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GOOD EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO START TONIGHT WITH A WINTER STORM AFTER ACTION REVIEW.[WINTER STORM AFTER ACTION REVIEW]
THIS IS IN A WORKSHOP STYLE FASHION AS OPPOSED TO BEING IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND I'M GOING TO START WITH LUKE AND TO DESCRIBE TO EVERYONE, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DESCRIBE SNOW AND ICE, BUT YOU CAN DESCRIBE THE CONDITIONS HERE AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. YES, MADAM MAYOR, ACTUALLY, LET'S KIND OF START AT THE BEGINNING, THURSDAY MORNING AFTER SEEING THE WRECKS ON 35 W AND THEN LOOKING AT THE INCOMING WEATHER PATTERNS STARTING FRIDAY, SATURDAY OR STARTING SATURDAY NIGHT, GOING IN THROUGH WEDNESDAY AND LOOKING AT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, IT DID NOT LOOK GOOD.I USUALLY TRY TO HALF OF WHAT THE WEATHERMEN SAY WE'RE GOING TO GET FOR PRECIPITATION BECAUSE THEY SAY SIX.
IT'S TRACED TO THREE INCHES PROBABLY.
SO THAT MORNING, I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY FRIDAY MORNING WE MET STAFF MYSELF.
DEPARTMENT HEADS MET. WE WENT OVER SOME THINGS.
ACTION PLAN AT THAT TIME, I THINK ACTUALLY WAS ON THE WAY TO WORK ABOUT 7:30 I GAVE GARY A CALL SEEING IF THERE WAS ANY MOTOR GRADER AVAILABLE IN THE AREA SINCE THERE WAS NO DUMP TRUCKS. SO WE COULD AT LEAST KEEP MAIN THOROUGHFARES IF NEEDED BE OPEN FOR EMERGENCY TRAFFIC.
ONCE WE GOT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER.
STAFF COULD GET IN THERE, EITHER HUMPING IT IN THERE OR WALKING IN OR GETTING THE BIG TRUCKS IN THERE DOWN THOSE ROADS, STARTING.
LET'S GO, SUNDAY NIGHT WE STARTED I THINK IT WAS ABOUT, I KNOW AT MY PLACE AT TO 2:00 A.M.
MONDAY MORNING IS WHEN OUR POWER WENT OUT.
I BELIEVE POWER WAS NOT SHORTLY WENT OUT SHORTLY THEREAFTER HERE IN PARKER, 3 A.M..
SO YOU GOT AN HOUR LONGER THAN ME.
SO AT THAT TIME, WE WERE KIND OF PLAYING THINGS BY EAR.
THEY KEPT ON SAYING THAT POWER COME BACK ON, IT WOULD COME BACK ON.
I MADE NUMEROUS ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT ONCOR TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.
DURING THAT TIME, GARY AND HIS STAFF WERE GETTING GENERATORS PLACED AT THE SUBSTATE. I MEAN, THE WATER INTAKE DELIVERY POINT AND FILLING THOSE DIESEL UP.
AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO HERE IS I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THEM AND LET THEM GIVE YOU GUYS WHAT THEY WHAT THEY WERE THE DEPARTMENTS WERE DOING DURING THAT TIME.
WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES KEEPING PUMPS GOING DUE TO THE FACT THINGS WERE FREEZING ON US.
WE HAD DIESEL GELLING ON US, STUFF THAT WE TYPICALLY DON'T KEEP ON HAND, LIKE AN ANTI GEL FOR DIESEL ADDITIVES, STUFF LIKE THAT.
PROBABLY IT WAS AN ERROR IN OVERSIGHT, NOT PROBABLY GETTING SOME.
AND THAT'S ON ME FOR NOT HAVING STAFF GET THAT.
ONE THING WE DID NOTICE IS ONCE POWER, IF THE GAS STATION HAD POWER, THEY WERE OUT OF FUEL. IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE POWER, THEY HAD FUEL AFTER THEY GOT POWER.
SO JUST BECAUSE NO ONE WAS PUMPING.
WE HAD ONE RESIDENT WHO WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AT ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING WHO OWNS A GAS STATION. HE ACTUALLY TURNED OFF THE DIESEL PUMPS AND JUST LET OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND OUR DEPARTMENTS FILL THERE.
I THINK LUCAS SCHOOL DISTRICT LET US FILL THERE AT THEIR STATION.
AND I'M THINKING, WHO ELSE? AND THEN WHAT'S ED'S LAST NAME? STANLEY. ALSO, LET US BORROW TWO GENERATORS JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH GENERATING CAPABILITY THAT HE HAD.
SO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS, WE ALSO HAD PAYROLL GOING ON AT THAT SAME TIME WITH NO POWER. WE HAD NO ACCESS TO SERVERS.
SINCE IT'S AN INTERNAL SYSTEM, WE KEEP IT LOCKED, LOCKED ON OUR SERVERS.
WE HAD TO RUN EXTENSION CORDS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OVER TO CITY HALL ONE TO POWER UP THE SERVER ROOM AND ONE TO POWER UP GRANT'S COMPUTER TO GET THAT THE SERVER ROOM UP AND GOING. THAT WAS DONE WEDNESDAY, I BELIEVE.
WHEN WE DID THAT GRANT? TUESDAY, I KNOW HE WAS UP HERE MONDAY TRYING TO GET IT GOING, BUT
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IT JUST NEVER CAME BACK ON OR THE POWER NEVER CAME ON.THEY KEPT TELLING US IT WOULD COME BACK ON AND IT JUST NEVER CAME BACK ON MONDAY.
AND THEN TUESDAY, THERE WAS A CALL WITH COLLIN COUNTY OFFICIALS, THE MAYOR ASKED ME TO BE ON THAT CALL SINCE SHE WAS DEALING WITH SOME ISSUES AT HER HOUSE.
SO I WAS ON THAT CALL BASICALLY AT THAT TIME, ONCOR REPRESENTATIVES TOLD US THAT IF YOU'RE OUT, EXPECT TO BE OUT ANOTHER 48 HOURS.
WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO IT, THERE WAS SOME HM HAWING ON WHAT WAS WHAT THE TIME FRAME WAS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT JUST SEEMED MOST LOGICAL TO SAY, IF IT'S OUT, IT'S GOING TO BE OUT FOR NEXT 48 HOURS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WEATHER TEMPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DIP DOWN TUESDAY NIGHT GOING INTO WEDNESDAY.
DURING ALL THAT TIME, STAFF WORKED VERY, VERY HARD.
I THINK GARY'S GUYS PULLED ALL NIGHTERS HERE AFTER THINGS STARTED WARMING UP.
WE HAD A LOT OF WHAT I SAY, WATER LEAKS, FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS WERE BREAKING.
WATER PIPES IN THEIR HOUSE WERE FROZEN BROKE.
SO GARY'S GUYS WERE RUNNING ALL OVER THE CITY, I THINK.
CHIEF CHEF, YOU HAD SOME GUYS AND CHIEF BROOKS.
I THINK YOU GUYS WERE KIND OF HELPING OUT A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, GETTING WATER TURNED OFF AT RESIDENTS. SO WE WERE RUNNING ALL OVER TOWN GETTING THAT DONE.
AND I WILL SAY, BOBBY, WHO DID THE FRONT END LOADER, I MEAN, THE MOTOR GRADER DID A GREAT JOB OPERATING THAT THING, DIDN'T TEAR UP THE ROADS FROM WHAT WE CAN SEE.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT IT DOWN [INAUDIBLE] BUT I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO KNOW SOMETIMES.
WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS KIND OF GIVE IT OVER TO STAFF BOW, SINCE THEY'RE THE ONES HANDLING MOST OF IT ON THE ON THE GROUND, THINGS THAT WORKED DIDN'T WORK IS WHAT I KIND OF ENVISIONED THEM KIND OF GOING THROUGH.
WHAT WENT WRONG. YEAH. WHAT DID WE LEARN.
YEAH. AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR SO WE DON'T GO THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE EVER AGAIN AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. YEAH, OK, WELL I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO GARY FIRST SINCE HE'S GOT IT AND IF HE GRABS THE MICROPHONE THERE HE CAN GO THROUGH IT.
[INAUDIBLE] WE WERE SCRAMBLING TO FIND FUEL, TO KEEP THE GENERATORS FULL.
AND ALL WHILE TRYING TO ALSO KEEP THE RESIDENTS [INAUDIBLE] WHEN THEY NEEDED IT BACK ON.
AND THE GUYS, I THINK, DID A GREAT JOB DOING THAT STUFF.
THE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE WOULDN'T RUN.
IT WAS SO COLD, THEY WOULDN'T WE COULDN'T GET IT TO START.
THAT'S THE STUFF LUKE WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE ADDITIVES FOR THE FUEL THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO KEEP ON HAND FOR AN EVENT LIKE THAT.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
I'VE GOT FOUR I'VE GOT THREE DIESEL TRUCKS AT MY HOME.
I'VE NEVER HAD IT THAT COLD THAT THEY WOULDN'T RUN.
I WAS SURPRISED THAT IT HAPPENED.
I DIDN'T THINK IT GOT THAT COLD, BUT IT DID.
[INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF GENERATOR CAPACITY FOR THE ENTIRE COMPLEX.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.
AND [INAUDIBLE] THE RESIDENT THAT STEPPED UP WITH THE FUEL AND THE [INAUDIBLE] SCHOOL DISTRICT THEY HELPED US OUT.
IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR THEM, WE WOULD BE IN TROUBLE.
WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN TROUBLE. AND OUR [INAUDIBLE] GENERATORS WITHOUT THEM [INAUDIBLE] THE WATER SYSTEM GOING. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE ONLY HAVE ONE GENERATOR AND THAT'S AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ONE. WE HAVE A BIG ONE AT THE PUMP STATION.
AT THE PUMP STATION, OK? AND WE WERE PREPARED FOR THREE DAYS OF NO POWER.
THOSE THINGS. THE ONE OF THE AT THE POWER STATION TAKES ABOUT 200 GALLONS OF FUEL A DAY TO KEEP IT RUNNING.
HOW MUCH? ABOUT 200 GALLONS A DAY IS WHAT IS WAS WORKING ON.
IS IT PROPANE? NO IT'S DIESEL. DIESEL. AND THEN FIRE STATION WAS RUNNING LOW ON PROPANE, WE'RE TRYING TO
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GET THAT PROPANE AND JUST KEEP EVERYBODY WE COULD GOING.OK, MIKE, IF YOU KNOW, HOW FAR DOWN DID YOUR GENERATOR GET ON FUEL ? [INAUDIBLE] THEY WERE THAT LOW ON PROPANE TOO.
AND THEY CAN BURN THAT IN A DAY.
I'M SORRY? THEY CAN BURN THAT IN A DAY [INAUDIBLE].
AND CHIEF, I KNOW WE HAD SOME SNOW CHAINS FOR SOME OF THE TIRES, POLICE VEHICLES.
WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT NEEDED THAT COULD HAVE HELPED THEM DO A BETTER JOB OR BE SAFER? THE STRENGTH OF THE OPERATION, OF COURSE, WAS THE STAFF.
SO KUDOS [INAUDIBLE] EVERYBODY WORKED REALLY WELL TOGETHER AND ADDRESS WHATEVER ISSUE [INAUDIBLE] RESPONSIBLE [INAUDIBLE] SO PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
THE [INAUDIBLE] PRETTY CRITICAL US WE HAVE BATTERY BACKUP.
THAT WILL LAST US ABOUT AND HOUR WHICH GENERALLY GETS US PAST WHATEVER [INAUDIBLE] HAVE.
THERE'S BEEN THREE EXAMPLES THAT I CAN RECALL SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE WHERE WE'VE LOST POWER LONGER THAN AND HOUR.
BUT THREE DAYS IS WAY TOO LONG TO BE WITHOUT POWER.
[INAUDIBLE] ARE UNABLE TO ACCESS ANY OF OUR ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE TO DO THE JOB, SO THAT'S PRETTY CRITICAL.
WE SEND A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO LOCATE FUEL, AND IF WE HAD THE CAPABILITY OF HAVING A THREE DAYS OF FUEL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
CALL RESPONSE WE WERE ABLE TO HANDLE ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT CAME OUT.
THERE WAS ONE FIRE CALL WHERE THE FOLKS [INAUDIBLE] FOR A WHILE AND CALL HAD TO BE HELD FOR JUST A LITTLE WHILE.
BUT THEY WERE ABLE [INAUDIBLE] GASOLINE, TALKED ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN THE STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT WE GET WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL SMALL TOOLS TO ADDRESS THAT. MY INTENTION IS TO PURCHASE [INAUDIBLE] THAT SAYS WE'RE HERE, BUT THEY MAKE THESE THINGS WE CAN PUT ON OUR BOOTS CALLED YAKTRAX, TO GIVE THEM SOME ABILITY TO HAVE SOME FOOTING ON THE ICE. MORE THEN ONE OFFICERS FELL ON A ACCIDENT ON [INAUDIBLE].
AND SHE WAS INJURED, NOT CRITICALLY, BUT SHE DID HAVE SOME ISSUES [INAUDIBLE] TO THE DOCTOR TO HAVE THEM ADDRESSED.
WE NEED WATER CUT OFF WRENCHES SO WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.
OFFICERS WERE DIGGING OUT VEHICLES THAT HAD SPINNED OFF THE ROAD.
AND THEY HAD TO USE PERSONAL SHOVELS [INAUDIBLE] JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE 2 SHOVELS IN THE BACK OF HIS TRUCK.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME KIND OF SHOVEL THAT WILL BREAK DOWN AND WE CAN STORE.
NEEDED SOME WATERPROOF EQUIPMENT, LIKE RAIN PANTS AND WATER PROOF GLOVES.
