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[CALL TO ORDER]
I AM NOW CALLING THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER ON JANUARY 12, 2021, AT 7:00 P.M. AT THIS TIME, MR. OLSON, DO WE HAVE A SUPER QUORUM? YES, MADAM MAYOR, WE DO. OK, THANK YOU, SIR.AT THIS TIME, LET'S DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE TEXAS PLEDGE.
CINDY MEYER, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD THE AMERICAN PLEDGE? AND DIANA ABRAHAM, WOULD YOU LEAD THE TEXAS.
OK, NEXT, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
I HAVE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT FROM BILLY BARRON, WHICH WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING. WE NO LONGER WILL READ THESE INTO THE RECORD.THEY WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE RECORDS WITH THE MINUTES.
HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MR. CORDINA. THANK YOU, MAYOR, I'M GLAD TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
THIS IS JOE CORDINA, LIKE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, 4302 BOULDER DRIVE, LOVELY CITY OF PARKER, AND WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MOST RECENT MEETING THAT WE HAD, THE COMMUNITY MEETING JUST FOR A FEW MOMENTS.
IT WAS A VERY GOOD EYE OPENING KIND OF MEETING.
THANK YOU. IS THIS BETTER? I'LL BET IT IS. IS THAT BETTER? OK, IT WAS A TO ME, IT WAS IT WAS A WELL WORTHWHILE WELL PUT ON THE THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS A FACILITATOR.
SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING AND SHE ACHIEVED, I THINK, SOME REMARKABLE PROGRESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I THINK IS KIND OF IMPORTANT TO NOTE, AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I SAW AFTERWARDS, IT WAS THAT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SPOKE IN FAVOR OF HAVING THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED WAS ALMOST 100 PERCENT.
I MEAN, I WAS LIKE, WOW, THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING.
SOMEBODY ELSE MADE A COMMENT TO ME ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, DID YOU REALIZE THAT ALMOST EVERYONE SAID THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT? I SAID YOU KNOW WITH A COMMITTEE OF SOME SORT.
AND I SAID, WELL, THAT'S GOOD, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT COMES OUT OF THIS MEETING, IS THAT WE MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SKILLS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I WANTED TO JUST LET YOU KNOW I ENDORSED THAT MYSELF.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S JUST ACCLIMATION THAT THAT WHAT I DID MOST OF THE PEOPLE, MANY OF THEM THAT SPOKE, I DID NOT KNOW I HAD NOT EVER SPOKEN TO THOSE PEOPLE IN MY LIFE.
SO TO ME, THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING TO HEAR THEM MAKE THOSE COMMENTS UNSOLICITED.
AND IF THEY TALKED TO SOMEBODY ELSE, I DON'T KNOW.
IT WAS A GOOD PROGRAM. AND I CONGRATULATE YOU ON WHAT YOU DID.
OK, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? THAT'S THE ONLY CARD I HAVE.
WOW, YOU'VE INTIMIDATED HIM, JOE.
OK, NEXT, I HAVE A FEW ITEMS OF INTEREST.
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE WILL MEET TOMORROW AT SIX P.M.THEY ARE GOING TO BE MEETING VIRTUALLY THE ACCESS CODES AND EVERYTHING ON HOW TO DO THAT IS ON THE PARKER WEBSITE.
THE PARKS AND REC MEETS EVERY SECOND WEDNESDAY AT SIX P.M.
OF EVERY MONTH. SO JUST KNOW THAT AND YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, TO THE CITY CALENDAR AND GET ALL THE INFORMATION, THE AGENDA ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED IN THEIR MEETING. ALSO TOMORROW IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MEETING.
ALSO AT SIX P.M., HOWEVER, IS GOING TO BE IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL.
IS THAT RIGHT, MICHAEL? BECAUSE YOU'RE LEADING THAT MEETING OK? YEAH. OK, WELL, OK. OK. AND JUST SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MICHAEL, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE STILL SEEKING MEMBERS FOR THE COMP PLAN COMMITTEE.
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SO IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THAT, PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH MR. SLAUGHTER.OK. OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST IS JANUARY 13TH.
TOMORROW IS THE FIRST DAY TO FILE FOR OFFICE IF YOU WISH TO RUN.
THERE ARE THREE COUNCIL MEMBER SEATS UP FOR ELECTION.
SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE GET WITH PATTI.
SHE IS OUR ELECTION OFFICIAL AND SHE HAS THE PACKETS AND CAN GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION THAN YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
THE NEXT IT IS MY PLEASURE AND HONOR TO TALK ABOUT JUSTIN MILLER.
MR. MILLER, OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS DECEMBER EIGHT, WE AS A COUNCIL ELECTED TO APPOINT MR. MILLER AT THAT TIME TO BE OUR ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF.
UNFORTUNATELY, HE WAS WORKING AT HIS REGULAR JOB THEN AT FAIRVIEW SO HE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE. SO I ASKED IF HE WOULD COME TONIGHT SO WE COULD INTRODUCE HIM TO EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS JUSTIN AND TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM.
I'M JUST REALLY PROUD OF JUSTIN.
I REMEMBER WHEN HE DROVE UP AND LIKE 2005, I THINK IT WAS HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR, WHAT, 15 YEARS, IS THAT RIGHT? AND DURING THAT TIME, HE HAS RECEIVED HIS ASSOCIATES DEGREE IN FIRE SCIENCE.
HE'S WORKING ON HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
HE IS ALSO WORKING FULL TIME FOR THE CITY OF FAIRVIEW AS A CAPTAIN IN THEIR FIRE DEPARTMENT. CORRECT. AND HE HAS NOW BEEN APPOINTED TO OUR ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF AND MR. SHEFF. CHIEF SHEFF, I THINK YOU HAVE SOME WORDS TO SAY.
CHIEF MILLER JOINED US IN 2005, AS YOU MAY HAVE INDICATED.
AND I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW FAST 15 YEARS, 15 YEARS HAS GONE.
I SAID I'D BE BRIEF. SO AS FOLLOWS, JUSTIN SHOWN THE CITY OF PARKER AND THE FIREMAN AT PARKER, THE OFFICERS OF PARKER FIRE DEPARTMENT, HIS DEDICATION TO OUR CITY, BOTH AS A VOLUNTEER AND NOW AS A PAID MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT.
SECOND, HE HAS ALL OF THE CREDENTIALS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO FILL THE ROLE OF ASSISTANT CHIEF. AND I AM JUST VERY PLEASED THAT COUNCIL HAS TAKEN THE ACTION THEY HAVE TO APPOINT AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ASSISTANT CHIEF.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THE MEETING BACK OVER TO THE MAYOR.
OH, SURE. WE'RE GOING TO I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO PIN THE BADGE ON.
GOOD. YOU'LL NEED TO GET ONE IN A MINUTE.
YEAH, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PINNING CEREMONY AND I BELIEVE HIS WIFE MEGAN IS GOING TO BE THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO PIN THE BADGE ON HIM.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BADGE PINNING CEREMONY WITH MRS. MILLER DOING THE HONORS.
THIS IS A PICTURE YOU'LL NEED.
NOW, DID YOU GET A PICTURE, CINDY? NO.
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EVERYTHING. ARE YOU SURE.BEAR WITH ME, I GOT SO EXCITED, ALL MY PAPERS GOT MESSED UP.
THERE WE GO. OK, NEXT WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THERE ARE FOUR THINGS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, THE MONTHLY REPORTS.IS THERE ANYONE THAT NEEDS ANYTHING PULLED OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES THE AND THE REPORTS AS WELL. OK, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL MOVE TO SECOND. OK, WE HAVE A SECOND.
ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO NOTICE ON THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 4TH, THE WRITTEN ONES IN YOUR PACKET SHOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER WAS PRESENT.
THAT HAS BEEN CORRECTED BECAUSE ON JANUARY 4TH YOU WERE NOT WITH US.
THAT WAS MONDAY. THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WE HAD.
WITH SHIRLEY. OH, AND IT SHOWS THAT YOU'RE HERE AND I KNOW YOU WERE IN SPIRIT, OK, BUT ANYWAY THAT CORRECTION HAS BEEN MADE JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, OK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOT HEARING ANY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THANK YOU. NEXT, WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION
[5. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. 2021-658 (BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEMBERSHIP SELECTION – REPEALING RES. NO. 2019-598), FOR REVIEW AND POSSIBLE CHANGES. [PETTLE]]
ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-658 BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERSHIP SELECTION.REPEALING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2109-598FOR REVIEW AND POSSIBLE CHANGES.
THE CHANGES ARE UNDER SECTION ONE, WE WERE GOING TO NUMBER THE ITEMS IN ORDER THAT THEY ARE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR EXISTING BOARD AND COMMISSION, ALTERNATES IS ONE WHERE CITIZENS OF PARKER WHO ARE NOT YET ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION WOULD BE FOUR BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ORDER THAT WE HAD DECIDED THAT THEY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
AND I DIDN'T I'M SORRY MADAM MAYOR, I DIDN'T MAKE THAT CHANGE.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT LEAVING IT.
THAT'S THE REASON I DIDN'T MAKE THE CHANGE. OK. THE OTHER THING IS ON SECTION FOUR, THE CHANGES ARE OFFICER APPOINTMENT PROCESS.
OFFICERS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SHALL BE BY NOMINATION AND MAJORITY VOTE BY A BOARD OR COMMISSION MEMBERS RATHER THAN BY COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, EACH EACH BOARD OR COMMISSION SHOULD MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION ON THAT.
I'VE READ AND REREAD THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES.
AND THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THAT HAD TO DO WITH HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU MISS A MEETING AND STILL BE PART OF THE COMMISSION? AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT NOT PUTTING THAT IN HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE MADE A DECISION ON WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT WAS.
AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR SOME COMMENTS ON THAT.
WE CAN FOLLOW THE SAME THING, WHICH IS STATE LAW, WHICH IS WHAT EFFECTS COUNCIL? IF YOU MISS THREE MEETINGS WITHOUT AN EXCUSED ABSENCES, I GUESS IS WHAT IT IS YOU ARE REMOVED FROM COUNCIL.
AND THAT'S WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION.
FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEBODY COULD COME AND SAY, I NEED TO MISS THREE MEETINGS BECAUSE I'M GOING
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TO BE OUT OF SURGERY FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME OR TAKE A TOUR AROUND THE WORLD OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WHATEVER IT IS WE DECIDE. AND DO WE WANT TO DECIDE THAT OR DO WE WANT TO LET EACH BOARD AND COMMISSION DECIDE IT FOR THEMSELVES? MADAM MAYOR I'M IN FAVOR OF PUTTING THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON THE BOARDS TO DETERMINE THE RULES AND AND POLICIES THAT THEY HAVE FOR THAT INSTEAD OF COUNCIL DICTATING THAT.THAT'S JUST THAT'S MY OPINION ON THAT.
AND MADAM MAYOR, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ABRAHAM BECAUSE AS I THINK OF THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS, I THINK OF PARKS AND REC VERY DIFFERENT THAN PLANNING AND ZONING.
AND SO THERE MAY NEED TO BE DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOOKING AT THE CRITICALNESS OF BEING IN A MEETING VERSUS, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND REC MAY HAVE OTHER ISSUES THAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING.
