY I CAN'T BE A MEMBER OF A COMMITTEE THAT IS DETERMINING SOMETHING THAT LONG AFTER I'M ON COUNCIL, I'M PAYING FOR.

AND SO I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH WITH THOSE ITEMS IN AS FAR AS THAT GOES, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF I IF THIS WERE TO COME TO FRUITION, I WOULD HAVE ENVISIONED THAT THIS WOULD THIS COMMITTEE WOULD COME BACK TO OUR OPEN MEETINGS AND SHARE WITH ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND NOT BE A COUNCIL THING.

WE STILL HAVE OUR OPEN MEETINGS BECAUSE COUNCIL GETS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS AT THE END OF THE DAY OF WHAT GOES ON THE BALLOT.

I MEAN, COUNCIL HAS A LOT OF OPTIONS WHEN WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND THAT'S KIND OF OUR JOB. BUT THE IDEAS OF THIS COMMITTEE, I WOULD WANT TO SEE THIS COMMITTEE COMING TO THE OPEN MEETINGS THAT WE'RE ALREADY HAVING THAT ENCOMPASS EVERYBODY WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO WANT TO GO TO A COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT STILL HAVE AN OPINION SO THAT THE COMMITTEE CAN BE THE ONE TO PROVIDE US THE BACKGROUND ON ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION SO COUNCIL CAN BE INVOLVED SO THAT THE CITIZENS CAN BE INVOLVED SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN.

AND IMPORTANTLY, COUNCILMAN HAS OUR KIND OF OUR FINGERS ON THE PULSE OF SAYING, WELL, IF YOU WANT AN ARCHITECT, THEN HE CAN COME TO THAT MEETING BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS TO CHOOSE TO SPEND THAT MONEY. IF YOU WANT AN ENGINEER, WELL, HE CAN COME TO THAT MEETING SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FREE FOR ALL IN SPENDING, AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY WHERE COMMITTEES HAVE SPENT MONEY AND NOT REALIZED THEY WERE SPENDING MONEY AND THAT I DON'T WANT THAT TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THOSE NICKELS AND DIMES ADD UP AND MY JOB IS TO BE THE STEWARD FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR TAX DOLLARS.

AND, YOU KNOW, SPENDING A DOLLAR TO SAVE A DIME KIND OF COMES TO MIND.

AND I DON'T WANT TO RUN INTO THAT SITUATION.

SO THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHTS ON IT.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, KENT, AND KIND OF CIRCLING BACK TO THAT.

KENT IS A GREAT GUY.

HE'S AN AMAZING ARCHITECT.

I HAVE NO CONCERNS IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO MOVING FORWARD.

I AM, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, AND THIS IS IN NO WAY CONFRONTATIONAL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE INITIALLY WHEN THIS BOND WAS RUNNING BEFORE YOU WERE ON COUNCIL, MS. LYNCH, YOU WERE AGAINST MR. SPURGEON AND I BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK HE WAS QUALIFIED.

SO YOU HAVE SEEN STUFF NOW THAT MAKES YOU BELIEVE HE IS QUALIFIED.

YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH HIM MOVING FORWARD? WITH RESPECT TO MR. SPURGEON AND AS I MENTIONED, I HAVE RECEIVED THE YEAH HIS BIO WITH ALL OF HIS WITH ALL OF THE PROJECTS HE'S WORKED ON AND I'VE IN OUR MEETINGS IN COUNCIL WORKSHOPS, TALKING TO THE STAFF AND LISTENING TO THE STAFF AND YET THEIR IMPRESSIONS AND EXPERIENCES WITH MR. SPURGEON AS WELL AS MS. KNOWS EXPERIENCES AND IMPRESSIONS WITH MR. SPURGEON. I AM NOT AN EXPERT OF WHO THE EXPERT SHOULD BE, BUT THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON THE PROJECT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL AND, YOU KNOW, AND HIS RESUME, HE SAYS HE'S BEEN DOING THIS KIND OF WORK.

SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO WHAT OUR STAFF IS

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WHAT OUR STAFF IS TELLING US, NOT WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US, WHAT THEIR FEEDBACK, THEY'RE NOT TELLING ME ANYTHING, THEY'RE JUST GIVING FEEDBACK ABOUT THEIR THEIR EXPERIENCES.

WELL, WITH MR. SPURGEON I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU LOST ME. AND I WOULD LIKE BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER REED AND COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE THE ONES WHO BROUGHT THIS COMMITTEE.

AND LIKE I SAID, I AM 100 PERCENT ON BOARD WITH CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT HOWEVER THAT HAPPENS.

I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THIS DESIGN, THIS LAYOUT, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS THAT OUR RESIDENTS, WITHOUT KNOWING IT, WOULD BE EMPOWERED TO SPEND MONEY.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT IT WOULD ELIMINATE SOME OF US AS FAR AS COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT, WHICH I KNOW THAT WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE IDEAS, WE HAVE THOUGHTS, WE HAVE THINGS THAT COME UP.

AND TO HEAR THOSE FIRSTHAND, A LOT OF TIMES HELPS TO SHAPE OUR OPINIONS AS WELL.

THAT'S HOW WE KNOW WHO WE REPRESENT, AS OPPOSED TO A COMMITTEE OF FIVE OR TEN PEOPLE.

WE REPRESENT THE FIVE THOUSAND THIRTY SIX PEOPLE THAT ARE ESTIMATED IN PARKER.

WE REPRESENT ALL OF THEM.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE HAVE THAT SAY AS WELL, YEAH, I THINK ALL THE POINTS YOU BROUGHT UP, COUNCILMAN SLAUGHTER ARE VERY VALID.

AND JUST TO KIND OF BOTTOM LINE THIS, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR TERRY, BUT I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. ALL I WANT WITH THIS OR ALL OF MY VISION IS FOR THIS IS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL INVOLVEMENT. ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP YESTERDAY IN THE MEETING WAS THAT THE LOCATION OF THE SITE WHERE A MEETING MIGHT BE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DETERRENT FOR SOMEBODY DOING SOMETHING OR NOT DOING SOMETHING.

SO MY OPINION ON IT IS THAT ON AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING, IT'S A LITTLE MORE OF A INFORMAL PROCESS TO KIND OF GO THROUGH.

MORE IDEAS CAN BE THROWN OUT.

I THINK IT GIVES ANOTHER FORUM FOR US TO BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE FOLD AND ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO THE DETAILS OF THE, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WAS STRUCTURED WAS BASED ON WHAT OUR OTHER COMMITTEE MEETINGS OR STRUCTURE AS AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE FRAMEWORK OF THIS BETWEEN COUNCILMAN, LYNCH AND MYSELF, WE PUT THAT TOGETHER TO NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL, BUT THE STRUCTURE OF IT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, TO ME, I'M FINE WITH ANY AMENDMENTS THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO PUT FORTH.

I JUST WANT TO SEE A LITTLE MORE HOMEWORK BEING DONE.

YOU KNOW, IN MY MEETINGS, I DID MISS ONE OF THE REVIEW MEETINGS, BUT I KNOW I LOOKED AT THE MINUTES AND THE ATTENDANCE WAS FAIRLY LOW ON THAT ONE.

SO REALLY, THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD LAST NIGHT WAS THE ONE WHERE WE REALLY HAD SOME PRETTY GOOD ATTENDANCE AND WE ACTUALLY HAD ACTIONS DRIVEN D I THINK THAT I ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO DO THAT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND THE REASON I DID THAT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T DO THAT AND YOU DON'T HAVE INFORMATION WHERE YOU CAN BOIL IT DOWN TO BULLET POINTS WHERE PEOPLE GO OUT AND DO THINGS, IT TAKES A VERY LONG TIME FOR IT TO GET DONE. SO BY HAVING MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND MORE IDEAS COMING IN AND MORE EXPERTISE, I THINK YOU MOVE FASTER.

AND THAT'S MY TOTAL OBJECTIVE HERE, IS TO DO THAT.

AND I WANT TO FACILITATE THAT IN THE WAY THAT WE CAN NOW AGREE.

I MEAN, WE CAN THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT'S BEEN A LOT OF TRIAL AND, YOU KNOW, PUT THIS IN, TAKE THIS OUT AND TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS WORKABLE AND YOUR POINTS ARE ALL VERY, VERY VALID.