THEY WERE HAVING A HARD TIME IN YOU KNOW ZERO TO MINUS DEGREE TEMPERATURE DEALING WITH PUSHING THE VEHICLE OUT, THERE PANTS AND THEIR GLOVES WERE GETTING WET, WHICH THEN WERE FREEZING MORE QUICKLY. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING SOME SMALL THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEN BOXING THEM ALL TOGETHER.
SO. THEY ARE [INAUDIBLE] THE WEATHER WE JUST PULL THAT BOX OUT.
I'VE BEEN WITH PARKER APPROACHING 5 YEARS AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN THAT FIVE YEARS [INAUDIBLE]. [INAUDIBLE] THAT PROCESS
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HE COULDN'T RUN THE CHAINS BECAUSE THE ROADWAYS WERE SO WELL MAINTAINED.IT WOULD WOULD HAVE HURT VEHICLES TO DRIVE ON THEM ON THE MAIN ROAD, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD THING. BUT THEN YOU CAN'T TAKE THEM ON AND OFF WHEN YOU GET INTO THE SNOW AREAS.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE CHAINED TWO CARS LEFT TWO UNCHAINED.
THEY DROVE THE UNCHAINED CARS DURING THE DURATION OF THE EVENT BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE. OK, MIKE, DID YOU HAVE.
I DID HAVE ONE ONE THING I FORGOT.
OK. ALL THE PREPARATIONS THAT WE MADE FOR SLEEPING QUARTERS FOR THE OFFICERS WE COULDN'T STAY HERE.
WE COULDN'T STAY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
[INAUDIBLE] CAPTAIN PRICE HAD POWER AND HE HAD A SPARE BEDROOM, THE BATHROOM SO HAVING GENERATED POWER HERE THAT WE CAN WASN'T THE FIRE STATION WARM? OVER AT THE FIRE STATION? THEY DID.
I THINK THE ISSUE WAS IS THE THE ALARMS GOING OFF ALL NIGHT.
WELL IF YOU WORK A 12 HOUR SHIFT AND YOU TRY TO SLEEP SOMEBODY IN THE OPERATING BUILDING WHERE OK.
BUT AS FAR AS IF YOU'RE GOING TO WORK THEM 12 HOURS.
OFF 12 HOURS THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP.
OK. BECAUSE I THINK THEY ALSO SHOWERED AT THE FIRE STATION.
GARY'S PEOPLE WHEN THEY WERE HERE FOR LIKE A WEEK.
GRANT. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRYING TO GET PAYROLL OUT.
WELL BE ABLE TO RUN OUR SERVER.
ABLE TO WORK FROM HOME BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE LAPTOPS AND THEY COULD REMOTE IN AND BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK. BUT WHEN THE SERVER WENT DOWN, THE YEAH THE GENERATOR WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BIGGEST HELP.
OK, GARY, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU NEED? WE COULD HAVE USED ONE MORE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE TRUCK.
IT WAS HARD TO GET AROUND IN THE FEW FOUR WHEEL DRIVES THAT WE HAD.
WE NEEDED ONE MORE WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE.
A GENERATOR, OF COURSE, WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE FOR THE.
THAT WOULD HAVE POWERED THE WATER SYSTEM, WHICH I THINK THE SCADA SYSTEM IS.
WELL, WE HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS OVER THERE ALSO, THE GAUGES FROZE ON THE WATER TOWER, WHICH WHEN THE SCADA GOES DOWN THE GAUGES ARE OUR BACKUP SYSTEMS, SO WE HAD NO BACKUP.
AND SO WE HAD TO MAKE SCADA WORK OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO THE GENERATOR WOULD HAVE A GENERATOR FOR THE COMPLEX THAT INCLUDES THAT WOULD HAVE HAD THAT SYSTEM WORKING. OK. I THINK GARY'S GUYS WERE ABLE TO HOTWIRE THE SCADA SYSTEM TO BRING IT BACK ON.
ON AND GET ALARMS AND EVERYTHING GOING ON, IT GOING FROM THERE.
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EVERYBODY HAD THEIR OWN, EVERYBODY HAD THEIR OWN PROTECTIVE CLOTHING.I MEAN, ALL THESE GUYS, YOU KNOW, GO OUTDOORS A LOT.
AND SO WE SPENT A WEEK IN BIB OVERALLS AND EVERY WARM PIECE OF CLOTHING WE HAD.
OK. OK, WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WENT WRONG? BEFORE WE DO THAT, DO WE WANT TO HEAR MORE GOOD THING? WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH WHAT'S WENT RIGHT.
I THINK WHAT WENT WRONG IS WE JUST I THINK WE WAITED AND WE ASSUMED THAT THE POWER WAS GOING TO COME BACK ON AT SOME POINT.
WE GOT STUCK BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL GETTING GENERATORS ONCE THAT WENT DOWN.
I DON'T THINK WE COULD FIND A GENERATOR AROUND HERE.
AND THEN I KNOW WE HAD ASKED THE STATE FOR ONE, TWO, I THINK AND THAT NEVER DID SHOW UP FROM THE STATE.
SO AND WE WEREN'T EXPECTING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN TXDOT'S ROADS SINCE TXDOT.
I THINK THEY RENTED MOST OF THE MOTOR GRADERS IN THE AREA TOO.
AWARE THAT TXDOT WAS NOT GOING TO HANDLE THEIR MAIN THEIR MAIN ROADS, EVEN DRIVING DOWN 35 IT WAS, AND 75.
THERE WERE SOME AREAS THAT JUST DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THEY HAD WORKED ON IT.
SO I THINK THE OTHER GENERATOR NOT HAVING POWER, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT THINGS, HAVING SOME OF OUR STUFF AT A SERVER FARM, SOMETHING DOWN THAT LINE.
PHONE SYSTEM AND THE VOIP SYSTEM.
IT IS HANDLED ON AN OFFSITE SERVER FARM AND THAT NEVER WENT DOWN.
SO THAT WAS THE NICE THING ABOUT THAT.
THEY WERE ABLE TO USE THEIR CELL PHONES, BRING UP THE CITY'S APP AND STILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER PHONE CALLS, TRANSFER CALLS AND GET PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTED TO TURNOFFS.
I, I THINK FUEL BECAME ANOTHER THAT WAS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
I THINK. I THINK PD, YOU GUYS ARE DRIVING CARS DOWN TO AN EIGHTH OF A TANK BEFORE WE ABANDONED THEM AND WENT TO THE NEXT CAR.
AND I THINK THE FIRE DID WE HAVE ANY NEED TO CALL OUT AN AMBULANCE DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME? MIC] PLAN IN OPERATION AS TO HOW WE WOULD PRIORITIZE CALLS THAT WAS HAPPENING.
ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE WE GOT TRUNCATED WHAT WE WERE DOING,
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DID WE HAVE ANY CALLS FIRE, POLICE, MEDICAL THAT WE COULDN'T GET TO BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER CONDITIONS? JUST GOOD TO KNOW.GOOD. Y'ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT FUEL A LOT AND NOT HAVING POWER BUT NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT LIGHTS.
Y'ALL ARE KIND OF SCARY SOMETIMES.
WAS NOT HAVING LIGHTS AN ISSUE? DO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF BACKUP LIGHTS THAT WOULD? IF WE HAD GENERATOR SYSTEM, WE WOULD HAVE LIGHTS.
BUT WE WERE USING FLASH LIGHTS A LOT.
WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER TO, YOU KNOW, WATER SHUT OFF? THE RESIDENTS SHOULD KNOW HOW TO SHUT OFF THEIR WATER, I MEAN.
YOU CAN TELL EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW HOW TO DO THAT AND EDUCATE THEM ON HOW TO DO THAT.
WHEN THIS HAPPENS AGAIN, MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO FORGET ANYTHING THAT YOU TOLD THEM.
WELL, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE RIGHT? AND I THINK.
WHICH WERE THE ONES THAT WERE BREAKING.
BUT YOU HAVE TO SHUT IT OFF. WE CAN'T DO THAT.
THEY HAVE TO DO THAT, THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO DO IT.
WE TOLD THEM HOW WHEN THEY CALL.
WE CAN'T DO IT FOR LIABILITY REASONS.
A LOT OF THE BREAKS WERE FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. SO YOU CAN LEAVE THE WATER RUNNING.
I THINK ,I KNOW AT MY IN-LAWS, THE MAIN SHUT OFF TO THE HOUSE.
IT CRUMBLED AS THEY WENT TO GO TURN IT OFF.
AND I THINK THAT HAPPENED TO A COUPLE OTHER PLACES IN TOWN HERE.
THEY WENT TO GO SHUT IT OFF THEIR HOUSE MAIN CUT OFF ON THEIR SIDE OF THE METER.
AND THEY WERE JUST BREAKING JUST BECAUSE THEY HAD FROZEN.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT AT THEIR HOMES.
EITHER LANDSCAPERS HAVE COVERED IT WITH MULCH OR THERE'S PLANTS, WEEDS, SOMETHING GROWING OVER IT. AND IT'S GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE.
THERE SHOULD BE ONE CLOSER TO YOUR HOUSE WHERE ENTERS THE HOUSE AT SO.
I MEAN, IF THERE'S, YOU HAVE WATER IN YOUR HOUSE COMING OUT.
WE WERE I THINK WE WERE RUNNING ABOUT TWO MINUTES, LESS THAN TWO MINUTES ON CALLS TO GET SHUT OFFS DONE.
AND WE'RE TELLING THEM HOW TO TURN IT OFF THEMSELVES IN IF THEY WANTED TO.
BUT WE WERE WE WERE HOPPING ALL OVER TOWN.
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GETTING THEM SHUT DOWN.PEOPLE TURN OFF THEIR WATER AS THEIR FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS WERE BUSTING OR THEIR HOUSE WAS THE BOXES WERE FROZEN.
YEAH. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE EXPERIENCED ALL IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
LITERALLY, THE BOX WAS FROZEN SHUT AND I WAS HAVING TO PRY BAR THE BOX OPEN TO EVEN GET TO THE SHUT OFF. IT WAS SEVERAL OF OUR RESIDENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
YEAH. I'M SURPRISED THE PIPES DIDN'T BREAK WHERE IT CONNECTS TO THE METER.
BECAUSE THERE'S NO INSULATION THERE.
TYPICALLY THERE, TYPICALLY WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS THERE.
WE HAVE IN THE PAST WITH THOSE PLASTIC WATER METERS THAT ARE JUNK.
IF THEY GET EXPOSED BUT WE FIXED MOST OF THOSE SO WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WERE SURE APPRECIATIVE BECAUSE Y'ALL WERE VERY QUICK.
AND WE AS WELL HAD SOME BREAKS.
BUT I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN EDUCATIONAL THING.
AND IT MAKES ME THINK, YEAH, MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I THINK, FROM, YOU KNOW, GROWING UP IN NEW ORLEANS WITH HURRICANES AND STUFF COMES HURRICANE SEASON. AND THERE'S ALWAYS THESE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND MAYBE SOME KIND OF EDUCATIONAL THING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GETTING COLD SEASON.
JUST TURN OFF YOUR YOU KNOW, DON'T YOU KNOW, FIRE DEPARTMENT MIGHT NOT LIKE ME HEARING THAT HEARING SAY THIS, BUT TURN OFF YOUR.
YOU KNOW, OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S WE'VE GOT SOME BAD WEATHER COMING IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, IT'S HELPFUL, EDUCATIONAL.
AND, YEAH, BUT I HEAR YOU, GARY, THAT YOU CAN TELL THEM TODAY AND TOMORROW THEY WON'T KNOW. BUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN DO FROM OUR END TO HELP PROVIDE THINGS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO CALL Y'ALL, I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO THERE.
THE OTHER ISSUE WITH THE FIRE SPRINKLER, THOUGH, IS IF YOU TURN IT OFF, THAT'S ONE THING.
IF YOU GO TO REENERGIZE IT IMPROPERLY, YOU WILL SET IT OFF.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THE FIRE SPRINKLER COMPANIES PUT A LOCK OR A STATEMENT ON THE BOX TELLING YOU, DON'T TURN IT OFF.
ACTUALLY, ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT HAD ONE THAT WENT OFF, THEY HAD THOSE STATEMENTS.
THEY HAD TO BREAK THE LITTLE TIES TO TURN IT OFF, BECAUSE IF THEY TRY TO REENERGIZE IT IMPROPERLY, IT'LL ACTUALLY FLOOD THE HOUSE THERE.
JUST LIKE IF YOU REPLACE A WATER LINE, MORE LIKELY IF WE HAVE WE SHUT OFF A WATER LINE, IT'S GOING TO BREAK IN ONE OR TWO MORE SPOTS JUST BECAUSE OF THE HAMMER EFFECT OF THAT WATER RUSHING THROUGH THE WATER.
IF YOU SHUT THE LINE DOWN TOO FAST OR TOO QUICK. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO GO, YEAH.
YEAH. WELL, WE'VE HAD A LOT A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE ASKED US TO LOOK AT OUR FIRE SPRINKLER REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO GARY IS GOING TO AND BRANDON ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT'S REQUIRED TODAY BECAUSE OUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM ORDINANCE WAS PASSED IN SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
DO WE NEED IT? IS THERE SOMETHING BETTER? IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO? BECAUSE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ALONE, THERE'S NINE HOUSES THAT HAVE FIRE SPRINKLER BREAKS, THAT HAD, YEAH, IT'S PRETTY BAD.
AND THAT'S IT'S ALL OVER PARKER.
I CALLED A GUY THAT I KNOW THAT WORKS FOR A FIRE SPRINKLER COMPANY.
AND THEY WERE WHEN RIGHT AS THIS WAS HAPPENING, THEY WERE SIX MONTHS OUT ON REPAIRS ALREADY ALL OVER THE METROPLEX.