SO, YEAH, I ALSO THINK THAT IN SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD ESTABLISH A A CLEAR POLICY AS TO HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS ABSENTEEISM IN THERE, SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE HAVING MULTIPLE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WE'VE SELECTED AND THEN THEY DON'T SHOW UP HALF WAY THROUGH THE YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A DISSERVICE FOR THE COMMITTEE AND THAT'S A DISSERVICE ULTIMATELY FOR THE CITY. OK, BRANDON, CAN WE AS A COUNCIL REQUIRE EACH BOARD OR COMMISSION TO DEVELOP THOSE AND TURN THEIR WRITTEN POLICY INTO THE COUNCIL FOR US TO APPROVE? YES, YOU CAN. IF AND WHEN SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION, IF THEY WOULD JUST ADD THAT DIRECTION.
I CAN ADD THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO BRING IT BACK.
OK. WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT? OK, SO LET ME BE CLEAR HERE.
EACH BOARD OR COMMISSION WILL HAVE DIFFERENT CRITERIA.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE SAYING.
BUT THAT CRITERIA WILL BE ESTABLISHED AND PRESENTED.
IT WON'T BE A SITUATION BY SITUATION.
NO, IT WAS JUST BOARD OF ADJUST, ZBA MAY BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM PARKS AND REC OR PARKS AND REC MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM P&Z EACH ONE WILL BE REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH THEIR RULES AND TO PROVIDE THEM TO US SO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE RULES ARE AND THAT WE CAN HAVE BRANDON CHECK THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE LEGALLY ACCEPTABLE.
OK, MADAM MAYOR, ON YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT SECTION ONE, I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF NUMBERING THESE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, YOU COULD END UP WITH A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATE WHO MAYBE HAS NOT BEEN VERY INVOLVED AND YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO APPLY TO SAID BOARD, WHO HAS BEEN ON SUBCOMMITTEES AND WILLING TO BE INVOLVED.
OR YOU MIGHT HAVE A SITUATION WHERE AN ALTERNATE DOESN'T WANT IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK THAT THE IDEAS OF PUTTING THEM BINDING WHO WE CAN SELECT FROM IN THAT ORDER, I DON'T KNOW THAT I NECESSARILY AGREE WITH BY NUMBERING ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR AS OPPOSED TO ALLOWING US JUST A.
I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IF YOU'LL READ IT VERY CAREFULLY, IT SAYS CANDIDATES MAY BE CONSIDERED SO IN THE SITUATION THAT ALTERNATE GETS CONSIDERED AND IS NOT DECIDED BY THAT BOARD OR COMMISSION TO MOVE THAT PERSON UP FOR THE VERY REASON YOU SAY.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO NUMBER THEM THAT'S FINE.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING BE SURE YOU THAT'S JUST HOW YOU THEY'RE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, AN ALTERNATE HAS BEEN THERE, GETS FIRST CONSIDERATION.
DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ACCEPTED.
IT JUST MEANS THEY GET CONSIDERED OVER SOMEBODY THAT JUST DROVE UP YESTERDAY.
THIS IS YOUR ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION.
WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO, FOLKS? HELLO AM I HERE BY MYSELF.
I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THE NUMBERING IS CRITICAL.
I THINK THE BULLETS AND THE CONSIDERATION IS GOOD.
I'M CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE WILL THINK THAT IF I'M SITTING HERE, I'M THE NUMBER ONE CATEGORY. YEAH.
I SHOULD BE SELECTED OVER SOMEBODY THAT YEAH MAYBE WE FEEL WOULD BE A BETTER CANDIDATE.
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WE HAD THE EXACT OPPOSITE COME UP THIS THIS PAST TIME.SO, YEAH, THAT'S WHY I CAN GO EITHER WAY.
IT'S JUST I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS.
LIKE THE IDEA OF NUMBERING THEM PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CRITERIA AT LEAST TO START WITH, RATHER THAN GETTING A LIST OF NAMES AND AND, YOU KNOW, PICKING FROM PEOPLE AT LARGE I GUESS.
I FIND THIS TO BE MORE HELPFUL.
SO, YEAH. WELL, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE AND I'M PLEASED TO SAY I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS HAS EVER OCCURRED IN PARKER, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE WHERE SOMEBODY COMES UP AND THEY'RE WELL KNOWN TO THE MEMBERS OF A BOARD OR COMMISSION.
AND SO THEY ALL SAY, OH, LOOK, SO-AND-SO IS HERE, LET'S APPOINT THEM.
AND THEY TAKE THIS PERSON WHO JUST DROVE UP OVER SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN THERE WORKING HARD AND SERVING. THAT WOULD BOTHER ME IF IT GOT TO BE A POPULARITY CONTEST.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT OR THAT'S FAIR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST WAY IS.
LIKE I SAID, I'M REAL PLEASED THAT PARKER HAS NEVER HAD THAT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
DO YOU EVER HAVE THAT JOE? OK, SO BUT I DO THINK PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW.
BUT SO IS JUST WHAT WHAT DOES EVERYBODY WANT TO DO? YOU'RE BEING QUIET OVER THERE ED.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THE LEADER OF THE COMMITTEE.
I THINK THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF HAVING INPUT AS TO WHO IT'S GOING TO BE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
SO I DON'T AS I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE NUMBERED OR NOT, AS LONG AS WE DON'T GET AWAY FROM THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LEADER OF THE GROUP TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION, YEAH.
I'D HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT, TOO.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MORE RESPONSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE OVERSIGHT OF SELECTION OF THE INDIVIDUALS TO THE ACTUAL COMMITTEE AND THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, AS LONG AS WE'VE ESTABLISHED THE BASELINE OF THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AND THAT THEY THAT THEY MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE, ET CETERA.
YEAH. CAN WE HAVE BOTH? I MEAN, BOTH BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A QUITE INSIGHTFUL AS TO WHETHER THE COMMISSION OR BOARD MADE THE DECISION, BUT THEIR DECISION SHOULD BE BASED ON THIS CRITERIA, OR AT LEAST THIS CRITERIA WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY MAKE THE DECISION. SO IT CAN BE BOTH.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER.
YEAH, WELL, THE CRITERIA CAN BE BASED ON ATTENDANCE, INVOLVEMENT, ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS. BUT IT IS A DECISION BY THE COMMITTEE LEADER.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT PART OF IT.
WELL, AND THAT'S WHERE IT IS CONSIDERED FROM, YOU KNOW, AND TO ME, THAT LEAVES IT UP TO THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.
THEY KNOW WHO'S BEEN THERE, WHO HASN'T BEEN THERE OR WHO'S JUST NOW APPLYING AND SHOULD BE APPOINTED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOR THEM TO DECIDE OR RECOMMEND TO US.
SO IT'S JUST HOW YOU WANT TO WORD THIS.
YEAH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF LEAVING IT UP TO THE COMMISSION, AND I'M OK WITH LEAVING THE GUIDELINES NUMBERED FOR THE COMMISSION TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION SO THAT WE HAVE THEIR INPUT AS WELL. OK, WELL THEN I'D TAKE A MOTION BEFORE ANYBODY CAN WORD IT OR DO WE WANT BRANDON TO WRITE IT UP AND BRING IT BACK TO US WHEN IT'S ALL WRITTEN UP AND PRETTY.
I'M FINE WITH THAT, I CAN HAVE IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I'M OK WITH THE INPUT THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT.
SO ARE WE GOING TO TABLE THIS OR WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS? IT JUST MEANS THAT HE WILL WRITE UP WHAT WE SAID AND BRING US BACK THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR US TO VOTE ON.
OR I MEAN, WE CAN VOTE ON IT NOW.
LET'S BRING IT BACK AND COMPLETE, OK.
AND IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK NEXT WEEK.
THE 19TH OK. OK, OK, THANK YOU.
AND THE NEXT ITEM, NUMBER SIX, CONSIDERATION AND OR APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ACCEPTING
[6. CONSIDERATION AND/OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON ACCEPTING DONATION(S) FROM VARIOUS ENTITIES FOR THE PARKER PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION’S HOLIDAZE 2020. [PETTLE/TURRENTINE]]
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DONATIONS FROM VARIOUS ENTITIES FOR THE PARKERS PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION HOLIDAYS 2020 SOME OF THESE WE HAVE ALREADY READ AND TAKEN INTO THE RECORD THE LAST TIME, SO I'M ONLY GOING TO GO INTO THOSE THAT ARE NEW OR DIFFERENT.AND MICHAEL, I THINK YOU WERE PROBABLY MOST NEAR AND DEAR ON THIS, IF I SCREW IT UP TELL ME.
THE DONATIONS ARE FROM SOUTHFORK RANCH.
YOU LOANED US THEIR TABLES, CHAIRS AND LABOR OF WORTH SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS.
PIER BURGESS. THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.
IT'S A TWO HUNDRED DOLLAR DONATION.
MATT BOGGS, THE ENTERTAINER, WAS FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR HIS TIME.
KIMBERLY HENSHAW WAS CANDY CANE DÉCOR AT TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY DOLLARS.
LIVE REINDEER WITH THE SLEIGH WAS FIFTEEN.
IT'S FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS DONATION.
WE DID NOT KEEP THE REINDEER DESPITE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ALL YEAR.
SHE WE ALSO SHE DONATED FOR THE DAY A NINE HUNDRED DOLLAR SNOW MACHINE WHICH WAS RETURNED TO HER.
AND I BELIEVE THE SIGN I BELIEVE WAS ALSO RETURNED.
IS THAT CORRECT. OK, LYNN TURRENTINE.
LYNN AND JAMIE DONATED THE ELECTRICIAN'S EXPENSES, WHICH WAS SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS, COFFEE AND HOT CHOCOLATE AT NINETY FOUR DOLLARS.
CANDY CANES FOR CHILDREN'S BAGS AT TWENTY ONE DOLLARS AND SIXTY FIVE CENTS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONLY AM I MISSING ANYTHING BECAUSE I THINK THE OTHER WAS TAKEN IN AT THE LAST MEETING.
OK. FOR THE DONATIONS THAT ARE OVER FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS, I NEED COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ACCEPTING THEM OR NOT.
I HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE WE MAKE THAT MOTION AND MY COMMENT HAS TO DO WITH SPRINGTIME.
OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO, WE HAVE MISSED OUT ON HAVING OUR EVENTS AT THE PARK BECAUSE OF WHATEVER REASON WE HAVEN'T HAD SOME OF THEM THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. SO AS YOU LOOK AT THE COST FOR THIS EVENT THAT WE DID, TOTAL IS ABOUT SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUT A LOT OF IT WAS DONATIONS FROM.
SO IT REALLY DIDN'T COST THE CITY 7500 DOLLARS.
BUT WAS IT MONEY WELL SPENT TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER? I THINK IT WAS.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND EVERYBODY THERE SEEMED TO IT WAS WELL ATTENDED AND EVERYBODY THERE SEEMED TO BE ENJOYING IT.
AND FROM THE NUMBER OF CHRISTMAS CARDS I GOT WITH THE RED TRUCK ON THERE THAT WAS AT THE EVENT, I THOUGHT THAT WAS AWESOME.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS THAT WE HAVE THE SAME KIND OF EXCITEMENT AND ATTITUDE TOWARD THE EVENT THAT COMES UP IN SPRING.
CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME. WHAT'S THE SPRING EVENT? THEY'RE STILL DECIDING THAT, I THINK.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY FOR WHATEVER REASONS, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE SAME.