WE CAN EASILY I THINK WE COULD EASILY MAKE CHANGES FOR THOSE TO ENSURE THAT NO EXPENDITURES ARE MADE.

YEAH, I MEAN, THAT WAS NEVER OUR INTENT, THAT THIS BEING AN AVENUE THAT PEOPLE COULD CHARGE THE CITY. BUT I I'VE LEARNED THAT YOU NEED TO BE SURE THAT TO INFORM PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THAT AS WELL, AND THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN IN IN THIS DOCUMENT.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID EARLIER COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT IF A SUCH A COMMITTEE WAS FORMED, THERE WOULD BE NO COST TO THE CITY.

THIS IS QUITE COSTLY TO THE CITY.

AND NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF COSTS SUCH AS THE ARCHITECT THAT STAFF TIME AT ONE PLACE, YOU EVEN HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT A WEB, WE MIGHT HAVE TO HIRE A WEB DESIGNER, WEB PERSON, THAT WAS SOMETHING FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DO IN THEIR CAPACITY.

BUT I MEAN, THIS TAKES UP A LOT OF STAFF.

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OK, PATTI IS THIS TAKES UP A LOT OF YOU'VE GOT THE STAFF DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS IN HERE AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OUR STAFF DOES HAVE OTHER THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO. I'M NOT SAYING THIS ISN'T IMPORTANT.

I'M NOT SAYING THE STAFF ISN'T WILLING TO HELP.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED IN THIS.

AND I GUESS I'M NOT QUITE SEEING BECAUSE I SEE THOSE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS THAT, YOU ASSIGNED TO DIFFERENT THINGS LAST NIGHT WOULD BE THE SAME TYPE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE KIND OF THE SAME PERSON THAT YES, THE SAME QUESTIONS WOULD COME FROM THAT INDIVIDUAL AND THEN THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD TAKE THAT INFORMATION TO THIS COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS. OK, I'M SORRY.

OK, CITY WEBSITE, SHALL HAVE INFORMATION WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX FOR RESIDENTS COMMITTEE. HOW DO YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO GET ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE? WELL, AND PERHAPS WE CAN YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THESE ARE ITEMS WE CAN WE CAN ADDRESS, AS TOO, THESE ARE COST, WELL, MAYBE, YEAH, THE RESIDENT COMMITTEE WOULD WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON THEIR OWN THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY AWAY FROM THE CITY.

WELL, I'M JUST SAYING YOU HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE AND I DON'T HAVE A BUDGET WITH THIS. MADAM MAYOR, IF I MIGHT INTERJECT JUST FOR ONE SECOND TO KIND OF MAYBE KEEP US ON TRACK AND THESE ARE VALID QUESTIONS.

BUT WHAT COUNCILMAN SLAUGHTER HAD TALKED ABOUT IS THAT IF THE INFORMATION IS FUNNELED BACK THROUGH THE EXISTING COMMITTEES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SET UP NOW, NOW THAT WOULD BE TRANSPARENT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WITHIN THAT CLEARINGHOUSE.

SO THE INFORMATION COMES IN, COMES THROUGH THEM, AND ANYTHING THAT GETS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE THROUGH THOSE MEETINGS.

AGAIN, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A WAY TO KIND OF CATALYZE THIS THING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT SOMETIMES YOU ALL HAVE TALKED OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH, OH, IF YOU DO THIS, THERE'LL BE NO COST TO THE CITY.

WELL, THEN YOU COME UP WITH THIS, WHICH IS THE EXACT PROPOSAL THAT WE HAD IN THE PAST.

WE STARTED IT IN 2018 AND TERRY, YOU WERE OUR HARSHEST CRITIC DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME ON THAT ON THE COMMITTEE, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAME DO A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, AS DID MR. CORDINA AND OTHER PEOPLE, BUT YOU WERE VERY HARSH ON YOUR CRITICISM OF WHY YOU DIDN'T WORK. SO I HAVE TO LOOK AND I THINK, GEE, THIS IS THE SAME THING.

WHAT'S DIFFERENT? BUT THIS DOES INVOLVE MUCH MORE WITH A LOT OF COST TO THE CITY AND THE COST TO THE STAFF.

AND I HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IF I GET LUKE HERE SO OVERLOADED, HE DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT CONTRACT, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, AND I'M I'M NOT SAYING IT'S I'M JUST ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THE BUDGET THAT GOES WITH THIS? SO AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, BECAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A PAIN ABOUT THIS, BUT I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING A MEETING LIKE LAST NIGHT AND AT A MEETING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE, BECAUSE ALL THE RESIDENTS OF PARKER WERE INVITED.

NOW, WHETHER THEY COME OR NOT, IT'S UP TO THEM.

THEY WERE ALL INVITED TO PARTICIPATE.

THE ONLY THING I CAN SEE IS AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE MEETINGS, THEY NEED TO BE BETTER ORGANIZED AND HAVE DIRECTION.

AND AS WE LEARN, WE'RE LEARNING TO DO THAT.

SO WHY CAN'T YOUR CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE JUST BE WHAT WE'RE HAVING NOW WHERE EVERYBODY IT'S NOT SELECT GROUP SELECT PEOPLE.

OK, WELL, IT'S NOT SELECT PEOPLE.

ANYBODY CAN PARTICIPATE, WHETHER THEY ARE ON A COMMITTEE OR NOT ON THE COMMITTEE.

EVERYBODY'S EQUAL IN THIS CITY.

THEY'RE ALL TAXPAYERS.

AGAIN, MADAM MAYOR, IF I STEP IN OK, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN MEYER ON THAT BECAUSE AS I READING THROUGH THE PROPOSAL HERE THAT YOU HAVE.

I MEAN IT'S JUST LIKE SHE SAID IT'S OPEN TO ANY PARKER RESIDENT AND THERE'S NO LIMIT OF NUMBER OF MEMBERS.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT YOU'RE OPENING, YOU'RE BASICALLY VOTING ON A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR

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SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE DEALING WITH THOSE SAME CHALLENGES FACING THE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE MADE UP OF THE COMPOSITION OF THE SAME, IT IS RESIDENTS FROM OUR FROM OUR CITY THAT ARE GOING TO BE SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE? I JUST LIKE TO WORK ON COMMISSION AND THERE ARE POLARIZING VIEWS WHETHER WE WANT TO ADMIT THAT OR NOT. THERE'S A GOOD GROUP OF RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY THAT ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE CITY COUNCIL WANT, YOU GUYS WERE ELECTED, DO IT, AND THERE'S A BIG GROUP THAT ARE SAYING, NO, WE NEED TO HAVE INVOLVEMENT IN EVERY INTRICATE DETAIL OF THE BUILDING, AND I'M NOT SAYING I AGREE OR DISAGREE ON EITHER ONE, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE PRACTICAL IF WE HAVE A COMMITTEE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A POLARIZING PERSONALITY, POLARIZING VIEWS AND HOW IS ANY PROGRESS GOING TO BE DONE IN THAT FORMAT? VERSUS A FROM WHAT I AGREE IS NOT AS STRUCTURED AS WE AS YOU WOULD THINK THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE WITH THIS OPEN FORMAT OF A FACILITY MEETING OR [INAUDIBLE] MEETING WHERE EVERYBODY COMES IN. WE'RE ABLE TO MORE OR LESS CONTROL THAT IN A SENSE TO WHERE WE CAN [INAUDIBLE] ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE THERE.

WE CAN BOUNCE IDEAS OFF.

[INAUDIBLE] ALL I'M SAYING IS I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WHEN SIX MONTHS DOWN THE LINE, THE COMMITTEE REALLY HASN'T MADE ANY PROGRESS ON THE FACILITY BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T AGREE ON HOW MANY SQUARE FEET.

[INAUDIBLE] LET ME MAKE A QUICK COMMENT TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE, DIANA, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THE POINT BEING IS THAT I THINK THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN, IS THAT, AGAIN, THE OPEN MEETINGS HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC AND I THINK THEY YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST ONE, I THINK WE'VE MADE SOME STEPS FORWARD, BUT THEY MOVE TOO SLOW IN MY BUSINESS WHAT I DO AND THAT IS OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE'RE HERE AT CITY. BUT I THINK THE SAME PRINCIPLES CAN BE PUT IN PLACE IS THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE INFORMATION THAT IS PRESENTED TO A GROUP SO THAT YOU CAN FLESH THINGS OUT IN THAT FORUM, AND THEN YOU BRING IT TO ANOTHER GROUP, WHICH WOULD BE THE GROUP LIKE WE HAD LAST NIGHT.