YEAH. SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKE AND SEE OR YOU KNOW, ARE WE THE PROBLEM? BUT IF YOU HAD IT IN PLACE BEFORE THEY REPEALED THAT SECTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES, YOU COULD KEEP IT.
BUT IF ANYTHING, AFTER THAT, YOU COULDN'T ADD TO IT.
SO FIGURED WE MIGHT AS WELL LOOK AT IT AND SEE.
YEAH, WE DON'T KNOW, OK, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WENT RIGHT ED.
AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE SITTING AT THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE THINGS THAT GARY AND MIKE AND RICHARD DID AND LUKE DID TO BE ABLE TO KEEP EVERYTHING GOING. THEY DID A LOT.
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YES THEY DID. WAY BEYOND WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT.THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WENT ON WHILE ALL THIS WAS HAPPENING.
MICHAEL AND DIANA WERE VERY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE POLITICAL SIDE OF GETTING AND AND THEY GOT A LOT DONE.
I THINK IT WAS A LOT BECAUSE OF THE THEM THAT WE HAD ELECTRICITY COME BACK ON AS SOON AS IT DID.
ON THE SURROUNDING TOWNS WE WORKED HARD TO GET WARMING STATIONS SET UP.
NO ONE REALLY USED THEM THAT MUCH.
BUT THE FIRE CHIEFS AROUND WYLIE, MURPHY, LUCAS, ALLEN AND PLANO HAD WARMING STATIONS SET UP EVENTUALLY AND THEN BEN TAYLOR PUT THAT ON HIS WEBSITE SO EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT THOSE WERE. AND I THINK THAT WAS THAT WAS A VERY POSITIVE ONE THAT THAT HAPPENED. SO THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WENT ON.
JANET [INAUDIBLE] THAT RUNS SOUTHPORT, IF YOU COULD HAVE HEARD HER ON THE PHONE, HOW DISAPPOINTED SHE WAS THAT SHE COULDN'T MAKE HERSELF WORK A WARMING STATION, BUT IT WAS FROZE UP AND SHE DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRICITY JUST IN CASE SHE SENT ONE OF HER GUYS OUT THERE TO CHECK ON IT ANYWAY, TO SEE IF THEY HAD POWER FROM SOME OTHER SOURCE AND THEY DIDN'T.
SO I'M SURE THERE WILL BE SOMETHING HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE FROM SOUTHPORT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HELP US.
SO SHE WAS VERY ANXIOUS TO DO THAT.
ONE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS WE DIDN'T HAVE A DEATH.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT THAT I HAVE HEARD ABOUT LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE SOME CLOSE CALLS, I THINK, BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
I HAVE A BREATHING APPARATUS THAT TAKES ELECTRICITY.
IT RUNS ON BATTERIES. IT'S GOT ONE HOUR LEFT.
AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THE ELECTRICITY IS NOT GOING TO COME BACK IN 48 HOURS.
WE NEED TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY MARKETING EMERGENCY PLAN PUT IN PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW WE DO WHAT WE DO WITH THAT.
NUMBERS TO CALL, PROCESSES TO US.
SO THAT PEOPLE THAT AREN'T GUESSING ON WHAT TO DO.
I KNOW MIKE HAS GOT SOMETHING FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE AND A PORTION OF THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT I HAVE FOUND IN THE CITY OF PARKER A DISASTER PLAN FOR HOW WE CAN APPROACH ALL OF THAT. WE NEED TO DO THAT.
YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I AGREE. AND THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE SOON.
WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS PROBLEM AGAIN.
GARY DOESN'T WANT IT TO HAVE IT AGAIN.
WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER SNOWSTORM BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.
WELL, AND IT MAY BE IN AUGUST.
AND IT MAY BE IN AUGUST. AND IT'S A DIFFERENT.
A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. I'VE SEEN NO NO AIR CONDITIONING IN AUGUST AND NO POWER.
THAT WE CAN, PEOPLE WILL KNOW THAT.
THE COMMENT OF TURNING THE WATER OFF I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
SOMETHING TO TELL THE CITIZENS ON HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO.
I THINK THAT MICHAEL MADE A GOOD POINT OF YOU CAN TURN THE WATER OFF YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM, BUT WHEN THE POWER COMES BACK ON [INAUDIBLE] THAT REALLY DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING, IF IT'S GOING TO COME BACK ON.
SO I BET THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ONLY KNOW HALF OF THAT.
THEY KNOW HOW TO TURN IT OFF THEY DON'T KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME BACK ON.
SO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS THAT I'M SURE AS WE GET MORE SUGGESTIONS FROM EVERYBODY, WE'LL HAVE MORE THAT COME UP.
BUT I JUST THE BOTTOM LINE TO ALL OF THIS, I THINK IS LUKE AND THE GUYS UP HERE THAT KEPT US ALIVE AND HEALTHY.
YEAH. EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T HAVE STOPLIGHTS.
PATTI, GARY, GRANT, CHIEF CHEF, CHIEF BROOKS.
CATHY. I WAS EMAILING HER AND GETTING STUFF OUT ON THE WEBSITE AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD GET IT. SHE WAS WORKING HOURS ON END.
LAURIE WAS ANSWERING THE PHONES NONSTOP TOO.
SO EVERYONE WAS EVERYONE DID A GREAT JOB.
MICHELLE WAS WORKING AT PD ANSWERING PHONES AT HOME, SO WE WERE GETTING A LOT DONE EVEN THOUGH THE BUILDING WASN'T OPEN, BUT WE WERE STILL GETTING A LOT DONE AND ROUTING PEOPLE TO THE RIGHT PLACES AND TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT.
LET'S LEARN FROM OUR LESSONS AND THEN COME UP WITH A PLAN AND MAKE SURE, EXCUSE ME, EVERYBODY KNOWS THE PLAN, KNOWS WHAT PHONE NUMBERS, MAYBE COME UP WITH A LITTLE BROCHURE.
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I DON'T KNOW BUT WE COULD ALL WORK TOGETHER TO HAVE SOMETHING BECAUSE JUST SAYING, OH, GEE, LET'S HOPE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN AND GO ON DOWN THE ROAD DOESN'T WORK.IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN AT SOME KIND OF WAY.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT IS THAT I THINK THAT COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENTS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WAS LIKE I THINK WE DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAD, WITH THE ABILITY THAT WE HAD TO GET ON SOME OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA GROUPS AND TRY TO PUT OUT THE INFORMATION OUT THERE AND ALSO WITH LUKE AND HIS TEAM TRYING TO PUT IT OUT ON THE WEBSITE.
AND THEN WE DEPLOYED EVER BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, UNEXPECTEDLY.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE GLITCHES WITH THAT, WITH SOME RESIDENTS NOT BEING ABLE TO GET ON. BUT GOING FORWARD, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ONE POINT OF CONTACT WHERE WE YOU KNOW, WHERE ALL THE INFORMATION, WHETHER WE'RE SPEAKING TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM FEEDBACK ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEN HAVING THAT INDIVIDUAL, WHOEVER WE DESIGNATE, PUT IT OUT ON ONE PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, FORUM, WHEREVER IT IS, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR OUR RESIDENTS SO THAT THERE'S NO CONFUSION AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHERE IS THE INFORMATION COMING FROM.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO RELY ON, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S FACEBOOK POST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON FROM HERE ON OUT AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION PART OF IT.
AND I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE EVER BRIDGE.
I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL I GOT THE LAST SESSION THAT YOU CAN'T CLOSE OUT OF IT REAL QUICK AND OR IT STOPS EVERYONE FROM GETTING THE MESSAGE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T WE WEREN'T EXPECTING TO DEPLOY THAT.
IT WAS JUST IT WAS WE WERE IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND WE HAD TO.
AND THAT WAS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND GOING FORWARD, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD PROGRAM ANYWAY, BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S WHETHER IT'S AN ICE STORM NOW OR TORNADO TOMORROW OR A WATER BOIL SITUATION OR A POWER, YOU KNOW, BLACKOUT BECAUSE OF THE HEAT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE NOW.
AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE POSSIBILITIES AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING A GOOD COMMUNICATION PLATFORM FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROJECTS OR PRIORITIES THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT. I WOULD SAY THAT WHAT WENT RIGHT IS THE HIRING OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE IN PARKER. WE HAVE SO MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES WHO STEPPED ASIDE FROM THEIR FAMILIES AND PUBLIC WORKS BEING ONE OF OUR FD, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND GRANT, EVEN LUKE, I KNOW YOU KEEP SAYING IT WAS THE STAFF. YOU WERE PART OF IT, TOO, BECAUSE I TALKED TO YOU EVERY COUPLE OF HOURS AND WE HIRED THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT WERE WILLING TO COME IN TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TAKE CARE OF PARKER FIRST.
AND I THINK THAT WE ALL LEARNED THAT IN THE EVENT OF A NATURAL DISASTER, WE'RE ON OUR OWN. YOU KNOW, WE ONCOR REP MADE THE COMMENT.
THEY DIDN'T CARE. WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY OR A HOSPITAL FACILITY.
SO WE REALLY WEREN'T A PRIORITY.
BUT THE TIME WE PULLED INTO IT AND, YOU KNOW, CANDY WAS AN ASSET IN THIS, THE GOVERNOR KNEW THE NAME OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND PUSHING THAT, I THINK THAT GOES A LONG WAY.
THE ONCOR REGIONAL REP KNOWS OUR NAME.
AND I THINK ON HIS CALL, HE SAID HE WAS ABOUT TIRED OF HEARING IT.
BUT WE GOT OUR POWER BACK ON AND WE REALIZED THAT IT'S OUR STAFF AND US THAT TAKE CARE OF PARKER. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WENT RIGHT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
CARS. IT WAS ACTUALLY A POWER WHEEL.
IT WAS THE ONE THAT THE KID CAN DRIVE AND THE LITTLE RADIO ON THERE HAD A USB PLUG IN AND IT CHARGED MY PHONE. I DID WHAT I HAD TO DO.
CINDY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO IT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL, BECAUSE THAT'S I COULD CHECK ON MY NEIGHBORS AND GIVE THEM HELP IF THEY NEEDED HELP, PARTICULARLY THE ELDERLY.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO GET SOME CAPTAINS AROUND THE CITY THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO STEP UP AND AND BE THE COMMUNICATOR AND THE WELLNESS CHECKER.
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YEAH. AND WE'RE GOING TO START GOING THROUGH THE EIN NUMBERS, THE CODES ON OUR, NO, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED.YOUR METER TO MAKE SURE THAT OURS ARE THE CORRECT ONES.
BECAUSE DURING ALL THIS ONCOR SAID WELL WE DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT WHEN THEY DID A GOOGLE SEARCH OR WHEN THEY SEARCHED IN THEIR SYSTEM, IT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OFF.
THIS COULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE HOAS TO REALLY SPARKLE BY SETTING UP WHAT TRUDY WAS SAYING WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH AND BEING ABLE TO CHECK ON THEIR OWN RESIDENTS.
AND SOME OF THE HOAS ARE SOPHISTICATED.
SOME ARE NOT. BUT SOME OF THEM WOULD PROBABLY ENJOY GETTING INTO DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I'M WONDERING, DO WE HAVE A DIRECTORY OF LIKE THE HOA PRESIDENTS OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON IN THAT WAY AS A GROUP WE CAN TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THIS SO THAT IN THE NEXT EVENT WE CAN WE HAVE AN ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.
AT LEAST THE HOAS CAN CHECK ON THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME OF THEM, WHETHER IT'S IN A DATABASE OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
WHO'S WHO AND WHO'S IN CHARGE.
WHO TO CALL. YEAH, WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE IT'S WHO IS THE CRITICAL PERSON IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE HOA.
YEAH. I THINK ONE LAST THING, JUST TO GO BACK TO WHAT MICHAEL WAS SAYING, THAT'S ONE THING I LEARNED IN THIS WHOLE EVENT, IS THAT LITERALLY PARKER IS ON THEIR OWN.
AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SUCH WE HAVE A SMALL CITY COMPARED TO ALL OUR SISTER CITIES AND WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES COMPARED TO OUR SISTER CITIES.
WE WERE ABLE TO SPARE OUR CITY FROM WATER BOILS, FROM LOSS OF LIFE AND MAJOR PROPERTY DAMAGES. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST PHENOMENAL.
BUT HERE, GOING FORWARD, I WOULD LOVE IT IF OUR CITY CAN BE TOTALLY INDEPENDENT IN A CRISIS. AND THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO DEPEND ON THE STATE WHO PROMISES THE GENERATORS AND FUEL. THAT'S NEVER COMING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF CITIES JUST SAY, OH, THE GOVERNMENT SAID IT'S COMING.
SO IT'S COMING AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO BE INDEPENDENTLY SELF-SUFFICIENT, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT PRIORITY FOR US.
YEAH, AND IT ON DOWN, I'M GOING TO ASK LUKE TO GET FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT WHAT IS IT THEY THINK THEY NEED TO WEATHER A STORM.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT IS WE NEED TO HAVE FUEL STORAGE CONTAINERS FOR DIESEL OR PROPANE OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
I WAS BEING LIKE TERRY FROM HURRICANE COUNTRY.
I WAS APPALLED TO LEARN THAT THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS DID NOT SEND DOWN EXTRA FUEL.
YOU KNOW, THEY DO IN A HURRICANE.
I MEAN, IN A HURRICANE, YOU GO OUT THERE AND THEY GOT BREAD TRUCKS, WATER TRUCKS.
AND THEY'VE GOT ALL OF THE GASOLINE STATIONS ARE PUMPED UP TO THE MAX AND THEN THEY HAVE THE FUEL TRUCKS SITTING OFF AS SOON AS IT GOES DOWN A LITTLE BIT, THEY'RE RIGHT OVER THERE TO TAP THEM OFF AGAIN.