I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THE SAME EXCITEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS FUN TO SEE ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT WERE OUT THERE ENJOYING THEMSELVES, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS COLD. SOME PEOPLE HAD ON FLIP FLOPS, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO MORE OF THOSE.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE LOOK AT THE COST OF THIS, IT DIDN'T COST THE CITY THAT MUCH.
SO I DON'T WANT THAT TO LOOK AT A BURDEN FOR THE CITY.
I'D RATHER LOOK AT IT AS PEOPLE WANT TO GET INVOLVED AND HELP US.
MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION TO YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM STANDRIDGE, WOULD YOU PLEASE BE ON THE VIRTUAL MEETING WITH PARKS AND RECS TOMORROW AND ASK TO MAKE COMMENTS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA? BE HAPPY TO.
THEY KEEP CALLING IT SPRING FEST.
BUT IT JUST FOR SOME REASON, KIMBERLY DOES NOT LIKE THAT TERM.
A SPRING EVENT, WHETHER IT'S AN EASTER EGG ROLL OR WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE I WERE DEBATING
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THE LAST TIME I HEARD FROM THEM WHETHER TO TRY TO DO AN EASTER EGG ROLL RIGHT BEFORE EASTER OR MOVE IT CLOSER TO MAY IN HOPES THAT VACCINES WOULD BE IN EFFECT AND MORE PEOPLE WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING OUT AND JOINING US.I STILL HAVE CANDY FROM LAST YEARS.
AND SO I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE ITEMIZED EXPENSE.
IF THEY IF AN ITEM IS WAS PURCHASED FOR THIS SPECIFIC EVENT AND THEN RETURN TO WHOEVER PURCHASED IT, WHY IS IT SHOWING UP HERE OR SHOULDN'T IT BE PRORATED TO.
I MEAN OR WERE THESE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAD IN THEIR ATTIC OR GARAGE AND AND WE USED THEM.
AND WHY WOULD THEY BE IN THE COST.
SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE IF WE WERE GOING TO PUT THIS ON AND THEN WE COMPARE THAT TO THAT.
IT DIDN'T REALLY COST US THAT MUCH.
BUT THAT WAY WE WOULD SEE THE IMPACT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THESE DONATIONS.
AND YOU MAY BE LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE SNOWMACHINE, WHICH WE USED FOR THAT DAY, AND THEN IT WAS KIMBERLY'S OR HER BROTHERS, IS THAT RIGHT? HER SNOW MACHINE, SOMEBODYS.
I BELIEVE SHE HER BROTHER RENTS THEM, BUT GAVE HER THIS ONE TO BE USED FOR THIS EVENT AND TOLD HER SHE COULD KEEP IT FOR FUTURE CITY EVENTS IS WHAT I HEARD THAT DAY.
YEAH, IT GETS VERY CONFUSING SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF PARKS AND REC THAT HAVEN'T QUITE GOTTEN OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS DOWN PAT, BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. IT'S LIKE THE KIMBERLY DONATED THE OR SHE PROCURED THE GOLD BALLS THAT WERE OUT FRONT, BUT SHE WANTED TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THEM, SO THEREFORE, THERE OUR GOLD BALLS NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? IF.
THESE EXPENSES? YEAH, I THINK SHE'S GIVING US WHAT THE VALUE OF EVERYTHING WAS ON THE SECOND PAGE IS WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO SAY, THE TOTAL EXPENSE IF WE HAD PAID FOR EVERYTHING, BUT WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR ALL THE ITEMS UNDER DONATION.
SHE SEPARATED THOSE OUT TO THE EXPENSE SECOND.
THAT WAS KIND OF MY QUESTION WHEN I FIRST READ THIS.
SO YOU'RE WANTING A MOTION JUST TO ACCEPT THE DONATIONS ON THE TOP THAT ARE OVER 500 DOLLARS. CORRECT. YEAH, JUST THOSE THAT WE KNOW ARE DONATIONS.
NEVER MIND. FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR CHRISTMAS LIGHTS FOR.
OK, DID WE KEEP THE LIGHTS? THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS ARE OURS.
I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE LIKE A RENTAL FEE.
YEAH. I TRIED THESE ARE ACTUAL DONATIONS THAT WILL END UP BEING DONATIONS TO THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO EXPENSES THAT WILL BE REIMBURSED OR THERE WERE ONE TIME LIKE MATT BURGESS, THE ENTERTAINER.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WILL KEEP FOREVER AND EVER.
WE'RE WORKING WITH PARKS AND RECS TO GET THIS.
THE ONLY TWO ON HERE THAT I SEE AND I'M KIND OF IN LINE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER ON IS WE DIDN'T GET THE SNOW MACHINE, BUT SHE WANTS A DONATION IN THE AMOUNT OF THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE SNOW MACHINE. BUT SHE GETS TO USE IT AFTER THAT.
AND IT WASN'T A RENTAL OR AN ESTIMATE.
I THINK THAT THAT'S IN 700 DOLLARS WORTH OF CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.
SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.
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OK, SO THAT INCLUDES OK, SO THAT INCLUDES THOSE.CAN WE GIVE CREDIT FOR A DONATION FOR THE VALUE OF SOMETHING THAT WE USED ONE TIME TO GIVE HER FULL CREDIT FOR IT? I GUESS WOULD BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THE SNOW MACHINE SHE'S WANTING CREDIT FOR THE FULL VALUE OF SAID SNOW MACHINE AND THE SNOW AND THE SNOW AT NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS.
BUT SHE TOOK THE MACHINE BACK WITH HER, SO SHE ONLY DONATED THE RENTAL OF IT, I GUESS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT WOULD BE? PERHAPS WE NEED TO GET WITH PARKS AND RECS AND GET THIS BETTER DEFINED BEFORE WE ACT ON IT. OK, THEN I'D TAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS FOR UNTIL WE CAN GET THE NUMBERS ALL CORRECT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND TABLE THIS CONSIDERATION ON ACCEPTING DONATIONS FOR PARKS AND REC COMMISSIONS, HOLIDAYS 2020.
OK, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ABRAHAM TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER SIX ON ACCEPTING ANY DONATIONS FROM INTO THE CITY, FROM THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION HOLIDAYS.
I SECOND THAT. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE ANY DONATION INFORMATION INTO THE CITY FROM PARKS AND RECREATION HOLIDAYS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, NOT HEARING ANYTHING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS ITEM UNTIL WE CAN GET THIS WORKED OUT.
OK, WE'LL GET ON THAT AND GET IT WORKED OUT.
OK, NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
[7. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION ON SALES TAX. [MEYER] [12082020 – ASKED TO BE BROUGHT BACK ON NEXT AGENDA]]
DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND OR ANY APPROPRIATE ACTIONS ON SALES TAX.OK, THIS WAS BROUGHT BACK FROM DECEMBER EIGHT AND IT WAS TO BE BROUGHT BACK FOR FURTHER INFORMATION ON HOW WE WOULD EDUCATE.
IF THIS IS PUT ON THE BALLOT, HOW WOULD WE EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS? AND IF THE IF WE PROCEED ON THIS WHAT CATEGORY THE SALES TAX WOULD GO INTO OR COULD POSSIBLY GO INTO MS. MEYER? I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO QUICKLY RECAP OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION SINCE IT'S BEEN A MONTH AND SOME OF US HAVE FORGOTTEN.
SO THE CURRENT SALES TAX FOR THE CITY IS IS CURRENTLY AT ONE PERCENT, MAKING THE TOTAL SALES TAX CHARGED BY PARKER BUSINESSES AT SEVEN AND A QUARTER PERCENT.
PARKER'S ONLY ONE OF THREE CITIES IN COLLIN COUNTY.
IT'S PARKER WESTON AND NEW HOPE THAT HAVE A LOWER SALES TAX RATE THAN THE TOP ALLOWED BY THE STATE, WHICH IS EIGHT AND A QUARTER PERCENT.
IN MAY OF 2018, A PROPOSITION WAS ON THE BALLOT TO RAISE THE CITY SALES TAX FROM ONE PERCENT, THE CITY SALES TAX FROM ONE PERCENT TO TWO PERCENT, WITH THE ADDITIONAL ONE PERCENT GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
THE PROPOSITION FAILED BY 22 VOTES OUT OF SIX HUNDRED NINETY VOTES, SO IT JUST BARELY FAILED, WHICH IT'S STILL FAILED.
MOST OF OUR SALES TAX IS FUNDED BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT LIVE IN PARKER.
PURCHASES MADE OFF THE INTERNET MAY OR MAY NOT BE AFFECTED IF WE RAISE THE SALES TAX, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE COMPANY IS LOCATED, WHERE THE FULFILLMENT FACILITY IS LOCATED, AND A VARIETY OF OTHER FACTORS, CURRENTLY MANY PEOPLE ARE ORDERING MERCHANDISE BECAUSE OF COVID ONCE COVID HOPEFULLY SOON WILL DISAPPEAR AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL GO BACK TO THEIR NORMAL SHOPPING HABITS.
AND THIS IS POINTED OUT AND CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE.
PEOPLE DON'T GO SHOPPING BASED ON SALES TAX RATE.
IF YOU WANT TO BUY SOMETHING YOU WANT TO BUY AN EXTENSION CORD, YOU GO TO LOWE'S UP IN MURPHY OR HOME DEPOT IN WYLIE OR WHATEVER, BUT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. SO IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR US.
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THERE COULD BE A BIG DEAL FOR US AS A CITY FINANCIALLY.BUT IT REALLY IN CONSIDERATION OF OF THE WAY PEOPLE THINK, IT'S REALLY NOT A BIG DEAL.
BUT WE'LL ADDRESS THAT IN A MINUTE.
SALES TAX SELECTION CANNOT BE ON THE BALLOT MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR.
AND IN ADDITION, IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT, PARTICULARLY IN MAY, WELL, WE NEED TO DO IS DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEDICATED TO A FUND, WHETHER IT BE ROAD REPAIR OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GETS US TO GENERAL.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT COULD BE DRAINAGE.
IT COULD BE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT COULD BE PAYMENT OF BONDS OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS, OR IT COULD GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THE SECOND THING WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS OR WE DID CONSIDER IS HOW TO HANDLE THE EFFECT ON EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT MAY CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT, A LONG TERM CONTRACT OR A CONTRACT IN THE FUTURE, HAVING GIVEN SOMEBODY A PRICE, INCLUDING THE SEVEN AND A QUARTER PERCENT SALES TAX RATE, WHICH WOULD THEN BE EIGHT AND A QUARTER PERCENT.
AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY EXPLAINED THAT THERE IS A WAY TO WORK AROUND THAT.
SO TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT, WE WERE GOING TO PURSUE WHAT INFORMATION WE COULD GET FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.
AND GRANT, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT FROM THERE OR YOU WANT.
COULD FIND EITHER THAT WOULD GIVE AN INSIGHT TO WHERE THE SALES TAX DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM INDUSTRY SPECIFIC SO IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THAT INFORMATION WAS REQUESTED, THE ONE THAT, IT'S TOP SECRET, THAT SOMEHOW IT COULD BE SUMMARIZED TO THE EXTENT WHERE WE CAN GET A BETTER PERCENTAGE OF IN PARKER RESIDENTS VERSUS OUT OF PARKER RESIDENTS FUNDING IT, NOT NAMING ANY BUSINESSES OR EVEN THE SIC CODE.
THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE WITH THAT AND [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE MAYBE IF THERE'S ONE BUSINESS IN TOWN THAT WOULD FALL UNDER [INAUDIBLE] CODES.
AND THAT KIND OF GIVES A DEAD GIVEAWAY OF WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM.
THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC ENTITIES.
LIKE HE SAID THE REQUEST FROM THE MAYOR OR THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE REASON YOU WOULD BE REQUESTING I GUESS IS TO TRY TO ESTIMATE HOW MUCH SALES TAX WOULD BE NEW SALES TAX WOULD BE GENERATED IF WE RAISED IT.
I THINK YOU'RE ABLE TO GET THOSE NUMBERS ANYWAY BROADLY BECAUSE YOU PROVIDED IT OR GRANT HAS PROVIDED THAT BEFORE, WHAT OUR SALES TAX IS NOW AND HOW MUCH IT WOULD GO UP IF WE RAISED IT A PERCENT. THE I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO I'M NOT SURE WHAT INFORMATION YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO GET FROM THAT REPORT.
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD. I DON'T THINK THAT REPORT WOULD GENERATE WHO'S PAYING THE SALES TAX, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
IF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF PARKER ARE PAYING MORE THAN PEOPLE INSIDE OF PARKER, I DON'T THINK THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS ON THERE.
IT'S WHO IS IT'S HOW MUCH SALES TAX IS BEING GENERATED BY THE BUSINESSES IN PARKER.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT GETS GRANULAR TO THE LEVEL OF AM I BUYING IT OR ARE YOU BUYING IT? I THINK IT'S THAT THEY'RE SELLING IT.
AND THE THE PENALTY IS A THOUSAND DOLLAR FINE AND UP TO SIX MONTHS IN JAIL IF THAT
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INFORMATION IS MADE PUBLIC, ONCE YOU RECEIVE IT, BUT US GETTING IT AND USING IT TO MAKE FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS, YOU KNOW, OPEN, THAT'S NOT OPENING UP TO CRIMINAL VIOLATION.IT'S IF THE INFORMATION GETS OUT.
WE DON'T NEED FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS IT WOULD BE DOUBLING WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
GRANT, CAN YOU TELL US, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT WE HAVE NOW? OH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT $250000 OF SALES TAX [INAUDIBLE].
I THINK THEY HAVE I THINK THE INFORMATION YOU WOULD GET FROM THE COMPTROLLER WOULD BE, IS THAT $250000 COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, SALE OF PINTEREST CRAFTS OR IS IT VREO OR IS IT WHATEVER IT IS GENERATING THE SALES TAX THAT YOU'D FIND OUT WHAT INDUSTRIES ARE GENERATING YOUR SALES TAX WITH THAT REPORT.
BUT AS FAR AS FIGURING OUT HOW MUCH SALES TAX WE'RE GETTING, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT.
RIGHT. SO. SO BUT WE CAN'T YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T DISCLOSE IT ONCE THEY KNOW IT, SO THEY CAN DISCLOSE HOW MUCH SALES TAX WE'RE GETTING.
WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE GETTING, BUT HOW MUCH IS COMING FROM INTERNET SALES VERSUS IN CITY SERVICES, I GUESS.
I DON'T THINK THEY KEEP IT LIKE THAT.
HOW MUCH INFORMATION IT WOULD TAKE BEING DISCLOSED FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO DECIDE THAT'S SOMETHING THEY COULD PROSECUTE.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE TOOK A LOOK, GRANT, AND I TOOK A LOOK AT THE SALES TAXES.
AND WHILE, AS GRANT SAYS, WE CAN'T GET IT TO THAT GRANULAR DETAIL.
BUT ONE THING WE WERE ABLE TO GET IS A REPORT OF THE INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE REPORTS OR THAT HAVE A TAX REGISTER.
YEAH, THEY'RE REGISTERED TO PAY SALES TAX IN THE AREA.
YOU KNOW, IN THAT REPORT SHOWED ABOUT 115 BUSINESSES THAT PAY IN SALES TAXES.
NOW, THIS IS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
AND SO IT WAS KIND OF BEFORE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF ALL OF THE ONLINE SALES.
BUT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE A QUICK PREVIEW OR AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THOSE MAIN INDUSTRIES WERE, THE MAIN INDUSTRY, THE LARGEST NUMBER IN THERE WAS TRADE, JUST RETAIL TRADE BUSINESSES, THE NEXT WAS SERVICE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
YEAH, THEY SOUND LIKE IN-HOME KIND OF OF ENTITIES.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A LIST OF THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES, BUT I DIDN'T BRING THAT WITH ME TONIGHT. AND THEN THE NEXT IS CONSTRUCTION AND INFORMATION.
SO IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF INDUSTRIES.
BUT THE THE KEY PART THAT I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS, IS HOW MUCH IS COMING FROM EACH OF THOSE THAT PARKER? YEAH, AND YOU WOULD BY LOOKING AT THE END, THE BUSINESSES THEMSELVES, YOU CAN KIND OF SAY, WELL, THIS IS PROBABLY YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS ALL OVER.
BUT THAT'S SUCH A SUBJECTIVE ANALYSIS.
IT'S. SO THE LIST THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU JUST READ OFF OF, IS THAT SPECIFIC TO PARKER OR IS THAT COLLIN COUNTY? SO THAT IS SPECIFIC TO PARKER.
SO I HAVE A BUSINESS OR HAD, I STILL HAVE IT.
AND MY COMPANY IS ON THAT LIST FROM TWO YEARS AGO NOW.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA IF I'M CONTRIBUTING, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR CONTRIBUTING TEN DOLLARS.
OR IF YOU'RE STILL IN BUSINESS.
NO, THESE ARE CURRENT BUSINESSES SO.
WELL ANYWAY, SO IT REALLY DOESN'T GET US WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE.
SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO JUST KIND OF MAKE, TAKE THE ASSUMPTIONS WE'RE UNDER AND AND MOVE FORWARD WITH SHOULD WE PURSUE THIS.
LUKE HAD MENTIONED THAT IF WE WANT THIS TO GO ON THE MAY BALLOT, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE WORDING BY EARLY FEBRUARY, WHICH IS LESS THAN FOUR WEEKS FROM NOW.
WE HAVE A LOT OF DECISIONS IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET IT ON THE MAY BALLOT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
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AND THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE THAT I THINK WE ALL AGREED UPON WAS, WAS EDUCATING THE RESIDENTS AND HOW TO DO THAT AND IN FOUR WEEKS IT DOESN'T GIVE US A WHOLE LOT OF TIME. WE WILL HAVE ONE NEWSLETTER THAT'LL COME OUT IN THE OR COULD COME OUT IN THE BEGINNING OF APRIL.BUT WE KNOW THE READERSHIP OF THAT IS NOT 100 PERCENT, LET'S JUST PUT IT THAT WAY.
SO I THINK THAT THE TASK THAT I WAS GOING TO TAKE BETWEEN LAST MEETING AND THIS MEETING WAS TO DECIDE OR COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE EDUCATE THE RESIDENTS OF PARKER AND SO IF WE'RE.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, I'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
OK, I THINK THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS DO SOME KIND OF SURVEY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN USE SOME OF THE EMAIL, THE EMAIL ADDRESSES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OR IF THOSE ARE RESTRICTED.
I THINK SOME PEOPLE RESTRICT WHAT KIND WHAT WE CAN CONTACT THEM FOR.
BUT THE ONES THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CONTACT, WE COULD PROBABLY DEVELOP A SHORT SURVEY AND GET SOME RESPONSES.
AT LEAST WE'LL GET A SOME KIND OF BENCHMARK OF HOW PEOPLE ARE FALLING ON WHICH SIDE OF THE FENCE THEY'RE FALLING.
IF THAT PROVES TO BE SUCCESSFUL, WE GET RESPONSES BACK, THEN FOLLOW IT UP WITH SOME KIND OF MAILING, NOT A NEWSLETTER, BUT AN INFORMATIONAL PACKET THAT THAT WOULD DESCRIBE THE BENEFITS, WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE, OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE FUNDS FOR.
AND I THINK THAT THAT WILL IN ITSELF PROBABLY THE JUSTIFICATION OF WHAT WE WILL BE USING THOSE FUNDS FOR IN THE NEED FOR WILL REALLY DECIDE BE THE DRIVING FACTOR ON HOW PEOPLE DECIDE TO VOTE.
AND THEN THE LAST THING WE HAVE IS THE NEWSLETTER.
SO WE COULD CONTACT SOME PEOPLE THREE TIMES OR EVERYBODY AT LEAST TWICE.
OK, IF WE DID A SURVEY, HOW WOULD THE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THE SURVEY? WELL YOU WRITE, DO YOU EVER DO THAT LIKE, I THINK IT'S SURVEY MONKEY OR SOMETHING LIKE, OK, SO YOU DESCRIBE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO DO.
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE A PARAGRAPH AND THEN YOU ASK THEM QUESTIONS.
OK, I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THAT PARAGRAPH OR WHATEVER THE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE SURVEY WAS ABOUT IN TERMS OF SALES TAX, BECAUSE THAT SEEMED TO BE A LOT OF THEM.
THE PROBLEM THE LAST TIME WE DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB OF EDUCATION AND PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE EVEN TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THE TIMES AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE.
AND I THINK THE OTHER PROBLEM WITH LAST TIME FROM TALKING TO RESIDENTS NOW IS THAT PUTTING THE SALES TAX INTO A GENERAL FUND.
I MEAN, BASICALLY THEY'RE GOING TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAYING MORE TAX, WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, OR PARTIALLY TRUE.
AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT.
SO IF WE COULD DEFINE WHY WE NEED IT, WHAT WE WOULD BE USING FOR I MEAN, IT'S A SELLING PROPOSITION. WE HAVE TO SELL THEM ON IT.
YEAH. OK, I'M JUST CONCERNED, LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THE LOGISTICS OF THE SURVEY BECAUSE HOW ARE WE GOING TO ARE WE GOING TO SEND IT ON? I MEAN, EVEN SURVEY MONKEY, IT WOULD BE A LINK TO A WEBSITE AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO SOMEHOW COLLECT THAT DATA.
AND WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COLLECTING THAT DATA, ANALYZING IT AND THEN SAYING, OK, 75 PERCENT SAID THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT IT VERSUS 25 PERCENT THAT WOULDN'T.
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK LIKE, IS THAT GOING TO CAUSE MORE TIME AND RESOURCES FOR THE CITY AND WHICH CITY PERSONNEL WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? OR HOW WOULD WE HOW DO WE WORK THAT OUT? WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE ON OUR LIST EMAIL LIST RIGHT NOW? APPROXIMATELY?
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BUT WELL, LET'S JUST SAY IT'S 100 PEOPLE, AND IF I CAN USE MY EMAIL AND IF THERE WERE 100 PEOPLE AND HALF OF THEM RESTRICTED, SO NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 50 PEOPLE, BUT EVEN WITH 50 PEOPLE, YOU GET SOME TYPE OF FEEDBACK BECAUSE IT'S.YEAH, EVEN IF YOU GOT 50 PEOPLE TO GIVE YOU THE FEEDBACK, THERE'S PROBABLY STILL 600 RESIDENTS THAT WOULD VOTE ON IT IN MAY SO IT WOULD STILL NOT BE A REAL ACCURATE STATISTICAL PICTURE OF IT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO I'M JUST TRYING TO BRAINSTORM LIKE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO TO DO THAT.