AND THEN YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE AND YOU ADD ACTIONS.

YOU DUMP THAT BACK, YOU LET THAT BREW, YOU BRING IT BACK AND YOU ADD.

AND MY CONCERN IS THAT I HAVE DONE THIS MANY, MANY TIMES IN MANY, MANY FORUMS ON VERY LARGE PROJECTS THAT MAKE THIS CITY MUNICIPAL BUILDING SEEM LIKE CHILD'S PLAY.

YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING LIKE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PROJECTS WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING FACILITIES. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE INFORMATION THAT IS BROUGHT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPERTISE AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE BULLET ITEMS THAT YOU KNOCK OFF.

AND THEN YOU WOULD BRING THAT ALL BACK TO A CENTRALIZED LOCATION, WHICH I THINK THE FORUM THAT IS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW WILL BE PERFECT FOR THAT.

AND THEN YOU MOVE FORWARD, YOU TICK THOSE ITEMS OFF, YOU CAN PUT IT BACK TO THAT.

YOU COME BACK AGAIN.

AND WHAT MY FEAR IS, IS THAT THIS IS JUST MY EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE SO FAR, LIKE WHAT AMANDA KNOW HAS DONE HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.

BUT NOW I HAVE SEEN THAT PRESENTATION WITH DIFFERENT VERSIONS ABOUT FIVE TIMES NOW.

AND WE'RE STILL KIND OF DELIBERATING ON THAT.

IN MY WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS, WE WOULD BE PAST THAT ALREADY.

WE'D HAVE THOSE THINGS FIGURED OUT.

I MEAN, WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE AUGUSTS NOW, YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE. SO SO MY POINT BEING IS THAT I WANT IT TO GO FASTER.

AND I THINK THAT MAKING IT GO FASTER, I DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE ANYBODY.

I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE INVOLVED.

BUT I THINK WE NEED DIFFERENT AREAS.

THERE'S TACTICAL ISSUES AND THERE'S STRATEGIC ISSUES.

AND THE TACTICAL ISSUES AND STRATEGIC ISSUES ARE HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.

AND WHEN YOU DO THE ALL THESE TACTICAL ISSUES, SOMEBODY NEW SHOWS UP AT THE MEETING AND THEY THROW OUT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND YOU GO BACKWARDS FOR A HALF HOUR OF AN HOUR OF PRODUCTIVE MEETING.

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE.

THAT STUFF NEEDS TO BE FLESHED OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND BOILED DOWN SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. AND THAT'S MY ONLY OBJECTIVE WITH THE DIFFERENT FORUM.

WELL, EARLIER, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN JUNE OR SO, WE WERE TOLD WE WERE MOVING TOO FAST WE NEEDED TO SLOW DOWN WE HAD TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING AND NOW WE'RE NOT MOVING FAST I'M SORRY I JUST GET CONFUSED.

NOW AND MAYBE IT DOES SOUND CONFUSING.

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AND WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE AMANDA CAME IN AND STARTED BRINGING DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO THE TABLE. AND THAT OPENED UP A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND A LOT OF NEW IDEAS THAT HAVE KIND OF MOVED US FORWARD. SO IF I THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS CONFUSE THE SITUATION, THE ONLY THING I SEE YOU ADDING LAYERS OF BUREAUCRACY FOR WANT OF A BETTER TERM, WE WILL HAVE THIS COMMITTEE, THEN WE'LL HAVE THIS COMMITTEE, THEN WE'LL HAVE THIS AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK. AND I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING SUCCESSFUL PERSONALLY.

WELL, MAYBE I'LL SAY IT THIS WAY, AND YOU MAY DISAGREE WITH ME, BUT I MEAN EVERY ORGANIZATION I HAVE EVER BEEN PART OF, THERE IS A DEPARTMENT HEAD.

THERE MIGHT BE A CEO, THERE MIGHT BE A VP, A DEPARTMENT HEAD.

YOU HAVE A MANAGER AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS IS DOING THE TACTICAL KIND OF THINGS AT THAT LEVEL. AND EVERY ORGANIZATION THAT'S SUCCESSFUL, THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.

SO WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT I'M SEEING THAT WE'RE A ONE ROOM SCHOOLHOUSE AND EVERYBODY COMES IN AND MAYBE SOMEBODY ONLY ATTENDED ONE MEETING.

AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO ATTEND ANY MEETINGS THAT YOU WANT TO.

AND WE WANT ANY EXPERTISE THAT WE CAN GET.

BUT MY POINT BEING IS THAT IF SOMEBODY CAME IN AND THEY WERE INTERJECTING SOMETHING IN IS SOMETHING THAT WE FLESHED OUT ALREADY, WE COULD PROVIDE SOME BULLET POINTS TO THAT PERSON, SAY, HEY, HERE'S THIS, HERE'S THIS OR THIS.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? AND YOU MOVE FORWARD AND YOU ADD TO IT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A HIERARCHY OF HOW RESPONSIBILITIES ARE SET, IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET THINGS DONE.

AND THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST HOW I HAVE ALWAYS DONE THINGS.

AND MAYBE THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ANYBODY ELSE, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I'VE SEEN IT.

OK, I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THE POINTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER REID MADE.

YOU KNOW, LAST NIGHT, A LOT OF QUESTIONS WERE BROUGHT UP AND BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE LAST THREE MEETINGS. WE OWE A DUTY TO OUR RESIDENTS TO EXPLAIN TO WHOEVER IT IS.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU THERE. THE I STILL STAND BEHIND THE CONCERNS THAT I GUESS I JUST I, I SEE THE BENEFITS OF THIS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW IT WOULD WORK IN WITH THE GROUP THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE CONFLICTING PERSONALITIES AND PARKER IS A UNIQUE ANIMAL, AND THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT. ONE PERSON CAN BE BEHIND SOMETHING.

AND IF THAT PERSON IS NOT LIKED, EVEN IF IT'S THE BEST IDEA IN THE WORLD, IT WILL GET DESTROYED. AND YOU HAVE FACTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS ALWAYS HAD.

YOU'VE GOT CLIQUES. THE CITY HAS ALWAYS HAD.

I MEAN, WE ARE WE'RE LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL IN SOME WAYS.

AND THERE THOSE COME OUT A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ALL ONE BIG DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT SOMETIMES WE DON'T LIKE WHAT WHAT COUSIN JIM HAS TO SAY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, MY CONCERNS HERE IS I DON'T WANT EXCLUSION.

I DO WANT A BUILDING TO BE DONE.

BUT I COME BACK TO IT THAT MY CONCERNS WITH WHAT IS BEING EMPLOYED OF THIS GROUP, IF WE'RE WASTING THEIR TIME AT THE END OF THE DAY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER THING I DON'T WANT TO DO IS WASTE RESIDENCE TIME, BECAUSE WHEN YOU DECIDE TO GO BUY A CAR, YOU DON'T GO LOOK AT ALL THE CARS AND THEN DETERMINE HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND.

YOU DETERMINE HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND.

THEN YOU GO BUY A CAR WHEN YOU WENT TO BUY YOUR HOUSE AND YOU'VE LIVED HERE FOR TWENTY YEARS. BUT WHEN YOU GO TO BUY A HOUSE, THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH HOUSE CAN YOU AFFORD. THEN YOU GO OUT AND BUY A HOUSE.

YOU MIGHT LOVE THE HOUSE IN HIGHLAND PARK, THE SEVENTEEN MILLION DOLLARS, BUT YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE HOUSE IN HIGHLAND PARK, THE SEVENTEEN MILLION DOLLARS.

AND SO I IT THIS GROUP, LIKE I SAID, THIS GROUP HERE, I CAN SEE KIND OF WHAT MR. WILLIAMS HAD SAID EARLIER.

AND I DON'T MEAN TO PICK ON YOU. YOU WERE THE ONE WHO PUBLICLY, PUBLICLY YOU SPOKE EARLIER. BUT I SEE WHAT HE WAS SAYING BY SAYING SOME OF THE STUFF IS KIND OF ALREADY SET LAST NIGHT. AND TO HAVE A GROUP LIKE THIS THAT COULD DO THOSE THINGS, I AM ACTUALLY NOT AGAINST BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT IS BRINGING IN CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT.