AND WHEN BUCK-EE'S IS OUT OF GASOLINE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE.
I MEAN, MONDAY TO FRIDAY, THEY WERE OUT OF GAS.
THEY HAD BEEF JERKY IS WAS WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
AND AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY WILL BE SUBMITTING SOME BILLS TO THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS. YEAH. WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE FEMA LIST.
YEAH. WE'RE BUILDING UP THE RECEIVING AND EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE JUST GETTING ALL THOSE RECEIPTS HOURS THAT STAFF WORKED THAT WE CAN ONLY APPLY FOR LIKE OVERTIME HOURS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THAT AND ALL THE CODING AND EVERYTHING TO SUBMIT TO FEMA.
IT'S A TWENTY FIVE PERCENT MATCH, SO THEY'LL PAY SEVENTY FIVE.
AND THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE STOP SIGNS OUT THERE IS BECAUSE TXDOT DOESN'T PROVIDE THE SIGNS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE STOP.
BUT AT LEAST THE PEOPLE IN PARKER, I THINK, WERE SMART ENOUGH TO SLOW DOWN BECAUSE YOU WOULD SEE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE BLASTING THROUGH THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
AND I AM SURPRISED WE DIDN'T HAVE A BAD WRECK, BUT WE DID.
AND SO IT'S NOT THE CHIEF'S FAULT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE STOP LIGHTS
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SO WE DID THE BEST WE COULD.YEAH, YEAH. THE PAST, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, TXDOT DOES NOT LIKE US PUT IN STOP SIGNS OUT EVEN THOUGH SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES HAD THEM OUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY TXDOT DOESN'T LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S A LATER DISCUSSION WITH THEM ON THA T.
SO THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE KNOWN. YEAH.
THE FEMA ASSISTANCE THAT WE GET, CAN WE USE ANY OF THOSE FUNDS FOR ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED FOR FUTURE POTENTIAL DISASTERS, OR IS IT ONLY ALLOWED TO BE SPENT LIKE RETROACTIVELY FOR THE EVENT? IT'S RETROACTIVELY FOR THE EVENT.
THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, THEY DO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED I BELIEVE IT'S STILL AROUND. IT'S THE EMPG EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANNING GRANT.
I'VE DONE THOSE IN THE PAST WITH WHAT DID WE DO.
WE [INAUDIBLE] EOC IN THE BOTTOM OF JAIL WITH GRANT FUNDS THROUGH THAT, WE'VE BOUGHT SIRENS. WE'VE DONE LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THOSE GRANT FUNDS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THE CRITERIA.
THEY USUALLY HAVE SOME SORT OF FUNCTION THEY WANT TO FOCUS IN ON THAT YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FOCUS IS ON.
AND I'M JUST THINKING AHEAD, LIKE TORNADO SEASON IS COMING UP, YOU KNOW ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE CAN USE FOR THAT? I WOULD LIKE TO IF WE COULD BLACKOUTS HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP LIKE CALIFORNIA .
YEAH. A GENERATOR WITH AN EMPG GRANT BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FUNDS ALLOCATED TO THE PROGRAM AND WHAT'S WHAT'S ABLE TO WHAT WOULD MEET THE CRITERIA.
WHAT'S THE KIND OF AN AVERAGE PRICE OF A GENERATOR THAT WE WOULD NEED? ANY IDEA? CHIEF? A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A GENERATOR FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
AND I'VE HAD THREE PEOPLE ON SITE SO BUT THE GENERATOR WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WITH THIS LATEST COMPANY WAS OVER 50000.
AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT IF IT'S ONE GENERATOR, THREE SMALLER UNITS.
WHATEVER THEY COME BACK WITH IS THE BEST SCHEMATIC PLAN FOR THE CITY.
WHAT'S THE LIFE CYCLE? NOT LIFE CYCLE, BUT WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF USAGE YOU CAN GET FROM THE GENERATOR DURING A CRISIS? LIKE, IS IT LIKE TWO DAYS, THREE DAYS, ONE DAY? I MEAN, SOMETHING LIKE A 50000 DOLLAR ONE FOR OUR COMPLEX.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY'D LIKE TO ADD OTHER THAN WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF OUR STAFF.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING FOR STAFF TO AT SOME POINT RECOGNIZE THEM, IF POSSIBLE, AND
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GO FROM THERE. YEAH, THEY'LL BE HERE ANYWAY.OK, WELL, IF NO ONE HAS ANYTHING ELSE.
THEN WE WILL CLOSE OUT THE WORKSHOP ON WINTER STORM AFTER ACTION REVIEW.
[CALL TO ORDER]
I WILL NOW CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF MARCH 16 TO 2021 TO ORDER.MR. OLSON, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YES MADAM MAYOR, YOU DO. OK.
AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK MR. BIRKHOFF TO LEAD US IN THE AMERICAN PLEDGE.
ASK TRUDY TO LEAD US IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE.
HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS HERE?
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM [INAUDIBLE] IT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES.WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM BILLY BARON.
IT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES.
WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM ANDY REDMOND.
AGAIN, IT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES.
WE NO LONGER READ THESE IN OPEN COUNCIL.
AND THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM JIM REED.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT REGARDING WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST MEETING, ACTUALLY, AND IF THERE WAS ANY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PROPOSAL MAYBE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY SERVICE KIND OF GROUP.
WE TALKED ABOUT GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME REMNANT DAMAGE THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING AND STILL WORKING THROUGH SO AS A COMMUNITY WE DID SUCH A GOOD JOB DURING THE CRISIS, BUT THERE'S AFTERMATH.
SO THERE WAS SOME WAY WE COULD GET TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND PROMOTE THAT.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY BECAUSE THERE'S STILL WATER BREAKS, THERE'S LANDSCAPING ISSUES AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GOOD FOR A COMMUNITY TO DO THAT.
AND THE SECOND THING WAS ALREADY KIND OF MENTIONED.
BUT I THINK THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED FOR THE SPRING STORMS COMING UP BECAUSE THE TORNADO SEASON IS RIGHT AROUND THE YOU KNOW THAT I HAD MENTIONED THIS JUST RECENTLY. AND SO I THINK THAT OUR COUNCILMAN ABRAHAM AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PREPARE FOR THAT. I KNOW WE HAVE FACILITIES IN PLACE AND WE HAVE A WHOLE PROGRAM TO TAKE CARE OF THAT, BUT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE PREPARED.
OK, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? WELL, NEXT, WE HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS.
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. SLAUGHTER, MARCH 17TH AT 6:00 P.M.THAT IS CORRECT. OK, AND THAT'S IN THIS ROOM.
YES, OK. PARKS AND RECREATION WILL MEET ON APRIL 14TH, 2021, SIX P.M.
AND IT WILL MEET VIRTUALLY ONLY NEXT WEEK.
IS JUST A REMINDER THAT THURSDAY, APRIL 1ST, IS THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE FOR THE MY FIRST ELECTION FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I THINK SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.
WE HAVE EXCUSE ME, APRIL 24TH IS NATIONAL PRESCRIPTION DRUG TAKE BACK DAY, WHICH IF YOU HAVE SOME DRUGS THAT YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN OR HAVE EXPIRED OR WHATEVER, YOU CAN JUST DRIVE UP, DROP THEM OFF AT THE POLICE STATION.
AN OFFICER WILL BE THERE TO TAKE THEM FROM YOU AND KEEP ON GOING.
WON'T TAKE YOU ANY TIME, BUT IT KEEPS THEM FROM GOING INTO OUR STORM WATER.
OK, VOTING WILL ACTUALLY START WITH EARLY VOTING ON APRIL 19TH.
EARLY VOTING WILL END ON APRIL 23RD.
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I'M SORRY, I CAN'T READ.AND THEN ON ELECTION DAY ITSELF IS ON MAY 1ST.
SEVEN TO SEVEN. OK, THAT'S ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
OK, NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WE HAVE FOUR THINGS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS ANYTHING PULLED OFF OF THE CONSENT.NOT HEARING THAT I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION.
I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDAS AS PRESENTED.
NOT HEARING ANY THEN I'LL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OK, ANYBODY AGAINST NOBODY CHANGED THEIR MIND.
NEXT, WE HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS AND WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
[5. DISCUSSION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION ON POSSIBLY CANCELING THE APRIL 20, 2021 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. [PETTLE]]
ANY DISCUSSION, AN APPROPRIATE ACTION ON POSSIBLY CANCELING THE APRIL 20TH, 2021 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING? THIS IS AT MY REQUEST.WE WILL BE HAVING VOTING GOING ON IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.
WE HAVE NO OTHER PLACE TO HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE WISE TO GO AHEAD AND CANCEL THIS MEETING SO PEOPLE DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE ENGAGED THAT NIGHT WITH COUNCIL AND THEY'RE NOT.
SO I WOULD ASK IF THERE IS A MOTION, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CANCEL THE APRIL 20TH, 2021 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND THAT WE CANCEL OUR APRIL 20TH NORMAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OTHER THAN Y'ALL DO KNOW THAT IF SOMETHING CAME UP, WE CAN CALL ONE. WE'LL JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'LL HOLD IT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CANCELING THE APRIL 20TH, 2021 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
ANYONE OPPOSED, THE MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
OK, ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ACCEPTING A DONATION
[6. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON DONATION ACCEPTANCE FOR $500 FOR PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND $500 FOR PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM ANDREA L. PETRO AND SCOTT L. JEFFERIES. [PETTLE/OLSON]]
OF FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM ANDREA PETRO AND SCOTT JEFFRIES IN HONOR OF MS. PETRO'S FATHER, WHO IS A FORMER CHIEF OF POLICE IN LAKEWOOD, OHIO.OK, OK, COUNCIL COULD I HAVE A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE DONATION FOR FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH OUR SINCERE THANKS. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DONATION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SECOND.
OK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THE GENEROUS DONATION OF FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE PARKER POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM ANDREA PETRO AND SCOTT JEFFERIES IN HONOR OF MS. PETRO'S FATHER.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY DISCUSSION I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE DONATION.
OK, ANYONE OPPOSED? DIDN'T THINK SO. OK, THE MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU. OK, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON
[7. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2021-662, APPROVING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND BIRKHOFF, HENDRICKS & CARTER, REGARDING THE AMERICAN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE ACT OF 2018 WATER SYSTEM RISK AND RESILIENCE ANALYSIS AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. [MACHADO/BIRKHOFF/OLSON]]
RESOLUTION 2021-662.APPROVING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT OF THE CITY OF PARKER AND BIRKHOFF, HENDRICKS AND CARTER REGARDING THE AMERICAN WATER
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INFRASTRUCTURE ACT OF TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN WATER SYSTEM RISK AND RESILIENCE ANALYSIS AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT.TURN THIS OVER TO GARY AND JOHN BIRKHOFF, THE CITY ENGINEER, TO DISCUSS THIS.
KIND OF GO OVER THE BACKGROUND OF IT.
JOHN BIRKHOFF WITH BIRKHOFF, HENDRICKS AND CARTER, DALLAS, TEXAS.
SO BACK IN 2018, CONGRESS PASSED THE AMERICA'S WATER INFRASTRUCTURE ACT OF 2018.
IT ACTUALLY PASSED WITH THE HOUSE ON A VOICE VOTE IN THE SENATE, PASSED IT NINETY NINE TO ONE. SO APPARENTLY THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD UNFUNDED MANDATE TO PUT ON YOU GUYS, AND IT REALLY STEMS PROBABLY FROM THE BIOTERRORISM ACT OF 2002.
SO AFTER AFTER 9/11, YOU KNOW, ALL WATER SYSTEMS HAD TO GO THROUGH A VULNERABILITY STUDY AND YOU HAD TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAD AND HOW THEY WERE VULNERABLE.
AND THEY HAD TO PUT A REPORT TOGETHER AND TURN THAT INTO THE EPA.
AND THAT REPORT WAS NEVER FINALIZED BECAUSE IT COULD NEVER BECOME PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. SO IT IS THAT HAS ALL EXPIRED.
AND I GUESS PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACT OF 2018, THEY WANT CITIES TO GO BACK NOW.
AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT YOUR VULNERABILITIES REALLY JUST TO ASSESS WEAK POINTS IN YOUR SYSTEM, WHETHER IT'S FROM NATURAL DISASTERS, YOU KNOW, SNOWSTORMS, ICE STORMS, TORNADOES TO TERRORISTS, TO SOMEONE THAT'S JUST MESSING WITH THE WATER SYSTEM.
AND SO THE EPA HAS A PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
THERE'S A SERIES OF ABOUT EIGHT MEETINGS.
THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GET FROM THAT, THEN YOU UPLOAD AND DO A PROGRAM THAT THE EPA HAS PROVIDED. THEY DON'T KEEP THE INFORMATION AND THAT THAT WILL THEN, YOU KNOW, CRUNCH ALL THE INFORMATION AND COME OUT WITH PRIORITIES.
THEN WE WILL COME IN AT THE END AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HERE'S A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
AND IF THE CITY CHOOSES TO DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS, THEN YOU COULD PROGRAM THEM IN.
PART OF THIS IS ALSO SECURITY, INTERNET SECURITY, CYBERSECURITY.
WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT WILL COME IN AND AND LOOK AT HOW DO YOU BEST SECURE YOUR WATER SCADA SYSTEM SO THAT IT CANNOT BE HACKED.