I JUST I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IF YOU SEND IT OFF IN AN EMAIL BLAST TO EVEN AND 50 PEOPLE RESPOND, IS THAT STILL TRYING TO DO I MEAN, IS THAT STILL ACCOMPLISHING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AS FAR AS TRYING TO GET A PICTURE OF WHETHER WE HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT TO PUT IT ON A BALLOT OR NOT? NO, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST OF THREE STEPS.
THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THE SURVEY MONKEY.
THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE THE MAILING TO ALL HOUSEHOLDS IN PARKER DESCRIBING IT IN DETAIL.
AND THEN THE THIRD THING WOULD BE THE NEWSLETTER.
SO IT'D BE THREE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THREE, WELL NOT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE THREE OPPORTUNITIES, BUT SOME PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THREE OPPORTUNITIES AND THE REST OF THE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO READ ABOUT IT.
SO AND IT'S NOT STATISTICALLY VALID, YOU KNOW, HUNDRED FIFTY PEOPLE.
IF THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS JUST TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GOING TO IF WE HAVE THE SUPPORT TO GET IT ON THE BALLOT BY MAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE ON THAT PART. UNLESS YOU THE OTHER IDEAS JUST TO HAVE A TOWN HALL, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN THE TOPIC TO COME.
AND I GUESS WE COULD DO LIKE THIRTY MINUTES.
FORTY FIVE MINUTES, IF EVEN THAT IS NEEDED SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH REVENUE ARE WE BENEFITING FROM IT IF WE INCREASED IT, WHICH THAT WOULD BE A PRO.
AND HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST TO THE INDIVIDUALS AND TRY TO ALLAY THE FEARS OF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE TAXES, THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, CONCERN ON THE RESIDENTS PART.
I WASN'T TRYING TO KNOCK YOUR SUGGESTION.
WELL, WHAT WOULD PEOPLE LIKE TO DO? WE CAN, ONE, THINK ABOUT IT FOR ONE MORE WEEK, WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT TUESDAY IF PEOPLE WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT AND THINK ABOUT THE THE WAYS OF EDUCATING, OR WE CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT, YES, WE WANT TO PROCEED OR DON'T WANT TO PROCEED ON PURSUING A SALES TAX INCREASE, WHICH IF WE DO DO THAT, WE THEN KNOW WHERE TO GO FROM THERE, SO TO SPEAK.
OR LIKE I SAID, WE COULD TABLE IT FOR A WEEK TO COME BACK AND THINK SOME MORE.
SO THERE MIGHT BE OTHER OPTIONS I'M NOT THINKING OF.
GRANT. IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING CHANGING THE SALES TAX, WILL WE STILL RECEIVE REFUNDS FOR THE SALES TAX THAT GOES TO OTHER LIKE TO ALLEN OR.
WELL, IT'D HAVE TO BE ALLEN LIKE WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
CAN WE GET WILL WE STILL GET THAT MONEY BACK? TAX, SO WE GET SOME OF THAT BACK.
BUT IN ALLEN, IF YOU USE 7502-6733 THAT'S ME.
THEN WHATEVER HAPPENS RIGHT THERE IN 6733 FOR SALES TAX, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A RETURN ON THAT. MY POINT IN BRINGING THIS UP IS, IS THAT IS THAT A BETTER APPROACH THAN TRYING TO HAVE A BOND ISSUE TO INCREASE THE SALES TAX.
THERE'S COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT [INAUDIBLE] SO IF THEY FIND ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND, THAT WENT TO ANOTHER CITY THAT SHOULD HAVE CAME TO US, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THAT. THEY CAN ALSO WORK THE OTHER WAY ALSO.
SO WHERE WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING MONEY THAT SHOULD HAVE WENT TO SOMEBODY ELSE [INAUDIBLE].
BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN SERVICES THAT WE CAN USE.
I THOUGHT IN THE PAST WE HAD LISTED THE FOUR DIGIT CODES THAT ARE IN PARKER THAT WHERE THE TAX WOULD GO TO SOMEPLACE ELSE BASED ON THAT ZIP CODE.
AND WE GOT WE WERE ABLE TO GET MONEY BACK FROM THOSE FROM THOSE CITIES, ALLEN OR PLANO OR
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MURPHY. TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THE COMPTROLLER USUALLY ABOUT EVERY FOUR TO FIVE YEARS, THEY DO AN AUDIT IN CERTAIN AREAS.I KNOW ONE YEAR I'VE SEEN SOME CITIES GET THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
I THINK WE GOT A HALF MILLION.
THEY DO AUDITS, INTERNAL AUDITS ON THEIR SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE BUSINESSES ARE ARE CORRECTLY BEING HOW DID I SAY IT.
REIMBURSED. REIMBURSED, AND THOSE MONEYS ARE COMING TO THE CITY.
AND I'VE SEEN SOME CITIES WHERE THEY'VE LOST, YOU KNOW, 300, 400 THOUSAND IN ONE MONTH SALES TAX COLLECTION BECAUSE OF THE OVERPAYMENT TO ANOTHER THAT THEY WERE GETTING MONEY FROM ANOTHER CITY. SO THEY DO DO THAT INTERNALLY AT THE COMPTROLLER.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY ONE WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
OH THOSE WERE FRANCHISE FEES, NEVER MIND.
BUT YEAH, THERE IS. THERE IS COMPANIES THAT DO DO THAT, THOUGH.
SO THAT HAPPENS REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO ANYWAY.
CORRECT, SIR. SO I'M NOT TAKING AWAY FROM CINDY BY ANY MEANS.
BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS YOU TALK ABOUT OPTIONS.
IS IT BETTER TO LET THE AUDITS HAPPEN AND WE SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE GET BACK FROM THAT? OR IS IT BETTER TO PUT IT ON THE BOND, ON THE BALLOT SO THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE MORE MONEY BACK FROM BY RAISING IT A CENT SO WE GET A PENNY MORE, WHICH AMOUNTS TO SOMETHING WE THINK TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PLUS WHAT THE AUDIT WOULD SHOW. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M CONFUSED OF AN APPROACH.
I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS WITHOUT US SPENDING COUNCIL SESSION AFTER COUNCIL SESSION, TRYING TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH SALES TAX.
WELL, IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT THE SALES TAX IS GOING TO BE USED FOR FIRST.
THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL'S GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE'RE JUST GOING TO DEDICATE THE ONE CENT TO ROAD MAINTENANCE.
WE DO THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S AN EASY SELL TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE DO GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT ROADS.
YEAH. SO IT'S AN EASY SELL TO THE COMMUNITY ON DOING THE ONE CENT FOR ROADS.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO RE UP THAT I BELIEVE IT'S EVERY FOUR YEARS ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE SO YOU CAN TAKE IN NEW ROADS THAT HAVE COME ON DURING THAT TIME FRAME TO ADD THOSE TO IT.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN ADDITIONAL ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND GOING TO ROADS EVERY YEAR.
NOW YOU COULD STILL HAVE YOUR NORMAL ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT AS MUCH IN IT OR YOU COULD KEEP PUTTING THE SAME AMOUNT IN IT.
SO YOU WOULD BASICALLY THAT 250 PLUS WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN THE OTHER FUND THAT'S FROM THE GENERAL FUND. SO I KNOW TERRY'S IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SOME KIND OF NEEDS ASSESSMENT AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE GOES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
IS THERE A WAY TO QUICKLY DETERMINE THE THE NEED OR WHAT WHAT CATEGORY HAS THE MOST NEED, LET'S JUST PUT IT THAT WAY, WHETHER IT'S ROADS OR OR ANY OF THE OTHER . WHAT WE HEAR MOST ABOUT IS DRAINAGE.
DRAINAGE OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU HEAR ABOUT.
WELL, THE ISSUE IS, IS ROADS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
THOSE ARE GOING TO BE YOUR BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE REPAIRING.
THAT'S WHY YOU TYPICALLY YOU SEE A LOT OF CITIES HAVE THAT SALES TAX DEDICATION TO THE ROADWAYS. THAT'S JUST THOSE ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS LIKE WE DO.
USUALLY MOST CITIES HAVE STORMS. DRAINAGE IS TYPICALLY A CHEAPER ITEM WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THAT STRUCTURE.
IF YOU HAVE BAR DITCHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT'S LEVELING, YOU KNOW, CULVERTS SOME DRIVEWAYS, THAT'S A LOT CHEAPER THAN PUTTING NEW CONCRETE IN REDOING THE SUBBASE, TEARING OUT EVERYTHING. IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THAT WAY.
BUT THAT COULD OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, WELL, IF IT'S CHEAPER, A CHEAPER THING, WHY HASN'T THE CITY AND WHY HASN'T IT BEEN DONE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP YOU'RE GOING TO JUST OPEN ANOTHER AVENUE FOR PEOPLE TO START QUESTIONING.
THE ISSUE YOU RUN INTO WITH DRAINAGE IS THE CITY OWNS VERY LITTLE DRAINAGE.
THAT THE STRUCTURES THEMSELVES, TYPICALLY ALMOST EVERY SUBDIVISION THE HOMEOWNERS OWN ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DRAINAGE UP FRONT.
NOW, IF THE CITY STARTS MESSING WITH THOSE DRAINAGE DITCHES AND STUFF, WE TAKE THE
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LIABILITY AND THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THOSE ON.WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT IF IT'S COMING FROM SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT WE'RE KIND OF SPINNING ON HERE.
BUT YOU BROUGHT UP SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING, COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER IS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET BACK TO A NORMAL RIGHT NOW.
PEOPLE WILL BE MORE AFFECTED BY THIS BECAUSE OF THEIR AT HOME ORDERING.
AND WE'RE NOT SEEING THE OUTSIDE REVENUE RIGHT NOW.
SOUTH FORK IS NOT BOOKED NEARLY AS OFTEN AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, AND THAT'S WHERE OUR REVENUE COMES FROM. SO IF WE PUT THIS ON MAY AND APPROVE THIS, WE ARE DIRECTLY HITTING THE RESIDENTS AT THAT POINT, AT LEAST UNTIL THINGS GO BACK TO NORMAL, THE ONLINE SHOPPING GOES BACK TO NORMAL.
WE GET THE EVENTS BACK IN SOUTH FORK.
AND I THINK THAT EVEN IN LOOKING AT ROADS, I AGREE THEY'RE EXPENSIVE AND 250000 DOLLARS IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET COMPARED TO WHAT IF WE HAVE TO RE ASPHALT ALL DUBLIN ROAD OR LEWIS LANE. THOSE ARE DROPS IN THE BUCKET, BUT IT WILL DIRECTLY AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR IN PAYING THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THEY TRULY UNDERSTAND BASED ON THEIR CURRENT HABITS, THE EFFECT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING FROM WHATEVER IT MAY BE, COVID THEIR JOBS ARE LAYING OFF OR PEOPLE AREN'T AS EMPLOYED AS MUCH, I DON'T SEE THE SUPPORT THERE FOR IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT EVEN I COULD SUPPORT IT AT THAT POINT TODAY BASED ON THAT FACT.
I MEAN, IF WE WERE IN A MORE NORMAL ENVIRONMENT, I COULD UNDERSTAND IT.
BUT TODAY I FEEL LIKE IT MORE DIRECTLY WILL AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS.