BUT MY CONCERNS WOULD BE JUST READING THIS AND I CONTINUE TO READ IT AND I'VE READ IT MULTIPLE TIMES. I MEAN, EVEN THE VERY LAST LINE I BRING UP WHAT MADAME MAYOR HAD MENTIONED ABOUT OUR STAFF AND HOW STRETCHED EVERYBODY IS RIGHT NOW.

IT SAYS CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS MEYER AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMITTEE AND ITS MEMBERS TO DISCUSS IDEAS, INPUT OR DIRECTION.

I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT THERE'S NO LIMITATIONS ON IT.

SO WE CAN'T ALL BE AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME.

WE CAN'T WE CAN'T HAVE LUKE DROP EVERYTHING AT THE DROP OF A PEN TO DO THAT.

SO TO DO THIS, I FEEL LIKE THERE HAS TO BE SOME LIMITATIONS IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE BROUGHT TO US. THIS PROPOSAL HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BY MULTIPLE RESIDENTS SINCE I'VE SAT ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS.

AND THE ONES THAT HAVE BROUGHT IT UP HAVE ALL SAID IT WOULDN'T BE AT A COST TO THE RESIDENTS AND WE WOULDN'T TAKE STAFF TIME AND WE WOULD GO OUT AND DO RESEARCH ON OUR OWN.

AND I'VE BEEN A PROPONENT OF THAT.

THAT'S WHY ORIGINALLY WITH WITH MR.

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AND I KNOW I ASKED THAT TO YOU, MR. LEVINE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT, TO SEE WHETHER THAT IS SOMETHING A COUNCIL MEMBER INDIVIDUALLY CAN FORM OR IF WE NEED A COUNCIL APPROVAL.

SO SINCE YOU'VE ASKED THE QUESTION TO, YOU KNOW, LET ME MAKE AN OBSERVATION AND THEN LET ME MAKE A COMMENT TO MY OBSERVATION IS, AT SOME POINT I COULD DEFINITELY DRAFT COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER'S MOTION BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHICH YOU MOVE FOR.

BUT AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT AND NO ONE'S ASKED ME HERE TO FOR TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION OR TO PUT ANYTHING TOGETHER THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY APPROVE, BUT YOU'VE GOT HERE THAT ANY PARKER RESIDENT, SO YOU'RE ASKING TO FORM A COMMITTEE THAT ANYONE CAN BE ON WITH NO LIMITS TO MEMBERS AND THERE'S NO DESIGNATION IN HERE AS TO WHAT AUTHORITY THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE. NOW, THAT'S NOT A COMMENT ON WHETHER A COMEDY IS A GOOD IDEA OR A BAD IDEA, BUT IT'S A COMMENT THAT YOUR CITY COUNCIL, YOUR CITY ATTORNEY, IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION THAT CAPTURES ALL THAT THIS EVENING UNLESS WE SPEND SOME TIME TO WRITE IT DOWN. SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO FORM A COMMITTEE? YEAH, IT'S THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE, CERTAINLY LEGALLY POSSIBLE TO FORM A COMMITTEE, BUT I CAN'T DO IT OFF THIS SHEET RIGHT HERE.

THAT'S THAT'S THE FIRST OBSERVATION.

SECOND OBSERVATION THAT YOU MADE IS AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY FREE TO GO OUT AT YOUR OWN ACCORD AND COLLECT ANY INFORMATION OR MEET WITH ANY GROUP OF CITIZENS AND COLLECT ANY DATA YOU SEE FIT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS YOU FROM DOING THAT.

THERE'S LAWS THAT PROHIBIT YOU FOR MEETING IN A QUORUM.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO THIS AND THE POINT WE WOULD MAKE TO THIS IS GOING BACK I GUESS, COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER'S COMMENT IS, IS YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THINGS.

RESIDENTS GENERALLY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THINGS EXCEPT TO VOTE FOR YOU ALL.

AND SO THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME LEVEL OF CLARITY GOING ON.

WHO ARE WE APPOINTING TO THIS COMMITTEE? WHAT AUTHORITY DO THEY HAVE, WHETHER IT BE BUDGETARY OR DECISION OR ADVISORY? ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD NEED TO BE SPELLED OUT SPECIFICALLY.

IT JUST DEPENDS WHAT THE GOAL IS.

I'M NOT HERE TO COMMENT POLITICALLY ON ANYTHING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE CONSENSUS IS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO GATHER AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU CAN, WHETHER IT BE FROM PROFESSIONALS OR RESIDENTS, WHICH I THINK IS A LAUDABLE GOAL.

I DON'T, I'D HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A MOTION IN A RESOLUTION TO SEE HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.

I'D HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DRAFT THAT.

IF YOU MADE A MOTION TONIGHT THAT SAYS I WANT TO APPROVE A COMMITTEE THAT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE [INAUDIBLE] ON THE PIECE OF PAPER, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR LORI TO GATHER THAT MOTION, BUT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO COMPREHEND THAT. SO IT'S CERTAINLY LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE FOR YOU TO CREATE A COMMITTEE.

BUT IT IT'S GOT TO BE CLEAR WHO'S GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

AND YOUR REVIEW WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR APPOINTING THOSE PERSONS.

YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THE CITIZENS, I MEAN, THE CITIZENS ARE FREE TO FORM THEIR OWN GROUP, CERTAINLY. BUT ACTING UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY AS A COMMITTEE THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY, YOU'VE GOT TO IDENTIFY WHO THOSE FOLKS ARE, WHAT AUTHORITY THEY HAVE OR DON'T HAVE.

AND IS THERE IF YOU GOT FINANCES IN THE BUDGET TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO DO, THOSE THINGS WOULD NEED TO BE SPELLED OUT CLEARLY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN LEVINE, ONE QUESTION.

HOW ARE WE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW THEN? IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S AN OPEN MEETING DIDN'T ATTEND THE MEETING LAST NIGHT SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT OCCURRED.

BUT YOU ARE YOU WOULD BE YOU WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FREE TO PUT THE MATTER ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND THAT ANYONE, ANY GROUP THAT WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK, YOU CAN MAKE IT A WORKSHOP AND LET THEM SPEAK FOR AS LONG AND AS SHORT AS THEY WANTED INFORMATION SO THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS.

I THINK FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, THE CONCERNS ARE SOME RESIDENTS WANT TO BE ABLE TO VISIT OTHER CITIES, WHICH BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, I WAS ABLE TO I WENT AND VISITED MULTIPLE CITIES, ASKED IF I COULD WALK THEIR CITY HALL.

THEY COULD CARE LESS. THEY LET ME THROUGH THE BUILDING BECAUSE THEY'RE THE PEOPLE'S BUILDINGS. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T STOP TAXPAYER.

THEY WOULDN'T LET ME GO INTO CLASSIFIED AREAS, BUT THEY WON'T LET ME DO IT NOW EVEN WEARING A PARKER NAME BADGE.

BUT THE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ULTIMATE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ULTIMATE IDEA IS BEHIND

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AND I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION IS, BASED ON HISTORY AND BASED ON MY TRAINING THAT I TOOK WHEN I WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IT HAD REFERENCED THE FACT THAT IF THERE IS AN ITEM, THERE'S AN ITEM COMING UP ON THE AGENDA THAT HAS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

I CAN FORM MY OWN COMMITTEE TO GO OUT AND DO RESEARCH TO BRING IT BACK TO ME, MEET WITH RESIDENTS, BASICALLY.

IF NOT, IT'S AN ADVISORY GROUP.

IT IS NOT ANYTHING OF THE SORT.

SO THEORETICALLY, YOU COULD DO THAT FOR THIS MATTER RELATING TO A BOND, BECAUSE THAT WILL EVENTUALLY POSSIBLY BE AN AGENDA ITEM, COULDN'T WE? IN THEORY, IF YOU, WELL, LET ME PUT IT TO YOU THIS WAY.

IF YOU WANTED TO GO ON YOUR OWN TIME AND WITH YOUR OWN RESOURCES, TALK TO PROFESSIONALS OR COLLECT WHATEVER DATA YOU WANTED, ASSEMBLE A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT ON COUNCIL SO YOU DON'T HAVE A QUORUM PROBLEM TO DISCUSS THOSE MATTERS.

AND THEN TO REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL, THEN THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT THE LAW ALLOWS YOU TO DO.