I THINK YOU SAW IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS FLORIDA, YOU KNOW, THEY HACKED INTO THIS SCADA SYSTEM AND, YOU KNOW, CHANGED THE CHEMICAL MAKEUP OF THE TREATED WATER.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A PRETTY GOOD OPERATOR THAT SAID SOMETHING'S WRONG AND TURNED IT ALL OFF. BUT THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, SEEING WHERE YOU'RE VULNERABLE, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU CAN BEST SOLVE THOSE THINGS.
SO AND THERE'S A DUE DATE ON THIS OF JUNE 30TH FOR COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE ABOVE THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED PEOPLE AND THE FINES FROM THE EPA IS TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY UNTIL YOU TURN IT IN.
SO ONCE THIS GETS DONE, IT GETS CERTIFIED AND THEN THROUGH YOUR PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM IDENTIFICATION NUMBER THAT THAT THE STATE HAS AND THE EPA HAS.
THEY WILL LOG YOU IN THAT YOU SUCCESSFULLY CERTIFY THAT YOU'VE COMPLETED THIS.
THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR A BOOK TO BE TURNED OVER LIKE THEY DID UNDER THE VULNERABILITY STUDIES. BUT THERE WILL BE A REPORT PREPARED.
SO IT IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY DONE WHERE ALL YOUR WEAKNESSES ARE SO IT'S A SECURE DOCUMENT WHEN IT'S COMPLETED. SO IT APPEARS THAT THE TOTAL COST OF THIS, THEN IT'S ABOUT ROUGHLY 40,000 THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH BEFORE JUNE 20.
BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO RECEIVED NOTICE OF THIS KIND OF THIS AND WHEN WAS NOTICE RECEIVED? DID YOU SEE GARY RECEIVE IT, DID LUKE RECEIVE IT? WHO? SO WHEN THIS ACT CAME OUT.
WAS IT IN 2018 THAT WE RECEIVED NOTICE OF IT.
WAS IT LAST WEEK, GRANT? WAS IT BUDGETED? OK, I SEE.
WHEN DID WHEN DID WE FIND OUT ABOUT THIS? SO THERE WAS A BIG, BIG PUSH FOR DIFFERENT SIZED CITIES AND WE HAD SENT SOMETHING UP HERE IN JANUARY SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOUR TIME'S ROLLING, IF YOU ALL WANTED TO PROCEED, WHETHER YOU WANTED TO GO TO TRAINING AND DO IT YOURSELF AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE YOU? AND THEN WE CAME BACK, SAID, YOU KNOW, THE TIME'S RUNNING OUT.
WHERE ARE YOU? IN MOST COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE CARROLLTON, YOU KNOW, THEY DID
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IN A VERY TIMELY MANNER.EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOWN TO THE WIRE.
BUT. WELL, I'M JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE WHEN THIS CAME UP FOR THIS MEETING, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I LEARNED OF IT.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, HAS IT BEEN SITTING HERE SOMEWHERE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR TWO YEARS? DID WE HAVE IT AT BUDGET SESSION WHERE WE COULD BUDGET THIS? I'M YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE BEFUDDLED BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL JANUARY, FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME.
THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU ALL.
SORRY. DID YOU KNOW ABOUT IT? OK, THEN, BRANDON, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE WRITE A LETTER TO THESE PEOPLE AND LET THEM KNOW FROM NOW ON, THEY WILL SUBMIT A SUBMIT NOTICE OF THEIR STUFF TO US AND EITHER THEY SUBMIT IT TO YOU OR TO LUKE, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A 50000 DOLLAR SURPRISE DOES NOT DO GOOD THINGS FOR MY HEART.
IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER WE NEGOTIATED WITH JOHN ON THIS TO COME DOWN ON THE PRICE.
YEAH. SO YEAH. NO, I WAS TRYING TO PUT SOME ICING ON IT HERE.
NO I APPRECIATE JOHN AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT HE DOES FOR US.
AND I DOUBT THAT YOU'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS, BUT.
YEAH, SO WHEN THIS CAME OUT AND THERE'S A SCHEDULE OF DIFFERENT SIZED CITIES, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN THE LAST, THERE WAS GREATER THAN ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THAT WAS DUE IN MARCH OF 2020 THAN 50000 TO 100000.
SO NOW THE GROUP OF THREE THOUSAND 50000 IS REALLY IN THE PROCESS.
SO IT WAS THE OTHER ONE ENDED, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER 2020.
THE NEXT GROUP REALLY GETS IN QUEUE TO GET IT DONE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE EPA OR TCQ CONTACTS THE CITY THROUGH THEIR PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM.
I HAVE A QUESTION THEN FOR BRANDON.
GO AHEAD. NO, I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH BASICALLY FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS BY JUNE 20TH.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BE FINISHED BY JUNE 30TH.
SO EVEN IF YOU DID WRITE A LETTER, CONSIDERING IT'S A FEDERAL AGENCY AND I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT US, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO.
BUT WHAT ARE THE LEGAL OPTIONS? NO, NO, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE LIKE WHAT WHAT IS OUR RECOURSE IN THIS, IF THERE IS ANY? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY.
BOTH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT PASSED DOWN UNFUNDED MANDATES EVERY TIME THEY'RE IN SESSION. SO BUCKLE UP BECAUSE TEXAS IS IN SESSION NOW.
SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER DURING BUDGETING.
MORE RESOURCES, I KNOW LOOKING AT BOTH MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE LEGISLATURE AND THE STATE LEVEL. AND TML IS GOOD TO GIVE US NOTICE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT THIS IS A THIS WAS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IN 2018 AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T GET NOTICED UNTIL NOW.
WELL I MEAN 40,000 DOLLARS FOR A CITY OUR SIZE IS IT'S LIKE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A HARDSHIP CONSIDERING.
LIKE JOHN SAID, WE COULD TRY TO DO IT OURSELVES AND THEN IT WOULDN'T COST US 40,000 DOLLARS. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT OURSELVES.
I THINK IT KIND OF PUTS US IN A HARD SPOT BECAUSE NO OFFENSE TO MR. BIRKHOFF, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IS IN LINE OR IS IT TEN TIMES WHAT WE SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THIS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY NOTICE TILL THE VERY LAST MINUTE. SO WE'RE KIND OF BACK AGAINST THE WALL HERE.
THIS DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL COMFORTABLE AT ALL TO BE KIND OF SLAPPED WITH THIS.
AND I MEAN, EVEN THIS CONTRACT HAS DATES IN IT THAT WE'VE ALREADY PASSED.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CONCERN.
I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT CONCERNS WITH THIS IN THE PRICING, THE WAY IT'S BROKEN OUT. I MEAN, I NOTICE THE VERY FIRST THING YOU GUYS DO IS GET A FOUR THOUSAND DOLLAR CHECK RIGHT OFF THE BAT JUST TO GET STARTED BEFORE PRODUCING ANYTHING.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN EXCELLENT TO THE CITY OF PARKER, BUT IT'S JUST A GENERALIZED STATEMENT OF THIS IS NOT OK.
WHEN I WHEN I HEAR THE MAYOR TOLD ME TO WRITE A LETTER, I KNOW THAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE ARE LEVELS TO THAT, AND THAT MEANS GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHY THIS HAS HAPPENED AND FIND OUT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE AND WHO TO WRITE THE LETTER TO.
AND SO SHE'S TELLING ME TO WRITE A LETTER, BUT THAT THAT COMES WITH OTHER LAYERS OF STUFF FOR ME TO DO.
I WANT THEM I WANT TO GIVE THEM NOTICE OF WHO THAT WE REQUIRE NOTICE AND AND WHO TO GIVE
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IT TO, BECAUSE THAT'S, AS YOU KNOW, IS A LEGAL ISSUE.SO WHO DID GIVE US NOTICE? WE DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING.
I MEAN, AS WE START TO SEE THINGS, THESE THINGS COME OUT, YOU SAY, OK, AND YOUR GROUP IS BACK IN JANUARY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME TO GET STARTED.
YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT AGAIN IN FIVE YEARS SO.
I GUESS MAYBE THIS IS THE FIVE YEAR NOTICE EVERY FIVE YEARS YOU GOT TO UPDATE IT.
SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THIS.
WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH THE TRAINING OR THE MEETINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED? IS IT YOU OR IS IT SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY? SO WE'RE WE WENT THROUGH AND WENT THROUGH THEIR TRAINING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO FACILITATE THE MEETINGS WITH GARY, HIS STAFF.
I MEAN, ANYBODY CAN BE BE IN THE GROUP TO MAKE SOME OF THE THESE DECISIONS INPUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, PUMP STATION.
YOU KNOW, AS YOU TALK ABOUT GENERATORS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A GENERATOR AT YOUR PUMP STATION, YOU KNOW, AND IT HAS A CERTAIN CAPACITY DO YOU WANT MORE RELIABILITY? YOU PUT A SECOND GENERATOR IN.
IT'S THINGS LIKE THAT THAT IT WILL BE REVIEWED.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN ICE STORM [INAUDIBLE] DID IN CARROLLTON, YOU KNOW, IF THE DAM BREAKS, YOU KNOW, AND YOU HAVE WATER HAD IT, HOW DO YOU OVERCOME THESE THINGS? AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ASSESSMENT GOES THROUGH.
YOU CAN'T TAKE AN EXISTING ASSESSMENT AND APPLY IT TO PARKER.
NO, BECAUSE EACH ONE YOU HAVE TO INPUT THE INFORMATION YOU GET INTO THE EPA'S PROGRAM THAT IT THEN CRANKS AND GIVES YOU A RESULT AND A YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RATE IT ONE TO TEN. THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO RATE IT FOR YOU.
AND MAYBE THAT'S THE EPA DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE JUST TO TAKE ONE FROM ONE CITY AND GO TO THE NEXT. SO HE'S GOING TO HELP WITH THE CYBERSECURITY PART OF IT.
RIGHT. SO WE'LL HANDLE ALL THOSE COMPONENTS AND WHERE WE ARE NOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMBINE SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT FIVE, SIX MEETINGS THAT YOU USUALLY MEET WEEKLY, YOU KNOW, INPUT THE DATA, GET OUTPUT, COME BACK THE NEXT MEETING, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS THING IN THIS AND KIND OF JUST GROWS IN THEIR PROCESS.
SO FORGIVE MY FRANKNESS FOR SIX MEETINGS, IT'S THIRTY NINE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED TEN DOLLARS. THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
WE'RE GOING TO MEET WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK IN.
WE'VE GOT THE PROGRAMS. WE'VE GOT TO GO IN AND SPEND TIME LOADING IT UP, BRING IT BACK OUT.
OK, SO I'M ASSUMING AT LEAST A CYBER SECURITY CONSULTANT IS INCLUDED IN THIS PRICE, HE IS INCLUDED IN THAT.
HE'S THE 5000 DOLLARS, I'M ASSUMING, RIGHT.
THAT'S PART OF IT I MEAN, HE'S GOING TO DO SOME OF HIS WORK AND WE'VE GOT TO GO IN AND LOAD IT BACK INTO THE PROGRAM AND THEN WORK THROUGH THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST WE SPEND FIVE MINUTES.
IT'S MORE THAN THAT. I MEAN, WE'RE SPENDING QUITE A FEW HOURS BEHIND THE SCENES GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ALL ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN STILL GET SOME TRAINING BETWEEN NOW AND THE END AND TAKE IT ON YOURSELF. SO, JOHN, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE? YOU SAY, YEAH, THERE'S ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS AND I KIND OF LOOK THROUGH, LOOKED THROUGH IT A BIT. BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID WHEN THEY COME BACK TO YOU WITH PRIORITIES.
RIGHT. SO THE PROGRAM, THE WAY THE WAY THE EPA PUT IT TOGETHER, IT'S NOT MY PROGRAM.
IT'S NOT AN OFF THE SHELF PROGRAM.
AND SO AS YOU START TO INPUT THE VARIOUS THINGS, YOU KNOW, IT WILL COME BACK WITH DIFFERENT RESULTS. YOU ANALYZE THOSE AND THEN IN THE END, YOU'LL GET A PRIORITY NUMBER ON THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO DO.
AND AGAIN, WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO AND WHAT ANOTHER CITY WANTS TO DO, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME. SO IN THEORY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HELP US WITH RISK MANAGEMENT WITH RESPECT TO OUR WATER SYSTEMS? I MEAN. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT OF THE EPA IS, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE MORE RESILIENT IN YOUR WATER SYSTEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE AN EVENT OCCUR, YOU'RE NOT OUT OF WATER.
BUT YOU INDICATED THAT THIS WAS ALL CONFIDENTIAL.
SO THE REPORT THAT GETS PRODUCED WOULD BE KIND OF WITHIN THE CITY AND WITHIN THE CITY.
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YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, THIS REPORT.IT'S GOING TO SAY THESE ARE THE WEAKNESSES IN YOUR SYSTEM, JUST LIKE THE VULNERABILITY STUDY. YOU DIDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PUT OUT ALL THE STUFF THAT'S NOT GOOD IN YOUR SYSTEM OR THE WEAK POINTS FOR THE BAD GUYS TO COME AFTER YOU.
I MEAN, AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, FROM 2002, THAT'S WHERE THE EPA HAS BEEN FOCUSED.
AND THIS IS REALLY JUST A I THINK, A RECREATION OF WHAT WE DID BACK IN 2002 IN A DIFFERENT MANNER.
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR LAW, AS I SAID, EVERY FIVE YEARS, YOU'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THIS NOW. AND SO THE PLAN WILL BE SOMETHING WE AS OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE WORKING TOWARD. SO THAT IN THEORY, IN FIVE YEARS WE WON'T HAVE THESE WEAKNESSES ANYMORE.