SO THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT I HAD IS LIKE WHAT WILL BE THE NEGATIVE IMPACT TO OUR RESIDENTS WITH THIS ONE PERCENT INCREASE? I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE WILL ARGUE THAT YOU DON'T REALLY NOTICE IT BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF NOT PASS THROUGH CHARGE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU DON'T NOTICE IT AS MUCH.
BUT IS THERE GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT TO OUR RESIDENTS WITH THIS INCREASE? AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE EDUCATED SO I CAN EXPLAIN IT IF SOMEBODY ASKED ME THAT.
SO HOW MUCH DO YOU BUY ONLINE OR FROM A RESIDENT OF PARKER? SO IT'S BASICALLY.
IT'S BASICALLY DEPENDENT ON YOUR SHOPPING HABITS.
RIGHT. SO, I MEAN, SOME COULD ARGUE THAT WHETHER IT'S WITH PANDEMIC OR NOT PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE JUST BY, I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, THEY BOUGHT EVERYTHING ONLINE BECAUSE NOBODY IT'S JUST CONVENIENT.
SO I GUESS BUT I DO AGREE THAT THE PANDEMIC OBVIOUSLY HAD A MAJOR IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S SHOPPING HABITS, ESPECIALLY ONLINE, AND THEN THAT WOULD AFFECT IT.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A SLIGHT DECREASE.
WE'RE ON A FIRST NAME BASIS WITH OUR AMAZON DRIVER.
AND HE TELLS US HE WAS TELLING ME THAT THEY WENT FROM EIGHT HOUR SHIFTS TO 12 HOUR SHIFTS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF DELIVERIES AND HIS DISTRICT AS PARKER.
AND THEY WENT FROM HAVING THREE TRUCKS HERE TO NINE TRUCKS HERE, WORKING 12 HOUR SHIFTS TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH DELIVERIES.
THAT'S NOT FEDEX WHO HAS EXTRA GUYS OUT BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS, UPS, WHO DOES.
BUT IN GENERAL, ONLINE SHOPPING HAS STATISTICALLY OVER THE LAST QUARTER BEEN UP BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE A MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE OF COVID YOU'RE ON THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S SAFER TO ORDER ONLINE.
SO THEY WILL FILL IT MORE SO THAN, SAY, SOMEBODY WHO IS A YEAR AGO FROM NOW.
YEAH, A YEAR AGO WOULD HAVE GOTTEN US OUT OF THIS BY NOW.
SO A YEAR AGO FROM NOW, WHEN THIS HADN'T STARTED UP, I FEEL LIKE IT IS MORE OF AN IMPACT TODAY THAN IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER THIS A YEAR FROM NOW WHEN MAYBE THINGS HAVE CALMED DOWN. BUT THE IMPACT IS IF YOU LOOK AT YOU SPEND A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND NOW YOU WOULD SPEND NOW YOU WOULD BE CHARGED ONE PERCENT MORE.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT A BIG IMPACT.
I'M NOT ON A FIXED INCOME, SO IT'S NOT BUT ON SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE ON A FIXED INCOME, ONE PERCENT OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS HERE WHO ARE ON A MUCH MORE FIXED INCOME THAN SOME.
I AGREE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OVERCOME WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ADVERTISING SALES TAX, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE, ON JUST WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OVERCOME, IT'S A BIGGER EXPENSE TO THE CITIZEN.
SO I THINK THAT WE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
ONE IS WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE MONEY.
BUT THE OTHER ONE IS WHAT'S THE REAL STORY THAT'S GOING TO BE POSITIVE TO THE FIXED INCOME PEOPLE INTO THE NON-FIXED INCOME PEOPLE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT ATTITUDE ON EACH.
MY POINT IS, WHY TODAY? I MEAN, WHAT IS SO PRESSING THAT THIS HAS TO GET ON THE BALLOT VERSUS LOOKING AT IT NEXT MAY WHEN WE'VE HAD A YEAR FOR THE VACCINES AND HOPEFULLY THINGS CALM DOWN AND AND PEOPLE ARE LESS SCARED TO BE OUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHY? WHAT IS THE EXPEDITIOUS NEED TO HAVE IT TODAY VERSUS LOOKING AT IT IN THE FUTURE WHEN IT'S NOT GOING TO HIT AS MANY PEOPLE? WELL, I'M NOT PUSHING FOR THIS TO BE ON THE MAY BALLOT LET ME JUST TELL YOU THAT.
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BUT THERE IS A DELAY BECAUSE IT GOES ON THE MAY BALLOT AND THEN IT HAS TO GO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY ALL THE BUSINESSES AND ALL THAT. AND I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE NOVEMBER WHEN IT ACTUAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHEN IT ACTUALLY STARTS.SO IT'S ALMOST A YEAR FROM NOW.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT THE COVID THING WILL BE DONE WITH HOPEFULLY.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING.
THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, OH, I'M GETTING INCREASED BY ONE PERCENT, THEY DON'T SEE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TILL NOVEMBER. WELL, I MEAN, DO YOU WANT GOOD.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO POSITION IT SOMEHOW.
BUT IF IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH WHATEVER IS IMPORTANT TO RESIDENTS WHICH THE ROADS AND DRAINAGE ARE OR CHOOSE ONE OF THEM IS THAT IS THAT WORTH AN EXTRA FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON LESS. I MEAN, WE'LL COME UP WITH EXAMPLES OF SOMEBODY SPENDS A THOUSAND DOLLARS ON AMAZON. WHAT WILL IT COST THEM? WELL, IT'S NOT GOING TO WHAT'S ONE PERCENT OF THOUSAND.
SO IT'LL COST THEM TEN DOLLARS.
WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ALL THE REVENUE OFF AMAZON BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND IT GOES FROM THE DISTRIBUTION POINT.
AS LONG AS THE DISTRIBUTION IS IN TEXAS, IT GOES FROM THERE.
IT'S MORE OF A LOT OF THE ONLINE SERVICE.
GROCERY DELIVERY IS A BIG ONE BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S SOLD, IF YOU DO SHIPPED AND IT'S SOLD HERE, IT ACTUALLY COUNTS FOR YOUR HOME ADDRESS BECAUSE SHIPPED IS LOCATED IN CALIFORNIA. I DID SOME RESEARCH AFTER OUR LAST TALK TO FIGURE IT OUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUSINESSES IN PARKER BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S NOT GOING TO DIRECTLY AFFECT OUR RESIDENT.
SUSIE SHOEMAKER IS A TOTALLY MADE UP NAME WHO MAKES SHOES SELLS TO A DALLAS RESIDENT WHO PAYS PARKER SALES TAX.
BUT IT DIDN'T HURT SUSIE AT ALL.
IT'S A DALLAS RESIDENT JUST PAID THE SAME SALES TAX THEY WOULD PAY IN DALLAS.
I AM SOLELY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS WHO ORDER ONLINE, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PANDEMIC, OR MAYBE THEY'RE NOT.
THEY'VE JUST ALWAYS ORDERED ONLINE.
SUDDENLY WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE BY ONE PERCENT.
IT IS A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A ONE CENT ACROSS, HOWEVER MUCH THEY SPEND IN A YEAR, THAT COULD BE A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS, SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS TO SOMEBODY ON A FIXED INCOME DURING ALL OF THIS.
I DON'T SEE WHY IT'S SUCH A PUSH FOR THIS MAY VERSUS NEXT MAY WHEN OUR RESIDENTS HAVE MORE TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WELL WE'VE GOT TO GET A SURVEY AND WE'VE GOT FOUR NEWSLETTERS BEFORE THEN.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT PUSHING FOR MAY.
I GET THAT NOW. BUT I'M JUST SAYING IN GENERAL, I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO PUSH THIS AND CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW, WHEN WE CAN DISCUSS THIS IN THE FUTURE, THINGS ARE ALREADY CONVOLUTED ENOUGH WHEN IT COMES TO COVID THE COSTS AND THE EXPENSES FOR PEOPLE.
OK, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS WE NEED TO DO A LOT MORE RESEARCH AND PREPARATION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. ABSOLUTELY.
YES AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY ON BOARD WITH THE CITY DOING BECOMING A POLLSTER EITHER AND SENDING OUT A SURVEY TO POLL.
ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE YES OR NO ON THIS BECAUSE THEN WE BECOME A POLLING SERVICE.
BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED MORE INFORMATION FROM THE RESIDENTS OF WHAT'S BOTHERING THEM SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE TO LOOK AT THIS FOR AND TO FIND OUT WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO SEE A BENEFIT WORTH. YOU KNOW, MY DADDY USED TO SAY, IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE? AND I USE THAT A LOT BECAUSE IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE ON THIS? AND I DON'T KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON CURRENTLY THAT IT IS, I THINK THAT A LOT MORE NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO THIS BEFORE WE LOOK AT IT.
THAT'S FINE. AND WE CAN PUT IT ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT, TOO.
AND WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NOVEMBER IS A SLOW, IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS AND NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE VOTE ON THOSE.
BUT IN THE SURVEY, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE A POLLSTER.
IT WOULD BE DO YOU SEE A BENEFIT? AND YOU CAN IT'S THE WAY YOU POSITION IT.
AND SO IT'S A GOOD THING TO GET, I THINK, TO GET CITIZEN FEEDBACK BEFORE WE GO MUCH FURTHER. SO THAT'S THE IDEA OF THE OF THE POLL.
ABSOLUTELY. ALWAYS FORGET THIS THING.
I TALK LOUD AS IT IS, BUT I WAS CLARIFYING THAT THE SURVEY, WHEN IT IS DONE, HAS TO BE VERY MUCH FACTFINDING ON WHAT BOTHERS YOU CURRENTLY ON THESE ITEMS AND GET TO THE DATA WITHOUT DIRECTLY ASKING NECESSARILY THE OPINION ON THE SALES TAX.
I DON'T THINK A MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS, BASED ON OUR LAST ELECTION AND WATCHING KIND OF THE COMMONALITIES OF WHAT PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED WITH IN OUR EVENT THAT WE HAD HERE WHAT WAS THAT LAST TUESDAY.
I THINK THAT ELLING THEM ON IT'S GOING TO COST YOU MORE MONEY, EVEN IF IT'S TEN DOLLARS IN A YEAR, I THINK IN THE CURRENT CLIMATE IS NOT THE PROPER SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT MUCH FURTHER IN THE FUTURE, EVEN A YEAR FROM NOW. IF WE GET TO THE END OF THIS AND WE'RE IN THE SUMMER, WE'RE DOING BUDGET AND
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THINGS HAVE CALMED DOWN AND WE WANT TO LOOK AT PUTTING IT ON NOVEMBER, I THINK I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE TIME TO GET THE DATA THAT WE WANT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RUSH IT. WELL, I AGREE WITH THAT.I AGREE IT WOULD BE RUSHED AND I AGREE THAT THAT IT'S BAD TIMING PROBABLY RIGHT NOW.
SO BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED TO PUSH IT OFF FOR FOUR MONTHS BECAUSE WE'LL BE IN THE SAME SITUATION, YOU KNOW, FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW.
SO IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN STILL WORK ON THE NEEDS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO QUANTIFY WHAT IT WOULD BRING TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEN LET THE RESIDENTS DECIDE IS, IS IT MORE IMPORTANT TO PAY THAT EXTRA 10 DOLLARS OR IS OR DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE DODGING POTHOLES? I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, COULD COME DOWN TO THAT.