NOW THE ISSUE BECOMES TO BE CLEAR, I'M ASSUMING IN YOUR HYPOTHETICAL, YOU'RE NOT SPENDING CITY RESOURCES. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COME IN FOR A CHECK AND ASK FOR REIMBURSEMENT OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. AND ASSUMING THAT'S ALL TO BE TRUE, THEN YOU'RE FINE TO DO THAT.

MR. STANDRIDGE WHO'S SITTING OUT IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY? IF HE IF HE BECAME MOTIVATED TO DO SO, HE COULD GO TO EVERY CITY COUNCIL AND TAKE PICTURES AND PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION AND THEN COME FORWARD AND ASK ONE OF YOU ALL IF YOU WOULD REQUEST THAT THE MAYOR PLACE ON THE AGENDA, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO MAKE A PRESENTATION IN THAT REGARD.

THAT'S ALL FINE, TOO.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH MS. KNOW, WHEN SHE STARTED BRINGING THINGS TO THE [INAUDIBLE] SO I GUESS FROM WHAT I'M GATHERING FROM YOU, MR. LEVINE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING WORKABLE HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING NO TO THE COMMITTEE.

WE'RE JUST SAYING WE CAN'T MAKE ONE OFF OF THIS AND IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU CAN DO.

TO BE CLEAR AND THIS MAY BE MY OWN PERSONAL LIMITATION.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU ASKED ME TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN ON THIS DOCUMENT, I WOULD HAVE DIFFICULTY CREATING A RESOLUTION THAT I COULD FEEL COMFORTABLE TELLING YOU COMPLY WITH THE LAW.

HAVING SAID THAT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN SO YOU USE TERM WORKABLE.

I'M HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH IF YOU REQUESTED OF ME TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT I COULD PUT IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION THAT YOU ALL COULD EITHER BEFORE OR AGAINST.

I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AND THIS GOES TO YOU, TERRY AND YOU, JIM, IS I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT EVEN I'M HEARING FROM THE RUMBLE OF THE AUDIENCE.

IT'S BEEN, WELL, MORE THAN 11 MONTHS.

IT'S BEEN SINCE 2018 THAT THIS THING HAS BEEN GONE.

SO PUSHING IT TO ANOTHER MEETING, THAT IS CONCERNING.

BUT I WOULD ASK, HAVE Y'ALL CONSIDERED PULLING THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE REQUESTED AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS AND HAVING THEM DO THE RESEARCH AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL OR BRING IT TO THE OPEN SESSION THAT WE HAVE? HAVE YOU ALL HAD THAT DISCUSSION TO SEE IF THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT IN THE TIME TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY WOULD STILL BE WORKING UNDER THE AUSPICE OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO HERE? AND ANY RESIDENT THAT I HAVE SEEN SINCE I'VE LIVED IN PARKER FOR SINCE 2012, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME UP HERE AND ASK THE STAFF FOR ANYTHING AND THEY WILL LITERALLY MOVE MOUNTAINS TO TRY TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY PHYSICALLY CAN.

SO THOSE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO STAFF.

THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS TO US.

I MEAN, I'M LOOKING I WAS LOOKING OUT AT THE AUDIENCE AND I THINK I'VE TALKED TO NINETY NINE PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE SITTING OUT THERE AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.

THEY'VE ALL KNOWN THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF ME REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE THEY'RE ON. AND I WOULD JUST ASK, HAVE YOU ALL LOOKED AT DOING THAT OPTION? BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS KEEPING EVERYTHING DONE CORRECTLY, BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG DEAL IN MAKING SURE THAT WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE OLD PARKER, BUT WE'VE GOT TO DO THINGS THE SAME WAY THE BIG CITY OF DALLAS DOES IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE RIGHT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO COME BACK LATER AND BE NULLIFIED BECAUSE IT'S WRONG.

HAVE YOU ALL CONSIDERED THE RESIDENTS OR TALK TO THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS AND SEE IF THAT IS AN OPTION THAT SATISFIES YOUR INTENTIONS HERE? I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT OPTION WITH THEM.

I'LL HAVE TO CONTEMPLATE THAT AND GET BACK WITH SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS AND SEE, YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN, I'VE HAD PRETTY DIRECT CONTACT WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND THEY WERE PRETTY EMPHATIC EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED.

AND WHAT THEY WANTED IS THEY JUST WANTED A CITIZENS COMMITTEE TO ADVISE ON THE PROJECT.

THAT'S ALL. PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.

AND THAT WAS THE BOTTOM LINE.

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SO WE ASSUMED THAT YOU NEEDED LOTS OF INFORMATION.

SO WE USED THE OTHER COMMITTEES THAT HAD BEEN IN FORMATION IN PARKER CITY FOREVER AS A BASIS FOR THAT. AND THAT SEEMED TO BE TOO MUCH INFORMATION.

AND NOW WE'RE KIND OF IN THE OTHER SITUATION.

SO ANYWAY, SO COUNCIL MEMBER REED SO THERE IS NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS A GROUP OF CITIZENS FROM MEETING ON A REGULAR BASIS AND EXCHANGING IDEAS AND INFORMATION AND THEN PRESENT.

COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO AND THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA.

BUT I DON'T KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A WILLINGNESS TO DO THAT.

AND THAT WOULDN'T UNDER THAT THEORY, YOU WOULDN'T NEED COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR THE CITIZENS, OBVIOUSLY FORM THEIR OWN COMMITTEE, IT'S THE FIRST AMENDMENT, THEY CAN DO THAT.

AND YOU WOULDN'T NEED THERE WOULD BE A CONTROL FACTOR OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER MAKING SURE MONEY IS NOT SPENT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MY THOUGHT ON THIS TO NOT HAVE TO TABLE THIS FOR ANOTHER MEETING, BUT STILL ACHIEVE THE MAJORITY OF THE GOAL BECAUSE EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS ABOUT GIVE AND TAKE IS OPENLY I'LL VOLUNTEER IF YOU ALL AREN'T AVAILABLE IF THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WANTS TO DO IT WANTS TO GO VISIT A CITY AND THEY THINK THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER BEING THERE WILL HELP THEM GET IN, I'LL GO VISIT WITH THEM.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S AS PRESTIGIOUS OF A POSITION AS EVERYBODY THINKS IT IS.

I DON'T THINK THE CITY OF ALLEN CARES WHETHER, YOU KNOW, I SHOW UP OR DALLAS OR ANY OF THE OTHERS THEY WANT TO SEE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO AND I HAVE SAID THIS A MILLION TIMES, ANYBODY, ANY RESIDENT THAT WANTS SOMETHING BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL CALL, EMAIL, REACH OUT TO ME AND I WILL PRESENT IT AS AN ITEM.

AND I KNOW THAT MEYER PETTLE HAS SAID SHE WAS WILLING TO PUT THEM ON THERE.

AND I THINK THAT THE BETTER POINT WOULD BE TO GET THIS GROUP TO WORK WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT CAN THEN BRING IT FORWARD TO THE, AS I CALL IT, THE PENTAGON THAT WE HAVE GOING WITH THE OTHER GROUP AND BRING IT INTO THAT THAT METHOD WITH THE ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS, THE HARD QUESTIONS, AS THE RESIDENTS SAY THEY WANT TO ASK, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN APPROVE ANYTHING TONIGHT ON THIS BASED ON WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE, BECAUSE I AGREE, IF WE PASSED IF WE PASSED THIS, I THINK MR. LEVINE WOULD HAVE A CORONARY. AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE RESIDENTS NAMES TO INCLUDE TO DO IT.

AND THIS PROPOSAL LOOKS MORE LIKE A COMMISSION TO ME THAN IT DOES A COMMITTEE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS KIND OF PART OF MY HESITATION IS, YOU KNOW, I'M GOOD WITH COMMITTEES. COMMISSIONS ARE DIFFERENT THING.

AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS WAS PENNED.

BUT I DO HIGHLY RECOMMEND ANY TIME AND THIS IS KIND OF OFF TOPIC, SO I'LL GET YELLED AT.

BUT ANY TIME I HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM, I TAKE IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M ASKING FOR THE RIGHT THING SO THAT IT COMES UP IN THE FUTURE.

AND BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S WRONG AT THE END OF THE DAY, BECAUSE OUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE CITY.