IS THAT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WHAT I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT US? SO THIS IS GOING TO BRING UP THESE ARE THINGS THAT COLLECTIVELY PUBLIC WORKS, THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THESE ARE THE WEAK POINTS IN THE SYSTEM THAT ACTUALLY GETS DOCUMENTED.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY SAYS WE WANT TO DO THESE THINGS, YOU'RE NOT MANDATED TO DO THEM. BUT IF YOU WANT TO MANDATE THOSE THINGS, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN THERE'S FUNDING TO GO DO THEM. AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE NEW THREATS? YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
YOU KNOW, IF A TORNADO COMES THROUGH AND TAKES YOUR PUMP STATION OUT, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THE TORNADO COMES AND TAKES THE PUMP STATION OUT, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY MAKE YOU DO SOME OF SOME OF THIS WORK, THAT THERE'S NO REASON WHY THEY WOULD HAVE US DO THIS AND NOT MAKE US DO SOMETHING LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD, JUST KNOWING YEAH, THAT'S BASICALLY JUST GOING TO COME DOWN.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
AND THE NEXT ROUND OF WHATEVER, THEY'RE GOING TO BRING THIS UP AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST GO AROUND, A LOT OF CITIES WENT AND, YOU KNOW, THEY NEEDED GENERATORS AND A NUMBER OF THEIR FACILITIES.
SO THEY WENT OUT AND BOUGHT PORTABLE GENERATORS.
WELL, THAT WAS REALLY GOOD FOR THE TYPE OF THOUGHT PROCESS OF A TORNADO HITTING, YOU KNOW, ONE FACILITY OR, YOU KNOW, A BROWNOUT SOMEWHERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, HERE WE JUST WENT THROUGH A SNOWSTORM AND SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN.
SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT HAD THAT ONE GENERATOR, THEY WANTED TO SHARE TO FIVE SITES.
YOU KNOW, IN THIS DEAL, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE FIVE GENERATORS IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING, IF YOU HAVE THE FUEL AND IF YOU DON'T FREEZE AT ALL. YOU KNOW, SOME CITIES HAVE PUMPS OUTSIDE.
SO NOW THEY'VE GOT TO GO IN AND SAY, OK, HOW DO WE HARDEN THOSE TO ZERO DEGREE WEATHER? THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BUILD STRUCTURES AND HAVE SOME TYPE OF HEATING.
YOU KNOW, LUCKILY YOUR PUMPS ARE INSIDE, YOU KNOW, WAS THE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, AS WE EXPLORE ALL THIS WITH PUBLIC WORKS, DID YOU HAVE ANY FREEZING YOUR PUMP STATION? YOU KNOW, IF YOU DID, THEN IS THAT REQUIRED INSTEAD OF FORCED VENTILATION THROUGH THERE THAT WE GET IN TO SOME HEATING, INFRARED HEATING OR SOME TYPE PROPANE HEATING? I MEAN, JUST LIKE WE'RE TALKING A GENERATOR HERE IS DIFFERENT FUELS THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, SUFFICE, YOU KNOW, FOR DIFFERENT EVENTS, YOU KNOW, DIESEL IS THE MOST RELIABLE, YOU KNOW, PROPANE, NOT NECESSARILY ALL THAT RELIABLE, YOU KNOW, FOR A GENERATOR TO START.
IF YOU HAVE GENERATORS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ONLY GOOD IF YOU EXERCISE THEM.
SO NOW DO YOU PUT LOAD BANKS ON THEM OR DO YOU PUT A LOAD ON THEM OR DO YOU JUST RUN THEM THINKING THAT YOU'RE DOING GOOD, THAT THE GENERATOR WILL BE READY WHEN YOU NEED IT? SO THE RESULT OF THIS IS GOING TO AMOUNT TO ADDITIONAL COST FOR THE CITY OF PARKER BASED ON REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY IDENTIFY? IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THOSE THINGS.
AND THEN YOU. BUT I THOUGHT I JUST GOT THROUGH HEARING EVENTUALLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CHOICE TO SAY NO.
KNOWING HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WORKS ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.
IT'S GOING TO BE IT'LL PROBABLY COME DOWN AT SOME LATER POINT.
YEAH. BUT IN THIS LAW, IN THIS PROCESS, IT'S NOT SAYING THAT ONCE YOU IDENTIFY WHAT THESE THINGS ARE THAT YOU ARE FORCED TO DO IT.
THAT'S A DECISION THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD MAKE THAT YOU WANT TO BUY A SECOND GENERATOR.
YOU WANTED TO HEAT THE PUMP STATION.
AND THIS ALL HAS JUST TO DO WITH WATER.
WELL, ULTIMATELY, I DON'T BLAME YOU.
I THINK GENERALLY, JUST AS A COMMENT BEING OUR ENGINEER, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.
HEY, GUYS, A YEAR AGO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS COMING UP.
I'M ALREADY DOING IT FOR CITIES THAT HAVE WHATEVER POPULATION WAS DUE AS A HEADS UP WHEN IT WAS OBVIOUS WE WEREN'T PLANNING FOR IT UNTIL IT CAME OUT.
BUT MY QUESTION HERE IS ACTUALLY TO MR. MACHADO AND LUKE, ARE WE PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF DOING THIS OURSELVES FOR 40,000 DOLLARS? BECAUSE IF WE'VE GOT TO DO IT EVERY FIVE YEARS, IT'S 40,000 NOW, 40,000 IN FIVE YEARS, ASSUMING PRICES DON'T GO UP AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE PROGRAM, SO I COULDN'T TELL YOU IF WE'RE CAPABLE OR NOT WITHOUT LOOKING AT IT.
I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE STAFF WE HAVE NOT KNOCKING GARY OR ANYONE.
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WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITIES.OR WE COULD TRAIN OUR STAFF TO DO THIS FOR THE UPCOMING YEARS, WHICH WOULD BE CHEAPER THAN 40,000 DOLLARS.
OR WE CAN ALSO FIND OUT WHAT THE OTHER PROVIDERS ARE CHARGING FOR A REPORT LIKE THIS.
MAY BE A VERY REASONABLE PRICE, BUT IT MAY BE ASTRONOMICAL TOO.
JUST THE HOURS IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU GET THE TRAINING MANUALS, THERE'S FOUR THREE INCH BINDERS THAT YOU GO THROUGH TO JUST ZERO IT DOWN TO THESE STEPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND AGAIN, YOU WON'T HURT MY FEELINGS IF YOU WANT TO GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE.
SO, SO SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA IF THIS IS IN THE BALLPARK? IT WOULD SURPRISE ME IF IT IS NOT, BECAUSE IN MY DEALINGS FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN WITH MR. BIRKHOFF, HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY REASONABLE.
BUT I CAN'T I HAVEN'T COMPARED WITH OTHER CITIES, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M LOOKING AT DOING NEED TO HAVE GRANT INCLUDE A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR THE EPA? I MEAN, IF THIS IS GOING TO COME OFF, YOU KNOW, WILL WE START BUILDING THE MONEY SO WE HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HURT SO MUCH, 10,000 EVERY EVERY TIME AS OPPOSED TO 50,000 AT ONE BIG FLOP.
I SAID UP THIS JUST SURPRISED THE HECK OUT ME.
DO WE HAVE TIME TO DO MORE RESEARCH INTO THIS BEFORE WE HAVE TO GET THIS APPROVED? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS TAKES.
I KNOW YOU SAY IT'S HOURS, BUT I.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, THE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN.
YOU'RE ALREADY BEHIND. [LAUGHTER] BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, RIGHT. YOU CAN STACK UP MORE MEETINGS AND TRY TO GET THROUGH THE PROGRAM IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE OF THIS.
YOU KNOW, LIKE THE IMPACT FEES THAT YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THAT REQUIRES A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER TO DO. THIS, DOESN'T REQUIRE AN ENGINEER TO DO.
THIS IS JUST A SERVICE YOUR FIRM HAS DECIDED TO TAKE ON? WE WORK FOR CITIES.
RIGHT. AND A LOT OF THEM NEED THIS ASSISTANCE BECAUSE.
OK. I HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE TRAINING PROGRAMS ARE STILL AVAILABLE OUT THERE OR NOT.
YOU KNOW, WE DID OURS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY IN THE LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE YOU KNOW, THAT GROUP OF CITIES IS MORE WHAT WE SERVICE THAN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
WE DON'T WE DON'T WORK WITH THOSE GUYS.
I ULTIMATELY WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO TABLING THIS SO WE CAN GET SOME MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE AGREE TO 40,000 DOLLARS.
OK, LUKE OR COUNCIL, DO YOU KNOW ANY REASON WHERE NOT PROCEEDING TONIGHT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL? WELL, I THINK WE GET INTO SOME ISSUES HERE, IF WE'RE GOING TO USE AN ENGINEERING FIRM, YOU HAVE TO USE THEM BASED ON MERITS UNDER OK, JOHN, HOW DID YOU MAKE THAT? THE ONLY ISSUE WOULD BE TIMELINES.
OUR NEXT MEETING IS NOT UNTIL APRIL AT THIS POINT.
AND WE HAVE TO DO AN RFP FOR COMPANIES THAT DO THIS KIND OF.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST DO IT BASED ON PRICE FOR ENGINEERING FIRMS. THEY FALL UNDER THE PROFESSIONAL.
HE SAID IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ENGINEERING FIRM.
BUT IT WOULD BE AN RFP FOR A WHATEVER THIS IS CALLED.
WATER SYSTEM RISK ANALYSIS AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN AND IT'S LIKELY THE ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT APPLIED TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHO KNOWS HOW TO DO IT.
SO A TABLING IT AND LOOKING AT IT PROCESS IF YOU BRING IT BACK NEXT.
WELL, AND THE RISK THAT WE ALSO RUN, EVEN THOUGH I THINK TABLING IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA IF WE HAD THE TIME.
BUT YOU ALSO RUN THE RISK OF TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY, WHICH IS MORE THAN THE COST OF THE 40,000 THAT WE'RE PAYING.
RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE TWO DAYS AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TWO BUSINESS DAYS OR TWO.
YOU KNOW, IT'S COUNT CALENDAR DAYS.
EPA WASN'T GOOD ABOUT GIVING US NOTICE.
PROMPT THEY'D BE ON THE PHONE. BUT, YOU KNOW.
BUT THAT'S QUICK. YEAH. YEAH, THOSE PHONES ARE QUICK WITH THE EPA AND THEY'LL TELL YOU THAT. YEAH.
SO JUST WEIGHING BOTH THE COST AND THE
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WATERFRONT TO? YEAR, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, TO HAVE A SPECIAL FUND FOR AN UNFUNDED MANDATES FROM THE GOVERNMENT. SECOND THING THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].YEAH, I'LL ADMIT, I DIDN'T COME HERE UNTIL I THINK LATE 2018.
OCTOBER 1, 2018. SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS WAS PASSED AND THE FOUR YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, I DIDN'T HAVE A WATER SYSTEM.
AND THEN BEFORE THAT I HAD WATER SYSTEM.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH THE PIPE.
AND HONESTLY, WE'RE RIGHT ON THE THRESHOLD OF NOT EVEN HAVING TO DO ONE.
YEAH. THE THIRTY THREE HUNDRED POPULATION.
THAT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR POPULATION WAS CLASSIFIED AS IN 2018 WITH THE WHOEVER IS SENDING OUT THE NOTICE WE MAY NOT HAVE EVEN GOTTEN.
SO IT'S BASED ON POPULATION IN 2018> BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE OVER 3300 NOW.
RIGHT? AND WE, I JUST LOOKED, WE WERE, WE WERE OVER THAT ON THE CUSP.
WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
THE OTHER THING IS HOW DO WE PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? THAT WE'RE GOING TO SIT DOWN WITH JOHN BEFORE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AND GO OVER ANYTHING THAT COULD BE COMING UP ENGINEERING WISE, WE TRY TO KEEP INFORMED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THERE ARE THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, TML.
WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'M ASKING BRANDON TO GIVE THE EPA FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
NOTICE THAT THEY NEED TO GIVE US NOTICE.
YEAH. AND THEY NEED TO GIVE IT TO THE RIGHT PERSON.
IT'S NOT FAIR FOR THEM TO SEND SOMETHING OUT TO JOHN PAUL, WHO LOOKS AT IT AND SAYS, NOT MINE, YOU KNOW, IT'S [INAUDIBLE].
OR HE GIVES IT TO THE CHIEF AND THE CHIEF'S LIKE WHAT? AND IT. YEAH. THEY NEED TO SEND IT AND SEND IT TO THE RIGHT PERSON AND SEND IT TIMELY.
OH, I JUST I FELT BLINDSIDED AND NOT BY YOU, JOHN, JUST BY THE SITUATION.
AND I'M SURE GRANT DID TOO IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET AND THAT IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.
IT SHOULDN'T. IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.
BUT WHAT WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO DO? I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE AT THIS POINT, IT'S EITHER 40,000 DOLLARS NOW OR DELAY IT AND THEN END UP WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF PAYING 25,000 DOLLARS A DAY AND GOD KNOWS HOW MANY DAYS THAT COULD BE.
I MEAN, IN THIS SITUATION, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
AND SO WE NEED TO DECIDE AT THAT POINT.
SO. JOHN, IF WE DELAYED IT, CAN YOU STILL GET IT DONE IN TIME? GOD, I DON'T KNOW.
HOW LONG YOU'RE GOING TO DELAY IT? I MEAN, WE'RE. WELL, IT WOULD BE THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS WHEN HOPEFULLY IT WILL COME BACK UP. AND, YOU KNOW, I DID GO BACK OUT AND WHATEVER LENGTH THAT I SAW FOUND AND SAID, OK, YOU KNOW, IF CAN WE CLAIM DELAY FOR COVID-19? AND THE EPA SAID, WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE AN EXCUSE IF YOU WANTED TO EXTEND IT OUT WHERE THEY BUY INTO IT OR NOT. YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T COMMIT TO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN THE SAME SITUATION.