BUT WE NEED TO DEVELOP THAT PORTION OF IT.
NO. THERE'S THE THAT'S WHAT WE USE TO SLOW THEM DOWN ON DUBLIN ROAD NOW, BECAUSE IF YOU GO ANY MORE THAN ABOUT 10 MILES AN HOUR, YOU'RE GOING TO END UP BLOWING A TIRE.
OK, FOLKS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL, AND I AGREE THAT THIS ISN'T OR I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE TIME TO BE PUSHING ANOTHER TAX, NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT DIRECTLY IMPACTS US INDIVIDUALLY. SO I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE PUSH THIS OFF TO ANOTHER TO A LATER DATE.
BUT AS CINDY SAYS, DON'T WAIT TILL NOVEMBER OR TILL A MONTH BEFORE WE WANT TO PUT IT ON A THING. OK, I'M GOING TO ASK THIS.
DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CHAIR, OK? JUST SAYING THAT UP FRONT.
ARE YOU WILLING TO CHAIR A COMMITTEE OR.
I KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE LOOK ON WHERE YOU CAN DO A MONTHLY UPDATE AND HAVE WHOEVER YOU WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS.
SO IT DOES STAY ON THE AGENDA WHERE YOU CAN DO AN UPDATE LIKE YOU DO ON YOUR DRAINAGE, WHERE IT DOES MOVE FORWARD, AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE READY OR FEEL LIKE THE TIME IS READY FOR IT TO COME BACK FORMALLY TO DO IT THEN.
AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE? WELL, IT WOULD BE TO DO THE LOOK AT ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS, TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION WE CAN GET ABOUT WHAT IS OUR CURRENT SALES TAX, WHERE IS IT COMING FROM, WHAT DO WE ANTICIPATE NEW SALES TAX TO BE TO BE FROM? WHERE SHOULD IT GO? WHAT IS THE MAIN CITIZENS CONCERN? WHAT ELSE, MICHAEL? TERRY? OK, I'LL DO THAT.
CAN I GET A MOTION THAT CINDY HEADS UP A COMMITTEE.
WHOSE THE COMMITTEE GOING TO BE MADE UP OF? YOU'RE NOT VOLUNTEERING, HOLDING US ARE YOU? I WOULD EXPECT EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE IF CINDY NEEDS INPUT.
YES. BUT IS IT GOING TO BE MADE UP OF CITIZENS OR COUNCIL MEMBERS? TO ME THAT WOULD BE UP TO CINDY.
TO WORK IT. BUT IF SHE NEEDS PEOPLE TO HELP HER, THEN I THINK SHE NEEDS TO HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO WORK WITH HER WHERE IT'S NOT JUST CINDY GETTING DUMPED ON AGAIN.
DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR HER TO FORM A COMMITTEE SINCE SHE'S KIND OF TAKING OVER SALES TAX.
SHOULD WE MAKE A MOTION ON OK. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE SUCH A MOTION? SOUNDS LIKE A MOTION TO ME.
OK, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE ANY DECISIONS ON THE SALES TAX ITEM, AND WE PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA IN MARCH. I'LL SECOND IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MEYER, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER SLAUGHTER TO POSTPONE ANY DECISION ON SALES TAX, WHICH WILL BE PLACED ON THE FUTURE AGENDA.
SO WHEN THERE'S MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE, WE WILL PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
IS THAT CORRECT? OK. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF SAID MOTION.
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ANY OPPOSED.NOT HEARING ANY MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.
CINDY, I WILL CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU.
AND I IMAGINE EVERYBODY IN COUNCIL WILL BE.
YOU'RE CERTAINLY CAN HAVE GRANT TO HELP YOU HAVE THE HELP.
YEAH, IT'S JUST I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAN WE DO AT THIS TIME.
OK, NEXT, WE HAVE A FUTURE AGENDA.
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WELL, LET'S GO. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING TO PLACE ON THE FUTURE AGENDA OTHER THAN WHAT WE JUST PLACED ON THE FUTURE AGENDA ON SALES TAX, PLEASE LET ME KNOW OR SEND ME AN EMAIL SO I CAN GET IT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. NEXT, WE WILL GO TO UPDATES.FIRST ONE IS REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION.
TRANSPORTATION GROUP COMMITTEE BOARD.
IT'S KIND OF QUIET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
THE BIG THING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND I THINK IF YOU DRIVE ON IT, YOU SEE THAT IT'S KIND OF NICE TO DRIVE ON IS PARKER ROAD.
AND GARY, HAVE YOU HAD YOUR MEETING WITH ANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT [INAUDIBLE] SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS? WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF MINOR ISSUES TO FINISH UP ON PARKER ROAD, BUT IT'S DONE AT THIS POINT.
SINCE GARY'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT DUBLIN ROAD NOW MAYBE YOU WANT TO JUMP DOWN AND DO THAT ONE NEXT SINCE YOU'RE ALREADY TALKING. OK.
DUBLIN ROAD IS BEHIND SCHEDULE, EVERYBODY KIND OF KNOWS THAT.
WE HAD SOME PROBLEMS. WE'VE GOT THOSE PROBLEMS RESOLVED.
MET WITH THE CONTRACTOR TODAY. WE'RE OUT THERE LOOKING AT SOME THINGS AND THEY ARE ON SCHEDULE TO BE BACK ON DUBLIN ROAD MONDAY, TUESDAY, NEXT WEEK TO BEGIN [INAUDIBLE] THAT FAILED RIGHT A WAY.
AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW THOSE REPAIRS WORK AND WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD FROM THERE WITH THE REST OF PROJECT.
IT IS BEHIND SCHEDULE BUT THE FINISH IS GOING TO GO QUICK ONCE WE GET BACK ON.
OK, OK, NEXT WE HAVE, THANK YOU, GARY.
NEXT, WE HAVE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.
HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WITH RODNEY RHODES, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OVER AT NORTH TEXAS, WITH THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE MEMBER CITIES.
THEY ARE LOOKING TO TRY TO HAVE NEW CONTRACTS FOR ALL THE CUSTOMER CITIES TO BE SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE MEMBER CITIES.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS START LOOKING AT THE WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING A COPY HERE SOON OF A CONTRACT.
AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO WE'RE ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE OUR SECOND DELIVERY POINT WITHIN THAT.
SO THINGS ARE GOING PRETTY QUICK AND MOVING FORWARD.
GARY, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PUMP STATION? THE PUMP STATION IS GOING GREAT.
WE'RE ACTUALLY ON SCHEDULE OFF MIC] COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MR. SLAUGHTER. WELL, I THINK YOU COVERED A LOT OF IT.
WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW, JANUARY 13TH.
THAT'LL BE THE FIRST ONE SINCE I'VE TAKEN OFFICE.
SO WE'LL KIND OF REORGANIZE, COME BACK TOGETHER AS A COMMITTEE.
SO PLEASE AND I INVITE ANYBODY FROM COUNCIL WHO WANTS TO COME, PLEASE.
THIS IS DEFINITELY A BEAST OF A PROJECT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO INPUT FROM EVERYBODY IS HIGHLY ENCOURAGED.
OK. OK, COUNCIL MEMBER ABRAHAM EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS.
OK, SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN NEAR TO MY HEART.
SHORTLY AFTER I WAS ELECTED LAST IN MAY 2019, I WANTED TO WORK WITH CHIEF SHEFF, CHIEF BROOKS OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO TRY TO WORK ON DEVELOPING A COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.
AND SO WE MET NUMEROUS TIMES THROUGH THE PAST THE PAST YEAR SPECIFICALLY.
AND WE BASICALLY IN JUNE 2020, WE AFTER LOOKING AT VARIOUS OPTIONS AND LOOKING AT CITIES
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AROUND US, WE CAME UP WITH THE WE WE LOOKED AT THE EVERBRIDGE SYSTEM AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEETINGS IN THE PAST.AND BASICALLY WE'VE DECIDED THAT THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM.
IT'S MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN THE NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT WE HAD BEFORE.
I THINK IT WAS CODE RED OR SOMETHING.
YEAH. SO THIS PARTICULAR SYSTEM IS MORE STATE OF THE ART IN TERMS OF IT'S PURELY WEB BASED. AND MR. OLSON CAN GIVE US A LITTLE PRESENTATION AFTER HERE, I MEAN, HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT BASICALLY, AS FAR AS OUR CITY IS GROWING, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A MORE SYSTEM, A SYSTEM THAT'S MORE ROBUST IN TERMS OF PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, BETTER NOTIFICATIONS ON TERMS OF ALERTS FOR WEATHER.
ALSO NON-EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTS THAT ARE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AFFECTING SOME OF OUR ROADWAYS, WATER OUTAGES, WATER BOIL, ET CETERA.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THE EVERBRIDGE SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE FUNDED, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST YEAR THROUGH THE CARES ACT.
AND THIS ONE YEAR PERIOD GIVES US A BASICALLY A TIME FRAME TO TEST IT OUT AND SEE IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING IT.
IT'S WE CAN ALSO CHECK OUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROGRAM BEFORE WE COMMIT TO IT FOR FUTURE YEARS. AND ALSO, RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO BASICALLY TAILOR WHAT KIND OF NOTIFICATIONS THEY WANT TO GET THROUGH TEXT, PHONE CALLS, ET CETERA, OR EMAILS EVEN.
AND YOU CAN OPT IN AND OUT OF THE FEATURES THAT YOU WANT TO RECEIVE ALERTS ON.
HOWEVER, THE ONE THING THAT WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU BASICALLY TURN ON YOUR WEATHER NOTIFICATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIG THAT'S THE BIG POINT OF HAVING THIS THE SYSTEM PARTICULARLY.
SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHEN THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ISSUES AN ALERT THROUGH THE SYSTEM, YOU WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY ALERTED TO YOUR PREFERRED METHOD, WHETHER IT'S PHONE, TEXT, EMAIL, AND YOU CAN PREPARE ACCORDINGLY.
SO THAT PRETTY MUCH TAKES OUT THE NEED FOR HAVING RIGHT NOW A OUTDOOR NOTIFICATION SYSTEM FOR THE WEATHER EMERGENCIES.
AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO LUKE.
YOU CAN GIVE A LITTLE DEMONSTRATION OF HOW THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS.
I'M PRETTY SURE [INAUDIBLE] LITTLE NERVOUS BECAUSE I'M PLAYING ON THE RESIDENT SIDE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVEN'T WENT LIVE WITH IT.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ADMIN SIDE OF THIS SYSTEM.
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 1273 REGISTERED MEMBERS WITHIN OUR SYSTEM.
THAT WAS FOR THE DATA THAT WE PAID FOR TO GET WITH OUR CONTRACT, WHAT YOU CAN DO HERE IS THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS, YOU CAN GO TO UNIVERSE, SORRY, IT'S RUNNING A LITTLE SLOW. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY MY LAPTOP'S RUNNING SLOW TONIGHT.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE THESE GREEN DOTS, ALL THESE DOTS HERE.
I'M SORRY, MICHAEL. I WAS TRYING TO GET THAT TV UP AND GOING.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE GREEN DOTS.
THESE ARE ALL THE CONTACTS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF PARKER.
THAT IF EMERGENCY DOES HAPPEN AND THEY'VE OPTED IN THAT THESE WOULD GET NOTIFICATIONS FOR THAT. SO WE DO HAVE QUITE A ROBUST SYSTEM OF RESIDENTS IN HERE ALREADY.