OK, OH, SO I WOULD ASK I WILL IN THAT LONG SPEECH, WHICH THE MAYOR LIKES TO THROW THINGS AT ME BECAUSE WHEN I GET TALKING, I DON'T SHUT UP.

BUT THE WOULD YOUR PREFERENCE BE TO TABLE THIS ITEM AND BRING IT BACK WITH A MOTION, OR IS THAT SOLUTION SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER? AND SO RIGHT NOW, WE JUST LET THIS MOVE ON.

NO ACTION TAKEN. I THINK NO ACTION TAKEN IS BEST APPROACH.

FINE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE PATH FORWARD.

AND Y'ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU HAVE.

IT MIGHT NOT HAVE A FORMALIZED NAME, BUT TO WORK WITH THOSE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM. AND AGAIN, I HAVE VOLUNTEERED MYSELF.

I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.

WE CAN'T DO IT IN A QUORUM FASHION.

BUT YEAH, WELL, WE CAN ALSO SIT DOWN WITH LOOK AND FIND OUT WHAT'S REASONABLE FOR STAFF IN TERMS OF OF HELPING WHERE NEEDED.

WE CAN ALSO ASK MR. SPURGEON IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH MR. SPURGEON OR ANYBODY COUNCIL WE COULD ASK, INVITE HIM OVER TO LOOK AT, I KNOW HE'S MET WITH YOU AND SEEN SOME OF YOUR, BUT TO UPDATE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S DOABLE. IT GETS WE CAN'T DO IT EVERY DAY BECAUSE IT IS EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW.

BUT IT IS DOABLE IF YOU ALL WANT IT, YOU JUST HAVE TO LET US KNOW.

OK, WE'LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

DO I NEED TO HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON [INAUDIBLE] MR. LEVINE, NO YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE A VOTE, TO BE CLEAR, I'M AVAILABLE.

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THANKS. WE'LL DEFINITELY BE IN TOUCH.

OF COURSE, HE GOT AN UNLISTED NUMBER YESTERDAY, NO.

OK, THEN, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

[4. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ADVERTISING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) AND PROVIDING NOTICE TO REPUBLIC WASTE INC. IN REGARD TO SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES.]

IN REGARD TO THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES.

MAYOR COUNCIL, I WAS ASKED TO PUT THIS ON, I THINK, IN A MEETING OR TWO AGO ONTO THE AGENDA TO KIND OF GO OVER WHAT ARE, I GUESS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS NEXT YEAR OR THE NEXT YEAR OR NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT FOR RFP, WE COVER THAT.

AND THIS AGENDA ITEM, YOU KNOW, IF NOT IF WE DON'T IF WE WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST TO NOTIFY REPUBLIK WASTE, IF WE DO NOT WANT TO GO WITH THEM, RENEW OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM, AND WE WOULD NEED TIME TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP ON THAT IF NEED BE.

AND AND RICK BERNAS WITH REPUBLICS HERE ALSO AND I KNOW MICHAEL DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE? I JUST IN GENERAL, THE REASON WHY I THINK THAT COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER THIS GOING FORWARD.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH REPUBLIC.

THEY HAVE PROVIDED US VERY GOOD SERVICE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

BUT I AM A HUGE PROPONENT OF LOOKING AT OPTIONS AT ALL TIMES AND HOLDING GROUPS ACCOUNTABLE AND HOLDING PART OF THAT ACCOUNTABILITY IS SOMETIMES SEEING IF WE'RE GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES WITH REPUBLIC WASTE AS FAR AS COLLECTION ISSUES.

WE'VE HAD SOME, IN MY OPINION, SOME REPORTING ISSUES AS FAR AS ISSUES THAT ARE CALLED IN, WHETHER THEY'RE CALLED IN THE REPUBLIC, WHETHER THEY WERE CALLED IN HERE, MAYBE THE TWO REPORTS DIDN'T JIVE.

AND SO THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF THAT.

I CAN SAY PERSONALLY, I SIT ON THE CORNER OF OUR STREET, AND MY TRASH CANS GET MISSED RATHER FREQUENTLY AND CAT USED TO KNOW WHEN I CALLED EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS BEFORE I SAID SOMETHING BECAUSE AS SOON AS I SAID IT WAS MICHAEL, SHE WOULD CALL REPUBLIC WASTE AND SAY, YOU MISSED THOSE TRASH CANS AGAIN BECAUSE THEY MAKE THAT LITTLE BEND.

AND JUST FOR ME, I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THIS.

I THINK THAT THERE ARE REQUESTS THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE MADE, SUCH AS MORE THAN ONE HAZARDOUS WASTE PICKUP A YEAR.

I'VE HEARD THAT SEVERAL TIMES WHEN I WAS OUT HERE AT THE LAST, YEAH, IT WAS THE LAST TIME, THE LAST ONE THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO COINCIDE WITH US STANDING OUT THERE. THE RESIDENTS SAID IT'S TOO BAD WE DON'T DO THIS TWICE A YEAR BECAUSE I HAVE TO PILE ALL OF THIS UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT I THINK WE COULD FIND MORE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD FIND MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK, BUT I ALWAYS LIKE TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO A POINT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN'T GET A BETTER SERVICE.

WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE ARE WE LOOKING TO PROVIDE AND PAY FOR, AND PAY FOR? I JUST GO HAND IN HAND.

I AGREE. I THINK ALSO BULK TRASH PICKUP IS ANOTHER THORN IN THE SIDE SOMETIMES THAT ROLLS INTO THAT, YOU KNOW. ABSOLUTELY, AND I KNOW THAT IT IS A STRUGGLE THAT ALL CITIES HAVE ALL CITIES HAVE ISSUES WITH THEIR TRASH PICKUP AND THEIR WASTE MANAGEMENT.

BUT I THINK IT'S ONE THAT WE OWE AN OBLIGATION TO REVIEW EVERY SO OFTEN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN.

MR. BERNAS IS ALWAYS WILLING TO COME UP AND TALK TO US.

SO IF I DID SEE HIM OUT THERE TONIGHT.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY AN ATTACK ON THEM, BUT I THINK THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS WHY I WANTED THIS PUT ON THE AGENDA EXPEDITIOUSLY SO THAT WE COULD BE WORKING ON MORE THAN JUST A CERTAIN AGENDA ITEMS. BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY AS AN ENTIRE.

SO TWO CONTRACTUAL POINTS, CORRECT, THAT ON OR BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST, 2021.

EITHER PARTY, NEEDS TO GIVE WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE OTHER THAT IT INTENDS TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 31ST.

IF NO TERMINATION NOTICE IS GIVEN BEFORE OR ON OCTOBER 1, 2021, TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT SHALL BE EXTENDED. IT'S FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.

SO. LUKE, I DON'T KNOW, IN GOING OUT FOR A BIT ON THIS, WHAT IS YOUR TIME FRAME? WELL, DEPENDING ON WHICH WHAT THE COUNCIL, YEAH IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON ON R.F.

P, RFQ JUST NEEDS SOME TWEAKING ON IT.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE IT GOING OUT HERE FAIRLY SOON, PROBABLY BY THE END OF THE MONTH, GOING OUT AND GETTING MOVING FORWARD.

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BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WHAT I'M SEEING IS, IS IF WE DO SWITCH, I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT TRASH CANS.

IF, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF TRASH CANS RIGHT NOW WITH THE MANUFACTURING COMPANY.

SO IF WE DO SWITCH, YOU KNOW, AS REPUBLICANS LET US KEEP THEIR TRASH CANS OR AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH A NEW COMPANY, OR I GUESS IT'S A RICK QUESTION.

NOW, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD SOLVE THAT.

I UNDERSTAND AND THAT IS VALID CONCERN THAT, THOUGH, AND BE LOCKED IN FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO THERE'S THERE'S A CONCERN THERE IF THERE'S A BETTER OPTION OUT THERE.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN.

WOULD I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE.

I DON'T TALK TO ANYONE.

I WOULD COUNCIL MIND IF WE TRY TO JUST DO A ONE YEAR EXTENSION AND NOT DO THE FIVE YEAR AND REWORK SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE NOTICED THAT ARE PROBLEMS AND SEE IF THAT WORKS OUT WITH SOME OF THE BULK AND STUFF DOWN THAT LINE? BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TOUGH.

I WOULD HATE TO JUST MOVE ALONG IN THE NORMAL FASHION.

THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T SEE PERSONALLY, I DON'T SEE ANY HARM WITH GOING OUT FOR AN RFP.

AND WE COULD, IN FACT, ON OCTOBER ONE, STILL CONTINUE SERVICE WITH REPUBLIC.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DROP US BECAUSE WE ARE AN ACCOUNT AND WE PAY MONEY.

AND I THINK THAT THERE IS NO HARM IN SEEING WHAT ELSE IS AVAILABLE TO A POINT THAT IF WE CAN'T GET THE INFORMATION BACK, I WOULD ALMOST SEE IF IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR THE MAYOR TO CALL EVEN A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING JUST SO WE COULD DISCUSS THAT ONE ITEM IF WE HAD TO, TO HIT BY OCTOBER 1ST.

IT IS MY CONCERN THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK AT ANY RFP BEFORE THAT DATE.

WILL WE HAVE TO. I THINK WE'RE CONFUSING THE DATES.

THE OCTOBER 1ST DATE IS THE DATE WE MUST GIVE THE NOTICE THAT WE ARE GOING TO TERMINATE OR GO OUT FOR DEAL.

THEY STILL WILL SERVICE US TO THE END OF THE.

DECEMBER 31ST.

ANNUAL YEAR. RIGHT.

BUT WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST.

IF WE DON'T CANCEL AT THAT POINT, IT EXTENDS CORRECT? WE DON'T HAVE TO OCTOBER 1ST TO TELL THEM WE'RE GOING OUT FOR AN RFP, WE HAVE UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT.

SO THAT'S WHAT MR. LEVINE SAYING. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RFP BACK AND WE DON'T LOOK AT THE VENDORS AND MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT WE'RE AUTOMATICALLY EXTENDING WHICH IT'S ALREADY, WHAT? IT'S AUGUST 17TH.

SO WE HAVE THE 1ST SEPTEMBER MEETING ON THE 7TH AND THEN WE HAVE THE SECOND ONE.

DO YOU THINK THAT BY THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER WE CAN HAVE STUFF OR WILL WE HAVE TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AFTER THAT TO EVEN TRY TO GET SOMETHING DONE? YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AT THIS POINT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ENOUGH OF AN ISSUE TO LOOK AT.

WELL AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GIVE THE NOTICE.

WE CAN THEN THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO OUT FOR.

WE ARE GOING TO TERMINATE SERVICE.

OK, THEN WE CAN.

THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.

OK, TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.

BY OCTOBER ONE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT THE CONTRACT TO RENEW OR NOT. RIGHT. YOU CAN YOU CAN MAKE DECISIONS THIS EVENING THAT YOU WANT TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE DECISION THIS EVENING AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE NOTICE END OF OCTOBER.

I JUST DIDN'T WORD IT RIGHT.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY CALL A SPECIAL MEETING THEN TO LOOK AT WHATEVER CAME BACK FROM THE RFP. SO, AGAIN, I STILL THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH OF AN ISSUE TO LOOK AT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAVE WITH REPUBLIC CONSISTENTLY.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T I THINK THEY PROVIDED A GREAT SERVICE.

I JUST THINK OUR RESIDENTS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THE BEST OPTION OUT THERE.

BERNAS. AND I'M NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THE RFP, BUT I WANT TO ADDRESS THE STATEMENT OF THE SERVICE.

WE'VE HAD 47 CALL INS FOR MISSED PICKUPS THIS YEAR.

WE'VE DONE ONE HUNDRED AND TWELVE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE SERVICES.

WE HAD AN ICE STORM OR A FREEZE THAT HIT EVERY CITY IN NORTH TEXAS HAS BEEN JUST DISASTROUS. WE SPENT ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HERE TO BRING TRUCKS IN TO GET EVERYTHING CLEANED UP. THAT'S NOT BAD SERVICE.

THAT'S SERVICE. THAT'S TAKING CARE OF A CUSTOMER.

WE DIDN'T ASK FOR A DIME.

WE DIDN'T ASK FOR ONE PENNY ON THIS.

WE WENT TO RFP FIVE YEARS AGO.

WE WANT IT. IF IT'S A FIVE YEAR, FIVE YEAR, FIVE YEAR RFP, WE KEEP PUTTING CAPITAL INTO A

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SO I TAKE IT PERSONAL WHEN IT'S SERVICE.

I NEED TO GET WHAT YOU'RE GETTING WHILE YOU'RE GETTING MISSED.

I'LL GET INTO THAT. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE BULK, BULK THIS YEAR HAS BEEN EVERYWHERE, DALLAS ADDED. POST IT, LEAVE IT OUT.

WE'LL GET TO IT WHEN WE GET TO IT.

OK, SO FOLKS [INAUDIBLE] UNUSUAL ANIMAL AND THE AMOUNT OF BULK THAT COMES OUT OF THE CITY WHEN PEOPLE BID THIS THEY BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE REALLY GETTING INTO.

OK, BECAUSE ON PAPER YOU SAY THIS IS EASY.

IT'S1675 HOMES.

WE PICK IT UP ONCE A MONTH.

EASY MONEY, TEN YARDS.

GREAT, EASY THING.

NOT TRUE. THE RESOURCES WE HAVE TO USE FOR BULK TO GET IT DONE.

NO COMPANY IS GOING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO IT.

IF THEY COME IN AND SAY, OH, I'LL DO IT FOR FIFTEEN BUCKS, I'D BE SCARED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ENOUGH EQUIPMENT TO HANDLE WHAT HAPPENS HERE.

WE KNOW IT INSIDE AND OUT.

AND I'LL RESPECT THE RFP.

THAT'S YOUR CHOICE TO DO IT.

I THINK WE'VE EARNED PERSONALLY A CHANCE TO AT LEAST COME TO YOU WITH A WAY TO SOLVE BULK, GET IT PICKED UP ON THEIR SERVICE DAY, WHICH IS THE COMPLAINT I HEAR MOST.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT OUT MONDAY.

I WANT TO PUT IT OUT THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.

WHAT A SOLUTION TO THAT AND A PRICE, IF YOU LIKE IT, YOU LIKE IT.

IF YOU DON'T, YOU GO TO OUR FEE.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK.

THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT MR. BERNAS, IS I DID SAY THAT YOU'LL HAVE PROVIDED SERVICE TO THE CITY, GOOD SERVICE TO THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS. THE ISSUES THAT ARE CALLED IN ARE NOT A REFLECTION ON NECESSARILY THE SERVICE PROVIDED.

IT'S A REFLECTION ON THE FACT THAT THERE ARE ISSUES WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT AND MAYBE IT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT SERVICES AVAILABLE.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR THAT.

AND WE KNOW WHAT YOU DID AFTER THE ICE STORM.

WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH COVID.

WE KNOW ABOUT THE MONTHS MISSED WHICH WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED ON ONE OF THE FIRST REPORTS THAT I EVER SAT HERE ON WAS THE BULK DIDN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE WE MISSED A MONTH. THEY WERE STILL THERE. BUT I STILL THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT.

MY CONCERN WITH I LIKE THE IDEA OF HIM COMING, TRYING TO FIX THE ISSUES.

BUT MY CONCERN IS, AGAIN, THAT LOCKS US INTO FIVE YEARS IF THAT SOLUTION DOESN'T WORK, UNLESS WE DO A ONE YEAR EXTENSION.

AND THAT'S ASSUMING REPUBLIC WOULD EVEN CONSIDER THAT.

I JUST I THINK THAT THEY COULD SUBMIT ON THE SAME RFP IF THEY HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THOSE ISSUES.

OR YOU HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND THEN YOU GOT THEM FOR FIVE YEARS.

GOOD POINT.

AND RICK.

AND RICK. THIS MAY NOT BE THIS MAY NOT BE A FAIR QUESTION.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER IT, PLEASE DON'T.

BUT THE CONTRACT PROVIDES FOR A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.

THE COMPANY IS THE COMPANY TO RECEPTIVE TO, YOU KNOW, AS LUKE INDICATED, A ONE YEAR EXTENSION. I THINK WE WOULD BE.

I THINK WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT TRYING TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO BULK.

LOOK AT IT OVER A 12 MONTH EXTENSION, THE WAY I DON'T WANT TO GIVE SECRETS AWAY, BUT THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS IS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT ON THURSDAY.

FRIDAY. ADDS EQUIPMENT AGAIN.