YOU KNOW THAT. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEER, WHETHER TML, YOU KNOW HOW IT GETS OUT, AS YOU SAID, WHO GETS IT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
COULD WE ASK FOR AN EXTENSION? WE CAN ASK. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET IT.
I SUSPECT THEY'LL TELL US AROUND.
THEY'LL TELL US ON JULY 1ST WHETHER WE GOT IT OR NOT.
AND BY THE WAY HERE'S YOUR FINE.
[LAUGHTER] YEAH, THAT'LL COME CERTIFIED ATTENTION, EVERYBODY.
YEAH. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CHOICE OTHER THAN APPROVE IT WITH IT, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT BRANDON IS GOING TO GO OUT AND FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO, WHETHER IT'S AN EXTENSION OR WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING, SOME OTHER OPTION THAT WE CAN HAVE AND LOWERING OUR COST OR DELAYING OR SOMETHING.
SO I THINK I AGREE WE NEED TO PASS IT, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S GOT TO BE AN EXCEPTION TO THAT, THAT BRANDON IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO US ON.
BUT IF WE PASS IT, THERE'S NO POINT IN THE EXCEPTION BECAUSE WE'LL GET IT DONE IN TIME AND
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WE'LL HAVE COMMITTED TO THE MONEY WITH MR. BIRKHOFF AND HIS FIRM.YEAH, AND BRANDON WILL BE LOOKING FOR WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW WE GO FORWARD IN THE FUTURE WITH [INAUDIBLE]. SINCE I ASSUME THESE FOLKS WILL COME BACK WITH.
YEAH. I WILL LOOK INTO HOW WE IF WE WERE NOTIFIED AND HOW WE WERE IF WE WERE, AND THEN NOW WE'RE ON NOTICE THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN IN FIVE YEARS SO WE CAN BEGIN PREPPING NOW [LAUGHTER] FOR.
YEAH, AND ONE WOULD THINK THAT IN FIVE YEARS WHERE YOU DO IT UPDATED, IT'S NOT THE FULL BLOWN FROM SCRATCH, TRYING TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT.
THE UPDATES PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD PROBLEMS AND WE DIDN'T FIX THEM.
STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOUR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OBLIGATED, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR TO DO A REPORT.
YOU, DID YOU DO IT OR YOU DIDN'T DO IT, YOU KNOW, AND EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO START SLAPPING HANDS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DO THESE THINGS.
BUT THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF REPORTS.
WE DO AN EMINENT DOMAIN REPORT EVERY YEAR.
AND THE FIRST YEAR WE DID IT, IT TOOK DAYS AND NOW IT TAKES MINUTES.
WE HAVE TO DO THE CYBERSECURITY REPORTING NOW WHERE WE HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THAT CLASS EVERY YEAR THAT I HAVE TO PUT ON FOR YOU ALL.
SO I'M READY FOR THE VIDEO AGAIN.
I'M JUST GOING TO ASK BECAUSE MAYBE I MISSED THE ANSWER.
BUT IF WE POSTPONE THIS TO THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL, DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET IT DONE? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE BRING IT BACK UP.
BUT IF WE SAY THAT WE BRING IT BACK UP THE FIRST WEEK, THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL, DOES TWO WEEKS MAKE A DIFFERENCE, DO YOU THINK, TO MAKING THIS DEADLINE? I THINK IT DOES. YOU KNOW, AS I SAY FROM GARY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY WANTING TO GET STARTED NEXT WEEK. I MEAN.
ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS DEADLINE NOW BEING IT'S A MONTH PAST? WE THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE IT.
THINK? I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT.
YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION BACK IN JANUARY, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE GET THIS PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, DO YOU ALL WANT TO DO IT OR NOT IS WHERE WE ARE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO GET MOVING.
I THINK WE MAKE THIS TODAY IF WE WAIT TWO WEEKS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WE HAVE OTHER THINGS IN THE QUEUE, YOU KNOW, TO GET DONE FOR OTHER CITIES FOR THESE.
I SUGGEST WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AND LOOK FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, MAKE A PLAN FOR WHAT WE CAN DO TO LOWER THAT COST, BUT AT THIS POINT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, JOHN HAS INDICATED HE'S LOOKED AT ALL THE STEPS THAT ARE INVOLVED.
HE'S LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE TIMING THAT'S INVOLVED.
SO, YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN REPUTABLE WITH US THUS FAR.
I SEEM, HE SEEMS TO BE REPUTABLE.
AND SO I RECOMMEND WE MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE THIS.
OK, ARE YOU MAKING THAT AS A MOTION? I AM. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WILL AND ACCEPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-662.
IS THERE A SECOND? WHERE IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD, IT'S GOING TO COST THE CITY MORE MONEY ULTIMATELY.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE RISK NOT MEETING THAT DEADLINE.
AND SO BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR IN THE FUTURE.
YEAH, OK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND BY COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ABRAHAM TO ACCEPT RESOLUTION NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH SIX SIX TWO, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-662.
OK. MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO ONE, THE ONE IS MICHAEL SLAUGHTER.
GRANT, WOULD YOU PLEASE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET FROM NOW ON, A CATEGORY FOR EPA? BECAUSE AND INCLUDING THAT, I GUESS THE WHAT IS IT THAT PERMIT THAT WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE].
WE CAN NAME IT UNFUNDED MANDATES, PROBABLY.
THIS IS WHAT CAN I SAY? THANK Y'ALL COUNCIL.
[8. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2021-663, AUTHORIZING CONTINUED PARTICIPATION WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF CITIES SERVED BY ONCOR; AND AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF SIX CENTS PER CAPITA TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO FUND REGULATORY AND LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AND ACTIVITIES RELATED TO ONCOR ELECTRIC DELIVERY COMPANY, LLC. [SHELBY]]
OH, GET MY GLASSES BACK ON.CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH SIX SIX THREE AUTHORIZING CONTINUED PARTICIPATION WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF CITIES
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SERVED BY ONCOR.AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF SIX CENTS PER CAPITA TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO FUND REGULATORY AND LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AND ACTIVITIES RELATED TO ONCOR ELECTRIC DELIVERY SYSTEM. MY NAME'S ON THIS ONE, SO I GUESS I'LL TAKE IT.
GO. THIS STEERING COMMITTEE OF CITY SERVED BY ONCOR IS A GROUP THAT WE'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF FOR.
TWO YEARS NOW. SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS, WHERE WE PAY OUR MEMBERSHIP FEE, WHICH IS SIX CENTS PER CAPITA. AND IT'S BASICALLY A LOBBYING GROUP CONSISTING OF DOZENS OF CITIES THAT NEGOTIATE WITH ONCOR WHEN THEY TRY TO DO RATE INCREASES AND THAT SORT OF THING AND USES THE POWER OF THE GROUP TO GET, YOU KNOW, BETTER, BETTER RESULTS THAN ONE MIGHT GET ON OUR OWN. AND IN THE IN THE PAST, I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN WELL WORTH THE SIX.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE GONE UP TO SIX CENTS OR IF IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SIX CENTS.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A DECREASE.
OK. I THINK IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, I THINK IT WAS SEVEN CENTS LAST YEAR.
SO IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN WORTH OUR WHILE IN THE PAST.
AND I RECOMMEND THAT WE PASS THE RESOLUTION AND REMAIN A MEMBER OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE. AND I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT THIS YEAR BECAUSE I IMAGINE SEVERAL CITIES HAVE ISSUES WITH ONCOR.
YOU CAN LOOK FOR ONCOR AND ASK FOR A RATE INCREASE THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO WINTERIZE ALL THEIR STUFF NOW.
AND YOU'LL PROBABLY GET LARGE REQUESTS FOR AN INCREASE THAT THIS COMMITTEE WILL HELP US TO MANAGE. BRANDON, WHAT IS THIS COMMITTEE GOING TO DO FOR THE CITY, PARTICULARLY BEING A MEMBER OF IT, TO TRY TO AVOID FUTURE ONCOR RELATED BLACKOUTS AND ISSUES LIKE THAT? I MEAN, EVEN CONSIDERING THAT WE ARE DOING SOMEWHAT OF A RATE INCREASE, I WANT TO SEE THAT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, ACTIVELY ADVOCATE.
MY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS COMMITTEE OR THIS [INAUDIBLE] STEERING COMMITTEE IS THAT IT'S ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY THEY WORK ON RATES.
BUT I CAN IMAGINE WITH WHAT WENT ON THIS YEAR THAT THIS IS THIS WOULD BE THE TYPE OF GROUP THAT WE COULD LOBBY TO HELP US IN OTHER AREAS.
BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT STUFF RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE GIVING US UPDATES ON CERTAIN THINGS.
I KNOW DURING RIGHT AFTER THE STORM, I EMAILED THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND I GOT A RESPONSE BACK WITHIN TWENTY, THIRTY MINUTES OF SOME ANSWERS THAT I NEEDED WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON AT ONCOR. SO THEY'RE VERY APPRIZED OF WHAT TAKES PLACE.
YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE ONCOR WAS VIRTUALLY MIA FOR US IN THIS LAST EVENT.
SO, I MEAN, CONSIDERING THAT WE'RE VOTING ON THIS THIS KIND OF AN INCREASE, I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO BE EVEN MORE ACTIVELY INVOLVED.
AND LIKE LUKE SAID, I THINK IT IS NOT AN INCREASE.
IT'S THIS IS OUR YEARLY WE'VE PAID THIS EVERY YEAR.
I THINK IT WENT DOWN. IT MAY HAVE GONE DOWN THIS YEAR.
I CAN'T REMEMBER, THOUGH I COULD HAVE SWORE SEVEN CENTS LAST YEAR, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
I JUST WANT THEM TO BE I WANT THEM TO BE AN ADVOCATE.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A BIG CITY FOR THEM.
BUT SIMILARLY SIZED. YOU'VE GOT IRVING, FORT WORTH, YOU'VE GOT LARGE CITIES IN THIS.
SO EVERYONE'S PULLING TOGETHER FOR THIS AND THEY ARE KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH ERCOT? ARE THEY? I HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE HEARINGS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THIS POINT.
I KNOW THERE'S ONE PUC BOARD MEMBER LEFT.
SO THIS IS THIS IS THE GROUP THAT WILL HANDLE US. YEAH, HOPEFULLY THEY WILL JOIN US WITH THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS AND CAUSE ONCOR TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IN SOME MANNER.
THE STEERING COMMITTEE IS RUN BY, FOR WANT OF A BETTER TERM, ATTORNEYS.
AND THERE'S A LARGE LAW FIRM IN AUSTIN THAT DOES THE LEGAL HEAVY LIFTING FOR THE STEERING COMMITTEE. AND THEN WE HAVE WE HAVE A VOICE ON THE COMMITTEE.
WE SHOW UP. IT'S A SMALL ENOUGH GROUP IF WE SHOW UP TO MEETINGS AND SPEAK UP THEN THEY'LL LISTEN TO US EVEN THOUGH OUR ASSESSMENT'S ONLY THREE HUNDRED AND TEN DOLLARS.
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IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY.YOU KNOW, I MEAN, 310 IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS IS NOT THAT MUCH.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE PRINCIPLE OF IT IS WE HAVE THESE COMMITTEES.
AND IN AN EVENT LIKE WHAT WE JUST HAD, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY IS, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATED FOR BY THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE ARE A MEMBER OF IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION, IF THERE IS ON.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-663 AUTHORIZING CONTINUED PARTICIPATION OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF CITY SERVED BY ONCOR AND AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF SIX CENTS PER CAPITA TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO FUND REGULATORY LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AND ACTIVITIES RELATED TO ONCOR ELECTRIC DELIVERY COMPANY.
OK, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-663.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH SIX SIX THREE AUTHORIZING CONTINUED PARTICIPATION WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF THE CITY SERVED BY ONCOR AND AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF SIX CENTS PER CAPITA TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO FUND THE REGULATORY AND LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AND ACTIVITIES RELATED TO ONCOR ELECTRIC DELIVERY COMPANY.
OK, ANY FURTHER THIS DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I WILL CALL FOR YOUR VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH SIX SIX THREE.
THANK YOU. OK, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON THE
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FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OTHERWISE. I HAVE TWO.ONE, COULD WE MAYBE PUT SOMETHING ON THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS TO YET FOR ANNUALLY TO GO OVER NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE ISSUES? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED OR HOW YOU WOULD PULL THAT INFORMATION, BUT JUST SO THAT WE DON'T GET SURPRISED ON THESE THINGS AGAIN.
YEAH. JUST SO YOU KNOW, LUKE PRETTY MUCH STAYS ON TOP OF THE STATE LEGISLATIVE ISSUES AND BRINGS THOSE TO US AS NEED BE, ALTHOUGH ANYBODY IS WELCOME TO DO SO.
BUT NATIONALLY, IT'S WE DON'T HAVE.
NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES DOES SOMETHING [INAUDIBLE] BECOME A MEMBER OF THEM AND.
NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] IS ANYBODY FAMILIAR WITH THEM? YEAH, THEY DO STUFF LIKE THAT.
THEY FOCUS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND GIVE US UPDATES ON THAT.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN I CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE.
DID YOU FEEL THAT IT WAS HELPFUL? YES. OK, LIKE YOU SAID, VERY SIMILAR TO TML AND I THINK TML WAS VERY HELPFUL.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, I DO SEE THAT YOU'VE GOT THE THE FACILITY AS AN ONGOING ITEM, BUT I'D LIKE TO REQUEST OR ASK IF WE CAN MAYBE SET A DATE FOR THE NEXT FACILITY MEETING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. OK, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME.
IT'S WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL THE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER, HAVING THIS FREEZE AND EVERYTHING THAT WENT ON WITH THAT.