WE JUST NEED WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY I THINK CHIEF WAS TALKING ABOUT MAYBE FEBRUARY, IN FEBRUARY TRYING TO GET THIS UP OUT AND GOING TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE MARCH COMES AROUND FOR SEVERE WEATHER SEASON. AND YOU WILL GET I THINK WE'RE TURNING ON THE WARNINGS AND WATCHES FOR SEVERE WEATHER AND TORNADO, THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT.
I DON'T LIKE [INAUDIBLE] I'M AFRAID I'M GOING TO SEND SOMETHING OUT TO EVERYONE.
[LAUGHTER] I'M GOING TO GO TO THE TEST SIDE HERE.
CAN WE DO THE SURVEY? WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE, YOU CAN DO SURVEYS ON HERE.
YOU CAN DO SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS.
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THE NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.WITHIN THIS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MANY WERE DELIVERED, [INAUDIBLE], UNREACHABLE OR NOT CONFIRMED. WE USED LEE AS A, THE MAYOR AS A TEST EXAMPLE, IF WE GET WITH THIS ONE WAS I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A TSUNAMI OR NOT.
SHE WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS A CORRECT ONE OR NOT.
BUT SHE DID CALL ME FIRST BEFORE SHE RESPONDED YES.
BUT NO, WE WE'VE BEEN DOING INTERNAL TESTING ON IT TO MAKE IT WORK.
THERE'S ALSO AN EMPLOYEE SIDE THAT HAS DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT FIRE WILL HAVE, POLICE WILL HAVE AND WE'VE GOT A CITYWIDE ONE SO WE CAN SEND NOTIFICATIONS, TO ALL EMPLOYEES THAT SAME WAY. SO I'M STILL GOING THROUGH THE TRAINING.
THERE'S ALSO A APP THAT MYSELF, CHIEF, BOTH CHIEFS AND I THINK AND ASSISTANT CHIEFS AND CAPTAINS AND SERGEANTS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
IF THERE WERE AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING ON [INAUDIBLE] AT RUSH HOUR, THEY CAN POST THAT ON THERE. IF PEOPLE OPT IN TO THAT, THEY WOULD GET THAT NOTIFICATION.
GOOD. SO THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME THINGS ON THERE.
WE'RE STILL LEARNING, I THINK, EVERY MEETING WE'VE HAD WITH THEM WE LEARN SOME NEW FEATURE. SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE MEETINGS WITH THEM ON THIS.
CAN. IS THIS AVAILABLE IN MORE THAN JUST ENGLISH FOR OUR NON ENGLISH SPEAKING RESIDENTS? YES. THOSE ARE ADVANCED FEATURES.
YEAH. WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THE ADVANCED FEATURES YET.
WE'RE STILL ON THE MIDDLE LEVEL FEATURES RIGHT NOW.
FOR COMMUNICATIONS IN AN EMERGENCY IS IT HAS A FUNCTION CALLED IN THE EVENT OF A MAJOR WEATHER EVENT, WE CAN PUT THE PHONE CALL TO MAKE AN EMERGENCY DECISION.
OR MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME TOGETHER.
WE CAN BRING YOU ALL TOGETHER, IDENTIFY THE EMERGENCY AND WHAT AND IT CAN BE DONE SEAMLESSLY AND VERY QUICKLY.
SO I'M VERY ENCOURAGED BY THAT FUNCTION.
YEAH, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT SETTINGS, TOOLS AND EVERYTHING WE CAN DO HAVE PRESET TEMPLATES THAT WE CAN USE FOR PEOPLE WORKING WITH THEM ON RIGHT NOW.
OK, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE TO GET THOSE SQUARED AWAY.
I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S DEFINITELY A ONE STOP SHOP AS FAR AS LIKE IT DOESN'T COST THE CITY ANYTHING IN TERMS OF BUDGET WISE, AS FAR IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CARES ACT FUNDING TO PAY FOR IT, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
AND I THINK IT'S A IT'S AN AWESOME PROGRAM.
I KNOW I DON'T KNOW THE OTHER CITIES NEAR US THAT USE IT, BUT I THOUGHT, LIKE, MAYBE.
DENTON COUNTY USES IT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.
AND I THINK THERE'S SOME SMALLER CITIES AROUND THE DALLAS SOUTH OF DALLAS THAT USE IT TOO. WELL, IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF EMERGENCY THAT AFFECTED SAY PARKER, MURPHY AND LUCAS, IS THERE A WAY TO BRING THIS ALL IN TOGETHER TO DEAL WITH THAT.
SO THAT WE HAVE A COORDINATED RESPONSE [INAUDIBLE].
THEY COULD COME ON OUR SYSTEM MAYBE AND REGISTER.
SO WE HAD A HORRIBLE WRECK AT BETSY AND [INAUDIBLE] ROAD, WHICH WOULD BE.
WELL, WE WOULD NOTIFY OUR RESIDENTS.
YEAH, THEIR END. WOULD THERE BE A COORDINATED.
I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE NOT THROUGH THE PROGRAM BUT.
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YEAH. I'M THINKING LIKE LEWIS LANE WHERE YOU HAVE PARKER, COLLIN COUNTY AND LUCAS.IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO GET THOSE LINES IN THERE.
AND SO ANYTHING WEST OF LEWIS LANE [INAUDIBLE].
WE HAD ISSUES WITH THE MAPPING AND THE HOLES IN IT.
MIC] YOU CAN GO IN WITHIN THE MAPPING SYSTEM HERE, THAT'LL BRING, I BROUGHT THE WRONG ONE UP.
AND YOU CAN YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO IN WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE GRANULAR LEVEL AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO DRAW POLYGONS OR WHATEVER THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SHOW ON HERE.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE SECTION OF TOWN THAT WE HAD TO TURN A VALVE OFF, WE COULD NOTIFY THAT SECTION WITHIN THAT AREA BY JUST DRAWING THE BOX AND SENDING IT OUT.
AND YOU CAN DO ALL THAT FROM YOUR PHONE.
I CAN DO IT FROM MY PHONE. I CAN DO IT FROM MY LAPTOP.
I CAN. AND WE ALL HAVE WE CONNECT WHILE ON A LAPTOP AND DO IT RIGHT THERE.
AND YOU CAN LOG IN ON, YOU CAN LOG ON THE WEBSITE ON ANY COMPUTER BASICALLY.
SO I'M IN TENNESSEE, I CAN LOG IN AND ISSUE SOMETHING SO IT WORKS OUT.
WHAT WERE YOU DOING IN TENNESSEE? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE WHISKEY TASTING? I DON'T KNOW.
YOU CAN DO YOU BASICALLY CAN DO IT FROM ANYWHERE.
AND THE NICE THING LIKE I KNOW WHEN WAS IT LAST YEAR.
UP IN THE MOUNTAINS IN COLORADO.
LAST YEAR WHEN I WAS OUT OF TOWN AT A CONFERENCE, WE HAD SOME BAD STORMS MOVE THROUGH.
I WAS STILL GETTING DENTON COUNTY'S EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION.
SO I KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE.
AND THAT'S WHEN I FIRST FOUND OUT ABOUT SO, YEAH, THAT IS A NICE FEATURE TO IF YOU'RE OUT OF TOWN OK, SORRY ABOUT THAT. OK, THAT'S IT.
OK. WE NOW HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER LYNCH.
I BELIEVE YOU'RE UP ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
JUST KIND OF A DEFINITIONAL IS YEAH, IT'S A PLAN THAT DOCUMENTS AND REPORTS THE CITY'S CAPITAL INVESTMENT IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND THE FUNDING SOURCES NEEDED IN THE SHORT TERM, PROVIDING IT PROVIDES DETAILS TO THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY OF HOW THE CITY PLANS TO MAINTAIN ITS INFRASTRUCTURE, ITS CAPITAL ASSETS, WHICH TO ME IS VERY IMPORTANT.
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AND I LOOK FORWARD.I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
I'VE HAD SOME WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY MEETINGS WITH THE MAYOR AND OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR.
LUKE, JUST AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS GATHERING DATA, DISCUSSING HOW THINGS WORK AND IDENTIFYING OPEN QUESTIONS THAT NEED FURTHER WE'LL NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION.
IT'S BEEN A LOT EDUCATIONAL ON MY PART, JUST FIGURING OUT WHAT'S WHAT.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THE DATA THAT WE'VE GATHERED, WE'VE GATHERED THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR 2016 TO 2026 WATER IMPACT FEE.
THAT'S THE ONLY CAPITAL OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN DISCOVERED IN THE CITY OF PARKER.
AND THEN WE HAVE CITY STANDARDS.
WHAT'S IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY FOR OUR STREET, DRAINAGE, SEWER, WATER AND PUBLIC UTILITIES? NOW WE, I LEARNED THAT WHAT'S IN THE CODE IS ACTUALLY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT, NOT THE STANDARDS FOR REPLACING ROADS, DRAINAGE OR WATER.
SO HENCE ONE OF THOSE OPEN QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE ADDRESSING AS TIME, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WE ALSO HAVE A STREET INVENTORY LISTING ALL OF THE STREETS IN THE CONFINES OF PARKER THAT ARE CITY OWNED, PRIVATE OR TXDOT OR COUNTY OWNED.
SO THAT'S THE KIND OF YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE KIND OF JUST GATHERED THUS FAR LIKE I SAY, VERY MUCH EDUCATIONAL AT THIS POINT.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO THE NEXT STEPS WHERE WE ARE NOW IS HASHING OUT MORE ABOUT WHAT THE PLAN ENCOMPASSES.
AND AFTER WE GET THROUGH THAT, WE'LL GIVE AN UPDATED REPORT.
IT'S ALSO PLANNED THAT A PRELIMINARY REPORT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR MAYBE THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND RESIDENTS TO WHERE QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED AND AND DISCUSSED.
AND THAT INPUT FROM THAT WILL THEN BE USED BY THE COMMITTEE TO TO PREPARE THE ULTIMATE PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES ENGINEERING.
YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEERS WILL GET MORE INVOLVED WITH DETAILED THINGS WE DO.
I DO ANTICIPATE MR. MACHADO AND MR. SAVAGE BEING VERY MUCH INVOLVED AS WELL AS PART OF THIS COMMITTEE, BECAUSE THEY'RE CRITICAL TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE FINANCING ASPECT OF IT.
AS WELL IF THERE'S ANY RESIDENT THAT'S INTERESTED IN BEING ON THIS COMMITTEE, IT'S NOT A COMMITTEE SUCH AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE.
BUT AND WE'RE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO BE SURE WE SHARE THE INFORMATION.
BUT IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT HAS A TRUE PASSION TO WORK ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, PLEASE LET ME OR LEE PETTLE KNOW.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD TO HAVE CITIZENS INVOLVED IN ANY WAY WE CAN IN THE CITY.
OK, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, WE WILL RECESS TO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY
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CONTAINED IN A.GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 PERSONNEL TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE. B GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0711 CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY CONCERNING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION.
C GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0712 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY PN A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF THE PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE ARE RECESSING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
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AT THIS TIME, I AM RECONVENING THE PARKER CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY 12TH, 2021, UPON RETURN FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION IT IS 9:51. YEAH, 951.IS THERE ANY BUSINESS FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 9:52 P.M.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.