IT ADDS MANPOWER. AND THERE WOULD BE A SMALL PRICE TO THAT.

SO YOU'D KNOW IT UPFRONT.

WE DIDN'T DO A CPI THIS YEAR, BUT WE'RE ADDING ROUTE DAYS AS WE CALL IT, TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE VOLUME AND 12 MONTHS FROM NOW, WE'RE EITHER GOOD OR BAD AND YOU DO THE SAME THING. SO THAT'S AN OPTION OUT THERE ALSO.

OK, OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OK, COUNCIL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? THOUGH I APPRECIATE MR. BERNAS, I STILL KIND OF STAND BEHIND MY IDEA THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CALL FOR AN RFP, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ACTION AND GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE AN RFP FOR A NEW VENDOR AT THIS POINT.

I DO INVITE REPUBLIC TO SUBMIT INTO THAT.

OK, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP FOR OUR BULK AND SOLID WASTE RECYCLING SERVICES.

ARE YOU ALSO MAKING A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM TERMINATION AT THIS POINT, NO MADAM MAYOR NOT AT THIS POINT. OK, I JUST BEING CLEAR.

THANK YOU. IF I CAN ASK YOU A QUESTION, IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION ON THE ONE YEAR EXTENSION PROCESS THAT WAS REFERRED TO EARLIER? MY CONCERN IS, IS A YEAR FOR A STUDY TO DETERMINE I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE WHAT OTHERS IN THE INDUSTRY, HOW THEY'RE HANDLING IT, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING. AND, YOU KNOW, AT THAT MEETING, AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO EXTEND FOR A YEAR.

THEY MOST LIKELY WOULD BE WILLING TO.

AND WE COULD LOOK AT IT AT THAT POINT AFTER WE SEE WHAT THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE.

FAIR ENOUGH.

JUST LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION.

OK, SO TO BE CLEAR, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, ARE YOU SAYING THAT ONCE WE SEE WHAT

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NO, I'M SAYING WE DISCUSS IT WHILE HE'S PREPARING THE RFP BEFORE PEOPLE SUBMIT.

SO LET'S GO WITH THE MOTION THAT . OK, YOUR MOTION, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, IS THAT YOU WANT US TO GO OUT FOR AN RFQ BUT NOT GIVE ANY TERMINATION DATE AT THIS TIME.

CORRECT. OK, IS THERE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND THAT MADAM MAYOR.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH TO GO OUT FOR AN RFQ REGARDING OUR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES, BUT NOT TO GIVE ANY NOTICE AT THIS TIME TO REPUBLIC WASTE.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND OR SPEAK UP.

OK, ANYBODY OPPOSED? OK, OK, MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO ONE.

ONE AGAINST IS MAYOR PRO TEM MEYER.

NO.

HAVING VOTED ON THE MOTION, AM I TO APPROACH OUR CURRENT PROVIDER TO SEE WHAT THE WILLINGNESS WOULD BE ON A ONE YEAR EXTENSION, THEORETICALLY, WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS? OR IS THAT NOT SOMETHING I'M TO BE DOING? I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE COULD LOOK AT THAT OPTION AS WELL AS WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO TO CORRECT THE ISSUE THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING WITH THE BULK PICKUPS AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. I'LL GET WITH LUKE AND RICK.

I LIKE THAT IDEA THAT WE GOT THAT DONE IN PARALLEL AND THEN AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK IF THERE'S ANYTHING FOR THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.

[6. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

SO MOVING ON, I'M GOING TO ASK.

FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, THE ITEM THAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER WITH RESPECT TO ESTABLISHING AN AUDIT COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU. WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE ONE I SAID I REFERRED TO.

I APPRECIATE THE REMINDER.

OK. AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT ON THE AGENDA, A FUTURE AGENDA, JUST LET ME KNOW.

JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL OR YOU CAN SEND ONE TO PATTI, ASSUMING SHE DOES COME BACK TO WORK.

WE NEVER KNOW ABOUT OUR PATTI, OK.

ANY COMMENTS ON THE QUARTERLY REPORTS?

[5. UPDATE(S) MONTHLY/QUARTERLY REPORTS DEPARTMENT REPORTS- BUILDING/CODE (JULY), FINANCE (monthly financials) (JULY), FIRE (2ND QTR), INVESTMENT (2ND QTR), POLICE (JULY), REPUBLIC WASTE (JULY), AND WEBSITE (JULY) CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (CIP) COMMITTEE [LYNCH/REED] DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE CODE BOOK [MEYER] COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE [SLAUGHTER] EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION COMMITTEE [ABRAHAM] MUNICIPAL COMPLEX [PETTLE/COUNCIL] LEGISLATIVE UPDATES [OLSON] NEW RESIDENT PACKET [MEYER] NEWSLETTER [MEYER] NOISE COMMITTEE [OLSON] NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT (NTMWD) [OLSON] PUMP STATION [MACHADO] RISK AND RESILIENCE ANALYSIS AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN UPDATE [MACHADO/BIRKHOFF] SALES TAX [MEYER] SUBDIVISION(S) [MACHADO] THOROUGFARE & OTHER MAPS UPDATE [MACHADO] ACCEPTANCE OF FOOD DONATION(S) FOR POLICE, FIRE, AND CITY STAFF DUE TO COVID-19 FOR THE RECORD (Each valued at between $0 - $500). [PETTLE] Emily Plummer 5908 Gregory Ln provided homemade muffins estimated value $15.00 Katherine Li 6001 Ranchview Court provided snacks and drinks estimated value at $70.00]

LUKE HAS A COMMENT ON THE MONTHLY REPORT.

REMEMBER ON THE BUILDING REPORT THAT IF IT SHOWS ZERO IN THE SECOND COLUMN, THE FIRST ONE, THE BUILDING PERMIT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

THEY JUST HAVE NOT PICKED UP THE BUILDING PERMIT AND PAID FOR IT IN THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVEN'T PAID WELL, THEY HAVEN'T IT JUST HASN'T BEEN PICKED UP YET AND FULLY EXECUTED ONCE IT GOES TO DILLAN AND IT GETS APPROVED ONCE HE GOES THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND IT GOES BACK UP TO ANNA AND THEN THEY HAVE TO COME AND PAY FOR THAT. OH, I'VE GOT IT NOW.

OK, YOU NOTICE I DIDN'T ASK FOR IT TO BE BROUGHT UP.

I ACTUALLY SAID I LIKE THIS METHOD AND THAT WAS ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY.

IT JUST SO IT'S A TIMING ISSUE ON THE CLEARING OUT OF THE ACTUAL MONEY.

WELL, IT'S YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME BUILDERS THAT DON'T PICK UP THEIR STUFF FOR A MONTH.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAD A COUPLE OF POOLS, CONTRACTORS THAT ARE SITTING UP THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE RIGHT NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST OUT CAME AND PICKED IT UP.

YEAH, I JUST WE HAD QUESTIONS ON THAT AND LUKE HAD AN ANSWER.

OK. ARE THERE ANY UPDATES TO ANY COMMITTEES RATHER THAN READING OFF THE LIST? JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON THE TIME OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN COMMITTEE.

WE HAD INDICATED A TENTATIVE DATE OF THIS THURSDAY AND THAT HAS BEEN CANCELED.

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BUT THERE ISN'T ONE AT THIS TIME.

CORRECT. OK, OK.

I HAVE AN UPDATE ALSO ON THE CODE BOOK, AND WE'LL BE HAVING A JOINT MEETING OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES OF P&Z AND COUNCIL'S SUBCOMMITTEE ON THURSDAY, THIS THURSDAY, AUGUST 19TH AT 7:00 P.M..

OK, ANY OTHER UPDATES? GARY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, NOT ON THOSE ITEMS. OK, THEN LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A FOOD DONATION FOR THE POLICE, FIRE AND OUR CITY STAFF DUE TO THE COVID-19 EMILY PLUMMER OF 5908 GREGORY LANE PROVIDED HOMEMADE MUFFINS ESTIMATED AT FIFTEEN DOLLARS.

KATHERINE LI OF 6001 RANCHVIEW COURT PROVIDED SNACKS AND DRINKS ESTIMATED VALUE OF SEVENTY DOLLARS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR FAMILIES IN PARKER FOR TAKING CARE OF OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND STAFF. THAT IS REALLY GREAT.

AWESOME. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND NOW IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

IT IS 9:24.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.