ALL THAT HAPPENED, WE GOT BEHIND AND WE'RE GETTING CAUGHT UP.
I DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE WAY DOWN IN, YOU KNOW, I'VE ASKED LUKE TO GET ON IT, I'VE ASKED THE REST OF THE STAFF TO GET ON IT.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT IT WILL BE FAIRLY QUICK.
WE WILL CERTAINLY LET EVERYBODY KNOW.
IT'S JUST IT'S REAL HARD TO IS TO GENERATE DOCUMENTS AND INFORMATION WHEN YOU HAVE NO POWER. NO LIGHT, NO HEAT.
WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING BACK TO NORMAL.
AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL GET GOING SOON BECAUSE I'M JUST LIKE THE REST OF Y'ALL.
THANK YOU. OK, AND IF ANYBODY COMES UP WITH ANYTHING ELSE THEY'D LIKE PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ADD IT ON.
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GOT IT.NEXT IS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
I HAD A REQUEST RECENTLY ABOUT THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND HER A WHILE UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS A CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT.
CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT FOR 2551 TO GO ACROSS PARKER ROAD BESIDES VICTORY CHURCH AND THEN MERGE BACK INTO [INAUDIBLE].
WELL, THAT HAS NOT GONE AWAY, ALTHOUGH THE NEIGHBORS THAT THAT GOES THROUGH WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO. BUT THAT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
BUT THE QUESTION WAS SINCE THERE WITH SOME FLAGS THAT WENT OUT IN THAT AREA.
WHAT'S GOING ON? AND SO I CONTACTED CLARENCE [INAUDIBLE], THAT'S THE HEAD OF ENGINEERING FOR TXDOT, AND I'LL JUST READ YOU HIS MESSAGE.
THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE ALIGNMENT OF THE EXTENSION OF FFM 2551 AT PARKER ROAD BY THE CHURCH. I KNOW THAT TXDOT AND NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME ISSUES, BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT TXDOT WAS BEGINNING RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION, THE FLAGS THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT.
I'LL CHECK AND FIND THE STATUS AND GET BACK TO YOU.
HE HASN'T GOTTEN BACK TO ME YET. BUT THAT SAYS THAT THEY'RE NOT ABOUT TO START PLOWING UP THE GROUND. THEY'RE NOT ABOUT TO START DIGGING UP THE GROUND.
IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A WAYS OFF.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S HISTORY AND IT WILL GO AWAY.
IT'LL STILL HAPPEN. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE A WE DON'T SAY IT, GARY MACHADO DOESN'T HAVE A CHOICE IN SAYING WHEN THAT'S GOING TO START.
THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS.
I KNOW, WE'VE MET WITH STEVE SOLOMON AND THEM, AND THEY JUST GOT THEIR ACQUISITION TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH TXDOT.
MIC] HAVE THEY? IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DETENTION FACILITY.
YOU'LL BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF [INAUDIBLE] THERE.
THAT FIELD THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF HERE IN WELL, IT'S A DRAINAGE WAY.
AND THEY'RE PUTTING MORE DETENTION IN THERE TO HANDLE.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET CURTIS REALIGNED.
THE WAY THEY HAVE IT COMING IN, BECAUSE IT MAKES NO SENSE YES. BUT THE WAY THEY HAVE IT NOW, YOU'VE GOT A VISION TRIANGLE ISSUE.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING BACK LIKE THIS TO SEE IF YOUR ANYONE IS COMING DOWN, 2551.
YEAH. IT'S STILL COMING THROUGH SOUTH RIDGE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE IT'S GOING TO TIE IN AT YEAH. WHERE THAT NEW EXCHANGE IS GOING TO TIE IN.
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PROBABLY THE TRAFFIC WARRANTS WILL BE THERE FOR IT, JUST LIKE PARKER AND [INAUDIBLE].LAST TIME I TALKED TO TXDOT ABOUT A LIGHT ON [INAUDIBLE], THEY HAD THEY SAID, YES, THEY WERE GOING TO PUT ONE THERE, BUT THEY WEREN'T SURE WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BE AT ANDOVER OR AT CURTIS OR WHERE OR WHEN.
BUT YES, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT THERE.
MIC] IT'S THREE, THREE IS WHAT. I BELIEVE IT IS.
YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXTENSION OF THAT.
YEAH. JUST GOING TO BE LIKE [INAUDIBLE] AND ANGEL PARKWAY.
YEAH. OK, ANYTHING ELSE, MAYOR PRO TEM? NO. THAT'S IT FOR NOW. OK, LEWIS LANE? THAT IS CURRENTLY DELAYED BECAUSE OF WEATHER.
THEY HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING ITEMS ON THERE.
WE'RE BEATEN UP ON LABOR DAY YES, WE ARE. WE YEAH. THEY STILL HAVEN'T GOT THE CULVERTS IN UNDER WHERE LEWIS AROUND THERE BY THE BEND.
THEY STILL HAVE GOT THOSE CULVERTS IN OR THE HEAD WALLS IN.
THEY'VE STILL GOT TO DO THAT BEFORE THEY CAN GET IN THERE.
THAT CONTRACTOR HAS GOT TO DO IT BEFORE REYNOLDS PAVING CAN COME IN THERE AND FINISH THE REST OF THE ROADWAY.
I DON'T BELIEVE TWO WEEKS AT THIS POINT.
I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE LONGER THAN THAT.
SO ONCE WE FIGURE ONCE WE GET A DEFINITE ANSWER, WE'LL LET EVERYONE KNOW.
WHO ARE YOU WAITING ON AN ANSWER FROM? THE CONTRACTORS WHEN THEY CAN GET IN.
WE HAVE TO SEE IF CONTRACTORS SHOW UP ON THE JOB. YEAH, IT'S JUST THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS NOW, SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THEM TO INSTALL THE CULVERTS AND PUT THE HEAD WALLS UP.
DOES THEIR CONTRACT, HAVE A TIME FRAME IN IT? NO, WE COULD PUT PRESSURE ON THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE WANTING APPROVAL OF A SUBDIVISION RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE A, PUT A LITTLE PRESSURE ALONG WITH THAT.
PUMP STATION IS COMING ALONG BEAUTIFULLY. YAY, SOMETHING.
FINALLY GOT SOME COMMENTS BACK FROM NORTH TEXAS TODAY.
AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO BRING SOME WHATCHAMACALLIT BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO THAT PROJECT.
SOME A COUPLE OF CHANGE ORDERS TO THAT BECAUSE NORTH TEXAS HAS CHANGED THEIR MIND ON SOME THINGS THAT THEY WANT NOW.
SO WILL THE PUMP STATION HAVE A GENERATOR? I BELIEVE IT'S, YEAH.
DIESEL. LIKE JOHN WAS SAYING, THESE ARE THE MOST EFFICIENT ONES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ORDERED TO IN AN EMERGENCY LIKE WE JUST HAD, FIND FUEL AND GET INTO IT AND GET IN.
IT'S MORE RELIABLE THAN PROPANE AND NATURAL GAS.
NATURAL GAS WAS A PROBLEM TOO YEAH. A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO USE NATURAL GAS.
YEAH, THEY WERE THERE WAS LINES FROZEN.
OK, BUT THE PUMP STATION IS ON TIME AND.
PUMP STATION IS ON SCHEDULE, ON TRACK.
WE ARE [INAUDIBLE] WORKING ON THE ACTUAL PUMP HOUSE NOW AND TRYING TO WORK ON [INAUDIBLE] STUFF, AND WE'RE WAITING ON THEM TO START THE WORK.
WE'RE STILL SCHEDULED WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THE WATER LINE THAT GO ACROSS THE ROAD IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ABOUT TWO WEEKS [INAUDIBLE], I BELIEVE THAT'S GOOD.
OK, LET'S MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO DUBLIN ROAD.
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I DON'T KNOW IF I'D GO THAT FAR.THE CONTRACTORS ARE FINALLY ABLE TO GET DUBLIN ROAD DONE.
DUBLIN ROAD IS COMPLETE AND WE'VE GOT OK, SO ALL OF DUBLIN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PAST TO STATE LANE, NORTH AND SOUTH DUBLIN? RIGHT. YEAH.
RIGHT IN FRONT OF CREEK SIDE IS THE LAST PATCH. OK.
DOWN THERE. GARY, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THOSE PATCHES ARE THAT'S GOING TO LAST BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE BECAUSE OF THE THROUGH TRAFFIC, IT JUST KEEPS? THOSE PATCHES WERE DONE WITH A DIFFERENT METHOD.
THEY SHOULD OUTLAST THE REST OF THE ROADWAY.
WHICH IS HOW LONG? NOT VERY LONG.
THE ROADWAY IS NOT THE LAST THAT LONG, BUT THE PATCHES I WAS WORRIED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE.
THE PATCHES ARE GOOD FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS ON PATCHES, PROBABLY A LOT LESS WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING BOUT THE ROAD.
SO IS IT IS IT AN OPTION TO JUST MAKE IT THROUGH TRAFFIC ONLY SO WE CAN TRY TO SOMEWHAT MITIGATE SOME OF THE EFFECTS OF, LIKE THE BIG TRUCKS GOING THROUGH THERE? IT'S JUST IT'S HARD TO ENFORCE BECAUSE AN OFFICER WOULD HAVE TO SEE SOMEONE GO IN AND THEN EXIT.
AND OUR PROBLEM RIGHT NOW IS THE CONSTRUCTION.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT HOUSES BEING BUILT.
WE'VE GOT ONE THAT WAS JUST DEMOED, LARGE EQUIPMENT COMING UP AND DOWN.
WE CAN'T STOP IT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
BUT THE ROAD IS A MILLION TIMES BETTER TODAY THAN IT WAS.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHAT IT WILL BE A YEAR FROM NOW, BUT TODAY IT'S A MILLION TIMES BETTER. SO. WE DID THE BEST WE COULD WITH THE MONEY WE HAD.
YEAH. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT IT'S NOT CRUMBLING WHEN WE DRIVE ON IT.
SO I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH THAT STANCE.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, IN NORTH DUBLIN, ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A NEW ROAD.
I THINK THEY ONLY LEFT A LITTLE BIT OF THE ORIGINAL, BY THE TIME THEY WERE DONE ANYWAY.
REALLY HARD TO PATCH BECAUSE WHEN YOU TRY TO TAKE THE OLD STUFF OUT, IT JUST KEEPS FALLING THE WAY YOU HAVE TO KEEP GOING.
LINDA NELSON MADE A SUGGESTION THAT WHAT WE DO ON DUBLIN ROAD IS, IS TO ERECT A SIGN THAT SAYS NO THROUGH TRAFFIC.
BRANDON HAS THAT INFORMATION IS SUPPOSED TO GET WITH US TO LET US KNOW LEGALLY WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE NOT CAN DO, AND WHAT THE EFFECT MIGHT BE, BECAUSE BASICALLY IT WOULD BE AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
BUT JUST THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A SIGN UP I AGREE. WE DID DISCUSS THAT AND WE CAN PUT ONE UP.
AND BUT IS THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU PUT A SIGN UP, A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL KNOW WILL ACTUALLY OBEY THE SIGN AND DO WHAT IT SAYS.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE CHANGE UP SIGNAGE ON THE ROAD DURING REPAIRS AND ACTUALLY PUT A CLOSED TO THROUGH TRAFFIC.
AND IT DID CUT DOWN A LOT OF TRAFFIC WHILE THEY WERE WORKING ON IT BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY HARD TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY AND SO PUTTING THAT SIGN UP DID HELP, IT CUT BACK ON TRAFFIC AND I THINK WE ASKED TRASH COMPANY TO NOT USE IT AS A CUT THROUGH AND THAT HELPED TO KEEP THE, TO KEEP THE BIG TRASH TRUCKS OFF OF THE NEW STUFF.
AMAZON. YEAH, AMAZON. YEAH, SO IT'S LEAH'S PROBLEM THAT CAUSES DUBLIN, HER ADDICTION.
OH, WELL. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD TO A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.
YEAH, WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
THE NO THROUGH TRAFFIC SIGNS FOR DUBLIN ROAD.
CHIEF, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO VISITING ON THAT WITH MICHAEL AND MYSELF TO SEE WHAT HOW IT WOULD MIGHT AFFECT YOUR DEPARTMENT? AND OF COURSE, CINDY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US.
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OH, OK.WE HAVE SOME ACCEPTANCE OF FOOD DONATIONS FOR THE POLICE, FIRE AND CITY STAFF.
FOR THE RECORD, WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE RECEIVED A DONATION FROM CAROL.
WELL, WELL MS. I KNOW HOW TO SAY IT.
WHO DONATED 35 DOLLARS AND SNACKS.
THE CLARK FAMILY DONATED SNACKS, ESTIMATED VALUE OF FIFTY, FIFTY DOLLARS.
SAM AND APRIL [INAUDIBLE] DONATED GATORADE, COFFEE AND SNACKS ESTIMATED AT 30 DOLLARS.
AND JILL AND STEVE [INAUDIBLE] DONATED STARBUCKS COFFEE ESTIMATED AT TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS.
WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE DONATIONS, HOWEVER, SOON WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP A DONATION FOR A TREADMILL, FOR THE SNACKS THAT EVERYBODY IS EATING.
ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, WE WILL NOW RECESS TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY
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CONTAINED IN, A GOVERNMENT CODE NUMBER 551.074 PERSONNEL TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE.B GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0711 CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY CONCERNING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION.
C GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0712 CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF THE PROFESSIONAL CODE OF CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
WE ARE RECONVENING THE REGULAR MEETING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 10:11.
IS THERE ANY ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? NONE YOUR HONOR.
HEARING NONE. THE MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED AT 10:12 P.M..
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